psyker-class

[raw otter]

tbh with a team its ok

[summer wind]

just me?

[weary idol]

I still haven't been able to do cliffhanger because 2 seconds is such a short window that enemies will have different fallin animations and won't die together

[bleak sonnet]

there's a super easy method to get this, got it first attempt

[rapid cypress]

Worst part was just getting a group not to shoot it lol

[weary idol]

which is extremely annoying

[viscid matrix]

5 minutes of brainbursting isnt fun

[raw otter]

id advice chasm logistratum the bridge tbh

[weary idol]

been running chasm station with all its tiny bridges and still can't get it when actively trying

[raw otter]

someone kiting the horde in the bridge and you push with the ult frontally

[summer wind]

every time i do people kill the bridge enemies

[raw otter]

rip

[sacred forge]

you gonna like, share what it is?

[raw otter]

plague ogryn i felt had less hp than beast of nurgle

[summer wind]

yeah it just sucks to do

[hearty oak]

Wait wait wait, lemme try for the challenge!

[raw otter]

if its a beast of nurgle id suicided myself

[weary idol]

plague ogryn is so much easier than beast of nurgle

[viscid matrix]

the cheap way is with closing a door on it, but i never get one there

[summer wind]

i got a beast of nurgle to 25% hp with some buddies guarding me

but we gave up because we got bored

[weary idol]

would you rather have a boss that's both impossible to kite and reduces your maximum HP

or a boss that's easy to kite, and doesn't do that

[urban dove]

lol What about the Deamon hosts

lol

[raw otter]

yea

[viscid matrix]

the Assassination bosses count as well, so you can also do them

[bold maple]

I havent seen a single demon host

[bleak sonnet]

that's what i did, daemon host cant break ogryn shield and never changes aggro, took 5minutes

[bold maple]

since the day they popped up

[raw otter]

malleus monstronum with daemonhost brain expanded forever

the insanity

well impossible

[hearty oak]

💀

[urban dove]

the Deamons are nightmares if you dont have a Ogryn

[viscid matrix]

ive yet to see a daemonhost

[robust meteor]

demonhosts are scary

[hearty oak]

good

[raw otter]

they were in the lights out modifier only!
even tho people say they can appear in normal games but i doubt...

[hearty oak]

dont look for them

they dont look for you

[raw otter]

what if you have an ogryn with no shield tho kek

but yes an ogryn with shield helps af

[weary idol]

ogryn weapon variety is so bad I feel for them

[urban dove]

they have aura curruption, slows, Blink behind you, 4 hit KO, and they have a fucking Mori from DBD

[robust meteor]

u just have to burn it asap before it wipes you

[compact cargo]

If no shield call ur knife zealot or another dodge tank

[lost aurora]

anyone know when lights out is coming back anyhow i did 1 match of it then they all just went poof

[raw otter]

tbh i kinda think they are going to nerf daemonhost
even tho i agree being him so strong

[earnest junco]

I lost my prison clothes did anyone same?
I really love that clothes ,Can I get it back?

[compact cargo]

They come back occasionally on modifier reset

[raw otter]

or totally take an alternative route and avoid also
but yea right

its a dps boss thing

if teammate waste time then will take down 2 people 100%

[bleak sonnet]

what?

daemon host cannot break ogryn shield...

how is he OP

[hearty oak]

they shouldnt. theres no need

[raw otter]

he can cause it gives you also chaos corruption a lot

[lost aurora]

should just remove endless horde from play atm till they fix the dam thing on heresy and just give us others

[raw otter]

its just very aggressive

[bleak sonnet]

it caps at a certain point

[raw otter]

going to be nerfed prob

[robust meteor]

whats your favorite psyker carry build for malice? i'm the last one alive often times in pugs

[raw otter]

kek
i also hope they wont
but people complains rip

[summer wind]

as much as this sucks, it has deflector so it's ok

[bleak sonnet]

deflector overrated

run dagger

[marble drift]

I lost my chestpiece prison garb, but that's it

[summer wind]

it is way too cool and useful to ever give up

[hearty oak]

