psyker-class

[potent echo]

Its great on malice

[sick kindle]

The only value I really get out of BB is being able to break Line of Sight, dip back behind cover and secure on a special that just barely scraped by a vet. Bombers usually being the culprits.

[hexed viper]

its too slow of a charge if that's the case. hence why vets are the better elite clear

[jolly wasp]

What made you think that? The class description in the game pretty accurately describes a CC heavy support class.

Is this just an assumption based off your own ideas of how Warhammer should work?

[modern grove]

I agree

[zinc phoenix]

I think even with the damage boost for force weapon meaning the sword swings I still want my peril reduction more than I want more damage from sword/void. Usually i want to chain more void bloops at the horde and that’s what caps me out on peril. Harder hitting void bloops does little for me because it’s usually OHK regardless on the horde entities

[bleak tulip]

it literally says " good against elites"

[tender cipher]

I mean Psyker is good against elites.

[potent echo]

10% coherency bonus

[tender cipher]

Just depends on your context and definition of good.

[modern grove]

A CC heavy support class whose ability is high damage single target burst? Seems opposite to the "design"

[jolly wasp]

No it doesn't, the website description says "Effective Vs Elites", while Vet says "Good vs Elites and Specials". The in game description doesn't even use that language, and really helps outline that Psyker was always meant as a support.

[tender cipher]

@lunar garden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSOBeD1GC_Y&ab_channel=AdultSwim

[lunar garden]

Good means "bueno"

[zinc phoenix]

And a giant shout that KDs pretty much everything

[bleak tulip]

I don't know if I've seen it be described as a cc heavy support class anywhere in the official stuff because thats stupid, a game with 4 classes doesn't need a support class

[potent echo]

I'm imagining high level sweats be raging at the psyker for leaving coherency "my breakpoints!"

[jolly wasp]

So basically you just decided in your head how it should work and ignored all the descriptions Fatshark provided, and then became upset when the game didn't align with your assumptions based on nothing?

[tender cipher]

That tends to be how most people operate.

[potent echo]

Calm down

[bleak tulip]

not to mention difficulty 2and 3 dont play like support because BB actually kills

[lunar garden]

One of psyker's traits should be to load BB faster for less damage.

[lethal plover]

CC means surge. Be horde clear. Use purge

[hexed viper]

technically the ogryn is the support class with their passive toughnwaa buffs and being able to revive without being knocked out of it

[modern grove]

That's your ult, not the ability that's up ALL THE TIME.

[jolly wasp]

Are you beside me? I can be calm and call out stupidity at the same time

[modern grove]

So you're trolling?

[bleak tulip]

I mean so is vet in that regard, pinning support on one aspect of a class is a little limited imo

[potent echo]

No he's calm

[lunar garden]

Who is calm?

[hexed viper]

a vet can't revive and get hit at the same time, nor do they give you a defense buff

[zinc phoenix]

It’s pretty good ult tho, definitely come in clutch for rescuing team more than once

[modern grove]

I definitely agree that it's a good ult.

[bleak tulip]

no I mean vet gives out goodies in coherency

[hexed viper]

everyone does

[bleak tulip]

that's my point

[lunar garden]

Vet onii-chan?

[static epoch]

Guys they're literally talking about how to deal with armored specials and elites in the Veterans channel right now.

[hexed viper]

that's not support shit though

[static epoch]

🤣

[bleak tulip]

use a bolter :)

I answered their question

[lunar garden]

Only Vets and Zealots can use Bolters.

[hexed viper]

pretty much

[zinc phoenix]

And it’s much more a CC ult that supports the team than the zealot or vet ults. Ogryn one is very similar and ogryn is definitely a team play/support class based on perks

[hexed viper]

we know

[bleak tulip]

las weapons aren't ultra viable later because they can't do shit against cara

[muted haven]

Lasgun > bolter

[static epoch]

This is a very good point, and probably where they are headed. But I think most team mates of said Veteran would prefer he have something that can shoot fast and quickly knock down all ranged units.

[potent echo]

Bolter is only good if you don't have to be the one playing it

[static epoch]

Whenver I'm with one of those, that's when the game is the easiest.

Take zero damage on Heresy.

[modern grove]

I'd rather have a CC ability and a damage ult than the other way around and have a useless ability on higher difficulties.

[hexed viper]

a vet with a bolter is the best elite clear

[frail spire]

does the 5-15% dmg increase to force weapon attacks just mean everything that uses peril? im confused

[hexed viper]

force sword and staves

[static epoch]

Am I mistaken or is that the slow firing heavy chonky sounding gun?

[bleak tulip]

force sword and staves

argh too late lmao

[lunar garden]

Staves > bolter

[hexed viper]

not for elite clear

[maiden wolf]

I think making the charge time for BB scale with enemy health would be fair, although being able to BB multiple targets at once would be awesome.

[zinc phoenix]

Zealot only one that has a CC ability, everyone else has a damage ability that doesn’t scale iirc

[lunar garden]

But we stagger 😦

[hexed viper]

there's a reason psykers are used for cc in T4+ and not elite clear

[pearl thicket]

“50% more ranged power” scales

[zinc phoenix]

Mostly what I want from BB is a KD in addition to the damage

[static epoch]

CC to me is anything that stops an entity for acting, even a minor stagger is CC.

[zinc phoenix]

As you pointed out before that’s the ult. Grenades are the ability

[lunar garden]

BBing multiple targets should be a trait. At least 2 dreg or scab elites.

[frail spire]

when u guys say psyker is used for cc, is void strike considered cc? or would surge / purgatus be better

[lunar garden]

5 if horde poxwalkers

[pearl thicket]

I think you’re confusing me with someone else I just got here

[marble marten]

Thoughts

[hexed viper]

surge is best for cc, voidstrike is best for add/horde clear

[jolly wasp]

surge/purg are better CC, void is if you want to pretend you are a veteran, but just be worse at it overall

[bleak tulip]

still hoping for right click to become a small AOE that spreads the (hopefully by then buffed) damage across multiple baseic enemies

[frail spire]

so basicly people who use void should just roll vet?

[lunar garden]

Very nice

[maiden wolf]

Maybe it could be based on cleave resistance?

[zinc phoenix]

In fairness you guys have very similar avatars 🤣 #psyker-class message

[untold kestrel]

vets are for horde clear now?

[jolly wasp]

Can probably clear everything with a void still, but if your team is picky they would want a vet instead

[lunar garden]

That would make sense. Still, blowing two heads instead of one is better 🙂

[bleak tulip]

if a team is that picky they suck ass, you can clear 5 easily with void lmao

[untold kestrel]

so much misonformation gets spewed in this channel lol

[jolly wasp]

oh no horde clear! not like every other class can't do that

[bleak tulip]

5 isnt super hard

[zinc phoenix]

No he’s an idiot. Void is incredible horde clear that also does heavy KD, it’s insanely strong

[candid hawk]

how is a void staff playing a psyker like a vet rofl

[lunar garden]

What's the point of Psyker if Vet is better?

[pearl thicket]

orang

[jolly wasp]

just roll a vet with lasgun and powersword, now you are better than a psyker with voidstaff

[bleak tulip]

also you can stagger shit like maulers and crushers while doing horde clear with void

[static epoch]

i like it

[lunar garden]

O shit, you are here?

[pearl thicket]

hi

[jolly wasp]

bolter + powersword also good if you got the perks for it

[untold kestrel]

different roles. invis is just dumb. psyker is cc, vet is best elite killer

[candid hawk]

Theres some specials and elites that vet is weak to that a psyker can kill much faster and vice versa

[hexed viper]

needs Transfer Peril

[lunar garden]

Hello my sibling.

[maiden wolf]

Agreed, I also think Psyker needs more non-BB build options. Perhaps if Warp Charge on Soul Blaze kill worked for enemies that dies from any source while soulblazed.

[last sleet]

Some say 380 is the best you can currently get.

[jolly wasp]

yeah that void charge up time is totally worth the .5 second stagger

not like a vet can kill 2 elites before void fully charges.. oh wait

[pearl thicket]

do I know u from somewhere?

[untold kestrel]

if trying to stagger then you dont even need to charge it

[modern grove]

imo BB right click should be the force wave ult but weaker, give us a different ult.

[bleak tulip]

someone got something higher

[static epoch]

Yeah it's primarily horde clear and deal with ranged units, secondary is the stagger effect - whatever that workson.

[urban plume]

wow

[zinc phoenix]

IDK that vet is better, it just brings different stuff to the table. And melee wise psyker has waaaay better block endurance than any other class besides planted shield ogryn

[lunar garden]

We've played a few times. That's it. I have you in my steam friends. We use to play Vermintide 2

[jolly wasp]

yeah, now its effectiveness is 1/100th of surge lmao, surge even got a big buff in damage at launch and can one-shot specials at full charge

[pastel spire]

I can't see any difference between the stats on staffs. Quell Speed, blast radius etc doesnt matter if 80% or 20% they do same thing. They must be bugged or just fluff for collecting numbers

[untold kestrel]

look im not trying to claim that void is as good cc as surge. are you another one of those that makes shit up to argue about?

