psyker-class

[warm latch]

huh

[bright mica]

enjoy this heretical knowledge

[tidal adder]

The fuck

[bright mica]

light - swap to brainburst - swap back to sword - repeat

[runic gate]

Do I own the best axe rn?

[bright mica]

animation cancel

[tidal adder]

Do i hve to constantly click 1-g

[tiny wharf]

What have you done here friend

[fair axle]

My want to play diminishes day by day.. In the end I'll just go back to playing Rimworld.. Them indies know what they're doing.

[tidal adder]

And they said BB doesnt scale well

[bright mica]

spreading my findings, i've also found useful cancels on zealot and ogryn lol

veteran is boring so i dont care

[tiny wharf]

Whats the animation cancel here

[tidal adder]

Dwarf fortresss just released

[bright mica]

by switching to BB and switching back to sword you can reset your combo letting you spam light 1 on Force Sword for actually really good horde-clear

[tidal adder]

I mean fat shark does too, theyre trying to milk the game just enough so people actually come back in like a month to buy new classes.

Id argue psykers is better it looks like youre floating too

[vital bough]

So what's enemy hit mass? I've only ever seen it on this Brutal Momentum Blessing

[fair axle]

What is this heresy of having to PAY for Dwarf Fortress now? Nope, I will stick with my nonsensical graphic version

[ivory marsh]

This looks like something you are using a macro to do

[tidal adder]

Oh youve picked the wrong game id youre worried about paying im afraid

[fair axle]

I mean, Dwarf Fortress has been free for years, so I'll just stick to that one, don't need fancy 2D graphics to play and have fun 🙂

[tidal adder]

Youre using text? I just close my eyes and imagine something fun

Endless empty void with loud silence

[fair axle]

http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/
I mean.. No, but then also yes, 'cos it's ASCII

[boreal wave]

Not a very effective PSA. I don't really see what I'm supposed to be seeing.

[fair axle]

But eh, I've been playing Rimworld for years instead now, especially since they gave us access to BABIES, now I get to send out child raiders and that's all fun and games when a kiddo chases you down with a chain shotgun

[bright mica]

PSA that that exists

do you even know what PSA means 😭

[ivory marsh]

the new playstation

[candid hawk]

hes swapping to grenade for the animation cancel

[boreal wave]

I do. But a PSA tends to explain something rather than just show something completely removed from context like we're supposed to know what is being shown.

[bright mica]

pampered up baby

read the rest of what i've said below

if you want something so concise just pay me

[boreal wave]

"Pampered up baby?" Really?

[ivory marsh]

It is interesting, but I feel you need a macro lest you want early arthritis

[bright mica]

yea its not rlly viable unless you have good bindings

macros were against TOS in VT2 so probably same here

[fresh reef]

gee thanks emprah

[ivory marsh]

It is a good discovery nonetheless. good work

[south monolith]

Enemies have a physical mass that is also influenced by armor type. Yours weapons have a certain amount of cleave for how much mass an attack can pass through.

[vital bough]

nobody can grab it...

lol

[livid dirge]

Worth it?

[vital bough]

I'd say

Infested + Flak is good
And the warp Flurry

Terrifying barrage is meh but you can reroll it

only downside is low warp resist

[livid dirge]

its got really low warp resist

thats my current

[teal cargo]

Does anything determine positioning at the end screen?

like who got most kills or something 😆

[fresh reef]

muh green circles

[ornate hamlet]

only bad players have an issue with end screens 🤷‍♂️

[bright mica]

do you guys know abt r cancel or is that only within my in-group

[bright mica]

low warp resist can be good for quell toughness

Shots into skybox are normal shots for comparison

[teal cargo]

Yea i mean is it based on anything or just random?

[bleak sonnet]

based on how bad u r

[teal cargo]

also wtf is this mission?

[bleak sonnet]

do scrips

[gritty perch]

annoying

[bleak sonnet]

on magistrato

[gritty perch]

that's what that is

seriously you know how often I've actually completed that? never.

because getting Magistrati Oubliette to spawn WITH the secondary objective active is actually RARE

[ornate hamlet]

its not based on anything in darktide. when people talk about endscreens, they're referring to vermintide, which showed stat breakdowns for everyone, specials killed, elites killed, enemies killed etc

[teal cargo]

ah

yea in VT2 gotta chase the green circles

[gritty perch]

so I sit there for three hours trying to get it to spawn, then when I do, nobody goes for the secondary objective

[teal cargo]

and be super toxic bout it

yea, its not even available for me to do

[ornate hamlet]

not really, i never saw much shit talking going around. but it's helpful to see if youre playing wrong

[potent echo]

I thought it was bad but it's actually quite good on damnation

[teal cargo]

Yep i just want to see how much I did

[gritty perch]

exaclty. and once it is, you have to COMPLETE the secondary objective. getting 2/3 scriptures doesn't count.

[teal cargo]

What if its Grims?

[gritty perch]

I always reroll it

gl

[teal cargo]

and nobody wanna do that 👀

[gritty perch]

if its grims gl xD

[potent echo]

It's quite hard to stagger in damnation so the suppression helps hold some enemies in place

[teal cargo]

oof

yea time for reroll

damn, coulda completed this 😢

[cloud maple]

An almost-30 psyker here... Is there a staff I should look into or can I stick to the Equinox Voidstrike? Seems to perform the best for me... great range, can anti-snipe, aoe, goes through enemies and allies... Seems like the best all-rounder

[teal cargo]

its a good all rounder i think

[bleak sonnet]

cant wait for leaderboards

[teal cargo]

I like Surge and Purg better

[bleak sonnet]

so all the surgebots can be in for a rude awakening

ata how they do nothing

[teal cargo]

Well theres no enemy CCd stat

[potent echo]

Surge and purge dual combo is the best for every situation

[teal cargo]

but def I've seen Surgers do a lot stunning elites forever

or saving people from bursters

[potent echo]

Round that up with a bolter and a lasgun and it's easy damnation clears

[cloud maple]

I do like the lightning, I just feel like I contribute more with the void ball.

[teal cargo]

yep

[fallow meadow]

BB the sniper, the best option.

[teal cargo]

I sometimes get people thanking me for stunning away Bursters or Mutants

[cloud maple]

Don't think I ever used the lightning long enough to see if I stunned elites... Didn't know you could.

[teal cargo]

Do need some melee weapons for hordes though cos it really does nothing there

yep you can stun maulers and crushrs

as well as Bulwark open

[fallow meadow]

Stunning Bursters and Mutants is very valuable

[potent echo]

Also hounds

[teal cargo]

yep

[cloud maple]

Can stun hounds with the voidstrike

[teal cargo]

and purge

[cloud maple]

Well, stagger

[red basin]

do staff attacks count as warp attacks for the toughness perk

[potent echo]

Yes

[teal cargo]

but Surge shoves bursters like a good 15 m away

looks hella glitchy

but useful

[potent echo]

Just need someone to kill them

[teal cargo]

yea

btu you ping

and vet ignores

so you just lettem blow up

or you knock away and kill wsith lmb

[potent echo]

Busy sending las into the bulwarks shield

[teal cargo]

I had a vet ignore a nsiper

and then run up to powersword a Daemonhost

and then die cos yea

[cloud maple]

level 2 actions

[potent echo]

Lived his best life

[teal cargo]

idk why people even aggro them, they give nothing

[potent echo]

Maybe they didn't play l4d

[teal cargo]

like had a Ogryn aggro it cos he said he could tank but it went after our vets and they died so rip

[bleak sonnet]

then the vet aggrod it

xd

[teal cargo]

or the Vet died to something else

either way got executed by host

[red basin]

which lvl 10 perk do yall recommend

[gritty perch]

is that the communal one?

or is that the lvl 15?