The Daemonhost when the team goes around:

[robust meteor]

been liking combat axe recently

[bleak sonnet]

i rolled it, used it once, and went back to my dagger

[summer wind]

personal preference

dagger is cool too, i just love walking up to gun enemies and ulting

[raw otter]

on weapons i always just look the stat bars
then later when crafting system is full open i can change the traits and mini traits

[summer wind]

it's really funny

[summer wind]

it'll be a few days until then so i go for what's good now

[urban dove]

when your a fire staff user like me being able to block to bullets to get close to gunners is nice

deflector is my baby

[raw otter]

probably cause a bug

still didnt find deflector ever rip

[wraith tundra]

Do the stat bars change for the same weapon type? I figured that would remain the same.

[raw otter]

they do

[robust meteor]

there's a range they can rng

[wraith tundra]

Interesting

[raw otter]

and upgrades dont increase bar stats
at least for now

white weapons could potentially have better stat rolls apparently

than blues

for what ive seen at least

[earnest junco]

that it realy wried

[hearty oak]

hmm. Id prefer the carapace bonus to be maniacs

[compact gale]

alright guys what the shit are we doing about these penances

[raw otter]

thats why imo there will be another rarity after orange 100%?
the one with maxed stat rolls i guess

dunno

[summer wind]

protest

[compact gale]

That’s what I’m saying

[meager eagle]

crying

[compact cargo]

do them before they get patched

[summer wind]

clout

[compact gale]

If i could lmfao

[summer wind]

screenshot it for extra clout

[compact cargo]

yes

[warm meteor]

tried the flamethrower staff and was a bit disappointed

[compact gale]

Literally

[raw otter]

i mean if they get patched probably they are going to be easier prob

[compact gale]

It’s a build heavy staff

[raw otter]

and unfair for us

[compact cargo]

Get premade of psykers

[summer wind]

that's common, give it another go with the level 30 soulflame ability and warp charge focus

not for everyone though

[hearty oak]

Everyones reaction was that

[compact cargo]

It's farshark

[warm meteor]

yeah im at level 15 so i dont got the cool soul burn skills yet

[raw otter]

imagine if malleus monstronum get reworked to an ez challenge
then the people that did the original challenge

[compact gale]

I’ve been thinking about it but hedges “get frienz” statement has me spiteful and bitter

[lone fractal]

flame staff is my favorite.

[compact gale]

Like a son to his father

[compact cargo]

They nerfed ogryn bull rush snd the penance dependingnon the old 100m doesn't work

[raw otter]

rip

[compact gale]

F

[warm meteor]

lightning is my fave so far, with void as a close second

[hearty oak]

All they need to do is make soulblaze deal more damage and it probably be worth using in some instances

[raw otter]

also in vt2 some impossible challenge

[ornate hamlet]

Cliffhanger is just plain stupid

[summer wind]

the strength comes from the duration and how it applies basically to everyone on the map if you build for it

[earnest junco]

you can upgrades your weapons on 500 power. but the stats its dones't increase... that mean you need buy the best stats weapon on store. not upgrades. right?

[summer wind]

yeah it sucks

[compact gale]

Well on oubliete on the bridge the lighting is terrible, it’s brighter than the whitest man on the earths ass cheeks

[raw otter]

soulblaze kinda doesnt kill nothing tbh
then i dont know with proper builds

[ornate hamlet]

I got 16/20

[flat pawn]

what's best on a voidstrike staff

[compact gale]

I feel like it’s a peak into the fucking warp it’s so bright

[compact cargo]

It's dmaage is real goof with how exponential it is, what they need to do is buff the 2 non lvl 30 fears that apply it and fix purge staff soulblaze stacks

[raw otter]

4/5 on my pick 'n mix

[lone fractal]

[bleak sonnet]

the penances arent hard, just get a good group together and set em up

[raw otter]

deeeeeeed me too

about pick and mix

just for 1

[compact gale]

Fuck friends.