[pearl thicket]

oh I thought it was vermintide but checked and saw you weren’t in the vt2 server

[gray kelp]

the one time i get a good staff roll

[zinc phoenix]

If BB did an area stagger in addition to the damage it’d be pretty much perfect

[jolly wasp]

everytime void gets shit on the psykers who wanna play damage roles come out of the woodwork, but reality is vet is just better at the same thing

[hexed viper]

the staff is invisble. can't see it

[candid hawk]

If your using void staff to kill elites your doing it wrong lol. You can use a void staff to kill elites but I’d rather use brain burst and just right off the bat 1 shot them or 2 shot them depending on the difficulty

[bleak tulip]

youre giving yourself too much credit homie

[shrewd plinth]

Does picknmix not show progress like the other penances? I've come super close at least a bunch of times but it still only shows 0/5. If tracking is broken for me and I've probably done it without it registering I'm gonna be pissed.

[zinc phoenix]

You aren’t supposed to use BB all the time just like you aren’t supposed to use grenades all the time

[maiden wolf]

Good idea

[jolly wasp]

BRAIN BURST HAHAHAHAH thanks for the good laugh my man, the objectively worst ability in the game

[candid hawk]

Hey if you can’t dodge I guess it’s bad lol

[last sleet]

Ha, I didn't belive it myself, But people here have said it. My opinion was always: max is prob 400, but rng gets more and more unlikely the higher above 375 you get.

[lunar garden]

I left that server a while back. You got like 100 or something hours on Darktide. I wanted to invite you to game but didn't have a headset to talk. So I just kept to myself, sibling

[candid hawk]

Max for a grey is 380.

[untold kestrel]

yeah 380 is highest i have on a weapon, havent seen higher yet

[lunar garden]

Who thinks we need more staves and swords for Psyker?

[jolly wasp]

the only time BB is good is when your vet sucks

[gray kelp]

someone posted 385 heavy sword recently

[hexed viper]

2 swords should be coming here soon

[lunar garden]

I remember seeing a glimpse of a two handed sword.

[pearl thicket]

ah

[marble marten]

bb?

[candid hawk]

Then go play vet and stay in the vet channel lol. You clearly haven’t played above malice

[modern grove]

I think the math says 390

[lunar garden]

I'd like that.

[candid hawk]

I haven’t seen anything higher then 380 personally.

[hexed viper]

brain burst

[lunar garden]

Brain burst

[marble marten]

oh ok

[maiden wolf]

Definitely, Non-staff Psyker uniques might be cool too. I'd have to check the warhammer wiki for any that exist

[untold kestrel]

just a vet thats mad they sprayed ammo into a hoard that voidstrike already killed

[lunar garden]

Psyker > vet

[untold kestrel]

different roles

[lunar garden]

Ban me if I'm wrong.

[hexed viper]

situational

[jolly wasp]

personal preference isn't objective

[modern grove]

inb4 first psyker DLC class is elite killer

[lunar garden]

Dammit, facts are objectifying

[untold kestrel]

vet is best elite kills, psyker can bb the 1 shots, and either cc, or horde/cc otherwise

[candid hawk]

Idk as someone who has played a vet and psyker to 30 and upgraded my weapons to 475+ on each character they fill different roles and complement each other. Whatever a vet is weak to a psyker can kill faster with brain bust and Vice versus

[lunar garden]

needs to balance this game and give us our CRAFTING SYSTEM!

[untold kestrel]

i personally love having a vet in my party so

[gray kelp]

I think psyker is on life support from one op perk and having good staff options, psyker base kit is arguably the worst designed out of the 4 classes we have at least IMO

[last sleet]

That voidstrike almost killed but ultimately just pushed down and scattered all over the place*

[untold kestrel]

someone doesnt aim for the weak spot i see

[hexed viper]

i've seen groups talk about needing 2 ogryn, a vet, and a psyker, or an ogryn, 2 vet, and a psyker. zealot is getting trashed quite a bit

[pastel spire]

I think psykers need some buff because endgame difficulty they seem little use compared to other classes that kill everything but way more survivability. It just doesnt feel like a glass cannon. THe glass part but not the DPS

[lunar garden]

Vets kit revolves around throwing grenades

[last sleet]

Vet is objectively stronger than psyker.

[lunar garden]

Not very sniper-resk

[candid hawk]

The best thing they could do for psyker is add some scaling to bb

[hexed viper]

someone doesn't aim head level

[bleak tulip]

or charge enough

[candid hawk]

If your BB scaled with your power or something I could see it being a it more in line with others

[gray kelp]

and yeah voidstrike is not leaving hordes alive if you're aiming for head

[maiden wolf]

Has anyone tried creating a melee focused Psyjer build? I've hear people discuss the MK5 axes

[lunar garden]

I prefer to use surge against ragers and Armour. Let's me create some space.

[maiden wolf]

TBH it could just scale with level

[lunar garden]

Never tried it. I was only able to play the pre-order beta for a few days

[gray kelp]

kinetic deflection op, melee psyker is good

[hexed viper]

clearing hordes with a voidstrike staff by hitting head height is crazy especially when used with Transfer Peril. You have an unlimited amount that you can fire as long as you're hitting weak spots with that perk

[last sleet]

As psyker, while leveling you wonder why your F is just a lame push that doesn't do anything, then you start doing heresy and you realize, it's just in line with your BB which also doesn't do anything.

[pastel spire]

I think I picked the worst class for sure. Time to make a Veteran or Ogryn to crush endgame as they seem to roll through without trouble

[random wolf]

I don't know dog

[hexed viper]

the 2 most sought after classes. zealot is dead last from what i've seen

[random wolf]

Having an infinite ammo flamer sounds like fun to me.

[lunar garden]

Psykers F really do need a make over.

[random wolf]

Also not having to aim for pox hounds

[gray kelp]

ogryn is based, you have access to like 3 weapons total so every high roll wep you get is good 🙂

[random wolf]

Just tag it and hold LMB.

[sick kindle]

My push just becomes free vent for more staff use. Out of all options, the one I use most is CD reduction. Since BB currently sucks, bottom isn't worth using. If you're not using purgatus, no point in middle. Sooooo

[maiden wolf]

I've heard some complaints about survivability ffrom ogryns, they seem to have a tough time with sustainin. themselves

[candid hawk]

Yeah it could, i just feel like thats too simple. doesnt matter though, needing 3-4 brain bursts in some cases on damnation sucks thats the only complaint i have about psyker

[violet pollen]

Y'all think I should do HP or toughness increase?

[candid hawk]

fine as is

[pastel spire]

every 4+ I do I die a gazillion times whereas zealots and veterans just tank through

[gray kelp]

2 hp 1 wound IMO

[lunar garden]

The push should be stronger and do damage depending on the amount of Peril you are quelling.

[violet pollen]

I've got like 230hp and my build is about warp stacks for toughness Regen and special ability doing dot dmg

[bleak tulip]

kinetic barrage lets you fry crushers when your vet is stuck in melee again and crying about not being able to shoot

its not entirely bad

at least it makes you waste less time on bb

[hexed viper]

don;t use the warp charges regen toughness feat. use the quell feat or the warp kill feat

[candid hawk]

Right now theres like 3 builds i know of, the one that is close to what your describing is what id say is the weakest and least played of the playstyles

[lunar garden]

Kinetic barrage should scale with the amount of peril you are quelling.

[maiden wolf]

It would be great if they made BB charge scale woth enemy health, so weak enemies die faster, but you can one-shot beefier ones with a longer charge up to a certain health threshhold.

[violet pollen]

I didn't test it, but I assume my staff kills count as warp kills?

[gray kelp]

but fr though considering playing another class until we get more crafting features, the RNG shop is especially bad for psyker I feel

[last sleet]

It's not great that our F becomes just a secondary vent button.

[pastel spire]

what is a good build for 4+ without lightning staff

[candid hawk]

So in ypical vermintide style, the only reason i like power being a factor is because then you can try and focus on break points

[sick kindle]

I mean yeah? I really do hope they tune BB some more and give it scaling. I don't want my utility to be Unchained Sienna 'Press incase about to die from overexposure'

[lunar garden]

Banana-space monkey is up to something

[hexed viper]

uhhhh lightning staff

[maiden wolf]

why is that?

[candid hawk]

i feel like quell is more controlable

[hexed viper]

gaining warp charges is too slow unless you have both perks that give it to you passively

[violet pollen]

The blast to reduce 50% peril? I've got ascendent blaze so it'll weaken trash mobs

[candid hawk]

warp stack one your relying on the coherency perk and actually being able to BB in that moment might be tough

where as with quell i can equip a force sword and quell mid combat

[violet pollen]

BB?