[teal cargo]

I do peril resist?

[brave vale]

is this worth

[gritty perch]

probably psykenetic wrath

[teal cargo]

not sure if the damage isnt better though

[brave vale]

worth?

[gritty perch]

I used Inner Tranquility for a time but was unsure if that was actually doing anything

turns out, peril resistance does nothing substantial.

[dim pier]

Absolutely yes

[teal cargo]

its noticeable for brain bursting and purg

[potent echo]

That's like the best roll honestly

[brave vale]

is warp resist dump stat

[potent echo]

You don't need warp resist on fs at all

[gritty perch]

psykinetic wrath basically, in theory, lets you use warp abilities more, but turns out you'd still only get like 3 brain bursts with or with out it

[teal cargo]

FS only uses warp for the special

you can use your staff more maybe?

idk if its doing anything tbh

[dim pier]

And the push attack but that's only like 5 peril at most

[teal cargo]

kinda nonbo with Quietude too

[gritty perch]

nah still only gives you maybe one extra "cartridge", if you will, if you use the force staff

and basically nothing else

[potent echo]

Yea it's good on staves but the effect is like 35 to 25%

[candid temple]

less than 5 with 80% warp resist

[teal cargo]

what bout with Surge or Purg?

[gritty perch]

many of the abilities need to be reworked in this game 😂

[teal cargo]

24% warp resist 🤔

or peril resist

with 4 stacks

[potent echo]

You can check under inspect weapon it gives you all the numbers

[gritty perch]

Even if you put Inner Tranquility WITH Warp Battery, you don't get much more

its noticeable, but barely enough to make a difference, and its CERTAINLY not worth two whole perks.

[candid temple]

I was talking about push attack using 5

with 80% sword it's less

[potent echo]

What is 5?

[teal cargo]

Yea Warp Battery idk compared to Kinetic Flayer

Flayer is good

Hmmm maybe ill just switch to the dmg

[gritty perch]

6% peril resist + 4 warp charges = 24% // Warp Batter = 6 warp charges. 6 x 6% = 36%, which makes it noticeable then, but that requires using two separate perks just to eek out an extra 12%, which is NOT worth it

[potent echo]

I will never stop singing warp battery and ascendant blaze combo being mandatory

[teal cargo]

idk but with Surge the dmg doesn't really matter

[gritty perch]

yes, that works wonders

[potent echo]

6 stacks is the break point to kill dreg riflemen on heresy or damnation

[gritty perch]

Warp Battery is great for other reasons, just not with Inner Tranquility

[teal cargo]

Ascendent Blaze is so nice with Purg staff

[potent echo]

Yea with ascendant blaze, you don't keep the stacks so I got with the first row for extra damage

[teal cargo]

just tonso stacks

[gritty perch]

Kinetic Flayer is personally my favorite.

[teal cargo]

yea i use Flayer

cos you zapping something and then BB them

[gritty perch]

ALL ATTACKS have a 10% chance to trigger brain burst.

That's huge, with how many enemies you're hitting at once

[teal cargo]

yea

[potent echo]

It's great if you run accetran psyker

[teal cargo]

and builds a stack

[tranquil fiber]

once every 15s

[gritty perch]

combine that with Psychic Communion and Ascendant Blaze and you're basically always at max stacks.

[gritty perch]

If it were any less time than that it'd be broken 🤣

[tranquil fiber]

yeah its okay in moderation

it helps with keeping warp stacks more than anything

[gritty perch]

too bad soul blaze is...middling

If only there were combo detonations in this game.

[tranquil fiber]

might be one day in the future

[gritty perch]

like soul blaze triggering a combo detonation for other warp abilities / other abilities from other classes.

[potent echo]

The soulblaze talents are weak for sure

[tranquil fiber]

for now Soul Blaze only really works well for the Purge staff build

[gritty perch]

like, imagine soul blazing a target, and the zealot uses a thunder hammer lightning special, and it causes an explosion

[potent echo]

The only time 10-3 is good is when you find a huge riflemen patrol, pop 3 gunners and watch the rest burn to death

Actually now that I think about it..

[gritty perch]

and pick what, 15-3?

cerebreal lacerations I just passed right over

I mean, i imagine it works for bosses

but right now I feel like thats unnecessary against everything except the daemonhost, were killing it in a timely manner is vital

sure, bb the daemonhost and watch it take additional damage from everyone else for 5s

the thunder hammer from the zealot already does incredible single target damage if you special + heavy attack + chastise the wicked --> attack the enemy. applying an extra 15% damage on top of that and I really want to see just how much damage one swing would do kekw

[tranquil fiber]

its only really good for the lasgun build for the Psyker

but most things melt with that build Recon Lasgun

maybe for monstrosities

[gritty perch]

you mean the Accatran Lasgun?

IE the lasgun repeater?

[tranquil fiber]

yeah

cause it can trigger the 10% BB proc

[gritty perch]

that thing fires so fast the 15% would really stack especially on weak point hit

okay I can see that working

[tranquil fiber]

only really useful vs things it struggles to mo down

ie Carapace enemy types

[lethal plover]

That's an old build before flayer was nerfed

[gritty perch]

shooting gunners too I imagine

especially if you get one that gives you immunity to suppression

[lethal plover]

Flayer doesn't do that much DPS when you think about it. It's just a lucky burst in store

[potent echo]

15-1 as usual

[potent echo]

Flayer got nerfed?

[gritty perch]

yeah 15-1 is nuts

[bold flint]

is there a black hood we can wear

[gritty perch]

currently I have: 5-1, 10-1, 15-1, 20-2

25-3, 30-2

[tranquil fiber]

there is a dark one and a white one.. unsure when it unlocks...
Didn't see it until I hit 30

[potent echo]

There's one with goggles

Locked behind some nasty penances

[wild prairie]

how do i ge to look like the geordi la forge looking guy on yhr character creation screen

[candid temple]

hope fatshark puts it in the store

if you mean that

[frigid sparrow]

So is emperors blessing time limited or something? I remember someone saying it only gave out 10 gifts for the week. I've also heard you have to do insanely well to increase the chances

[wild prairie]

YES THAT

[frigid sparrow]

Like, does anyone know how it even works other than "finish mission, cross fingers?"

[long wharf]

its pure random

and don't believe anyone that claims you can affect the chance based on in-game activity

[lucid mortar]

hmm .. so my feet are covered in peanut butter for nothing?

[long wharf]

just the pure, sticky enjoyment of it

[wild prairie]

Yes

[lucid mortar]

unlucky

[long wharf]

the emperor does not approve of peanut butter toes

[brave vale]

So i should upgrade that sword without a doubt, the warp resistance doesnt matter at all

[candid temple]

tinfoil hat, when I equipped curios with "x% chance to get curio instead of weapon", I got 0 emperor's gifts.
Removing said curio, emperor's gift relatively common.

[gritty perch]

I get them all the time on my zealot

[long wharf]

and?

[gritty perch]

I have so many orange tier items from it

[frigid sparrow]

What difficulties are you doing?

[long wharf]

I said nothing about people not getting them

I said "random is random"

[gritty perch]

MALICE. 🤣

[candid temple]

33% warpresist is a bit dogshit, but not the end of the world.
Upgrade and see if you get a decent blessing.

[lucid mortar]

I'd say I get something* like 20% of the time. (*it's always garbage)

[potent echo]

For sure, warp resist is really nth

[candid temple]

well on forcesword it's not super important

[gritty perch]

the only reason I don't do heresy, is because I can't ever find good gear for my build.

