psyker-class

[tranquil fiber]

damn

just picked up another Curio with 15% toughness regeneration

ive got that x3 now

Would we say +1 Wounds is a must for Psykers on Damnation?

[undone badge]

i have newfound appreciation for the duelling sword

[echo parrot]

Im good. People scream at me for using a knife too much.

Even though I run damnation with premades just fine

[ornate hamlet]

Where is our karking update information?

[severe laurel]

Do grimoires do a % health corruption or a set amount?

Because I'm trying to do a Malice and someone picked up a grimoire and I lost half my health

Maybe I'm spoiled by Ogryn

[timber fable]

so what melee weapons are people using?

the options seem to be the force sword, dueling sword or the atrox axe

[manic quarry]

i use the force sword since it allows quell

[teal cargo]

Im tryi g Axe rn

[manic quarry]

i honestly wish the staff could be my primary and I could equip a gun

[teal cargo]

The push attack is rral good

But I also have t found a good FS

[tropic halo]

a few run knife.

[teal cargo]

Dueling sword is nice for speedy

Idk why people pick up Grims

[livid wraith]

antax mk v axe is the new fotm. it's great on vet/psyk/zeal. you can use whatever melee your ranged doesn't cover though. I sometimes like using a catachan mk IV using surge if I want to switch it up.

[teal cargo]

they barely give anything but you lose half your health 💀

[old cave]

bc our dang quests require it

[tropic halo]

the funny part is that melk's barely worth it these days

[runic gate]

Weekly quests - sometimes you run out of rerolls

[teal cargo]

Oh yea true weeklies

[candid hawk]

Uhhh look what i just found rofl.

[lethal plover]

Try your best to reroll to scriptures at least

[runic gate]

I think this is known, but sometimes you run out of rolls.

[teal cargo]

Grims just bad cos you also get fewer downs

[lethal plover]

Grims are just biased against psykers due to absolute health

[teal cargo]

oh its flat health?

even worse then I had like one down with 2 grims

[tranquil fiber]

its expiring health

the more health you have the more time you have before it expires

[teal cargo]

expiring health?

[tranquil fiber]

Wounds is only good for how many revives you get per mission

[tropic halo]

https://tenor.com/view/deadbeat-at-dawn-switchblade-knife-stick-up-gif-21207396

[tranquil fiber]

So Grims corrode your health over time.

[teal cargo]

Oh?

[tranquil fiber]

it ticks down the moment you pick it up

[teal cargo]

until you die?

[tropic halo]

yeah

[echo parrot]

Give it to me

Now

[teal cargo]

💀

[echo parrot]

GIVE IT TO ME

[tropic halo]

grims turn heresy into one hit death for me

[teal cargo]

dang even worse

[primal aurora]

I think Grims corrode health waay too fast. Should be urging to go faster, not reduce health in span of one fight.

[round shuttle]

Yeah but it’s not linear health corruption. Use a med station and the grim will take about half of your health over 10 seconds, then tick down intermittently

[teal cargo]

I thought kt was like VT where you lose % max health

[loud ibex]

Guys what do we think to this?

[tranquil fiber]

so having more max health equates to less health you get capped with by Grims

[teal cargo]

Yep

[devout axle]

Y'know, Britain and France haven't had a war in a while.

[teal cargo]

When theres 2 grims im like boit to keel over in 1 down

[tranquil fiber]

I think its stats are too low to consider

[severe laurel]

So we pretty much must stack +health curios

[tropic halo]

it's decent? but using up all your coins for it is a bit of a waste

[tranquil fiber]

the blessings are good but imho too expensive for just blessings

[livid wraith]

mobility roll is low. the whole benefit of dueling sword is the insane dodge.

[tranquil fiber]

324 rating is too low.

[severe laurel]

I don't get what the psyker gets in return, I don't feel like a damage powerhouse on a mission, literally the only benefit seems to be not bothering about ammunition. For that, the Psyker pays 50 health, has a chance to explode if you take your eye off the ball.

[teal cargo]

I use + Wounds

[loud ibex]

thanks guys

[teal cargo]

We get very good blocking and cc

But dmg and just hp is poor

[loud ibex]

should i be going for 350+ on stats really?

[severe laurel]

Is that later in the tree because at 15 I feel like a glass water pistol

Or is that something I've missed?

[teal cargo]

yea at lvl 20 I think

Kinetic Deflection

[tropic halo]

i run one wound and the rest are toughness. i want my curios to have the combat ability regen so all together they can reduce mines by ten percent. here's wishing.

[teal cargo]

and Surge staff for cc

[tranquil fiber]

If you don't have the weapon or want to start 340-350 base is okay.

Items you want to craft to their best forms need to be 360-380 rating on the stats ( not overall rating )

[severe laurel]

And this sword buff everyone wants that lets block deflect bullets?

[teal cargo]

Basically you just stun elites and specials and call them out to team

thats Deflection FS

[loud ibex]

cheers

[severe laurel]

Seems bad game design when you must have a weapon to be effective

[teal cargo]

but not needed, since blocking bullets will take a ton of peril

[livid wraith]

base roll max is 380 (400?) right now. max rolls for stats are 80. you can get a low rating but if the stat doesn't matter for what you want then it doesn't matter. If you don't know what stats are 'dead' then just try to get as close to 80 on each stat if you want the best possible version.

[teal cargo]

You can use Antax mk5 axe instead and spam push attacks

[tranquil fiber]

I run health because grunts on Heresy and Damnation only require 4-5 shots to destroy 100 toughness.

[teal cargo]

usually this means you run outta stamina and die

but with Kinetic deflection you can block forever

[severe laurel]

As I say, the entire class just feels very underpowered compared to my ogryn

[teal cargo]

and push attack kill everything

We have better blocks than Ogryns

[severe laurel]

Is that the block push?

[runic gate]

based

[severe laurel]

Or the F push?

[teal cargo]

yea block push attack on axe

[tropic halo]

that's a few shots that dont go straight to your health already though

[tranquil fiber]

Ogryns are just tanky but Psykers are glass cannons

[teal cargo]

spam that with Kinetic deflect

[tranquil fiber]

very true very true

[tropic halo]

when i run my toughness curios, i keep my health more often than before in heresy

[tranquil fiber]

I think just having 100 base health scares me

[teal cargo]

But yea at high difficulties Psyker is best at just support

[tranquil fiber]

Snipers bypass toughness right?

[teal cargo]

over killing

[tropic halo]

100 health with people collecting grims... shudders

[tranquil fiber]

this is why I stack health!!

never again

[tropic halo]

i dont think they bypass toughness, they just hit really really fucking hard

[teal cargo]

Rapier too also has some real good blocks and being able to dance around

[tranquil fiber]

[runic gate]

gun psyker master race

[tropic halo]

but with snipers you just gotta dodge them. no point in damage reduction. you just cant absolutely get hit

[tranquil fiber]

this is a class act of baseline playing the game

[primal aurora]

Personally I run with Void staff even at Heresy. Somewhat decent horde clearer or at least staller, staggers specials, can kill snipers with few shots or triggered BB from perk.

[tranquil fiber]

great video

[teal cargo]

Void is nice

But is bugged and prob soon to be nerfed

well maybe not soon

but will be fixed eventually 💀

[tropic halo]

there's a bug?

[tranquil fiber]

I do like Void, the more you charge the more it pierces

[teal cargo]

the charge attack gives too littlw peril

[tranquil fiber]

great for long maps

[teal cargo]

which acknowledged as bug

[tranquil fiber]

there will be some maps where certain staves shine more on

[livid wraith]

when they fix peril drain on regular melee weapons this won't work permanently like this. It will still probably be good for clutch revives but you won't be able to hold block and god mode walk with no peril gained.

[teal cargo]

cos somebody reported it to Fat Shark oof

[tranquil fiber]

Like the Refuel level is really good, for the Purge staff

[teal cargo]

really is that a bug too?

[bitter abyss]

yeah CC wise, Psyker feels ok. But on 4/5, our ability to play as backline and meaningfully perform damage/assassination of elites is noticeably lacking compared to Veteran overall, and needs tuning.

