psyker-class

[wide quest]

It's shared between any character that's a psyker

[loud violet]

**Consecration: **Upgrading the rarity of a weapon. Unlike in Vermintide 2, upgrading will not roll a new, random version of that weapon with higher rarity. It's more controlled. De Geer: "You have the base rating of a weapon where you can see how much of the total 'budget' of the weapon is dedicated to damage or handling or ammunition, that kind of stuff. That is not changed when you upgrade a weapon. So if you have a white weapon with 90% allocated to damage, if you upgrade that to orange, 90% of the total value will still be allocated to damage. So a white weapon with a high damage percentage will be an orange weapon with high damage when you upgrade it, which is a huge difference from Vermintide."

Earn Blessing: Yanking a specialized trait off a weapon. De Geer: "You can actually extract traits and move them between weapons. So they are in a sense like gems. You can take a trait out of a weapon and place it on another weapon. So that's a way for people to get the combination of traits that they want. And traits have rarities, with three tiers."

Combine Blessings: This feature lets you combine those traits into higher rarity tiers. If you find a rarity one trait and a rarity two trait, you can combine them into a maxed out rarity three trait. De Geer: "It's a way of upgrading, if you find the right trait but it's not rolled to be the highest tier. Then you can put it on your favorite weapon."

So I guess we should

[burnt rampart]

Nice

[loud violet]

start collecting weapons with the right blessings

[near wyvern]

You don't have multiple hits on heresy and damnation even if you stun a mauler or a rager cus they have a lotta friends you also have to worry about. A quick strike followed by a dodge is all you get.

It's for the same reason force sword special is amazing up to malice but after that you can't afford to be still for even two seconds.

[burnt rampart]

Is there perk rerolling tho

[loud violet]

**Refine Item: **Rerolling perks on weapons—the passive stats like 20% damage bonus against armored enemies, and so on.

[burnt rampart]

Ayy

[loud violet]

**Re-Bless: **Placing that trait you worked so hard to level up onto the weapon of your choice.

[burnt rampart]

Where is this

[loud violet]

https://www.pcgamer.com/darktides-crafting-system-isnt-quite-ready-because-fatshark-ripped-it-out-and-started-over-mid-development/

[burnt rampart]

Thanks

[flint sky]

Cope

[loud violet]

Seethe

[flint sky]

Mald

[loud violet]

RATIO

[burnt rampart]

Feels like they buffed diamantine spawn rate too

Been consistently getting 50+ per run now

[flint sky]

Yeah finding much more on missions

[fiery zodiac]

Sorry I meant the 20 kills version. I did that easy, you just need to abuse a bridge that's on the Chasm Terminus tileset

[shadow quail]

urgh this shop lol

[warm matrix]

delicious purple boxes

[loud violet]

give more plasteel

pls

[shadow quail]

literally the worst part of the game atm

[loud violet]

i hunger

[burnt rampart]

No

[burnt rampart]

No plasteel

[flint sky]

150-200 a mission on damnation

[burnt rampart]

All diamantine

[brave vale]

first target is at 8% how bad is that

[burnt rampart]

Oh shit lol

Yeah 50 is on malice

[runic hornet]

absurdly bad

[woven quarry]

I hear voices

[burnt rampart]

I guess it doubles each difficulty up

[runic hornet]

first target is a very important stat

the dumpstat on a force sword is mobility

[brave vale]

ty

[runic hornet]

mobility has almost no effect, so you can afford to have it at 0%

[wide quest]

Yeah, and I'm saying how painful it is still seeing people manage to complain about having to push 7 down.

[fading jewel]

yeah ive been that map too , it just wont work , do i have to throw 7 guys off at the same time or 7 total i dont understand the quest at all

[edgy heart]

I really enjoy the duel saber, kinda feels like rapier from vt2

[urban plume]

are post beta force staves broken? They have really low damage values... like 10/15 vs 100+ on my older ones

[burnt rampart]

Just do chasm logistics

[flint sky]

It's one if the top two psyker picks

[runic hornet]

even at 0% it's only -12.5 dodge distance, you can afford to let it be tanked

[burnt rampart]

Hop in a call with some guys in lfg

[stoic pendant]

7 at the same time

[burnt rampart]

Dueling saber is what all single target focused weapons should be

[devout axle]

I don't think you play on Heresy or Damnation if you think that's the case. First, Force Sword special sees tons of use in both difficulties. Second, Axe Special is faster than both a Force Sword special (which is used for its ability to both stun enemies out of their animation AND deal massive damage at the same time), AND is faster than a normal axe swing, staggers enemies backwards, and gives you more time to attack before they can attack again AND gives you distance so you can fight clean up some horde between interrupting them and attacking them again. If there are too many horde for you to stagger it, there are also too many horde for you to reliably kill it with a melee at all, in which case, why are you in melee with it and letting yourself get overwhelmed?

[flint sky]

☝️
A dodge slide is far more efficient than this

[warm matrix]

Another shop reroll and only 1 garbo staff for sale.

[burnt rampart]

Fast and agile

[warm matrix]

See y'all in an hour

[fiery zodiac]

This worth picking up?

[burnt rampart]

No

Axes are never worth picking up

[fiery zodiac]

Well said

lol

[runic hornet]

low headtaker roll

it can go as high as 15% i've seen

[loud violet]

i dont need more purple box

[burnt rampart]

Way too slow

[loud violet]

i need funny paper

pls

[urban plume]

axes are OK, nice high attack speed

[runic hornet]

15% x 5 power is actually worth considering

[burnt rampart]

Even the small ones

[stoic pendant]

In 2s

[runic hornet]

I have a heavy sword on zealot with a 12.5% roll, it makes the weapon worth using

[flint sky]

It's ok if it's gold coins

[burnt rampart]

If you’re on psyker just run saber

[runic hornet]

oh wait it's sa gold item, so it's weekly shop

yeah that axe is not worth ever

[flint sky]

Bruh wtf axes are good as hell

[burnt rampart]

Nah man they slow af

[runic hornet]

combat axe falls off hard in heresy tbh

errr tac axe

[flint sky]

Not optimal for psyker but really good

[burnt rampart]

And no cleave

[runic hornet]

combat axe is... okay

it still oneshots trash with lights on heresy but it's not optimal

[edgy heart]

I enjoy it a lot, more than power sword

[burnt rampart]

I use them on zealot and even then it’s struggle

[flint sky]

Tac axe destroys bosses on a zealot

[burnt rampart]

If you want good elite killer thammer is nice

If only it still had AP on normal attacks

[flint sky]

Its honestly a toss up between tac axe and evicerator on zealot for me

[burnt rampart]

I just run evis 24/7

Too much team utility

[flint sky]

It seems people really go one way or the other with both of them

[loud violet]

I wish to have chainsaw sword for my psyker

just for fun

[edgy heart]

What's the difference between a purple and a yellow?

[burnt rampart]

Isn’t there a force greatsword that got datamined

[flint sky]

Evicerator players hate axes and axe players hate evicerator

[burnt rampart]

And another big force weapon of sorts

I like axes in how they feel

But if I wanted an elite killer I can take a bolter

Or shotgun

[flint sky]

More perks

[loud violet]

As far as I know the 'Quality' / color of the weapon just indicates how many blessings & perks it has

[burnt rampart]

2 blessings

[flint sky]

Just look at base stats when using a weapon

[loud violet]

Find a weapon with solid base stats and save it

and hopefully we get crafting soon™

[woven quarry]

Named my psyker Emmet
Thats fitting right?

