psyker-class

[glacial abyss]

ok dont say that shit

[woven wigeon]

I don't think they meant for me with a knife to be better at blocking than an Ogryn with a shield

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/bolo-yeung-chill-wait-stop-gif-7442708

[eager wolf]

Especially after you get a staff that reduces your peril gen on hit

[woven wigeon]

When you compare it to Sienna's similar feat in Vermintide

[elfin jacinth]

Bro.. okay im going to say this. Force Swords NEED to have DEFLECTOR STANDARD TRAIT intrinsic to the weapon itself.

[jade geode]

IMO Psyker's ranged game is balanced by the fact we don't have to worry about ammo. We can use our ranged option more liberally and frequently than other classes, at the cost of not being able to spam it as much in a small time period, and having our overall ranged effectiveness slightly under the performance of a dedicated class like sharpshooter.

[jolly wasp]

if thats overtuned what the hell is the power sword

[worn canopy]

shhh sibling

[pine iris]

the 10% chance to BB skill stinks lol, it never goes off and the cool down is so long

[noble trellis]

if deflector combo gets nerfed in launch patch I might die laughing

[glacial abyss]

bro this isnt vermintide!!!

stop!!!!!!!!

[worn canopy]

ive never had this problem

[woven wigeon]

Oh the deflector thing is whatever

[glacial abyss]

ong.

[elfin jacinth]

goes off, but yes the cooldown is too long

[spice oar]

Soon

[bronze sierra]

It keeps me at full most missions bob

[spice oar]

Soooooon

[woven wigeon]

I just think they straight up didn't intend how you're never really at risk of having your guard broken

[eager wolf]

It’s for charge gen

[bronze sierra]

Idk ehat your doin

[worn canopy]

fire goes fwoosh, heads go pop

[woven wigeon]

You'd have to be completely swarmed for your peril to overheat from the block

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/sussy-cat-speed-up-fortnite-funny-gif-23483348

[elfin jacinth]

I know, and its still too long

[pine iris]

I'll try it again some time

[jolly wasp]

I'd agree if Ammo was ever an actual issue but I hit 25 on my vet and I had no issues maintaining ammo unless my teammates were grabbing it for no reason or the Zealot thought it was a good idea to unload all his ammo into every horde that appears... so basically if I'm solo Q I guess

[jade geode]

LOL

[bronze sierra]

Go heretic bowling with a void and your golden

[jade geode]

Well, ammo availability may get tuned over time

[elfin jacinth]

Also, 4%? Idk fam, try 7%, maintaining stacks is just a boring part of the game Also for the LOVE OF GOD make the stacks shed one by one, not all at once

[eager wolf]

But yeah peril block is really useful on 4+

[worn canopy]

stops gaining peril on block at critical tho

[jade geode]

But I agree. With just a little discipline, ammo isn't much of an issue. As long as you're not spraying, or eating ammo to kill every ambient mook.

[spice oar]

Hired

[bronze sierra]

This man gets it @elfin jacinth

[worn canopy]

but peril on block really is the best on higher tiers

[eager wolf]

It’s badly written, 4% chance per teammate in coherence

[woven wigeon]

Ye, but it takes extreme amounts of damage to get there haha

[eager wolf]

But yeah should decay one at a time

[worn canopy]

still dont see it happen ever

[woven wigeon]

Oh I see it proc all the time

It works great with voidstrike

SInce you're demolishing hordes with it

[eager wolf]

Idk i stay at full warp charges never using bb

[worn canopy]

ill give it a try

whenever.... whenever they let me in

[woven wigeon]

It ensures you're getting that almost 20% damage buff for like entire ambushes

Which is quite nice

[worn canopy]

let me in

[elfin jacinth]

It'

[jade geode]

The talent works, but managing stacks is very tedious. Agreed.

[elfin jacinth]

It'd be nice if Brain Burst Scaled with level to some degree as well.

[jade geode]

It's not impossible, but it is anti-fun.

[woven wigeon]

I'm more on the side of BB being fine than most beans. I think warp charges are more kinda weird with how they're designed

[eager wolf]

Yeah i hate brain burst for anything but snipers and distant gunners

[bronze sierra]

Cause its like ah yes, have this tedium

[jade geode]

Even pushing you to use BB at inopportune times just to hold stacks

[feral void]

Purgatus is op

[worn canopy]

but i have to give up the 15% CDR on elite kill

[woven wigeon]

Like, BB does fall off, but your staffs fill that hole as you level

[gritty stratus]

10% BB feat at level 25, opinons.

[eager wolf]

Good for ogryn too sometimes

[mellow crescent]

make BB a VolcanicBolt equivalent

do it fatshark

[worn canopy]

no

this aint verm

[glacial abyss]

stop with the vermintide

u guys so unoriginal

https://tenor.com/view/rat-moment-rat-gif-22816005

[feral void]

if it works, it works

[glacial abyss]

rat this rat that

[mellow crescent]

Darktide is unoriginal

[elfin jacinth]

Do any other classes have to maintain stacks the way Psykers do?

[noble trellis]

in all seriousness I think that psyker's ranged output and crowd-clearing are quite good, it's everything else he could use some help with

[gritty stratus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/294604960614842368/1022159094758510634/chaos_warrior_not_made_by_Janfon1.gif

[dusty mirage]

or anything that likes to run around corners

[bronze sierra]

Nope easy

[worn canopy]

zealot being almost dead with bleed through damage?

[jade geode]

You're talking about a game that borrows 80% of it's gameplay from another game, from the same devs. OFC people are going to reference it.

[glacial abyss]

i use surge for that

[woven wigeon]

This game kinda reminds me of Vermintide

There's angry english people

[glacial abyss]

brain burst falls off on higher difficulty ong!

[bronze sierra]

Cause its pretty much 40k vermintide kurble

[pine iris]

I like the middle rate of fire lasguns. I forget which they are but they're great for psychers before staffs

[bronze sierra]

Hence darkTIDE

[worn canopy]

no way

rip

[stray ruin]

My theory is the developer intends players to use soulblaze to soften up targets so they can BB them. I have some build ideas that should work well. Need to run some more tests, but enough stacks of brain bursts melt the beefier dudes or at least make it so you can BB them with one shot.

[glacial abyss]

rip

[elfin jacinth]

That bot is so annoying bro

[jade geode]

LMAO

[feral void]

inside voices bro

[pine iris]

Head aiming a hoard with the lasgun feels really nice

[jade geode]

tried to quote Kruber's shout in caps.

[worn canopy]

yeah keep the voices inside

[elfin jacinth]

That reminds me SOULBLAZE IS HOT GARBAGIO

[jade geode]

Okay.

[elfin jacinth]

Change my mind

[bronze sierra]

It is

[worn canopy]

which one

[bronze sierra]

Its good as a secondary damage source but not as a main one

[mellow crescent]

voices inside head bro

[glacial abyss]

whar

[sonic zodiac]

Has anyone completed the challenge to brain burst 5 different specials/elites in 10 seconds on heresy? Seems like its way too RNG based

[noble trellis]

soulblaze may be hot but this is a cold take

[steel musk]

Well so much for all that excitement

[elfin jacinth]

What kind of damage does it even do? Everytime I used it it just seemed like I was putting on a light show rather than dealing dmg

[worn canopy]

its not my psyker but how is the beloved these days

[stray ruin]

It can take out crushers/reapers with ease on damnation difficulty.

[steel musk]

Maintenance wont be over until 12PM

[elfin jacinth]

proof

[woven wigeon]

I just loaded games until I got 5 gunners in a row

[bronze sierra]

Its like 10 dot

And so

[woven wigeon]

You'll wanna have the lvl 30 talent that boosts charge times

[elfin jacinth]

Prooooof?

[dusty mirage]

Calling soulblaze "secondary damage' implies that it deals non trivial damage

[bronze sierra]

Its good cause its there, BUT dint rely kn it

[sonic zodiac]

Yeah seems impossible without that

[bronze sierra]

I went into the meat grinder and tested it in the preorder beta

[elfin jacinth]

Oops, already invalid

[feral void]

how does that soulblaze kills give stacks talent work for you guys?

does soulblaze itself have to kill?

[elfin jacinth]

Preorder psyker != Present Psyker

Oh wait

[pine iris]

BB buffs: 1/5th shorter time, slightly longer stagger on non-lethal

[elfin jacinth]

You mean closed or this last one?

[bronze sierra]

You do realize we inly bave this last preorder beta to work off of

[glacial abyss]

closed and pre order

[elfin jacinth]

There was a closed beta

[bronze sierra]

And the meat grinder wasnt available in the closed

[woven wigeon]

Why does it need a longer stagger? You can already stunlock with it

[elfin jacinth]

Which is what I thought you were referencing my bad if you werent

[bronze sierra]

I did also say preorder beta

[ebon jolt]

Yes. In my testing that's how it worked.

