psyker-class

[teal cargo]

mk5 heavies good for killing mutants

[worthy wasp]

But def the best vs hordes by a mile

[hot ice]

this void staff i got as am emperor's gift

[unkempt juniper]

thats really good

[hot ice]

[unkempt juniper]

also, your name disgusts me

just gotta throw that out there

[hot ice]

thanks

its a name inherited from my high school days lol

[ornate hamlet]

welp just did a damnation with 3 psykers and a bot

wasnt that bad

[hot ice]

bot carried hard

[ornate hamlet]

actually though

[hot ice]

🦾

wait really

[ornate hamlet]

it took all the hounds

and did some clutch revives

[hot ice]

bwahahaha

[long wharf]

don't use it for the light attacks at all

the block attack is a nice sweep cleave

and the heavy attacks decimate enemies

[hot ice]

mk5 heavy is really easy to get headshots on

[long wharf]

really easy

[snow dust]

MK5 dueling swords?

[hot ice]

yes

[long wharf]

it destroys the armored enemies

[snow dust]

What's wrong with the light attack chain?

[long wharf]

oh, I'm talking about the mk5 combat axe

[hot ice]

oh i thought we were talking about duelling swords

LOL

[snow dust]

Kek

[hot ice]

mk5 axe has the same attack pattern tho

on heavies

[snow dust]

Dueling swords are pretty fun

[teal needle]

I hope you can put 'ghost' on a staff when crafting is a thing

[long wharf]

I want to put blazing spirit on a purge staff

[round charm]

i havent done t4/5 yet, but this axe has been doing well so far for me. anyone else use these?

[hot ice]

i only use the mk5 axe, so i cant say

[round charm]

it 1-2 shots most specials with lights, and the push hold attack seems to be a nice horizontal sweep that hits a few enemies for hordes

[teal cargo]

Man why do people aggro the Daemonhost for no reason

[hot ice]

what difficulty you at

[teal cargo]

Heresy

[hot ice]

damn you got shit team mates

[teal cargo]

im trying to BB a sniper

and veteran just goes and power swords a daemonhost

and then dies

[hot ice]

all heresy pubs ive been in, if we manage to realise a dhost is there, we leave it alone

[round charm]

theres literally no reason to ever fight them as far as I can tell

[teal cargo]

yea you don get anything

and cant guarantee you get aggro so 👀

[round charm]

like, maybe they have a scripture behind them, but even then

[teal cargo]

they should make em drop something

[warm latch]

with the change to the staff this thing is nuts

[teal cargo]

change?

[lethal plover]

I just had an incredible damnation (no modifiers) clear
3 psykers. me axe trauma. the others surge and purgatus. I tanked for them
Now I truly believe in psyker supremacy

[frigid sparrow]

So MkV is better against elite

[teal cargo]

👀

[frigid sparrow]

and IV is horde?

[teal cargo]

i guess so

[rocky osprey]

Is quell speed a good dump stat or would you guys rather dump stat something else?

[vivid merlin]

Surge staff used to randomly kill you at high peril

Quell speed is the ideal dump

That is a strong staff

[warm latch]

I mean its really good but with some feats you should be fine

[rocky osprey]

yasss

[tender cipher]

Why would you ever doubt psyker supremacy?

[lethal plover]

this was the hardest moment

[warm latch]

damn that makes me want to do a run

can never get into lobby's with other psykers though.

[lethal plover]

at the start we only had 2 psykers
I thought we were gonna wipe in 3 minutes
but damn, psykers are something else

we handle literally everything

[warm latch]

the trick is to get other like minded psykers. Then you just rip everything apart

[rigid lodge]

Has there ever been anything in another game that was worse designed than going out with a bang penance? I'm struggling to think of anything.

[paper wren]

yes, several things come to mind

[warm latch]

I got the boss one before that

[rigid lodge]

such as?

[warm latch]

I still don't have the going out with a bang

[rare snow]

wait so the primary firing mode, is it identical on all the staffs except for the flamer one?

because it looks identical in my arena testing

[lethal plover]

anyone I have confirmed that trauma is damnation viable
even pure 3 psyker team is damnation viable, let alone 4 psyker

[frigid sparrow]

So question guys, I'm using peril to build up my toughness. I like the peril block too. I want to try force sword with deflector, but how do you manage losing the passive quell that you get with non-force weapons?

right now my process is, build some quell and then close the distance using it as a regen to tide me over if the situation calls for melee

[paper wren]

i mean. you want me to just get the list?? right now?

[rigid lodge]

sure, I think you're full of it, I think it may be the worst design I've ever seen

[paper wren]

wow. thats pretty bold to claim when Superman 64 is a whole game that came out.

[lethal plover]

in practice, peril management isn't that hard, even in the worst of battles, because force sword default push gives you a lot of breathing room where no one is hitting you

[frigid sparrow]

God tier - just rock prisoner robes for end-game, screw cosmetics

[paper wren]

Fallout 4's dialogue tree design is pretty god-awful.

[lethal plover]

force sword auto quell is good enough if you play it right

[rigid lodge]

Superman 64 was a failure in content and quality imo, not the same thing

[tender cipher]

Every Fallout beyond 1 and 2, basically.

[paper wren]

but doesn't that qualify as being badly designed? sounds like you're trying to move goalposts to avoid having to admit your hyperbole.

[paper wren]

thems fightin' words. NV is good.

[rigid lodge]

Although you are right you could argue flying through hoops was terrible design

[paper wren]

there you go. It was.

[tender cipher]

I'll concede that.

[lethal plover]

instead of worrying about force sword peril @frigid sparrow
what you should worry about is that horde clearing with force sword is gonna be hard
in my last 3 psyker run, if I hadn't picked up the axe we would have been wiped by many ragers in the horde

[paper wren]

finally a voice of reason. that neco arc icon is one of trust.

[warm latch]

honestly the force sword is super fun and cool looking

but it will get you killed

[restive slate]

Force axe when

[lethal plover]

with force sword you can choose to live forever by just pushing without attacking

but then you're not clearing the horde

though you may pull off daring revives

a good combo is to use purgatus along with force sword, so that you can clear the horde

[potent echo]

NV made me love RPGs, but then it was kind of a unicorn

[long wharf]

not if you look at Fallout 1 and 2

NV was a proper Fallout game

where you made decisions that affected the world

[paper wren]

NV is the og. the goat.

the great.

[long wharf]

NV is not the "og"

[lethal plover]

great decisions
like dying to a rat

[paper wren]

sorry

its the og in my heart

which is all that matters

fallout begins at NV

[long wharf]

Fallout begins at Fallout

[warm latch]

also if your using the purgatus with the Ascendant Blaze feat start the hoard with your Psykinetic's wrath it will light EVERY thing for on fire. Then you can stack that sweet burn faster

[rare snow]

in my headcanon fallout ended at fallout 2

[paper wren]

but crpgs are boring...

