psyker-class

[night marten]

still think the best strat for both of these is to join missions asap with bots, and try to get them on the first pack

bots can be cannon fodder while you setup

[modest juniper]

Ahh, I still need levels for that

I'm barely level 16

[night marten]

oh, no rush then. get to 30 before caring about anything imo

should savor those penances as the endgame you can focus on, because there isn't much post 30 (currently)

[tiny wharf]

Pick N mix (in my experience) is infinitely easier than going out with a bang. Don't really need your team's help (Read; interfere)
It's much harder for your team to screw it up for you. I have pick n mix done. Still grinding out going out with a bang.

[night marten]

my experience was completely the opposite. got the bang penance on my literal first attempt

pick n mix took all day

[modest juniper]

I am so cloooooseee awuughhhh

But yeah, you're right ahah.

[tranquil fiber]

You'll be back next month

[modest juniper]

Ye, I figure I'd do it easily with a Brogryn shielder

and just bunch em up for me

Same for the ledge thing

[night marten]

anyone know what qualifies as the Maniac enemy type?

[livid wraith]

flamers/mutant/rager

maybe one other i can't remember. it will say it in the range

pox burster maybe?

[modest juniper]

It's the subtype, yeah

Remember there are two different types of Ragers

The naked ones with chemical vials and tubes on em

and the plated ones

Maniacs are the naked ones

[night marten]

also includes trapper

[devout axle]

Maniacs are Trappers, Bombers, Flamers, and Mutants. Ragers do not count as Maniacs.

[night marten]

hm, seems that way

[livid wraith]

Bombers aren't maniacs i'm pretty sure. also the naked rager is.

[modest juniper]

Yep.

[night marten]

yea, that's right

[modest juniper]

This is what I based my assumption on

[night marten]

such a weird spread of enemies in a damage type group

might first believe it's on of these two front guys

[livid wraith]

flak ragers seem to be staggered and easily dealt with. rager maniacs are the real problem.

[spiral kayak]

the guy behind the melee scab still not count as a enemy with gun for some reason

[night marten]

really?

[spiral kayak]

YEAH

counter fire dont work on those guy

[night marten]

it's easily one of the most common ranged units in the game

[livid wraith]

is that why that asshole will keep his gun out and not pull melee when you are kissing him..

[novel badge]

apparently it's because those gunners are considered "close range" gunners

[bleak tulip]

time to repost this because it never gets pinned

Breed Armour +Stagger Thresholds:
https://imgur.com/a/DqmYpV1//layout/grid
Breed Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PtPcw4m4YtO_IcEkFlJJOBVWCYDEIeCKJRYLT4SmLc0/htmlview#

[tame rampart]

Would you guys say purgatus or surge staff for malice and above or can either work?

[spiral kayak]

ah yes smol gun = not gun

even tho they still shred your toughness

[livid wraith]

Surge if you are chad. But purge and void can be used. Trauma requires a lot of work to be useful in any way imo.

[lethal plover]

All 4 staves, and mk 12 lasgun can clear damnation

[bleak tulip]

if by "can work" you mean you can muddle through it doesnt matter, but you can also argue the opposite extreme of "nothing but surge is optimal"

depends on what you understand as "can work"

[lethal plover]

I would even say comfortably clear

[novel badge]

surge works well if your team has good kill speed on hordes and specials already

voidstrike easier to carry with

[lethal plover]

I did clear damnation with me trauma and the other purgatus

He fried the trash while I sent them flying along with crushers and ragers

[remote tusk]

Any tips for pick n mix? Difficulty, map etc? It's the last one I need

[night marten]

<@&735928989146939404> can we have this pinned?

[bleak tulip]

maybe you have more luck

[night marten]

#psyker-class message

[tropic halo]

watching a psyker use only bb mostly in heresy is really painful

[crude cape]

i was excited for the premium shop to rotate today to see if any new cool psyker cosmetics were offered....
looks like the weekly store reset timer finished and just...dissapeared lol. They don't have a shop refresh?

[bleak tulip]

its a bad habit thats hard to break

it works well even in malice

like its s till slow but at least you kill shit more often than not

[tropic halo]

he probably was going for the penance

[lethal plover]

It works well even in damnation

[tropic halo]

he was doing it on mobs

[spare niche]

works in malice 😛

the penance

[bleak tulip]

[tiny wharf]

Keeping stacks up I'd bet.

[tropic halo]

these penances, man

they really do have to change.

[crude cape]

I only do this if its like, a couple stray mobs as we are moving and i want to just top off my stacks so they dont drop.
if he's headbursting regular mobs in a swarm on heresy or higher...jesus lol

[lethal plover]

BB all the backliners like dreg gunmen and bomber snipers all day every day

[flint sky]

[tropic halo]

he was

[opaque temple]

they definitely have less stagger resistance, ogryn punch knocks down flak ragers but not maniac ragers

[lethal plover]

BB is the ultimate anti backline

[echo parrot]

Force knife when

[crude cape]

whats the difference? flak ragers are the armored ones? you're saying the naked ones with the green tubes are worse? always thought they were the same, but flaks had armor = harder to kill

[flint sky]

A bolter does the job better

[tiny wharf]

You mean to tell me dealing 90% of the health pool of a beast of nurgle solo, with only brain burst, making your team sit around and jack off for 5 minutes and not so much as sneeze on it in a forced team game without any sort of solo option is not good design? Get the fuck out of here.

[flint sky]

as does the XII

[crude cape]

what makes the regular ragers worse than the armored ones?

[opaque temple]

much higher stagger/stun resistance.

harder to interupt

[lament glen]

Just as a heads up, I will pin pretty much any reasonable request you guys have

[crude cape]

ah, i have noticed this you basically can't push them. And dodging is iffy too, they still hit me when i dodge often

[lethal plover]

I'm literally playing XII as gun psyker and BB is still what I use when gunmen suppresses me

[lament glen]

I mean just look at the Ogryn and veteran pins. Those guys are wild

[lethal plover]

Just way faster and safer

[bleak tulip]

oh okay you must have not been online when this originally got posten back then

[flint sky]

I dont even know what to tell you. Literally playing shitty vet

[bleak tulip]

fair enough thank you

[flint sky]

play vet at that point lol

[tropic halo]

i should've went vet.

[lethal plover]

You can talk to @bleak sonnet

[tropic halo]

but nooo, lets try the special class...

[flint sky]

Hes flat wrong too

[lethal plover]

He believes gun psyker is best on damnation

[flint sky]

play it and enjoy it by all means

[tropic halo]

hey if they're beating damnation games

then it's fine.

[flint sky]

dont try to claim its anything more than shitty vet

[ornate hamlet]

The best way to play the game is to go into a coma for a year to play it when it’s done!

[long wharf]

might as well roll a vet

[flint sky]

sure man if you can clear its fine but we talking efficiencies here

[tropic halo]

listen, if they're doing that well with guns in damnation over our staffs, then it's the class that is at fault here

[echo parrot]

Gun staff is best staff. Ez damnation carry.

[pallid dock]

clearing is efficient. not clearing is inefficient.

[lethal plover]

What a gun psyker can do that vets can't: peril block, BB against suppression, BB to open up bulwarks

[flint sky]

play vet then get 50% ranged damage then

easier

[flint sky]

bolter opens bulwarks

[echo parrot]

Nah, gun psyker better. EZ mode.

[lethal plover]

Peril block is most important

[tropic halo]

peril block is probably good, yeah.

also we have the option to use guns for a reason

[flint sky]

peril block is great but its not strong enough to base the whole class on

[lethal plover]

You are now literally ogryn vet psyker, versatile in all

[livid wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/carrying-backpack-kid-humongous-bag-gif-16937814

Brainblast and gun psykers teammates

[velvet trail]

grenade opens bulwarks

[flint sky]

psyker is a collection of really cool ideas implemented shittily

[tropic halo]

in 40k psykers use guns all the time.

because well it's easier to shoot a bitch sometimes

[long wharf]

surge opens bulwarks also

[devout axle]

To remind me that they took shotguns away from Psykers.