[elfin jacinth]

BRO CHILLAAAAAX, I said my bad

[worn canopy]

testing on launch rn

[feral void]

ah rip

[worn canopy]

game says 0 everything

psyker sucks now

doesnt even load

[pine iris]

@woven wigeon to make it more useful in non-lethal situations. minor buff

[elfin jacinth]

Yes, yes it does suck

[devout axle]

Worst class. Literally unplayable.

[elfin jacinth]

People keep saying "No you're a bad psyker" Like no bro you're huffing copium the class is boring to play is what were saying

[bronze sierra]

But yea it does like 10 damage, so while its bad, its only good cause it exists as a secondary effect

[worn canopy]

guess the game hates psykers since we cant get in the actual game anymore

[bronze sierra]

Even with trivial damage ill take SOME dot over none

[elfin jacinth]

For sure, and consider BB dmg? Like even if it was %10 of a BB that would be something to consider but 10 dmg??

[pine iris]

It's definitely not boring, IMO it's the most adaptable class

[bronze sierra]

I dont even use bb anymore as the blitz ability

[pine iris]

I can always find something to be doing for the team

[elfin jacinth]

But is it fun?

[stray ruin]

with 2 stacks its GARBAGIO! Once you hit 6-8 stacks its doing 240 damage per tick. Then at 12 stacks its doing about 340 per tick. I don't have any video proof, but you can test it yourself by going to the meat grinder on damnation difficutly. Use the lvl 25 talent kinetic overload. Stand by the reaper or crusher and headpop enemies and build up them stacks. This isn't how you would play in game, but it was a way to test damage, duration, and effects of soulblaze. I still ahve a lot more things to figure out, but its my HYPOTHESIS that soulblaze should be viable on damnation.

[noble trellis]

it's just like, wrack & ruin/kinetic overload aren't worth using even if you're on the purgatus + ascending blaze build. soulblaze's low damage would be less of an issue if psyker had talents to make better use of purgatus

[worn canopy]

bb should be percentage damage or something idk

[devout axle]

While I do agree that Psyker is the most underwhelming class, I wouldn't say it's boring.

[elfin jacinth]

cool ill consider that

[worn canopy]

psyker makes me feel crazy

thats good

[sonic zodiac]

They should make it scale higher with your charges. At max charge you should be able to one shot most

[elfin jacinth]

I think thats more-so do to the game being fun to play rather than the class

[spice oar]

Not reading all at

[worn canopy]

horde dancing at 100 with a force sword, pushing them all full well knowing that if i hold the push button too long i will die

[pine iris]

psyker is fun to play for me. for some, playing the bugged bleed damage zealot builds is fun, that would bore the shit out of me

[woven wigeon]

I feel like the design of the class is more fucky than BB atm. Staffs are powerful and they fill the voidstrike of brain burst a bit, but with so much of the feats built around brain blast (especially requiring brain blast to kill), I think that needs changing more than anything. Give other ways to gain warp charges or rebuild how they work entirely, and don't have so many feats revolve around BB if it's not meant to be a strong elite oneshotter at endgame.

I'm fine with this if this is the direction they want Psyker to go (strong staves, utility brain blast), but I think people overfixate on brain blast because the game does as well (also in writing that out, it is also a problem that most melee options and all non-staff range options are pretty bad on Psyker too lol)

[bronze sierra]

I play psyker cause hes fun for me, i like throwng orbs at enemies and erasing them

[devout axle]

^

[elfin jacinth]

Thats valid

[dusty mirage]

just having bb scale would help

[bronze sierra]

Killing enemies with balls will always be fin

[elfin jacinth]

Yesssss

[bronze sierra]

Fun

[noble trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/just-when-i-thought-i-was-out-they-pull-me-back-in-michael-corleone-al-pacino-the-godfather-gif-19249100

[woven wigeon]

That's the thing, I'm not sure they want scaling brain blast

[devout axle]

I like feeling like a powerful space wizard, even if I'm realistically not very powerful.

[woven wigeon]

Maybe they want other classes to excel over Psyker at that

[wanton rune]

I ain’t reading all that 💀

[stray ruin]

BB at 4 warp charges does 910 damage. So 10% more damage boost would only bring it up to 1000 damage. Not worth it in my opinion.

[bronze sierra]

This guy gets it

[woven wigeon]

Nice

[dusty mirage]

then it should deal lower damage at the other levels as well?

[pine iris]

"BB doesn't scale" is this really true? I think it's just being repeated a lot

[woven wigeon]

Yup, doesn't scale

[bronze sierra]

Yeah it doesnt

[elfin jacinth]

"Hey, you literally blow up a guys brain and do a ton of damage" SICK! "And it doesn't matter cause once you've channeled it a vet snipes him" OH

[woven wigeon]

You'll see that in the meat grinder, and also just moving up difficulties

Mutants go from reuiring 2 to 3 to 4, etc

[noble trellis]

it's a flat 1k damage reduced by enemy resistance

[bronze sierra]

At low difficulties jt will 1 shot all but mknsters

[devout axle]

Brain Burst does 1000 damage flat, only being increased trivially by your Warp Charges.

[bronze sierra]

To maulers needing 2 on uprising

[dusty mirage]

you dont need buffed numbers when you can just set it to intsa kill specials and below

[frigid frigate]

So your telling me the dumbasses with this information decided to make a penance needing you to BB a monstrosity entirely from 100 to 0 on Heresy?

[elfin jacinth]

I'm chillin on T4 Rn and it just feels like hitting them with spit balls if they dont die to 3 BBs

[woven wigeon]

I do think it would be nice if you gained warp charges if someone killed the target (and maybe make you cop a slight amount of the peril cost too) so that's less annoying

[worn canopy]

i like knowing that im the wet paper bag of the team who gets eviscerated by a cough and still survives knowing i am the biggest threat to myself

[bronze sierra]

Even on malice i instagib specials with jt

[fringe mortar]

Pretty sure in Sedition it's still a 2 hit ko on maulers and above.

[bronze sierra]

Nah

Ive 1 shot maulers there

Muties too

[pine iris]

re: BB scaling, it's a simple fix at least if it's really unintended

[elfin jacinth]

mmmmmm

Maybe with the buff stacks

[pine hearth]

Bb insta kills everything until heresy

with stacks

[bronze sierra]

It buffs damage accross the board iirc

[wet finch]

why should it be easy?

[elfin jacinth]

Not true

[woven wigeon]

Yup haha. Honestly I don't dislike that one so much since it's obviously impossible without a premade so you won't have people griefing randoms for it. And it was a fun challenge to complete, although I think it should be less restrictive since it's reall stressful that a stray bullet can ruin the challenge

[elfin jacinth]

oh with stacks maybe

[bronze sierra]

No?

[woven wigeon]

95% brain blast damage or something

[frigid frigate]

BB does a flat 1K damage

[pine hearth]

crushers in heresy with 6 stacks takes 2 BB's

[pine iris]

@elfin jacinth there isn't always a good sharp shooter. BBing ranged while being able to hide is extremely useful in the open rooms

[woven wigeon]

Like I think it's a fun challenge

[frigid frigate]

No you need to be the only one to deal damage to a monstrosity with Brainburst and kill it in Heresy

[bronze sierra]

Even max stacka it takes 2 for maulers and up for me on t2+

[woven wigeon]

Ye I've done it haha

[frigid frigate]

Your teammates can't do damage to the monstrosity

[woven wigeon]

That's what I mean

[worn canopy]

they should make brain burst into a laser beam that kills everything

[woven wigeon]

It should be changed to that

[frigid frigate]

That's so stupid though

[woven wigeon]

I failed the challenge twice because of stray damage

[worn canopy]

why? because i dont want it in the game

[woven wigeon]

Got it the third time

[elfin jacinth]

Talking about psyker penance? Yeah that is hot ass anti fun anti team gaming boys

[bronze sierra]

Maybe have brain burst be an AOE instead of soulblaze for wrack and ruin?

[devout axle]

Or give Brain Burst a decently high chance to chain to additional targets.

[frigid frigate]

The fact that you were able to get it is astounding but think of the casual players man

[worn canopy]

wait no this sounds cool

[bronze sierra]

Make kt worth a talent

[pine iris]

Can't defend the psyker quit penance. that's just something that made it in to the game vs a good idea

[woven wigeon]

I do think Brain Blast would benefit a lot from a feat to change how it works, like make it an AoE stagger. I loved stuff like that in Vermintide, like the one that changes how Grail Knight's ult functioned

[pine iris]

someone knew how to code that and nobody said "no" lol

[wet finch]

its an optional penance aka challenge, why should everything be accessible for everyone? then those challenges are not challenges for people who spend more time with the game

[worn canopy]

i also have the boss solo penance done

[stray ruin]

Actually, I think kinetic overload is not good with the ascendant blaze build. They contradict each other. You want to be consistently at max stacks to get the most out of kinetic overload, but ascending blaze and the quicken talents expend warp charges.

