psyker-class

[supple skiff]

not to be reductive but a lot of the horus heresy was just lorgar on some notice me senpai shit

not that much of a stretch lol

[royal granite]

a cursory google has told me that yes, more than one 40k dating sim already exists

[wise pecan]

Any techpriest ones?

[lethal plover]

[pure rapids]

officially licensed by GW????

[supple skiff]

Ive seen some of what gets licensed, wouldnt surprise me

[royal granite]

lmao no

[pure rapids]

exactly

so not anyone

[lethal plover]

you can also write a 40k fan fiction where humans get to combat the tyranids with psychic technology against the hive mind
and make it an RTS game

[pure rapids]

there's a line they don't cross

[royal granite]

i'm sure it's just because they didn't think to ask

[pure rapids]

maybe

[supple skiff]

If GW sees dollar signs they're there

[stiff swallow]

Which duelling sword is the best?

[royal granite]

listen that american chicken fastfood place got an official dating sim, it's not off the table

[teal cargo]

Hmm if using Quietude do you use Peril resist?

or just the dmg from more peril?

[burnt python]

the rare good vendor item

[supple skiff]

holy terra thats cursed

[bleak tulip]

always use peril resist tbh

[lethal plover]

honestly I wouldn't bother with quietitude

[bleak tulip]

you stil lget plenty enough peril to keep your toughness up

[teal cargo]

I see

[bleak tulip]

all it does it give you more uptime

[lethal plover]

when you need toughness the most, is when you don't have leisure to quell

[royal granite]

is quietude any good? i tried it once but it was when i was pretty new to the game

[wise pecan]

I suppose you could technically interpret Warhammer 40k: Mechanicus as a dating sim

[autumn lark]

Hmm seems like a teaser to more content dropping soon

[bleak tulip]

thats what F is for

[teal cargo]

Quietude pretty good you get toughness for passive quell and using ult

[stiff swallow]

Where are the toasters

[bleak tulip]

or a force sword

[sick veldt]

thanks for not letting us preview cosmetics fatshark you guys are da best

[pure rapids]

doesn't it work with passive quelling

generate a bunch of peril

[burnt python]

if you use a non-force sword melee quietitude is very good

[pure rapids]

swap to non-force melee

[glossy grotto]

anyone here got a good build? Vets are better at everything apart from stagger with electric staff

[teal cargo]

Yea free toughness with Kinetic Deflection and passive quell

block things, get peril, passive quell and get toughness

[hot tulip]

LUL

also the hoods we get from penances and the ingame currency cosmetics (the black top) actually slap harder than the bought cosmetics rn

[burnt python]

none of the toughness traits are compatible w/ gun build :/

[teal cargo]

💀

[hot tulip]

no because you shouldn't BE running guns on psyker lmao

[stiff swallow]

On what planet is this useful?

[royal granite]

the worthiest purchase from the aquila store is the bomber jacket for veterans, not much else

[pure rapids]

your best bet is the 10% BB and toughness regen on warp charge gain

[teal cargo]

Gun build sounds like play Vet

[bleak tulip]

because gun build is pretty bad

[supple skiff]

paid psyker cosemtics rn are hard to look at

[burnt python]

my shop says otherwise lol

[bleak tulip]

when you have deflector on force sword

[royal granite]

it's incredible

[supple skiff]

that one set looks like something out of a lame 50's scifi movie

[teal cargo]

Sadly mine do too

[wise hemlock]

I have two Void staffs, one does slightly less base damage but one has +4 elite damage the other stronger one has +4 weak spot dam ?

[elder rivet]

best perk

[hot tulip]

sucks to be you, at least the shop rotates every 30 mins or so lol

[lethal plover]

I have met gun psykers on damnation
they say it's the answer against the gunmen for vets because psykers can already handle everything else

[stiff swallow]

[burnt python]

it just gave me a dope void staff but void is kinda ass on damnation

[teal cargo]

One of tge best psyker perks

[main jay]

Guys what curio's are you all going for? I'm quite confused what to aim for. Surge Staff+Force Sword block Ranged build.

[royal granite]

the shop rotates once an hour on the hour

[burnt python]

hp

[main jay]

I'm going 20 HP / 20 Tough / 1 Wound but what substats?

[teal cargo]

whats wrong with void?

[wise hemlock]

Is damage to elite perk by 4 prefferable to +4 ranged weak spot

[royal granite]

i just go for +wounds and corruption resist for curios, all the other benefits are really small

[teal cargo]

You still just blow up hordes and all

[lethal plover]

I don't use guns but the fact those guys on damnation seem to know what they are doing lend credence to the idea

[sick veldt]

it's every hour

[teal cargo]

I just do + Wounds

[burnt python]

hordes aren't really a big threat, any decent melee handles them

[hot tulip]

feels like every 30 after you finish a 20 min run tru, it is one hour

[bleak tulip]

its the most damage you can do on damnation so tough luck

[sick veldt]

it would still be a terrible terrible system if the shop reset after every mission but at least it would be faster and encourage actually playing the game

[stiff swallow]

mmm bricks

[static epoch]

stam regen, block efficiency, damage res gunners if you have to peek them for bb,

[burnt python]

no it's not lol. trauma, guns, melee all way better dmg

[teal cargo]

You can still do pretty good vs gunners

Wtf using Trauma??

[lofty walrus]

bruh

[modest magnet]

Broooooo he using trauma?

[lethal plover]

a trauma enjoyer?

[bleak tulip]

if you play gun psyker on damnation I feel for your team mates tbh

[teal cargo]

Wild Trauma enjoyer

[burnt python]

trauma value goes up w/ horde density and mixed hordes

[teal cargo]

secret tech?

[burnt python]

it generates too much peril but other than t hat its fuckin dope

[bleak tulip]

so does void

[lethal plover]

we could learn from your recording

[burnt python]

trauma knocks down ogryns and does waaaaay more dmg than void

[night ermine]

I think health is best for psyker.

Why ahve extra wounds when a single hit removes most your hp or decent corruption hit removes an entire wound without going down.

More hp = less chance of going down and with frequent medicare stations the extra wounds are just wasted.

[teal cargo]

I overload i like 2 casts with Trauma

[lofty walrus]

it fans out the horde though

[burnt python]

also on a good roll the aoe is massive on trauma

[supple skiff]

spamming rmb void is ez surpression

[lethal plover]

knocks down crushers, eh

[burnt python]

it knocks down everything thats not a monstrosity, if your team holds chokes its really good

[hot garnet]

trauma staff

[stiff swallow]

Idk, i like using my staff and i usually push enemies away

[teal cargo]

But you cast like 2or 3 times and overload

[bleak tulip]

if your team holds chokes a lot of things are really good, including void, and even purg tbh

[stiff swallow]

Just like my friends

[teal cargo]

and kncok all the enemies behind you

[hot tulip]

if you are gunpsykering in damnation you are sandbagging hard

and the people that post their gunpsykers on youtube doing damnation after getting carried by vet will just make everyone try it resulting in so many pug lobbies just dying and losing more often lol

[burnt python]

right, but trauma is better in that scenario

[teal cargo]

Hmmm maybe

[bleak tulip]

disagree actually

[wise pecan]

Fanning out the horde is bad though

[burnt python]

trauma is the only staff that does meaningful elite dmg

[opaque temple]

no BB buff in patch hearts my heart
my soul even

[candid temple]

uhh what

[lofty walrus]

yeah sorry that's what I meant, spreads out the horde and is bad**

[opaque temple]

voidstrike can hit quite hard

[lethal plover]

I summon @bleak sonnet

[bleak tulip]

lets say thats a disagree from me there homie

[teal cargo]

at least we still got kinetic deflection

[royal granite]

voidstrike can hit weakspots

[hot tulip]

oh no no no no

[burnt python]

play what you like just sharing my experiences

[candid temple]

in what reality does trauma do meaningful elite damage?
You get fucked on peril so hard

[teal cargo]

Maybe this is secret tech

[opaque temple]

voidstrike at head level really hurts.

[wise pecan]

Surge actually does decent damage to most elites I think? Since they’re basically all armored, and surge does extra armor damage

[candid temple]

like you could fullcharge voidstrike at heads for big numbers easily.