[potent echo]

In emergency situations light-dodge-strong-push loop makes you live forever (until the specials show up)

[rare snow]

i've recently tried fo76 on gaypass and it legitimately felt like a fever dream parody of the franchise

yall should try it if you've played the original 2 games just to witness how far the western mass culture has degraded itself

[potent echo]

Todd is a fever dream parody

[boreal sun]

HEY DOES ANYONE WANT TO SEE THE ORANGE THE EMPRAH JUST GIFTED ME

[potent echo]

16x the detail

[potent echo]

Non't

[rare snow]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-gif-25498247

the orange emperor?

[boreal sun]

garbage

[lethal plover]

that's not an orange

that's a pistol

[hot ice]

op gunpsyker build incoming????

[potent echo]

OP 315 base stats

[boreal sun]

this may not be the best staff

but it has the right blessing

[lethal plover]

why are the pistols even in the game

[boreal sun]

tbh that pistol is fun to use

[potent echo]

Fast to pull out I guess, but the normal lasguns switch speed isn't that much slower

[warm latch]

huh

[rare snow]

so is it just me or is the trauma staff op due to being able to stunlock pretty much any elite?

[potent echo]

First target stats make no sense for low level weapons, the multiplier goes below 1.00

[rare snow]

or am i msising something?

[hot ice]

i got a better version B)

[boreal sun]

bruh wtf it goes up to 5%

[potent echo]

Peril cost

[warm latch]

wait can you get that on the flame staff?

[rare snow]

well it's not THAT expensive...

[warm latch]

because you kinda just hit everything

[long wharf]

I don't think so

[boreal sun]

no

[rare snow]

plus u can always vent with ur ability for 50% reduction

[long wharf]

but you don't hit weak spots with purge

[lethal plover]

you don't need it for flame staff

[potent echo]

Flame staff I usually just keep blasting at 100% and hope battle meditation procs, which it does fairly often lol

[warm latch]

do we have a list of blessings can go on what?

[hot ice]

i think its the highest it can go? not sure

sounds about right tho

[boreal sun]

5% is nutty

[left crater]

would no cap drop at least 10$ for that sword

[boreal sun]

I really want a voidstrike with soulflame

[potent echo]

You basically get "free" left clicks

I just want beamstaff honestly

[warm latch]

so far its pretty fun not gonna lie

[boreal sun]

hopefully I can upgrade this and get deflection

[tacit delta]

or just save mats

and wait for crafting system to come out

so you can force deflection on it from another sword

[boreal sun]

I don't have a sword with deflection yet.

[devout axle]

Reposting this before I go to bed.
Thanks everyone who voted today.
https://strawpoll.com/polls/kogjv36xvg6

[tacit delta]

o

rip

[boreal sun]

when fucking trauma is hte lowest

lmfao

[potent echo]

It was stealth buffed at one point

[tacit delta]

imagine the meme choice

[boreal sun]

a high tier trauma staff might not be bad though

[tacit delta]

is higher than trauma

yikers

[boreal sun]

i'd love to see just a radius increase on trauma staff

or at least a longer cast range

[tacit delta]

make it bigger

the radius

[boreal sun]

longer cast range bigger buff

it's way too short

[tacit delta]

ye

[potent echo]

Cast range is good enough to rain fire down from a vantage point

That's the most fun part about the staff

Also the gibs

[devout axle]

I, personally, don't find its range or its AoE to be a problem. The problem I find is its Peril cost.

[boreal sun]

i'd love to see unique blessings per staff

example

purge staff cast twice delayed

trauma*

flame staff burns ground

[lethal plover]

it's not the radius
fix the damage

[boreal sun]

can trauma even crit?

[potent echo]

Yes

[devout axle]

It can

[lethal plover]

damage table says like 750~800 to crusher but in practice only about 489

even if currently bugged, trauma actually oneshots pox bursters

on damnation

which is weird. I need to test that in meat grinder

[potent echo]

You mean fully charged secondary action?

There are no pox bursters in the meat grinder

[lethal plover]

wtf

[potent echo]

No bosses either

Like the most important dummy to have

[teal cargo]

why no modded servers

[lethal plover]

well take my words with some salt because I did that like twice

[potent echo]

Because no private servers because live service

[vivid merlin]

because its a live service game and you'll play when how and what fatshark decides

[boreal wave]

I feel like the staves in general should stop costing additional peril once you reach max charge

[tidal adder]

Might be because it pushes

[vivid merlin]

modding is illegal in this coop game because otherwise you'd give yourself things instead of grind 8 hours a day

and make their quarterly engagement metrics look bad

now log in and check the store

[potent echo]

Do it on the hour

Do it

[lethal plover]

actually a boon for me using Quietitude and axe autoquell

also at 70~75 peril it's safe to use again

[devout axle]

I don't disagree with this. I can recharge my Toughness really quickly between scraps with it, but that's more of a silver lining I think.

[potent echo]

whats the crowd clear combo on axe, push attack spam?

trying to mix heavies in is really clunky

[lethal plover]

just one, yupe

[bleak sonnet]

yes

[lethal plover]

trauma is so funny for controlling dogs

[potent echo]

also i finally put 1 wound on my curios, actually saved me a couple of times

[lethal plover]

no need to mix, just stand still and do one move

welcome to easy modo

[potent echo]

understandable

also did anyone actually popped the pimples, seem like the hardest objective in the game because literally no one goes for them 🙄

on damnation the tentacles grow back so quickly too

[lethal plover]

one axe move clears the whole pimple

stand there and let your team get to the rest

[warm latch]

ok I got a question what that burn stat doing? is it making it so the burn stacks faster? because I cant tell a difference on damage or burn stack speed.

[potent echo]

they tick faster iirc, but you can check all the stats in the inspect window

[lethal plover]

weapon inspect

[warm latch]

honestly forgot that was a thing

[lethal plover]

man. trauma is pretty gud even if its damage is currently bugged. very fun to send crushers and maulers and dogs flying

[nocturne maple]

Burn stat increases the amount of burn stacks enemies can have overall, which exponentially increases damage

[lethal plover]

a mix of horde clearing and crowd control, sounds like my ideal playstyle

[elder rivet]

why ppl telling to go to shop on this hour

there is nothing good

yeah there are some staff but they sucks tbh

[bleak sonnet]

meh

trauma never felt like anything special when i used it

even with really good rolls

i'd prob rather use anything else

[cyan notch]

better than gun

[bleak sonnet]

debatable

[cyan notch]

at least you can do peril stuff with trauma

or warp kills

[lethal plover]

it has pretty good control

[bleak sonnet]

every staff can stagger dogs

[lethal plover]

also bulwarks and bursters

[cyan notch]

range is just garbage

no idea why they made it so short

[lethal plover]

it actually oneshots bursters on damnation

[bleak sonnet]

do does push

lol

so*

[lethal plover]

melee wouldn't have let me do this

[elder rivet]

that the staff you should play with a BB build, but BB sucks so, staff also suck

[tight birch]

Did you do something impressive in this clip?