[tiny wharf]

They also get captured and executed all the time

[pallid dock]

[class] is a collection of really cool ideas implemented shittily. ftfy

[tropic halo]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-blade-runner2049-defeat-sad-disappointed-gif-17817916

[flint sky]

At least other classes have build options

[lethal plover]

It is indeed easier to kill trash gunmen with XII

[velvet trail]

😄 i know but we're talking things vet cant do that we can

[tropic halo]

i dont doubt it

[echo parrot]

Just run a lasgun then you dont need a build.

[tropic halo]

ive seen many void psykers just be slow as shit and even miss often at those guys

[echo parrot]

Ez

[flint sky]

you cant see why that would be an issue in a game about classes and abilities?

[pallid dock]

psyker has build options, too. and other classes complain just as much over things they have, dont have, would like to have, should have, shouldn't have and fs just keeps from them because they are mean.

[lethal plover]

Nah, psyker meta is now the most interesting. All 4 staves and guns can clear damnation comfortably

I've tried them all

[summer wind]

dude i just downed an entire pizza

[tropic halo]

i still wanna see a trauma psyker do it, personally

[summer wind]

yeah same

[echo parrot]

Ogryn main identified

[flint sky]

I can clear damnation with nigh on any weapon in the game (except shredder autopistol) it doesnt make them good or interesting

[summer wind]

10" pizza

[tropic halo]

havent seen it myself. i saw one trauma psyker but the team died right away

[summer wind]

i might try it honestly

[tropic halo]

i mean go for it, experiment

[paper trail]

Just from looking at it?

[summer wind]

i'd need a premade or else i'd just feel so bad

[tropic halo]

yeah a mutant coughed in our direction

[echo parrot]

Psyker meta is running with a laspistol and a knife. Ez.

[lethal plover]

Before, it was "oh you're screwed if you use this on heresy+"
Now the goal post is "game is so easy anyway it doesn't matter"
If it clears, it doesn't matter

[flint sky]

las pistol is mid af

[echo parrot]

Skill issue

[flint sky]

no no nice misrepresentation, I said BB is useless on heresy plus

[summer wind]

there's something really funny about people playing psyker like a vet

[flint sky]

get your facts right

[long wharf]

rip your colon

[summer wind]

instead of just playing vet

[ebon jolt]

I feel like it’s harder to aim primary vs secondary. Maybe it’s the reduced movement in secondary but the projectile from primary can be wonky sometimes.

[lethal plover]

So useless I use it every second to delete backliners

I cry psyker tears

[tropic halo]

again, psykers can use guns for a reason. if they can keep up and win damnation games, it's the class that is the issue and needs rebalancing to keep up with it

[flint sky]

so can literally any other class, faster infact

[long wharf]

all projectile primary staff attacks seem to inherit the player velocity

[flint sky]

2 second charge for pitiful damage isnt worth

[summer wind]

psyker just straight up doesn't buff las guns where as vet does

[echo parrot]

Ok I am done baiting. I have seen some psykers be successful with a lasgun, but never an autogun. I use a surge + knife myself.

[flint sky]

no matter how much you reeee

[summer wind]

the second you put on a gun, you are a worse vet

not that it's bad, mind you

[lethal plover]

By pitiful damage, you mean oneshot

[echo parrot]

I used a recon lasgun for awhile before I got a decent void

[flint sky]

300 dps

trash tier

[paper trail]

autogun and devils claw is where its at

[summer wind]

i use force sword and staff because i clicked the space wizard class to play as a space wizard

[echo parrot]

And here I thought I was baiting lol

[lethal plover]

If the guys is dead, 800 or 900 doesn't matter

[tropic halo]

we're already worse than vets. again, if being a bootleg veteran is more viable and even more optimal than a psyker using a staff, the class needs to be loooked at as a whole

[spark gale]

Server down? :<

[flint sky]

congrats on taking 2 seconds to do the damage a las pistol can do in 1 shot

[summer wind]

yeah, fair

[hot tulip]

there are gunpsykers in damnation

thats cool, im sure it works

the problem is you are immediately creating more work and being less efficent for your team overall lol

[summer wind]

honestly though? i'd be cool with just some qol stuff for psyker

[echo parrot]

He admits laspistols superiority, you all saw it.

[paper trail]

I use the right weapons I just troll my team by being shit with those instead

[echo parrot]

Ok NOW I am done baiting

[summer wind]

make movespeed feat built in, make warp charges decay one at a time, and so on

[echo parrot]

lol

[summer wind]

stuff like that and i'm good

[flint sky]

to the worst unique ability in the game

yes

[ripe stone]

man, I -just- want the darn cliffhanger penance

[lethal plover]

I already use gun. Against suppression or enemies shooting from hard places I still switch to BB

[ripe stone]

every had dreyko i join is in progress

[flint sky]

2 seconds for a basic bitch las gunner

when vet presses F and clicks 10 in 5 seconds

[ripe stone]

or full of lasgun happy vets killing everything.

[hot tulip]

the REAL issue is that surge staff is basically the only thing keeping Psykers in true relevancy in heresy+

lel, shit class designing rn

[tropic halo]

that's exactly what im getting at here

[hot tulip]

buff staves

BUFF STAVES

[summer wind]

i use purge staff on damnnation, and it works fine

[echo parrot]

Do the espoinage mission with the "escape sequence" at the end. When you reach the long upward tube you run through its basically a hallway for you to round up the horde chasing you and then you just push them off of the edge where the railing is broken. Thats how I got it and it was SO easy.

[summer wind]

zealot can't flame forever where as you can

[flint sky]

You seem to think nothing should change because you find things barely adequate derelik, really weird position to hold

[summer wind]

pair that with blocking with peril and you suddenly have a lot of value

the ult is better than zealots, arguably ogryns

[long wharf]

blocking with peril has some caveats, apparently

[summer wind]

like on paper, with the right build, psyker is genuinely useful

[echo parrot]

Plus since everybody is running to the extraction you dont have to fight with people who kill or not herd. There is no herding needed. They run right to you.

[summer wind]

it's just way harder to be useful

[long wharf]

I discovered yesterday that occassionaly a bulwark will do a heavy attack that drains some of my stamina

[flint sky]

even when other classes out perform everything our class does

[paper trail]

wtf

[flint sky]

It is useful

[paper trail]

this has never happened to me before

[long wharf]

and a crusher once one-shot me (we were on damnation)

[flint sky]

it just has 0 variety or fun attached to its usefulness

[summer wind]

psyker could really use some help with the weaker stuff though

[summer wind]

i run purge, easily my favorite thing to do in darktide rn

[flint sky]

Ofc thats what I want

[night marten]

I still get anxiety on the authentication loading screen, Position in Queue: 1 haunted me for a few days

[summer wind]

turns hordes into a joke, and applies decent damage to other things

[lethal plover]

"my class has the best DPS in the game"
"Help I'm surrounded and dog is on me"
In damnation DPS doesn't matter as much as surviving a horde and clearing dogs trappers. The best damnation endless pub clear I had was with 2 ogryns, while the vet just goes down to a dog
All the DPS in the world doesn't matter when a dog is on you pfft

[river willow]

Psyker is fun, could use some buffs but probably mostly numbers buffs

[paper trail]

I didn't even know there was a queue

[summer wind]

yeah psyker really just needs number changes

[hot tulip]

oh yeah whoever is saying Psyker is fine just use gun

clearly is playing on malice or lower and doesn't know anything

[lethal plover]

I'd take ogryns over vets any day

[paper trail]

Is this a thing? I am position 1 in queue now....

[night marten]

give it a second. was a huge problem during the beta, some accounts were stuck in the first queue position for some reason so they could never login (server needs to tell your client current position is 0 before you reach character selection)

[lethal plover]

For reliable team mates

[summer wind]

i dunno, some people find it useful

[long wharf]

two ogryns and two psykers is a winning team

[summer wind]

i don't, i've never liked that psyker can take guns personally

[long wharf]

one void, one surge

[summer wind]

but some people like it

[tropic halo]

people really know how to play the game and can get away with it? i play heresy only

[river willow]

My current wishlist is mostly smooth out the damage stacking on the fire staff

[hot tulip]

I dont give a heretics ass what you use on Malice or lower. I really dont

When you Gunpsy in my pug damnation lobbies, im immediately leaving or throwing a votekick

[primal aurora]

does it work on bosses?