[teal cargo]

Trauma uses sooo much peril

[royal granite]

the only trauma i've seen do any real damage is my childhood trauma

[burnt python]

not in damnation, it feels weak

[opaque temple]

hits like a truck in comparison

[teal cargo]

and surge does good dmg vs elites

[opaque temple]

disagree

[teal cargo]

how bout surge? You zap flak armor to death fast

[near gale]

Surge also stops muties in their place.

[burnt python]

surge is bad for mixed horde dmg because you have 0 control over target choice

[candid temple]

doubt

[supple skiff]

surge also has that animation cancell thing going for it rn

[burnt python]

surge is still the best staff, but not for that

[bleak tulip]

idk man

[hot tulip]

most mixed hordes get sighted by the entire team and softened up easily anyways

[royal granite]

mediocre surge

[bleak tulip]

also you get three traumas off and youre full on peril

[hot tulip]

then u zap zap zap

[cold oasis]

The problem with Trauma is the insane Peril cost

[opaque temple]

i meant voidstrike

[night marten]

I think purge does respectable damage

[cold oasis]

If they fix that, Trauma could be a decent enough weapon

[magic gull]

if void cant weakpoint hit so easily i'd take trauma .

[opaque temple]

to what?

[burnt python]

yup peril is the issue, i play melee heavy anyways so ijust let it passive quell and pull out as needed

[pure rapids]

exactly my point against surge

[near gale]

Aren't surge's two weakest things hordes and range?

[teal cargo]

yea look at that flak and carapace dmg, is no joke

[supple skiff]

wasn't aware that surge did more to armored targets

[cold oasis]

Surge deals good damage only on Armored

[lethal plover]

heh
you know what
the psyker meta is way more interesting discussion than vet meta which is already quite settled

[royal granite]

eh, the numbers on trauma aren't bad at least

[supple turtle]

What're some good feats to pair with Purgatus staff?

[night marten]

on a call, will get back to you

[hot tulip]

idk why people dont know that- you can literally one zap no charge with surge armored traitor guards or scabs as they call it

[royal granite]

this is a 40% damage staff, got it from the empra

[hot tulip]

and thats even if you dont crit

thats insane

[candid temple]

minimal peril cost with a poor damage roll voidstaff (59%) vs 80% trauma:

[burnt python]

near max trauma dmg rolls

[wise pecan]

“Power sword+bolter/kantrael”?

[lethal plover]

oh hey it does knock down

[teal cargo]

idk how people not notice tbh you zap some enemies to death immediately

[burnt python]

it knocks down anything thats not a monstrosity

[candid temple]

void stumbles them, which is better

[lethal plover]

basically yeah, though shotgun and plasma for some other players

[candid temple]

your vet/you can aim for head.

[royal granite]

give psyker a bolt pistol

[opaque temple]

muties?

[candid temple]

80%'er?

[pure rapids]

the none selected ones are personal preference

[burnt python]

good call forgot bout them

does not kd muties

[supple turtle]

Thank you

[bleak tulip]

only 78 😔

[royal granite]

trauma staff from the previous screenshot

404 damage for 50% peril?

[bleak tulip]

cant find a better one for the life of me

[candid temple]

the bigger issue is peril cost for trauma, it has ass range without full charge.

[royal granite]

you're joking

[candid temple]

meanwhile void railguns through most things

and staggers them

[teal cargo]

How bout Kinetic overload or Warp Battery with Ascending Blaze?

[cold oasis]

Trauma needs the Peril halved to be useful

[lethal plover]

can you show damage on crushers in meat grinder

700~800 ?

[burnt python]

void is the most fun to use imo, i want to like it badly, but in damnation it just isn't impactful wheen shit is hitting the fan, it's a "win more" staff for when things are going smoothly

[bleak tulip]

void goes through an approaching horde and still does that damage to the crusher

[unkempt juniper]

trauma needs the peril halved and the aoe ring needs to show full damage aoe as well as min dmg aoe

[magic gull]

chosing trauma/void cuz they looks/sounds like are doing alot dmg

[burnt python]

sure give me like 30 mins still on the clock

[wise pecan]

counterpoint: kintetic flayer is highly redundant on an ascendant blaze build. take warp battery instead. you fill your warp stacks just as fast, but now your F does like quadruple the damage

[royal granite]

i don't know what's going on with the numbers here but trauma isn't hitting for what the stat page says it should be

[pure rapids]

but I'd still recommend the following
lvl 10: Psykinetic's Wrath / Inner Tranquility
lvl 20: Kinetic Deflection / Kinetic Shield

[candid temple]

80% trauma numbers.

I am not getting 760 dmg on crushers.

[lethal plover]

bug?

[candid temple]

#numbersarealie

[bleak tulip]

none of the staves are there for elite damage thats what BB is meant to do but it does it poorly so yeah

all of the staves are primarily trash clear or CC

[teal cargo]

Why not Kinetic overload to increase soul blaze stacks 👀

[candid temple]

headshotting with void rails, kills majority of elites in 1-2 blasts

[royal granite]

THIS MOTHERFUCKER BLOCKS TRAUMA LMAO

[wise pecan]

hahahahahahahahaha

[pure rapids]

Warp Battery I'd understand but Kinetic Overload is just bad for me

[royal granite]

what a shitass staff

[vernal frigate]

Surgechads stay winning

[candid temple]

mmm you aim front or back?

[royal granite]

aiming at the back

[tight sierra]

Kinetic barrage now gives 3 charges of faster casted triple brain bursts

[candid temple]

hmm

I could knock him

circle can't go infront of shield

wait

lmaaaaao

what

[pure rapids]

honestly for me I see more warp charges with Kinetic Flayer than just Psychic Communion and Ascending Blaze

[near gale]

Hm, my voidstrike staff's charged shot does more damage to the head of maulers...

[pure rapids]

and with how the pugs I see keep wailing at already dying hordes

[bleak tulip]

• as long as the vet actually kills the shit youre stunning you mean

[pure rapids]

I lose the charge generation with Ascending Blaze

[candid temple]

basically if circle even touches shield hitbox or something, it does no dmg

[lethal plover]

the fact that we are having an actual trauma discussion is what makes psyker meta so interesting

[candid temple]

10/10 staff

the discussion is how ass it is

[wise pecan]

this is a fair point. up to taste, i suppose

[royal granite]

i'm starting to think trauma is bugged, this staff is hitting every armour type for 404 damage

[pure rapids]

404 damage not found

[royal granite]

sometimes less

[candid temple]

mm I get 286 on dog

with full charge

[teal cargo]

maybe in a match its a lot better?

[royal granite]

i get 277 on dog, 415 on a crusher

[burnt python]

my trauma is hitting 550 on crusher

[candid temple]

mmm, what perks/talents?

[burnt python]

498 w/o warp charges

nothing that effects dmg

[candid temple]

on the staff

[burnt python]

aha, 20% carpace

[bleak tulip]

man thats a lotta peril tho

tbh

[royal granite]

oh my damage is variable because i have psykinetic's wrath

duh

still, the variance is only a few tens

[livid dirge]

does crit on surge really even matter?

[pure rapids]

but sheesh that much peril generation

big yikes

[haughty flame]

Took me 3 days of fisting my table and raging but its finally done

[lethal plover]

file a bug report

the damage table is lying to us

[royal granite]

i do not have the energy to file a bug report

[supple skiff]

404 utility not found

[lethal plover]

if trauma actually does 800 damage to crushers as advertised, I could start to see it being used

[royal granite]

especially when i know the answer is going to be something like "oh the damage calculations are just too complicated to explain"

[candid temple]

classic fatshark

[burnt python]

im w ondering if this is a psykanarium bug

[candid temple]

also there's no big unarmored enemy in psykerium

[burnt python]

trauma feels more impactful vs ragers and specials in game, but going by psyk it is straight ass

[summer wind]

buy it?