[bleak sonnet]

seems like a running theme with most of the clips he posts xd

no offense

[tight birch]

[lethal plover]

pushing stuff behind wall

[tight birch]

You're not even the one that killed the pox burster in that clip

[lethal plover]

I don't need to. I'm used to that, playing as surge guy

[crisp sigil]

I don't think you even pushed it, when it dies it's still behind railing and there is no hit marker

[bleak sonnet]

trauma has more push aoe than damage aoe i think

[tight birch]

I mean anything outside of the immediate center takes like no damage

[bleak sonnet]

ive been trying a new build

its so wonky but it works so well

had my first damnation game where i felt i really hard carried

[lethal plover]

yep, it easily stops a dog even without aiming precisely

[bleak sonnet]

like alone

[elder rivet]

do bot screw up the penance if they attack the monstruosity you trying to solo ?

[bleak sonnet]

ye

i feel like i really do have the ultimate well rounded psy build mathed out

[lethal plover]

I hard carried a 3-psyker damnation game (no modifiers) with axe trauma

so not only do I believe trauma is viable, pure 3 psyker teams are also viable, let alone 4

[bleak sonnet]

anythings viable

[tacit delta]

what axe is that

[lethal plover]

now they just need to fix the trauma damage bug

and I will be able to kill crushers more easily

[lethal plover]

mk 5 axe

we have like 2 melee choice: mk 5 axe and force sword
also some dueling sword enjoyers around

[surreal girder]

I loved the dueling swords at first, but after Mk V and FS when I went back it felt so off.

[tacit delta]

just looks diff than mine lol i might just be crazy

[leaden needle]

mk v with peril block+hit its so ridiculously good

can just res someone in the middle of an entire horde no problem

[tight birch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/b65b9f02-e4bd-4af4-9a96-5a331853536f/surge-staff-tankcc-build I found this build pretty interesting as a peril block build Jk no free clout

[bleak sonnet]

isnt that the guy that was saying he cant beat heresy

yesterday

[tight birch]

Is it? lol

[leaden needle]

he was spamming that guide in all channels yesterday lmfao

the guy who made it

[tight birch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zfbqzj/psyker_tank_build/ found it from this post

[mild lotus]

heresy is training wheel mode

[leaden needle]

desperate for attention

[tight birch]

Oh shit, maybe I've been baited

[bleak sonnet]

dont use surge

its really good but its a bad way to learn higher difficulty

[mild lotus]

it's boring to use

[tight birch]

I've been using purgatus mostly

on heresy / damn

But that's the only reasonably decent staff I've gotten so far

[lethal plover]

Suddenly I can't remember whether this was on damnation, or heresy
can anyone confirm if trauma oneshots bursters on damnation?

[tight birch]

lol

[mild lotus]

Since bursters don't get 1 shot from bb above heresy, and that it's probably due to a high resistance to void damage, I suppose the trauma staff just hits barely a breakpoint to one shots bursters.

Therefor it's probably up to heresy that you can one hit bursters.

Need to test anyway, I can't certify anything.

[lethal plover]

meat grinder has burster?

[mild lotus]

nope

it's missing bosses too

[lethal plover]

we are the academy of psyker tanks

[ashen bear]

Hmmm is this 80%s on the right stat

[lethal plover]

memeing the axe so hard

[mild lotus]

Yes, charge time matters very little on the surge staff since you'll mostly be spamming barely charged secondary attacks.

[lethal plover]

wait he uses FS in the build

[tight birch]

Is it not worth it to ever charge up the secondary?

Is it just a CC bot?

[mild lotus]

it ups damages but dmg on surge is already really low to begin with

[bleak sonnet]

its only worth charging if it lets u 1 shot ranged grunts

depending on ur rolls

[kindred edge]

Out of context this sounds so bad

[mild lotus]

and kill armored enemies without needing to charge too much either

[mild lotus]

It actually is.

If you intend on dealing any kind of damage, drop the surge staff asap.

[bleak sonnet]

if you intend on doing any damage drop staffs in general really :P

[mild lotus]

indeed

[lethal plover]

looking at it again
it is true that I pushed the first dog without even doing damage to it (no hit marker)
push AoE is really bigger than damage AoE

[tight birch]

I don't know if I'll ever be a gun psyker enjoyer, I feel like I would just re-roll veteran

[mild lotus]

staves are for the time being, very much trash mob oriented

[bleak sonnet]

veteran is boring as fuck

i have a 30 vet

never touch it

[tight birch]

Yeah, plus everyone and their mother is playing vet so that's why I kind of landed on psyker, just hoping for changes sooner than later

[bleak sonnet]

no changes needed

[tight birch]

Watching ogryn's with stubbers in heresy / damn looks pretty fun though

[bleak sonnet]

tbh

[mild lotus]

I don't get why people are playing vet so much.

[gilded viper]

Heavy stubber is fun, I prefer ripper myself

[tight birch]

Some staff buffs + some sort of BB scaling would be nice

[mild lotus]

You get to play in the universe of WH40k and first thing you do is spam the most basic grunt class possible.

[bleak sonnet]

BB scaling would make class OP

[mild lotus]

When space wizards and literal giants exist

[bleak sonnet]

BB cast speed buff MAYBE

but even that

[gilded viper]

Cause it’s boring. Like seriously, it’s so easy to wrap your head around and is familiar enough to just pick up for your average CoD player to roll with

[tight birch]

For BB I was wondering how it would go if it put a dot on the target you used it on, having to "brain burst" something multiple times feels silly

[lethal plover]

I do understand. From surface and newer players, vets seem like the strongest class atm, because of bolter/ XII DPS brr
Most people rn don't even know psykers can tank with axe and the like.

[mild lotus]

Not everyone is an ex cod player

[tight birch]

Then you could brain burst a target on damnation once, but it would take like 10-15 seconds for them to hemmorhage and stroke out

[mild lotus]

• cod players are on cod

[night moat]

Made some fanart of my psyker.

[mild lotus]

not on warhammer, a universe they probably don't even know

[bleak sonnet]

vet is a very appealing class for min maxers

[mild lotus]

the average cod player knows only cod and barely anything else

[bleak sonnet]

and a lot of gaming these days is min maxing

[tight birch]

That's prob why I find current psyker frustrating, just feels like there's no one good option to shoot for if you want to sweat

[bleak sonnet]

there's a lot of good options

[gilded viper]

No but any shooter translates well enough to a vet. They don’t like how slow the ogryn feels, the melee combat doesn’t interest them for zealot, and they haven’t figured out how to not blow up as psyker. So they stick to the basics.
Human Fighter is the most common DnD class combo for a reason

[bleak sonnet]

i think most people saying that are kinda in cope mode

[tight birch]

There are a lot of good options but no great option

[mild lotus]

min maxing is interesting to me only on a setting that appeals to me, I don't care for absolute mix maxing if it forces me to play something I enjoy not.