[runic gate]

Question, why did the first res fail?? Did you release E too early? Is this really damnation because 3 elites in a minute and 20 seconds during an event seems really low. Horde seems thin.

[teal cargo]

Veteran kinda just op and need nerfing

[bitter abyss]

i'd rather raise other classes up to them, versus nerfing them and leaving Psyker in the dust personally.

#powerfantasy and all

[teal cargo]

Leads to power creep tyough

[lethal plover]

It didn't. he revived. he just died again

classic vet

[tranquil fiber]

Veteran is in a good spot but unsure they will buff everyone else

[lethal plover]

and yes it's damnation

[bitter abyss]

it just shouldn't take 3+ brainbursts to cause death to an elite imo. It's literally exploding their brain...

[livid wraith]

He is using a perk that allows blocking with peril instead of stamina. You automatically block while reviving as well. Melee weapons that aren't force sword currently drain peril faster than you can gain peril by blocking.

[tranquil fiber]

more likely they will nerf then increase the difficulty

[tropic halo]

if they keep nerfing shit constantly after the butcherign they did to the psyker during the open beta i may just finally stop playing

[tranquil fiber]

then buff where accordingly for the new difficulty scale

[teal cargo]

Yea I thought peril draining fast is intended

Its what makes the perk mucho good

[undone quiver]

Is surge staff good lategame

It feels great at malice

[tranquil fiber]

a Psyker melee build would be interesting

[teal cargo]

and a reason to use non FS weapons

[bitter abyss]

it's potent, but the damage is lacking in 4/5. The CC is very valuable though

[lethal plover]

Would be? That's half my games these days

[teal cargo]

because you can block melee hits forever but cant block bullets

[livid wraith]

I highly doubt they intended to give psyker permanent block capabilities. The reason to not use force sword is because the attack pattern is clunky as hell for hording, the charge attack is clunky too.

[tropic halo]

yep

[runic gate]

omg he had 3 wound too lol

[round shuttle]

I care about my team too much to give up surge’s ability to stun almost anything

[tranquil fiber]

well if this peril thing stays around, I might as well give it ago and have fun with it

[undone quiver]

It's p fun

[potent echo]

ppl need to remember to hold block when standing up

[tranquil fiber]

show me 360+ rapier

[teal cargo]

VT2 you had a few classes capable of perma block and it was

fineish

[round shuttle]

It does it automatically now I think

[tranquil fiber]

[tropic halo]

the force sword has the deflector perk and a special killing ability and unlimited dodges. unlimited dodges.

[potent echo]

nah i meant after you stand up you gotta be holding block or you will go down instantly again

[teal cargo]

Like Handmaiden with a shield could block bullets and 90% BCR

[undone quiver]

Yeah, that's prolly fine? Use it mostly for cc anyway and let the team clean up

[tranquil fiber]

Also, when the hell does loadouts come out?

[tropic halo]

and a force push that easily handles mobs and specials

[tranquil fiber]

make it client sided and call it a day

[rapid cliff]

I like that I try to craft weapons and they usually turn out shit but the reward at the end of games gives me a 470 axe with insane stats

[undone quiver]

Ooooh this is good to know

[rapid cliff]

like uwt

[round shuttle]

Oh understood, you are very correct

[tranquil fiber]

I need builds variety fat shark!

[tropic halo]

if using a non-force weapon helps my peril passively drain faster, then it's a small benefit in comparison to what force sword users have

[rapid cliff]

fat shark is run by one big fat shark

[potent echo]

duelling sword technically has infinite dodges

[teal cargo]

One of the equivalent of Psyker classes in VT2 actually quelled peril to block 😆

[tranquil fiber]

https://giphy.com/gifs/smile-hello-shark-PfHrNe1cSKAjC

[potent echo]

somehow the dodge decay is real slow

[teal cargo]

Dueling sword you dodge a pretty long way

[tropic halo]

the weapons screen shows force sword with literal unlimited dodges though

[bitter abyss]

that Nemo skin gonna cost you 2401 Aquilas in store. Thanks. 🙂

[tropic halo]

just that alone is like, why? why did it get that too?

[potent echo]

yea it does and it is really unlimited

you can kite the world with deflector and peril block

literally untouchable

[tropic halo]

yeah, it's kinda real tempting at times

[tranquil fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-tale-lenny-sharks-dancing-dancing-sharks-gif-18507167

I'll take the L

[potent echo]

any objectives that require someone to press a button, send the psyker

[subtle monolith]

Is psyker really that bad?

[potent echo]

yes its the worst class

[subtle monolith]

Everywhere I look everyone complains

[potent echo]

should be removed from the game imo

[tranquil fiber]

its a 180 degree shield right or is it 360?

[bitter abyss]

They should just remove the alternate attack with staves as some weird melee, and change each staff type to do something else with their alternate, like Surge can have a high damage single target attack, Void can do a void laser pulse thing, purgatus can do a force push fire cone/stagger, and trauma can do something cool. idk, but the staves in all in all need more imo.

[tropic halo]

no. go all together. the guy who runs off to push something by themselves usually gets mobbed up

[tulip rover]

I Enjoy the Psyker alot, i just hate the challenges

[potent echo]

feels like 180

[tranquil fiber]

if its more than 180 im gonna start calling it the Magneto build

[potent echo]

i did block something from behind me once though

[tranquil fiber]

[spring nest]

pretty sure its 360

[tranquil fiber]

lmfao

[potent echo]

block is just really bad behind you

[spring nest]

heard it a few times

[tranquil fiber]

time to start speed running Psyker

[teal cargo]

Block is 360

[tranquil fiber]

i mean this is a good way to get that block 800 damage achievement

[potent echo]

you get quite alot more peril/stamdrain if you block something behind

[teal cargo]

takes more stamina behind you

[potent echo]

so effectively its 180

360 in a pinch

[teal cargo]

Based on camera angle so while reviving you can look behind you

[potent echo]

wait for real? lmao

[teal cargo]

yes just like vermintide

[bitter abyss]

i shouldn't need a sword with a special perk to block ranged imo.

[tranquil fiber]

yeah

[spring nest]

it would be cool if psykers block looked like that

[tranquil fiber]

what you want is the game BulletStorm

[shell radish]

but then they would be heretics

[tranquil fiber]

or TitanFall

[tropic halo]

the open beta test psyker was really really bad. current one, the main issues with the psyker is the penances and just how ultimately everything we do, another class can do better outside of maybe CC, and that's only with the surge staff. if we run a force sword build with deflector and peril block, we're a good tank and reviver like an ogryn with a shield is, but other than that, we're a jack of all trades it seems like. master of nearly nothing.

[spring nest]

yeah exactly like that would be awesome

[potent echo]

helped my zealot friend do his 20min speedrun penance, 2 surge staff psykers on heresy and 1 vet ez games

[bitter abyss]

1 build should be a weird alt tank, but we're meant to be backline, and thus should be a damage monster imo

[spring nest]

also bb on higher diffs is awful

[bitter abyss]

it's Brain Tickle at higher levels

[tropic halo]

oh yeah our entire class is built around a function that doesnt scale with the difficulty of the game

[spring nest]

ong lol

[severe laurel]

Seems somewhat shortsighted...

[tropic halo]

in the final trait tree most builds only have one option in there and that's the quicker bb trait from special

[spring nest]

i can deal with all the other problems but it literally makes us obselete in higher diffs

[tropic halo]

well, we can still hang

[bitter abyss]

brain burst should do it's current with peril as normal left click quick cast. Charge up cast should scale to massive dmg, and with perk be aoe BB to multiples.

[tropic halo]

but i don't think we're anybody's first pick in a team

[potent echo]

yea if you are playing psyker in malice you are trolling, go play a vet instead

[tropic halo]

noo, psyker in malice's fine. i play heresy only nowadays

but yeah you gotta work for it some

[undone quiver]

I mean, idk, malice seems generally pretty fine

[shell radish]

you can play anything in malice lol

[primal aurora]

Wat? Psyker is perfectly fine on malice.