[potent echo]

Yea

[brave vale]

will it affect peril block

[potent echo]

No

Check under inspect weapon

[gritty perch]

I have green/blue gear because I up it to purple and I get a useless trait so I look for something to replace it

[potent echo]

Now just pray to the omnissiah for deflector

[gritty perch]

and I don't want to do damnation unless I have all orange with good effects

[frigid sparrow]

Warp resist being low might be helpful if you have trouble getting peril up quick enough for passive regen

We talking sword?

[potent echo]

Damnation definitely doable without good gear

[gritty perch]

speaking of SWORD

what's the verdict on Chainsword vs Sword

[potent echo]

Cleared one yesterday with my lvl 20 ogryn and lvl25 zealot

[gritty perch]

I've seen people go either way

[candid temple]

use axe if you're going non forcesword

[gritty perch]

damnation? o.O

[potent echo]

Yea just find a good LFG

[gritty perch]

ugh I can't use the axe at all lol

[candid temple]

you want mk 5

[devout axle]

Reposting this one last time tonight before I head to bed.
https://strawpoll.com/polls/kogjv36xvg6

[potent echo]

Or some pubs are great too depending on the time

[candid temple]

higher difficulty = better chance at decent players.

[lucid mortar]

3s get degrees

[gritty perch]

depends, do that bum rush across the map? XD

half the time I get people who run off by themselves

[fallow meadow]

Why! My emperor! Why!?

[gritty perch]

and then two other people just run off somewhere else together and I have no idea where anyone's going -_-

[potent echo]

Just follow them or trust them to be fine on their own

Make sure you don't go past any drops so you can still help them if needed

[devout axle]

Join us brother. Become Traumatized.

[gritty perch]

a lot of times we're fighting a group, and then the other three just take off and I'm in back fighting off a group at the rear

and then I get left on my own fighting the guys on our ass

[potent echo]

I've been using it on heresy, not terrible but horde clearing with this is really abysmal

[candid temple]

force sword? dodge after them.

[potent echo]

You scatter the horde and make it harder for flamer zealot to deal with them

[gritty perch]

oh my god.

I'm surprised that's not a 500

[teal cargo]

man wtf 😢

[devout axle]

I don't post this ironically. I am a Traumatized individual.

[bold flint]

pogger\

[teal cargo]

useless Traumas

[gray island]

Skill diff

[devout axle]

We'll all be Traumatized in the end.

[lone haven]

always auto gun rewards i hate my life

[teal cargo]

😔

[bold flint]

im new to psyker, whats so bad about traumas

[devout axle]

Nothing. They are the best staff. Ignore the nay-sayers.

[candid hawk]

High peril gain

[candid temple]

horrible perril generation

[candid hawk]

other then that its pretty solid

[fallow meadow]

Shot cast range, high peril

[candid temple]

it's the BB of staffs.

[potent echo]

Stagger is great vs elites though

[devout axle]

Also, yes. Their Peril cost is too high for them to efficiently do much compared to other staves.

[candid hawk]

i find trauma to be a good staff to weave a lot of melee into your playstyle, whip the staff out cast a couple to thin up the horde then go back to melee

[gritty perch]

trauma is good if you have one with a wide enough radius

[candid temple]

fullcharge void also staggers decently and surge is surge.

[gritty perch]

at lower levels it sucks though

[potent echo]

Yea duellingsword/axe with trauma is usually how you want to go

[gritty perch]

blast radius is important

[lucid mortar]

i only use combat knife and brain blast

[devout axle]

That's illegal.

[potent echo]

I only play sedition

[devout axle]

That is also illegal.

[gritty perch]

hah

[sick fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[worthy mica]

how do u guys raise ur overall shop ilvl to like 370?

is that even a thing?

[potent echo]

I think most people are agreeing that it's rng and character level

[teal cargo]

you ever feel like theres teams that keep rushing ahead?

[lucid mortar]

find the highest ilvl combat knife and use it

the game will feel sorry for you and give you better stuff

[teal cargo]

like im finna fighting a bulwark and crusher and my whole team just runs up ahead and leaves me ☠️

[craggy breach]

so lightning staff is hot garbage?

[potent echo]

Just dodge kite your way to them with infinite dodges

[potent echo]

Yes

Delete surge staff

[devout axle]

Base Item ratings that appear in your shop are between (PlayerLevelx10) and (PlayerLevelx10+80)

[craggy breach]

i have one with max dmg roll and it says secondary does 330 dmg. im testing it in meat grinder and it doesnt do anything close to 150 dmg

absolute joke

[potent echo]

It does less damage if spread over multiple targets

But has hard agree on absolute garbacity

[lucid mortar]

the damage spreads like peanut butter

[craggy breach]

I see, it's still trash tho. takes 3 charges to kill one enemy when in a horde and by that time your at max peril

[devout axle]

Also posting the current results since we reached 100 votes and it looks very nice.

[craggy breach]

I can't believe people like it

the only redeeming quality imo is the primary fire

[lucid mortar]

I know, it's staggering

[remote tusk]

Makes sense. Surge staff makes high level runs a lot smoother, but voidstrike can be a lot more fun when running with randoms

Glad surge is seeing some love too

Purge *

[devout axle]

For comparison, these were the results from the poll I ran the day before "full release"

[craggy breach]

i play heresy and damnation only and everytime i use surge staff a zealot with flame thrower or another psyker with flame staff stagger everything way more effectively than i can with garbage surge staff

[potent echo]

Yea can't imagine people playing psyker too everyone should play vet honestly

[gilded magnet]

Have you guys got any tips for pick n mix? suffering with this last penance D:

[craggy breach]

it's honestly sad

[potent echo]

I haven't got it either, need a team

[craggy breach]

the only explination i can come up with is fat shark wants to keep all the kids coming straight from a cod lobby from leaving the game so they just made the vet broken as shit

[remote tusk]

I need it too. Last one on the list for a lot of us it seems

[gilded magnet]

it do be heckin stressful

had one run where im sure i had it but musta been a split second off

[worn mica]

you got a link to the survey if its still active

[ornate hamlet]

anyone else faced with a plasteel shortage

[devout axle]

https://strawpoll.com/polls/kogjv36xvg6

[remote tusk]

4/5 difficulty + bonus spawns with a team with shield ogryn is my best bet. Shoot down ads, get shieldgryn to aggro elites, then pop them?

[worn mica]

see looks wise my answer if voidstrike or purg but actual favorite idk now

it would help if a purg dropped for me 😡

[ebon jolt]

I feel your pain. My best purg staff is a blue 350 with a crap blessing and perk.

[potent echo]

Yes, they should give use a resource trader

[candid hawk]

Could be worse, i got a 380 roll on a hellbore on my vet

[ebon jolt]

350 total rating btw. Not base.

[lethal plover]

damn

[devout axle]

Sad. 🥹

[heavy sun]

Any advice on "Going Out With A Bang"? Trying to help a friend get it.

[lethal plover]

I need focused channeling for my staff

[potent echo]

But they buffed the iron sights

[long wharf]

do it on Malice, it's not that hard

[candid hawk]

i got a 380 dagger today on my psyker although idk if daggers are all that good on a psyker

[potent echo]

Bring a shieldgryn, run in aggro a bunch of ragers, hold special block, let your psyker pog out

[candid hawk]

i havnt really heard anybody run dagger psyker lol

[lucid mortar]

k but like...

[ornate hamlet]

lead the charge

[lethal plover]

trauma is so fun

[fallow meadow]

You use dagger to run very fast

[devout axle]

Lots of people run dagger on Psyker. Nobody talks about it because it's really nothing special.