[bleak sonnet]

imo psyker is the second best class by a large margine

[lethal plover]

it is not a coincidence that, let's just say, casual / new players will have a different understanding of the meta than people who are deeper into the game
this all reminds me of how new players in Elden Ring thought moonveil / rivers of blood was best but experienced players know different

[bleak sonnet]

over 3/4

[gilded viper]

Psyker is great

[tight birch]

Definitely above zealot but I'm not sure I would put them above ogryn

[bleak sonnet]

meh

[tight birch]

I feel like they're pretty even

[bleak sonnet]

imo its

1. Z
2. P
3. V
4. O

[tight birch]

and both have their downsides / weaksides

[bleak sonnet]

after having played all of them (but ogryn) to 30 and in damn

[mild lotus]

that's a clear lack of imagination on their part

[gilded viper]

Rivers of blood was broken af and then they had a knife with bloodhound step. PvP was somehow worse then DS3

[lethal plover]

in the last 3-psyker damnation game, without peril blocking, I would not have been able to revive them. a vet would have just died there

[granite pulsar]

are we even using staffs? aren't the guns saving us energy for head pops?

[gilded viper]

People are boring

[bleak sonnet]

most people use staffs

gun is very strong if played properly tho

[lethal plover]

nah, rivers of blood was low-tier in PvP.

[mild lotus]

people don't use bb for a reason

[lethal plover]

it was called rivers of noob for a reason

[mild lotus]

it's slow and lacks kill potential above t3

[tight birch]

I still use BB sometimes on heresy and it has useful situations

[bleak sonnet]

ngl every good psyker i personally know and play with do use BB quite often

[mild lotus]

lags + dubious net code made it strong enough for bleed to get nerfed several times in a row

[mild lotus]

it's still lacking in the oomph department

[gilded viper]

I use it to kill some mobs at range as I run Purge staff, but BB is a tool with a time and place.

[bleak sonnet]

idk

[gilded viper]

Still the only real option for Crushers/Bulwarks etc.

[tender cipher]

The shittier the team position and the more endless the horde, the higher chance you'll end up using BB.

[bleak sonnet]

on the contrary

in my exp

[mild lotus]

you don't really feel like bursting brains, more like causing mild headaches whenever you target something other than the basic corrupted civilian that has already went past the point of aneurysm

[lethal plover]

BB is meant for backline specials
You shouldn't waste it on crushers / bulwarks

[mild lotus]

insert aneurysm meme here

[bleak sonnet]

with good teams there's a lot more incentive to cast BB on targets who need it because im not worried about other stuff

[lethal plover]

unless you have breathing room, of course

[bleak sonnet]

lol

[gilded viper]

Psyker is probably the best horde clearer right now

[lethal plover]

true dat

[mild lotus]

idk vet has power sword

[bleak sonnet]

cleaver ogryn is by far the best horde clear rn

if you know you know

[tender cipher]

With a bad team you're the one who has to deal with bombers, opening up ogryns, ccing reapers from afar and dealing with snipers.

Which means you'll be using BB a lot more frequently.

With a good team you can focus on just staffing everything to death.

[gilded viper]

Well the vet player should shoot the damn scab gunners breathing down our neck while I deal with the thousands of poxwalkers in my opinion

[shadow quail]

is FS the only sword that can get deflector?

[lethal plover]

vets just die when surrounded while psykers live on

[bleak sonnet]

on the contrary with my premade things die so fast i usually am casting BB on the next pack of mobs

[gilded viper]

Yes

[bleak sonnet]

to soften elites

we usually kill most packs before they even get to melee

:P

[mild lotus]

if you mean surrounded by trash mobs then it's a skill issue on the vet's part

[tender cipher]

There's no point in BBing the next pack of mobs because you could've launched a void strike by then.

Or just AFKing

[gilded viper]

Purge and Void can kill most things by itself. The staffs are great

[bleak sonnet]

game is easy enough two people could for sure afk

[mild lotus]

can't spell afking without king

[shadow quail]

Is there a site with a list of what perks on weapons?

[gilded viper]

Like which weapons get what perks? Idk there’s a resource out there with all perks available I believe

[lethal plover]

sometimes life gives you lemons, or a mutant / barrel throws you there

[bleak sonnet]

that being said though generally i get use out of BB because i run the BB ult and the CDR from elites

[lethal plover]

or just skill issue as you said

[bleak sonnet]

so i always have my ult up b4 engagements

quick cast BB is pretty huge damage into armored shit

[mild lotus]

dying to trash mobs as vet when the power sword exists seems odd to me

[bleak sonnet]

and my vet cant shoot everything at once

[mild lotus]

if specials kill then it's a lack of pew pew on their part

[gilded viper]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapon-blessing-traits this might be useful idk

[leaden needle]

i have pick n mix as last penance its making me cry

[lethal plover]

I see it happen to vets all the time on damnation. especially with ragers / maulers mixed in.

[gilded viper]

I feel your pain. I got it on Chasm Station start, hope for 5 gunners, if not, just restart the mission

[tender cipher]

Pox walkers blocking your vision and then suddenly ragers

[mild lotus]

pick n mix is clearly a terrible penance to do, it hits just at the diff level at which mobs stop dying so easily to bb and you have to kill so many of them in so little time that you even have to run a specific feat to get it

[lethal plover]

the fact is that power sword's cycle has holes in it. you can't keep blocking when bunch of ragers whale on it from behind or sth

[gilded viper]

Pick n mix is a lot of rng

[mild lotus]

perhaps the only penance you CANT get before hitting 30

[gilded viper]

I need to complete a Heresy Repair mission, but it still hasn’t shown up in the terminal for me

[mild lotus]

ragers are everyone's issue, not only vets

[lethal plover]

not axe psyker

[mild lotus]

same for me

[mild lotus]

the axe will get nerfed I bet on it

[gilded viper]

Ragers are somehow worse to deal with than plague monks credit to fs for doing that I guess

[lethal plover]

axe psyker push attack literally ragdolls ragers and stops maulers cold

only problem is crusher but they are hard to miss

[gilded viper]

I prefer deflector sword cause ranged shooters are gross ngl

Axe is neat. But Ima space wizard

[bleak sonnet]

i just run dueling sword for the movement now tbh

[mild lotus]

that's the other reason why I'm not touching the axe, on top of being totally counter productive in the drip department, it's so strong it dumbs down the game and will probably be nerfed soon

[tender cipher]

Which axe are you running?

[bleak sonnet]

axe is nice but once i started using gun i started meleeing way less

:P

[lethal plover]

mk 5 axe

[gilded viper]

Atrox right?

[mild lotus]

antrax

[gilded viper]

Anthrax

[gilded viper]

I want a 2 handed force sword and a melee psyker class

I need my Unchained itch scratched

[lethal plover]

lol it's a thing

[mild lotus]

I want a staff that does ANYTHING other than deal with crowds

[gilded viper]

So like the staf primary fire but better?