[undone quiver]

That's where over been, feels like pretty much anything can carry

[spring nest]

i wish psyker could brain burst multiple at a time

[flint plover]

i mean, i think it's 100% okay that BB doesn't one-shot most things in damnation or heresy. that would make things so ridiculously easy

[undone quiver]

Just don't be bad

[spare niche]

wait he just say that?

psyker is mega on malice

[shell radish]

I feel squishy on heresy but with the CC staff it's pretty impactful

[potent echo]

no brain burst needs to insta kill all elites and charge in 0.1 seconds, if not the class isnt viable

[spring nest]

a lvl30 psyker on malice is insanity

[subtle monolith]

how many time

my fucking game will crash

[livid wraith]

Psyker is legit tuned to feel like a god in malice and below. As soon as you hit heresy and damnation brainburst becomes much more irrelevant and it becomes what can you do with your staff.

[spare niche]

i just did a heresy and it was not hard lol

surge and FS

[tropic halo]

until morale improves

[spring nest]

or half the brain burst time

[tropic halo]

🤣

[bitter abyss]

i think it costing like 4-6bb to nuke an elite is the problem, and that's all dedicated to 1 target. On 4/5 you get whole packs+spam which makes it utterly painful to do.

[flint plover]

brainburst still deals good chunks of damage to enemies you can barely see or out of line of sight

[spare niche]

if u dont BB the higher tier elites ur team are gonna get swarmed

[past patio]

bb should at least be constant dmg ticks increasing with peril until stopped or target dies

[shell radish]

fae if you cant play psyker in malice

might be a skill issue

[flint plover]

then you just adapt.

[spare niche]

skill issue

LOL

[spring nest]

its soooo long to bb an enemy

[bold flint]

just lower brain burst peril and increase charge speed

[bitter abyss]

psyker issue

tbh

[spare niche]

i hardly use my staff in malice ahahah

[tropic halo]

you're talking to the wrong person, it was the other guy who said that

[spare niche]

i just swing my sword

[flint plover]

it's almost like the class isn't exactly centered around BB

[spring nest]

increase charge increase peril

[frozen cloud]

the fix to the surge staff makes it so much better

[shell radish]

oh sorry

[lean crystal]

Worst thing about playing Psyker for me is that other players LOVE to kill my BB targets so the ability feels kinda... Eh.

[tropic halo]

... it kinda is though? i mean, you seen the trait tree, my man?

[spare niche]

its almost like the class is centred around your positioning

[flint plover]

pick targets that your team can't actually reach

[frozen cloud]

I can now safely launch at surge attack at 95% peril so long as its a quick one

[bold flint]

just charge it without a target and pop when youre ready

[subtle monolith]

what to do to prevent this crashes

[shell radish]

who cares, its dead

[bitter abyss]

don't aim for pox, and the first elite in proximity to your team, and that happens far less. 😛

[subtle monolith]

it just too much

[undone quiver]

I think BB is a trap tbh

[dusky lantern]

ur trolling if you aint taking 3rd perk on lvl 30 feat for psyker for heresy-damnation (unless ur purg psyker)

[spring nest]

brain burst time should actually scale to what enemy your trying to kill like being instant with grunts and taking a long time with elites but always being insta kill

[solar flint]

there's a good chance that unreachable target is part of another group, which will aggro them onto the team prematurely

[lean crystal]

When doing that, Peril should stop ticking up when the bar is full. Or maybe 10% after, I dunno

[shell radish]

Intellegent list standby cleaner fixed my memory leak problem, made the game a lot more stable

[subtle monolith]

Is it a program?

[shell radish]

turn off raytracing

yeah

[livid wraith]

I mean BB has it's place in damnation, but if your veteran isn't braindead then it's usefulness goes down. Then it becomes more how can you enable your vet to carry.

[tropic halo]

we're the heal slut of this game

[flint plover]

you get a lot of benefits from using BB, but I don't actually see how the entire class is shaped around BB?

[shell radish]

its centered around warp charges

[undone quiver]

Psyker on 1-3 feels like you should be optimizing BB

[flint plover]

exactly

[shell radish]

for the dps boost

[bitter abyss]

lol make psyker give heals. instant 4 man psyker death trooper squad damnation premades inbound.

[lean crystal]

Too many Vets Bolter-ing them. They seem to see the blue glow as a target

[shell radish]

thats fine though

[flint plover]

and warp charges get generated so ridiculously easily

[undone quiver]

So, when you get to 4 and it just.... stops.... it's kinda like "wait what do"

Try playing without BB for a while

There's a lot going on without it

[past patio]

the only way to get warp charges and be sustainable is through brain burst, outside of the perk

[shell radish]

I mean you can still bb gunners/snipers/grenadiers in 1 but yeah it should scale

[lean crystal]

Yeah I largely abandoned BB on my last run and it was way better

[tropic halo]

the traits, soulblaze is useless atm and there's certain things that are essential and the only option to get rather than having real choices. they clearly designed a lot of the options around BB. we got around them as players, but still.

[flint plover]

i'm gonna be really blunt with you mate. if your team kills an elite faster than you, that's a you problem.

[undone quiver]

It just feels like diff 1-3 signal that you should be using BB a lot, whereas it stops doing that on 4-5

[shell radish]

feels awful to multi bb dogs

[spare niche]

there is but i guarantee it will either take more time to kill the bigger elites when ur other teams cant aim

[flint plover]

don't try to kill elites your team has a handle on. then you'll be useful

[lean crystal]

It's not like I can make BB charge faster, what exactly do you want me to do? Share your wisdom, please

[bitter abyss]

warp charges should exponential scale, not linier scale imo. 3/4/5/6 or with warp battery make it 4/5/6/7/8/9 make it really worth it as an option for more dmg.

[shell radish]

the damage on bb is still good for bigger targets though, you can toss a bb or two at it to help

[spare niche]

if i see my team handling elites fine i just focus on stunning the elites so they can kill them easier

[past patio]

so if I see my team struggling with a bulwark, don't do shit?

[tropic halo]

no it isn't there, my man. you ever seen a veteran murder two crushers in a second with their bolter? i cant match that dps.

[spare niche]

support at heart ❤️

[flint plover]

focus on elites your team can't see. behind, to the sides. listen for specials. use your staff liberally. learn melee so you can survive.

[shell radish]

yeah but bolter ammo

[sly thunder]

Multi charge BB vs Bolter Spam, who would win? :^)

[shell radish]

the bolter is kind of a noobtrap imo

[subtle monolith]

the funny thing is

that I dont have the config file

In fatshark folder

[flint plover]

then stop going for the bulwark or crusher! blow them up if you need to, otherwise yeah, ignore them and keep the team safe from stuff around them

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/doug-maclean-doug-maclean-nhl-hockey-gif-26096168

[subtle monolith]

Like at all

[bitter abyss]

bolter powersword combos just handle actually nuking elites, and mob spam though. Psyker takes 3-6x the time to actually kill as many things.

[hasty wolf]

oh my god no

[spare niche]

verify integrity?

[flint plover]

maybe do 2 or 3 headpops on the crusher if you have the chance? but that's not your job if you can avoid it

[hasty wolf]

please

not

THE GOAT

[tropic halo]

sometimes they are the biggest threat and your team isn't doing what they need to be doing or can't be doing because they got caught up already.

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-black-guy-gif-17915341

[lean crystal]

I know how to melee, I main Ogryn, but thanks for the super condescending response. V cool.

[flint plover]

i mean, then you answered your own question. if your team cant handle the elite, then sure, kill it. why not?

[livid wraith]

right but then the argument is, "Oh I can brainblast the ogryns because thats what my team cant kill" when in fact if you had CC'd the bulwark and crusher your vet will kill it faster than you can get halfway done with your brainblast.

[flint plover]

but if they are killing crushers in 2 seconds please stop even trying, you're qasting time

[spare niche]

i just feel people have skill issues thats all. i dont struggle really much at all

get gud kid

[shell radish]

I mean just kill it then lol

[flint plover]

you basically just described a psyker being incredibly useful to the team

[shell radish]

you do good damage

[lean crystal]

I may just join the Vet crowd. Power sword and bolter go brrr

[tropic halo]

i didn't have a question. i was pointing out how bb doesn't scale well with difficulty. and how the class's traits are built around them, and then why psyker is a bit of a weaker class for it and on the lower end of the totem pole. that was the topic.