[burnt rampart]

Like a high range purgatus

Mine is high range and quell & resist

All 70%+ iirc

[devout axle]

I've never seen anyone post anything about it actually being datamined. I'm fairly sure that people are basing that assumption entirely off the two-handed sword seen in the Psyker class trailer.

[stoic pendant]

Keep pushing poxwalkers until you have a nice big group then use your special to knock them off the side

[burnt rampart]

There was one?

[trail tapir]

I think so, I'd also love a force weapon that's not a sword though

a mace or an axe

[burnt rampart]

Found it

Not sure what the other big thing is

Another variant maybe

[devout axle]

https://youtu.be/bkB3Al45auA?t=58

[loud violet]

Oh yeah

that was a 2h

[burnt rampart]

Yeah looks like one of those in the leak list

[loud violet]

Leak list?

👀

[near wyvern]

Perhaps later™️

[burnt rampart]

https://youtu.be/lCOuP1bld70

[iron flame]

Does the shop even have higher level base stats than 350?

[near wyvern]

They are so gonna sell weapon DLCs

[night marten]

380 is highest

[near wyvern]

380 is highest I have heard of

379 is highest I have seen in my shop

[icy harbor]

what benefits do you get from killing daemonhosts

[loud violet]

my sword

[devout axle]

A penance
It also counts as a Monstrosity for weekly contracts

[iron flame]

Knowing how greedy Fatshark had become. For sure. They will be drip feeding us weapon perk and class dlc for sure

[raw oriole]

Is the prereq for higher level base stats just level 30, or does it take into account your most difficult mission completed?

[brave vale]

Hot take, i dont think the item shop is bad

[near wyvern]

Get out

[loud violet]

It's kinda bad.

[edgy heart]

Do you get more than the 2 properties and the trait?

[loud violet]

It's bad because it makes me want to check it obsessively

every hour

I don't need that in my life

[burnt rampart]

Oh shit

That’s a saber

[brave vale]

just dont buy it lol, none of it affects gameplay

[raw oriole]

you get a 2nd blessing on yellow

[loud violet]

Oh you mean the money store

the

RL money thing

I C

[raven helm]

does psyker's brain blast scale?

[brave vale]

no

[loud violet]

Nope : )

[near wyvern]

No

[onyx current]

they got to add some type of re-roll once an hour

[edgy heart]

Is blessing the traits from vt2

[loud violet]

Or just make the store refresh every 4 hours and have a bigger list

[onyx current]

and like 1 reroll of the limited shop a day

[near wyvern]

It's base 1k affected by warp charges and enemy resistances

[brave vale]

Idk why they hate the cash shop so much. Just don't buy the items. It's purely cosmetic and it helps fund the game. There's like 30 videos on YouTubes shitting on it but like how else are they supposed to monetize the game

[devout axle]

Or just ... let me reroll with dockets.

[onyx current]

it feels like brain blast takes so long to charge

[burnt rampart]

This is one of those sabers the zealot gets access to I believe

[edgy heart]

And they buffed it during pre beta didn't they?

[burnt rampart]

Same sun insignia at the base of the hilt

[native thorn]

They should let us mark a "desired" weapon

[near wyvern]

The problem with the cash shop is you can't buy the exact amount. They force you to spend more than you need and hold your money hostage so that you would feel the need to spend more on order to "not waste what's in there"

[native thorn]

increase it's spawn weight

[devout axle]

This too.

[ornate hamlet]

what do we think

[burnt rampart]

Small blast radius

Otherwise great

[native thorn]

they could even call it requisition. Fancy 40k word

[brave vale]

I mean I can see that but still it's to a minor degree. I think this is the ONLY valid complaint about it. Besides that like who cares? Cosmetics are the last thing that I'm worried about in a game like this

[near wyvern]

Not amazing but it will do. The quell on weak spot kill is the blessing you absolutely want for a god roll void

[iron flame]

I don't mind cash shop what I do mind their fomo bullshit and Aquila not giving me the exact amount I have to buy

[native thorn]

There was one thing that really annoyed me tbh. I get the system kinda sucks and all but it's common enough in gaming. But in an interview they said in-game currency would help them offer better regional pricing internally

[ornate hamlet]

yeah soulblaze on crit on void lul, useless

[native thorn]

But they are fucking me on regional pricing

Fatshark were awesome about it with VT1 and 2

[raven helm]

are they gonna make it increase ever

[native thorn]

Darktide costs 2.5x vt2 release price here

[near wyvern]

And +1 stack of it. So in case your target lives the initial hit (which it probably won't) you will get a lingering 1dps effect, hooray....

[native thorn]

It's like 10% down on a direct dollar conversion and that's after my currency has spent 3 months diving

[iron flame]

They can have their monetization. It is their way of predatory way of monetization that pisses me off.

Also fuck the preview of the cash shop

[near wyvern]

They have been absolutely silent on any changes to psykers so either there are big changes coming or there is nothing in the way.

I suggest you start juicing up that copium cause I suspect it's gonna be a ride.

[iron flame]

They really should have a refund policy. As in you buy it and don't like it? You have 5 minute to refund. Considerkng their preview is bad as fuck.

[lethal plover]

No one wants to do damnation pubs it seems

[raven helm]

dam

[mystic burrow]

Just lvled psyker to 30 as my first class 🙂 any thoughts on what build to aim for? is gameslantern a good place to search?

[iron flame]

Yea Psykers are ducked when it comes to BB

[devout axle]

I always wear my copium ventilator while playing my Psyker. I'm an addict now, and there's probably no saving me.

[burnt rampart]

Make bb staff primary

[iron flame]

Selfish or supporty?

[burnt rampart]

But it’s an instant attack

[mystic burrow]

Can I have both so I can switch between them please?

[lethal plover]

Surge voidstrike and purgatus. Just 3 really

Whatever you build use peril block. It's godlike for reviving.
Also use force sword with deflector to block bullets

[burnt rampart]

Just delete trauma staff and make its effect into the new Q

You shoot a voidstrike orb that explodes on contact with effect of max charged trauma

Comes back every 30s

There

[edgy heart]

New q?

[devout axle]

Sad thing is, Trauma isn't even that bad. It's only real flaw (and the entire thing holding it back) is the Peril cost compared to every other staff.

[burnt rampart]

Errrr

New blitz

I have it bind to Q

[edgy heart]

Oh the ability

Q is my beloved quick swap

[burnt rampart]

Mine is f

Z for ability

So I don’t press it by accident

[mystic burrow]

is that a perk?

[burnt rampart]

Yes

[edgy heart]

I still press z to inspect my weapon out of habit

[burnt rampart]

It’s 20 or 25 iirc

[lethal plover]

Deflector? On sword yeah

Peril block is feat

[burnt rampart]

You’re giving up your jogging quell tho iirc

[lethal plover]

Dodgeslide

[burnt rampart]

Lazy

[mystic burrow]

I don't see a feat with that name tho 🤔

[devout axle]

Kinetic Deflection

[lethal plover]

Someone help me in in game

[lethal plover]

Can't chat

[shadow quail]

Have they buffed resource drops?

[tepid nest]

Can someone please explain to me the thought process behind head popping dregs mid horde when you're full toughness and have an Ogryn in front of you? I was told I don't understand the class when I called this out.

On heresy

If I don't understand something I much rather be enlightened.

[night marten]

they're worrying about stacks when they shouldn't be.

vOv

[devout axle]

Depends. Are they doing it once every 15-20 seconds? If so, they are doing it to maintain stacks.

[burnt rampart]

Warp charge sustain

[tepid nest]

This was my thought, but open to be told I'm wrong.