[worn canopy]

i like to be bulky

[weak galleon]

that's a good step towards making talent tree feel like it does something impactful.

[wet finch]

besides, we are not the ones who decide the difficulty on these

[woven wigeon]

Yeeee I love the beeg shoulders on it

[worn canopy]

second largest next to big man

hour and 40 minutes remain

[dusty mirage]

last reminder to bathe if you havn't done so already

[weak galleon]

I just hope we'll get smth akin to "glass cannon" talent later - more umph from staves, less toughness/hp/smth. or a psyker subclass like that.
that, and making perill quell movespeed talent default one, for QoL.

[noble trellis]

I think you misread me, you're agreeing with my statement

[rapid cypress]

Gotta go on a mission to fix the water first

[frigid frigate]

Let me rebuttal with the fact that even so that it is optional it is still absurdly difficult and is going to be a pain in the ass for completionists; and it encourages griefing your team. Quests in Vermintide II rewarded you for playing good and didn't require you to go too far out of your way to get them unlike the penances in Darktide which require you to play differently to achieve it. I'll talk more later, I must do something atm.

[bronze sierra]

so i had an idea IF they had a biomancy staff

[mild lotus]

full speed quelling would be more than simple qol, it would allow you to kite almost any mob in the game

[bronze sierra]

single target HP drain to charge a heal

[coral wing]

penance you need a premade team, its that easy

[weak galleon]

Which is why I see no alternatives to running it, as juicy as other talents may look.
it's honestly also a massive QoL, probably #1 talent in entire kit, for me.

[ember skiff]

we shall over throw the humans, be mindful my brothers and sisters

[fringe mortar]

I've felt like Brain Burst should be on charges and instant cast. Especially if they want to keep the timer for warp charges 25 seconds. I mean I'm a bit biased since I just in general don't like the heavy focus on Brain Burst to begin with. I eventually just took the 4% on kill and 10% on hit feats and used my staff all the time.

[bronze sierra]

what full walk speed quell?

jsut use a staff

[ember skiff]

perk 4 lose quell speed loss

[stray ruin]

I have some ideas to make BB viable in end game, but if you love the force weapons this is the set up that I think will best utilize them. This allows you to gain warp charges just fighting and killing with the staff and sword and you never have to manually BB. Then when at max stacks of warp charges and 100% peril use your ult and then you can keep on casting with your staff. Rinse and repeat.

[bronze sierra]

does the exact same thing

[weak galleon]

Practically, it feels like Pyro's "no slowdown on critical overcharge".
It was unconditional talent.

[ember skiff]

still slows you down

[bronze sierra]

not in my experience

[mild lotus]

staff quelling still slows you down but not nearly as much as hands quelling

[ember skiff]

bruh i run a staff and a force sword, it slows you down

[tidal adder]

And its faster

[devout axle]

I'd still prefer to have them just reduce the charge time to only 2 seconds, and let me pre-charge an instant cast between encounters.

[pine iris]

Agreed, this is my build when I want to run void staff at higher levels (prob necessary for my skill level)

[bronze sierra]

i have literally not fallen bbehind my teams walk speed when quelling with a staff

[ember skiff]

void staff.... im out

[bronze sierra]

0 times outta 10

[stray ruin]

What do you mean?

[bronze sierra]

but even if it wore liek a 5% speed reduction, its not worth sacrificing the other talents

[pine iris]

in publics?

[bronze sierra]

yeah

in pubs

[ember skiff]

wait till you get an op staff with super low recharge, youll notice it then

[weak galleon]

It also really helps when you are BB kiting crushers, bulwarks and other tough ones, that take metric fuckton of BB's to kill on high difficulties.

[pine iris]

I tried, I need the walk speed talent too for how I play

[primal aurora]

I would really like some QoL changes for psyker - prioritising elites for BB targeting, ignoring small obstacles when targeting BB.

[onyx coral]

just let me bb through fences pls

[dusty mirage]

Well, if it wasn't intended to deal high damage at endgame, then they could prepare the player by lowering its usefulness at all levels. It's a horrible idea, but that was the point.

[ember skiff]

idk aim and timing and really important

[bronze sierra]

again i havent had that issue on higher difficulties, in pubs, with my slow quell staffs

[mild lotus]

bulwarks usually die from your team's shooting once you lowered the shield

[pine iris]

Prioritising elites has issues IMO - I don't want to get stuck on enemies being prioritized

[ember skiff]

then dont take the perk if you dont need it

[pine iris]

I rarely have issues targeting the right enemy to BB

[tidal adder]

And pripritize tagged enemies through hordes

[bronze sierra]

like it still doesnt seem to me like im moving any slower without than with

[weak galleon]

If everything goes well, yes.
I tend to build for when everything doesn't go well.

[bronze sierra]

i mean fair, im just giving you my experiences

[ember skiff]

unless your teams going for 10 min runs your gonna catch up no matter what

quell timing is important

[wet finch]

There is a challenge in vermintide where you need to complete every map on cata difficulty, not exactly easy either. I mean i guess the fuss is more about there being so many hard penances straight out the gate? Apart from the penances requiring different playstyles to complete, I don't see a real difference in difficulty when comparing to VT2. They just require a lot more teamwork.

[bronze sierra]

yeah, its why i use a quick quell OP void, but you do you

[ember skiff]

yea we clearly play our psykers different

[bronze sierra]

no true right or wrong way to play

[pine iris]

I think that's the issue, it's the always catching up aspect that gets me behind. I play a lot of BB though so it might be how I use the class

[devout axle]

The thing is, they've kinda implied through the classes passives and talents that Brain Burst is SUPPOSED to be your bread and butter ability in all encounters. They just didn't think of how useless it would be having a lower dps than ANY OTHER WEAPON IN GAME.

[ember skiff]

i go pure anti elite, your clearly going for something else

[bronze sierra]

im full on anti chaff

[ember skiff]

ye

[bronze sierra]

since when i play with my group i evaporate hordes

[ember skiff]

yea i play witha team and the last thing they need is more hoard clearing

[bronze sierra]

super fun to tear chunks out of hordes

[bronze sierra]

OH?

it is time shortly bois

[dusty mirage]

we are agreeing here, I was making a poor argument to highlight how it having lower damage on higher difficulty was running counter to it's intended role.

[pine iris]

I really do think there's a big difference between style of play in publics and premades. publics require utility builds and play style

[weak galleon]

If vermintide 2 would have a "blow yourself up as Sienna to do X" achievement for some cool stuff, you can be sure it'd draw alot of attention.

[woven wigeon]

I just wish I could use brain blast on the morningstar

[pine iris]

hahaa

[woven wigeon]

Sometimes you can see the inquisitor high up above the world map

Lemee bop him

[ember skiff]

ye my zelot and ogryn deal with all close range then me and other psyker got range and elits, works all the way to lvl 5s

in pre release anyways :p

[pine iris]

@woven wigeon what room in morningstar?

[stray ruin]

Noice! Voidstrike with that transfer peril blessing will be sooooo good!

[bronze sierra]

but yeah des, ive got a +20% unarmored and a +15% flak damage with an almost full quell speed 3/4 blast radius warp flurry, warp nexus voidstrike

its MEATY

i go from 100 to 0 in like 5 seconds flat

[dusty mirage]

Yea, its all fun and games until the patch removes the cc from surgestaff, and forcesword loses the good blessing.

[ember skiff]

ye the other psyker sometimes runs a similar build when we do endless hoard shit

[woven wigeon]

In the mission select screen with the big map, the big circular room! If you look up and behind you there's a few rooms with banisters overlooking the place, sometimes you see Grendyl looking down at you guys doing all sorts of aristocratic animations like brushing himself off haha

[rapid cypress]

Be me, psyker, get 6 stacks of warp charge from talents without using a single brain burst.
Nearly impossible to have 100% .
Spam lightning staff. Elites and specials are stunned and do the funny chicken dance.
Team wipes floor with them. Game spawn enemy behind. Get smacked. Pull out fancy magic sword. Slice through them with mind blade. Quell and get all my toughness back. Repeat End game with 2.9k kills.
Life good.

[devout axle]

Posting this one last time before launch.
Thanks again to everyone who voted. It was a fun experiment.

https://strawpoll.com/polls/w4nWDaV43gA

[weak galleon]

fucking hell.
Here I was, checking shop for 30 hours, only to see 4-5 voidstrikes in ALL THAT TIME.
then on 31st hour I saw another 3, trash ones tho.