[candid temple]

mmm, half-charge+ void staggers them enough

to stop their charge

[burnt python]

aint talkin bout the stagger just the dmg

[candid temple]

hmm

sure would be great if we had modded realm with damage numbers in-game.

could actually bugtest this shit

[pure rapids]

dedicated servers are a mistake

[burnt python]

also trauma full knocks down crusher on about 1/2 charge

[teal cargo]

sure would be nice to have a lotta things in Darktide

that we had in VT2

[bleak tulip]

its not bad if thats better than what you have

[royal granite]

@candid temple i know this is kinda out of the blue, but is your pfp a reference to the Neuromancer cover art?

[bleak tulip]

crap blessing unfortunately

[teal cargo]

Like not having to be on 24/7 and hope can buu a good weapon

[royal granite]

this one

[burnt python]

also voidstrike is currently bugged and generating way less peril than intended on charges

[near gale]

For hordes with the force sword do I want light, heavy, block cancel, rinse and repeat?

[teal cargo]

it is?

[burnt python]

it is using hte lmb peril modifier instead of charge modifier

[candid temple]

it's a reference to the artist who made the neuromancer cover art for uhh, somewhere in south america? :p

[hybrid thicket]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/3634998185434845118?l=english#:~:text=Fixed an issue that caused the Surge Forcestaff to kill players if pushed above 80%25 peril they finally did u surge boys right

[lethal plover]

EL FUCKING MAO

[livid dirge]

is this worth upgrading? not sure if the low crit is bad or not

[teal cargo]

So Void will be nerfed soon?

[lofty walrus]

who filed this

[candid temple]

https://www.artstation.com/josan :p

[lethal plover]

voidstrike being peril efficient is actually a bug

[hybrid thicket]

run n gun kinda poopoo

[supple skiff]

lol thats what the class needs more nerfs

[lofty walrus]

its ok restore peril on headshot should be able to still keep up

[royal granite]

oh, same artist?

rad

[candid temple]

ya

[hot garnet]

not the best blessing i wouldnt bother personally but up to you

[burnt python]

i'm convincned that restore peril trait is bugged too lmao

[candid temple]

he made some cool cyberpunk stuff too

[burnt python]

it's gotta be like 10% chance or some other hidden modifier

[teal cargo]

Yikes so expecting Psyker nerfs soon?

[lethal plover]

it would be hilarious to see after bugs are fixed people actually use trauma instead of void

[hot tulip]

[candid temple]

soon? no.

[supple skiff]

better come packed with a BB buff

[candid temple]

3-6 months, in a big patch, probbly.

[teal cargo]

yea weak point peril restore seems like restores way more than expected

[hybrid thicket]

only buff bb needs is decreased cast time ong

[burnt python]

the one positive to traumas absurd peril gen is the synergy w/ quietitude on a melee focus setup

[candid temple]

Hmmh, I'm also tempted to make a new psyker that's taller.

[burnt python]

i basically spam trauma to full peril then go to town w/ axe

[teal cargo]

thas true Quietude synergy 😆

[near gale]

Imagine if it charged 33% faster for 66% of the current peril cost.

[burnt python]

back step and quick charge a trauma as needed for cc in melee combat

also being elevated increases trauma range drastically

[lethal plover]

psyker meta

[burnt python]

im coping over here

[supple skiff]

we all are

[burnt python]

im gonna be so mad when i try this fucking mk 12 las gun and it blows staves out of the water

[supple skiff]

the hoops we have to jump through just to mimic bolters power

[lofty walrus]

I mean not having to hunt for ammo is a perk in and of itself

[burnt python]

ammo is never really an issue tho

[lethal plover]

bolters aren't even that great on damnation. gunmen are a bigger threat, so XII for me, bolter is secondary if lasgun is already taken

[supple skiff]

true

[near gale]

I'm not sure I like the voidstrike staff... feels like a nerfed fireball staff, as far as the aoe goes.

[burnt python]

thats exactly what it is lol

[candid temple]

mmm

well no.

[supple skiff]

less about the impact explosion and more the penetration

[candid temple]

Thing is, you have to think of voidstaff as a railgun.

[bleak tulip]

Go to the Psykhanum
Equip any Voidstrike Staff
Charge and unleash a Secondary Attack
Note that Peril only jumps by ~5% instead of ~15%

[supple skiff]

^^

[bleak tulip]

okay so its 10% more on right click

that aint too bad, makes quell actually relevant

and with transfer it probably still isnt too bad

[near gale]

What about when you can get both at the same time?

[burnt python]

trauma is just a nerfed conflag as well

[teal cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-look-what-they-need-to-mimic-a-fraction-of-our-power-gif-25672186

[candid temple]

the bigger question is, why don't I get headshots on maniacs

[teal cargo]

Veterans to Psykers

[spare niche]

bruh

[bleak tulip]

its not in a row

[near gale]

My question is: when do we get something with either the utility or power of the beam staff?

[spare niche]

o.o

[teal cargo]

gotta use this crappy Trauma staff

[burnt python]

shits bugged i think i arleady unlocked it and definitely did not actually complete

[spare niche]

i was about to say imagine that

[teal cargo]

When vets can just mow them down 😔

[royal granite]

:)

[bleak tulip]

and yeah its also bugged i got it when someone decidedly did go down in the mission

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/idonthateyou-nemo-arguments-findingnemo-explain-gif-4636888

[burnt python]

yeah i got it unlocked on a run where i blew up w/ surge lmao

[teal cargo]

I want Corruscating

[vernal frigate]

Just use the surge staff for utility + CC all the other classes do clearing better on Heresy/Dam

[fresh steeple]

hooooo baby

[burnt python]

the portrait is nice

[candid temple]

left click works fine, but rightclick even no-charge, aiming at the head, it hits body...

angle it up a lot (doesn't work at longer range), it hits head.
this is so fucking jank.

[teal cargo]

I really want like a Sienna Flail

[candid temple]

(disregard dmg numbers, didn't charge fully, but just to illustrate the head issues)

[teal cargo]

That heavy attack stagger is so good

[burnt python]

chest hit box probably sticks out in front of head

[candid temple]

so stupid

I hate it.

[royal granite]

have you noticed brain burst doesn't hit mutants in the head, they hit a spot like 2 feet in front of their head

[lofty walrus]

I've noticed an issue where the projectile is huge and will hit random hitboxes

Like I'll hit doorways even though I'm aiming out of the middle-ish

[long wharf]

this might be useful down the road

[supple skiff]

oh wow

no wonder I havent been getting headshots

[teal cargo]

man how do you get good weapons in shop wtg

[fresh steeple]

check every hour

[supple skiff]

makes the whole railgun thing kinda useless

[teal cargo]

I can barely get staffs or useful melee

[fresh steeple]

nobody liked my Antax Axe 😦

[teal cargo]

let alone good rolls

[fresh steeple]

sniff

[lofty walrus]

rng

[spare niche]

very cool i like it

[teal cargo]

Im here straight using like 280 rating gear 😆

[fresh steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/office-space-bill-coffee-gif-13846135

[candid temple]

every 115 minutes

[burnt python]

looks like a better version of mine, which i love

[fresh steeple]

yeah, I do bihourly too

[teal cargo]

Only high rating stuff I get are like guns

[candid temple]

well can be useful now, if it rolls good blessing and perks when you upgrade it

[charred marten]

Checked shop 4-5 times today, best i got was a purple with 302 base. At least i got a staff so there is that i guess...

[fresh steeple]

I'm excited about that block efficiency in particular

pretty sure it works alongside Kinetic Deflection

[candid temple]

at level 30?

[teal cargo]

Man this is shop is like mobile games level of dumb

[burnt python]

it's wasted w/ peril blocking tbh - that will be rerollable soon enough

[charred marten]

Yes

[burnt python]

it does work with kinetic deflection but it's u nnecesary

[long wharf]

I already have this that I'm not using currently

[spare niche]

[fresh steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/ree-pepe-triggered-angry-ahhhh-gif-13627544

[scenic pendant]

Does Warp Absorption work yet? I noticed at launch it wasn't working with staff warp attacks.