[burnt rampart]

For the weirdos that care

[devout axle]

If they are popping multiple heads in a row, however, they are just dumb.

Unless its Specials or elites.

[tepid nest]

No specials or elites, just easy to kill mobs.

[iron flame]

Selfish : 3, 2, 1, 1, 1, 3. Voidstrike staff for pew pew purpose

Supporty : 3, 1, 3, 1, 3, 3. Surge staff and CC. Brain burst tanky targets for that +15% damage for your allies.

At least that is how I build mine

[edgy heart]

So what do call the properties and the traits here?

[burnt rampart]

I bet they quell fully too

[autumn lark]

Recharging your warp charge

[tepid nest]

I understand what it does, I don't understand why they did it.

[autumn lark]

Thats why they do it

[night marten]

just bad decision making, that's all

[tepid nest]

It seems like misplaced priorities though, right?

[near wyvern]

Your choices are:

BB build (only for penances)

No matter what you pick for feats, never pick Soulblaze on elite BB kill and never pick Soulblaze enemy when gaining a warp charge while at max.

Void staff build (you need quell on weak spot blessing on it)

Surge staff build (hope for as high warp resistance on it as you can)

Purge staff build (kinds the weakest of the three but fun and can work)

For melee weapons, your choices are mk V axe for killing things fast, duelling sword for staying mobile or force sword for hunkering down.

If you use void, pick toughness on warp kills or toughness on quelling.

If you use surge pick toughness on quelling and pretty much anything goes.

If you use purge pick toughness on warp charges, kinetic Flayer and pick the soulblaze for your ability to gain a chance of a warp charge on soulblaze kill.

Always pick the 4% chance of warp charge for any kill in coherency.

For the rest of the feats, pick as you want as they don't really matter. Mind in motion is nice but not absolutely necessary.

[autumn lark]

I mostly target dregs if they are behind teamates

[burnt rampart]

211331 for me

[tepid nest]

Why not rebuild charges when there's elites?

[burnt rampart]

Purgatus

[tepid nest]

I would think letting your charges fall off sometimes is a much smarter play so you can continue to make an impact.

[autumn lark]

Its easier to rebuild when there is a single enemy or there arent any elites

[slow granite]

I got a crew with vet, ogryn, and zealot. LOOKING FOR PSYKER

hum if u wanna join

[burnt rampart]

No

[slow granite]

hmu

[burnt rampart]

[autumn lark]

I only really use brainburst for specialists and elites

[tepid nest]

But your impact in that moment is nothing except maintaining your charges.

[burnt python]

coherency feat is overrated, the combat ability regen one on elite kill is b etter (cus warp charges suck)

[burnt rampart]

I only really BB dogs and ogryns

And boss of course

Everything else you can burn or zap

[iron flame]

Ahh I heard soulblaze build was a meme so I never tried it. Is it legit?

[burnt rampart]

Purgatus in particular can perma stunlock with left click

[burnt rampart]

I don’t run it

Tried it for a little

[left heath]

bruh

[burnt rampart]

Absolutely garbage

[runic hornet]

absolutely heretical

[burnt rampart]

Both the on elite kill and burn warp charge gain

[tepid nest]

I agree with Aliz on soulburn after running it for a while

[split geode]

Just shrimply use surge staff and be the team player

[burnt rampart]

I tested it a bit in the meat grinder

[runic hornet]

ffs

[burnt rampart]

It’s only on burn kill

[runic hornet]

I'm just going to play

mg12 lasgun psyker

[burnt rampart]

And not the flame from staff cast

No difference even in a completely clean environment comparing to running the 4% chance on kill

And 10% brain burst

[bright cipher]

hell yeah hit 30

[burnt rampart]

Also I think my number for feats is different than yours

[bright cipher]

got so much xp from the last heresy run i went from 29 flat to 30

3 scriptures plus high enemy activity plus 16% bonus xp

[iron flame]

Hmm yea I find that I easily get 6 stack if there is a horde in Malice alone so I didn't pick 10% BB

[burnt rampart]

I’m running toughness on warp kill, 5-15% damage on peril %, 4% chance for warp charge gain while killing in coherency, normal movement speed when quelling, 10% chance of random bb on any attack and expending warp charge on ult cast to get faster cooldown

People have said to take 6 warp charge and also warp resist

But I can’t really sustain it without decent horde

[flint sky]

No it's terrible

[iron flame]

Hmm yea for me I like 6 warp charge and wrap resist so I can pew pew a lot more

[burnt rampart]

Is fun to basically have 1% peril gain every second while on 3+ charges

But the damage just isn’t there

At least for purgatus

Voidstrike might be different

[iron flame]

Usually when horde comes. I had 6 charges anyway.

[subtle flame]

which one?

[iron flame]

Hmm true

[flint sky]

6 warp is kinda meh

[burnt rampart]

I’m not confident enough in randos yet to pub matchmake heresy

Might be different there

The hordes are quite packed

[flint sky]

Use the LFG channels

[iron flame]

Hmm yea I take it for the wrap resist. 6% is doesn't seem much

[burnt rampart]

True

[bright cipher]

i thought sustaining 6 warp would be hard but on heresy theres basically no downtime on full stacks with a good pace

[tropic halo]

my success rate with pub heresy's been pretty good. like 70 percent wins.

[burnt rampart]

6% per stack

Your peril gain becomes laughable for purg

And pretty good for void apparently

[iron flame]

My bad. Mean to say 6% extra damage

[flint sky]

It's ok if you are staff jockeying

[burnt rampart]

One extra fully charged surge cast

Ah

[devout axle]

Hm, a fairly reliable perk that gives me a potentially life-saving burst of damage and also helps maintain my stacks vs ... a situational 6% damage boost that requires me to pay even more attention to the least reliable mechanic in Psykers kit otherwise I get no value from taking the perk.
Yeh, I'd say the 6 charge Perk is pretty bad overall.

[mellow yarrow]

The 6 charge perk is terrible

Imo

[flint sky]

If your playing malice just spam brainbursts

[flint sky]

It's very mediocre

Aggressively so

[burnt rampart]

Purg might just be too weak so I don’t notice it much

I’ve had a total of one single voidstrike staff out of my 100 hours of playtime

Never seen another in the shop

And I scrapped it after a few games

[mellow yarrow]

It's just that charges aren't something you concern yourself with on higher difficulties

[bright cipher]

i use void rn and run 211332

[edgy heart]

facts

[flint sky]

Yeah I agree but the dudes on malice it literally doesnt matter lol

[iron flame]

Yea.. Like I said I just take it for wrap resist so I can pew pew more in horde

[burnt rampart]

I’ve done probably a dozen matches in heresy

[flint sky]

Staff CC slave moment

[burnt rampart]

It’s mostly good but when the pain train comes through it really hurts

[bright cipher]

huh its 6% ress PER stack

i didnt notice that

that might be goated for surge staff

and im already on heresy

[burnt rampart]

Like 4 disabling specialists+tons of rifles

[flint sky]

Not really if you know the edging breakpoint and have a decent quell staff

[burnt rampart]

It slow the gain yes

But in gameplay the fact of the matter is you’re either already in melee range after a few casts or need to quell

Very rarely can you charge fully and blast the entire thing

[iron flame]

Yea... Hadn't checked the breakpoint and things. Still looking for good weapons with stats before I move onto Heresy. No way I am touching that with my shitty all blue loadout

[ebon sedge]

Friendship ended with Surge Force Staff. Now Kantrael XII is my new best friend.

[iron flame]

I am guessing that is the recon gun?