[candid hawk]

brain burst

[hexed viper]

brain burst

[violet pollen]

Ah

[lunar garden]

💣

[sour tiger]

wait the force sword quells?

[sick kindle]

Counter argument: If you aren't playing to coherency advantage you aren't winning Heresy and Damnation.

[hexed viper]

only way to gain charges is from brain burst or passive feats

[lunar garden]

Yes

[sick kindle]

And if you say you are, you are a damn liar

[violet pollen]

Well I have it so kills,hits, and soul fire kills can give my warp stacks

[maiden wolf]

R on force sword quells

[candid hawk]

but coherncy advantage im speaking of is gaining a warp charge on a 4% chance per kill

[zinc phoenix]

Problem with the quell one is that you aren’t really getting much out of it in melee combat when you need it most. Warp charge one if you’re in melee you’ve got a decent shot of triggering a BB from a hit or warp charge from coherence and getting a big bump of toughness

[violet pollen]

I like the perk that gives me a chance to BB on hits

[zinc phoenix]

The passive quell does give you toughness but slowly

[candid hawk]

personally i dont use the 10% chance on damage to brain burst

[zinc phoenix]

And while in melee your peril is gonna be going down over time

[frail spire]

if i get 2 warps real quick does the 30% toughness stack so i get 60?

[candid hawk]

but i can see where its useful in staff builds

[zinc phoenix]

Why not, the other stuff isn’t even that good in that tier 😂

[last sleet]

Already kinda is that.

[zinc phoenix]

From what I’ve seen yes

[violet pollen]

Well the flame staff seems to be considered multiple hits on secondary attack,so I can stack soul blaze and occasionally pop people or specials

[lunar garden]

[hexed viper]

if you dont get hit during the charge up, yes

[sick kindle]

It doesn't stack, it just refreshes the buff timer.

[candid hawk]

so personally this is what i use for a build to maximise my casts of brain burst

[zinc phoenix]

Psyker would be more fun if they removed the cooldown from the BB on hit trait 🦀

[lunar garden]

Which trait do you guys think needs the most rebalancing?

[hexed viper]

dont rely on bb.

[violet pollen]

My build is basically throw as much soul blaze out as possible and BB big boys

[candid hawk]

but if i was running a staff build i would run something more like this so i can gain warp charges from staff use more often

[violet pollen]

I'm using that but first column is top perk^

[candid hawk]

TBH i dont get the hate on BB i regularly do damnation no problem using the BB build

[violet pollen]

Second is reduced peril on stacks

[candid hawk]

staff when theres no specials or elites, BB the specials and elites, then back to staff/melle

[hexed viper]

elites should be dead while you clear adds and cc if your vet is doing their job

[zinc phoenix]

🙄

[violet pollen]

Bold to assume a random will do thier job

[hexed viper]

if you have time to bb an elite, your vet isn't doing their job

[candid hawk]

Vet isnt strong against everything, take bulwarks for example if your not brain bursting that your throwing

[pearl thicket]

I’d rather my vet shoot ranged enemies than elites

[zinc phoenix]

If there’s two dozen elites on the field vet can’t simultaneously kill all of them

[hexed viper]

surge staff lowers the shield when bulwark gets ccd

[sick kindle]

I think the frustration comes out of the fact that the only value BB gives is to kill. It doesn't slow, stagger or CC anything. If it's not dead by the time you've used it and that special is still active, that is effective time wasted.

[zinc phoenix]

There’s plenty of elite killing to go around

[violet pollen]

BB is good to catch specials who run and hide,or bulwark

[candid hawk]

maulers, vets cant weak spot, crushers you can BB stagger and kill them easily, flamers have large heath pools and die to BB in 1 hit etc

[sick kindle]

Whereas the abilities the other classes have still give value even if they do not explicitly kill. And I think that's the crux of the issue

[pearl thicket]

also it kills half of the specials and elites in the game

[zinc phoenix]

It gives a stagger on the target, it’d be nice if it gave a small aoe stagger

[untold kestrel]

only 1 shots like 4 kinds on damnation

[violet pollen]

Flame staff = CC
BB = special killing

[candid hawk]

I mean seriously i feel like people play malice and start gviing advice saying BB is bad lol

[zinc phoenix]

It’d help if they boosted the damage enough to OHK the dog on all difficulties tbh

Or lowered the dog hp

[violet pollen]

Being able to stagger with flame staff is 10/10

[vagrant cedar]

BB can also give 15% dmg boost to your team to deal with special monsters

[zinc phoenix]

Idk I feel like flame staff does what void strike does but worse

[violet pollen]

Elaborate

[zinc phoenix]

Both staggers but void staggers harder and both kill but void kills way faster

[candid hawk]

Vermintide was all about building items to hit breakpoints and specialize your role. I wish BB had an opportunity to meet break points so you can gear yourself even more towards certain specials

[violet pollen]

I can use flame staff to stagger trash and res team

[hexed viper]

surge is the better cc staff and voidstrike is the better horde clear imo

[zinc phoenix]

Also you can launch a void, melee, launch a void and not lose any time. But with flame it has that long wind up time to being effective

[hexed viper]

if you have an ogryn they should picking up the downed teammates because of their passive

[violet pollen]

Once more,I expect everyone to be brain dead so I try to compensate

[candid hawk]

anybody can block while they revive though, so psykers are actually suprisingly strong in this role if you have the blocking generates peril

[hexed viper]

you need a perk for that while ogryns have it passively

[zinc phoenix]

Psyker are honestly better than ogryn for revive especially if they have the holy “block ranged damage” weapon trait

[candid hawk]

you can get high peril for a strong stagger from your F, walk up and block while you revive

[modern grove]

https://tenor.com/view/im-in-dange-the-simpsons-ralph-wiggum-meme-gif-17180214

[violet pollen]

I built around cc and survival because my team constantly fucks off and doesn't do thier job

[last sleet]

BB would already be a bit better (but still not good) if it granted a charge on every completed cast, regardless of kill.

[candid hawk]

a lot of people dont realize they have a job to do

[zinc phoenix]

Holy f this is indeed the case

[candid hawk]

they just go in and hack and slash

[violet pollen]

I'm like "y'all I'll kill the bulwark, just cover me" and they're like, fucking with a demon

[chilly cobalt]

Do we full charge the surge staff or partial charge only

[zinc phoenix]

Tbf hack and slash is gud

[candid hawk]

for malice 😛

[zinc phoenix]

As close to no charge as possible because the damage sucks anyway and the stagger is full with barely any charge

[modern grove]

DT kinda trains them that way though, no strategy or skill required at all until T3.

[violet pollen]

I'd like it if BB didn't use 45% peril on weather opponents

Weaker

[chilly cobalt]

Ah gotcha

[last sleet]

Like, you take a surge staff, and it proccs on an elite, cool you did some damage, but no stack. You procc on some trash, you get a stack, but the kill was meaningless.

[zinc phoenix]

just don’t get hit (TM)

[violet pollen]

Which I know it's a special killer, but sometimes I have to use it to kill gun boys for 10 minutes because my team rushed

[candid hawk]

VT did that too, first tiers of difficulty was easy then you would jump in difficulty

[tender cipher]

Tip of the day: Check what is actually in rotation before queuing for quick play 😦

[chilly cobalt]

How do you guys deal with BB falling off on higher diffs not being able to one shot certain specials and elites with it? Do you follow up with staff?

[candid hawk]

Hey all im saying is, always dash left on a mutant

[chilly cobalt]

Or go back for multiple bb

[zinc phoenix]

No check, only queue 😡

[violet pollen]

Tip of the day: use the buddy system ( you'll live longer)

[modern grove]

Did someone say Repair?

[runic gate]

The whole team should be on specials with you. You do 50-80% dmg and they finish

[tender cipher]

Endless Horde + Surge staff isn't exactly a friendly set up.

[violet pollen]

Flame staff go brrrrrrr

[zinc phoenix]

“Look at me I’m stunning six pox walkers”
“That’s great, now about the other two hundred”

[last sleet]

On higher difficulties, I'm sad to say, you stop being a "kill dangerous stuff"-specialist. You become "equip a surge staff, and spam left click to keep stuff stunned so others can safely kill it"-specialist. Ever since I started heresy, I've only ever used BB on very distant snipers.

[candid hawk]

i love the good ole pox walker at the bottom of an elevator personally

[tender cipher]

That's what happened on that desert map where you have to put the four power charges to stop the windmill or whatever.

[hexed viper]

just dont run endless horde

[modern grove]

Is it weird that I want every map to be endless horde?

[shrewd plinth]

Honestly trying to get picknmix is just making me want to never play this game again.

[zinc phoenix]

Altho tbh surge + chainsword would probably work really well

[hexed viper]

extremely

[formal osprey]

Is heavy laz pistol useful for anything?