[hot tulip]

ANYTHING is literally viable in Malice or lower

[summer wind]

that's an asshole move, tbh

[long wharf]

FS needs to make the purge's attack be soulblaze damage

[summer wind]

i've seen gun psykers do good work on 4/5

[tropic halo]

agreed

[south monolith]

Oof, I hope we can replace all perks at some point

[river willow]

Yeah wtf dude that's terrible

[summer wind]

it's more the player than the build

[ripe stone]

the thing that's irritating for that, is that you can't choose the mission... for the last 2 days, every time that I have time to play, there's no espionage mission.

[lethal plover]

Clearly spoken like a person that doesn't know gunmen is biggest threat on damnation

[hot tulip]

no its not, im saving myself a future 20 minutes of my life when I personally play Surge Pskyer, and I see another gunpsyker in my team

He's literally sandbagging and we get overran easily

Happens 9/10 times

[spark gale]

Does suppression even work on staves? I kill hordes when up close but they don't run away

[flint sky]

You are so tiresome to talk to, its always a sidestep or deflection.

"In damnation DPS doesn't matter" fucking what lmao, the less uptime an elite has, the faster you clear that horde the less chance of taking damage and losing.

"while the vet just goes down to a dog" What kind of dogshit vets are you playing with?

"All the DPS in the world doesn't matter when a dog is on you pfft" It does matter when knocking that dog off with minimal damage though doesnt it

[night marten]

yes

[tranquil fiber]

This works on all but bosses.

[spark gale]

Does suppression only work on ranged enemies?

[hot tulip]

ill say it again

[summer wind]

think so

[spark gale]

mh

[echo parrot]

Well just play the game normally until you get the chance. I was bitching a lot about Out with a Bang and when I finally got it I was ecstatic

[spark gale]

kinda useless

[summer wind]

it's really nice

[flint sky]

Finally a good take

[hot tulip]

Gunpsyking in Damnnation = sandbagging

[summer wind]

what is sandbagging

[hot tulip]

Roll vet please

[tranquil fiber]

your name is your name... and its the truth

[river willow]

Toxic

[hot tulip]

it means when you are dead weight

[west galleon]

Ok i've decided... after asking in here and seeing some "peoples" reaction in here, i will never use a staff and only use guns and devilsclaw swords

[summer wind]

OH

[tropic halo]

👍

[summer wind]

MY GOD

HI BLADEFOX

[west galleon]

Screw anyone who thinks its not viable

[livid wraith]

sandbagging is technically used when you are purposefully throwing, not just deadweight.

[west galleon]

Seasons greetings

[summer wind]

i'm 99% sure i know you

[hot tulip]

alright do it, post on youtube, and watch as your average american citizen tries it and swarms damnation lobbies to lower everyones win ratio

[young summit]

damnit, first force sword in ages and it has the right blessing

[summer wind]

let me double check

[young summit]

but horrible damage 😦

[summer wind]

yes i do

[tropic halo]

the only time i feel a psyker's truly sandbagging is when they're doing BBs while surrounded in a horde and then they just keep doing that over and over.

[hot tulip]

its not for everyone, and it shoulnd't be done by everyone right now because psyker sucks ass on damnation

[summer wind]

me when no warp charges

[hot tulip]

Buff BB

[spark gale]

I got a suppression perk and it doesn't seem to do anything. Supposed to make enemies supressed if one dies within 7m of them

[hot tulip]

buff Staves

[summer wind]

seriously warp charges suck

[hot tulip]

Buff Psyker

[river willow]

Sounds like backpedaling to me

[hot tulip]

buff warp charges

[tranquil fiber]

You are a gun now.

[summer wind]

you'd think warp charges being hard to get would be an issue

[long wharf]

I mean, I guess this is okay

[summer wind]

but they just don't even matter lol

just ignore them

[tranquil fiber]

[sad warp sounds]

[west galleon]

Helping against difficulty inflation, one ruined lobby at a time, gotcha

[tropic halo]

i've been a lot happier when i switched from 4 percent to special cooldown reduction

[paper trail]

dear god no please no

[flint sky]

It doesnt, it has a place as a CC slave but thats about it.

[hot tulip]

i mean sure if you wanna contribute to the problem out of spite go for it my guy

[tranquil fiber]

seeeee!

[river willow]

If you think guns are bad on psyker why do you not want guns to be buffed

[echo parrot]

@ripe stone Sorry, dumb rabbit moment, Investigation, not Espionage. You want to gather them up at this part and then just push them off.

[hot tulip]

i aint stopping you im just a rando on the internet

[tranquil fiber]

It makes more sense having more cooldown!

[west galleon]

Im very spiteful because i RP as empire citizen all the time

[tranquil fiber]

especially with this Hi Intensity Condition]

[west galleon]

So very gut

[dawn orchid]

I'd be more ok with being a cc slave if I didn't have glass cannon hp and toughness

[night marten]

wait, are you still seeing it??

[tropic halo]

more specials, more "oh shit" buttons, more breathing room, you can use your staff more, you heal up your toughness faster, etc.

[hot tulip]

the point is that the class perks and setup/traits makes guns absolutely ass and not worth when gunplay is done on a more gun-based class

you know

veteran?

[paper trail]

Yeah I got it

[dawn orchid]

Seems like psyker is more just undertuned and being buoyed by the cc ability

[night marten]

you got in, or still in the queue?

[paper trail]

still in queue position 1

[echo parrot]

Mission is Hab Dreyko

[river willow]

So you think psyker shouldn't have guns at all

[ripe stone]

Ooohhh... gotcha

[night marten]

ah fuck

[hot tulip]

not only is psyker undertuned

it's core ability is mad garbage on later difficulties and everything else in general

[livid wraith]

Can't wait to argue about purge staff and brain blast again tomorrow boys. GN siblings.

[tropic halo]

that's pretty much what they been saying

[flint sky]

ding ding ding ding we have a winner

[hot tulip]

so i literally cry and die inside when i see gunpsykers in damnnation pugs

[west galleon]

I mean tbh i have yet to actually ruin a lobby with my build, but maybe im just playing at the wrong times

[summer wind]

honestly, hot take, psyker is doing a lot better than people think it is, and people, myself included, have convinced themselves it's bad

[night marten]

@paper trail go to the website and file a support ticket is my advice, they're pretty responsive

[tranquil fiber]

Someone please tell me how I stack up the charge blessing

[summer wind]

it could use some qol stuff, but it's doing alright

[flint sky]

300 dps

2700 hp enemies

[lethal plover]

Reliability is a measure that can't easily be seen. From my experience ogryn just survives against dogs and hordes better and picks everyone up. So can a psyker with peril block. As long as we live, we win.

[uncut hamlet]

Psykers are very protective of their staves

[night marten]

they've already fixed the issue before, they should know how to quickly take care of it again

[uncut hamlet]

Especially surge

[west galleon]

Psyker is the best, it doesnt need anything but brain burst and brainblast

The brainblast is for having ideas

[uncut hamlet]

Imply that you could possibly use surge and they will riot

[river willow]

Time to main gun psyker

[uncut hamlet]

Not use surge*

[tropic halo]

GUN wizards

[summer wind]

let us use MAGIC guns

[dawn orchid]

Agreed, that's part of what I mean. It's a super inconvenient ability to use and doesn't even scale with difficulty, or any of your weapon stats.

[river willow]

So now the real question: revolver vs rifle vs smg

[flint sky]

Grasping for esoteric reasons to hold the beliefs you cant backup with facts or IG experience. Ok.

[tropic halo]

I cast BULLET

[summer wind]

ah, my favorite spell

556

[west galleon]

What are 30+ year old american gun-nuts who are virgins?

[lethal plover]

Except I just told you my experience

[spark gale]

They disocvered my only weakness....