[edgy heart]

anyone getting backend errors?

[flint sky]

As long as you have good base stats on weapons it literally does not matter the rarity

[ebon sedge]

Nah, it's the best lasgun in the game.

[burnt rampart]

Plus you’re running surge so your kills will not come that often on it alone

It’s just throw out some zaps then reposition

[mellow yarrow]

I'd be willing to bet that forcing yourself to think about your charge counter, by prioritizing 6 persistent charges will make you a less effective psyker

[flint sky]

It is but it's not a staff so your just a shitty vet with it

[burnt rampart]

Or engage with melee

That too

[ebon sedge]

being a shitty vet still miles better than psyker with staff unfortunately.

[burnt rampart]

FOMOing warp charges

Lmao

[tropic halo]

agreed

[mellow yarrow]

Nooo

[flint sky]

What in the brainrotted takes

[bright cipher]

they hated him because he spoke the truth

[flint sky]

They hated him because he had retarded takes

[iron flame]

😭Yea... I know but my voidstrike is only 300 points in total with a 50% aoe and damage. Shitty shop just won't give me a voidstrike staff

[teal needle]

Is someone saying rarity doesn't matter? The bonus blessings and perks are a huge deal

[ebon sedge]

Herezy with x4 vets its a free win. Herezy with x4 Psykers is a torture.

[burnt rampart]

It doesn’t matter because you can upgrade

[sacred sedge]

anyone stating something is better than psyker is pure HERESY, and i will not stand for it

[burnt rampart]

And drop and swap perks & blessings when that comes out

[flint sky]

I feel you it took a fair few missions into level 30 to get my first drop lmao

[mellow yarrow]

It's a mindless take, roll a vet at that point

[teal needle]

Lmao heresy with 4 psykers is is easy

[burnt rampart]

Vet better for blasting specialists

[bright cipher]

breakpoints dont rly exist in the way they did in VT2

[flint sky]

Yes it doesnt matter as much as base stats

[sacred sedge]

heretical statement

[flint sky]

Simple as

[native thorn]

My brother do you believe damage is the only thing a class can bring to this game

[flint sky]

Truthful one

[sacred sedge]

im takin the piss

[ebon sedge]

Killing is the best CC

[burnt rampart]

I just burn shit up and thin the horde for power sword and evis to come through

[teal needle]

This chat is raw piss right now I'm going back to painting

[ebon sedge]

The only thing that wipes my runs are ranged scabs and dregs

[burnt rampart]

Just cc them

[bright cipher]

yooo the cosmetics shop actually rly grew now that im lvl30

[burnt rampart]

[bright cipher]

i can actually do some dress up

[mellow yarrow]

There are roles in this game, there's a roll for a vet which in general is the superior elite killer and there's a roll for the psyker which can be a superior horde clearer or a cc bot

[bright cipher]

and not run around in red onesie jammies

[flint sky]

Get a better vet or play vet yourself

[burnt rampart]

Also more people gotta try out the shotgun

You can throw around ogryns

[native thorn]

Sure, one enemy at a time

[flint sky]

Dont neuter what little value the class has

[burnt rampart]

I meant vets and zealots

[ebon sedge]

I have all characters on 30 and I can truly say that vet is the easiest one to play, but I like to look of the Psyker better.

[bright cipher]

maybe you could argue for a recon rifle build if soulflame wouldnt be a meme and the head pop on dmg would have a lower cd

but as it is rn youre just larping

[flint sky]

Ok then play the psyker rather than shitty veteran and use staffs

[native thorn]

ofc it's easiest, it just shoots shit. A class needing to think more to work well doesn't make it worse lol

[burnt rampart]

You need psyker or ogryn

[flint sky]

Void surge and fire all work

[burnt rampart]

If you get peppered by ranged stuff

lol

[bright cipher]

post it

[mellow yarrow]

You doubt him?

[bright cipher]

people like to make big claims on the internet

[ebon sedge]

how do I make shift+windowskey+S work?

[native thorn]

I don't doubt him at all

[burnt rampart]

Just f12

[flint sky]

With a take like XII psyker you never know

[burnt rampart]

Or whatever your steam ss is

[native thorn]

Just the way he sees the game

[torpid girder]

Saw this staff in the acquisitions shop and can't buy it i'm crying right now https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1986680382285854171/AFF760E1DA38B84CC2196B96AF0019628DA2AA90/

[spiral remnant]

NOOO

[mellow yarrow]

He's confirmed he's a no lifer by coming into the psyker board and saying he's using a gun

[burnt rampart]

Zamn

[mellow yarrow]

I believe

[spiral remnant]

NOOOOOO

[flint sky]

Its ok

[spiral remnant]

as a void strike user this hurts me deeply

[flint sky]

Not a massive loss

Better rolls soon sir 👍

[bright cipher]

tfw waiting for 1 more shop reset before hitting the sack

[native thorn]

Also I'm genuinely curious in what way is psyker somehow more fun for you if you basically play it as worse vet

[bright cipher]

surely i will get a good base force sword and surge staff

guaranteed

[flint sky]

Spoiler. Its not

[ebon sedge]

I'm trying to make screenshot works in this game

[spiral remnant]

i think i've finally figured out how to min max curios and items

[flint sky]

It's literally f12

[spiral remnant]

😃

[flint sky]

Stop looking for builds on the internet lol

[burnt rampart]

Aesthetics

[ebon sedge]

f12 doesn't work for me

[burnt rampart]

You look good you feel good you feel good you play good

Check your steam client settings

[dusk birch]

just use the prt screen key ?

[native thorn]

Great psyker aesthetic with a gun onscreen the whole time lol

[burnt rampart]

There should be one that says screenshot

[spiral remnant]

being magiky

[burnt rampart]

Sometimes it’s under a different key

[spiral remnant]

is awesome by its own virtue

[native thorn]

They're opting out of magicky

[spiral remnant]

lame

use force staff

it's fun

[native thorn]

^

[burnt rampart]

Still though

[spiral remnant]

brain burst is a good backup tool for bulwarks and stuff tho

[bright cipher]

trauma staff legit makes me want to jump off a cliff

[mellow yarrow]

It's just illogical

[burnt rampart]

“Psyker with gun perfectly good” and “we get wiped by ranged units” makes me laugh

[bright cipher]

and its the first one you unlock

such a bad introduction to staves

and their power

[native thorn]

Sure but at that point let someone else be the psyker and play vet???

[mellow yarrow]

If you're going to use a gun use the class that buffs the gun

[spiral remnant]

emperor loves me 😻

[bright cipher]

"heres a staff that farts on enemies"

thx big E

appreciate it

[spiral remnant]

fr...

I've gotten 3 legendary emperors gifts now

[flint sky]

Truly a headscratcher

[lucid rose]

How is the revolver?

[spiral remnant]

ehhhh

[native thorn]

a gun

[flint sky]

Shit

[bright cipher]

bad

[lucid rose]

lmao thanks

[burnt rampart]

Use shotgun

[acoustic spade]

I think I've gotten 3 now as well, all 3 basically trash still

[lucid rose]

is it good at anything?

[flint sky]

Use staff

[burnt rampart]

Yes

[static epoch]

it's really cool

[burnt rampart]

It pierces

[bright cipher]

revolver is literally a sidearm in tabletop for units that cant use real guns

[lucid rose]

laughs in flamethrower

[flint sky]

Wasting ammo

[burnt rampart]

But the ammo economy is atrocious

[bright cipher]

but somehow u can use it as your only ranged option

[spiral remnant]

use surge, purgastus, or void strike

[burnt rampart]

Play vet

[mellow yarrow]

It's almost like you should use the weapon that synergizes with your class

[ebon sedge]

I lied about Ogryn, it's in progress though

[flint sky]

Best for you in the long run

[spiral remnant]

void strike is highest damage, purgustus does a lot of funny stuff with cc and feat builds, and surge is the default "best" staff

[flint sky]

[bright cipher]

man hid the names...