[bronze sierra]

i think my charge speed is also almost 3/4 asa well

[ember skiff]

just saying.... force sword... spam "push"... hold a crowd in place indefinitely

gonna be nerfed... im sure of it

[bronze sierra]

oh yeah

[woven wigeon]

You wanna be hitting them though

[bronze sierra]

fun as well tho

[ember skiff]

let your teAM HIT THEM

[woven wigeon]

Voidstrike would just kill them

[mild lotus]

and throw down ragers, maulers, and all the elites

[bronze sierra]

dont need to stun if theyre dead

death is the perfect stun

[ember skiff]

but i have a team for that

silly goose

[south monolith]

You can cycle push and dodges while attacking

[weak galleon]

Trauma staff is fair and balanced.

[ember skiff]

that is true, i think yall missed the point i was making

[woven wigeon]

I don't like to count on my team

Not as a selfishness thing

But what if you get 3 shield ogryns

Standing there

Menacingly

[signal turret]

Was kinda hoping the patch notes would be out by now

[wide quest]

Trauma staff is at it's peak.

[rapid cypress]

then you let them protect you silly

[dusty mirage]

tbf trauma staff is a big upgrade from the las pistol

[bronze sierra]

real talk, trauma staff just gets COMPLETELY outclasse by the others

[woven wigeon]

Las pistol is a godsend in early levels

[ember skiff]

thats why my teaam has been playing 4 player games forever, cause we trust each other. id never play anything higher then a 3 with randoms

[woven wigeon]

Then it gets laid to rest

Rip my lil dude

[pine iris]

I'm level 30 and NEVER saw a force sword in the shop. I'm pretty sure they RNG down certain weapons to keep people from getting all of them too quickly

[bronze sierra]

yeah

likely

[onyx coral]

go get a coffee/tea/drink cuz its gonna be a long run? 😄

[bronze sierra]

cant wait to overtune my staff

[weak galleon]

Absolutely yes.
Force swords and Voidstrikes are extremely rare.

[dusty mirage]

i havn't seen a GG on my Ogryn besides the level I unlocked it at.

[worn canopy]

saw a good force sword in melks

[fringe mortar]

They could just have one of every weapon type available to your class that periodically rerolls.

[ember skiff]

id like someone with actually intelligence to hear me out when i say: i switch AWAY from the void staff and my team dies. cause its so shit right

[worn canopy]

100 short

so so so sad

[mild lotus]

I didn't check, will all the weapon tuning options be available at launch?

[devout axle]

I find Voidstrikes all the time. The staff I've found most rare has actually been Purgatus staff.

[ember skiff]

1 hit to the head and can wipe a area in a single blast... ok

[rapid cypress]

Yeah but you have to aim

[ember skiff]

gimmi your force staffs. all of them

[silk gazelle]

Voidstrike staff for sure the best. Wish I could try the purgarus staff but it crashed my game

[rapid cypress]

Me no likey aim

[lucid mortar]

I love voidstrike personally, though I don't play 4s and 5s yet

[bronze sierra]

real talk

[primal aurora]

I would also like some flavor for running psyker in the team:

• stronger or different reactions to daemonhosts (earlier warnings)
• danger sense to warn psyker about incoming attacks from behind
• some minor buff and/or debuff while carrying a grimoire
  and so on

[bronze sierra]

they need to fix that @silk gazelle

[ember skiff]

i aim very well. i got the 20 headhsot thing in my second or third game with a force staff

[pine iris]

could be random-random. from different people saying "i never see X weapon, but I always see Y weapon" I have a feeling each time you create a character some set of weapons gets RNGed up and some get RNGed down

[narrow fiber]

whats the best staff for 4 and 5s?

[weak galleon]

can we switch our shops pls?
I'm getting showered in Purgatus. As I mentioned before, 4-5 voidstrikes in 30 hours.
Last 10 hours I was just checking in to "well, no voidstrike again? well, same as usual"

[pine iris]

@narrow fiber most people will say the electric one

[mild lotus]

Surge staff is an easy goto

[pine iris]

in fact I think it's just correct

[devout axle]

Uh ... every class has a 'danger sense'. There is an audio queue when something is about to hit you, even from behind.

[rapid cypress]

Electric boogaloo

[ember skiff]

yall really cant aim with a mouse eh...

LMFAO

[woven wigeon]

My poor Veteran, deprived of a Bolter since their inception

[south monolith]

Void is very good in 4 still and should still be fine in 5, especially with bonus to infested and unarmored

[mild lotus]

I can, that's why I run laspitol.

[humble marten]

Sooo.... I demand patch notes. Now.

[worn canopy]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/734913893956190259/976257047739904020/E66B4542-28AC-4B72-93EB-ABBCFAEF0AB6-1.gif

[woven wigeon]

No u

[night marten]

I'm ready for the real staff wars

[woven wigeon]

The staff wars have already started haha

[noble trellis]

imo voidstrike for random PUGs, surge if you have a good vet on comms

[bronze sierra]

im interested to see what new weapons get added

[woven wigeon]

We've got cliques and everything

[ember skiff]

yea im gonna aim the crap outta you void users

[weak galleon]

4 Psykers with Surge is pretty fun tho.

[worn canopy]

they started long ago

[rapid cypress]

Not that I can’t aim but I just don’t want to 😎

[pine iris]

Why? just wondering, interested

[weak galleon]

Sith lords.

[mild lotus]

Staff Wars: the return of the psyker

[ember skiff]

bruh

[rapid cypress]

HAHA

[pine iris]

lol this comic is pretty spot-on IMO. I can't deny it

(i'm the guy on the left and I know it lol)

[rapid cypress]

Luv u des im sorry

[woven wigeon]

Void is seen as the bland since it seems to be the most popular, Surge see themselves as chads (lmao perfect timing), Purgatus as the weird hipsters no one understands but are pretty diehard, and there's like one Trauma staff absolute nutcase

[noble trellis]

my cope when I do no damage to hordes

[worn canopy]

flame fwoofh

[ember skiff]

im literally crying

XD

[rapid cypress]

Only issue with lightning

[pine iris]

I use surge staff but I don't think it's as fun as void

[night marten]

true

[rapid cypress]

it can’t go up or down

[ember skiff]

ok fr tho lighting does like what 20 a tick

[bronze sierra]

look i admit i do have a crippling copium addiction as a void user

[rapid cypress]

literally lightning won’t reach the second floor if you’re on the first lmao

[frail geyser]

Its a pretty chad feeling to see a mauler patrol not able to swing on your team

[woven wigeon]

I use void because of the noise you get when you headpop like 50 poxwalkers with it and your headphones explode with the crunch

[mild lotus]

inb4 FS nerfs the hell out of all staves except trauma

[lucid mortar]

surge staff just feels kinda jank, like you're aiming at nothing, which I guess is how it works

[frail geyser]

Your team who if pugging probably cant dodge

[primal aurora]

surge staff could be more interesting with different primary attack, something that could actually deal damage

[bronze sierra]

but you dont need stuns if the team can dodge

[pine iris]

@charred galleon the reason is managing the meta for retention (but you're right that random-random and RNGed down sets would look the same from the player side 100%)

[frail geyser]

Its cus you can buffer charge

[rapid cypress]

That’s a big ‘if’ 😭

[devout axle]

The worst part about Surge is the accidentally blowing yourself up because you exploded with no animation.

[night marten]

that's not how it works in practice though

[bronze sierra]

thats why im down for it in pubs, but my team is usually pretty good about that

[frail geyser]

Massive if

[mild lotus]

ever heard of spontaneous explosion

[dusty mirage]

make the primary attack detonate the chain stun

[bronze sierra]

so its why it usually falls to my boi is chaff clear

[weak galleon]

that would be a red flag for me, tbh. usually means there's a paywall gated stronger dlc content planned.
They didn't do it with Vt2 (regardless of issues with Moonfire), so I hope it won't happen.

[noble trellis]

I have never accidentally died with any staff except surge. skill issue mainly, but still

[woven wigeon]

That's the thing, Surge benefits from player composition greatly, but without that composition you'll start to have problems. Void is very universally useful. It's why I use it, and also why I'll never use the Flamer on Zealot (what if everyone else is close range?)

[jolly wasp]

its due to resistance when you lose warp charges, it should be implemented more gracefully tho for sure

[woven wigeon]

And also why I hated playing melee only in Vermintide haha

[fringe mortar]

Psyker gets no grenade because they are the grenade. Surge is just the fuse.