Bullets

[sinful mortar]

The Accatram would like to know you're location

[tropic halo]

dont forget 40k fans on top of that

[hot tulip]

if it works for you, more power to you

I'm just personally saying Psyker needs help overall to BE more relevant in Damnation over just taking a single staff called S U R G E, and that gunplay as a psyker is incredibly less efficient overall

And I personally don't like that, don't get me wrong. I WANT to use guns in damnnation but then its just like... why? Nothing we have truly synergizes with that, except the Ranged Damage reduction perk and the Kinetic flayer every 15 seconds

just

play

vet

[tranquil fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-magic-wizard-gif-13325853

[echo parrot]

People throwing around DPS numbers and such and only basing things on such raw numbers makes me think their Darktide gameplay looks like this.

[west galleon]

Shit am i just projecting my future rn

[tropic halo]

first time?

[summer wind]

ngl i use purge staff and i'm frequently the last one alive on my team

[tropic halo]

🤣

[summer wind]

and the damage is never the reason i die

[river willow]

I think the real buff to psyker guns is if they changed to reload animation so they use warp to reload

[lethal plover]

the video from before, is what reliable means

[summer wind]

not saying i'm good, just saying people queue higher too early

[tranquil fiber]

is that Windows XP? Office 97?

[summer wind]

psyker with peril blocking, my beloved

[echo parrot]

What are you talking about. Its Darktide.

[flint sky]

As if you cant extrapolate useful information from hard data

[tropic halo]

listen

[river willow]

Also give psyker the rumbler

[tranquil fiber]

[tropic halo]

if you cant play damnation with only staff melee, dont @ me

TRUE psyker shit

[hot tulip]

its super ironic when Psyker is labeled by devs to be that high damage single burst specalist clearer

When we don't even do that properly at heresy+ HELL BB DOESNT EVEN KILL in one usage lmao

[flint sky]

this could be literally any other class though

[lethal plover]

also this is why psykers are reliable

[river willow]

True psykers don't use swords or knives

[night marten]

have you seen the latest tweet

a little grating, considering they showcase a bulwark specifically

[hot tulip]

MALICE

[dawn orchid]

What is it?

[flint sky]

Again you dont do anything unique at all

[night marten]

and one-shot it

[hot tulip]

MALICE DIF or lower guaranteed

[lethal plover]

peril block

[tropic halo]

we dont even have the armors from the game cover... it's so depressing.

[tranquil fiber]

you practically have god mode in that clip loool

its not even fair

[night marten]

speaking from yesterday's experience, you're probably wasting your time here

[echo parrot]

Really wish there was a force knife type deal.

[tranquil fiber]

give me power fist...

[flint sky]

I know I am, hes as dense as an ogryn

[west galleon]

I dont disagree at all, just to be clear.
I just really like going against the grain and making it work yknow

[river willow]

What about warp throwing knives

[lethal plover]

another clutch moment with axe

[flint sky]

I just dont want other less experienced people to be fooled by him

[ornate hamlet]

Could be worse. The game could be incomplete, missing weapons, classes were changed right before launch without thinking about the implications of their talents, and the premium cosmetics are overpriced while also clipping

[echo parrot]

I love my knife, but I miss the force sword deflector and charge up sometimes, until I dodge and run around and feel like I am wearing lead shoes.

[tropic halo]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-blade-runner2049-defeat-sad-disappointed-gif-17817916

[lethal plover]

he blocked me because he got mad I said psyker had best solo potential

[flint sky]

Your team seems to be down an awful lot, maybe you should invest in better DPS so this doesnt happen

[ornate hamlet]

But yah otherwise this is the best 6/10 game I’ve ever played. Minute to minute gameplay is great

[crimson pond]

Dude I just read the newest news and I hope they make the kill 5 elites easier!!

[cyan echo]

Hm, just had a round where kinetic deflection didnt seem to be working? Ragers were hitting my stamina directly

[tranquil fiber]

6/10?

[lethal plover]

picks up team like an ogryn
BB sniper safely from afar
push instantly to remove dogs even behind walls
Best solo potential is psyker

[dawn orchid]

These seem less like you clutching and more just using peril block normally in not terribly threatening certain circumstances

[ornate hamlet]

I give it a 7/10
And remove a point for the devs lying about the launch state

[night marten]

game definitely gives me a solid rush, extremely entertaining. way better than 6/10 imo, close to 8. full feature implementation and generous amounts of polish would make it a near 10 for me

[tranquil fiber]

trueeeeeeeee

[dawn orchid]

Like, you would be 400% more useful to your team with a surge and not a lasgun

[tropic halo]

i noticed they removed the timer on the dlc outfits.

[tranquil fiber]

have they?!

[tropic halo]

i wonder if we;'re still gonna get new skins in a couple of days

[west galleon]

I dont rate games because i have trash taste and thats good

[tropic halo]

yeah, go check

[lethal plover]

this isn't about my skills
It's about psyker as a class that allows me to play on autopilot even without much skill

[hot tulip]

ya np lets just not spread the idea that gunpsyking is balanced and viable

It's legit vote-kickable/leavable and i would consider it a troll build rn lol so many headaches of having to literally cover for people that think they can do that, thats 20 minutes down the dr a i n

Until Psyker gets some mad buffs/changes, i'll reconsider my stance on gunpsykering in the future

[flint sky]

situationally useful and not unique to the class
any gun does the same
gun kills the dog too
lol no

[dry charm]

is the boss solo penance bugged in some way? is it still 100% and not 90?

[ornate hamlet]

Nah it’s 7/10 for sure. Anything above that is really generous based on the state of the game

[lethal plover]

well, enjoy malding while I keep chilling on damnation

[tranquil fiber]

loool they did

[ornate hamlet]

It’s live service though. It will improve

[tranquil fiber]

I was hoping something new

maybe because of all the complaints

they decided to hold off until new year for new shop stuff

[river willow]

Did you ever even try it

[carmine raptor]

I had a game last night with 2 vets and 2 surge psykers, it was incredibly smooth.

[tropic halo]

now they probably wont even put new outfits in there

[flint sky]

I clear just fine thanks, just dont want my preferred class languishing

[crimson pond]

Really? Interesting

[ornate hamlet]

This is a great game for fans of the genre. But I couldn’t recommend to anyone else

[night marten]

I'm a huge fan of the FS special, but I think people underestimate how dangerous it can be to use it since you're stunned while it's casting and other enemies can wreck you

[south monolith]

I feel attacked

[dawn orchid]

That's not really anything special in these videos

[foggy tangle]

why is everyone such a pissy baby here

[lethal plover]

peril block is very special

[tranquil fiber]

[west galleon]

Poopy baby is disgustling

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/melissabug-thinking-brain-science-confused-gif-26212921

[echo parrot]

[hot tulip]

alright buddy im sure your teammates in about 7/10 of your games are happy with you contributing minimal damage and everything else while they have to sweat to cover for a man down

[tropic halo]

its the 40k community?

[flint sky]

2 months of terrible or no changes to the class

[dawn orchid]

It is, but it's one of only two things the class actually has going for it.

The rest is pretty garbo

[lethal plover]

thanks, we may not agree on everything, but we can agree peril block is special

[tranquil fiber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVA69Tu331M

[dawn orchid]

Like, it's good. But it's not an autowin

[lethal plover]

it isn't, we're just versatile in horde and clutch. with anti-sniper and backline capabilities

[dawn orchid]

Doesn't let you cheese the game at high difficulty like bolters do

[hot tulip]

ugh bolters are so good

[lethal plover]

bolter's main weakness is that it's not used by a psyker

[spare niche]

[lethal plover]

who can be versatile for other roles

[dawn orchid]

Maybe in lower difficulties, but you can do that better on other classes, and easier, in higher difficulties

[lethal plover]

you mean peek behind cover, no aim and tracks even as they run away?

[night marten]

did you see this one? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2TIs1hMDV7U

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/orgasm-brock-lesnar-wwe-fireworks-boom-gif-13829696

[tranquil fiber]

I love that one.
Barry posted a new one yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkcer7wRCNQ

[lethal plover]

even when I use XII on psyker I still switch to BB when I am suppressed

[dawn orchid]

You mean takes forever to charge, gives you a ton of peril, slows you down a ton, and doesn't even 1 or 2 hit many elite units?

[spare niche]

this is class

voidstrike feats please?