[hearty oak]

Its a chore though. meanwhile the zealot can just cause loads of fire damage more quickly and readily

[summer wind]

but not for the ENTIRE mission constantly

that's where the value of psyker is, tbh

no drain on resources

[compact gale]

Not literally but it’d be nice to do penances without disrupting the gameplay loop

[raw otter]

can be the same type of elite and special at least i guess or wut

[warm meteor]

soulblaze can scale to like pretty high damage at max stacks, and with all your skills you can have a 14 percent chance to apply 4 stacks to the nearest elite every time you kill with your staff. but without the soulblaze skills it certianly feels weak

[summer wind]

it can be 5 gunners

[raw otter]

ah ok

[warm meteor]

however no staff has so many skills that buff it

[raw otter]

was already with the

[bleak sonnet]

you guys dont know the secret build.

lacerate dagger applies on your shout. instableed entire horde

[viscid matrix]

do gunners count? i thought only the mini gun guys are elites

[lone fractal]

ima go to bed. 3 hours of fucking nothing

[hearty oak]

14% isnt it though. Can easily do the same with a good auto gun or voidstrike staff

[viscid matrix]

does it actually do that?

[compact gale]

Lmao earlier i got 2 specials and 1 elite with the perils explosion and i literally almost game ended myself when it didn’t count

[raw otter]

scab gunners
dreg gunners

[bleak sonnet]

yea

[compact cargo]

Buff DoT talents outside of the lvl 30 one, make purge staff actually apply soulblaze properly, done.

[bleak sonnet]

its what i run

[summer wind]

everything you can ping is an elite

[mild lotus]

or a specialist

[viscid matrix]

ahh so they guys with a lmg not the normal gunmen

[hearty oak]

AT MAX, it does 31 damage a tick with 6 charges

thats a pain to keep up

[compact gale]

I wish it was just specials or elites

[raw otter]

or a special

[compact gale]

1 or the other

[bleak sonnet]

pick n mix is any 5 specials or elites

[summer wind]

yeah

[bleak sonnet]

just kill 5 of anything special or elite

[summer wind]

ping it and it works on it

[compact gale]

You have to ping?

[raw otter]

tell that to veteran stealing rippp

veteran mains

[bleak sonnet]

i did

[warm meteor]

it is when you are fighting poxwalkers! and remember every kill your friends get is a 4 percent chance to get one. it cements the staff as the best horde clearer overall. but the void strike kills hordes almost as fast and has superb range so im with you that its not the best

[raw otter]

hacker

[compact gale]

Jealousy.

Bitterness and anger

[bold maple]

im sorry for what you went through

[compact gale]

Rage

[autumn marten]

No, you can only ping elites, so if the ping works on it, it counts for the acheivo

[warm meteor]

the lightning staff feels silly sometimes

[mild lotus]

Just did some testing in the psykhanium

[compact gale]

Oh ok gotcha

[bold maple]

fatshark gonna make those penance easier on release anyway

[warm meteor]

watching several ogryns get stun locked is funny

[raw otter]

scamming us

[compact gale]

Fingers crossed

[bleak sonnet]

wasnt that bad, i actually got malleous on my first attempt that day

and pick n mix in a random game

lol

[wintry nacelle]

I've been closing it for a week, I can't do it

[mild lotus]

dreg gunners are flak armoured but not on the head, so the bonus against flak armours won't work on headshots

[compact gale]

It would be terrible if this conversation is the reason they make them easier

[autumn marten]

I only learned yesterday that dogs have a shit ton of hp, they just take 2x dmg from melee

[mild lotus]

helmet dregs are unarmoured except on the head which is flak armoured

[compact gale]

but it’s definitely just generalized outrage that’s gonna do it

[compact gale]

That seems like a odd gimmick for no reason

[mild lotus]

melee scabs are flak armoured except on the head which is unarmoured

[warm meteor]

fascinating! i wonder if any other enemies have melee and ranged dps modifiers like that

[autumn marten]

its so they're actually a threat running up to you, but you, but teammates can save you easy

its meant to punish loners

[earnest junco]

i do cliffganger by myself.
on level 3 map HAB DREYKO, Transit Hub HL-16-11, "Chasm Terminus"

[brazen briar]

repair mission, the cryo one, at the end on the evac platform, there are catwalks going around pillars overlooking the ledge, have ur team stack there and hold the horde while you go around the pillar and knock them off

[bold maple]

mutants take x3 dmg from melee

[mild lotus]

I just side dodge them

[autumn marten]

WHAT????