[teal cargo]

Yep at level 30 💀

[burnt python]

you'll be ab le to reroll in a couple weeks hopefully, it's a sick base

[long wharf]

I'll hold onto the new baby sword for if we get new blessings or class builds

[candid temple]

[candid temple]

literal dogshit

[lethal plover]

EL FUCKING MAO
I have tested trauma surge voidstrike on crusher
Surge and voidstrike report around 500 damage to carapace in inspect, and indeed they deal around that same amount of damage
voidstrike is 750 damage in inspect, but only deals around 500 to crusher
Trauma is currently bugged

[candid temple]

why, you'll be able to swap blessings? 🤔

[long wharf]

swap swords for different builds? I dunno

[burnt python]

there have been a few instances where ppl reported psykanium behavior as different to in game, could be one of those cases - not a great way to test

[lethal plover]

what report is there to show that damage in missions is different from meat grinder

[teal cargo]

maybe is just psykanium bug

[supple skiff]

makes the whole area kind of useless lol

[teal cargo]

but pretty impossible to test

[burnt python]

there's no way to actually test, but for example ppl have noticed soulflame doing more dmg in game than in psyk

[elder rivet]

hey guys what is the best rating you can get from a curios ? for the blessing and the perk ?

[burnt python]

thats 100% subjective tho

[teal cargo]

Does Purg staff actually apply soulflame?

[shut thorn]

It has been foretold

[lethal plover]

soul flame has always been doing decent damage if you stack enough, and then there are your friends helping to chip in

it's not very accurate to feel

[bleak tulip]

what else did you think it did

[severe dove]

I really hope they add better voice options for psyker

[teal cargo]

idk some people said its a separate dot

and doesnt stack with other soulblaze

[elder rivet]

got this one but dunno if it's good or not (+21% hp max and the perk is 3% combat abilitie regeneration)

[teal cargo]

🤷‍♂️

[bleak tulip]

looks the same, stacks in the same way and by all looks it does stack with the lv 30 thing

so uhh

at meast in meat grinder

[candid temple]

yolo'd 500 diamantine into this

[runic gate]

nice but base stats are weak

[candid temple]

no quell on weakspot, but that can be fixed when full crafting comes

[candid temple]

nah, only weak blast and blast is kind of irrelevant in my testing.

[pale pilot]

so what's the best way to get going out with a bang?

[long wharf]

you really want max damage and blast radius

[burnt python]

never realized how janky the charged void headshots are til you pointed it out, can't hs a crusher reliably either

[long wharf]

and charge rate

[burnt python]

armored rager basically impossible to hs

have to aim 5 feet over a fuckin pox walker to get hs

[long wharf]

the whole point of trauma is that big explosion, if you aren't focusing on maxing that, you might as well run something else

[candid temple]

my testing in psykanarum makes me think blast radius is horribly overrated.

(actually you might be replying to someone about trauma, nvm)

[burnt python]

might actually be detrimental

[runic gate]

yall aren't bb pox walkers?

[burnt python]

looks like surge or gun it is

[night marten]

how else they going to keep those stacks up

[candid temple]

if we could have access to all staffs for testing, I'd try making a taller psyker

but I just cba levelling to 11 just to test.

[bleak tulip]

finally always making a nearly max height character paid off

[devout axle]

Reposting this since its been a few hours.
https://strawpoll.com/polls/kogjv36xvg6

[runic gate]

What do results look like rn?

[bleak tulip]

take the poll and see for yourself I guess

[long wharf]

I already did, but it won't let me see results

[frigid pond]

im not sure how you look at them again after voting

[runic gate]

I already did, I don't see an option to view results.

[bleak tulip]

[pure rapids]

1 vote lmao

[night marten]

purge staff damage on damnation https://gfycat.com/quarrelsomelastcow

[frigid pond]

trauma being below gun is so funny but true

purge is a solid staff, its there for horde control/clear, which sometimes you need to fill that role depending on comp

[burnt python]

now do a full charge purge while that rager is actually moving at you

[bleak tulip]

"guys, ascending blaze is good I swear"

[night marten]

every day lol

[burnt python]

im a certified purge hater that shit is trash

[pure rapids]

they'd get stunlocked lmao

[iron harness]

greetings friends!
I just finished up my sharpshooter and kinda wanted to dabble in brain magic.
Any tips as i start? 😄

[pure rapids]

first they'll stumble

[burnt python]

on a full charge

[candid temple]

I'm not sure if max heigh is best or somewhere inbetween would be better

[pure rapids]

and as they stay in the flame they'll get stunlocked

[night marten]

6-stack AB against damnation mobs https://gfycat.com/belovedshrillhornedtoad

[runic gate]

use guns till you can get voidstrike, lightning, or fire staff. do not use trauma staff

[devout axle]

This has the same energy as "Guys, 6 warp charge perk is good if you use it with ascending blaze"

[frigid pond]

AB is alright its nice with purge

[burnt python]

ab is bad because you're giving up the 1 feat that makes bb feel good on damnation

and soulblaze is trash

[frigid pond]

yeah but i dont BB

[pale pilot]

you take ascending blaze for warpcharge on soulflame procs, not really for the damage

[burnt python]

lmao

[frigid pond]

unless its ranged units that get 1 shot anyway

[candid temple]

I don't BB, but I also don't AB.

[pale pilot]

because it synergizes with the purge staff

[candid temple]

Quicken Gang, Gang.

[bleak tulip]

"okay guys now you just gotta wait 6 seconds for these enemies to die"

[frigid pond]

its almost like you use it WITH other damage

[burnt python]

"guys stop meleeing them they're on fire"

[bleak tulip]

I maintain that dots in this game are ass

[frigid pond]

so they die faster

[pure rapids]

yea 6 seconds of you moving on to something else

[devout axle]

AB has the advantage of being generically better than its competition. It's not 'good'. Just 'better in more situations than the alternatives'.

[night marten]

it's actually ok if you don't like it

[burnt python]

yep

[frigid pond]

again this is assuming ur team is focusing on other things and you are the horde clear

[devout belfry]

If you kill them while they're burning you don't get a chance at a stack lol

[candid temple]

although if they fix voidstrike to 15% on cast, then, maybe I'll switch off Quicken and get warp resist at 10

[frigid pond]

thats fine? stacks dont do much anyway

and i get them via purge

regardless

[lethal plover]

I am going to post 4 images to prove Trauma is bugged

[frigid pond]

trauma is totally bugged rn

[candid temple]

mm, 24-36% warp resist would be nice tho

[burnt python]

purge does nothing your melee doesn't already do

[shut thorn]

I could either run purg and waste a buncha time trying to kill a horde, or equip a voidstrike staff, aim a bit high and spam m2 m1 r

[devout belfry]

You do you. Someone hold my surge staff I need a drink.

[pure rapids]

what's your staff btw

the shop hasn't been good to me for purg staff

[bleak tulip]

tbh that just makes transfer entirely mandatory and you might have to actually quell in combat which you just dont have to right now

[frigid pond]

staff debate is always so silly

[burnt python]

good find report that shit

[bleak tulip]

not that concerned tbhj

[devout belfry]

⚡⚡⚡

[frigid pond]

the main 3 are fine lol

[night marten]

#psyker-class message

[candid temple]

Hmm.

I need to quell in combat from time to time tho 🤔

Or hit stuff with sword.

But I'm on staff 95% of the time

[pure rapids]

does the Run 'n' Gun work while spraying the flames?

[empty remnant]

i got my purgatus 🙂

[devout axle]

Only for your left click.

[candid temple]

store refresh in 35 seconds

[bleak tulip]

with transfer 3 void actually vents peril as long as you kill like 5 or so enemies is my point

currently

[night marten]

only for left click

[pure rapids]

ah okay what I thought and heard

[candid temple]

oh absolutely.

[devout belfry]

I want run and gun on braced autoguns or something.

[candid temple]

I mean, max is 4.5% supposedly.

that'd be gg really.

[bleak tulip]

my previous staff has 4 on it and it was sweet

current one has 2 and I gotta vent occasionally

usually F is enough

[wise ruin]

what do u guys think?

[bleak tulip]

blessing crafting when

[candid temple]

stam's trash, but 'eh.