[lethal plover]

it one hits all the squishy backline specials
trapper bomber dreg gunmen sniper

that's what it's designed for

[flint sky]

don't even try, hes immune to logic

[dawn orchid]

That's nice, meanwhile your teammates can just 1 tap elites in half your charge time

Or less

While also providing massively more team utility

Assuming of course, you aren't using surge

[lethal plover]

utility is what psyker does actually. Peril block, as you agree, is massive utility like an ogryn.

[dawn orchid]

It's not

[flint sky]

[dawn orchid]

It's survivability, for you.

[lethal plover]

and the team

[dawn orchid]

No

[lethal plover]

as I pick them up

[tranquil fiber]

[dawn orchid]

😭

Christ

[tranquil fiber]

in his own way, yes.

[flint sky]

admits his team dies all the time

[tranquil fiber]

but for everyone else, no.

[flint sky]

needs the safety net

[dawn orchid]

If you had a surge staff you could keep them from dying

[lethal plover]

even I die all the time

[flint sky]

point proven

[night marten]

just amazing

[hot tulip]

bruh even in his video, theres a man LITERALLY dead and needing to be rescued

[tranquil fiber]

to a fault but you can't carry bad!

[lethal plover]

who is here is so god that they never die?

[hot tulip]

if only he had a surge staff on damnnation lol

[flint sky]

I havent even been down in the last 10 missions

[tranquil fiber]

feels like his best one yet

[lethal plover]

surge? like this?

I use surge all the time too

[spare niche]

https://gfycat.com/TerribleInfantileAnteater

[flint sky]

because my team can DPS everything that can kill us

[spare niche]

and that

[night marten]

nearly spit out coffee

[dawn orchid]

Good, at least you aren't trolling your team all the time.

[lethal plover]

all 4 staves and mk 12 lasgun can comfortably clear damnation

[hot tulip]

working as intended

[lethal plover]

I see people just whine instead of actually trying things out

[hot tulip]

all hounds deserve complete and utter obliteration by any means

[dawn orchid]

I can comfortably clear damnation with the starter gear if my team carries me

[hot tulip]

we did

we literally do

And we found that gun builds are garbage and for some reason you are maybe trying to cover for it? idk

[flint sky]

Ive played it all, its just shit

amazing strawman

[hot tulip]

its like your straight up asking us if we play psyker lol

[lethal plover]

ok, then we can agree to disagree, I'll just keep chilling in damnation. I have given the perks, and you may disagree with them.

[tranquil fiber]

"Here's what I do; Kicking, Biting, Fighting and Property Theft" - About Orcs

[flint sky]

Has to win an argument type

[hot tulip]

man i feel bad for his teammates, all ill say

anyways

[dawn orchid]

Yeah no point to doing guns on psyker really. You're just a diet veteran.

[flint sky]

they seem to go down with the same regularity of him so

[lethal plover]

says the person who has to whine about psyker every time he goes into chat for like a month straight

[flint sky]

Not whining

[lethal plover]

without ever changing

[flint sky]

giving feedback

[dawn orchid]

"disagreeing with my opinions is whining"

"Me giving my opinions is feedback"

[echo parrot]

Are we having fun yet?

[spare niche]

i always am

[lethal plover]

you mean saying psyker is the shittiest class and other variations isn't whining?

[flint sky]

Is psyker buffed?

[spare niche]

i find this chat entertaining

https://tenor.com/view/bill-hader-eating-popcorn-keith-morrison-dateline-snl-gif-25666169

[tranquil fiber]

Anyone who doesn't agree with me is a Heretic

Pin this comment ^

[flint sky]

It is the overall weakest class yes

[tranquil fiber]

Psyker 101

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-war-hammer-40k-gif-15907237

[hearty burrow]

[flint sky]

that doesnt mean it isnt useful

[finite ravine]

So, if I was to start a psyker, I’d want to switch to a staff at some point? I was considering using a gun for light hordes.

[flint sky]

Play vet

[spare niche]

its no the shittest class at all LOL

well me being biased

[lethal plover]

now you understand the Peek experience

[spare niche]

but fuck it its great!

[lethal plover]

every day for a month, log into chat, psyker is worst, repeat

[tranquil fiber]

I just surge and ask questions later

[paper trail]

It wasn't the warp that got me after all it was the queue

[tranquil fiber]

some people purge and ask questions later

Psyker life is eaaasy

[flint sky]

If you really want to stick with psyker for now staffs in terms of usefulness go -
Surge
Void
Purge
everything else

[echo parrot]

I was literally about to type "Based on Peeks feedback you should just play vet" and he said it outright lol. I love it.

[spare niche]

all i do is CC the fuckers and then get on with my day

[devout axle]

I Trauma and ask questions while I'm doing it.

[paper trail]

kinky

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/why-whatever-gif-23592041

[finite ravine]

So, just keep to my default dude then, got it.

[spare niche]

when trauma is brought into a convo

[flint sky]

Feedback is further up throughout the channel, just giving a new player advice 🤭

[night marten]

at least it's fun to send a bulwark flying off their feet

[devout axle]

I will always bring Trauma into the convo. I've been Traumatized.

[lethal plover]

I just like to try out different configurations, and I am overjoyed that they all work very well, beyond my own prejudices
like 2 days ago I was shitting on trauma and guns, but now I actually like them

[tranquil fiber]

Emotional Damage

[echo parrot]

Try out psyker if you want, just know it doesnt start to shine for real until you hit 30 as BB falls off fast.

[lethal plover]

some people just want to stay on the same material for a month lol

[echo parrot]

Staffs are best as it stands. You can use a gun if you want, but it wont be the most effective.

[flint sky]

It doesnt shine beyond malice

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-storm-lightning-cloudy-gif-17607709

[flint sky]

good cc

[tranquil fiber]

yeah if its not for you, its not for you.
You can play with Staves, you can play for just brain burst and run + gun

[spare niche]

me as psyker

[gray island]

best more effective at killin

[flint sky]

not much else

[echo parrot]

And ignore Peek

Best advice

[flint sky]

furry

[echo parrot]

low hanging fruit

[finite ravine]

Funny enough, in one of the closed betas I ended up liking the Psyker more at the lower levels. Probably just because the Vet didn’t really have anything for maulers while the Psyker can just pop their heads off.

[lethal plover]

never stops being funny

[flint sky]

pick within reach

[gray island]

bruh, surge psyker is easy t5 runs. if you're having a hard time is a skill issue

[tranquil fiber]

yeah low levels 1-10 Psyker stands out, 10-25 everyone else comes alive... unless you Psyker and only play Malice and below

[flint sky]

No ones having a skill issue

[lethal plover]

bruh, surge psyker is easy t5 runs. if you're having a hard time is a skill issue

[echo parrot]

You can still pop their heads off, its just that you cant do it at the level you could in closed beta without lvl 30 3rd feat, and thats only when you use your ability.

[spare niche]

tbh i think people do

[night marten]

one-shotting big threats is a wonderful draw to the class early on.. but that changes quickly in higher difficulties

[echo parrot]

I use it often in oh shit everything is on fire moments.

[flint sky]

posts infinite vids of his whole team being down

[spare niche]

people cant do one thing with a staff then their like "NAH FAM, ITS SHIT VET IS BETTER"

and that is facts

[flint sky]

Na thats for gun psykers

[devout axle]

It's even funnier when the retards on your team see him going flying, and then forget he exists. Sometimes I feel like people in PuGs lack a sense of object permanence.

[lethal plover]

you are lucky it's even a 4-team
I only play on pubs nowadays

[bleak sonnet]

who cares if vet is better

[gray island]

lol?

[tranquil fiber]

well yeah its not really a dps class leveling up past 10-30

[bleak sonnet]

why are we sweating out an easy game

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-4k-caught-in4k-chungus-gif-19840038

[tranquil fiber]

oh damn

[bleak sonnet]

when t6 comes out it might matter

[flint sky]

Saying a class isnt fun =/= inability to clear

nice try tho

[tranquil fiber]

its more support from 10-25

[bleak sonnet]

fun is subjective tbh

[flint sky]

Its a support always

[bleak sonnet]

dont feel like that has an opinion in any argument

[tranquil fiber]

but thats fine, just don't get too head strong about BBing everything leveling up

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-man-drunk-carrying-a-horse-horse-off-my-back-gif-11913876

[flint sky]

past malice

[spare niche]

u sa psykers

we carry teams

lel

[tranquil fiber]

I leveled up with Surge and Void

and avoided BBing unless I had to

[lethal plover]

tell us why guns are good for damnation

[snow laurel]

is pick and mix bugged right now?