[shell radish]

vet rots your brain

[round shuttle]

Dealing with dog/flamers from behind seems to be psyker’s job a lot of the time and we’re pretty good at it. Mutie is a stun and ping for attention situation though

[tropic halo]

because somerbody asked why psyker's so bad since everybody complains about psykers

[sly thunder]

It's not a skill issue. I can play Psyker and enjoy it and do well. It is just we have to work our asses off to be like 1/3rd as useful as a Vet

[livid wraith]

Right, thats my point. people want to use BB in the middle of a fight and its like, no, BB is incredibly situational to use and you probably shouldnt be casting it much if at all.

[lean crystal]

Yeah, Dogs are my main BB target these days

[flint plover]

was just listing stuff mate. i meant no condescension. i assume most people don't know all the things about the game.

[subtle monolith]

the passive tho is shit

4% damage boost

[brazen magnet]

high peril with 6 stacks = 39% extra dmg

[spare niche]

nothing beats this though. when u make dogs go flying https://gfycat.com/TerribleInfantileAnteater

[flint plover]

my whole point is that BB doesn't scale for a reason. You have a ton of other tools, BB isn't the only one

[lean crystal]

I dunno why they don't have BB do its damage over time with the bar filling up or something

[brazen magnet]

which means one shot certain elites and specials on damnation

[flint plover]

risk/reward

[brazen magnet]

which is extremely good

[sly thunder]

Then why is 80% of the feat options based around BB? :)

[livid wraith]

I cast BB probably 3-4 times a match and its usually bombers because those are lower threat priority for the vet at certain times.

[past patio]

warp charges are centered around brain burst

[bitter abyss]

would be nice to have a scoreboard to quanitify how much damage classes are doing, stuns/staggers are going out etc, elites classes are popping. I'd wager FS has this info and will balence more according to class performance per expectations of class role, but players not having any real info makes a ton of theory crafting based off perceptions and feelings versus having any quantifiable data to help justify choices and class feel.

[flint plover]

80?

[shell radish]

its centered around warp charges lmao

[empty granite]

That's a LOT of upkeep for that extra damage

[brazen magnet]

how is that alot

[shell radish]

you know you can get them in other ways right? 🙂

[brazen magnet]

with the 4% on kill chance

[subtle monolith]

did not help

[brazen magnet]

on heresy damnation with hordes

its easy

[subtle monolith]

like at all

[lean crystal]

Tbf this does proc surprisingly often

[flint plover]

i see four feats that specify BB, and the rest just specify warp charges

[round shuttle]

BB is good for bombers, sometimes snipers, and I like to use it on monstrosities so I don’t have to get close

[spare niche]

😦

[subtle monolith]

where the fuck is my config file dude

why my game is even working

where does the game actually gets my settings

[shell radish]

in appdata -> fatshark

[lean crystal]

You must have one, lol. Are you looking in Local or Roaming?

[brazen magnet]

I feel absolutely fine on damnation as a psyker, less pronounces then others

[subtle monolith]

there is none there

[round shuttle]

BB is your only guaranteed way of getting warp charges though

[brazen magnet]

but horde clear and special killing with voidstaff, BB + forcesword special

[sly thunder]

And how, pray tell, do we get those warp charges? 4%? :)

[brazen magnet]

is very good

[flint plover]

the people who think you mainly get warp charges from BB haven't played on a lot of higher difficulties, me think

[spare niche]

what is that background?

[shell radish]

when theres a horde you'll max out lol

[tropic halo]

and my counterpoint is that others have an easier time with their main tools but our main tools are minimal. it clearly has way less value at heresy and damnation. but others and their traits still have the same viable use in those difficulties

[spare niche]

LOL

[flint plover]

4% on kill, for any of your team mates, for the hundreds and hundreds of enemies you kill

[spare niche]

very cool

[shell radish]

LMAO

[tropic halo]

that i agree on

[subtle monolith]

my sister painting

[spare niche]

thought so

[bitter abyss]

MSPaint Nurgle Froggy bois?

[spare niche]

looks awesome haha

[flint plover]

that's fair. i do agree that most of the psyker's feats are... meh

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-frog-gif-14112820

[shell radish]

froge

[pallid dock]

4% plus the passive BB plus the soulblaze ult stacks up warp charges extremly reliable.

[subtle monolith]

so where is it

[past patio]

so basically you're forced into a non-bb warp charge perk to make the class feasible, got it

[tropic halo]

aye, that's what im saying. we have tio work harder for the same results. somebody else brought that up too

[round shuttle]

4% means 1 charge every 25 enemies killed. That’s kinda only during hordes.

[subtle monolith]

the most odd thing is

that my graphics settings are saved

[flint plover]

in damnation i'm at max warp charges for every horde without BBing unless I need to. I don't know what to tell you

[livid wraith]

If you play damnation and your team is killing then you will get warp charges as long as you are together. I just wish the amount of brainblast perks didn't bait people into thinking running around with their hands all game is a solid strategy in damnation lol.

[subtle monolith]

like I change them and they stay the way I changed them

so it must be getting config file from somewhere

but where

[lean crystal]

frowg

[spare niche]

thinking about this right

good luck gettting kills with soulblaze

[flint plover]

no, lol. that seems like trash

[pallid dock]

you dont need to maintain warpcharges constantly. I dare say it even makes you a worse psyker player if you are focussed too much on the charges. they are a bonus.

[spare niche]

this would be good for low levels

higher levels

[flint plover]

the charges don't even really matter

they're a nice bonus

[spare niche]

KB is so much better

[livid wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/curt-mega-spies-are-forever-tcb-tin-can-bros-feather-gif-21444056

[frozen cloud]

I enjoy playing with the quick charge 30 feat, it's a great way to cc.

[lean crystal]

In my experience, they come along through the 4% thing fairly well, given the number of enemies you kill

[near wyvern]

It's all right with purge staff

[past patio]

charges give you peril resistance and increase overall dmg uptime

[spare niche]

well it doesnt stack if im correct in saying

well i saw someone in this chat say that

[sly thunder]

I basically only have full warp charges in hordes. Outside of them, they fall off so fast.
In addition, isn't there an issue with regards to the fact most of the feats are built around a mechanic where the only real way of gathering is using one specific feat?

[tropic halo]

the moment i went from 4% warp cahrge to the force special regen perk, i became much deadlier as a psyker

[lean crystal]

I wish the staffs had more descriptive names, I keep forgetting which one is which

[flint plover]

to be fair, you don't really need max warp charges outside of a horde

[devout axle]

Been a few hours since I reposted this. So here you go,
https://strawpoll.com/polls/kogjv36xvg6

[livid wraith]

i agree the feats are whack on psyker

[spare niche]

purge (fire)
surge (palpatine)
Void (big boom)
Trauma (shakey shakey big floor explodeddd)

[sly thunder]

The feats are just so poorly designed. Change the feats and I do not care about BB. I already ignore having it lmao

[past patio]

agree maybe the 4% one should be the main

[harsh palm]

just got this on my psyker after hitting lvl 30, is it worth using instead of a staff?

[round shuttle]

I would literally trade BB out for a grenade and be happy about it

[primal aurora]

so, worth upgrading to yellow?

[shell radish]

no

[flint plover]

if you have fun with it, sure

[lean crystal]

Cheers! That should be pinned in this channel, lol

[hasty wolf]

Is there an internal cooldown to this or can you blast a fat af horde and get like all your warp charges back in seconds

[livid wraith]

Surge - Got this in the bag!
Purge - Causing a bit of lag!
Void - Crashed the game, my bad!
Trauma - I am sad.

[lean crystal]

Have you tried the other classes? lol

[spare niche]

purge - CANT SEE SHIT

https://tenor.com/view/light-moon-dancing-bright-gif-16638518

[spare niche]

u have to rebuild the fucker

:l;

[dusky lantern]

Bro these two feats make BB elite packs easy on T4-T5

[frozen cloud]

Cool down is that the ability has to recharge, it's psykinetics wrath thar causes it

[round shuttle]

To clarify, I want to keep my cool staves and just have something usable instead of BB

[spare niche]

if u have specific feats u can get them back well quick

[sick veldt]

which one of these is better? is finesse important enough that it's worth sacrificing a few points in those other stats?