[zinc phoenix]

You’d get that chainsword horde clear and could surge elites

[hexed viper]

useful for dismantling for creds

[candid hawk]

not for a psyker IMO

[zinc phoenix]

Makes you into cool guy Han Solo

[tender cipher]

Yeah, I think so, but the psyker running the surge staff kept surging the UNARMORED pox walkers.

[formal osprey]

I got a 380 lol

[violet pollen]

What's y'all thought on ascendant blaze?

[celest hedge]

i think the heavy las pistol is just bad in general

[tender cipher]

So I had to cover him as he did zero DPS and zero actual clear.

[spice maple]

Endless horde with veterans who can share wallhacks and use the perk which gives faster BB charge up. I did it first try once there were enough gunners present.

[zinc phoenix]

Gotta let him know that electricity is good against metal 😂

[pearl thicket]

was talking about damnation

[formal osprey]

I hate it but im sure you will have a bunch of people tell you its awesome

[celest hedge]

it doesn't really feel any different to use than a las rifle, maybe if they reduced the hip fire spread the las pistol could be nice

[violet pollen]

Why you hate it?

[inland citrus]

Any recommendations on getting the cliff hanger penance?

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah my friends have already gotten frustreated enough with the game to stop playing til it gets patched more so rip

[zinc phoenix]

There’s a steam guide for it

[modern grove]

Soulfire MVP

[violet pollen]

With warp battery,it does decent at keeping Trash mobs under control

[hexed viper]

you should have 0 issues with that penance now that it's at 7 and not 20.... but, i will be helpful and say the push attack with the Force Sword can also knock people off ledges if your F doesn't do the job

[zinc phoenix]

But not as good as just void striking them

[spice maple]

Most people are chill with trying that one out since it isn't throwing like other penances. I did it on throneside just waiting at the first long hallway. If you ask for some penance runs on heresy I'm sure you can manage it.

[candid hawk]

the foundry mission at the end is a good spot

[violet pollen]

I'll stick to my flames

[zinc phoenix]

The problem with 3/4ths of the psyker tools is that the alternative is void strike and void strike is just better

[lethal plover]

Nah. Flame build does 180

[formal osprey]

Ok, heres why I dont like it. Clearing hordes is not hard and it doesnt help you with elites. I have a sword for killing hordes I have a gun for killing at range and I have BB for elites.

[hexed viper]

i can't play it until it gets patched more

[inland citrus]

Yeah I've just had the issue of the f ability not pushing far enough even when they're close to the ledge

[spice maple]

I'd consider flamer staff if Zealot couldn't horde clear just as well if not better.

[hexed viper]

force sword can fix that

[modern grove]

Are emperor gifts broken now?

[chilly cobalt]

Damn. This is what we call in the industry and buisness of having fun, crinky cronge

Really sucks

[inland citrus]

Gotcha I just switched back to it from chain sword. Thanks for the help peeps

[formal osprey]

The dueling swords push is a very quick knockback punch, I used it with my F to finish it

[zinc phoenix]

That said my zealot tends toward thunder hammer with bolter rather than flamer

[modern grove]

psyker bolter when?

[zinc phoenix]

Psyker with chain sword and bolter would be dope ngl

[hexed viper]

heresy

[modern grove]

force chain sword?

[zinc phoenix]

Oh man even better

Glowing fire AND rev? My god what couldn’t you kill?!

[hexed viper]

oh man even more heresy 🤣

[modern grove]

Psyker: Saving the devout with the power of heresy.

[zinc phoenix]

According to zealot yes this is the case

[hexed viper]

speaking of heresy i don't quite get the crafting system.. isn't it heresy to craft shit?

[zinc phoenix]

Tech priest doing it so not heresy 🤷‍♀️

[hexed viper]

yes, but that is tech priest's job

isn't it heresy if you're not a tech priest?

[spice maple]

Tech priest is modifying a bit and not full on creating

[zinc phoenix]

I guess that explains why the manufactorum is so full of gd heretics

[hexed viper]

that;s why i was surprised to learn this game was even getting a crafting system 🤣

[molten kindle]

damn i hate how wearing a hood makes my character bald

[spice maple]

that's why you must become bald

[molten kindle]

:(

[hexed viper]

that fine silk against the headcap is just mint

[zinc phoenix]

They’re definitely wearing some kind of poorly made wool

[spice maple]

I might try the Trauma staff just to see if I can get it to work on Damnation at least once

[zinc phoenix]

Silk is super thin, this stuff is bulk af

[hexed viper]

it's the itch that keeps the psykers sane

[zinc phoenix]

“Not sure if lice or just wool”

[modern grove]

The voices tell me that hoods are better.

[violet pollen]

My psych has to sane,gotta baby sit the 3 other players

[zinc phoenix]

Health + some wounds to compensate for difficulty

Ok guys let’s restart the great debate on health vs toughness

[hexed viper]

health and wounds. toughness is a +

[violet pollen]

I like the hp

[hexed viper]

until i hit level 30, i'm running curios that strictly have xp gain

[violet pollen]

Got about 230hp

[spice maple]

The toughness mitigation, is it based on percentage of toughness or total toughness?

[hexed viper]

scroll up to read our hour long bitch fest about BB lol

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve seen people say both with no one providing proof either way

[pearl thicket]

I really don’t like how the xp ones work, you can’t get decent ones until like level 22 and at that point it doesn’t do much for you

[formal osprey]

Im sure it cant be any different than the 14 day long bitchfest about BB since people started the game 😛

[hexed viper]

it helps me get to 30 that much faster. I'm at a 12% xp gain right now

[sick kindle]

Toughness. Most corruption sources you encounter do percentage based damage and your ability to recover from wounds is also percentage based. Therefore adding a few numbers to the bar doesn't really matter, while a more readily available, cheaper to replace hitpoint pool is just sitting right there.

[pearl thicket]

I’ve maxed all my classes and the most I’ve ever had was 8%

[midnight forum]

So what does psyker do at higher levels when he's no longer "specialist killer"?

[zinc phoenix]

Highly recommend revolver + dueling sword while leveling. Gives you a good mix of durable melee and elite kill. You also want to take the trait that lets you block with peril rather than stamina to become an untouchable block tank. Force sword also good because you can hit the special and one tap most of the armored enemies

[spice maple]

CC MACHINE

[hexed viper]

cc

[violet pollen]

CC

[spice maple]

Glad to see everyone on the same page

[midnight forum]

Oh... just poxwalkers?

[twilit mantle]

Just kill

[pine iris]

let's talk about all the reasons how the lasgun is viable but not desirable for running psyker for a few hours

[twilit mantle]

Just kill
Everything

[spice maple]

Psyker is pretty good at clutching solo as well

[deft wave]

crowd control

[zinc phoenix]

If you’re gonna psyker gun you should clearly go revolver

[twilit mantle]

Psyker best class

[cyan echo]

fr

[hexed viper]

cc in general. surge staff stuns everything

[deft wave]

well that probably for vets

[modern grove]

I'm convinced we certainly have the biggest toolkit, at least.

[zinc phoenix]

Vets hog all the ammo and revolver is highly ammo efficient, super accurate and daggum high impact

[twilit mantle]

We are the best

[deft wave]

does block efficiency works on peril?

[midnight forum]

I am lvl 30 vet that seeks true knowledge about warp - hence my class now being psyker

[hexed viper]

think of it as Smite from DnD

[zinc phoenix]

It does an immense amount of armor ignoring damage sorta like melee brain burst. Go check it out in the meat grinder. It can do about 1k+ to something like the bulwark

[pine iris]

There are no psyker custom emotes. Fat Shark hates psyker confirmed

[modern grove]

That way lies heresy.

[deft wave]

it hits really hard

[modern grove]

Didn't even need that to confirm.

[vagrant cedar]

xp curious as useless dude..

[zinc phoenix]

Here is the truest knowledge of the warp: it is full of 🅱️enis

[vagrant cedar]

they give what, extra 2-4%?

[barren schooner]

Is there a way to accomplish the penance 'Going out with a bang' easily ? I'm a level 27 Psyker and I still did not manage to get it
Anyone can help ?

[modern grove]

I mean, Slaanesh.

[zinc phoenix]

Also nurgle

[modern grove]

You don't want to know what Nurgle does with them.

[twilit mantle]

No, it is hell

[modern grove]

Most of them are.

[zinc phoenix]

You could join heresy maps solo and wait til you find a bunch of shotgun mobs in a horde then blow yourself up while next to em. It reliably OHKs shotgun guys

[barren schooner]

[spice maple]

Run the purgation staff (the flamer one) stay at high peril until you are surrounded by berserkers then explode. The staff will keep the non-elites stunned and far away from you so that you aren't body blocked. It won't do so much damage that you outright kill the elites before they close in on you. I also recommend endless hordes for more enemies.