[candid hawk]

well theres always tomorrow i guess

[lethal folio]

Trauma doesnt feel as easy to use as conflag

[lethal plover]

trauma allows me to stagger everyone around me 360 as a panic button, before committing to a full charge

[candid hawk]

im gonna log on before work so i can get a game in to get money on my sharpshooter and check the store every hour lol

some staffs would be nice, my store never rolls staffs

[lethal plover]

it also sends crushers flying even uncharged

such a good breather for the team

[potent echo]

Kind of inconsistent for me though, might depend on their attack animation

[lethal plover]

I have not been overwhelmed by mixed horde since I start learning trauma

the real threats are still the gunmen tho

[lethal plover]

something stupid I noticed is that, even if I place the explosion to be behind bulwarks, it depends on where I am, to calculate whether or not the shield can block it

like wtf physics is this

[potent echo]

Yes lmao, or I just wait for them to swing

[remote tusk]

I think that's what I like most about surge, the way it can chain leap across spaces and around corners to stun and mark out shooters

But trauma looks fun though

[cyan notch]

needs more range

[lethal plover]

the range is that of a grenade

well less than

this game has long grenade, but I treat it as a grenade

instant grenade though, the uncharged one, so good to clear 360 around you, before a full charge

[cyan notch]

i mean cast range

[lethal plover]

yeah past a point it just goes into the air

which is pretty funny

it's really like a grenade

[night shard]

Psyker feats don't particularly feel great, feels like they just don't compliment each other very well

[lethal plover]

nevertheless it controls dogs very well. I now enjoy traumatizing dogs

[remote tusk]

Wish FS turned it into a reverse gravity field staff. Watch foes hover into the air screaming until they disappear into the atmosphere

[hardy tinsel]

Voidstrike is bae. Better than Darth Sidius and the flamer staff

[tough pagoda]

😢

[slow raven]

for antax block attack spam, are all of the blessings that give stacking self-buffs useless? i just found out that decapitator stacks reset when you block, wondering what else is broken

[gritty perch]

many feats are like that but psyker especially so

[teal cargo]

wtf thas so good 👀

[night shard]

it's annoying cause any particular specialization build u want just doesn't work feat wise, none of the purgatus feats go well with the lvl 30 cause it resets warps and if you dont have 5/6 stacks using it then it doesn't even kill infested

[hardy tinsel]

Do y'all stack Toughness curios?

[night shard]

Purgatus build feels horrendous

[lethal plover]

I guess you could say the scabs have been
traumatically enriched

[teal cargo]

yea idk whether health or Toughness better

[potent echo]

Toughness and 1wound

[lethal plover]

health is better

it's the consensus I believe

[potent echo]

Susgryn

[slow raven]

i go with health because the bonuses are % based and we have higher base health so we get more value out of it. but honestly it doesn't feel like it makes much difference, on damnation your toughness and health gets melted instantly anyway

[potent echo]

Feels like you need at least 1 toughness to tank 1 close ranged burst

[worn mica]

i wish i would stop getting recon lasguns as emperors gifts

[supple skiff]

Does deflector force sword block a sniper shot, asking for a friend

[worn mica]

like give me ANYTHING else

[lethal plover]

bugged rn so not

[supple skiff]

But it’s suppose to?

[lethal plover]

trauma damage is also bugged
voidstrike peril is also bugged

[night marten]

no

[sacred swift]

Okay, I got the chance to try my Force Sword against a couple of Monstrosities, and it's absolute garbage. 80% Damage and 75% First Target bonus, it chips like 2% of the health bar with a heavy special attack.
So, anyone have any other suggestions for how Psykers can deal with monstrosities?

[lethal plover]

BB
not even kidding

[supple skiff]

Good to know

[potent echo]

Burn and BB

[night marten]

I hear axe is good. purge staff does ok damage (and weirdly I feel like hitting them in the face does more damage)

[lethal plover]

BB is safe and useful

[slow raven]

tank them so your vet can melt them. only partly kidding

[sacred swift]

BB is still like a small fraction of how fast other classes can burn monsters with the right weapons...we really have no better options?

[lethal plover]

it's not the best DPS but it also doesn't eat all your ammo

[potent echo]

Melee works in a pinch

[lethal plover]

you can get lasgun infernus for DPS against boss. alek would do that

[potent echo]

Has better dodge than BB so if the boss aggros you can kite better

[tired forge]

does anyone know how kinetic shield interacts with warp battery (6 max charges instead of 4)?

[night marten]

more resist to peril buildup

[supple skiff]

Isn’t that the ranged dmg resist one?

[tired forge]

that is the ranged toughness one that gives a range between 10 and 33%

[worthy wasp]

So I just learned about a mechanic that makes me happy I went Psyker

[jovial frigate]

my assumption is 6 is 33 4 is 22

[lethal plover]

another one?

[worthy wasp]

I didn't realize the game spawns more specials when someone in team is low on ammo

[supple skiff]

My guess is it’s still capped at 33 and with warp battery you have a longer buildup, so worse overall

[lethal plover]

big if true

[brisk plume]

Whats our best horde clearing melee wep?

[jovial frigate]

axe

[lethal plover]

axe

[lucid mortar]

combat knife

[worthy wasp]

Antax MkV Combat Axe. Spam Push attack

[supple skiff]

^

[lethal plover]

wdym it's not lore-accurate

[supple skiff]

Related question, the fuck is the axes alt fire suppose to do

[lethal plover]

stun mauler and rager

[potent echo]

Ignores stagger resistance so yea staggers those ragers

[lucid mortar]

ogryn belly button tickler

[potent echo]

Useful 1v1 that's about it

[supple skiff]

Ah, see this is why we need to be able to turn on ai in the meat grinder

[lethal plover]

push attack also stagger them so......

[supple skiff]

Really no point in using it then?

[lethal plover]

for flair

[potent echo]

For fun

[lethal plover]

flipping them axe around

[potent echo]

It's an axeblade to the nuts

[sacred swift]

I'm fond of dueling sword against hordes. Long reach and fast pokes, great for proccing Kinetic Flayer for free head-pops.

[lethal plover]

yeah, but axe will ragdoll everyone even ragers

[undone quiver]

I just use the axe and spam push attacks

Yeah that

[teal cargo]

hhmmmm good to know

[lethal plover]

"use the force, Luke"
"actually I prefer the axe"

[teal cargo]

doesnt ragdoll Crushers 😠

[ornate hamlet]

All about spamming the push attack with the power sword

[lethal plover]

that's why I roll trauma

[undone quiver]

Ok that's a pretty convincing argument for trauma lol

[heady bramble]

👀

[potent echo]

The holiest psyker

[echo parrot]

Aye yo

[cyan notch]

thats cool man happy for you really no shoulda been mine but yea happy for you bro deserved must be nice man happy for you

[lethal plover]

still sad that trauma is currently bugged.......

[surreal girder]

Jealous.

[lethal plover]

DEEEEEEVVVVSS

I filed a bug report on forum but I'm not sure anyone is reading. probably got lost among so many others

I would at least appreciate a confirmation

[potent echo]

Not sure if there's some hidden resistance in play

[rustic viper]

Holy shit, are those damage values actually applied ingame? 👀

[eager nexus]

Siblings, I need your opinion on this gift from the emperor

[lethal plover]

as you can see it's bugged so lower

voidstrike and surge apply their attack value correctly

[gray kelp]

I think mk 2 saber has a kinda mediocre heavy chain, dont like it much. Low cleave damage might also make it feel bad for horde clear though you may want to test that

[gilded magnet]

oh god damn it, i was about to get pick n mix on the 5th gunner and a mutant slammed into me -,-

[night marten]

unless you're using purge staff, this probably isn't going to be it

[topaz gale]

any point in the force sword im missing?
I've been using a chain sword and tbh it feels like it does the force sword's job a little better.

[eager nexus]

I am!