[bronze sierra]

cause A. i usually have a lack of specials to kill and B. they dont need to dodge if theres nothing TO dodge

[pine iris]

I think the surge staff primary graphics look puny. but it definitely is strong

it looks like a static shock and hits like a small sedan

[mild lotus]

ogryn main detected

[pine iris]

hahaha

[rapid cypress]

It’s the strongest staff because it lets you say “UNLIMITED POWAH” in the VC

[bronze sierra]

real talk tho

[arctic holly]

If i .playing Psyker you have to mute me

[bronze sierra]

im all about the flame staff

[devout axle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li1pBqfGmrE

[bronze sierra]

its just the most fun for me

cause hear me out

fire fun

[arctic holly]

The standard force staff is kinda ass.

[woven wigeon]

And then immediately get yeeted down into an engine by some dying bloke

[rapid cypress]

I just don’t like the left click :( but right click makes up for it

(fire staff)

[tidal adder]

You sound psychotic

[bronze sierra]

we have a habit, me and my zealot friend, to just shout BURN IN HOLY HELL FIRE*

[frail geyser]

Finishing runs more fun

[elfin jacinth]

Is there a certain amount of charge you need on the Surge Staff to stun maulers?

[noble trellis]

also lets you roleplay as sidious when a mutant grabs you and throws you off the map

[primal aurora]

btw, which voices do you run on your psykers?

[arctic holly]

Soulblaze feats need to be entirely reworked. It's literally just the fire stacks from the purgative staff. Why settle fore puny stacks on BB when you can build 10 stacks in 2 seconds with the staff

[signal turret]

No

[mild lotus]

female savant

[frail geyser]

Lvl 0 charge stuns all

[rapid cypress]

Crazy german guy

[elfin jacinth]

German doctor ofc

[frail geyser]

Save bosses

[lucid mortar]

I went witch doctor vibes

[bronze sierra]

@tidal adder at what point did i say it was good

[arctic holly]

Female seer

[elfin jacinth]

Is it for the same duration regardless of charge? What does charge do? Dmg?

[pine iris]

I will say - when the zealot's flame weapon goes off at the right time, it's an absolute savior

[fringe mortar]

I feel like Male Loner is the most popular voice.

[devout axle]

Loner. Every word out of his mouth is sedition and it's no wonder he was shipping on a prison ship. It's amazing.

[frail geyser]

Dmg and i wanna say 2 extra targets stunned

[bronze sierra]

fun =/= good

[gilded viper]

Fun is more valuable

[frail geyser]

But you can just lvl0 twice and stun a bunch that way

[arctic holly]

Effectively it does

Fun is good

[rapid cypress]

Foreshortened lifespans best line

[bronze sierra]

lemme rephrase

[frail geyser]

But you swap to force sword for hordes and switch to stop big bois

[devout axle]

Why aren't you paying attention? LOOK AT ME, NOT THEM!

[signal turret]

I never noticed in increase in damage charging it but I did notice it chains to an additional 2 enemies at full charge. When game launches you can see it in Meat Grinder

[weak galleon]

I disliked them all, neither clicked with me, but german voice drawbacks felt "salvageable".

[woven wigeon]

You mean power sword? Force sword def isn't for hordes haha

[bronze sierra]

fun =/= meta, infact fun>meta

[gilded viper]

Savant is my favorite

[woven wigeon]

Unless you have no other option I suppose

[half river]

Savant. The voice who talks about dreams is so annoying

[primal aurora]

I want to note female french voice/personality for psyker - Savant. It is sexy, soothing and overall nice. It is the voice most fitting for proper teamplay and down right pleasant to hear.
Naturally I chose Loner psycho voice for my psyker.

[weak galleon]

It's very much for hordes. Very safe sword.

[gilded viper]

Savant hides their madness well. But their obsession with protocol gives it away

[mild lotus]

Force sword rules

[rapid cypress]

I Gotta get in a 4 orgyn squad one day on my second character. Looks so fun

[bronze sierra]

oh i did that one time

[arctic holly]

I hope they increase the duration of warp charges, or make it so you lose them one at a time

[frail geyser]

On heresy was able to kill the flak melees with a full charge but not an empty one

[woven wigeon]

I like the male dreamer Psyker. Which hurts me to say because I'm pretty sure the female one is Sienna lol

[bronze sierra]

on an assain mission

[rapid cypress]

box? box. box. lunch?

[frail geyser]

Could be crits or w/e

[woven wigeon]

But I really like the other female psyker voices more

[bronze sierra]

broke the shield and insta gibbed with 4 rippers

[woven wigeon]

Loner female is so funny

[mild lotus]

I was thinking the same

[arctic holly]

Warp charges are hot garbage trash shitty doodoo but you HAVE to use them

[tidal adder]

Im not saying its bad either, all psykers are psychotic its basically a requirement, excuse my pun

[woven wigeon]

And Savant male and female are like, the chillest characters

[bronze sierra]

oh yeah

[woven wigeon]

Closest to just regular people

[pine iris]

the zealot voice annoys me more than the psykers voices

[arctic holly]

Seer is funny and sounds like sienna so she wins

[frail geyser]

Light>heavy>push is a very good sequence for hordes

[mild lotus]

Imagine being a level headed individual in wh40k

[arctic holly]

Who the fuck plays 40k to be regular sounding people lol

[frail geyser]

Please use that chain

[tropic halo]

Which one is the French one again?

[bronze sierra]

tazer, hear me out

[lucid mortar]

warp charges are our tax for not needing ammo

[signal turret]

When I was testing for awhile I noticed the damage was never consistent, like the column of 3 flak dudes in meat grinder, sometimes it would 1-shot them all, other times it would only kill 1-2, its super weird

[bronze sierra]

loner male is the most level headed of the voices

[mild lotus]

female savant, the best

[frail geyser]

Its prolly crits then

[primal aurora]

Female loner voiceline subtitles during Ult activation: [psychotic laughter]

[tropic halo]

That is what I chose

[mild lotus]

I tend to not get level headed vibes from mad german DOKTOR of doubtful profession

[pine iris]

the african accent voice is not good because his lines are lame and sad.

[signal turret]

Possibly, the UI gives zero details on what my Surge's crit chance is 😦

[night marten]

I like that one too, generally dignified voice lines until you do a shit ton of killing then it's just manic laughter

[signal turret]

I do have the Warp Nexus perk on mines tho

[weak galleon]

German one is... level headed enough by Wh40k standards.
Suffers from superiority complex and too much of a crybaby, but that's curable.
unlike having Beloved entity in the warp.

[arctic holly]

I relate to the seer because i also pretend other people aren't real

[woven wigeon]

I went female savant cuz ye I like how she's chill, sounds great when she shouts, and is nice to Ogryns. But I heard female loner say some really funny sarcastic shit and her evil laugh when she ults is so great

So

Now I'm not sure which I prefer haha

[weak galleon]

then again, I only checked male voices.

[pine iris]

the german voice actor is the same from VT I think

[celest hedge]

female savant is nice and I wish I saw her more, I play the seer one that sounds like sienna so i'm very used to hearing her

[noble garden]

Personally prefer the Seer, talk about his beloved wasn't as grating as i thought it would be

[arctic holly]

Too bad you can't change your voice at the barber

[bitter abyss]

loner female psyker VA is best overall imo

[woven wigeon]

Male Seer I really like and can also be really funny, I like him more than Male Loner

[signal turret]

I like the dialogue of the male Loner Psyker but the voice itself is super annoying

[woven wigeon]

I don't hate male loner but I'd def find him grating if I played him haha

[mild lotus]

Imagine that
"Hello, I'd like to get a new haircut on my personality and back story."

[arctic holly]

Let us completely rework our character's appearance and name and backstory on a whim

YES

[celest hedge]

loner female is the professional sounding one, which I like more for other classes, though i like loner male alot

[fringe mortar]

If I remember correctly, it's on back burner. They didn't add it immediately because of limitations.

[devout axle]

It's Saltzpyre's voice actor, ye.

[heady maple]

The beloved is literally the Emperor

[arctic holly]

Apparently the seer isn't sienna VA

Sounds just like her tho

[night marten]

to be fair, changing voice/gender or other traits is probably pretty doable in the 40k universe

[sour bison]

yes, sure

[woven wigeon]

"Actually, I'm from Cadia."
"You can't just say that now-"
"Nono see I told the barber so and I got pink eyes now, it's official."

[celest hedge]

I would like the ability to change my voice just for variety, I would on my psyker and zealot

[rapid cypress]

same!

[mild lotus]

also, now I got a german accent

deal with it

[heady maple]

The pinkeye came from all the nurgle exposure

[celest hedge]

I think you need to see a doctor buddy, or people will think you're hanging with nurgle

[arctic holly]

40k is basically cyberpunk anyway so it makes sense

[frail geyser]

Very doable. Probably not available to folks of our characters caliber but doable.