[timber fable]

Behold!

[covert ermine]

6 charges on force weapons pretty good i think
personally use that one with fast charge to spam brain burst

[livid wraith]

Vet still faster kekw

[dusky lantern]

Im not saying its faster than vet though

[solid lake]

No internal cool down. Hit F, flame the horde with a purge staff, boom back to full charges

[dusky lantern]

Just saying its still viable

[past patio]

inspect the finesse stat and see how much of a difference there really is

[spare niche]

or palpatine them

[hasty wolf]

But I meant does the ult itself deal enough damage to get you charges back alone

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-starwars-star-wars-emperor-gif-7513769

[frozen cloud]

The 30 feat that recharges your Shockwave on use is great for CC. You become a wall to keep enemies back

[sick veldt]

honestly i think they're close enough the more important question is the moveset between the mk v and mk iv

[spare niche]

nah xD

[hasty wolf]

Or does soulblaze tickle even trash mobs

[lethal plover]

I just finished damnation endless with 2 ogryns
This reinforces my strong belief that, it's not DPS that matters
It's staying alive in a horde and knowing how to survive dogs / trappers, that really matters. I would take ogryns over vets any day for reliable team mates

[frozen cloud]

Let everyone in the squad do their thing

[tranquil fiber]

that doesn't work all the time xD like less than 30% back to 6

[spare niche]

ill demonstate 2 seconds lemme get a clip

[past patio]

IV has cleave, that is a win with me

[solid lake]

I think you need 6 stacks to kill stuff on the later difficulties

[tranquil fiber]

yes, whatever gets you to mission complete screen is the best build xD

[livid wraith]

true. most vets are braindead. but a good vet is a focal point of most comps.

[lethal plover]

all the DPS in the world doesn't matter when dog is on you

[sick veldt]

yeah makes sense, better for hordes n shit

[tranquil fiber]

Teamplay is what gets you there

[frozen cloud]

Yeah this is a team game, and psyker doesn't seem like a dps class, it looks geared totally toward cc

[tranquil fiber]

thats why supporting is appealing

easy runs yields the best results

Psykers don't need to shine all the time, you as a player though shine the most when you get all that loot

[tropic halo]

what LOOT

[tranquil fiber]

[tropic halo]

🤣

[tranquil fiber]

notice me Emp'rah senpai

[tropic halo]

you mean an autostubber for the tenth time, honey?

[shell radish]

the cc staff slows combat down quite a bit

[sly thunder]

Which does sorta suck you know. Most people play the space wizard to explode shit not to be a CC bot.

[shell radish]

helps a ton

[hasty wolf]

I do miss lootboxes

Fuck the store

[flint plover]

literally got my sixth legendary gun yesterday

so salty

[spare niche]

so here we go

[hasty wolf]

Seriously fuck the store so hard

[spare niche]

4 stacks of warp charge

[night marten]

#psyker-class message

[sly thunder]

The store is ass

[tranquil fiber]

After next week im just gonna spend my weekly coins on rolls

[shell radish]

I mean lightning is pretty common for psykers in the lore lol

[spare niche]

on ult does this

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/Lkjm1lGtlq7u7/d1337y5EhiWm?invite=cr-MSxEdlUsNDQ2NDE2OTAs

watch that ^

[hasty wolf]

I went over 10 levels without a single force sword showing up

smh

days

[covert ermine]

I have only shitty force swords

[frozen cloud]

Well shout at fatshark to make the next psyker dps. I'm not insulting btw, I mean that genuinely.

[pallid dock]

same. crafting needs to come around.

[tranquil fiber]

yeah thats the purge build peeps are talking about but was that with 6 stacks?

[hasty wolf]

Jesus christ that's fucking awful

[spare niche]

4 stacks

LOL

[frozen cloud]

They've been pretty good at listening to people

[spare niche]

lemme try with 6

[tranquil fiber]

yeah 4 stacks is not worth it

[west fjord]

Worth upgrading?

[tranquil fiber]

i think on 6 it hits for 50 a tick

[shell radish]

LOL

[sly thunder]

Sure, just gotta wait 3 years :)

[scenic pendant]

Does Warp Absorption work on staff attacks yet?

[dusky lantern]

ye

[tranquil fiber]

yes.

[hasty wolf]

Omg gift me that for christmas please

[livid wraith]

been looking for that. now if you could just hand it over.

[tranquil fiber]

that should go to 500 if lucky

[night marten]

6-stack AB against damnation mobs https://gfycat.com/belovedshrillhornedtoad

[unkempt juniper]

The mkiv is just more fun imo and the heavies are faster, require more effort to land headshots and doo less damage than the mkv.

The mkv dueling sword has a very interesting combo with the special attack:
Special>light>special>light.
It permastuns ragers and uses the strong 3rd hit in the light attack chain, which is a strike down that likes to find heads. Also, the defense stat add to dodge distance as much as mobility dies, so you basically always hit the maximum dodge distance with the mkv compared to the mkiv.

[hasty wolf]

Yeah ok that's definitely more like it

[severe laurel]

So huge range but lousy damage

[spare niche]

yea thats what i just did

tbh thats actually really good

slow tick down with purge staff included

u will be wiping

[hasty wolf]

You'll have all your charges back instantly if you ult a fat horde like that tho

[tranquil fiber]

yeah the range of that its more than the range of Purge Staff with the flame thrower

[proven wedge]

If you have 120 enemies in front of you then I don't think it is lousy damage.

[tranquil fiber]

its like the flame thrower is just filler for the ultimate use + 6 stacks

[lean crystal]

That has a WAY longer range than I expected

[tranquil fiber]

thats why I feel like having more ultimate usages makes more sense for the build

[flint sky]

15 tick damage lmao

[hasty wolf]

Bright wizard ult but frontal cone

[tranquil fiber]

than 15% more damage with weapon

[hasty wolf]

Seems ok

[unreal tapir]

how does psyker play on high difficulty? played a lot of ogryn and they look interesting

[hasty wolf]

I've only heard bad things about psyker past heresy

[hasty wolf]

Good thing my pc isn't good enough to handle heresy performance yet

[severe laurel]

Speaking as a 30 ogryn who went to try psyker, its painful and you're fragile

[night marten]

also, purge staff damage on damnation https://gfycat.com/quarrelsomelastcow

[tranquil fiber]

you can play them support or dps.
An asset to a team if you know your role well.

[flint sky]

push attack on that axe is so nice

[tranquil fiber]

Purge is good on most apart for Carapace enemies

which is likely where you wanna left click spam to stagger them

[unkempt juniper]

Against crushers I just whip out brain burst

[tranquil fiber]

yeah

[paper trail]

purge honestly feels absolutely awful to me when I try to use it and like a wet noodle

[night marten]

purge is bad against mutants, dogs, crushers, and bulwarks

[tranquil fiber]

i mean you have team mates to deal with them

[night marten]

everything else it melts pretty well

[paper trail]

even surge feels like it does more damage than purge to me

[viscid matrix]

the things that you want to kill quickly

[unkempt juniper]

If I see a crusher in a horde, I pop ult to stun it and use the bb buff to murder that crusher. Works well even in damnatipn

[lethal plover]

may I recommend trauma to pair with purge for those trying days against armors

[hasty wolf]

There's literally no reason not to always run void imo

[night marten]

yea, need to have another option (FS special is really effective)

[hasty wolf]

What a godsent staff

[shell radish]

surge is very noice

[idle bay]

Why blue axe have lower damage than purple one, while having higher %damage stat ?

[tranquil fiber]

Trauma feels like the Ogryns grenade launcher just with more effort.

[lethal plover]

free so spam it more

[shell radish]

first target% maybe

[hasty wolf]

The damage number also calculates the first target stat

[unkempt juniper]

First target stat

[idle bay]

Thank you!

[lethal plover]

also trauma oneshots bursters on damnation. pretty gucci

[worthy wasp]

oh shit

[shell radish]

the red one has the worse moveset

[tranquil fiber]

show us the attack breakdown

[paper trail]

Do you have a video of you killing a carapace mob with a purge staff in an efficient manner?