[night marten]

left

[candid temple]

left 100%

well

[wise ruin]

aight

finally a decent staff in shop lol

[lethal plover]

report filed

[candid temple]

wait, why are the numbers so low

15 primary action

[bitter abyss]

cause purg

[candid temple]

oh

[burnt python]

why kill stuff now when you can kill stuff later - purge users

[elder rivet]

hey guys, what the best rating you can get from a curios. for perk and blessing ?

[devout belfry]

Purge. It kinda staggers trash. TM

[burnt python]

80 & 20 iirc

[bitter abyss]

cause warpfire can't be better than normal flamer fire apparently, even though magical fire in lore is worse in effect.

[candid temple]

I'd wager it's like 140-150?

[teal cargo]

I like seeing them burn down

[burnt python]

25 per blessing maybe dont recall max

[lethal plover]

imagine if they fix trauma damage bug
that might make it a bit more usable

[runic gate]

Purge is best, I just tell my team to hold right click and come back in 15 minutes while I burn these sticks.

[night marten]

listerine fire is the coolest thing about psykers next to brain burst imo

[candid temple]

too high peril still 🙈

[elder rivet]

what does iirc mean

[bitter abyss]

if i recall correctly

[candid temple]

the numbers per blessing/perk

[pure rapids]

the fire pretty much reminds me of the agni kai between Zuko and Azula

[burnt python]

so 80 max blessing rating, 20 per perk

[pure rapids]

the raw sound of fire spewing from your hands

[elder rivet]

20 per perk and for the blessing is 80 ?

ok ty

[pure rapids]

god tier firebending feeling right there

[teal cargo]

Yea pretty flames!

[night marten]

yea they nailed it

[elder rivet]

so 80+60= 140 max

[vocal iron]

what do we usually want on our curios as stats

[night marten]

even if it wasn't good I would use it

[pure rapids]

then there's surge with that dinky ass static electricity, miss me with that shit

[devout axle]

Definitely better than the nails on chalkboard sound of using Surge staff.

[lethal plover]

trauma can cause soul blaze .....
what is this even for. not like I'm gonna use a flame build with trauma

[burnt python]

i like 1 wound + 2 hp for base, toughness, hp, toughness regen, active ability cd all good for traits

[solid lake]

Eh, someone might want to

[bleak tulip]

gotta sprinkle in the shit blessings so you play the game for longer

[solid lake]

I could see a soul blaze surge staff build coming together if they ever made soul blaze do something decent

[burnt python]

but you can do an extra 2 dmg per tick, more dmg always better right?

[solid lake]

They won't but, y'know

[lethal plover]

if it were like 6 stacks on critical hit, there might be a use, but not 1 or 2

[devout axle]

Surge can't even roll the Soulblaze blessing. Same with Purg.

[candid temple]

I'd probably prefer -20% bomber, -20% gunner, -20% something, on all 3

60% DR sounds great on paper, vs dangerous shit.

[night marten]

can't wait til we can switch blessings around, would love to see a purge staff with blazing spirit (or whatever the blessing is that applies more stacks on crit)

[bitter abyss]

1 with +1 wound. something with regen toughness is good. and if you particularly struggle against certain enemies like mutants or snipers, dmg reduction against those are nice. Some people run +3 wound, but that's potentially dumb overall as you're missing out on more tankiness to your class, and assuming you are going to die alot, so build wound above +1 at your own leisure.

[burnt python]

building for niche is bad, use traits that are always useful

[supple skiff]

another shop with no psyker weapons ffs

[runic gate]

For me, 60% gunner for damnation.

[wise pecan]

get a flamer zealot teammate, reenact it

[velvet trail]

why bomber? Im assuming those are the guys who chuck bombs, not the bursters, but you dont really take much damage from them usually

more the area denial

[burnt python]

dr vs specific enemies is baaad, use generic traits

[devout axle]

I've bought all the staves. 138/143 no longer sells me staves.

[pure rapids]

nah not the same feeling

fire ain't coming out of me

[candid temple]

the generic perks are a bit meh tho

[teal cargo]

id want dr vs bullets

[fresh steeple]

"Gunner" only affects the literal mob called "Gunner"

[burnt python]

its not dr vs bullets its dr vs gunners specifically

[fresh steeple]

it's not that great

[runic gate]

F

[wise pecan]

bombers have massive area denial potential (and i have more than once had a mutant tackle me into a flame puddle), they're still a priority target if you can find em

[teal cargo]

F

[candid temple]

hmm, not sure.

[fresh steeple]

maybe it also affects "Shotgunner"?

[burnt python]

no

"gunners"

its bad

[ornate hamlet]

oh boy another day of guns in my psyker shop :)

[candid temple]

🤔 you can get toughness damage reduction apparently, up to 30% (never seen this perk)

[night marten]

bombers are the worst enemy in the game, restrict your entire team's positioning choices if they're not taken out immediately

[velvet trail]

No doubt, its just that its very rare that you'll actually be eating the bomb damage to be worth a perk slot on your curio

[fresh steeple]

same

I don't think it actually exists

[burnt python]

supposedly its not actually in game

[teal cargo]

guns and catachan swords lol

[fresh steeple]

and if it did with the values stated, it would be absurdly good

[ornate hamlet]

yessir

[candid temple]

hmmh https://darktide.gameslantern.com/curios

perks are sort of ass tbh

compared to vt2

[spare niche]

good or bad/

?

[burnt python]

5%hp on each curio would be ideal

[elder rivet]

is it better to run for full hp on curion, or have balance like one hp, one toughness, 1 wound

[uneven sparrow]

They give us mixed messages

[candid temple]

first target is a bit low, but it's pretty damn good.

[burnt python]

1 wound then hp

[velvet trail]

I guess for all the people who like deflection FS, block efficiency would be a priority too

[runic gate]

s'ok, upgrade and see what happens. IMO 380-400 is real spicy

[teal cargo]

yea vt2 you hae barkskin

[candid temple]

if it works with peril block tho?

[burnt python]

it does, but it's unnecessary

peril blocking is good enough on its own, no need to invest

[teal cargo]

Yea specially with non FS

you block like forever

[spare niche]

[velvet trail]

Its useful for FS dflection because you take so much from ranged waves

[teal cargo]

Oh yea blocking ranged gives sooo much peril

[night timber]

pick n' mix work now ? possible to complete ? is it only elites or elites and spécials?

[elder rivet]

not enought modifiers rating for me, don't upgrade something below atleast 360, you loose too much stats

[candid temple]

it's not that much stats

[burnt python]

first target is important on axe, you want to dump mobility or cleave

[runic gate]

Good to see Vk V Axe Gang is alive and well.

https://tenor.com/view/the-house-will-ferrell-axe-gif-8225033

[elder rivet]

houuuuu

[candid temple]

first target's important if it will hit breakpoints

if you're overkilling already, it's wasted

[burnt python]

its relevant to push attack spam which does not 1 shot most things on damn

[bleak tulip]

does that blessing trigger on the sweep

because that shit is rad if it does

[candid temple]

that is just disgusting.
give me.

[ornate hamlet]

lowkey the best melee weapon might be the staff melee attack

[elder rivet]

nah it's never waste on hazard 4-5 when elite is rushing you

[spare niche]

ngl FS and deflector is fucking great

[runic gate]

Great question, along with a lot of perks and blessings, what's the best way to check

[candid temple]

uhh?

If extra damage from first target, isn't going to reduce your hits to kill by 1, it's wasted.

[uneven sparrow]

This is the best argument

[runic gate]

I know the perks are goated, I'm hardly an expert on a lot of these blessings to know if they are good/bad.

[bleak tulip]

if psyker isnt meant to melee, why is force sword moveset so fun to use

[gray kelp]

i just want trauma staff to be good man blowing clumps of poxwalker legs off is fun

[bleak tulip]

checkmate atheists

[burnt python]

what, force sword moveset is the thing holdign it back

[bleak tulip]

disagre

I actually really like it

[teal cargo]

I don like FS moveset, its kinda weird

[magic gull]

this was pretty dank as well, btu not too useful to clear hordes

[devout axle]

You and me both, my Trauma-tized brother.