[tacit fractal]

In a horde game? Damn

[mild lotus]

if there was at least one staff that excelled at dealing with specials, psyker would deserve it's title of "elite slayer" better

[potent echo]

beamstaff copium

[lethal plover]

wdym

[gilded viper]

Beamstaff Battle Wizard salt is real

[potent echo]

beamstaff was the be all end all lmao

[gilded viper]

Can’t famished flames everything to death anymore ayyy

Coruscation is my fav tho. Fire shotgun with fire wells is dope

[potent echo]

fire wells pog

shotgun vs berserkers mmmm

[gilded viper]

1 shot those damn monks on cata pog

[potent echo]

amazing

[lethal plover]

if your team covers you, and someone else is tanking, you don't have to melee as often

[bleak sonnet]

yup

teamwork makes the dream work

[mild lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/dreams-gif-25228853

[gilded viper]

Tell that to the vet players who refuse to watch where they’re going and aggro the daemonhost

[lethal plover]

when others do the tanking, I can be comfortable with force sword

which helps my own survival

[gray island]

just kill it

[tender cipher]

@lethal plover decent enough?

[lethal plover]

more penetration would be nice but it's cool

[gray island]

solid boy

[gilded viper]

Bruh. It ain’t always just gonna be that easy

[lethal plover]

at some point if you lose with weapon it's not the stats but skill issue

[gray island]

press F and brain burst til its dead

[gilded viper]

How do you miss?

[mild lotus]

bb is highly ineficient against bosses above diff 3

[proper ember]

vet player here, here to say its usually the zealots aggroing the hosts

[gray island]

okay, guess you just gotta hold block with FS and let teammates kill it then

[proper ember]

keep up the bbs nerds

[mild lotus]

or maybe use the special of the FSword?

[lethal plover]

unironically, if your team is not bringing a bolter or some whack grenade launcher thing, even on damnation the psyker spamming BB on boss is still good.
It seems that boss health does not change that much on damnation

[gilded viper]

I just want people to watch where they’re walking.
I hate we’re getting a scoreboard, people are gonna play so stupid for those damn green circles

[gray island]

purge the heretics sibling

[gilded viper]

Lotta class synergy with Purgutis.

[mild lotus]

I mean bb will make you reach 100% peril in 3 casts after which you 'll to sit and do nothing at all for several seconds

[gray island]

if you aren't using kinetic barrage you're wrong

[lethal plover]

89 peril to cast again. going from 100 to 89 is incredibly fast
then press F with 30 feat to start rapid casting

[stark junco]

So what feats are you running with mark V axe + surge staff?

[mild lotus]

and 3 casts deals like about 15% of the boss' life bar

[proper ember]

also an opportunity to shame the dudes that arent pulling their weight. we got expectations for every member in the team

[cyan notch]

89?

[lethal plover]

89 peril yes

[mild lotus]

96%

[gilded viper]

Higher difficulties sorta force a slower playstyle, unless you want to be gunned down of course

[cyan notch]

why 89 you can do it higher

[gray island]

yeah its 96 which is even faster

[lethal plover]

is that with peril resistance and warp charges? or no?

[mild lotus]

vanilla

[cyan notch]

thats just naked default

[stark junco]

So what feats are you running with mark V axe + surge staff?

[gilded viper]

Strawberry

[mild lotus]

not having your mental spreadsheet in order smh

[gray island]

surge staff blessing aren't that important. Brutal Momentum and decimator on axe

[lethal plover]

it would be cool to know that, let me test it in meat grinder

[stark junco]

Not blessing, feats

[lethal plover]

I remember testing and 90 killed me

[gilded viper]

I don’t recall blowing up at 90

[mild lotus]

you probably targeted a dying mob

[signal turret]

Might want to test if that Shred blessing actually works

[mild lotus]

I know for a fact that casting bb at 96 is safe while 97 is a one way ticket to boom-land

[lethal plover]

Was that true even in preorder beta

[mild lotus]

no it changed

[gilded viper]

It was lowered to 97 at some point after the closed beta

[gray island]

couldn't tell you the axe feat rolls, i like unyeilding on surge tho

[tidal adder]

Max peril is 97% actually for bb

[gilded viper]

It used to be 98

[stark junco]

No, feats as in the character choices.

[signal turret]

Decimator doesn't work on MK V Axe assuming you're using only the block attack

[valid bison]

Yep the Emperor thinks that I should ONLY get combat axes after a mission, no force swords for me.

[gray island]

321233 is my preference

[mild lotus]

imagine getting psyker weapons as a psyker

[cyan notch]

you dont need to go below 90% for anything now tbh

[gilded viper]

Lol

I want crafting already. I want to put deflector on my good force sword

[lethal plover]

he's telling you something

use the axe

[tidal adder]

Probably depends on the warp resistance on weapons too

Somebody should test it

[gray island]

i guess thunderous then for brittle

[valid bison]

@dire hawk But I can't quell with it and I wannnnaaaaaaa

[lethal plover]

axe is best quelling wdym

[mild lotus]

when you're casting bb, you're not equipping any weapon

therefor weapon warp resist doesn't impact that

[lethal plover]

Kashpar means using staff attacks

[gilded viper]

Don’t use staff attacks wtf

[mild lotus]

I use staves solely as a blunt weapon

[tidal adder]

I apologize i shouldve responded to the guy dorectly, i was refering to this comment “you dont need to go below 90% for anything now tbh”

[mild lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[lethal plover]

you're right don't use staff to attack. Use staff to signal you're a wise pacifist

[gilded viper]

I wouldn’t mind like a bo staff for psyker

[gray island]

psyker and ogren unity is our dumb alt melees

[cyan notch]

you did though lol

[gilded viper]

Psyker and ogryn should both have funny stick

[gray island]

ogren slap psyker hit with stick

[frigid sparrow]

psyker hiding behind a shield orgryn is amazing

Get me close to stun the ranged, go ham

[valid bison]

@lethal plover Like the R to quell ability that only the Force sword has

[tidal adder]

Oh

[gilded viper]

Purge staff behind the slab shield ogryn is glorious

[finite lynx]

Anyone know for sure if Pick n Mix is bugged? Swear to god I just "did" it twice in another run and nothing

[lethal plover]

unironically axe auto-quells better

[mild lotus]

huh?

[tidal adder]

Im smarter than I thought

[mild lotus]

staves and empty hands have that too

[lethal plover]

no he was referring to melee weapons

[tidal adder]

You call it staff, i call it walking cane

[gilded viper]

The bb inspect is funny

[tidal adder]

Were not the same

[gray island]

hittin stick

[gilded viper]

Just staring at your hands

[cyan notch]

does staff poke stagger anything

[valid bison]

Well I'll try it

[mild lotus]

covid check

[lethal plover]

staff poke is to signal you're into kink play

[gray island]

yeah you can quell with staff and other melee waepons

[signal turret]

I actually just got one with this blessing, haven't tested it yet tho. Here's what I mean about Decimator (headtaker and decapitator too) #psyker-class message

[gilded viper]

https://youtu.be/jPb4oryoRMw

[ebon wigeon]

how do i get Cliffhaner? do I need to push 7 enemies all at once off a cliff?