[night marten]

special attack, quell while active, deflector perk. that's pretty much everything

[cyan notch]

force sword can block bullets with a blessing and has great push/pushattack

[night marten]

oh. then it might be ok

[fringe garden]

Force Sword with deflector trait is cool. Let's you block bullets. Without that it seems pretty lackluster

[night marten]

I'm sure you can find better

[fringe garden]

Quelling with the force Sword seems less good than auto quell with a normal melee

[frigid sparrow]

Right??

[topaz gale]

aah alr
the special attack idk if i just dont understand but it feels meh

[frigid sparrow]

It does more damage than chain sword

With special

But its the same idea, rev attack

[echo parrot]

Worst thing is that that thing is perfect, but I dont like using it lol

[fringe garden]

I'm a big fan of the mk 2 and 4 duelist swords with their fast attacks and cleave

Mk 5 axe is super solid, too

[echo parrot]

Oh thank you discord for not updating the message list

[worthy wasp]

I'm loving all the tac axes

I'm hooked

[topaz gale]

i may have to give the force sword another shot when it pops up in shop then

didnt know about deflector

[fringe garden]

Yeah if you get deflector it adds massive utility

[topaz gale]

no force sword this roll though :(
oh well, back of my head

ty

[fringe garden]

Np

[worthy wasp]

Pick up white/green ones

And push em to blue

Even if they are shit

If you need deflector

[echo parrot]

I would love the force sword more if it didnt have negative dodge distance even with almost max percentage.

[lethal plover]

just psychic communion there. feat

4% chance

[echo parrot]

Even the axe does positive.

[lethal plover]

implying you even need to dodge

actually you need to dodge to move

but for staying alive you don't even need to dodge

[fringe garden]

Just kill something and it will auto quell very quickly

[echo parrot]

I live to be fast and twitchy

[main jay]

Managed to get +45% toughness Regen Speed. Will it affect this talent?

[echo parrot]

Passive vent on non force sword though

[gray kelp]

this game really does not want to give me good voidstrikes

i wont complain about the good purgatus staves it throws at me once in a while though

[arctic orbit]

any voidstrike's a good voidstrike

[long wharf]

any void staff is a decent void staff

good ones have Peril Transfer

[worthy wasp]

Ehh

I'd prioritize stat rolls over blessings/perks

[gray kelp]

my only peril transfer is a t1 blessing and has like 320 base rating

all my decent base rolls have useless perks like salvo which doesnt seem to work on alt fire

blessings*

though perks being bad also kinda true 😦

[worthy wasp]

Base stat is most important

Because thats likely the 1 thing we wont be able to change later

[gray kelp]

I know, would be nice if it were more optimized

[unkempt kite]

how solid of a roll is this? It seems like it's really good, but I'm not sure if the dueling sword is capable of hitting enough enemies to activate rampage

[gray kelp]

being able to reroll sprint efficiency/+stam will be nice though

[gray kelp]

I think dueling swords want high finesse? they seem centered around headshots and finesse directly influences headshot dmg and attack speed

[teal cargo]

i don see many poeple using mk2s though

[worthy wasp]

Not personally a fan of mk2, keep for the blessing tho

[teal cargo]

usually mk4s or mk5s

[velvet trail]

Mk2 is the worst of the 3

[worthy wasp]

Mk4 and Mk5 are the good ones

[gray kelp]

50% isnt horrible per se

but yeah mk 2 my least favorite dueling sword

[worthy wasp]

Mk4 has best horde clear by far

Mk5 has best elite killing power

[unkempt kite]

neato, thanks

[worthy wasp]

But def keep for later when crafting is added

[gray kelp]

speaking of dueling sabres

[worthy wasp]

I feel like the stron attack of the mk4 has a headshot modifier

[worthy wasp]

Jesus

You beat the game

[teal needle]

Now that's a sword

[gray kelp]

honestly idk what blessings are good for sabres but i wanna give them another go now lol

[gritty perch]

man this penance is killing me... xD

in more ways than one

[teal cargo]

wow thas a really good wsword

[worthy wasp]

Rampage seems beastly on an mk4

[teal cargo]

Im still using this axe lol

[worthy wasp]

Def not bad

[gray kelp]

thats my problem, mk5 is definitely more single target focused idk if rampaged is gonna be easy to use on mk5

[teal cargo]

mk5 murders mutants pretty good

[velvet trail]

Might be able to trigger it okay off the push atk

[gray kelp]

i could just not be a lazy ass and spend 2 minutes in meat grinder actually hold on

[worthy wasp]

That dodge range is gonna be insane

[gray kelp]

that's an accurate assessment

[vivid merlin]

here's my collection of non-deflection weapons please enjoy

[gray kelp]

struggling to hit more than 2 targets with it

[velvet trail]

Want to see some sad perk and blessing rolls?

Pretty much everything I dont need

[worthy wasp]

Lol

[velvet trail]

Not even sure which perk to get rid of now that we know we can only reroll one

[worthy wasp]

Atleast I believe you'll be able to change em later

Wait

Only 1 reroll?

Ugh

[velvet trail]

one of the two

it locks the other

[worthy wasp]

Same with blessings?

[velvet trail]

no news on blessings

[tall dune]

There is a Poxburster near you watch out

[vivid merlin]

grant me nurgle's blessing

just give it to me

[tall dune]

I can give you a Rot Christmas Tree (eyes not included)

[gray kelp]

apparently you lock in 1 perk slot that you can reroll multiple times but can't change the other stuff on the weapon

[pine topaz]

Ran heresy with surge and purgatory...... I think at heresy+ you really need a flamer

Heresy with surge without a zealot = tend to get overrun by horde

[worthy wasp]

What melee you use?

[pine topaz]

FS

[worthy wasp]

The mk5 antax dunks on hordes

Havent run into the issue

[gray kelp]

flamer can help but honestly like everything that isnt a surge psyker is capable of good horde clear so id attribute that more to bad randos than anything

and even then you have melee

[worthy wasp]

I'm a surge psyker with axe

Axe cleans house

Tbqh it prob needs nerfed

Because the push attack is honestly anti everything

[delicate stratus]

Hm yes very nice.

[worthy sage]

Now I can finally play the game

[worthy wasp]

Shit blessings, everything else amazing

[brave vale]

Does mobility matter for the Antax Mk V

[jovial frigate]

dont worry i can just change those at hadron :^)

[ornate hamlet]

What classifies "Critical peril"

because im still getting brain bursts in the red.

[jovial frigate]

when your videogame screams at you at 12329183091283109832109 volume

[tight niche]

have yall gotten the cliffhanger penance in actual play? or do I gotta do some nonsense

[full atlas]

https://gyazo.com/28be9146aa9ff5ce81cf746fadfd6480
BEHOLD

[ornate hamlet]

Got it when the game changed penances :l

[tight niche]

when did that happen?

[ornate hamlet]

Launch

[gray kelp]

the post-mk5 nerf experience

[teal cargo]

Feels like they would nerf Kinetic Deflection 😢

[hardy tinsel]

I don't understand when to dodge the Mutant chargers. And dogs...they just get me

[tight niche]

mutant isn't the worst

dog I don't understand at all

[fringe garden]

That thing is terrifying

[tight niche]

mutant I usually wait till last minute then shuffle left or right

[hardy tinsel]

I just had a dog run away from me while being hit by Voidburst, then instantly 180 and down me from twenty feet lol

[tight niche]

I genuinely hate the dogs, I've only ever found them frustrating

[wind forum]

I did it during normal play, doesn't need cheese or anything

[near wyvern]

Any tips for Pick n Mix?