[viscid matrix]

inspect the weapon, and mouse over the bars and see what they doo

[unkempt juniper]

Imo the most important stat for dueling swords is the heavy attack flak armor headshot number

That's where the breakpoints matter

Ideal perks would be flak armor dmg and headshot dmg

[viscid matrix]

go into the meatgrinder and set it to damnation and try it out yourself

[tranquil fiber]

I said apart from Carapace , in other words, not that great for killing it.

Your best chance of being good with it is hoping a random 10% brain burst procs on one.

its the same with the Zealot Flamethrower

[ebon jolt]

Does anyone use quicken and find it more effective than the other level 30 feats?

[unkempt juniper]

Just use bb against crushers

And bulwarks

[tropic halo]

quicken's really bad.

[tranquil fiber]

though if you have haymaker on dagger it really procs with it

one sec

[paper trail]

my bad I misread that as "on most part" not apart

[viscid matrix]

zealot flamer does more damage, more burn damage and lasts longer, its a better version of purga staff in every way

[shell radish]

kinetic barrage feels better

[paper trail]

missing a ,

[tranquil fiber]

https://streamable.com/rdaky9

[tropic halo]

you're better off with the special cooldown perk to get back your specials faster

[night marten]

pretty much this yea, even once is enough to open them up to get deleted by the vet, or have you contribute with FS special

[spare niche]

[ebon jolt]

The level 15 feat or curio perks?

[tropic halo]

while having a much more reliable and faster BB on top of it

[tropic halo]

level 15, aye

[full bane]

Ogryn question for Spark’Eds, how do you do cool space magic and how can Ogryn learn?

[lethal plover]

but sir, haven't you heard the memo that BB is useless past heresy.
I hear that from our discordians a lot

[tranquil fiber]

weird bug interaction that makes flamer insta kill on dot

[tropic halo]

plus the curios if you can get them, which im trying to do

[ebon jolt]

Okay. Because the curio feats feel like they make no noticeable difference even when I stack them. But I’m only using +6% at the moment.

[tranquil fiber]

whats the max stat of combat ability cooldown?

is it 3 %?

[tiny wharf]

4% I believe

[paper trail]

9% cooldown is what in seconds

[tiny wharf]

2.25 on the 25s ability cd.

[tranquil fiber]

off the top of my head I can't even remember the F cooldown

[tranquil fiber]

there we go

[timber fable]

https://darkmass.gg/curios

@tranquil fiber

[tropic halo]

well six percent is barely anything sadly, yeah. hopefully 10 percent helps. that's what im trying to go for anyway.

[tranquil fiber]

thank you ❤️

[ebon jolt]

Cooldown is 30s I thought? I timed it in the meat grinder.

[paper trail]

sounds about right

[lethal plover]

Psyker ult is pretty much always up when you need it

[worthy wasp]

Which attack? Lights or Heavies?

[past patio]

toughness DR wtf

[tranquil fiber]

I haven't seen anything above 20% Max health curios

[idle bay]

Wyck_Xaos — Сегодня, в 20:25
I can't help myself to wait any more - and posted in LFG for team to help with Going up with a Bang.... i just want that hat 🙂

[spare niche]

whats the purge feats again?

[tiny wharf]

Could be. I haven't tested it personally. that would be 2.7.
I view it as useless, since the suicide animation is >3s, and having a 3s shorter cd won't help you since you can just wait the extra 3s, even if about to explode.

[proud hare]

thoughts on this axe?

[tranquil fiber]

thank you, thats perfect

[obsidian lichen]

You can even get +% HP on traits for more health.

[lethal plover]

You mean the weapon type, or your roll?

[proud hare]

roll

[tranquil fiber]

reee I need higher gear score to hopefully see more of those or just RNG

[obsidian lichen]

Good roll, good axe.

[lethal plover]

Pretty okay

[tranquil fiber]

good starting axe, upgrade it until you get a 370+ one drop

[paper trail]

most spawn for like 69ish to me its so hard to even get like 75+ but 80 is highest I've got

[lethal plover]

Mobility is dump stat. His base stats are perfect

[worthy wasp]

Bruh

Its the perfect axe

[night marten]

Is it confirmed that gear score/watermarking is a thing in the shop? I though it was entirely based on character level

[tranquil fiber]

I've seen a few people now that have commented on seeing a 380 grey drop spawn when they had higher gear score, its not confirmed but more cases like that are popping up

[lethal plover]

Don't spread misinfo

[tranquil fiber]

so speculation, im afraid but its a goal im working towards

[lethal plover]

Hedge answered it

#general-chat message

[night marten]

I only ask because the approach of some people is to keep buying the most expensive thing in the hopes the average quality of their shop RNG rises

[tranquil fiber]

For the rating it is based on : o Mostly your character level o A bit on your trait/perks amount (rarity) o A bit on your trait/perks rank, so the quality

[tiny wharf]

God I fucking hate force swords, but this is a pretty spicy force sword.

[tranquil fiber]

So that more or less confirms it then

[night marten]

I tried that a few times in the lates 20s and shortly after hitting 30 without seeing any noticeable difference. Even now the stat quality is a complete toss up

[proud hare]

i upgraded the axe

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-axe-throwing-axe-throw-fail-bounce-gif-14133456

[night marten]

where is that from

[proud hare]

that mean bad? @spare niche

[royal granite]

nice dodge

[spare niche]

nah its a good axe i think

i dont do axe mate

but good news !

#📢news-bulletin message

more updates

[raven kayak]

sorry am a bit lost, where ogryn place

[tranquil fiber]

from this @night marten

[night marten]

ah I have them blocked lole

[spare niche]

Crafting SystemIn our next content update, we will add the “Refine Item” functionality to our crafting system. This functionality will allow you to replace one Perk on a Curio or a Weapon. The same Perk slot can be replaced multiple times, but will block replacing other perks on the same item. This is the next step in building out our crafting system.

POG

[livid wraith]

That's still kind of ambiguous. I would assume that what he meant was on your equipped slots, but doesn't explicitly state that.

[tranquil fiber]

loooool

[lethal plover]

mostly character level
the fact that perks / rarity go into the weapon rating is already known from the breakdown

[tranquil fiber]

yeah totally.

[livid wraith]

Right but the question he was responding to was about whether or not the requisition shop rolls are based on your inventory or your currently equipped.

[tranquil fiber]

I kind of get it though those who have more gear or finessed their gear will have more luck at getting better equipment

[worthy wasp]

Aight

Atrox Mk2 is the new baby

[night marten]

The shop still shows up with sub 300 base stat items sometimes

[paper trail]

reading Hedge's reply it honestly feels like he completely didn't understand the question and actually just described what a singular items rating is based on

[worthy wasp]

I may swap back to Mk5 but I'm fucking loving this thing

[lethal plover]

item's ratings don't depend on your level

[night marten]

Might not be familiar with watermarking as a gear system

[ashen bear]

Is +3 Stamina useful for you guys?

[lethal plover]

so that can't be what he described

[lethal plover]

with peril block nope

[worthy wasp]

Not for psyker

[ashen bear]

Let me ask the British then

[tranquil fiber]

go on...

[worthy wasp]

Also pends on what weap you use because Mk5 Axe is constantly at 0 stam anyways

[paper trail]

u wot mate your avin a laff

[worthy wasp]

Totally uses peril to block

[lethal plover]

besides.... stamina

you think wizards work out?

[drifting cairn]

does this look good or should I just go with the malice chest piece instead?

[tranquil fiber]

I'm looking forward to being able to refine gear

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/james-mcavoy-sweating-fanning-yourself-cooling-off-sweat-meme-gif-25431489

[worthy wasp]

Thing is too... a weapon having "First Hit" is so fkn good

[paper trail]

yeah the upgrading stuff is like so badly needed already

[tranquil fiber]

I think you should go with what ever makes you feel pretty

[worthy wasp]

First Hit is basically Smiter from vt2, which was meta af for all classes that had access to it

[tiny wharf]

tldr; watermark system averages your current gear score to increase what you get as drops.
100 gear score equipped lets you obtain 105 items.
105 gear score lets you obtain 110 items.
And so on

[tranquil fiber]

I like to run around in my prison garm and scare 30s in Damnation thinking a lowbie has queued up.