[zinc phoenix]

It will not reliably OHK pretty much anything else tho

[hexed viper]

only when max level. i'm still saving up other curios for when i need them

[zinc phoenix]

Solid comment

[deft wave]

soulblaze feels so bad

[zinc phoenix]

Some people swear by it, most others just swear at it

[modern grove]

But its so good

[spice maple]

I also recommend hopping into VC with some people. Otherwise your teammates will try to murder the elites asap.

[pine iris]

I have a 80 warp resistance purg staff. you can left click a thousand times

[cyan echo]

It's good to be bad

[hexed viper]

i have one that is 6, and when stacked with others that is a lot of extra xp. it adds up

[deft wave]

the damage is negligible

[vagrant cedar]

do the math, if it takes you 100 games to reach lvl30, you will need 96 games then. you'd have higher chance to win games and get the full Xp if you had something else as curio, like +15% toughness or +20% health

[modern grove]

It's about the CC

[vagrant cedar]

etc etc

[zinc phoenix]

Meanwhile you can bleed a bulwark to death in seconds by heavy attacking his friggen shield 😂

[deft wave]

it cc chaff?

[modern grove]

It decreases CC resistance

[deft wave]

hmmm

[hexed viper]

do the math? with 18% of an xp boost that's 82 games instead of 100. LIke I said, they add up. especially when at 20+ minutes per game

[last sleet]

Really ate shit on the finesse here.

[modern grove]

Honestly, lv30 is so fast, it doesn't even matter.

[vagrant cedar]

yeah but you reduce your chance of winning those 82 games instead of having a useful ingame perk..

[deft wave]

then what ? we still need a cc trigger right ? what should that be?

[shrewd plinth]

asked previously but didn't get an answer. can anyone confirm pick n' mix never shows progress til you get it? if its busted and not tracking for me I'd really like to know so I can stop trying for it.

[fast slate]

does stamina on curio help with the blocking with deflector?

[deft wave]

surge staff stuns everything already

[hexed viper]

i don't have any problems with what i'm running right now and don't go down that often.

[modern grove]

Sword? Bullets?

[vagrant cedar]

fair enough then

[violet pollen]

Did some testing on damnation,void seems good but I think I'll stick with flame

[hexed viper]

unlimited ranged horde clear vs severely ranged horde clear?

[modern grove]

I use void, flame, or lasgun.

[deft wave]

well i ll just stay with surge staff,

[pine iris]

I was emporer's gifted a high 400s, nicely spec'ed trauma staff and frowned

[pearl thicket]

cool fire hands vs lame ball

[hexed viper]

headshots for days vs fire

[twilit mantle]

Voidstrike is the best one, gamers

[fast slate]

does stamina help with blocking?

[twilit mantle]

Sorry

[pearl thicket]

fwoom (you are dead)

[pine iris]

When I was level 20 I thought the void strike staff was best too

[modern grove]

Want headshots? Use the lasgun.

[twilit mantle]

No I used surge religiously

Some fucker on here told me to try it

[pine iris]

(void is the most fun staff)

[twilit mantle]

IT IS

[hexed viper]

want headshots? use the Voidstrike staff with Transfer Peril and watch your peril disappear as heads pop

[cedar grove]

Voidstrike is best at horde clear, Surge is best at CCing specific specials/elites

[fast slate]

transfer peril?

[modern grove]

or use the lasgun and don't accumulate peril from using your gun.

[hexed viper]

quell 3.5% peril per weak spot hit

[jovial quail]

Finally managed to get the absurd penance chest piece!

[pine hearth]

psyker needs a force lasgun

[twilit mantle]

I mean you can just half charge it and point it at your feet

[dreamy mural]

what are the best blessing and perk for curio ? health, toughness etc .

[sick kindle]

Would trauma staff feel less piss to use if they just kinda dumped it's peril gain by like 60 or 70%? Because making it cost as much as other staves that provide waaaaay more utility seems questionable.

[hexed viper]

what staff? that one doesn't exist

[violet pollen]

Lets me 360° without needing to charge up, and I like to quickly turn and stagger those opponents my teammates can't be bothered to kill

[fast slate]

uhh where do i get this lol

[cedar grove]

Trauma would be better, if the charge knocked down mobs since it's like a big gravity down field

[hexed viper]

pray to RNJesus

[sick kindle]

Yeah but I want explodey boom boom staff to be viable. In a game about choices, I want that one to be viable.

[fast slate]

damn

[cedar grove]

true endgame for Darktide is praying for good item bases at the store

and then praying for good mods when upgrading

[hexed viper]

voidstrike kills a fuck ton before they even get close to you

[pine iris]

trauma staff has a big problem. if the enemies are above you or around a corner you cant tell where you're putting the circle

[static epoch]

note to all psykers, please stop using your surge staff on the horde

[pine iris]

and if they're far away you have to look at the sky to get the circle over to them

[last sleet]

Very annoying that the be all end all of upgrading your character is: "Check the store every hour".

[hexed viper]

emperor gifts

[sick kindle]

No, if there's specials and elite mixins in there. I'm gunna zap and you can't stop me.

[hexed viper]

why do people forget about emperor gifts?

[pine iris]

emporer's gift weapons are better spec'ed than store weapons on average

[static epoch]

no, I mean. The horde, the trash.

[modern grove]

being in the Emperium is about praying.

[static epoch]

It does not help. 😄

[cedar grove]

Cause it's complete RNG that you can't rely on at all

[sick kindle]

Oh just trash? Then yeah sure.

[last sleet]

Not nearly enough to be a reliable main source of items. The "be all end all" is the shop. It's the biggest and most likely source.

[violet pollen]

Listen,my team is stupid and I get surrounded 360 I need the constant flame stream for breathing room but I doubt this will go anywhere unless i just agree to void

[hexed viper]

you mean... like the store?

[gray kelp]

I did 4 of the green eagle missions and did not recieve a single gift, its very inconsistent

[pine hearth]

my contract shop has been only guns since launch

[pine iris]

Fat Shark should have a web page you could log into with your steam account and check the store with

[cedar grove]

The store at least always has items every hour and has multiple ones. Emperor's Gifts are a single item that may not even be awarded

[dreamy mural]

what curio blessing you guys prioritise ? health ?

[violet pollen]

Hp

[hexed viper]

that's weird as fuck. i've gotten a gift on every single one i've ran so far

[modern grove]

Been doing them all day so far, nothing.

[fast slate]

what is this green eagle yall speak of?

[violet pollen]

Wait the green thing in the side of mission means item?

[hexed viper]

yes. green eagle

[violet pollen]

Thx game

[pine iris]

I dont know if this is correct but I run a lot of +1 wounds

[modern grove]

Also, holy crap, repair mission T3+ when?

[tender cipher]

I just grouped with a psyker who refused to use his purga staff on hordes and was using his combat axe instead

[devout belfry]

It's in your head lol

[tender cipher]

Which meant elites and other shit filtered through and weren't CC'd burned.

[hexed viper]

eyyyy welcome back!

[dreamy mural]

what does +1 or +2 wound do ?

[violet pollen]

Pog, blueberries at it's finest

[hexed viper]

you can go down more times

[cedar grove]

Anyone want to help me get Malleus Monstronum or Pick N' Mix?

[zinc phoenix]

Join usssssss join ussssss

Also embrace the power of chainsword

[tender cipher]

Purgatus is fine, you just need to learn how to use it aka be hyper aggressive

[dreamy mural]

hmm wouldn't be good if more health ?

[tender cipher]

Otherwise it's useless.

[violet pollen]

I like the warp blade

[modern grove]

Force sword is just too versatile to go chainsword.

[zinc phoenix]

Chainsword psyker is literally a better zealot

[hexed viper]

hp and wounds are what you wanna aim for

[pine hearth]

I can 2 shot crushers atm with force sword special

got a great roll and perks

[tender cipher]

Very few things beat a bleed zealot with a bleed knife.

[violet pollen]

Warp blade lets me destroys dogs and ragers

[static epoch]

zealot bleed knife on the team is sick

[midnight forum]

Waitwait, that little eagle next to mission means higher chance for Emperor's gift?

[devout belfry]

Mkv axe or Force Sword - those are you only melee choices lol

[devout belfry]

No lol

[modern grove]

Wait...isn't Nurglite blood BAD to let out?

[hexed viper]

you can only get emperor's gifts on those missions

[midnight forum]

Oh...

[violet pollen]

That's dumb

[hexed viper]

apparently it's a chance though

[violet pollen]

It should be 100%

[cedar grove]

The damage modifier for force sword alt fire be wilding

[gloomy obsidian]

Good?

[static epoch]

no

[hexed viper]

the perks are ass

[modern grove]

I think you want the Kantrael IV

[devout belfry]

You're a psyker.

Do you even know how to use a gun?