[mild lotus]

works 9/10 times

[bold maple]

yes

[autumn marten]

hold on I have a clip for that

o

[compact gale]

oh wow

[raw otter]

dogs tbh takes a lot even with ranged

[autumn marten]

"Parry this you fucking casual"

[raw otter]

21:9

[warm meteor]

i know the lightning staff is weird that it has damage multipliers vs metal wearing enemies, which like i understand why they do that but im pretty sure lightning is attracted to metal rather then hotter when it strikes? or maybe metal can make the burns worse im not an expert on electricity

[compact gale]

Lol

[hearty oak]

never a dull moment with dogs

[compact gale]

The lighting staff is aimbot

It’s too useful

[autumn marten]

is that bad? I like my ultrawide

[raw otter]

its not bad

[ancient plover]

hey is there an easier way to do the penances? or are we just stuck at having the hardest and most sabotaging ones?

[compact gale]

there’s a enemy through a floor above you? fuck em

[ancient plover]

[warm meteor]

has anyone used the force sword with the ability to block bullets and match it with the "gain peril on block"

[raw otter]

yes

its op apparently

[ornate hamlet]

yes its very nice

[compact gale]

Nope that’s the current reality of things

[warm meteor]

thats good

[ornate hamlet]

high survivability, esp. since you can block + revive

[autumn marten]

you can revive while blocking??

[eager gorge]

I wish I found the Psyker gameplay loop enjoyable. I've got Psyker to 30 and Veteran to 30, and due to the way both classes function I'd unfortunately pick Veteran every time. :/

[tiny marsh]

Is thr force staff good?

[compact gale]

I learned that 3 psykers and 1 ogryn make malice look like a walk in the park

[warm meteor]

heres hoping one of the psyker variants will be a biomancy caster!

[tiny marsh]

The flame staff crashes ne

[raw otter]

cliff can be done in chasm logistratum at the begin in some bridge if someone kite the horde in the bridge then you ult frontally that bridge

[warm meteor]

that way we get a melee variant

[ornate hamlet]

yes!

[autumn marten]

which one

[tiny marsh]

Big ol ball

[bold maple]

astolfo pfp? sus

[tiny marsh]

In the video

[autumn marten]

also this changes everyone

[raw otter]

malleus monstronum can be done in chasm logistratum still as in has 2 boss spawn points near at the begin, even 3 i think

[compact gale]

I’d like a staff focused or a summoning variant

[tiny marsh]

A beam staff

[jade sundial]

Sorry to ask but what does Biomancy entails, it`s more melee focused?

[tiny marsh]

O.o

[warm meteor]

the game actually makes you block automatically while reviving peeps, was in vermintide 2 as well

[compact gale]

That would be interesting gameplay wise

I’d like to see how it would work

[summer wind]

yeah i do it

it's so good for revives on 4/5

[autumn marten]

whaaaaat, so I shouldnt revive with my staff out??

[summer wind]

makes you the best revive class

[weary wasp]

Psyker summoning a demon is a recipe for an execution on sight kekw

[raw otter]

recently seen a psyker blocking really an amount of insane horde while ressing
was crazy

tought was about to get stunned but no
was still be able to block

[tiny marsh]

I like the idea of a staff that does a aoe around you

[warm meteor]

biomancy as a psyker discipline makes super tough beatstick psykers. so were talking a psyker with the ability to toughen their flesh, gain super strength and even heal

[tiny marsh]

To basically get you out of sticky situations

[ancient plover]

is it just me or is the flame staff the best if not second best after voidstrike? idk why but I feel like lightning staff is just too low dps

[warm meteor]

they can also do other flesh related thing, i think they can stop peoples hearts

[tiny marsh]

Kinda would help this

[compact gale]

I have quell 3.5% on weak spot and the ranged block + 0 stam taken on hit so I leave out the perk that converts used stam into peril and just go for another one

[jade sundial]

Now i also share your hopes for a biomancy Variant

[ancient plover]

the stun is great and all but voidstrike just oneshots a whole row of enemies rather than stun them

[tiny marsh]

For level 20 what's the best perk?