[tight niche]

k, just reading it it seemed unlikely

[brave vale]

I hate to ask again but does mobility stat matteer for the Mk5 axe

[tight saddle]

Slide dodge the mutant, it's more consistent that way. The dog is pure bullshit since it's buggy as fuck

[hardy tinsel]

@tight niche I think you need to block until you have a good horde up on a bridge, then use class ability

[wind forum]

seems like a lot but hoards can be huge

hordes?

hordes

[hardy tinsel]

@tight saddle Yeah, I keep trying to side-step dodge at the right moment but they keep grabbing me

[near wyvern]

Helps to have a melee weapon out that has a bit longer and faster dodge

[hardy tinsel]

@near wyvern Huh...honestly didn't realize melee weapons had a faster dodge

Thanks for that

[obsidian void]

anybody got tips for going out with a bang? or should I just wait for the update next week since they might change it anyway

[gray island]

wow staffs are cool

WC lmao

[near wyvern]

I did it with friends, we had an Ogryn using a shield and then when we had a room full of elites I just went for it and got it.

[boreal sun]

trying to find a big un with shield for monstrum is hard

[valid marsh]

Do you guys think the heavy laspistol is good?

[wind forum]

not for a psykinetic

[frigid sparrow]

Does anyone know anything about a possible bug with emperors gift where if you equip a curio with + chance to receive a curio, it borks your gift chances?

[left briar]

playing low level is so painful as psyker.

[hardy tinsel]

Hey, on a Purgatus staff, it seems like it's either high damage/low Warp resist, or Low damage/High Warp resist? Is there a middle zone here?

[hot ice]

praise the emperor, thank you for this gift

[left briar]

you know it's not going to go well when the entire team tries to range the assassin boss

and takes an ammo box over medic

[hot ice]

that is some nutty BCR

holy

[hardy tinsel]

@hot ice Damn bruh, praise the Emperor indeed

[jaunty atlas]

oh man i just started a psyker, everything is good but ... the voices ... i have the choice between a muppet, a french muppet and an african middle aged man ?

[tight saddle]

Savant is so good wdym

[left briar]

when does psyker get a good melee option? Early level is all terrible melee options

[hot ice]

duelling swords my guy

[left briar]

which one

[jaunty atlas]

idk the sword works quite well

[valid marsh]

any of the axes, dueling swords, combat blade

[hot ice]

all are decent, mk5 is best

[delicate stratus]

Psyker melee is weak. But it's good enough. Dueling sword if you rely on spam, force sword for fancier stuff, chain sword if you know how to use revving well.

[frigid sparrow]

Mark IV for horde, Mk V for dodge, Mk V axe is great

[jaunty atlas]

savant is the first one ?

[delicate stratus]

Loner psyker is hilarious.

GrEnAdE!

[lethal plover]

this is all wrong

[delicate stratus]

If you say so.

[tight saddle]

Savant is the only thing close to a normal person that knows that he 40K setting is fucked.

[lethal plover]

psyker is the best melee along with Ogryn due to peril axe

[hot ice]

i love the seer voice

my beloved!

[jaunty atlas]

which one is savant please ?

[valid marsh]

While Psyker isn't melee oriented he does benefit from warp charge damage buffs on top of his innate anti elite aura

[jaunty atlas]

damn i cannot change it i must recreated a char

[lethal plover]

warp charge damage buffs don't even matter

[valid marsh]

Which is pretty damn good if you're running into specials and elites

[tight saddle]

Using that axe put me to sleep, doing that was so boring to me.

[lethal plover]

touche

[valid marsh]

[delicate stratus]

peril axe feels cheesy lmao

[left briar]

i havent been managing warp charges at all. I feel like it's annoying to mange it

[lethal plover]

it's so easy the game becomes boring

[hot ice]

on heresy+ yeah you dont need to tbh

[delicate stratus]

I like throwing basketballs

[worthy wasp]

I've been really enjoying tac axes

All 3 are good

[candid mesa]

Mhmm warp charges you have to keep tabs like brain burst a fodder to maintain 4 stacks, and that's 12% damage boost

[sonic aspen]

Spaghetti flys out of my fingers

[cyan notch]

12% poggers

[delicate stratus]

Just use the feat that gives you and teammates a chance to get warp charges

You get them pretty quickly where it matters

[sonic aspen]

Just use communism

[candid mesa]

That feat is irreplacable tbf

[hot ice]

also i use kinetic flayer

[sonic aspen]

Our warp charges

[valid marsh]

12 % is a lot considering the way games like this work

[delicate stratus]

I feel kinetic flayer isn't worth it.

[valid marsh]

reaching breakpoints

[worthy wasp]

Ye, melee Psyker is slept on. 12% damage from warp charges and +10% damage vs elites from coherency

[valid marsh]

might reduce a 2 shot to a one shot

[lethal plover]

flayer is only there if you want warp upkeep

[echo parrot]

This man

[valid marsh]

But I do feel like warp upkeep needs to be less tedious

[sonic aspen]

and I rolled a 374 sword with additional elite damage on its perk so it feels nice

[worthy wasp]

Kinetic Flayer does it for you

[lethal plover]

I mean, just playing the game

[hot ice]

it pretty much makes sure i always have 12% dmg lol

[runic gate]

Y’all only have 4 warp charges? Sheeeit

[near wyvern]

Why? Warp charges don't matter, they are just an added bonus.

If your build depends on them you take Psykinetic Aura and Kinetic Flayer and call it a day.

[runic gate]

6 warp gang wya

[cursive moon]

considering Psykinetic's Wrath gives you 15% dmg @ high peril for your force sword the 12% for the charges don't look that hot

[lethal plover]

if I could trade 12% dmg for 12% more health I would do it
surviving is the most important

[worthy wasp]

Psychic Communion + Kinetic Flayer = Always have warp charges

Quietitude + Kinetic Deflection = Peril for blocking, Peril for toughness

[lethal plover]

all the DPS in the world doesn't matter when dog is on you or you go down

[valid marsh]

So that you can actually use his toughness on warp charge talent more reliably and so I can use ascendant blaze a little more often

Because when I do get going with ascendant blaze

its so much fun

[candid mesa]

I find the combat knife the cream of the crop

[worthy wasp]

"Warp Charges dont matter" isnt true

But

[valid marsh]

It's pretty damn good, the combat knife

[worthy wasp]

Going out of your way to upkeep them is detrimental too

[valid marsh]

Right?

Thats what I mean

[worthy wasp]

Hence why psychic communion + kinetic flayer is the wombo combo

[valid marsh]

should be a bit easier to run upkeep without relying on a 4% chance all the time

[near wyvern]

You have BB for toughness on warp charge when you absolutely need it.

For ascendant blaze you just use kinetic flayer & psykinetic communion or kinetic flayer + purge staff and you are all set.

[candid mesa]

Ive always used the combat knife on damnation 5/5 with my voidstrike staff or my purgatus, works wonders

[lethal plover]

confession time, does anyone even pay attention to warp upkeep past 30?

[valid marsh]

Yes

[worthy wasp]

Not at all, just because its done for me passively

[brave vale]

wwhy does the combat knfie do well

[lethal plover]

yeah it's all auto

[worthy wasp]

Because the combo of feats

[valid marsh]

At least I do, because I like to ascendant blaze poxwalker crowds

[hot ice]

nope, i get it passively

[valid marsh]

and not do it early unless I really need to

[near wyvern]

Why knife over duelling sword?

[candid mesa]

Way better mobility for a psyker, heavy attack can 1 shot any mobs even with flak armor with max warp charge as you run around like an acrobat

[worthy wasp]

Feel like warp charges are easier to keep up the higher the diff

Knife better mobility than Dueling Sword...?