[lethal plover]

The Emperor is a psyker.
Checkmate atheists

[candid temple]

force sword has one weakness, it's missing an easy horde clear moveset

but you can light1, heavy2

[lethal plover]

Currently bugged

[teal cargo]

You gotta do jank light + heavy

[candid temple]

but that's tech and I'm lazy so I just push, dodge back and voidstaff

[bleak tulip]

tbh light combo does okay when you weave in the interrupt, its no cleave weapon but it can hold its own

[uneven sparrow]

In universe the zealots and vets would be happy to see a Psyker refuse to use their powers it’s true

[gray kelp]

how so? main issue I see with it rn is peril cost is way too high

[spare niche]

disagree just light spam dodge continue dodge and over and over again sick shit

[robust meteor]

not doing an attack pattern feels like a clicker game

[runic gate]

have you tested decimator perk? and how the dmg increases as you stack it

[bleak tulip]

well you can do light heavy reset then

[lethal plover]

search above

[teal cargo]

Zealot would prob kill us

[uneven sparrow]

He’s not like the other psykers

[burnt python]

force s word light attack sp am is so fuckin bad how are ya'll advocating for this lol

[lethal plover]

#psyker-class message
bug

[bleak tulip]

just click on heads lmao

literally two shotting gunners on damnation with it

one shotting on light 3

its not a horde clear weapon

[uneven sparrow]

He’s special and therefore deserves psykers delivered to him by the freightload for brain consumption

[bleak tulip]

so dont expect it to do zealot things

thats why you have a staff

[magic gull]

doesnt add onto each other, so 50% more dmg in the end at full stack, not 100% x 1.1 x 1.1 x 1.1 x 1.1 x1.1

[burnt python]

i'll keep usin my axe and doing zealot things

[teal cargo]

Imperium are Skaven expys

[runic gate]

Damn, still pretty solid tho. But this is only for repeated attacks on one target right?

[teal cargo]

Emp is Great Horned Rat

[bleak tulip]

yeah, ill be over here oneshotting elites in the meanwhile

:p

[magic gull]

that i havent tested, intesting point tho, prob will test when i can get to it.

[teal cargo]

what if yoy a Chainsword enjoyer?

[burnt python]

illegal

[runic gate]

@ me with your results, I'd check but working rn

[cold oasis]

Why on the fucking earth is Pick N' Mix such a fucking shit thing to do

[teal cargo]

cos cool cosmetic behind it

[bleak tulip]

just wait for the BB buff, any day now

[cold oasis]

It's just unfun mostly

It's all down to luck about spawns and the targeting not being utter shit

[bleak tulip]

ask youself: do you really want those goggles that much

[uneven sparrow]

Gaming it would be doable if your buddy push spammed

[severe dove]

Just started leveling psyker i want Quietitude at level 5 right?

[cold oasis]

I mean, i already did 100 missions, got my damnation thingie

[teal cargo]

Same day as store buffs hopefully

[cold oasis]

I just want those googles è_è

[teal cargo]

what damnation thingie?

[bleak tulip]

im pretty glad I dont care for em at all

[cold oasis]

the frame for doing every mission in damnation

[teal cargo]

yep i use quiet

[bleak tulip]

isnt that one heresy

[ornate hamlet]

Quietitude or Essence Harvest. Both viable. I'd say essence for now if you're sticking to 1-2 because you'll be relying on BB alot since it's very good at those levels for malice and above once you get quelling movement completely nullified run quietude. Unless you become a heretic and run those passive toughness regen builds then movement speed is useless*

[cold oasis]

tbh till you get good staves, you can easily just spam bB

[proud mantle]

whats the best way to get warp charges, is it really just that 4% talent

[severe dove]

Fair, essence is prolly better before you unlock the better staves since bb is honestly better than the first staff you unlock lol

[ornate hamlet]

And yes

[proud mantle]

im saying in general

[ornate hamlet]

I misread my bad

[severe dove]

I def wanna use the purgation staff personally

Even though pretty sure surge is just the best one

[teal cargo]

Kinetif flayer and Ascendent blaze

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah passives... you only want to use BB for runaways or for targets you're safe on taking if your team is distracted that way you can take the big boys out even if it takes 3 at higher levels.

[proud mantle]

is that really all flayer is used for? wouldnt more warp charges for dmg be better or is that not as reliable

[ornate hamlet]

Trust me people saying BB is useless at higher levels haven't had teammates getting rekt by massive hordes too busy to take out priority targets so you become a very useful asset even if it takes 3 to kill elites. Snipers are your fever dream.

[devout axle]

Situational 6% damage that requires you to pay more attention to maintaining the single most annoying mechanic in our kit is definitely not worth it.

[hasty ether]

they all have their uses (except trauma.....) All depends on your groups comp and what your trying to accomplish. Voids good all around, Purg decimates hoards and surge stun locks (but requires your strike group to actually kill things.)

[trail thistle]

so since I play support in most games... I wonder after psyker what else to lvl. Ogryn with shield rlly that good as they say? Or shall I make zealot...

[proud mantle]

is it better on a soulblaze build with purgatus then? cause that seems easier to maintain 6 at

[ornate hamlet]

Very good I love using a bleed ogryn build for toughness. And shield bashing you become a godamn juggernaut for tanking bosses with a shield.

[burnt python]

ogryn w/ shield and rumbler is excellent support

[bleak tulip]

ogryn if you like support

[teal cargo]

Ogryn!

[devout axle]

Some would say yes. I call those people wrong.

[hasty ether]

Ogryn's a good support and most ogryns are good people

[trail thistle]

thankls, ogryn it is... they so ugly tho 😄

[severe dove]

Honestly not even going to bother using a staff till i unlock a not trauma staff since it's pretty terrible

[robust meteor]

this is 39% BCR

[pure rapids]

unironically I've been rocking that and it's been great

though a random BB is still appreciated

[robust meteor]

oof no autoplay

[severe dove]

People still using duelling sword for psyker?

[burnt python]

taking gun psyker for a whirl i hope its trash

[pure rapids]

yes

[ornate hamlet]

If you're talking about the 30 feat it's decent. But not reliable. It's a good way to provide charges but being honest here. Being honest ready? You may not like what I'm saying. I forgot the name of it but running the kinetic barrage I think is better overall. It allows faster BB comes clutch when you need to pop an elite fast before it severely damages your team.

[pure rapids]

but the antax axe is arguably better

[teal cargo]

ugly and stupid!

[runic gate]

That spawn at 16 seconds is so annoying, this should be on reddit/FS Forums.

[uneven sparrow]

[hasty ether]

Traumas so bad a recent poll taken earlier had guns ahead of it.....

[severe dove]

I generally like whatever class could be considered a controller

[robust meteor]

good suggestion

[severe dove]

Though often times the "controller" is a tank

[cyan notch]

kinda small sample size

[proud mantle]

ive tried it but maybe its cause i havent done above malice, but like if im having to use my F im in a situation where i cant easily brain burst aside from bosses

[uneven sparrow]

Psykers and ogryns have the most immediate cc tools

[burnt python]

3rd lvl 30 trait is really good for using F to clear space into BB

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah you haven't tried it on heresy and above. Those BB become very useful. Especially when your veteran gets shredded and has to switch up to horde control if you're not using purgatus.

[hasty ether]

very but i would still take a gun over trauma....

[devout axle]

This poll is still on-going. Throw your votes in now.
https://strawpoll.com/polls/kogjv36xvg6

[severe dove]

I just really like the concept of shaping the battlefield or the flow of combat

[proud mantle]

this might be it atm cause im usually needing to do horde clear in randoms

[severe dove]

I mean if it didn't have such dogshit range for what the staff actually did it might be a little less terrible

[uneven sparrow]

Maybe ogryn but any class can shape the flow in a bad way by going ahead of their team etc (cough cough zealot)

[hasty ether]

Also as MisterStyx just linked you can help by expanding it

[teal cargo]

Ascendent Blaze makes your F actually kill a lotta trash

[runic gate]

That clip makes me want to find a good roll force sword more... too bad I'll never find one lol.

[teal cargo]

Wirh 4 warp charges

[ornate hamlet]

I switch up I run a purgatus build but keep my BB on me at all times. I've saved many runs switching from CC to pure elite killing even if it took me 3 hits. Those tanky enemies don't fuck around on heresy and damnation its why I recommended it over blaze.