[spare niche]

CAUSE MERICA

[hot garnet]

nothing like a psyker at T5 that does nothing but BB... how to be useless in one easy step:
step 1. only use BB

[spare niche]

go on malice

ez clap

[snow laurel]

Just popped 6 elites and didnt get

[gray island]

you can get, just doesn't show progression. itss all or nothing

[spare niche]

was it 12 seconds?

:3

⏰

[echo parrot]

Id take a great player with a gun over a trash player with a staff that obsesses over meta any day.

[snow laurel]

yes....

[spare niche]

😦

[gray island]

gotta post the clip

[tranquil fiber]

[spare niche]

i did mine today so it shouldnt be bugged

[weak galleon]

were there any rumored/announced changes to psyker or to crafting yet?

[snow laurel]

Malice you say?

[spare niche]

crafting yes

[spare niche]

i did indeed

[snow laurel]

The penance says heresy+

[night marten]

trying with level 30 third feat?

[hearty burrow]

Next week, refine crafting

[spare niche]

trust me young one

[gray island]

crafting should get changes by end of month | apparently next week

[spare niche]

❤️

[echo parrot]

This is just reminding me of people who trash me for using a knife instead of a mk 5 axe or a FS.

[snow laurel]

yes

[spare niche]

yeah fuck ur knife shit bish

[night marten]

my advice is to open with a normal BB, ult to refresh, then get the other 4

[frail shuttle]

Mk 5 axe is trash so they don't get an opinion

[lethal plover]

actually one of the reason I started to dislike pre-made group with comms is when people start to complain about why I'm using this or that

[night marten]

kinda wish blessings were coming first, has a bigger impact on how you use a weapon

[gray island]

bleed psyker???

[weak galleon]

Thank you for the news siblings, back to VT2 it is then.
after 150 hours I cba to do shop grinding anymore.

[spare niche]

if you use right click with BB u can choose ur target before u blow them up

[flint sky]

[bleak sonnet]

delerik no offense but the one time i was in a premade comms group with you you were hard flaming a guy the entire round

[south monolith]

How it is worded, we only can reroll one stat.

[snow laurel]

Thats how im trying, and pretty sure I did it, the first 4 was nonstop and the last one like 2 secs after

[echo parrot]

Mostly just use it for the speed + dodge, makes it really easy to wrangle/herd a horde. But yes, mine can bleed on crits.

[bleak sonnet]

on your bolter vet

[gray island]

i was under the impression dueling sword was better for dodges

[lethal plover]

oh sorry... I have changed since then

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-4k-caught-in4k-chungus-gif-19840038

[night marten]

I don't really think there can be any delay

[lethal plover]

I used to care about balanced comp too

[night marten]

you have to hit them all near immediately

[lethal plover]

now I just play on pubs because I no longer care about comps

[gray island]

most balanced comp is 4 man psyker

[echo parrot]

I havent gotten one that is better yet. My dodge distance is +12.5 on my knife.

[spare niche]

all surge

4 man pysker surge team

best

[frail shuttle]

Once I got good enough to run Heresy with low level characters I never cared about comp. 3 plasma cannons and a flamethrower? Perfect!

[spare niche]

all with peril block

u aint dying

LOL

[bleak sonnet]

thatd be like a 40 min run man

no damage

[spare niche]

LOL

u wouldnt die tho

[pallid dock]

Imma be a stinker here and say that giving us the crafting system piecemeal is such an early access move, they really should've launched the game in EA.

[spare niche]

[night marten]

did a high-intensity heresy with two purge staffs and a trauma staff, still managed it

[weak galleon]

4 surge no damage?
4 surge will go through "breakpoints" on most hordes.

[echo parrot]

Distant howl

[spare niche]

stinker

[gray island]

get those 40 min consistent completions tho

[spare niche]

hey i got somethign for that

https://gfycat.com/TerribleInfantileAnteater

[bleak sonnet]

hey man if it works it works

[echo parrot]

yeet

[frail shuttle]

Level 3 zealot with the worst knife and pistol. Literally didn't consider health. Balance is for Damnation only

[south monolith]

IF we even get an update we only will 1/2 of the listed options at the shrine. That is likely how the game will be going into the new year.

Early access still in 2023, oof

[lethal plover]

that being said
void peril and trauma damage are still bugged and that makes me sad

[devout axle]

Calling something a "full release" and still have it missing core features is just a bad PR move in general.

[night marten]

just poorly set expectations

[lethal plover]

I want to see more people try out trauma's capability for control
its push AoE is way bigger than its damage AoE, and that helps with pushing dogs and bursters and knocking down crushers

[gray island]

DarkTide (Early Access)

[echo parrot]

It is a full release though, a full release into early access

[spare niche]

they are making a new crafting system?

[wise mesa]

immeasurely complex, please understand, fatshark small indie company.

[frail shuttle]

DarkTide (Coming soon)

[gray island]

allegedly they scrapped the crafting, yes

[lethal plover]

hot take but "immeasurably complex" was actually a correct thing to say despite the meme

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/nothingcoin-nada-keep-calm-keep-calm-and-do-nothing-fv7vr3-gif-21794700

[wise mesa]

they scraped the crafting system 2 years ago

[jovial frigate]

thanks emprah i guess

[wise mesa]

and it took them 2 years to get what we have now

let that sink in

[spare niche]

pretty good tbh

especially graphics wise

[night marten]

gun psyker build locked and loaded

[boreal sun]

PRAISE THE EMPHRAH

[south monolith]

IMO you don't get a free pass for reworking content like crafting if your new system encourages suffering to multiple layers of RNG.

[spare niche]

i need a new one

wish u could trade

[gray island]

melee the poxwalkers

[runic gate]

grats! gift or shop?

[devout belfry]

Yikes, new crafting sounds ass.

[spare niche]

have a grand exchange like runescape

[lethal plover]

still even without a full crafting system, people have already gotten endgame gear
maybe not the most perfect of perfect gear, but endgame all the same

[boreal sun]

shop

[frail shuttle]

If we could just reroll the shop it would be okay

[night marten]

blessings should have come first, not perks imo

[boreal sun]

yeah, reroll the shop with an increasing amount of money

[royal tulip]

anybody done the kamikaze penance yet and how? thing sucks

[gray island]

:((

[lethal plover]

this matters way more than crafting with hadron yeah

[south monolith]

Well based on what was released today you can only reroll one perk per item.

[devout belfry]

Does that mean we lock in the type of perk? Can we still increase the roll later?

[gray island]

just burn ur weekly tokens on the gacha

[frail shuttle]

"oops we stocked 7 weapons for the next hour, come back when we stock slightly better trash!"

[lethal plover]

I don't even care about tokens lol

[spare niche]

tbh idk if that is more for a balance thing
?

[night marten]

*more, not better

[lethal plover]

the refresh rate for melk's shop is so fucking slow it may as well not be there

[spare niche]

so u have to get one decent roll first then u have to work on the toher

[gray island]

i think its just you get to reroll a single perk slot as much as u want, still random tho

[spare niche]

shop should be 30 mins

not 1hour

:d

[lethal plover]

what am I gonna do with an orange laspistol in Melk's shop

[bleak sonnet]

buy it

[tiny wharf]

Shop should be re-rollable. fucking hate waiting

[bleak sonnet]

laspistol op

[devout belfry]

I just want to know if we can eventually increase a +2% to a +10% roll kinda thing.

[spare niche]

my idea was when the full crafting comes out. shop or another shop should hold base items and weapons. then u can upgrade how u want

[gray island]

i mean you could re-roll it in theory

[night marten]

they said you can with blessings, haven't heard of any upgrade mechanism with regards to perks

[paper trail]

I cannot read your name Delerik without hearing Derek Zoolander talking about his balls

[lethal plover]

can you share your gun build? just mk 12 or any big idea from it?