[gilded viper]

Basically

[tidal adder]

I love to roleplay me being depressed and about to double faceplant in elevators with bad teammates

[signal turret]

If you use the MK V I assume any blessing that works based on consecutive hits doesn't work if you use your axe primarily for the block attack

[lethal plover]

we do use the default attack for mutants, and heavy on crushers

but right that in a horde we often don't use combos

[gray island]

brittle is nice since its group based rending. I think headtaker or maybe even limbsplitter is you're exclusively block attacking would also be good

[signal turret]

true but i'd rather have a blessing that works 100% of the time vs 2%

[lethal plover]

when do you think some youtube is gonna popularize axe psyker or has it happened already

[frigid sparrow]

So, if I'm animation canceling the surge staff, does the blessing for increased charge rate for chained attacks still count?

[signal turret]

as long as we keep deflecting to power sword being op we might be safe

[cyan notch]

bb should have a special attack where u just punch with your hands

[signal turret]

Headtaker doesn't work either. Limbsplitter might but I dont have the blessing to try it

[gray island]

honestly that is negitively effecting you since its building peril up faster with minimal damage bonus, i would avoid that blessing on surge staff

[lethal plover]

true the best psyop may be to play along with the public and yell about how psykers are weak and vets are OP

[frigid sparrow]

I want the peril.

[signal turret]

This is the way.

[lethal plover]

I guess we have come full circle

Psykers are weak now

[signal turret]

The weakest!

[flat shadow]

This is hard because the force push doesn't really knock people back they just fall over

[gray island]

that seems broken since the power buff is supposed to last 3.5 you'd think you'd be able to stack. but i have 0 luck on even getting the axe. living the FS life atm

[frigid sparrow]

Mage class confirmed weak, everyone go play vet.

[tender cipher]

Psykers are so weak that the login screen boots them.

[flat shadow]

the secret is to not use the staff and put all your buffs into your brain burst

[hearty wave]

server error priority

[gray island]

Gun psykers unite

[flat shadow]

I use the laspistol

I like dodging

[lethal plover]

Did you know laspistol oneshots plague ogryn

[flat shadow]

how

[gray island]

hit ogren in head it die

[flat shadow]

Pew

the revolver kinda stinky

Why are the poxbursters so tanky

[signal turret]

The few, the proud 🫡

[flat shadow]

5 shots with the revolver

I need to do scripture stuff for my weeklies but nobody is joining my lobbies

[lethal plover]

tanky eh

[gray island]

the lasgun

[flat shadow]

I mean if I'm ready for them I've already charged my brain burst

otherwise oh brutha

[gray island]

RMB BB is heresy

[flat shadow]

Why

[gray island]

you can be swinging axe during that

[flat shadow]

The rest of my team would hopefully be doing something useful

These bots suck I wish they at least used cover

[potent echo]

just go monka

s push

[flat shadow]

I'm waiting so I can get quicken

then I will get the one that gives me 6 charges of warp charge

[ruby merlin]

@lethal plover Yeah I think the vast majority of psykers in the game just don't know the potential of the class because they blindly follow guides, and everyone goes for flavor when writing said guides (and they don't actually know the class).

Like the axe is super slept on outside of discord because it doesn't look fancy lol.

and people ignore peril block because it doesn't glow or something lol.

To be fair, most people are probably on malice or below, and don't even know what the block key is yet XD

[potent echo]

peril block doesnt sound amazing until you use it and see every hit give you like 1%

[ruby merlin]

The fact that psyker enhances base game mechanics just makes it super strong in the hands of someone who's skilled with the basics. Waiting for that psyker true solo damnation endless horde :P.

@potent echo when I read that perk I knew I instantly had to go for it.

[potent echo]

mutants make any solo run kind of impossible ngl

[ruby merlin]

Because I knew passive quell was a thing, and blocking is basically your default state in vt2

Nah, you can avoid all mutants 100% of the time

as long as you dodge slide

[potent echo]

like a horde with 3 ragers chasing you?

[ruby merlin]

Yep

it's entirely possible

[potent echo]

and you cant kill them tho

[tardy flower]

yea just dodge everything

[ruby merlin]

You can with the axe

[potent echo]

they run past you

[ruby merlin]

just 4 light attacks

and it's dead

[potent echo]

what if 2 mutant

[ruby merlin]

the axe does 1.1k dps on a mutant with no perks

you'll just dodge and clear the horde first

[potent echo]

nice

[ruby merlin]

then melee down mutants, it's 100% doable.

[potent echo]

just dodge everything

[floral solstice]

What do psykers use for dps vs monstrosities on damnation, bb spam or just slap it at melee?,

[potent echo]

ez game trust me bro

[ruby merlin]

Look at the true solo at cata 3+

[wooden nest]

anyone can tell me which achievements you need for Kinetic Slayer(3)?

[ruby merlin]

it's basically how it works lol

[potent echo]

vt2 is so dif assassins die in 1 hit

can be staggered

leeches can be dodged even if you are blind

[ruby merlin]

I mean mutants are so loud

and you can easily dodge them once you get the audio down.

[potent echo]

itheres no sound cue for the dodge timing

you have to see the hand

[bright cipher]

The principle is the same. Play slow, don't get greedy, it's always better to dodge or block than to get some dmg in.

[left hare]

I visually see the dodge cue for mutant

[ruby merlin]

You can just dodge slide half the time, and mutants aren't a 100% death when they grab you either.

[left hare]

Also dodge to the left

[ruby merlin]

J_sat will probably do it eventually.

[potent echo]

in solo? they are

[ruby merlin]

Nope, I've come back from being grabbed by a mutant, while 3 down and me being the last one.

they throw you

[left hare]

Mutant grab gives iframes if ur in the wall i feel

[bright cipher]

Three slams and a throw that doesn't do dmg

[potent echo]

depends on how they grab you sometimes they just throw

[ruby merlin]

I'm certainly not good enough to true solo atm, but I'm betting one of those legendary vt2 players will do it eventually

[potent echo]

or they take 1/3 of your hp

[left hare]

If u hug wall its always throw

[bright cipher]

They will throw if they don't have room to slam you

[ruby merlin]

And you'll need some luck in that run of course.

[potent echo]

pray if theres no flamer nearby they do the charger/spitter l4d2 combo

[bleak sonnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046869613998252163/1050285648235462686/A845HyjjAmB3AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png
kinda a pog lasgun

[faint walrus]

Didn't realise there was a proper queue for mutants

[ruby merlin]

Flamers die very fast to the axe at least via push attacks.

[left hare]

Not light attacks?