4wat

[burnt rampart]

You should play ogryn

[mellow yarrow]

Lmao

[burnt rampart]

You can tank

You can aoe

[shadow helm]

DOX HIM BOIS

[spiral remnant]

i use void strike because it's satisfying melting an entire horde before it even reaches you

[burnt rampart]

From very far away too

[spiral remnant]

man i envy your psyker drip

i hate doing penances

[flint sky]

Reverse image search less effective lol

[spiral remnant]

they're so situational

and since i play pubs the elites i need always get killed

[burnt rampart]

Hate that they take away your hair with hood

Lmao

[native thorn]

we need a brainburst emote

for whenever someone suggest guns

[ebon sedge]

Still missing Pick and Mix, I think it's the hardest of them all

[mint imp]

I actually like getting bald

[spiral remnant]

seriously.

[night marten]

my advice for pick n mix #psyker-class message

[spiral remnant]

i still haven't gotten past that one where you explode

on 3 different elites?

[night marten]

^ same applies to perils of the warp penance

[devout axle]

I got this one completely by accident.

[mint imp]

Well you could try LFG channel

[spiral remnant]

👍 i'll see if i can

[burnt rampart]

I hate that the kneepad on pick and mix reward is only on one of the knees

Same across the other pants of that style

[spiral remnant]

ehhh i dont like burdening other people with penances

[burnt rampart]

Makes me die inside every time I see it

[spiral remnant]

so i just do it whenever i can

[ebon sedge]

All of my penances I did with randoms, sometimes you get some kind souls that are willing to let you do it if there is an opportunity, like 3 ragers.

[native thorn]

quid pro quo, find some people who need help with theirs and do a couple runs

[flint sky]

I hate that I have to down myself for that shit so I'm just not gonna do it lol

[burnt rampart]

I really gotta do the detonation thing

[mint imp]

Well it's better than suicide bombing in a random game, with LFG you could find an ogryn to stack 3 melee elites on you just boom and voilà

[flint sky]

Dogshit penance

[burnt rampart]

Malice has so many elites now it feels like

Always 5 ragers or maulers

[night marten]

you can suicide on the first pack with elites and then just quit the mission but yea it's kinda garbage how it's designed

[flint sky]

Malice is a piece of piss

[wide quest]

The first 370+ item in my store

[burnt rampart]

Perfect for the penance

[mellow yarrow]

Malice is easy mode

[flint sky]

Na man just refuse to do it, I will not denigrate myself

[burnt rampart]

Just cheese them

Like zealot chest piece

[mint imp]

But having to suicide for that penance pretty much means you're gimping the lobby

[burnt rampart]

Get down to one wound, run back to spawn, survive 1 horde and watch youtube

[ebon sedge]

I like the vet penance for camo pants - it require you to kill few elites/specials by headshotting them during your F. The good thing is everytime you kill the special/elite it refreshes the duration of your ulti. Veteran is truly superior to the Psyker.

[mellow yarrow]

I did it with some friends

Wouldn't want to fuck a random team

[runic hornet]

train hold mission >pubs try to hold medicae >I say "fuck'em" and hold the train >a few seconds later they get dumpstered by sniper, bombardier, and gunner >I clutch it >they go back to holding medicae >I say "fuck'em" and hold the train >a few seconds later they get dumpstered by gunners again

[flint sky]

It's not even close

[runic hornet]

what the FUCK is with pubs and holdign that spot on the train mission

[lethal plover]

damn. force sword + peril block + deflector + force push makes me feel like a jedi, sliding towards gunmen

[flint sky]

Psyker has 300 dps

[lethal plover]

feels so good

[flint sky]

I've seen a vet do close to 2000

[runic hornet]

what is so hypnotically attractive about that wide open spot

[oak falcon]

How important is penetration lmao

[burnt rampart]

The high ground

[runic hornet]

no, that's not even high ground

that's the LOW GROUND, which is even more ???

[ebon sedge]

I think Psyker and Vet were designed by 2 different people

[runic hornet]

the medicae is literally the lowest part of that entire section

[shadow quail]

I think because its next to extraction

but its a bad spot

[burnt rampart]

Oh the medicae

[mellow yarrow]

You can see dps?

[burnt rampart]

Never encountered anyone that does thay

[flint sky]

Psyker feels like it was designed to be shit

[burnt rampart]

Everyone just goes to the shipping containers

[night marten]

that slightly elevated platform next to the medica on the train mission isn't a bad spot.

[native thorn]

if you think designing a class is a one man job then I suddenly get why you like gun psyker

[mint imp]

Oh most of my lobbies go hold next to medicare too

[lethal plover]

hmm? what's the problem?

[runic hornet]

Every single quickplay group has to be told to hold the train or around the train as needed to avoid spawns of gunners/rifles

[flint sky]

Meat grinder in the psykarium

[night marten]

helps funnel the mobs, still gives you enough range to take care of threats before they're on top of the team

[mellow yarrow]

Ah

Good to know

[mint imp]

But it's in Malice it goes fine, didn't try diff 4 and 5 at all

[runic hornet]

but instead they all crowd around the medicae like moths around a lantern

why.

[candid temple]

Closer to extract.

[autumn lark]

psyker is just deticated elite killer

[flint sky]

It helped me realise how truly shit psykers are past malice

[lethal plover]

because it's the medicae station

[shadow quail]

and heals

[flint sky]

That cant kill elites past malice

[burnt rampart]

Vet does it better

[bright cipher]

so what are the max ranges for gs on weapons?

[burnt rampart]

Psyker is cc

Hella cc

[runic hornet]

i'm having some fun playing mg12 gun psyker using forcesword

[bright cipher]

i just hit 30 and noticed weapons in the shop are all around 300 base

[burnt rampart]

And sometimes pop a specialist or two

[runic hornet]

it's silly

[candid temple]

Dedicated void railgunner or palpatine electrifier.

[shadow quail]

I think ill level a vet next lol

[runic hornet]

play like a lasgun veteran as far as prioritizing rifles

[burnt rampart]

Level ogryn

[candid temple]

Vet seems so boring.

[runic hornet]

and when crushers appear that's when you break out BB

[burnt rampart]

We need more ogryns in the wild

[bright cipher]

ive rolled sustained fire on 3 staves in a row now

[flint sky]

Do so its fatsharts chosen class

[bright cipher]

kill me

[candid temple]

Like I'd play an actual fps game instead.

[native thorn]

ok now to be fair

those games don't have bolters

[shadow quail]

I love the gameplay of the psyker but its very meh sometimes lol

[autumn lark]

give vet a double barrel

[burnt rampart]

Unless the vet has bolter

Or shotgun

Shotgun cc the absolute shit out of everything below boss

[ebon sedge]

Staffs were good until I started playing heresy and suddenly Void doesn't do enough damage to kill scabs/dregs

wrong quote

[flint sky]

It's just a staff cc slave class

@autumn lark for him to never use it because the XII and bolter are far better?

[wide quest]

So for the 2nd blessing, do I gain more power with lower stamina or higher stamina?