[drifting cairn]

yeah i did that for a lil while on my zealot

[night marten]

oh sorry, I know what it is, was referring to Hedge base on their post. but thank you anyways

[worthy wasp]

This game doesnt use that tho, right? Its based on inventory rather than equipped shit?

[tranquil fiber]

I like a sprinkle of chaos here and there

[paper trail]

prisoner garb colour choice at char gen is the most important choice you will make in the game

[tiny wharf]

Not a fuckin clue

[tranquil fiber]

So this update is next week?

[night marten]

make sure to change your portrait, banner, and de-equip trinkets

[tranquil fiber]

hahahaha yes!

[paper trail]

It would really need to be highest ever owned or average highest ever owned in order to be less mental

[silent bolt]

good or meh?

[night marten]

I'm not sure watermarking is even thing

really suspect it's just level-based

[crisp yacht]

Good

[night marten]

once you're 30, you're seeing the best RNG you can get

[worthy wasp]

Same

[paper trail]

with how infrequently and randomly the higher ratings appear for me on the broker I don't believe for one second that anyone can really say for certain because its just too random

[tiny wharf]

That is pretty fucking spicy my dude

[tranquil fiber]

yeah

[tranquil fiber]

I saw a post on Reddit of someone testing it.. 30 days check

[tiny wharf]

Nearly a perfect roll actually

[tranquil fiber]

sec I'll dig it up

[paper trail]

I suspect its just level based on the fact that I was offered much higher gear on sire melk like 2 weeks ago than I have ever seen since

[worthy wasp]

Debating whether I wanna run 2 health curios + 1 wound or 3 health

[night marten]

I haven't seen anything better than my current gear in a couple weeks either

[tiny wharf]

I usually roll with 1 wound, just because 2 wounds by default is pretty rough.

[full atlas]

how do i use the fire staff effectively? i only play on Malice and either i need to tank shots to get in effective range or my other teammtes killing everything before i can charge up my alt fire.

[paper trail]

the only things I have been able to improve on from the blues vendor was curios and I still havent seen any 80's on my psyker yet only my zealot who I dont even play

[tranquil fiber]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zfpyzd/i_recorded_weapon_ratings_from_28_shop_refreshes/

Here we go.

[night marten]

focus using it on bigger groups of melee enemies, or quickly "painting" everything in range very briefly for an easy stagger before closing with your own melee

[paper trail]

I mean that is such a small sample

[lethal plover]

your weakness is trash gunmen from afar. same for zealot flamer
Luckily you have team mates

[tranquil fiber]

Game has only been out since the 30th so its still early days

either way the longer we all play, the more we'll see 1% god rolls

[lethal plover]

"out"

[west galleon]

I like psykers, i dont like staffs... am i setting myself up for failure?

[tranquil fiber]

sorry correction, the game is only in early access

when it releases we'll see more god rolls

[tiny wharf]

That cant be right. I checked my shop out of curiosity and I happen to have 2 "unicorns" simultaneously based on his numbers.

[lethal plover]

preorder beta was the real launch for most of us, just that fatshark doesn't want to call it that

[sonic aspen]

You requested a psyker my lord

[tranquil fiber]

I thought his numbers were based on the weapons stats not the rating total number.

[lethal plover]

you have summoned @bleak sonnet

[royal granite]

do whatever, margin of error is never so tight that you can become a real detriment to your team because of your build, it's nearly all down to player skill

[west galleon]

Nice, im a badass

So all ok i guess 🙂

[lethal plover]

gun psykers on damnation deal with that one weakness of psykers: scores of gunmen from afar

before damnation the gunmen don't hit hard enough to matter

[livid wraith]

damnation doesn't feel too spicy unless its endless. Endless can provide some spicy meatballs sometimes.

[tranquil fiber]

the highest I've seen a total rating is 505

[tiny wharf]

Ah.
Disregard, I suck cocks

[lethal plover]

be careful of display bugs

when total ratings don't add up

because fatshark

[tranquil fiber]

[tranquil fiber]

it's all love ❤️

[west galleon]

Well, thanks for boosting my confidence

I now dont feel as bad anymore over rejecting the staff weapons

[paper trail]

I mean, what are the highest perks and blessing that we have even seen on a blue vendor item? Even a blue item at 380 rating surely could have a maximum rating that will never be able to be higher meaning the normal vendor progression won't even be the problem unless he starts selling purples and its actualy Sire Melks Randoitorium that we should really be working out the statistics for

[livid wraith]

70+70=150. Imperial math you carry the imaginary numbers over.

[tranquil fiber]

I like to be held accountable but not as much as CMs....

there is only so long I can be a social whore

[night marten]

he sells trash far more often than not from what I've seen

[lethal plover]

all 4 staves are viable on damnation, so is gun psyker
psyker meta is the most interesting I have seen

[graceful pilot]

is there a easy or good way to do going out with a bang in pub matches

[pallid dock]

The Adeptus Fiducius would like to know your location, heremath.

[night marten]

it's just a noob trap because new people are fooled by the colors

when the base stats aren't anything different from the mid items offered by the shop

actually feels like you're spending very rare currency on the exact same BS shop rng garbo while saving a token amount of crafting mats

[tiny wharf]

Not that I can fucking tell. I get everyone on board in the pregame, tell them specificially which elites not to kill after I've set them up for death, and then have some fucko kill one a micro second before my explosion goes off.

I've done over 30 missions attempting going out with a bang, and my teammates are my biggest hurdle. Im almost tempted to let them die and stay dead so I can do it alone

[tranquil fiber]

maybe us Pskers

should team up

and help each other

[night marten]

am I wrong on that? is melks not a giant scam? maybe less so now because we can't control blessings without crafting, but even more so when that gets implemented

[sick fractal]

Psyker has the worst penances

[lethal plover]

penance chasing is a mistake

[pallid dock]

cooperaetion? among zis bunsh of egomaniaks? hah! preposteros Aye zaeh!

[tranquil fiber]

existence is pain

[graceful pilot]

well penace is kinda the endgame for me

[lethal plover]

endgame is solo damnation endless

[tranquil fiber]

I just wanna progress on my challenges

I still haven't done knocking 7 off yet

[sick fractal]

it used to be 20 knock offs

[livid wraith]

Viable is a fun word isn't it. Trauma staff could use some love though.

[graceful pilot]

did that one on espionage mission last phase the brigde there is easy to use

[tiny wharf]

Thankfully I got cliffhanger by accident.

[lethal plover]

before, it was "if you bring this to heresy+ you're screwed"
now "oh it can clear because game is so easy"

if it can clear, it clears

[jovial frigate]

this would be true if it was something you could choose to do

[livid wraith]

hmmmm. i never said you're screwed. I just made the argument that zealot is a better purg staff.

[lethal plover]

I did it with 2 psykers. me trauma the other purgatus

psyker can definitely go solo damnation

[sick fractal]

2 psykers with purg and 2 zelots with flamers

[lethal plover]

and people blocked me when they got mad I said psyker had best solo potential

[livid wraith]

The only thing I said was actively trolling was people walking around brain-blasting the whole time.

the purg argument is just fun

[tiny wharf]

Gotta keep them stacks up

[livid wraith]

cause zealot is better purg kek

[spare niche]

honestly i gotta say both staves have their own ways u know i like them both

i prefer surge but i do like purge

[lethal plover]

flamer's weakness, is that it's not wielded by a psyker

who can peril block all day and BB snipers from afar and use no ammo

[livid wraith]

Void staff seems like it could be good but I can't get a good one for the life of me. I want to try the weakpoint quell peril with the peril toughness feat

and the terrify perk maybe

[worthy wasp]

Psyker can also gain toughness from purg

What synergy does zealot have with flamethrower...?

[sick fractal]

Purg build most fun imo

[livid wraith]

20m dash and 20m range. gapclosing for days whenever a ranged patrol or 2 comes in you can rush their spawn and kill them before they split.