[bleak sonnet]

shoot enemy

[devout belfry]

I don't want to reroll and get the stat I want but a shitty percentage over and over. And what if the other perk rolled low?

[devout axle]

Been a few hours since I've reposted this. So yeah.
https://strawpoll.com/polls/kogjv36xvg6

[runic gate]

results?

[gray island]

the percentage would be randomized within its range

[spare niche]

surge winning

[pallid dock]

yes

[lethal plover]

I humbly request you vote for trauma to make it more fun

[devout axle]

Current results as of reposting

[shadow helm]

🤔

[runic gate]

VS gang gang

[lethal plover]

people are sleeping on trauma who offers a mix between void's horde-clearing and surge's control potential (it controls dogs, but not mutants, while sending crushers flying)

[tidal adder]

So the two new weapons

[frail shuttle]

Once people learn how to rapid fire the surge it's DPS doubles

[tidal adder]

I guess it aint gonna be a psyonic hammer that makes force shockwaves huh?

[frail shuttle]

No, we're not...

[tidal adder]

Probably ogryn weapons?

[gray island]

silly question, does the damage resist from bomber mean the fire doesn't insta melt all toughness or is it just HP oriented? seems bad either way but i hate fire

[tidal adder]

Man i cant wait when this game releases

[devout axle]

Fire damage will always break Toughness, no matter what.

[gray island]

sadge

[tidal adder]

Its gonna be so slightly better

[boreal sun]

is pick n mix broken

[south zephyr]

was pick n mix always 12 seconds? I thought it was 20

[lethal plover]

trauma also oneshots bursters on damnation. Instantly.

[gray island]

no just doesn't show progession

[boreal sun]

i literally headpopped 5 specialist

[faint sigil]

used to be ten

[frail shuttle]

50 peril

[lethal plover]

perfect for quietitude

[tiny wharf]

how is that even possible, im fairly certian BB cast is longer than 2s

[gray island]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-01-2016/mPi3ZL.gif

[hearty burrow]

Perfect for peril explosion

[lethal plover]

also no need to spam it. you use it when it matters, like a faster grenade

[tame locust]

It hath turneded around. (voted voidstrike ;D)

[faint sigil]

Kinetic Barrage feat

[silk flax]

First 400 Green I've ever seen. Only thing that lacks is the cloud radius. But it's a killer staff

[lethal plover]

void and surge are pretty much tied in practice

[frail shuttle]

Mathematically you get .5 seconds of window between headbursting. It's bad

[gray island]

SEND IT

[lethal plover]

though I have seen more surge on damnation

[frigid sparrow]

Right!? I'd run purge staff, but I can't generate enough quell enough with it. Gimme those phat stacks of peril, I wanna schizo into melee

[runic gate]

sprint is meh, hope you can get some good rolls, did you get that from store or as a gift

[silk flax]

store

[night marten]

I would kill for that staff, it's a godamn good roll

[gray island]

buy and upgrade to orange. then thank me later

[devout axle]

The first poll I did (Pre-"full release") was overwhelmingly Voidstrike for basically the entirety of it. It's nice to see more diversity this time around.

[tiny wharf]

hot damn that is a mighty fine roll. Shit perk though

[hot garnet]

leave it in the store cause its a purg staff and not worth your time

[silk flax]

haha. I will soon as I get some mats

[frigid sparrow]

What blessings would you want on the purge staff anyways?

[static epoch]

dozen or so games with purgatus now really trying out everything. i think it fits the middleground between void and surge nicely. there really is no "best" staff.

[silk flax]

yeah. But they are adding refining soon so not too worried

[static epoch]

it's all preference and role

[frigid sparrow]

The left click stagger is a great gap closer

[static epoch]

yeah it's mad

[lethal plover]

the only problem with quietitude, and I must be honest because I don't like hyperbole, is that it's good for a mixed scenario when you swap weapons
while if you're stuck in a perma melee scenario because the game got so hectic, generating peril is quite difficult by yourself. maybe force sword instead of axe? but then you can't clear horde with ragers mixed in so easily

[static epoch]

but i struggle with hitting barrels and seeing things lol

[gray island]

wish it was 380

[static epoch]

i sent our ogryn flying a handful of times 😄

[olive ember]

had a plague ogryn spawn on heresy, I thought we would just bring him out into the open so I backed up to take care of shooters, only to realize im playing with retards who rushed in and they complained that "I wasn't with them fighting the ogryn" when they died because the retards rushed in and immediately got knocked off the edge and got put into the hanging state

[frigid sparrow]

Yeah, I often struggle when I haven't generated peril in a hot minute and gotta make space to make some.

[olive ember]

and then they started blaming me for "not sticking with the team"

[gray island]

team communication, just dodge and FS block ogren

[devout axle]

The team that dies together cries together.

[young summit]

😅

[frigid sparrow]

You talking about that room with the catwalk in that industrial section? The one that spawns a bunch of pushers JUST for that trap?

[dim pier]

Also worth noting that fire barrel damage won't break toughness, just ignores it and goes straight to your health

[olive ember]

espionage right after near the med station

[frail shuttle]

Perfectly balanced.

[tropic halo]

Surge gang represent

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[lethal plover]

I always type in chat
"back off"
"avoid ledges"

[frigid sparrow]

Surge + Scab enemies is chefs kiss

[olive ember]

the plague ogryn spawn and instead of backing up and kiting it in the literal fucking giant circle, they dropped down into the stair case hell

[hot tulip]

SURGE OR BUST

[boreal sun]

i did it before my F wore off 😦

[olive ember]

with shooters and bulwarks still around

[frigid sparrow]

Armored gray spec ops making your day bad? Go one-shot em

[olive ember]

and its my fault because I thought they had enough brain cells to not drop down

[lethal plover]

yeah they'll learn

you gotta die to ledges in boss fights a few times to learn

[frigid sparrow]

Yellowboys in robes are hard to deal with, vet needs to shoot them.

[lethal plover]

ledge is the final boss

[olive ember]

and then they started blaming me and going "fucking psykers man"

like actual tards

[south zephyr]

would anyone care to form a group for Pick n Mix and other penances?

[gray island]

im pretty sure best strat is 1 BB before you hit F since time starts after first BB

[dim pier]

Fucking Psykers man literally holds W with no thought of positioning

[lethal plover]

not to mention that if a dog or mutant spawns in a boss fight and your team is too inexperienced to pay attention to them (just tunnel visioned onto the boss), you're gonna be thrown off ledges all the time

[timber fable]

I still need pick n mix so I'm in

[olive ember]

they were like "why were you 3 stories above" and im like " cuz I was dealing with the shooter squads above cuz I didn't think you retards would drop into staircase hell to fight the fucking PLAGUE OGRYN

[gray island]

i think having multiple psykers fight over getting pick n mix is gonna be a bad time

[hot garnet]

at least you werent the psyker in my damnation game who refused to use his purg staff and only did BB.... dude was useless af oh and he managed to blow himself up by spamming BB

[tiny wharf]

I usually just content myself with wave clearing on the boss since nobody ever breaks the boss tunnel vision long enough to realize there's a horde of 200 about to clap their cheeks.

[lethal plover]

hey, it's another perk of playing damnation
even team mates in pubs generally know what they are doing. more reliable

[south zephyr]

would take turns

would be very civil

psyker supposed to the "intellectual" right?

[vital bough]

HOLY SHIT man I've been trying to do Going Out With a Bang for like 4 days with random PUB groups and it's impossible between Vets insta killing any elite and Ogryn's shoving them away from me

[south zephyr]

welcome to hell

[olive ember]

wait did I say espionage

I meant investigation

[lethal plover]

go to lfg for penance king

[gray island]

and the fixed the surge so you can't insta explode either. sadge

[olive ember]

after the first scan objective of investigation

[devout axle]

This is actually how we did the Cliffhanger penance pre-requirement changes.

[lethal plover]

or say no to penance because that way lies slaanesh

[night marten]

#psyker-class message

[olive ember]

you know where the room opens up, and then you have to drop into staircase hell?