[violet pollen]

Yes,it goes bang

[hexed viper]

and yeah, go for staves, not guns

[tender cipher]

You’re looking for crit burn.

[devout belfry]

I'd hold onto it to put on something else lol

[pine iris]

you can fall down more without dying

[zinc phoenix]

Ok yes bleed zealot is a powerhouse in and of itself

[violet pollen]

I think I have crit burn on my staff

[static epoch]

You know, there's such an overflow of psykers. Using a gun ain't that bad 😄

[tender cipher]

Gotta have a flash light source though just in case

[cedar grove]

force sword alt fire shouldn't be blocked by a bulwark shield

you are pumping raw warp energy into someone

[hexed viper]

how'd the games go? you missed some interesting conversations

[cedar grove]

a block of metal wont stop that

[devout belfry]

We have wytch sight. Or we should -_-

[devout belfry]

Finished my weekly. What I miss lol?

[zinc phoenix]

I’m continually butthurt that my zealot doesn’t ever roll knifes let alone one with bleed on it

[lethal plover]

gun psykers deserve to be purged

[violet pollen]

Warp staff = sends out warp tentacle

[hexed viper]

that's what the walking torches are for. (Purge staff users)

[tender cipher]

And every other psyker is mad they don’t get force swords with deflection on it

[static epoch]

I highly recommend getting a mk4 chainsword and a void staff and see how obscene you clear trash and fill in what the vet isn't doing.

[hexed viper]

i got one

[devout belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/cease-your-heresy-warhammer-heresy-astartes-gif-18053812

[tender cipher]

Tbh fat shark can go Kark themselves for such poor loot design

[lethal plover]

deflector is such a rare perk

[static epoch]

Whoever said Psyker has 2 weapon options is crazy 😄

[zinc phoenix]

Also am I the only one who thinks it’s kinda dumb that by far the best zealot weapon in this universe of chain swords and power weapons is… a tiny knife with some jaggy bits to make people bleed more?

[tender cipher]

I’ve had six so far and my friend has had 0

[pine iris]

I played with 3 veterans. i didnt get a BB off the entire match

[devout belfry]

Lol, for the melee - I think it's true.

[cedar grove]

But why use a chainsword over a force sword.

[violet pollen]

Never! It should suspend specials in the air with large tick dmg

[zinc phoenix]

I got one on a terrible sword but I deleted it by mistake 😂

[lethal plover]

best is always subjective. people are arguing to use the axe

[cedar grove]

they both live on their alt fires

[static epoch]

Because force sword alt attack isn't needed if you have a vet

[untold kestrel]

211131

[lethal plover]

whatever you do, use the block with peril feat.
I clutch revived a guy between 3 ragers just a few minutes ago.

[tender cipher]

Plenty of times where you have to because the game spawns mobs behind you and the vet is forced into melee

[hexed viper]

nice! i was 3 missions away fro completing my weekly stuff when the crashing issue started. and we talked about all sorts of psyker stuff. which staff is best, why trauma staff doesn't exist, why BB needs to be buffed....

[violet pollen]

Ya know like,slam staff and warp tentacles pierce your opponent like Vlad the impaler, suspending them in place doing big dmg and leaving them open to attack

[magic hull]

my first deflector force sword and i got to to transcend

[devout belfry]

You're doing fine sibling.

[magic hull]

i use it with purg

[hexed viper]

you want deflector on your sword

[zinc phoenix]

Trauma staff is called trauma staff because it’s so bad it literally causes the user substantial trauma

[cedar grove]

Honestly, BB feels like it could be "fine" if at least scaled with your weapons some

instead of being a static damage value

[devout belfry]

How exactly is it impaling them?

[cedar grove]

I just don't even look at my stacks

[pine iris]

scaled with weapon strength is a good idea

[hexed viper]

am i sensing heretical thoughts?

[cedar grove]

if Psychic Communion isn't upkeeping it then fuck it

[violet pollen]

Idk, through the stomach?

[lethal plover]

yeah I'm always going full, especially when horde comes, and that's where we need it

[violet pollen]

Be cool if id work on bulwarks

[hexed viper]

do you not use the 10% bb chance on hit?

that;s another way to get another stack every 15 seconds

[violet pollen]

10% BB is dope

[cedar grove]

I do, but again it's just RNG

Like I said, I don't even look at my stacks

if they fall, they fall

[violet pollen]

Flame staff fixes that problem

[teal cargo]

oh yea flame gives a ton of stacks

[lethal plover]

kinetic flayer no longer procs on soulblaze tick

[teal cargo]

what?

[devout belfry]

I struggle to see any reason to change builds ever.

There are like two trait choices lol

[violet pollen]

Since when,I tested it earlier

[cedar grove]

Soulblaze is also, just bad

[violet pollen]

Oh wait

[cedar grove]

it does nothing

[violet pollen]

It needs to stack up

[cedar grove]

Like the 4 stacks from the level 30 trait barely burn a chaff mob to death

[violet pollen]

I've seen a tick do 300

[hexed viper]

much like the trauma staff, it's called soulblaze because it hurts the user's soul

[pine iris]

I just typed 'predatory fomo' in general chat and ran out

[cedar grove]

The level 30 trait needs to at least one shot a horde otherwise, why even pick it?

[violet pollen]

Warp stacks

[lethal plover]

how about 6 stacks

[cedar grove]

and do it without requiring like a full 5-10 seconds of DoT ticking

[static epoch]

then it would be useful if you let it get to high stack, on a target that needs it, provided it hasn't been damaged already and it ticks enough

[violet pollen]

It's let's blaze soul kills give warp stacks

[hexed viper]

that's some heresy shit right there, but that's fucking funny heresy shit

[devout belfry]

Yeah but soulblaze basically can't kill

[lethal plover]

and besides when you're running flame staff, it's easy to spray them once more

[ornate hamlet]

420 soulblaze it

[static epoch]

like wot. I'm certain I haven't exhausted every possibility with it. But never in a game has anyone I've been paired with made it actually seem significant.

I think a single time I've seen it kill an elite that ran away.

[lethal plover]

you mean flame staff doesn't kill? What was my 2700 kill last round

[zinc phoenix]

BB should be changed to BBQ, and instead of doing damage it’d make the ogryn think all enemies are actually giant platters of BBQ spare ribs, causing it to go apeshit on them

[sterile lake]

I started psyker now, what would you recommended. Any tips or build?

[devout belfry]

Does the flame staff count as soul blaze?

[lethal plover]

yes

that's the trick

[violet pollen]

Ye

[formal gorge]

I fucking hate the "hold max warp charges for 5 minute" penance

[violet pollen]

Stack it

[formal gorge]

most aggravating thing on the planet

[untold kestrel]

the initial damage from fire staff is not soulblaze, just the ticks afterwards

[zinc phoenix]

Well it IS a penance for your sins

[static epoch]

Go BB spam build. 😄 let your team know

[zinc phoenix]

You must have sinned pretty fuckin hard

[hexed viper]

how are you even playing this game?

[violet pollen]

Flame staff + ascendant blaze+ BB 10% chance

[devout belfry]

So if I kill with the base damage of the flame staff - does it not count towards the free stack? Only the dot? That's ass.

[magic hull]

its not suppose to be fast ttk, its for staggering large horde. Left click purgatory to actually kill. From my experience i need to click 5 times each unit to do high damage.

[formal gorge]

im literally at 4mins 50 seconds for it

[cedar grove]

Person holding right click on a Voidstrike staff: "I'm about to end this man's whole career"

[lethal plover]

Fixed an issue where Kinetic Flayer could be activated when an enemy is damaged by a tick of the Soulfire debuff.

[hexed viper]

but you're blind

[bitter abyss]

emporer really do be providing rolls for decent rando weapons on my Psyker..... lol

[violet pollen]

Jokes on you "taps F and right click"

Behold my tick dmg and stagger

[hexed viper]

gets headshots with Transfer Peril and doesn't need to F until much later

[untold kestrel]

so whoever was saying chain sword instead of force sword earlier. im in meat grinder right now testing it out. im not really finding chain sword to be faster dps in most scenarios

what am I missing?

[lethal plover]

I used surge and voidstrike before switching to flame.
The reason I switched to flame is because voidstrike works best in a lane. When the horde is close and surrounding you voidstrike takes a while to stagger them, while flame can just spray with the mouse

[violet pollen]

Unfortunately snipers destroy me

[zinc phoenix]

It’s not higher dps on the big stuff, it has a great wide wide combo that makes it better at horde clear

While still being pretty good at dealing with the tin cans

[lethal plover]

spam the dodge with force sword

[violet pollen]

In my defense,I'm really blind irl so less aiming= good

[static epoch]

My point was you are now 100% of the teams trash clear. 😄

You can solo heresy hordes faster than any class

[hexed viper]

voidstrike has no range. aim head level and you are destroying hordes.