[lethal plover]

is it yet another round of Peek whining about psyker nonstop

[tacit urchin]

The Soulblaze passive Wrack and Ruin really is dumpster tier isn't it. Two tics of soulblaze doesn't even kill the jobber enemies

[twin wing]

sounds like it

[burnt rampart]

No we have a cringe gun psyker in the chat

[runic hornet]

high stamina but it's so little it's irrelevant, it's basically a dead blessing

[native thorn]

Last night was so positive

[shadow quail]

Yes

[twin wing]

not as bad as me whining about zealot though

[flint sky]

Try surge

Great stun

[runic hornet]

gun psyker is fun tbh
I like forcesword for switchhitting more than powersword by a longshot

[wide quest]

4% is pitiful really

[burnt rampart]

Or flame

[autumn lark]

id enjoy psyker more if there were more guns available for the class

[runic hornet]

forcesword push is so good as a "I was shooting rifles but suddenly backstab noise"

[burnt rampart]

Please give zealot power sword

🙏

[lethal plover]

knocks down even a rager when you do the followup

[flint sky]

Maybe if you could come up with a good argument disproving what I say I'd quieten down

[twin wing]

you're a menace

[wide quest]

Are you aiming for the head? Because I have no issue running void in heresy.

[ebon sedge]

I have surge and maybe it's better if you're playing with a group of 4 friends but with randoms that CC gives you thing. It's better to use that time to BB some elites or shoot dregs/scabs.

[runic hornet]

yep! "Ragers to the face" is one of my leading causes of death as vet, so playing mg12 lasgun "but I'm actually a psyker" is a lot of fun

forcesword pushes to control ragers, CC ult

[burnt rampart]

Wtf

Surge requires coordination?

Lmao

[lethal plover]

maybe I have explained new tech and cool things I found while you keep repeating the same material day in and day out

[runic hornet]

unironically yes

[autumn lark]

When braced autogun psyker becomes a thing i will be the number 1 most reliable psyker

[runic hornet]

Because you give up your ability to shoot rifles

[flint sky]

New people in everyday have to repeat it

[runic hornet]

If you can't call out "guys there are three rifles on the left, high"

[wide quest]

Shit ngl I kinda want to have the braced autogun on psyker

[twin wing]

average veteran main

[runic hornet]

three rifles will fucking kill your team while you stare impotently at them with your surge staff

it's basically the same as flamer

[burnt rampart]

Ngl I hate autoguns

Let me put a red dot on

[flint sky]

Braced autogun is so mid

[burnt rampart]

I’m suboptimal without oit

[winged lagoon]

I don't like any guns on psyker. Except revolver. It feels right

[autumn lark]

I can understand psyker not having a bolter its the psysically weaker class but braced autogun should be available

[wicked jewel]

surge staff has ranged basics for gunners

[fading jewel]

how do i make meat grinder mobs attack me

[winged lagoon]

Even then I can't deny I think the staffs feel better

[runic hornet]

good luck killing anything

[twin wing]

def aint got a meta braced autogun yet @flint sky

[runic hornet]

the first hit has a ton of stumble

[flint sky]

Why? No one would use it over staffs

[runic hornet]

so a follow up shot is basically impossible

[winged lagoon]

It's meant for stunning

[flint sky]

Its ok

[winged lagoon]

Not insta deff

[lethal plover]

the left click has good suppression.

[hoary hamlet]

Why would you want braced autogun on Psyker when you have accatran?
Zealots would trade with you any day

[flint sky]

It just rather a bolter or xii

[burnt rampart]

Zealot with accatran yesss

[lethal plover]

even if you miss it can shut gunners up

[twin wing]

90% of the brace autoguns you get do like 120 ive seen one at 210 dmg

[autumn lark]

To have fun

[native thorn]

so what you're saying is they won't be shooting at you and the threat has been mitigated?

[burnt rampart]

Use fart staff

[autumn lark]

Braced autoguns do pretty good damage

[twin wing]

so you get double the ammocount of the bolter with faster reload but half the dmg

[flint sky]

Ok bolter does 450

[wicked jewel]

also they fixed the verticality of surge secondary so its no longer so hard to hit guys above and below as before

[tacit urchin]

is there like a "chad psyker" setup for wannabe Zealots with the fire staff and a melee focus

[runic hornet]

no, because I knock down one rifle, the other two are still shooting me, I try to shoot the others, the first guy stands up when I'm not ready and dshoots me again

[lethal plover]

literally me

[flint sky]

Animation cancel reload

[runic hornet]

I hate it

[twin wing]

still not as fast as autogun braced reload

[lethal plover]

peril block + deflector + force sword and you're the most menacing jedi ever

[hoary hamlet]

bolter has 1/8 the ammo and it takes 4 times the time to take it out or reload

[ebon sedge]

Unfortunately our melee is the worst, maybe with 2h sword this will change.

[flint sky]

Doesnt the autogun have like 30 rounds a mag?

[twin wing]

ive got one with 60-70

[tacit urchin]

does 40k lore have any janky psyker-guns

[flint sky]

No armour pen is the biggest put off for me

[tender cipher]

Grey Knights have a ton.

[hoary hamlet]

^There's 3 types of autoguns, each with the 3 variants, braced are the good ones and have a lot more ammo

[wicked jewel]

they should let us actually deflect the las shots back at enemies lol

[autumn lark]

Give psyker powerfists :))))

[native thorn]

as an aside do you think anyone running a shotgun is griefing because they can't hit distant snipers too?

[frail spire]

how does void do against armor?

[lethal plover]

who else can block bullets

[burnt rampart]

The fastest shooting braced autos have 50

[twin wing]

yeah autogun more horde clear less shoot big guy with mace

[flint sky]

If I'm running an elite killer vet its bolter simple as

[burnt rampart]

And about 500 in reserve

[flint sky]

Horde clear vet? Why

[tacit urchin]

I don't think we'll be getting any grey knights weapons

[ebon sedge]

Why would you block them?

[tacit urchin]

for a few reasons

[lethal plover]

to slide towards them and kill them like jedi

[shadow quail]

2h is in the trailer

[flint sky]

Just use powersword 4head

[twin wing]

it counters everything at range except for shield and crusher

[lethal plover]

force push them around to make them stop their animations

[tacit urchin]

A grey knights sword is probably worth more than a planet

[lethal plover]

the force sword is now the most fun weapon for me

[ebon sedge]

But you cannot sprint and block? Or am I wrong?

[autumn lark]

And too heavy for a normal person lol

[cedar grove]

How am I doing Mr. Krabs?

[flint sky]

I'll give it a go when I'm done leveling zealot

[native thorn]

Plus I'm pretty sure we just don't have the warp to fuel those puppies

[lethal plover]

slide and block for forward direction. also try dodgeslide while blocking

[flint sky]

Christ

[twin wing]

i reccomend its like flamer with unlimited range

[tacit urchin]

that and they would be three times our characters weight

[icy harbor]

you need to be level 30 till it really becomes viable

[worn canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-sad-fridge-no-food-gif-5296071

Force sword when no deflector

[ebon sedge]

This sounds fun, but the sword have awful moveset :/

[twin wing]

you giving me aches and pains

[flint sky]

Usually people like their vet to be elite clear or ranged chaff tho especially on damnation

[native thorn]

thank you for that, picturing my lanky german psyker with a grey knight force halberd is hilarious

[autumn lark]

Give me a psyker subclass that doesnt instantly down on perils explosion and i will exclusively play it

[flint sky]

So might be a while before I get round to it

[icy harbor]

I currently have a purple force sword with deflector and 377/380 base stat. If it gets a good blessing when upgrading, I am set

[twin wing]

yeah i run zealot so thats why im defending it so hard

[tacit urchin]

whenever I see a streamer play psyker and they aren't literally chaining back dashes I cry

[burnt rampart]

What does power even do

[autumn lark]

More damage

[tacit urchin]

power sword just gives you a couple swings of big damage

[flint sky]

I could try it on my leveling zealot

[burnt rampart]

Like just multiply your entire output by X%?