[weak galleon]

That is disputable and sounds too good to be true for the setting.
Especially when specific zealous believer in the emperor screams "Blood for the Emperor, Skulls for the Golden Throne".
Somebody speculated beloved could be Nurgle, though I'm not confident in that either.

[devout axle]

40k is a fantasy setting with some scifi technology thrown in.

[charred topaz]

I went with the beloved voice also. The thinking its all a dream is very funny to me 🙂

[rapid cypress]

Hear me out… Ork weird boi barber.

[safe spear]

The fact that Cadia is the only option to get different customizations is the most mind-boggling design decision ever

[fringe mortar]

It's a lore reason.

[woven wigeon]

And it only gets funnier if they implemented class changing.
Gremlin Cockney Veteran: The lot of you wouldn't last a day in the guard.
Psyker: Oh really now?

[heady maple]

It's probably the most understandable of all of Darktide's questionable decisions actually

[woven wigeon]

Psykers also get the fun blue eyes! And I think some hairstyles and tattoos are classlocked too. Also yeah the whole, Ogryn-ness for Ogryns

[safe spear]

I don’t think any of the options even affect anything though right? Why not just make us all from Cadia then

[arctic holly]

Or the beloved was just a fun character quirk and means literally nothing. I hope they develop more lore for it tho

[primal aurora]

A voiceline I want to see in the game:

• after killing a horde -
  Psyker: "It could have been worse."
• immidiately comes a bigger horde -
  Random teammate afterwards: "Someone get a muzzle for our psyker"

[charred topaz]

Cadia gets purple eyes for the same reason psykers get glowy blue eyes

[fringe mortar]

I'm willing to bet most people chose Cadia regardless.

[devout axle]

Only for my Guardsman. Cadia stands.

[arctic holly]

Most people are not major 40k fans. Most people will pick the first option(s) and not think about it much

[night marten]

I loved the blue eyes, really sold the aesthetic imo

[pine iris]

have a good launch day all, heading out

[arctic holly]

Cadia is near the bottom of the list. No way it's the most common

[bronze sierra]

i was interested to see if cadia did anything for my psyker

sadly it did not

[woven wigeon]

I was with a team of randoms going through an endless hordes heresy mission and we were close to the end. There were some server hiccups so I was like "Lol imagine if we crashed now" and one of them got legitimately angry at me lol

[safe spear]

It’s just funny how the options are either pick Cadia and get more customization, OR don’t pick Cadia and get less customizations. Literally no trade off. Really bad design decision but yeah it really doesn’t matter obviously, it’s just so weird

[arctic holly]

Cadian flames looking awful slaaneshi

[fringe mortar]

If they wanted the purple eyes, they could see that it's Cadia locked and just go back to choose it.

[charred topaz]

Is there a place i can view my character background choices? They never come up and i've honestly completely forgotten

[fringe mortar]

Especially if they don't care about lore.

[rapid cypress]

I’ve never gotten a cadian line on my psyker 🤔 even though I picked cadia

[woven wigeon]

I decided not to make my Vet Cadian. Instead, my Ogryns a bloody Cadian war hero.

[arctic holly]

I guarantee nobody cares about this

[bronze sierra]

yeah i dont think theres cadian voice lines for the psyker

[arctic holly]

Not the average gamer

[woven wigeon]

Bright pink eyes for my big boy

[bronze sierra]

i went the glossy purple eyes for the psyker

[devout axle]

Speculation. I can't help but think that on the idea board the 'backstory' of our characters was meant to have an affect on character voice lines, but they likely either couldn't make that work, or they didn't have the time/budget for different voice lines for every different combination of backstory options.

[arctic holly]

Too hard to pass up on fun shiny blue eyes

[rapid cypress]

I made myself look like Farquaad

[brave drift]

An hour left Siblings.

[night marten]

fairly certain I've heard Moebian(sp) related voice lines from my character

[rapid cypress]

Beautiful black hair

[bronze sierra]

funnily enough

[rapid cypress]

soulless eyes

[bronze sierra]

that was my original design

[rapid cypress]

shortest possible settings

[brave drift]

Time to show them the power of Brain Burst.

[wise prism]

my beloved you've gone quiet

[bronze sierra]

i was tallquaad

[rapid cypress]

my twin 🥹

[devout axle]

I've definitely heard Cadia related voice lines from Vets, which is what I'm basing my speculation off of.

[light lintel]

My Beloved said he missed me, and cannot wait for my return!

[bronze sierra]

i have since gone for a more psyker esque aesthetic

shaved head, glossy eyes, third eye tatoo

[night marten]

I think you're probably right, maybe (hopefully) we'll see more like that in the future

[brave drift]

I wish all of them had unique voice lines.

[night marten]

it's all about the third eye tattoo

[wise prism]

burn over one glossed eye the other a shiny blue

[bronze sierra]

i think the vets are the only ones with cadian lines

[brave drift]

Ye

[weary wasp]

Nah. Too overused. Not as much as kreig tho

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/aristotle-ballin-gif-22706788

[brave drift]

I think it's one of their Personalities.

[primal aurora]

I have to say that I'm really impressed with quality of voice acting in the game, considering sheer amount of combinations. I liked more personal and deeper dialogues in VT, but sadly it is impractical to go for such here.

[glacial abyss]

i dislike krieg just because of the fact that theyre overused

and by overused i mean people just talking about krieg all the fucking time

[brave drift]

Yeah. I do like the development of voice lines the higher your level.

[weak galleon]

Aren't krieg very short lived and heavily indoctrinated, due to them undergoing accelerated growth in those clone vats?
unless I'm confusing with smth.

[bleak sonnet]

yrd

[fringe mortar]

When I was making my character originally, I was surprised Krieg wasn't an option until I saw that we were prisoners. "Oh, that makes sense."

[weary wasp]

basically, yeh

i bet there will still be cosmetics just because of the fact that they will sell like cookies

[light lintel]

I was a bit skeptical to see how fatshark was gonna pull off these characters especially coming from how amazingly dynamic they were in Vermintide, but I gotta say, I'm enjoying it so far.

[brave drift]

To my surprise, I didn't get to play with a lot of the Cadian Veteran though

Probably heard it like 3 or 4 times.

[glacial abyss]

need kasrkin cosmetics though

[glacial abyss]

theyre made in many different ways but a big one is cloning

[weary wasp]

wheres the vostroya and skitarii at

[glacial abyss]

indoctrination most definitely lol

[glacial abyss]

skitarii wouldnt be in inquistion force, what youre looking for is an enginseer

[primal aurora]

What are the chances that our psyker would look like a cultist-chan with premium shop cosmetics?

[glacial abyss]

who knows i want to see though

[weary wasp]

thats a whole new class there but it would not be a surprise of addmech would be added eventually down the line, just because of the demand

[fringe mortar]

I'm expecting it, to be honest.

[brave drift]

Grey Knight when

[glacial abyss]

definitely expecting an acolyte or enginseer. most likely enginseer as its most viable lorewise and isnt high ranking

[woven wigeon]

Psyker Librarian class but we we just worked in a library before being conscripted

[rapid cypress]

When are we getting our magical girl psyker and maid ogryn outfits?

[spice oar]

lmao

[mild lotus]

In the tzeentch expansipn

[rapid cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-nod-agree-gif-21960775

[brave drift]

Aren't Librarians legitimate psykers?

[weary wasp]

the wagie scribe career

[glacial abyss]

space marine psykers

yes

[fringe mortar]

Imprisoned for putting a book in a wrong spot.

[glacial abyss]

lmaooo

[brave drift]

Wish there were more weapon models.

Earnable.

[rapid cypress]

There’s an unlockable head for staves

[bleak sonnet]

head

[rapid cypress]

It’s like uhh wings and an eye?

[weary wasp]

sounds slaaneshy

[visual adder]

Just waiting for the Eminem fortnite skin tbh

[dusty mirage]

even the staves are bald smh

[rapid cypress]

or do you buy it 🤔

Ohp. You buy it. It’s like 20k in the shop.

[steel musk]

So like

[bleak sonnet]

when game out

[steel musk]

are yall playing darktide

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-moment-rat-gif-22816005

guh??

[brave drift]

Praying for full release Psyker changes

[glacial abyss]

sharkfat

[hard breach]

Siblings! The general chat is a mess. How do you deal with all this holds hands over ears noise?!

[bleak sonnet]

praying they nerf psyker

so people complain more

[dusty mirage]

*surgestaff no longer stuns, forcesword nerfed, Staff primary uses ammo.

[night marten]

hang out with the psyker bros here instead

[woven wigeon]

Dw I sent some feedback, the feat for being able to block with peril should be getting nerfed 😌

[brave drift]

Staff consumes warp charge for ammo

[weary wasp]

I will commit major heresy

[honest geyser]

is psyker considered bad?