[static epoch]

Prob damnation too

[violet pollen]

Ye,I do that then bb them

[magic hull]

Flame staff is good for heresy or horde missions and clutch.

[lethal plover]

not if they are surrounding you

[untold kestrel]

yeah i mean even with trash. i'm getting higher cleave dps with light click on force then heavy cleave on chainsaw

[hoary hamlet]

So, I noticed when using Surge staff you overload even when shooting from below 100% peril (above 90%), is it intended? is it a bug?

[lethal plover]

there is one part which is kinda made for voidstrike, that long corridor in the new desert map

[hexed viper]

if they're surrounding you, you didn't do your job/your teamdidn't do their job

[pine hearth]

eh psyker is relegated to support at heresy/dam, since every other class can do better then us except the surge staff stun

[runic gate]

Wall hump and utilize AOE splash in different direction, works pretty great. Use choke points with team

[violet pollen]

Unfortunately it happens alot

[bitter abyss]

i think void is good when your team already has good flamers/melee horde control, then you can cleanup range and hallway packs for them

[magic hull]

if only flame staff can stagger armoured elites, mutants and dogs it will be even more useful

[lethal plover]

If I have a penny for every time someone goes
"enemies shouldn't be surrounding you"
It must be nice for armchair theory

[magic hull]

prob more useful than surge if thats the case

[lethal plover]

actually that's 4 times

[violet pollen]

It can?

[zinc phoenix]

In fairness if horde is all over me I’m gonna shove them and then do a void strike

[violet pollen]

Oh wait

Mutants

Nvm

[pine hearth]

na,surge can chain a long way away

good if there are a bunch of ranged mobs

[bitter abyss]

surge can handle many "oh sh*t" moments with it's stagger against bursters/dogs/mutants though

[zinc phoenix]

Gotta CC those brutal pox walkers at long range 😂

[pine hearth]

in damnation a ranged regular can kill you in 4 hits

toughness gone in one

[zinc phoenix]

I see you’ve never backed into a dead end instead of a doorway 😂

[violet pollen]

Just pre charge BB

[lethal plover]

my mind has now changed.
Have you seen anyone do a rez while surrounded by 4 ragers? That's the psyker

[bitter abyss]

BB poxwalkers for the meme.

[hexed viper]

force sword push attack is OP when backed into a corner

calm down Puss in Boots

[zinc phoenix]

Earlier today I backed into that giant hole in the middle of the forge place and just hung there for like 5 minutes while my team forked around 😂

[bitter abyss]

Psyker in Boots

[lethal plover]

avoid that center hole. newbie trap

you have no business there anyway

[zinc phoenix]

I was holding all three lanes against a horde so I felt I did

But it got a lil hectic and whoops hole

[lethal plover]

nah, you hold at the final gate. then it's only 180 degree

[pine hearth]

walked around a corner tons of times on my ogryn and get insta killed by ranged regular mobs in damnation

[hexed viper]

unless they're fighting while going to the different location needed for the obj....

[zinc phoenix]

We weren’t there yet tho

[hoary hamlet]

I noticed when using Surge staff you overload even when shooting from below 100% peril (above 90%), is it intended? is it a bug?

[zinc phoenix]

And also psyker too fat to outrun horde

[pine hearth]

I stop at 80% on surge

and quell

[zinc phoenix]

“Huff huff wish I had stamina”

[bitter abyss]

it's cause of the 30'lbs of water for all those tubes. Gotta liquid cool the brain. 🙂

[hexed viper]

and that's where Voidstrike staff is OP

[lethal plover]

hold force sword with peril block. I am literally invincible when dodging horde

[magic hull]

i have the stamina curio for that but u suffer toughness and health

[zinc phoenix]

“Should have gone to the gym instead of reading all those perverse books”

[lethal plover]

also flame. but that's the easiest part of the map too

[zinc phoenix]

If y’all are arguing that with perfect play I wouldn’t have fallen in the hole you’d be right. My argument is that imperfect play is a reality of the human experience and y’all should just accept it and stop arguing otherwise

[hexed viper]

i cleared so many adds the flamer zealot barely had anything to kill

[magic hull]

flame is so sittuation specific but once u got into that particular sittuation it outshine other staffs.

[lethal plover]

I always yell in chat: avoid the center hole

[pine hearth]

surge is just too good, it does what no other weapon in game does

[lethal plover]

you can go around it

[magic hull]

other than that like its hard to use when everyone is scattered

[zinc phoenix]

But in every other situation the rest of the team is wondering why you’re there instead of a bot who’d at least shoot the occasional thing

[lethal plover]

because when I first started I got wiped by the hole, which is why I always yell about it

[young summit]

spend a while leveing my alt, surge is freakign amazing ,when the pysker uses it.

The psyker doesnt really get a feel of exactly how good it is.

[jovial frigate]

i already know its gonna go poop from here

[hexed viper]

because it's boring

[young summit]

it is

i mainthe voidstaff, with some silly blessing.

[pine hearth]

same as when im on my ogryn, I run a rumbler and dont feel like im doing much but when I stop using it the group asks me to use it again

[young summit]

but im not 30 in either class either

[pine hearth]

the aoe CC is jsut too good

[lethal plover]

surge is freakign amazing ,when the pysker uses it.
The psyker doesnt really get a feel of exactly how good it is.
What do these sentences mean when combined

[young summit]

You just dont get a feel for how effective the stun is as a psyker, as your not up close in the meelefray that benefits from it.

[zinc phoenix]

He feels he’s carrying hard by CCing six pox walkers per encounter

[teal cargo]

I use surge

[hexed viper]

surge staff > Purge Staff

[lethal plover]

miss me with that when a horde is swarming

[jovial frigate]

in a game where you're supposed to kill thousands of monsters per mission, watching monsters not die when you zap doesnt feel good but is good

[zinc phoenix]

Having been a zealot with a surge psyker I mostly wonder why they think I need help dealing with random pox walkers

[hexed viper]

they will when the horde is cc'd and the team is wiping them out

[young summit]

Purge with quell and faster charge is silly for leveling though. got super lucky with this one.

[zinc phoenix]

You can’t CC more than six targets with surge

[pine hearth]

you spam it

dont full charge it ever

[hexed viper]

that's whyy you don't full charge it

[young summit]

yeah surge spam locks down everything you need to be locked dwon

[zinc phoenix]

Ok, but in that case I whip out my flamer and ask what horde

[young summit]

you dont need 100 mobs to be stunned, you need the ones closes to you that will be a issue, and it locks down most specials

[hexed viper]

calm down zealot

[tranquil badge]

Siblings voidstrike supremacy

[lethal plover]

seriously, people need to learn the spraying flame and ascendant blaze routine with psyker.

[zinc phoenix]

I tried it and decided to worship at the altar of void

[tranquil badge]

Facts

[lethal plover]

that was me when I first got purgatus as well

[pine hearth]

it locks down all specials

[hexed viper]

what a creative way to say that. holy shit 🤣

[lethal plover]

I thought the flame staff was the waekest

[pine hearth]

stops a mutant in in its tracks

throws a pox bomber down

[gray kelp]

5th green eagle mission in a row with no emperor's gift nice

[polar swift]

weakest damage, largest AoE

[hexed viper]

fucking rip

[magic hull]

I kinda enjoy flame staff, its fun to use and my staff is decent so im not complaining xd

[modern grove]

I'm on like, 10.

[lethal plover]

once you start feeling voidstrike is not fast enough to stagger a horde around you, you will appreciate the spraying nature of the flame staff

[hexed viper]

fucking ripperoni

[zinc phoenix]

As a man who literally only clicks quick play and does nothing else in the mission screen (despite having three high level characters 😂) what is a green eagle mission?

[hexed viper]

emperor gift mission

[modern grove]

Holy shit, T3 repair mission YES.

[tranquil badge]

If you set up in a hallway or long view of horse the voidstrike won’t let the horse reach you

[magic hull]

yeah i use flame more now. Everytime i come back to void it doesnt feel as fun anymore when cleaning hordes

[zinc phoenix]

Well that would explain why I get so few of them

[lethal plover]

hallway and lanes are the best for voidstrike. because it shoots in a line

obviously

[tranquil badge]

Yea gotta play to your staff strength

[hexed viper]

even in wide areas, the horde is always coming from a few directions. throwing the void balls at head height clears out a fuck ton of adds

[zinc phoenix]

I want voidstrike to become a wire guided missile so that I can headshot every pox walker in the zone

[tranquil badge]

Yea if you can tell the points where the hordes will flow through even in open areas it’s still great

[hexed viper]

https://tenor.com/view/yondu-take-out-whistle-marvel-comics-guarduans-of-the-galaxy-gif-17296452

just with headshots... obviously

that's just calling to be fucked by the warp though

[lethal plover]

is that even canon?