I'm using quell movement speed

[ancient plover]

walking and quelling imo

[mild lotus]

typical psyker trick to blow off you left testicle when you're talking shit about them

[compact gale]

It’s good paired with zealot

[raw otter]

voidstrike can kill and also stun

[compact gale]

You can kill 50 or so mobs with one stun + fully charged voidstrike

[mild lotus]

dmg reduction from ranged based on warp charges

[warm meteor]

on the table top blood angels had a librarian who already was super tough and strong. with biomancy he could become immune to bolter fire haha

[mild lotus]

hands down

[tiny marsh]

Hmm baller imma take that

[compact gale]

I got a penance like that on accident

[tiny marsh]

I got the evasion penace level 3

Because im dodgy boi

[warm meteor]

i got the "kill a pouncing dog with brain burst" on accident

[tiny marsh]

Same

[mild lotus]

I mean... That's everyone

[tiny marsh]

XD

[mild lotus]

you can't set this up really

the shit goes too fast

[ancient plover]

i really hope they change the penances

[tiny marsh]

Whats a good way to get the pushing one

[ancient plover]

[mild lotus]

chasm logistratum

[ancient plover]

why do other classes have ez mode and we psykers get slapped on the butt

[mild lotus]

the beginning bridge

[tiny marsh]

I want helmet so badly

[mild lotus]

on the left there's a smaller brdgewithout railing

[warm meteor]

also why the hell does the "brain burst only vs a monster" exist? its only possible with supreme luck in randoms or with a team

[ancient plover]

@tiny marsh true

[mild lotus]

stack a horde on it and ult

gg ez

[bold maple]

nah monster one is impossible with randoms

[tiny marsh]

Hmm fair

I shall try that

And yee

[mild lotus]

or if you're the last one alive

[tiny marsh]

U need a team

[bold maple]

someone's going to accidentally dmg the monster

[ancient plover]

and the one that says kill a monstrosity alone yea sure

[celest hedge]

if you're able to do the solo a monster with randoms without all of your randoms being dead, you might have other problems

[warm meteor]

nah just let them all die somehow

then run the level solo

ez

[tiny marsh]

Or ask them

[ancient plover]

how am I ever going to complete that when theres no singleplayer and you cant play without bots , while running soloqueue

[bold maple]

bruh it's heresy

[tiny marsh]

Hey when monster spawns run away I need this

[bold maple]

you cant solo heresy

[mild lotus]

private lobbies are coming soon

[warm meteor]

how dare you! social interaction in my team based video game?!?

[tiny marsh]

Yay

[ancient plover]

yea but private lobbies = bots

bots just shoot at monster

[tiny marsh]

I always type in chat to meme around

[warm meteor]

the zealot tries

[mild lotus]

shoot bots

[tiny marsh]

I say my brain juices alot

[mild lotus]

they'll behave

[ancient plover]

[tiny marsh]

Or when I blow up on accident "srry had a migraine"

[hasty ether]

Woooo

[warm meteor]

i wanna try the zealots crit build

[compact cargo]

they don't count

[warm meteor]

levelling takes awhile tho

[ancient plover]

@hasty ether how

[hasty ether]

luck grit and hours of determination

[mild lotus]

this one is pretty dumb too

[ancient plover]

which level

and malice or heresy?