[ruby merlin]

In the middle of a horde

[left hare]

I didnt check damage numbers

Ah

[worthy wasp]

Bruh

[ruby merlin]

Light attacks are stronger for sure

[worthy wasp]

Zealot players are a bunch of dumb fucks

[ruby merlin]

but in the middle sometimes you just slide up to them and push attack on them

I have no clue why the axe is so strong vs mutants though, the dps is crazy

[signal turret]

Got lucky and got thunderous and limbsplitter in this shop rotation. Limbsplitter doesnt appear to work on MK V block attack, thunderous most def does

[left hare]

Its cos mutants arent armored

[ruby merlin]

each hit does like 1k damage to the head.

Gotcha

[left hare]

They are flesh

[worthy wasp]

No contest, legit if I pulled 1000 zealots into a room, 999 of em would be massive dumbfucks

[left hare]

So light attack spam is more efficient

Heavy attack is for armored

[ruby merlin]

Yep, I only heavy maulers and ogryns.

[spiral remnant]

does anybody have pictures of high rating staves?

they bring me great happiness

[ruby merlin]

And yeah zealot is that class that can have a very high skill ceiling

[left hare]

But honestly if u do light attack spam it actually takes one more hit normally

[ruby merlin]

But the vast majority of them are kinda stupid.

At the same time I facepalm when I see psykers die to hordes 😛

[left hare]

5 lights vs 4 heavies for a mauler

[spiral remnant]

common symptom of gun psyker

[south zephyr]

tfw you ask the group if it's cool if you self-delete on top of 3 elites, they say sure, but then proceed to annihilate every single special 😐

[left hare]

I actually havent checked if void strike has cc

Does void strike stagger ogryn

Or everything below ogryn

[worthy wasp]

Bruh getting 2 zealots on team:

"Ahh look, theres 8 active specials and 20 elites, better go help the other zealot spam dagger attacks at the horde"

[signal turret]

Mind the dust

[left hare]

Or everything unarmored

[bleak sonnet]

sad that its a purg

[signal turret]

I know 😭

[magic hull]

no? thats great its a purge

[signal turret]

here we go

[magic hull]

holy shit damn

[magic hull]

gimme

[spiral remnant]

oo lalala

[signal turret]

if I could give it away I would lol

[magic hull]

bruhh

[south zephyr]

Antax or Atrox for axe?

[spiral remnant]

man i love purgastus

[left hare]

Antax

100#

Need to go test void strike later

See if it ccs anything

[bleak sonnet]

i have a 380 grey purge laying around

[signal turret]

My void will also collect dust, it's a mid roll tho

[bleak sonnet]

maybe theyll buff it eventually

[spiral remnant]

terrifying barrage and warp flurry might actually be the best combo for it

you dont use purgastus?

damn shame

[signal turret]

I'd rather just play my level 8 zealot with a flamer than use purg

[left hare]

Doesnt help against 50% of the things that wipe u

[spiral remnant]

:C

not wrong

but especially on maps like the fab

[left hare]

It helps with mixed hordes and if u catch ranged off guard

[spiral remnant]

it's super helpful to do most of the cleaning for hordes

[random snow]

Purgatus is dope but flamer is 100x better

[south zephyr]

would guess purge is a nice mix of horde clear and cc, probably the best boss damage staff as well

[spiral remnant]

and let your teammates focus specials and elites

[left hare]

You are correct actually

[random snow]

Needs to be buffed

[left hare]

The dot stacks to very good levels

[spiral remnant]

i think people overestimate surge staff

[left hare]

Just maintain burn and u do about 190 per tick

[spiral remnant]

not enough targets or cc, even tho the stun is fantastic

[signal turret]

375 Purg, 361 Void, meanwhile my staff that gets 99.9% of usage....

[left hare]

Reduced by armor tho

[signal turret]

hate to see it

game hates me

[spiral remnant]

man... you got a whole collection

[magic hull]

ur lucky af to have the purg wdym

[cyan notch]

380 trauma next

[bleak sonnet]

380 purge, 220 void (hate it), 375 trauma, 368 surge

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046869613998252163/1050285648235462686/A845HyjjAmB3AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png

this gets all my usage

LOL

[magic hull]

this my purge slightly lower

[signal turret]

I swear I ran a damnation with you lol

[spiral remnant]

i rolled a legendary head hunter yessterday from a random random sire melk's recommendation

[south zephyr]

current surge staff

[bleak sonnet]

maybe

ign aleksandr

on my psyker

[spiral remnant]

how did you get such a high rating on that stave?

the item shop?

[random snow]

Did they take out infernus blessing on XII’s?

[spiral remnant]

or emperor's gifts

[signal turret]

idr the name, all I know was that I laughed when I saw a gun psyker in damnation, and laughed again when we successfully finished with mid-diff lol

[magic hull]

I rolled it

[bleak sonnet]

hey man

[spiral remnant]

err

[bleak sonnet]

gun psyk sllaps

[spiral remnant]

wdym

[bleak sonnet]

my gun shreds, 20% to flak 20% to cara

[spiral remnant]

blehhh

[magic hull]

bought from item shoo then i consecrate (upgrade) it

[spiral remnant]

ah got it

[left hare]

I still doubt the force sword

[signal turret]

god damn god roll on those stats since charge rate is irrelevant 😦

[left hare]

Although it is extremely safe with deflector

[signal turret]

trade my purg for it

[magic hull]

its dogshit

[random snow]

Dueling Sword feels amazing

[robust meteor]

i dont like using force sword but when it has deflector its kind of a game changer in clutch situations

[spiral remnant]

may i ask, how did you get such a high modifier rating from the gear shop? I usually only get like 360-365 maximum

[magic hull]

i rather use an axe

[bleak sonnet]

rng

[spiral remnant]

😭

[magic hull]

look for the base stat

[signal turret]

persistence, rng, not splitting poles or stepping on cracks

[bleak sonnet]

i have like 4-5 370+ laspistols in my inv :P

[left hare]

Charge rate for surge doesnt exist

[spiral remnant]

tragic.

[left hare]

So aim for high stats everywhere else

[bleak sonnet]

laspistol isnt even bad ngl

[magic hull]

for example if u find a redeemed (t2) item at 400+ rating, its fucking good

[left hare]

For purg mainly cloud size and burn damage

[bleak sonnet]

just ammo sucks

[robust meteor]

purge staff is for vape lords. gotta get that cloud

[magic hull]

if you find annointed (t1) at 380, you better snatch that shit

[spiral remnant]

😭

366 is the highest i've got

[signal turret]

Was looking through my inv and didnt even know I had this lol

[spiral remnant]

wtf

upgrade that shit

[signal turret]

No

[spiral remnant]

why 😭

it could be a god staff

[signal turret]

Surge Staff Supremacy

[night marten]

it's a nice purge staff

[spiral remnant]

25 rating perk and 380 base modifier

[robust meteor]

upgrade it get reported

or get reported

[spiral remnant]

one of the best perks for void strike

dear god

[marble terrace]

I keep getting guns, thank god for 1-2 staffs 😂

[spiral remnant]

pain...

[south zephyr]

btw, stack health or toughness on psyker?