[flint sky]

Any perks a must?

[native thorn]

nah, the kamikaze thing is absolutely necessary

[robust meteor]

ill take it i guess

[viscid matrix]

More damage and stagger

[lethal plover]

you can learn the moveset. it's not swiping to clear a horde, you force push and then do quick slash to chop up head. it's very fast and fluid like a knife

[viscid matrix]

Nice, would be better with the crit blessing instead

[burnt rampart]

Force sword is like a bigger dueling saber

[lethal plover]

just force pushing around you can collect the herd and then chop them down

[burnt rampart]

Honestly pretty great

[twin wing]

not bad

[burnt rampart]

Plus you get your meme head pop

[flint sky]

@viscid matrix 👋

[wide quest]

I usually do light - heavy - push/push attack for the force sword

[flint sky]

I'll give it a look at some point

[twin wing]

actually this prob the best

[real helm]

held down grenade non-stop for 11 minutes straight on a heresy and didn't get warp battery...? I know its bugged saying malice when its supposed to be heresy but is it just completely bugged atm?

[flint sky]

It will have to be pretty nasty to dethrone bolter my beloved tho

[burnt rampart]

Are you on 4 charges constantly

[twin wing]

depends on what you wanna use your gun for

[burnt rampart]

It’s not holding bb

[silent wave]

Light>heavy>light>light is a good combo too, the poke does a lot of damage

[burnt rampart]

Lmao

I just spam light

[twin wing]

aka your playstyle

[burnt rampart]

It drives a way through hordes

[silent wave]

Pushing is very strong though so it's usually the safer bet

[flint sky]

Yeah true

[viscid matrix]

👋

Question for everyone, does the assassination targets shield count towards the health for the monstrosity solo kill? I know all bosses are monstrosities, and it counts for the monstrosity kills

[ebon sedge]

For some reason I feel like my push with force sword doesn't register and mobs simply ignore it.

[flint sky]

I think atm my vet I'd based solely around trying to be what the psyker should be. IE an elite killer

[native thorn]

push or push attack?

[ebon sedge]

both

[autumn lark]

Hopefully well have access to force axes and force warhammers

[native thorn]

odd

[twin wing]

yeah popping heads of the crutches of the enemy

[native thorn]

lmao force warhammer on a psyker ain't it

[lethal plover]

there is push and there is push attack (follow-up)
I often spam just push like twice to freeze a group. Push attack is for knocking down ragers who otherwise couldn't be handled.

[native thorn]

maybe a mace

[autumn lark]

Would be good for psyker to have a armor penetrating melee for psyker

[viscid matrix]

Every instance of stagger has a stagger amount, pretty sure mobs have a stagger resist that the stagger amount has to reach to trigger a stagger

[twin wing]

also isnt this kinda good on autogun?

[flint sky]

I dont think the daemon host counts as a monstrosity as I didnt get a tick up on my challenge. Could be glitch tho

[robust meteor]

axe?

[native thorn]

I thought this was force sword specials

also axe yeah

[wide quest]

The more I look at my psyker, the more he looks like heimerdinger

[viscid matrix]

Some have gotten the penance from it

[cedar grove]

Force Sword alt fire doesn't give a fuck about carapace armor

[twin wing]

weird how they wouldnt count that as boss nyet kills me 90% faster than any other boss

[flint sky]

To answer the question though I think so yes

[autumn lark]

I think it has to be killed before it escapes

[flint sky]

Its best just waiting for a beast of nurgle

[viscid matrix]

I would think not, since it’s a seperate bar

[flint sky]

Damage is damage imo

[viscid matrix]

But it specifies health in the penance

[magic chasm]

Which staff let's you do the lightning hands?

[twin wing]

man jumpscared me @wide quest

[lethal plover]

surge

[viscid matrix]

Surge

[tepid nest]

surge

[native thorn]

surge, but be warned it's a support staff, not a murder staff

[flint sky]

Oh and fyi two monstrosities can spawn at the same time

[magic chasm]

From what I've seen it looks to murder a lot

[flint sky]

Had two beasts of nurgle earlier

[lethal plover]

two plague ogryns?

[viscid matrix]

Yep, I’ve had beast and daemonhost in the same area

[flint sky]

Took a long ass time to kill

[cedar grove]

Daemonhost counts as a monstrosity for penances / contracts. And it's the easiest way to get Malleus Monstronum. Provided you have a shield Ogryn to tank it

[native thorn]

it does good damage to some armored enemies but overall damage is low compared to other staves

It has godly cc though

[twin wing]

you do right click but not charge on surge right??

[native thorn]

generally

[viscid matrix]

Yep

[native thorn]

Feel free to charge one from behind cover if you wanna get higher damage bursts though

[cedar grove]

Surge staff is good armor piercing damage + stunning of elites. But piss poor at hordes

[flint sky]

I mean like two proper spawns rather than one boss and daemon host

[magic chasm]

I just rolled a psyker. It's difficult gameplay coming from Ogryn

[viscid matrix]

The charge isn’t much extra damage, like 40

[flint sky]

I didnt know that was possible

[burnt rampart]

You can kite daemonhosts

[cedar grove]

5 target cap in chain lightning + it doesn't kill unarmored enemies in one shock

[burnt rampart]

Dodging left and holding block

[flint sky]

What drew you to the class?

[night marten]

you're really squishy

[magic chasm]

The lightning hands

[viscid matrix]

6 and it can if you have +unarmoured and crit them

[burnt rampart]

Ogryn chad

We are blessed today

[flint sky]

Good surge staff is all you will be useful for past malice diff

[uncut violet]

Yo is it confirmed if rating of new weapon rolls is tied to rating of what you have or if it's tied to character level

[flint sky]

Welcome to psyker balance hell

[viscid matrix]

For no reason besides we have watp powers that are average at best

[cedar grove]

Voidstrike is still good. It's one of the best horde clearing weapons in game

[magic chasm]

I already miss my chonky boi

[native thorn]

Wisdom of crowds, homie. I've heard a lot more people say the opposite.

[viscid matrix]

Character level, you get 300 plus once you are level 30

[flint sky]

I know lol it was joke

[smoky linden]

sad clown

[uncut violet]

Thanks

[flint sky]

Lot of people play on malice only

[viscid matrix]

Tbh i hate it, cause surge staff is far too good cc

[burnt rampart]

I don’t like void management tbh

[native thorn]

they were specifically talking about higher difficulties

[burnt rampart]

Some really weird explosions when I use it

Plus the constant charging

[viscid matrix]

Majority of players only play malice

[magic chasm]

What's the melee weapon of choice round here

[burnt rampart]

Force

[native thorn]

depends on staff

[burnt rampart]

Dueling is cool tho

[cedar grove]

At higher difficulty the Veteran is going to be blowing up elites / specials with their bolter anyway. Clearing a horde / dropping ragers or crushers with your sword. is good to do.