[severe dove]

Fun Fact: Your Vet Won't kill the sniper so you should BB it

[devout axle]

Its range is fine. Its damage is fine. Really its only issue is its Peril cost. Spending almost 40% peril on a single cast destroys its efficiency in the Peril economy compared to every other staff.

[ornate hamlet]

True af. I've had many veterans screaming where is it, pop it's dead

[uneven sparrow]

A dedicated bursting Psyker is incredibly useful

[severe dove]

If only they had a button that would tell them where it is

[robust meteor]

people gushed over that sword when i posted it. its weird bc i think i take more damage with this than i do with dueling sword

[proud mantle]

do any builds run the extra cd on F at 30 or no

[ornate hamlet]

They do but they're overwhelmed by elites in front of them all the time. They dedicate the front liners rather than sniper boys.

[severe dove]

Sorry, if only they and TWO buttons that told then where it is

[runic gate]

The ability to block+res and survive those clutch situations is huge.

[uneven sparrow]

Literally even a level one can function and contribute on high difs if they’re protected

[severe dove]

Imagine not spamming middle mouse to mark elites

[brazen magnet]

Just completed 2 High Intensity Trainyards on Damnation and it was the best gaming experience ive had in months. God damn, and I felt great doing it as Psyker.

[robust meteor]

i'd say thats it strongest characteristic

[proud mantle]

where are you finding people that will tag enemies using middle mouse, and also not using the shitty "Enemy here" ping

[dusky lantern]

iwut build did u use

[low onyx]

Las pistol psyker best psyker

[brazen magnet]

Forcesword, Voidstrike

[severe dove]

I am the people who tags using middle mouse

[devout axle]

You're banned

[severe dove]

I spam middle mouse

[pure rapids]

if you're in oceanic/asia I'll ping all the enemies for you

[severe dove]

Middle mouse is the strongest button in the game honestly

[supple skiff]

^

[brazen magnet]

2 Ogryns (no shields. 2x rippaguns) and a Preacher 2h chainsword flamer as teammates,

[supple skiff]

mark a sniper and its gone simple as

[ornate hamlet]

Dawg I only ping elites and then enemy over here mark where hordes are coming from if I'm too busy CCing

[runic gate]

Yeah I was thinking since I don't have one myself to test it, that it might be a gimmick. What diff was that clip from?

[proud mantle]

ill take no pings over the stupid ass "Enemy here" beacon tho

[hasty ether]

i sometimes just spam middle mouse to make sure theirs not a sniper about to ruin my day

[low onyx]

They hated him because he spoke the truth

[proud mantle]

fucking red skull blocks my view

[brazen magnet]

always ping tbh

[uneven sparrow]

That’s my loop mark burst staff spam

[severe dove]

I genuinely think that any half decent player should use middle mouse at least a couple times before aggroing any room

[robust meteor]

damnation

[teal cargo]

I rebound to T for tag

[severe dove]

Getting 4 elites marked makes everything significantly easier

[brazen magnet]

absolutely

[runic gate]

damn, nice, welp my search continues. My hopes is that my group isn't in those situations, but sometimes damnation is like that.

[severe dove]

I have an mmo mouse so everything other than movement is bound to my mouse

[proud mantle]

the hidden tech for regular mouse, frees up fingies

[severe dove]

My 12 side buttons on my mouse are all pretty consistently used in all games

At least 1-6 are

[robust meteor]

omnijesus blessed me with it yesterday. barely had enough to buy the thing

[proud mantle]

also V2 had it on T iirc and im just used to that now

[pure rapids]

ppfffttt you ain't sliding with a thumb press???

[brazen magnet]

Seeing a preacher solo a plague ogryn on HT Damnation while keeping some specials off himself while the other 3 of us deal with the horde was fucking epic. That guy was so good lol.

[runic gate]

Post that shit

[severe dove]

Oh i am, i meant WASD

[devout axle]

I have an MMO mouse and I use like ... 3 buttons on it. I realized after buying it my hand doesn't bend like that comfortably.

[ornate hamlet]

Bleed build? If so they're near immortal unless they fuck up.

[severe dove]

I rebound crouch to 4 and the scanner to 9

[low onyx]

fuck me thats a nice sword

[brazen magnet]

Yes, but even so, very good awareness on the specials and reflexes to deal with them and control on the ogryn to lock him in place

great stuff

[uneven sparrow]

lemme uhh run into the specials and horde and ignore the guy who can ranged instakill without damage risk - those blody shouters

[severe dove]

Awareness is the strongest thing in the game that's why i believe middle mouse is the actual strongest button even compared to your ability

[brazen magnet]

Agreed, and why veteran skill is so good

you just see the fuckers coming

[rare ingot]

can someone help me do this?
Image

[low onyx]

Eyes focused in teh backline

[severe dove]

When i play vet i use the ability off CD just for the wallhacks aspect of it

[brazen magnet]

and its nice to wallhack with their skill before you go in to see if there are 10 fucking gunners camping around the corner

[low onyx]

if you tunnel vision the grunt in your face you will lose

[rare ingot]

can someone help me do this?

[low onyx]

Youre looking for an ogryn bro

[raw otter]

you can try to recruit some people in the lfg channels

[severe dove]

The wallhacks can genuinely be worth having to wait for the damage a lot of the time

[ornate hamlet]

Lmao I remember doing that one on nurgle beast. Fucking stressful.

[severe dove]

On vet

[ornate hamlet]

large

[stiff orchid]

what the hell does finesse and first target mean

[raw otter]

also malleus monstronum was used to be very bad before
now they slightly made it easier

[runic gate]

Dodge range iirc.

[candid temple]

most players don't use it, they didn't in vt2 either

[uneven sparrow]

It’s actually like 12 bursts. It just needs people who are willing to spam push and do cc

[candid temple]

*most, as in legend and below.

[pure rapids]

dodge range and first target in a cleave

[severe dove]

Look at it in inventory and press V on it

[raw otter]

finesse is for crits and headshot damage and works also for weakspots i believe

[night marten]

push v

[ornate hamlet]

Finesse = speed = dps first target = how much blammy damage you do with your special meaning your special sucks ass dawg @stiff orchid

[rare ingot]

@uneven sparrow ah ok thx a lot

[candid temple]

first target is first enemy you hit.

[ornate hamlet]

Yes and the first target you hit with your special = the amount of damage you do to it

[robust meteor]

https://youtu.be/sJEPiBlQ7Jw -- hate messing with video formats so i just uploaded it to yt

[severe dove]

I mean understandable not to but doesn't mean you shouldn't be using it all the time

[candid temple]

well it's a multiplier, it's nice, but not critical.

[candid temple]

should yes, I constantly spam mm

[runic gate]

I'd trim it down to the first 30 sec then post it on the subreddit and fat shark forums.

[ornate hamlet]

Organized teams don't need middle mouse. It only comes in useful when your team is distracted and you need a reminder where everything is. For Pubs yes its necessary

[runic gate]

Mobs should not spawn out of nowhere right on top of you.

[candid temple]

zero reason not to ping tho

[ornate hamlet]

But they do

[tight saddle]

I think I just had the worst Heresy run ever. A Veteran than didn't shoot, an Ogryn that didn't Melee, and a Zealot that didn't melee. The only reason why it felt so bad was because the run before it everyone was good and covering each other and we had 0 downs even with 2 Grims, but this run was wack lol

[severe dove]

Really, the swarms should never really do enough to kill you, it's just the elites and specials inside the swarm that kill you. Ergo, spam middle mouse.

[gray kelp]

i get bad luck with other psykers in quickplay man

2 of them completely useless I felt bad for slab ogryn in our group lol

[runic gate]

I'm aware, but thanks for replying

[ornate hamlet]

I play with full comms and a team that says where everything is. We only use it when there's far away targets like snipers or high values like trappers and poxers. It only is useful on pubs or when you need to mark a horde spawn.