[bleak sonnet]

what are the rolls on that la infantry

[bright cipher]

Toughness and +1 wounds

[south zephyr]

k, that's what I figured, thanks

[spiral remnant]

oh my lord

[bleak sonnet]

you should try a game with that thing

[civic tendon]

I saw the fast lasgun with infernus. Looks like so much fun

[marble terrace]

Ill be honest, since getting staves, havent looked back at guns! No idea why I havent experimented with them

[robust meteor]

i throw in a +3 stam

[night marten]

using a staff is more fun if you're interesting in a magic class

[left hare]

Playing psyker but not using staves

[magic hull]

shit accidentally delete

[spiral remnant]

🤤

[bleak sonnet]

my only warhammer mini is a librarian with a bolter

[left hare]

Rashed i sleep

[bleak sonnet]

:P

[south zephyr]

Rashad or Antax?

[bleak sonnet]

antaxc

is best

rashad isnt bad tho

[south zephyr]

does it cleave well, or just a powerhouse that 1 taps heads?

[magic hull]

antax is best

[marble terrace]

I do feel quite biased towards using staffs. Doesnt mean guns dont work though 😮

[bleak sonnet]

ngl thats

[magic hull]

2 hit elite axe

[bleak sonnet]

a pretty bad antax

[magic hull]

looks bad on paper

but from my experience

pretty good

[bleak sonnet]

theyre all pretty good but the first target is super important imo

[left hare]

Yes first target is very important on antax

[magic hull]

yeah well it doesnt really matter if i 1-2 hit any of them lmao

[bleak sonnet]

it makes a big dif vs armor

:P

[magic hull]

1-2 hit bruh

[left hare]

Changes number of hits required for heavy armor target

On lighter targets doesnt change things

[bleak sonnet]

yea

[signal turret]

What do y'all think... Upgrade the right because brutal momentum or wait for crafting to upgrade the left and change blessings

[left hare]

Power on hit is nuts

[bleak sonnet]

trash perks on right

[magic hull]

yeh should be aight

[bleak sonnet]

left big

[left hare]

Left is huge

[bleak sonnet]

brutal is nice but

not that nice

[signal turret]

[magic hull]

axe master race

[south zephyr]

so why axe over force sword?

[signal turret]

Less sweaty horde clearing

[magic hull]

higher damage and head hit more common

[civic tendon]

Everyone realizing 🪓 is good this week is a psyop

[bleak sonnet]

people are sheep here man

[signal turret]

What did you say about psyker being undertuned and vets needing a nerf?

[bleak sonnet]

we were saying axe was good before the wave and getting shit talked

24/7

same with gun psyker

[magic hull]

huh? when?

[cyan notch]

i am gonna use force sword cuz it looks cool

[bleak sonnet]

in beta bro

lol

[magic hull]

ive been using axe since beta bruh

[bleak sonnet]

damn bruh

well u were smart

lots of people werent

[magic hull]

that axe ui showed u i got aince level 27 or smthing

still look for a high base stat one

[signal turret]

in my defense I got a deflector FS early so axe was a hard sell for awhile

after I tried it I couldnt look back

[south zephyr]

of all the axes I tried, I preferred the antax, but that was on zealot

never thought to to use on psyker

[civic tendon]

So many crap weapons in the store. Too slow of a drip

[signal turret]

still not buying gun psyker tho sorry lol

[magic hull]

u clear horde with antax by block attack

[worthy wasp]

Antax MkV is the best, Atrox Mk2 is also v good

[magic hull]

very good

[south monolith]

Axe is more like playing bardin and FS is more like WHC. Just in the mobility aspect

[amber echo]

FS sexy animations >> OP axe

[bleak sonnet]

didnt you say you played with one in damn and did fine

:P

[signal turret]

Hell no lol, I was the surge chad, the other psyker was the virgin gun

[worthy wasp]

Gun psyker tho doesnt sound optimal

But

I do see how it can work

[bleak sonnet]

you guys should stop talking based on what "sounds" good or bad

try it

then talk about it

:P

[worthy wasp]

Psyker is a strong base class

[bright pike]

gun psyker supreme staff psyker doodoo >:3c

gn all

[signal turret]

Psyker is undertuned and needs a buff, nerf vets and power swords

[bleak sonnet]

gn!

[worthy wasp]

Not saying its bad, it just works because how strong psyker is at base

[bleak sonnet]

it works because the lasgun is OP

at base

[worthy wasp]

It can make anything work due to a combination of talents

[near wyvern]

I guess the point of gun psyker is that you never have to manually quell?

[magic hull]

lasgun isnt bad but i prefer letting vets taking ammo

[bleak sonnet]

every game we get like

[worthy wasp]

Wtf are you quelling if you use non-force melee with a gun?

[bleak sonnet]

3-4 ammo kits

[near wyvern]

Which one, the torrent or the slow firing one?

[worthy wasp]

Theres nothing to quell

[civic tendon]

I played axe in damnation earlier. We were doing so well until we went into that vertical tight building in the desert level. Ogryn ran into a 3 elite gun nest and then said "cohesion..." on the game over screen

[bleak sonnet]

12

[magic hull]

im lazy, so looking for ammo isn't my preference lol

[bleak sonnet]

i use FS with my gun loadout usually

pairs better

[magic hull]

skill issue? not really just looking for ammo issue lol

[near wyvern]

I'll pick one up and give it a go for trying to do pick n mix with BB

[signal turret]

Anyone else notice antax light attacks do more dmg than heavies?

im confused

[lethal plover]

what if you play damnation pubs

[magic hull]

they all head hits

heavy attack is actually similar to light for mk5

[signal turret]

true let my try bodies

[lethal plover]

I don't think FS is gonna cut it because you will be handling melee a lot

[bleak sonnet]

whatever i have equipped at the time probably

lol

i dont put too much thought into it

[magic hull]

FS is crowd control and melee peril

isnt it

[bleak sonnet]

no rzn to min max until T6

t5 is a joke most of the time

[junior anvil]

Just played with @bleak sonnet , can confirm. Witch sees heretic, shoots heretic

[lethal plover]

yeah, just can't actually clear zombies with ragers mixed in

[magic hull]

yeah long time animation

[bleak sonnet]

sup glow

:P

[junior anvil]

ay yo

[magic hull]

thats why i usually always recommend antax

shits versatile man

[civic tendon]

Glow what's the best class

[lethal plover]

which is why I recommend trauma

[wooden nest]

Gun bros, should I try to upgrade this?

[bleak sonnet]

yeah pretty good rolls

mobi doesnt matter at all on it

lol

[signal turret]

Heresy...

[junior anvil]

@civic tendon Best for? Just performance? Probably Vet

[civic tendon]

I've been falling asleep to 40k lore videos. Strange dreams haha

[junior anvil]

Oh man you're gonna have all kinds of Warp dreams

the man is become true psyker

[white badger]

People are running psykers with guns? Why?

That is a really good lasgun, tho, heh

[shadow quail]

the recon is really good

[lethal plover]

I prefer XII
Oneshots sniper instead of waiting