[primal aurora]

brain burst now deals zealot grenade damage

[glacial abyss]

ong

[hard breach]

It uses the warp for ammo

[fleet crater]

20% speed reduction per warp charge

[woven wigeon]

I think Psykers are in a better place than Ogryn and Zealot

So

[bleak sonnet]

psyker considered bad by bad players yes

[woven wigeon]

Can't complain too much

[bleak sonnet]

psykers are good

[cyan echo]

I consider psyker awesome

[weary wasp]

with 30 lvl zealot and 500+ power weapons I can say that zealot FUCKS

[brave drift]

[dusty mirage]

A well played psyker is what got me to try out the class in the first place

[tropic halo]

I'm just here for the outfits tbh

[cyan echo]

its just that the feats dont mesh super well with the abilities

[rapid cypress]

I think guardsman is the most powerful people were saying, but… BB make brain go pop and lightning go brrr so

[woven wigeon]

Man I just realised, power sword is almost def gonna be nerfed on launch. I'll miss you, lil buddy

[bleak sonnet]

thank god

cant wait

[hard breach]

Speaking of us Siblings, do you prefer the flames or the surge if you had to choose between the two? No offense to you void staff loving siblings

[vocal agate]

we can hope

[glacial abyss]

true

[glacial abyss]

surge

[honest geyser]

I can clear Heresy fine with it. The talent tree feels like a giant mess and warp chargers are stupid though

[woven wigeon]

They'd be silly beans if there's balance changes and power sword wasn't touched haha

And ye that's where I'm at, it performs well but a lot of the design is oof

[night marten]

purge, because of the cool factor, but also for horde management and feat synergy

[glacial abyss]

aqshy is a psyker player

[tropic halo]

Void is most popular, followed by surge, followed by purge... then there's somebody who likes trauma staff wandering around somewhere

[glacial abyss]

real men play psyker

[woven wigeon]

ANd also 80% of Psyker's weapon choices aren't great

But

That's where all the classes kinda are tbf

[rapid cypress]

What I find silly is Psyker says “long range high damage.” but it’s more like “mid range, mid damage. CC”

[primal aurora]

Probably surge, though flames is pretty fun.

[bleak sonnet]

purge is for chads

surge is for

lads

[sullen tusk]

Brainburst now requires 10 charges to kill a Mauler on Diff 4
Brainburst glow is brighter, allowing other team members to more easily grief your stacks
Warp Charges now give +1% damage and decay every 5 seconds
All staves but Lightning nerfed to further cement your roll as a randomly targetting CC bot
(kidding)

[hard breach]

Please do not troll my Siblings, some of us are unstable

[rapid cypress]

The warp does that.

[woven wigeon]

Psyker players now also suffer from migraines that strengthen as your peril raises to better immerse yourself

[sullen tusk]

Lol i said i was joking (i hope im joking :P)

[woven wigeon]

Also all Veteran players are now cockney gremlins

[rapid cypress]

But hey at least I can call my hot slaaneshi gf from across the galaxy by just closing my eyes and concentrating.

[weak galleon]

it's special, anti-sinergetic with itself, with a talent tree that you can simply throw away and nothing of value would be lost.
unlike, say, camo or grenade refill on veteran.
But it's viable to play.

[dusty mirage]

"why do i have a migraine" opens another energy drink.

[bleak sonnet]

false

[night marten]

eh, I wouldn't say the talent tree has no value, there's just a lot of room for improvement

[honest geyser]

sounds about right. I do enjoy it though

[hard breach]

If they were not i promise you, i will go to Stockholm and walk into their office. I can just catch a train

[rapid cypress]

Someone isn’t utilizing their warp charges 🤔

[brave drift]

39 minutes

So close

[primal aurora]

General opinion is that psyker is bad at high difficulty and neat to play at low-mid difficulty.

[bleak sonnet]

false

[woven wigeon]

I wouldn't say Psyker is bad at 4-5

[dusty mirage]

39 minutes is almost 38 minutes

[woven wigeon]

It's no Vet but

[hard breach]

I do not like this opinion.

[woven wigeon]

Your staves are great

[weary wasp]

Looks at 18% warp charges damage buff

Looks at 60% raw power unchained siena buff

[vocal agate]

Yep I enjoy it very much up to the malice diff, i do not enjoy a cc build you are expected to play on heresy+

[weary wasp]

HMMMM

[night marten]

this is an opinion held by those who either aren't good at psyker or played with a skilled one

[woven wigeon]

I don't CC on Heresy haha

[honest geyser]

I felt weaker on 3 than 4. Never tried 5 though

[woven wigeon]

Well not only

[brave drift]

I wish Warp Charges and Soulblaze perks were changed (apart from Ascendant Blaze)

[woven wigeon]

But Voidstrike is an amazing trashkiller

[weak galleon]

need to define "bad" then.
it does work on high difficulty.
Does it give player proper "feel" of a glass cannon powerhouse? Kinda not. it's.. clunky.

[rapid cypress]

Psyker is great at 4-5 🤔 unlimited kiting of hordes with surge. Have rezzed the whole team just by stalling and kiting.

[woven wigeon]

And if Power Sword is nerfed

It'll finally give Psykers a niche over Vets

[glacial abyss]

guys watch the twitch stream

stop talking

[woven wigeon]

Why would I watch other people ew

[weak galleon]

what twitch steam

[honest geyser]

I find the force sword is kind of a waste. Chain sword feels much better

[glacial abyss]

watch the twitch stream so i dont have to regurgitate boring info that they explained to u

[hard breach]

But we enjoy conversing

[glacial abyss]

fat shark

[solid lake]

https://www.twitch.tv/fatsharkgames

[rapid cypress]

That’s my fetish

[night marten]

the force sword in no universe is a waste. it's easily one of the best, if not the best, melee weapon in a psyker's kit

[woven wigeon]

Ooo patch note stuff

Ok just this once I'll watch other people

[weak galleon]

like, you can compensate for psyker's shortcomings with skill, very succesfully so.
Do those shortcomings disappear due to that? Nope, they are still there.

[woven wigeon]

LMAO started with power sword

[bleak sonnet]

wait

where's patch notes

[sullen tusk]

Agreed, outside of Mind In Motion (no movespeed on quelling) and the talent that lets you take perils instead of stamina when blocking (surprisingly great talent btw), the talents dont really do that much. Like, the 6 warp charges talent. It only affects one enemy type for brainburst breakpoints in Diff 4 (Flamer specials), and that's at 5 stacks. I don't really see the point of 6% damage boost that requires paying more attention to stacks which is something I tried to spec away from having to worry about as much as I can

[woven wigeon]

Nooo not my knife, dont nerf my knife

[woven wigeon]

They're going over them on the stream

[glacial abyss]

watch the stream. stop being blind

[bleak sonnet]

is there written anywhere

bro im deaf how am i gonna listen to the stream

[hard breach]

Did they say anything about psyker yet? Looks like they're reading patch notes. How typical of them to read them on stream instead of releasing them for us to discuss

[dusty mirage]

yea, id rather just read it

[glacial abyss]

u are better than this.

[sullen tusk]

They nerfed knife? You're kidding

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-disappointed-in-you-smh-shaking-my-head-gif-22424563

[woven wigeon]

Ooo, less stunlocks for player is nice, it could be really annoying

[woven wigeon]

Ye they mentioned they're making the dodge dancing weaker

Which

😦

[night marten]

general combat mechanic changes currently

[woven wigeon]

That's the point of the dang thing

OOO

[vocal agate]

yess

[devout axle]

Thank goodness for reduced stuns. Getting constantly microstunned by flamer/bomber flames is annoying.

[woven wigeon]

Toughness stronger also

[sullen tusk]

Omg man... smh

[dusty mirage]

do they post patchnotes?

[weak galleon]

did they mention psyker changes yet?

[night marten]

not yet

[woven wigeon]

They'll likely post them after stream/on launch

But I'm just randomly guessing, so

[visual adder]

https://youtu.be/Rs18z4HJAlM

[night marten]

nice, more crafting mats will drop

[cyan echo]

Sorry, not related to anything in general. Just wanted to share

[gritty stratus]

^ me waiting for launhc

[teal needle]

Me dealing with being in an office for the next 8 hours

[gritty stratus]

:c

[bleak sonnet]

work from home moment

[night marten]

surge staff elevation attacks fixed apparently

[rapid cypress]

they fixed surge staff verticality

[honest geyser]

they should put what she's reading on the screen. This is awful

[tawny nacelle]

😮

[rapid cypress]

Yaaay!

[weak galleon]

Psykers no longer switch to melee from BB?
I am not sure about that one.

[ornate hamlet]

Are patch notes?