[bitter orbit]

Tbh I find force to be underwhelming after doing mkV axe

[viscid matrix]

If you have a force sword with deflector, than you use that, not much of a choice tbh

[burnt rampart]

How much AP does power sword have

[magic chasm]

so if I was to use surge staff for instance

[burnt rampart]

Holy shit an axe player

[bitter orbit]

Dueling is still better than force

[burnt rampart]

Kill it now

[native thorn]

Personally I like dueling with surge

[viscid matrix]

The other melee weapons are too weak compared to a block bullets sword

[flint sky]

It's only good in one way is the issue

[bitter orbit]

Meh block bullet is overrated

[flint sky]

Staff cc slave or nothing

[runic hornet]

I was shocked when I saw how good the deflector->perils deflection ratio was

[viscid matrix]

It’s so good

[flint sky]

Whereas other classes get a fair few build options

[runic hornet]

I remember in the first beta instantly spiking to ~90% perils

[burnt rampart]

Still have yet to find one

[runic hornet]

Now you can revive in front of a full rifle squad

[viscid matrix]

It’s better when you have block on curios

[runic hornet]

and not give a shit

[burnt rampart]

I think I’ll run it on all my melees

[night shard]

Is there a way to check the mass off a voidstike secondary? I was practising in meatgrinder and I think it's 6 but I can't find a UI for it

[native thorn]

I agree to a degree

The perfect teamcomp has a surge psyker

But you don't necessarily need perfect

[flint sky]

Uh huh

That doesnt mean the class is good

[heady bramble]

Worth picking up? (if i like purge ofc)

[burnt rampart]

Yes

[flint sky]

Its wholly reliant on 3 weapon variants

[burnt rampart]

100%

[elder nova]

Yes

Nab that shit

[heady bramble]

cheers thanks homies

[burnt rampart]

That a good purg right there

[elder nova]

God tier

[flint sky]

Infested damage on purgatus sweet

[viscid matrix]

Stun locking dogs and muties is far to good

Forcing a bulwark to drop its shield is fucking god tier

[cedar grove]

The best damage mod on a Voidstrike is probably +Flak armor yeah? Cause you want it to be one shotting any chaf it hits

[burnt rampart]

Can purg left click stun mutants?

Iirc it can push ragers and maulers around

[cedar grove]

Only surge alt fire stuns mutants

[native thorn]

Also telling a flanking poxburster "no"

[gilded hatch]

what is the best psyker staff?

[viscid matrix]

Flak and crit, then get the crit per peril blessing

[viscid matrix]

That’s always amazing too

But melee weapons to do it

[bitter orbit]

Void and surge

[flint sky]

Surge for utility

[burnt rampart]

Poxburster can be dealt with reliably now

[bitter orbit]

Depends

[burnt rampart]

Just shove and dodge back

[cedar grove]

Just shove a burster + dodge backwards

[flint sky]

Some people swear by void

[gilded hatch]

i play mostly void staff

[tidal adder]

Surge for teams, voidstrike for solo and purgatus if you like the flame dot

[cedar grove]

it's easy, always doable, and removes it from the game

[native thorn]

yeah but is my team gonna do that?

[burnt rampart]

Does catch you on terrain sometimes tho

Elevation has fucked me

[burnt rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[elder nova]

I’ll admit I’m a purge enthusiast

[lethal plover]

purgatus main point is the staggering. the dot is only for later.

[viscid matrix]

Purga Flame dot is hot garbage, maxes out at like 250 damage per tick

[gilded hatch]

are there actually psykers that use the purge on higher difficultuies (4+)

[burnt rampart]

Usually I’m the one that run up and do it tbh

[elder nova]

Can’t get enough of it

[tidal adder]

Hes gonna wait till youre close and kill the pox

[gilded hatch]

it seems to be a noob weapon

[burnt rampart]

It’s kinda low damage for higher diff

[native thorn]

how you letting it get close when you got a zap

[tidal adder]

Why would you pock purgatus instead of sirge then

[lethal plover]

a lot actually. it is the best at staggering a whole horde in 180 degree

[burnt rampart]

Like you can cc but it takes a long ass time

[native thorn]

Skill issue tbh

[viscid matrix]

Flamer is about 2x stronger than a purga

[patent shale]

@viscid matrix are we talking the purgatus staff or the sith lightning one?

[random wolf]

It's still a Flamer.

[burnt rampart]

Might just opt for voidstrike or surge

[gilded hatch]

on higher difficulty you dont need stagger, you need to kill specials. Also surge does not stagger enough enemies

[flint sky]

Same dps as brain burst btw

[burnt rampart]

Flamer does a lot more damage

[lethal plover]

tell me when surge can stagger a giant horde

[random wolf]

Small price to pay for infinite ammo.

[heady bramble]

should i upgrade straight to gold or is there any reason to wait?

[tidal adder]

You were talking about coming close to push a guy?

[random wolf]

You can keep it going for absurdly long

[burnt rampart]

No

[gilded hatch]

void has more scale potential because it does not matter if there are 3 or 10 enemies in one area. they all get damage

[burnt rampart]

Hold onto your mats

[native thorn]

Surge doesn't stagger, it stuns. It stuns specials that other people can't stagger

[burnt rampart]

Full crafting is coming

[frail shuttle]

Emprah knows we need it

[native thorn]

I was talking about poxbursters running at my teammates and them not pushing. I can zap and prevent a ton of damage

[viscid matrix]

I would rather a zealot with flamer, and regen ammo on elite kill with vet removes ammo cost from the equation

[limpid lily]

Kind of wish there was a separate option for eyebrows but this Saltzpyre one looks really good

[tidal adder]

When its a considerably small “giant horde”

[lethal plover]

void is great in a straight line. but it was because void takes way too long to control a horde from all different directions that I now use flame more

[gilded hatch]

currently i play mostly the highest difficulty (5). i don't understand why psykers bring surge there

[patent shale]

@burnt rampart when is full crafting coming?

[gilded hatch]

void is way easier to scale damage

[tidal adder]

Ic, my bad

[burnt rampart]

Soon™️

[random wolf]

There's a lot of "it depends" with weapons anyway. Team composition and all

[burnt rampart]

What do you play as

[tidal adder]

Do you charge it?

[spiral remnant]

I’ve only ever seen 20% max hp curios, but I saw a source say they had up to 25% hp?

[native thorn]

Do you understand the concept of a utility class

[runic hornet]

do people have any success with damnation pubs?

[flint sky]

Because its far more useful to the team to stun high priority targets

[runic hornet]

I have zero success with it

[lethal plover]

charge if I want to kill, uncharged if I need stagger quick

[runic hornet]

it's always >pugs walk into enemy rifles >die

[flint sky]

No do premade

[frail shuttle]

The satisfaction of all the headshot sounds and the hole that you leave behind is so nice though

[gilded hatch]

i know. but i prefer to kill specials and elites instead of stunning

[viscid matrix]

Wtf

[smoky linden]

Zealot main here reminding you that you are all heretics, witches, mutants, and abominations unto the Emperor.

[gilded hatch]

i share my build moment

[tidal adder]

Ic, does the left click hit multiple too? I couldnt get into using purgatus

[lethal plover]

true, like bowling ball

[runic hornet]

bowling balllllll

[native thorn]

keep running off cliffs homie

[flint sky]

You ain't killing elites efficiently at high diffs with a void staff

[frail shuttle]

Nice Strike!

[runic hornet]

it's dark colored, it's heavy, it goes through enemies

and knocks them around like tenpins

[gilded hatch]

true, i combine it with high bb

[main jay]

Yeah, only low intensity tho

[smoky linden]

I shall, just like the brave, fearless, and pure Ogryn

[lethal plover]

I actually don't use left click all that much. because if you want quick stagger you use it like surge, just charge a bit

[burnt rampart]

Ahhhh another bb spec

[flint sky]

lol bb is hot ass past malice