[hexed viper]

i mean... general crafting isn't canon either

it's heresy

[untold kestrel]

expend all warp charges and teleport to selected area, upon arrival remain invulnerable for .5*charges seconds

[lethal plover]

mechanicus can do it

[untold kestrel]

better ultimate

[hexed viper]

its their job to do it

tech priests and mechanicus are like the only few who can craft shit without it being heresy

[lethal plover]

I have not seen short-distance teleport for personal usage of psykers

any story where this happened?

usually going into the warp is a perilous thing

[candid temple]

that's just background image, tho

[zinc phoenix]

Honestly yes but that’d kinda be intruding even harder on zealot space

[candid temple]

like I tried doing 'eagle' missions, didn't get any emperor's gifts

[left mirage]

tfw randos using trauma staff explode 3 times and wipe my group

[zinc phoenix]

Oh so either you teleport or you grow a bunch of tentacles and become a hentai star

[lethal plover]

vote to kick

[hexed viper]

apparently its a chance to drop

[left mirage]

is that a thing?

[tranquil badge]

Hate of infinity is the spell i think

[left mirage]

never seen a vkick pop up

[tranquil badge]

Gate of infinity

[lethal plover]

yes. click social

[candid temple]

yes kicking is a thing

[left mirage]

damn

[hexed viper]

so.. psykers can in fact teleport, but you're literally walking into the void to move a certain distance. that's like heating up your food with a nuke. you're asking for trouble

[candid temple]

sounds like scam to me

Or the emperor just hates psykers

[hexed viper]

i'm at 100% drop rate so far with 5+ missions ran

[candid temple]

wtf

no seriously, wtf

what level?

[hexed viper]

RNJesus loves me

[magic hull]

I would want psykers to have healing/ shield ability for the team nearby.

[hexed viper]

24. havent been able to play for the last 1.5 weeks though

[candid temple]

🤔

I will cry if it's a hidden 'catchup' mechanic.

like levelling up, up to like, 10-15? I got a few gifts.

[heady sonnet]

Oh boi

[lethal plover]

flame build only matters once you get 6 warp charges and ascendant blaze

[candid temple]

Hmm.

[young summit]

GABEofNEWCASTLE: i'm at 100% drop rate so far with 5+ missions ran

Isn't emperors gift always from all missions with that small green box with the logo in it?

[edgy heart]

What exactly are warp attacks, I assume the brain burst, but I imagine there's more since it has a different name than the ability

[hexed viper]

apparently it's a drop chance

[magic hull]

yes

[lethal plover]

flexing

[hexed viper]

staff kills, force sword ability

[edgy heart]

Force sword ability is the alternate attack right?

[hexed viper]

yeah that thing

i believe counts...

you're pumping the enemy full of warp

[candid temple]

hnnnngh, that is 🍆

[pine hearth]

alt attack on force sword should give you a warp charge on kill

[magic hull]

still the best melee tho, nothing in my arsenal could beat this 😩

[fading jewel]

would this be a better choice for an assasin axe player that keeps getting stepped on by multiple enemies

[hexed viper]

using BB even if it doesn't kill anything should give warp charge

[pine hearth]

if you get to 50% charge and the target dies you still get a charge

[hexed viper]

still doesn't change what i said

[pine hearth]

yes

[cedar grove]

Force Sword alt Heavy is nutty

[pine hearth]

esp if you have a +20% to carapace

I 2 shot crushers in damnation with heavy attacks

[lethal plover]

heavy attack on flak part of mauler is an instakill

if you have good rolls

[magic hull]

For big heavy armoured guy with hammer. Force push hom, charge up sword and heavy attack.

he falls

pretty interesting

[lethal plover]

learn peril block. with force sword you can live forever by religiously holding block and push

[hexed viper]

peril block is distgustingly op

[lethal plover]

I hope they don't nerf peril block

[cedar grove]

There's even an achievement for killing 10 maulers without using headshots

cause they take more damage to the chest than to the head

[pine hearth]

only the maulers helm is carapace

all the other is flak

[fading jewel]

ive tried 3 different force swords , none of them felt good

[pine hearth]

same with those shirtless dudes with helmets

[lethal plover]

one rule in this game is to not let first impressions cloud you. later on when you go to max level and t4/t5 you rethink your impressions

[pine hearth]

force swords are single target mostly, only good cleave is light attack into heavy

[cedar grove]

I am once again asking Fatshark to show your completed mission types for each class on each difficulty

so you know what you are missing for those penances

[hexed viper]

i gotta head to bed. y'all take care

great chat

[lethal plover]

force sword has unlimited dodge, and push and block with it and you should never die. once you get deflector it saves you from bullets also

[cedar grove]

Psyker you use your staves for horde clear and melee for elites

Force Sword alt fire is the specialist murderer

[lethal plover]

yep, paired with a horde-clearing staff, the melee is mainly for elites and survival

[cedar grove]

https://tenor.com/view/ho-anime-approach-gif-14775857

When you see that Rager rushing you and your sword is out

[lethal plover]

now I'm just camping the store to get a good roll for force sword

riveting gameplay

[clear delta]

Can you interrupt Mutants with the sword push?

[untold kestrel]

no

[cedar grove]

No, just charge your sword, dodge then hit them when they miss

and they die

[pine hearth]

only surge staff can interupt mutants

[cedar grove]

Heresy meat grinder test with a force sword on a mutant

[teal cargo]

the real end game?

[lethal plover]

the real end game

[lethal plover]

kinetic flayer?

[cedar grove]

It happened constantly on repeated tests

so I don't think so

[lethal plover]

screenshot your sword?

how did you get that

[clear delta]

Hey uh gang? Anyone seen this surge blessing before? I've never heard of it

[tender cipher]

Yeah that's always the best plan.

[zinc phoenix]

Holy cow that’s 2x the highest I’ve ever seen, what are your traits?

[candid hawk]

the emporer is teasing me giving me this after my game on a psyker lol

[zinc phoenix]

Do it… you know you want to. BE the pistol psyker!

[candid hawk]

I might try it lol

[lethal plover]

[candid hawk]

I have an idea for it xD

[lethal plover]

you will get kicked

[zinc phoenix]

I bet he doesn’t

Nobody knows where the kick button is yet

😂

[lethal plover]

damn

[tender cipher]

Pistol psyker was fun from level 5-11

Also sad that we can't use shotguns.

[cedar grove]

They need to show the damage values for the alt fire on the sword on the chart

[clear delta]

fr anyone seen this before? I cant see it on the blessing website. I can afford it after I run 1 more mission for my weekly

[candid hawk]

Pistol psyker build? Im about to get the skin for it from the cash shop rofl

[flint sky]

Shotguns suck

[lavish cipher]

What is the most usefull kind of staff? Flamer, zone or electric?

[lethal plover]

you are right. need to update the site

[flint sky]

Surge or Void

[lethal plover]

surge, voidstrike, purgatus all have their uses

[flint sky]

Its a toss up for most people

[silk gazelle]

whats peoples thoughts on soulbalze, I seem to find it super weak

[flint sky]

Personally I think surge is the best and fill a role more useful to the team tho

[ivory zealot]

is it just me or is force sword a less useful evicerator?

[flint sky]

Its shit

Like 95% of the psyker class

[lethal plover]

we are gonna repeat this conversation again

[flint sky]

Yes

Always

[dusk wolf]

just have it once and for all then pin it

[modern grove]

We need some pins

[silk gazelle]

did it use to be good, i never got to use the flamer staff till now as it use to crash my game

[lethal plover]

@silk gazelle read from #psyker-class message

[flint sky]

No one reads pins

[lethal plover]

my message, not pins

[flint sky]

Flat incorrect.

[lethal plover]

suits you

[flint sky]

Vet does anything psyker can do better without having to juggle void stacks

[pine hearth]

all the staffs (except trauma) are good up to a point

then in damnation ppl will want you to use the surge

[lethal plover]

didn't even read did you

[steel vortex]

I wonder how long until the devs realize they forgot to ban the name "Sussus-Amogus"

[flint sky]

What were tbh thinking with the poor trauma staff

[zinc phoenix]

I’d test it before buying a gold plated skin 🤣

[lethal plover]

peril block made psyker now the best reviver

[steel vortex]

because they banned "Among-Us" and "Sussy-Baka"

[lethal plover]

and now combat axe is a contender for best melee along with force sword

[candid hawk]

It was just a joke, i dont get why the psyker skin comes with a staff and a pistol skin when you cant even equip both at the same time

[flint sky]

"now it feels as good as playing vet"

[steel vortex]

Also as psyker I usually just focus down critical targets when the vet is busy

[lethal plover]

yep

[flint sky]

Flat fucking wrong

Planning for downs is mind blowing

[lethal plover]

it's your opinion. we just keep playing

[lavish cipher]

Chainsword works so well that managing your peril with the power sword seems too much management