[faint sigil]

god i love the auspex song

[olive ember]

yeah thats where they decided to fight the plague ogryn, in staircase hell on investigation

[tiny wharf]

Fucking same man.
I make it very clear what I'm doing and specifically ask in both voice and text chat PLEASE DO NOT TO KILL THE 3 RAGERS I HAVE GROUPED
"Veteran has slain rager"
"Preacher has slain rager"
"Veteran has slain rager"

Every
Single
Fucking
time

[maiden maple]

how do i play psyker and not have an absolute worst time? im lvl 17 and its just godawful so far

[faint sigil]

i did that for a long time,, then got it by jumping into a malice horde with many shotgunners

[mint burrow]

What staff are you using?

[echo parrot]

Honestly Out with a Bang like Monstrum you kinda just have to go LFG for

[jovial frigate]

voidstrike + antax 5 axe

[hot tulip]

if you dont like using surge staff 95 percent of the time in Heresy+, jump ship now

[echo parrot]

Everything else can be gotten in pugs

[gray island]

Atrax 5 axe and void/surge staff

[olive ember]

ngl if they are trying to do a legit game I would just ignore you

[echo parrot]

I got my Out with a Bang in a pug, but via 100% luck and no communication.

[olive ember]

aint worth trying to fucking deal with keeping 3 ragers alive

[mint imp]

Yeah going after that achievment is stupid af

[vital bough]

Literally sit on staff and huddle behind your Ogryn.

At feat level 3, take Psychic Communion if you don't want to deal with keeping BB stacks up.

[tiny wharf]

It's malice. it can be solo'd. It's not like you have to sweat in there.

[olive ember]

if you want to actually set up for the achieve gotta get a premade or in LFG

[mint imp]

"heyoo go blast yourself" okay sure

[olive ember]

i mean yes but you have to realize the average player is a casual

[devout axle]

Psyker is like this. You either hate it, or you huff copium with the rest of us.

[lethal plover]

here king.
No skill involved to play well.

[olive ember]

I think only 1.6% of playerbase even has two characters to 30

i think going out with a bang is 0.8% or wte according to steam achieves

average player is casual af

[mint burrow]

I wonder how many people have the third hood in the community

[lethal plover]

when will new people realize psyker is actually the class with best solo potential

[hot tulip]

bruh you literally are getting covered by a psyker with lighting and F up every 5 seconds

[mint burrow]

That might be a good poll

[hot tulip]

he's doing your job

[ornate hamlet]

When the game officially comes out

[hot garnet]

on steam at least

[vital bough]

I just play the Soulfire build and burn everything around me.
That or I swap to Surge staff for CC if the team needs it.
But holy shit the Soulfire seems so strong.

[lethal plover]

later on the surge goes down and I have to clutch

[jovial frigate]

ah yes let us cc the same monsters at the same time

[hot tulip]

because you aren't contributing

[jovial frigate]

worse than slab ogryn

[hot tulip]

ur gunpsykering lol

on damnantion, if thats even damnation

[maiden maple]

that lightning bullshit one

[tacit fractal]

Surge

[lethal plover]

it is, just check the damage

[tacit fractal]

I hope we get a force weapon that has wide sweeps

[gray island]

try out truama staff its busted how good it is

[empty granite]

Does anyone understand how the +Max Stamina on Curios work? I've equipped 3 of the +3 Max Stamina ones and my stamina bars do not increase by 9, rather it's closer to 4-5 depending on weapon. Trying to jam stamina for a Heavy Laspistol build.

[lethal plover]

a fellow trauma enjoyer

[vital bough]

Surge is good for CC but it seems to me like the VoidStrike and the Purgatus staff can hit higher numbers

[south zephyr]

how're your shoulders/back feeling after carrying that hard?

[tropic halo]

oh 8 percent more ordos, how I hate you.

[mint burrow]

If you’re running purgatus, the only soulblaze talent you need is the lvl 30 one, which makes the build really good. The other soulblaze perks are underwhelming.

[devout axle]

Trauma-tized individuals.

[hot tulip]

if he had maybe idk, playing a class that better utilizes his gun and axe, maybe there wouldn't be too many mobs on screen lmao

[mint burrow]

Also idk if I like void or purgatus more

[gray island]

lets me look at more feet 🦶

[lethal plover]

I just played on auto pilot
I fear my skill actually worsens because the class is so easy

[hot tulip]

and posting vids falsely making gunpsyker look like an easy time on damnnation

[jovial frigate]

youre trying to justify 2 psykers spamming lightning on the same monsters is better than one actually killing while the other ccs

[hot tulip]

okay thats great but you cant just post a video and claim gunpsyker e z mode in damnnation when he's getting covered hard

cause its not easy

[tranquil fiber]

depends what difficulty

[jovial frigate]

he didnt say gunpsyker is ez mode wtf are u on

[lethal plover]

literally play more, and learn to melee with axe, then you know what I mean

[vital bough]

I only take Kinetic Overload on top of the lvl 30 perk, and that's mostly because of the Psychic Communion.
Psychic Communion gives you so many extra BB stacks when you're already at max, and you wind up getting it to proc like 30 times in a large horde on Heresy or higher

[mint burrow]

I feel like a good two Psyker combo is surge and purg

[jovial frigate]

hes just showing how good antax 5 is

[hot tulip]

he did

[tranquil fiber]

2 surges will lock down 12 mobs

but its slow af

and you have to coordinate your charges

[hot tulip]

"here king.
No skill involved to play well."

[gray island]

only thing better than 2 surges is 3 surges and a vet

[hot tulip]

like what??

[south zephyr]

So who wants in on some Pick n Mix (and other) Penances? I'll nominate myself as elite herder to begin with...

[tranquil fiber]

I just did a damnation with 3 surges and 1 vet

[jovial frigate]

are you seeing the word gun somewhere that im not

[tranquil fiber]

and we lost

cause when one went down

[lethal plover]

that person is stuck in a surge supremacy mindset
I was there too when I first landed in damnation, wanting to be top meta and consistent

[tranquil fiber]

they all fell down

[hot tulip]

dudes sandbagging hard and he's claiming its no skill on damnnation- bro look at the video and look at his kit and what hes doing

and look at what actually covers him lol

[jovial frigate]

all i saw was a guy using peril block and antax axe. those are both very good

[hot tulip]

oh look

[lethal plover]

I played just with surge when I just tried damnation. Then I realized I wasn't actually relying on surge as much as I would be, and other considerations come up, like killing gunmen

[gray island]

literally look at the bottom right corner of the video hes got a gun..?

[tranquil fiber]

tbh we failed mostly because the Vet kept going solo with his bolt gun

but 1 Surge 3 Zealots

[hot tulip]

????

[tranquil fiber]

Cake walk

[lethal plover]

will this person stop complaining when I'm the last person ?

[hot tulip]

Marmiox please dont die on this hill its not worth

[mint burrow]

That’s fair, however I feel like the other two options at lvl 25 are more beneficial imo. However, I’ve never tried overload before so it’s hard for me to comment on it.

[hot tulip]

psykers will get the buffs they deserve

[jovial frigate]

axe is good on psyker is a hill to die on?????????

[tacit fractal]

Multiple of us have seen Delerik post videos here where he kicks ass in damnation with the axe

[jovial frigate]

am i going retarded because the fuck lmao

[hot tulip]

you really dont get it at all, are you lost?

[tacit fractal]

No you're good

[lethal plover]

ok this is getting too heated

just back off

[tranquil fiber]

why do I never find rooms like this where everyone dies.... and im the last one alive

[tacit fractal]

We all should

[burnt python]

axe is psykers best melee option by a lot rn and im convinced most you of you hating havent even tried it

[tranquil fiber]

whenever two people die, someone quits and im the last one left with a bot

[gray island]

cause you aren't with ur team

[jovial frigate]

i definitely am because MY point i've made 10120321387210312890312 times in 5 minutes is that him showing how good peril block is + axe sweeps is free real estate on psyker

[gray island]

live with team, die with team

[hot tulip]

im calling him out because he posted a video saying Psyker is e z mode on damnnation when he's rocking a gun

its not e z no skill mode, look at his initial message

[tranquil fiber]

I'm always with the team, im basically dry humping any Zealot or Ogryn