[teal needle]

[rapid cypress]

Surge staff superiority is here

[woven wigeon]

They just can't release them yet, it'll come out haha

[tawny nacelle]

finally i can zappystick everything and not feel cucked by the game 😮

[hard breach]

Forced melee

[dusty mirage]

yea, i noped out pretty fast, just read the important stuff in here till the notes get posted.

[weak galleon]

I mean, before, if you went to BB from Staff, and then had to defend yourself, you pressed Q and you were in melee.
Whats going to happen now?

[signal turret]

#psyker-class waiting for the shoe to drop in the patch notes

[honest geyser]

going into this beta

[woven wigeon]

I think that's all the balance stuff she'll be going over, so

No shoe until the written notes I think

[cyan echo]

Shoe?

[woven wigeon]

To drop on

Our heads?

[gritty stratus]

i like potatoes

[half river]

Balance changes

[dusty mirage]

or just a bunch of shadownerfs

[woven wigeon]

I think that's the expression?

[cyan echo]

Oh

[tawny nacelle]

i am a literal ikea tableleg.

[woven wigeon]

Also

[cyan echo]

sorry i'm not down with the nomenclature

[woven wigeon]

Psyker toes

Forbidden

[hard breach]

Guess we'll find out

[honest geyser]

forums

we year 2000 again

[rapid cypress]

delicious*

[ornate hamlet]

Did anyone hear them say as we enter into this beta?

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-emotes-laugh-smile-king-gif-14309345

[half river]

Are you strong and wooden

[glacial abyss]

they let the slip

[honest geyser]

Yeah, hopefully that was a mistake

[signal turret]

If they touch my Surge Staff its war

[ornate hamlet]

mind in motion should be baseline for psyker

[night marten]

they improved elevated attacks

[tawny nacelle]

im very uplifting and i have wood

[signal turret]

The great enemy has been defeated

[half river]

I love that. I'm gonna use that now

[bleak sonnet]

no psyker buffs>

aside from surege?

[tawny nacelle]

you're welcum 🙂

[woven wigeon]

She didn't talk percentages

[rapid cypress]

Surge staff elevation fix only buff we need.

[woven wigeon]

So I imagine the granular nerfs/buffs are in the written notes

[ornate hamlet]

are there notes?

No new weapons?

[hard breach]

11 pages of patch notes? Is she shitting us?

[signal turret]

Surge Staff supremacy intensifies

[night marten]

they didn't cover all patch notes, no way to tell whether there will be more info once they're published (they're not currently)

[half river]

Make surge staff hit like 15 enemies at max charge

[dusty mirage]

time to bust out ctrl+f

[vocal agate]

At the beginning they said how they love playing psyker, so i expect they think we are ok xD

[eternal quest]

that would be a bit OP ;D

[ornate hamlet]

great now there's even more reason to use nothing else but surge staff

switching mains to zealot sorry yall

Traitorrrr

[signal turret]

🫡

[ornate hamlet]

tbf that did need to be fixed

[hard breach]

Rogue Psyker identified

[signal turret]

Thank you for your service sibling

[bleak sonnet]

lata bitch

[woven wigeon]

Like ye she mentioned the "power of the power sword is changed". There's no way that's a buff, so we'll prob only see the vaules of buffs/nerfs in the written notes

[ornate hamlet]

ill return once they make psyker actually fun

See you next year

[half river]

I want my CC niche goddamnit

[cyan echo]

"Power sword was underperforming and now causes BB as well"

[eternal quest]

charged sword oneshots maulers tho

[night marten]

if you're not already having fun, it may not be the right choice for you

[glacial abyss]

aqshy said that everyone else is not a psyker fan

only the best play psyker

[warm meteor]

i think BB should one shot all bosses

[glacial abyss]

simple as.

[tawny nacelle]

saame, i want to control the whole engagement >:)

[half river]

I think BB should crash your teammate's games

[rapid cypress]

I think BB should unlock all penances when you use it once, and instantly win every mission.

[eternal quest]

you still have it 😄

[glacial abyss]

true

[proud mantle]

yo guys, what do you think it's the best staff and why?

[ornate hamlet]

how can you enjoy mind numbing lightning cc gameplay for hours on end and having to maintain a 25 second buff constantly?

[eternal quest]

id rather make it chain on all enemies

making it more balanced

[ornate hamlet]

maintaining peril balance is fun tho

[woven wigeon]

Nooooo the Surge gang had just settled down

[devout axle]

Would fix the problem of Veterans killing everything before you finishing channeling your BB.

[night marten]

because I'm purge staff gang

[ornate hamlet]

New bolted staff

[eternal quest]

like stun on every enemy you chain for 1.5 sc

[weary wasp]

The best staff is a braced heavy rifle

[rapid cypress]

Surge staff 😎

[signal turret]

Abandon the ways of warp charge maintenance

[proud mantle]

new?

[teal needle]

Void strike for wave clear surge for firefights and cc

[ornate hamlet]

then you literally do nothing on damnation besides spam left click

[woven wigeon]

Trauma for making a cute circle

[ornate hamlet]

Bolter staff. Throws bolsters

[woven wigeon]

It's a very fun circle

[sullen tusk]

Voidstrike for having fun, surge for being a CC bot on high diff lol

[acoustic pine]

@ornate hamlet you don't just spam lightning, you mix with melee because lightning damage isn't very high.

[rapid cypress]

Get talent for gaining warp charge when allies kill stuff.
forget warp charges exist while maxed out at 6
profit 😎

[signal turret]

And descend into glorious melee during hordes, yeah, providing endless CC to get my team through encounters is fun

[half river]

If I can't CC my teammates out of the belly of the Beast of Nurgle then I want a refund

[tawny nacelle]

yes.

[woven wigeon]

Question about that

Has anyone ever peril exploded inside a beast of nurgle

Or does getting eaten cancel that

[cyan echo]

i think it cancels

[woven wigeon]

Awww

[eternal quest]

6 is a waste of point tho there are other good options

[rapid cypress]

CC cancels boomies.

[woven wigeon]

That could've been a fun interaction

[signal turret]

Personally do +15% CD reduction on elite kill for those rare moments I smooth brain peril management lol

[vocal agate]

Thats... an interesting tactic

[tacit jungle]

ye this sounds like a fun penance don't it

[ornate hamlet]

evening siblings

[rapid cypress]

Extra 12% peril reduction go brr

[eternal quest]

id rather extra bb for charged sword oneshots on elites 🙂

[rapid cypress]

why give my teammmates cdr when I can spam my superior surge staff more? 😎

[woven wigeon]

Ye tbh

I grab the 6 warp charges feat

Mostly because that row isnt too exciting anyway

[visual adder]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2TIs1hMDV7U

[night marten]

not with Ascendant Blaze, the 6 charges are really nice. then use a purge staff to additionally benefit from using that feat

[woven wigeon]

Kinetic Flayer is alright with the right build though

[teal needle]

The random bb skill is great for keeping stacks up

[eternal quest]

need to test more for braking points with 2 extra charges 😄

[sullen tusk]

@woven wigeon It's part of my "dont worry about warp charge maintenance" build

[woven wigeon]

Does that work even if the mob would die from the melee attack?

I'm assuming so but just wondering

[eternal quest]

yep works on everything

[woven wigeon]

phew

[teal needle]

There's almost none, There's like 1 on difficulty 4+

[half river]

I don't believe that purge fire is soul blaze fire

[ornate hamlet]

recon lasgun procs pretty reliable too at cooldown...

[vocal agate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/786208719200583710/1044675705998409769/image.png

[sullen tusk]

It will kill poxwalkers eventually on Diff 4 with 6 stacks, however, by that point your teammates will have killed them with melee lol

[vocal agate]

Have got this saved, but i am not the original author

[sullen tusk]

Test it in the pyskanium

[woven wigeon]

Also, breakpoints aren't the be all when there's weapon stats that make damage more granular

[weary wasp]

Warp charges feel like a copium buff unless it helps with breakpoints

[half river]

Also is the soul blaze talent called kinetic overload or kinetic transfer. Can't pull up the steam guide rn

[woven wigeon]

And extra percentage always helps with like

Clearing a horde

[eternal quest]

thats a neat graph

[woven wigeon]

Also there are some melee breakpoints to care about

Like whether my knife headshot kills or doesnt kill

Or voidstrike headshot for that matter

[sullen tusk]

True, i was just going off of static damage like Soulblaze stacks and Brain Burst. Extra warp charges dont really do much there. The extra 12% peril resistance is a compelling argument however

[rapid cypress]

BB do kinda be feeling bad on damnation ngl

[woven wigeon]

Bb I think can still headpop gunners and snipers

And also all regular mobs if you're caught out somewhere

[devout axle]

15 mins until launch 🤞
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