[valid marsh]

Yeah the heavy attack on combat knife can be charged while sprinting with zero slow down

[hot ice]

its easier to passively keep it up the higher the diff

[candid mesa]

Exactly. Its busted

[valid marsh]

And the heavy attack is extremely quick to charge

[lethal plover]

mk 5 dueling sword better dodge distance

iirc

[worthy wasp]

I'd think mk5 dueling sword had best mobility in game

[near wyvern]

It is because the higher the diff the more enemies there spawns, when you have 4% chance of a charge per kill done within coherency it becomes more reliable

[hot ice]

duelling sword is also more stylish

[worthy wasp]

Ye I know

[hot ice]

[valid marsh]

if you use the punch on the knife, you can make a melee attack immediately afterward to do a sort of "medium" attack which is essentially a slightly weaker but faster heavy attack

[lethal plover]

true dat

[cyan notch]

what does max warp charge do here

[valid marsh]

+12% damage to reach breakpoints on certain targets

[lethal plover]

too bad stylish is the way of slaanesh

[valid marsh]

or 18 in my case

[cyan notch]

wait what

[candid mesa]

Max warp charge at max stack gives 12 percent dmg boost to all sources of your damage

[cyan notch]

i thought that only applied to bb

[tight saddle]

What breakpoints did you reach? What enemy types?

[worthy wasp]

If you use BB on ogryn, then 6 warp charges is worth for breakpoint.

But I'd argue its highly inefficient to do so

[lethal plover]

I would need to know what breakpoints those are

[brave vale]

Is this a good roll for it?

[worthy wasp]

But

Aside from that

[valid marsh]

Trappers, bombers, gunners and the like

[candid mesa]

Looking great

[lethal plover]

trappers, bombers, gunners, snipers already 1shot by BB on damnation without warp charges

[valid marsh]

some targets are just too beefy but you have the mobility and workroom to just try again

Sometimes stabbing them in the face is faster

[still bane]

What's the word on getting the Malleus Monstronum penance done?

[worthy wasp]

Ye bb just needs to be faster tbqh

[hot ice]

ogyrn takes the aggro with shield while you wail on it

ez

[still bane]

So far I think bringing a shieldgryn - yeah

Specifically a Daemonhost

They count right?

[hot ice]

yes

[near wyvern]

A shield ogryn tanking demonhost for you while others enjoy the show

Did it yesterday like that

[candid mesa]

Hold on, I still have my stream VOD with my gameplay I'll share that in a bit.

[still bane]

Would a tall, strapping Ogryn like to help me with that?

[worthy wasp]

If I were to change anything about Psyker, I'd alter shitty talents into diff ones so ppl have more build variety and I'd also make BB 1.5 sec charge like it now after the BB ult, and BB ult would be it insta cast for 10 secs

[hot ice]

\

[candid mesa]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1671840514&t?=1h46m40s Legendary combat blade in action

[lethal plover]

"Sorry. Unless you’ve got a time machine, that content is unavailable."

[candid mesa]

oh brb

[valid marsh]

[worthy wasp]

Aside from bb, I dont feel psyker needs any buffs

[lethal plover]

[left mirage]

trauma staff should be removed, i agree

[hot ice]

maybe replace the normal speed while quelling

perk

[lethal plover]

[worthy wasp]

But talent tree def needs reworked for more build variety

[candid mesa]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1671840514?t=1h46m40s

[valid marsh]

I feel some of Psykers talents need to be swapped out, not really so much buffed aside from some of his staffs which just suck

[cyan notch]

no wtf trauma needs buff

[near wyvern]

Soulblaze needs a buff

[hot ice]

since its kinda useless

[left mirage]

that's the joke lmao

[lethal plover]

trauma is better than void
there I said it

[worthy wasp]

Well wait

[candid mesa]

working link

[warm meteor]

SO BRAVE

[valid marsh]

Yeah probably

knocks down crowds regardless of mass

[warm meteor]

traumas hitbox still gives me trauma tho

[left mirage]

void feels way cooler but yeah, you dont really need the ranged horde clear that void affords

[worthy wasp]

The bad options need to be AS GOOD as what we have now. Like Soulblaze and Quell while walkint

[near wyvern]

The blessing 1 stack of soulblaze on crit is hilarious. You don't even notice it's there.

[lethal plover]

trauma can do an instant 360 panic explosion to stagger everyone then commit to a full charge

[valid marsh]

problem is it should also be able to clear chaff

[lethal plover]

well, if you get focused channeling staff, you probably don't even need the panic button

[valid marsh]

if its gonna cost basically half my peril something better be dying

I need bang for my buck

which is sad because I find Trauma to be the coolest

[lethal plover]

500 damage good enough for you? even when it's currently bugged
it kills basically all trash zombies

[warm meteor]

it definitely is a more pricey staff perils wise, and in the right situations voids dps feels like it just cant be matched per peril point spent

[valid marsh]

effective damage radius is way too small for the amount of peril its using

[lethal plover]

more importantly it sends crushers and dogs flying

I have been clearing damnation with it all night and let me just say
peril management is so piss easy

[warm meteor]

you can stun dogs with every staff i think?

[lethal plover]

at 75 peril I pop again

[magic gull]

can surge staff right click hit weak points?

[warm meteor]

i dont think so

[magic gull]

i know the sound is different when you crit, but not sure how to tell if you hit weak point

[lethal plover]

not with void, in the same fashion
trauma's push AoE is way bigger than its damage AoE

[warm meteor]

yeah not a knock down but void still stun locks them if you keep hitting them

[severe dove]

I think it's funny how "Going Out With a Bang" requires you to play poorly and have it work out

[lethal plover]

if you can hit the dog running around corners with void, well you deserve the W
trauma doesn't even need to aim

[candid mesa]

Team Voidstrike 4 lyfe. 2600+ kills damnation~

[hot ice]

bro that last dog flew to the moon

[valid marsh]

yeah the stagger aoe is great

[lethal plover]

yes, it's very fun

[severe dove]

Sorry you lost me at trauma staff

[warm meteor]

and its not traumas peril cost messing up peril management. it just can do less stuff before you have to manage peril. after trying all the staffs void feels the simplest to run 100 percent uptime on. purge also feels like it can have a very high uptime

[candid mesa]

Trauma is just the weakest of the bunch not going to lie

[lethal plover]

voidstrike peril is currently bugged

[warm meteor]

and i like lots of staff uptime with less quelling cuz it feels cooler to be blasting psychic stuff so often rather then its actual effect on the game

[valid marsh]

purgatus is fine soulblaze just needs to be stronger

[candid mesa]

You can't hurl huge ball of fire from 200 meters away, Trauma has range limit

[warm meteor]

you need to give more context, in what way?

[valid marsh]

problem lies with the status, not the staff

[severe dove]

I think it's funny how you can just casually charge up another stream of fire because perils won't start trying to kill you till AFTER you finish channeling it. So you can be super greedy with wrath cd lol

[candid mesa]

Especially looking up when using Trauma forcestaff just to gain the longest range.

[severe dove]

With Purgation

[lethal plover]

voidstrike peril
And trauma damage are currently bugged

[valid marsh]

it takes extremely little peril to fire off voidstrikes

[lethal plover]

voidstrike should do more peril and trauma should do more damage

[warm meteor]

mine takes nearly 20 percent for a charged blast

[valid marsh]

very cheap

[warm meteor]

uncharged is super cheap tho, as pricey as a primary blast

[valid marsh]

20% is nothing compared to the others

[candid mesa]

Anyone wanna hear about a good secret? I know of a way to keep using the purgatus staff without exploding yourself. It's god-tier

[grave bobcat]

Is Warp Flurry blessign even working?