[spare niche]

i fully commit my psyker into a support role so 😄

what i do all the time LOL

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/LkFv47rzB24F3/d1337KogkrlE?invite=cr-MSxqbUwsNDQ2NDE2OTAs

[lethal plover]

video stops at 9 seconds for me

[spare niche]

[lethal plover]

nevermind it loads now

yeah surge does that. for mutants and dogs.

[spare niche]

well good

i just love distrupting the fuckers

best part when i zap a bomber

[tiny wharf]

it stops bursters too

[spare niche]

and it blows itself up

LOL

[spare niche]

i love it when it pushes back the bursters and they just fall over

and u can just bully them

[livid wraith]

I still laugh when they start breakdancing across the floor

[spare niche]

https://gfycat.com/TerribleInfantileAnteater

[livid wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-tryhard-zouhir-slide-shovel-gif-5046363

[spare niche]

my fave

with the dog

[worthy wasp]

Yeah nah I've officially converted over to Atrox Mk2

[shell radish]

a slow charge rate on the surge staff feels t e r r i b l e

[worthy wasp]

Just weapon swap

[lethal plover]

reminder that you can use nvidia shadowplay or amd counterpart to record for smoothest video and lowest performance overhead

[shell radish]

but what if I want to full charge it

[worthy wasp]

Why would you do such a thing

[shell radish]

stunning mutants

[tiny wharf]

Eh. Imo my job with surge is to stop hounds from pouncing, bursters from exploding, and mutants from charging. All of which is done for the same duration with instant cast or full charge.

[spare niche]

full charging surge is actually quite qood

[worthy wasp]

heres my doodoo staff

[spare niche]

gives u some noice dmg

[worthy wasp]

its actually legit

[summer prairie]

full charge is decent against some gunlines and guards

[lethal plover]

you need full charge to stop mutants?

[tiny wharf]

nope

[lethal plover]

welp

[worthy wasp]

the perks and blessings are doodoo tho

[shell radish]

wait you dont lol

[spare niche]

😢 me want better

bad perks

but good stats

[night marten]

man, I've got three additional really solid FS rolls, but they don't have deflector like my current one 😦

[shell radish]

you guys have high Ilvl staffs

[stark nebula]

Its not a force sword but I'm tempted

[tropic halo]

mines is 500.feels good, man.

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/why-u-bully-me-bully-gif-15364456

[shell radish]

thats the horizontal heavy first axe

with no cleave

bad axe

[worthy wasp]

The Rashad Combat Axe is a load of dookie

[young summit]

sadpanda 😦 crap damage stat. mediocer on the others

[stark nebula]

Oh man, it looked so good on paper

[young summit]

first purge staff iv seen in a week

[shell radish]

nah its shit

[stark nebula]

Well thanks for saving my spacebucks

[worthy wasp]

ye on paper the rashad is amazing, but in practice its a load of doodoo

[shell radish]

you want the atrax V I think its called

with the rubber handle

[worthy wasp]

the only good combat axe is antax mkv

and its insanely good

[spare niche]

its like some females. great on the outside, sour on the inside

[stark nebula]

I have no idea wtf the different axes do

lol

[shell radish]

this one

[summer prairie]

mkv doesn't cleave much for me even with brutal momentum

[long wharf]

you mean it's like some people

[hollow nebula]

When it comes the weapons store, how does it determine what rating to go with? Is it by level or highest rating item you own?

[shell radish]

the block hit cleaves everything

[long wharf]

plenty of shitty guys and gals

[spare niche]

that too

[summer prairie]

not for me

[tiny wharf]

The question of the hour.

[worthy wasp]

tac axes are all great, but mk2 and mk7 are the best. They attack fast af and have high crit.

combat axes are all doo BUT mk5 because it has a beastly af push attack that just dunks on absolutely everything

[summer prairie]

compared to some actually good cleaving weapons it feels bad

[stark nebula]

Found one kicking around my inv. maybe i should roll it

[worthy wasp]

definitely, solid rolls

just get it to blue

and test it out

remember

use the push attack

[shell radish]

nice axe

[worthy wasp]

if you start wondering, "man, am I using this move too much?" you know you are doing it right

[tidal adder]

https://youtu.be/aPVcG8_oAAY

I kekd

[stark nebula]

Thanks for the tips, appreciate it

[shell radish]

the antax axe is literally brain off mode

no think

only block push

[lethal plover]

the only things worse than youtubers promoting stupid builds are youtubers who don't even play the game but exaggerate certain aspects of the game

[worthy wasp]

when in doubt

push it out

w8 wut

[livid wraith]

also overhead spam for carapace/bosses

ezmode

[worthy wasp]

tac axe dunks on bosses man

feels so good

[mild tartan]

Psykinetic bros, who has managed to intentionally kill themselves and 3 elites? Are there any particular maps its good to do it on? Going to try to make 3 of my friends help me out but its annoying to schedule

[worthy wasp]

and the atrox tac axe push doesnt have as much cleave but hits fkn hard and has high crit

pairs v well with brutal momentum

[night marten]

join a map quick as you can with bots, the first pack should have non-ogryn elites, soften with either purge or surge staffs before blowing up. if it doesn't work, reload another mission

[lethal plover]

I liked the tac axe when I was low leveled
but I prefer doing more than tickling damage to armor

[night marten]

it's pretty doable

[mild tartan]

got it. Does difficulty alter health much? It's probably easiest to just roll bots on damnation I'd imagine

[livid wraith]

surge staff is pretty good at keeping them in place while you build peril

[night marten]

very much so

it's easiest on malice

easiest difficulty to get packs of elites spawning in threes, and often at the beginning of a level

[mild tartan]

Got it I'll go for that then, thanks

[worthy wasp]

I'm using this thing , I need a better axe but I'm v happy with the perk/blessing for now. Eventually when crafting is a thing gonna transfer both the perk and blessing over (hopefully thats a thing) and also get Brutal Momentum

[night marten]

your perils of the warp explosion damage doesn't scale well with higher difficulties

[livid wraith]

if they had +2 wound curios I would make a suicide psyker. Just you and another psyker blowing up and rezzing each other constantly.

[worthy wasp]

iirc tac axe has a 15% base crit, so this thing has like 30% crit chance

could be 35?

[lethal plover]

Too bad no enemies are really worth suiciding over when we can just murder them

[mild tartan]

I've just been using this thing, got it from a drop and haven't wanted to switch, is tactical axe moveset a lot better?

[worthy wasp]

mk5 is insanely good, cannot go wrong with it

[livid wraith]

true, but if you could have 8 wounds with 2 psykers, it could be a really good meme clear.

[lethal plover]

You won the game son

[tropic halo]

wounds, all the wounds

[worthy wasp]

ye thats a great axe right there

[velvet trail]

Does anyone know if maniac armor has some weird properties? Why does this axe do less damage on heavy to maniac than light?

[worthy wasp]

If you ever get bored of spamming push attacks tac axe is a good alternative

[novel badge]

i noticed this last night too

[lethal plover]

Heavy only on crushers
Light on mutants
Push attack for everything else

[novel badge]

on most maniacs my combat axe mk5 was doing way more damage with light attacks

[velvet trail]

But is that expected behavior or some kind of bug?

[lethal plover]

No idea if bug or design

[west fjord]

504 😄

[worthy wasp]

sweet mother of fuck you beat the game

[tranquil fiber]

very nice! Congrats!

[livid wraith]

sheeeeeeee

[mild tartan]

Was that a drop or consecration? Haven't seen a single thing hit over 490 yet

[tranquil fiber]

treat yo self to a scratch card tomorrow

[west fjord]

Started as a blue, 439

[worthy wasp]

ye you won the lotto with that

I'd build around it

if youre a fan of void

[tranquil fiber]

now you can be the best psyker you can be!

[west fjord]

After I get the Transfer Peril trait off this other staff...

[tranquil fiber]

oh yeah damn that'll be even better

[modest juniper]

Can Kinetic Flayer proc off of another Brain Burst?

[tranquil fiber]

[night marten]

yes

[modest juniper]

thank

Now to find someone willing to help me with Pick'NMix + the 3 elite boom

😩