[uneven sparrow]

You have to give them instructions if they’re low and assess their kit before the round begins

[gray kelp]

they're usually 30

[severe dove]

In their defense psyker is just flat out the hardest class

[lethal plover]

Trauma staff is not too bad at knocking down crushers, even with the bugged damage

[gray kelp]

I keep my eye off them and they just die instantly, clearly just dont know how to melee/dodge lol

[ornate hamlet]

Psykers usually die because they try to be melee juggernauts. Or over do peril constantly and die.

[uneven sparrow]

That’s awful, must av been a gun Psyker

[gray kelp]

nope, void and surge psyker

[severe dove]

Super squishy control based class with a resource meter makes it so most people will be not great at it

[ornate hamlet]

Average void staff from what I've seen. Surge also. Purgatus psykers are giga chads.

[runic gate]

@robust meteor i just realized you survived all that to 1% and your teammate that you just rezzed downed you with a firebomb lol

[rose folio]

I've only been able to clear damnnation on psyker personally? once on ogryn.

[gray kelp]

surge psyker being bad honestly just baffled me because literally all you have to do is spam alt fire and that's usually good enough

[severe dove]

Me stunlock wave like star wars

[ornate hamlet]

Surges don't lock down enemies right and overdo it by constantly overcharging. So they die constantly lol. You only need surge when everything is getting too close or you have to lock an elite out of movement. Alot of surge psykers spam overcharge then go BLAMMY.

[uneven sparrow]

I wanna go back to electricity but the fire staff has better stats

[ornate hamlet]

Surge staff is good but overrated

[tight saddle]

Nah, a surge psyker needs to know what and when to CC something. Spamming it randomly leads to it stunning targets that are of no value to be CCd.

[severe dove]

But how can they be palpatine if they don't spam lightning and die multiple times

[ornate hamlet]

Overrated af

Dead enemy and CC > stunned enemy and extremely limited control

[ornate hamlet]

smiles in purgatus

[runic gate]

I find I like surge staff with another player who can clear hordes, because the horde will eat the CC for the ones you actually want to CC.

[gray kelp]

my main issue with surge is it feels bad if you have more than 1 in a group

[ornate hamlet]

Surge is only good with a zealot and flamer, or with a purgatus psyker otherwise you're just ending your life when you did null to nothing but stun an elite for a few seconds. Worst part is when your team doesn't even do anything about the stunned elites its why I never run mr shocker*

[uneven sparrow]

It is true, shock relies on friends

[gray kelp]

if I expect I have to hard carry yeah I definitely prefer void/purge over surge but I feel like surge is very useful in competant groups

[zinc phoenix]

Shock is great with a pre made, with pugs it’s slow suicide

[spare niche]

i just use Force sword once their stunned kill them and then carry on

its so easy

LOL

surgey boi

[zinc phoenix]

Also an option but the peril cost is high

[magic hull]

Purge is horde clutch

[tight saddle]

You're supposed to Surge CC whatever is a priority in the moment, not just Elites or Specials, but ones that are most value in that specific cast. If you waste time CCing targets that are of no threat or aren't in a good position to be taken out you're wasting the CC. If you see a Veteran honing in on a group of Elites/Specials it's sometimes better to CC the trash mobs near the Veteran so it has free reign to blast shit instead of wasting CC on the targets its shooting that are engaged with other melee already handling them well.

[robust meteor]

yea, i let the clip go until then lol. thought it was pretty funy

[spare niche]

whole point when it works with my feats and then im uber tanky

[ornate hamlet]

Its great for malice but I felt like it falls off really hard in Heresy+ because of the CONSTANT hordes

[tight saddle]

That's just one of many scenarios that surge psykers fail to take into consideration.

[ornate hamlet]

• animation lock yourself = easy prison treatment from all sides

[uneven sparrow]

Just look at ogryn chat when discussing this it’s full of guys sayin “love me spark Ed’s”

[gray kelp]

speaking of purge though, what perks/blessings do you guys like on them? I picked up a couple 350+ base rating ones over the past couple days but havent upgraded em at all

[tight saddle]

Seeing a surge psyker just randomly spam it with no regard for the flow of the fight is painful to see.

[zinc phoenix]

I play ogryn and I just don’t feel the same way. Oh no a thing is in front of me guess I’ll… heavy attack it until it falls down and then beat it to death

[runic gate]

doesn't matter, you will get block/stamp perks lol

[ornate hamlet]

I use higher critical on higher peril, and faster secondary charge to quickly get it to middle to stack more burn

[burnt python]

im sad to report that las gun psyker felt very good

[low onyx]

Las pistol for clout

[uneven sparrow]

Admit it you liked that a Psyker bursted it letting you one shot

[gray kelp]

does crit influence soulblaze or just purge direct damage?

[zinc phoenix]

I mean I play bleedgryn so typically it’s me rapidly killing the big bois

[ornate hamlet]

Traitor

Staff players, laugh at this user

[ornate hamlet]

I've seen it sometimes affects burn stack damage which is very good. I tested it in the meat grinder

[burnt python]

las gun perfectly fills the gap in psykers kit - clearing gunner trash, melee handles hordes and bb handles priority targets

bb / las both eing able to deal w/ elites/specials on seperate resource pools is nice

[uneven sparrow]

The gun is undeniably good even on Psyker but you have betrayed your high minded siblings

[zinc phoenix]

I had a gun psyker in a game today and I don’t know why he didn’t just play vet

[gray kelp]

got this one, think its worth upgrading to gold?

[ornate hamlet]

Yes

[low onyx]

Because vets run bolters even though you are a psyker

[burnt python]

honestly the only advantage i see for psyker is mk v axe abuse

axe is absudrly good on psyker

[zinc phoenix]

But you can do that with a staff and get a gun that shoots giant exploding bullets

[cold oasis]

Cool

[ornate hamlet]

I would.

Whats this about the axes

[cold oasis]

Got Pick N Mix absolutely at random on Malice.

fucking garbage penance.

[zinc phoenix]

Mark 5 axe is really solid

[ornate hamlet]

Very very good warp resistance isn't important you can negate that by using F wisely and quelling constantly run it with the passive peril = toughness and you'll profit tremendously. Don't charge it fully quarter to half charge quell, charge again and keep stacks building @gray kelp part 2

[uneven sparrow]

This confirms my theory that they’re all doable if youre skillz

[burnt python]

i ain't arguin fun factor, just effectiveness

[burnt python]

mk v combat axe w/ peril blocking can abuse the shit out of its godly push attack w/o risk of getting hit (peril to block w/ no stam)

[ornate hamlet]

Been running the dueling sword but is there some blessing that just makes the axe insane on psyker or something

[ornate hamlet]

O

[boreal sun]

wut

[burnt python]

push attack spam is 100% safe unless you are critical peril

[plucky shuttle]

Isn't it on heresy and above?

[burnt python]

you cannot get hit lol

[cold oasis]

It's bugged i guess

[zinc phoenix]

The lack of an actual push attack on the force sword is beyond irritating

[ornate hamlet]

That sounds insane lol

[ornate hamlet]

The axe has a strong push and if you HOLD LMB, you get a free horizontal cleave hit witht he axe

[ornate hamlet]

Well that’s because too many babies complained about the peril use on push

[burnt python]

im expecting it to get nerfed

[zinc phoenix]

Wait… push attack doesn’t use stamina?

[boreal sun]

the problem is that it's super inconsistent on what / if it pushes

[burnt python]

it does but you dont need stam to block on psyker

[ornate hamlet]

It does? But if yo udont have it, it does it anyway?

[burnt python]

and psyker has fastest stam regen speed so you can spam push attack w/ 100% uptime w/ no stam modifiers

[ornate hamlet]

And then the push distance got nerfed into the ground when they lowered the peril cost. It’s was actually useful

[zinc phoenix]

So that’s what people like about axe. I just like shanking stuff

[ornate hamlet]

They nerf psyker so much that it's gonna be considered a skilled class eventually

[burnt python]

yeah it's really damn strong rn, admittedly not as much fun as dueling / force swords imo

[zinc phoenix]

Ah yes the incredible skill of “left click BB”

[boreal sun]

I still think force sword push is the best. It consistently stuns entire groups.

[elder rivet]

why is this game, explosive baril are yellow and flamable baril are red, isn't suppose to be the exact opposite base in every game i've ever play ? I thinks so