It doesn't feel as though it is

[valid marsh]

especially with how good it feels to see a fully charged voidstrike ball kill a line of troops then exploding

[lethal plover]

yes we know
infinite purgatus didn't get fixed

[warm meteor]

exactly, but its not as cheap as a primary shot which is what the bug seems to be. im curious if its a bug that effects every shot or just some of them? or if its new as i havent played in a week

[lethal plover]

as it is, trauma offers a mix between horde clearing (like void) and crowd control (for dogs and crushers and bursters like surge)

for burster, as in

[worthy wasp]

Trauma has potential to be strongest staff, but ye damage low imo

Way too low for the peril

[lethal plover]

right now it kills all trash zombies instantly
if they fix it it will mow down crushers too

[candid mesa]

You are the most vulnerable using Trauma

[lethal plover]

in the first clip, the fix for that

is an insta explosion at your feet

[still bane]

Are Force Swords considered weak?

[lethal plover]

that staggers everyone around you, something neither void nor surge can do

with that breathing room, proceed to a bigger explosion

[left mirage]

yknow how they should buff psyker

[candid mesa]

It's only rlly good at chokepoints where you can spam your force push on endless hordes

[left mirage]

let them choose other class nades

[valid marsh]

Force Sword has unlimited dodges and his force push offers very good situation control

combine with deflector and peril blocking and its extremely good for survivability and single target damage

[lethal plover]

force sword lets you live forever yeah, even against some bullets

[valid marsh]

horrible for crowd clearing but thats what your staff is for

[lethal plover]

just need to pair it with a horde clearing staff

[cursive moon]

I have no idea how good the zealot hammers are but Force Swords are probably one of the best weapons ingame dps wise

[lethal plover]

oh boy, someone fell for the dps meme

[cursive moon]

problem is they still completly suck compared to vet bolter usage, like everything else

[brazen tundra]

it works well with a surge staff imo cause even if the surge staff isnt killing most of the time it just stuns everything for you to smack up

[left mirage]

if im running force deflect i usually take purge / vs

[valid marsh]

surge staff does good damage and has extremely powerful cc against anything that can flinch

[delicate stratus]

I like voidstrike with force deflect.

[left mirage]

if im running axe i run surge

[valid marsh]

combine that with any single target weapon

[left mirage]

trauma just kinda exists

[delicate stratus]

I can delete ranged dudes easily and also soak attention for free

[valid marsh]

Yeah, you're gonna go places

[lethal plover]

usability is more important than DPS. if a bunch of ragers are mixed into a horde, force sword special will make you stuck and then get hit by a bunch of ads. In fact the best option is to just focus on surviving. Only use special when nothing can hurt

DPS doesn't matter when you're dead

[valid marsh]

Indeed

[delicate stratus]

Burst tends to be better than sustained imo

[warm meteor]

just dont die, ez

[delicate stratus]

Hence why bolter is so good.

[warm meteor]

bolter does look dope

[valid marsh]

burst is better because le funny breakpoints

better to one shot an enemy than have to shoot twice no matter what

[delicate stratus]

Kinda wish we had curios that increased BB damage. That'd be nice.

[frigid sparrow]

Welp, level 30 reached on psyker.

[lethal plover]

congratz now u can BB faster

[left briar]

nice lv30 bro

[frigid sparrow]

I'm pretty certain something is off with the gifts. I hit my 50 missions penance. You wanna know how many gifts I got? Two.

[warm meteor]

i like purge but i dont like being vulnerable to long range situations. if i get a cool bullet blocking sword ill use the purge more often

[left briar]

psyker my last to lv30, im still a ways to go

already got vet/zealot/ogryn to 30

[cursive moon]

Why even increase bb dmg though? It' still not super usefull when you have bolter vet in the game

[left briar]

those were easy to 30 by comparison

[delicate stratus]

Cause not all vets are god-tier with the bolter.

[lethal plover]

oh boy, people fall for bolter DPS meme again
it's not even the best vet gun

[delicate stratus]

And if it's some asshole that likes to hide (bombers and sometimes gunners) you're better at it than the Vet

[left briar]

bolter just cool blowing stuff up

[delicate stratus]

Ye. MG12 is the best gun for Vet generally. Bolter is stronk but its a bit of a meme

[lethal plover]

yep

in damnation how many trash gunmen are there? bolter can't provide covering fire the whole time

the lack of coverage will just kill your team

[delicate stratus]

But it doesn't feel as good as going full auto with the bolter and laughing.

[warm meteor]

bolters are just cool as hell, doesnt matter if its the best it makes people explode with reactive mini missiles fired from a .75 caliber boombox of a gun

[cursive moon]

every damnation I run is way easier with bolter vets

[trail garnet]

Am i the only one who doesn't use a staff, like at all?

[cursive moon]

but sure

[lethal plover]

no I get it. as 30 vet it feels cathartic to magdump into a wall of crushers

but I can't magdump the whole time

[warm meteor]

if u say you use a lasgun ill scream

[lethal plover]

trash gunmen are everywhere and I have to conserve ammo

[delicate stratus]

90% of the problems you face in Damnation are the hordes of small gunner dudes

[trail garnet]

Prepare to scream

[warm meteor]

AHHHHH

[delicate stratus]

since they hit like trucks and are perfectly accurate

[trail garnet]

Mk VId Recon Lasgun, Torrent rate of fire is my pride and joy

[delicate stratus]

Fortunately basketballs are effective for clearing gunner men

[warm meteor]

you make me sick sibling

tell me you at least use the force sword

[lethal plover]

yep I pray for a lasgunner. if they can kill the trash gunmen, I truly have nothing to fear as a psyker

so do ogryns

[cyan notch]

torrent is too ammo hungry imo i prefer rapidfire

[lethal plover]

and zealots

[warm meteor]

if not you better explain why you arent playing a different class

[delicate stratus]

I feel like Fatshark is gonna like

[trail garnet]

Dueling Sword

[warm meteor]

thats at least a unique of ours

[delicate stratus]

make a mod where it's all gunners or something and change damnation to have more of something else

[still bane]

Psykers need to make a Force Rod melee staff

[delicate stratus]

cause lord does it push a lot of pressure onto the Vet to be good

[lethal plover]

we have prominent gun psyker advocates in the channel
#psyker-class message

[delicate stratus]

gun psyker can be gud

It's just kinda weird to pick psyker and then like... NOT use the crazy magic stuff

[warm meteor]

the funny thing is psyker staffs in the table top game hit like a truck but lack armour pen in melee. so the weak melee of the staff makes little sense

[trail garnet]

I like to use the recon lasgun because my feats are set up really good to be anti-boss and anti special

[lethal plover]

the purpose of gun psyker only becomes apparent in damnation
just because the trash gunmen hit so god damn hard

[still bane]

Yeah

[delicate stratus]

indubitably.

[severe dove]

Question: Does Essence Harvest work only if you get a warp charge or if you would have gotten a warp charge, say you bb an enemy at full stacks

[delicate stratus]

It works at full stacks

[still bane]

Nope it works at full

[severe dove]

kk

I kinda wanna use Psykinetics wrath for purg staff

Should i or just stick with inner tranq?

[delicate stratus]

Inner tranq is kinda training wheels. You don't NEED it but it does lead to some fun shenanigans

[lethal plover]

basically recommendation is ascendant blaze 6 stacks with peril resistance and psychic communion

[delicate stratus]

flamethrower doesn't really benefit much from damage though. You don't hit any meaningful breakpoints

[trail garnet]

High rate of fire + 10% passive chance to brain burst +15% damage from non warp sources on brainbursted target, Yes the passive has a 15s cooldown, but with the recon lasgun it is a 100% guarantee to proc on your desired target, and is pretty much constantly being used and sent on cooldown to maximize the amount of times it procs during a match

[severe dove]

For purg staff?

[lethal plover]

yes