[warm meteor]

yeah intentionally downing your self feels like it promotes bad plays

[hasty ether]

logistratum heresy hoards

[bold maple]

hoards

[hasty ether]

it really does

[warm meteor]

so far ive only self exploded using the lightning staff

[ancient plover]

imagine if we killed an elite with the explosion

it made us self revive

[warm meteor]

that feels very strong

[ancient plover]

[hasty ether]

had to be hyper aggressive and mostly jumped in solo over and over trying to get the first few mobs before the bots catched up

[toxic forge]

Does the self explosion work on malice or does it have to be heresy

[mild lotus]

there's usually no reviving from a brain explosion

[warm meteor]

could be a capstone ability

[ancient plover]

I mean it cant even one shot most elites on heresy

so it's still very risky

@hasty ether solo queue?

[weary idol]

600 damage when heresy maulers have 1500 hp xd

doesn't even do half

[night marten]

just crafted, kinda happy with it though blessings could be better

[bold maple]

just pray they get crafting in on release so you can reroll blessing

into blazing spirit

then it's goated

[night marten]

oh yea

[hasty ether]

que up and start before anyone else joins you

if someone does leave and try again

[sacred forge]

run and gun on a staff?

[sharp obsidian]

Toughness or HP for curios on Psyker?

[night marten]

already have a staff with blazing spirit just sitting around so I can cannibalize it later

[mild lotus]

toughness

[hasty ether]

Toughness

[mild lotus]

psyker's feats refill toughness

so increasing it is better

[weary idol]

toughness is always better unless you're an ogryn

[autumn marten]

honestly my favorite chest piece so far

[weary idol]

and even then

[toxic forge]

does going out with a bang work on Malice

[mild lotus]

yes

[autumn marten]

yeah

[primal blade]

Anybody had a feel for actually really good traits on the voidstrike ?

[weary idol]

still doesn't one shot any elite or specials on that difficulty

except snipers I guess

[hasty ether]

agreed

[toxic forge]

Yeah Im just wondering if it functions

[hasty ether]

it does

I think heresy is easier though. more elites and larger health pool so teammates don't one shot them

[autumn marten]

But the warp battery one has to be heresy? Someone told me it was a bug, and I definitely had max stacks for like 8 min

[signal spoke]

can a purgatus staff even crit?

[compact cargo]

hp

[signal spoke]

anyone know this?

[brazen briar]

bttery is heresy

[hasty ether]

yes it has to be on heresy. but honestly it wasn't to hard. got it on 2nd attempt 1st was off by 30 sec >.<

[brazen briar]

and suicide one is def easier on heresy

[ancient plover]

@hasty ether which staff did you use to get peril fast?

[bleak sonnet]

it can

[signal spoke]

I dont see any indicator in meat grinder

[viscid matrix]

toughness only gets you to 150 and hp only gets you to 230

[hasty ether]

force sword to build. just swap back and forth activating it to around 60-80. then lighting staff to weaken and overload

[lime hemlock]

Fuckin' nerds.
Sincerely,

• #veteran-class

[hasty ether]

actually was getting myself to 100% and then letting it tick down depending on how much i needed to weaken them

[odd flax]

booooo, get out of here!!

[autumn marten]

imagine needing ammo

[odd flax]

anyone wanna squad up to try for the cliffhanger achievement? I'm suffering and wanna get it out of the way

[hasty ether]

and grenades

[lime hemlock]

Imagine being insane.

[bold maple]

being insane is good for your health in this universe

[lime hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[jade sundial]

I was hoping they perhaps would change some of the Penances for launch day patch but i`m not so sure anymore

[autumn marten]

Shovel licker

[jade sundial]

Been suffering to get the Going out with a bang for a good while

[lime hemlock]

You have fun getting your brains taken by warp entities, I'll be fine with me shovel.

[manic halo]

I hope their will be some character changes on release

[compact cargo]

You can have 200 hp stacking hp, why woulf you pick toughness when chip damage is a thing and range still clears your entire toughness on hit die to interrupt

[ancient plover]

its so hard

not do die before exploding

for the challenge

[odd flax]

I hope so too, but I doubt it

[hasty ether]

they'll probably do some tweaking. hopefully we get a buff

[jade sundial]

They said its not off the table, Gender and Personality but i dont see arriving too soon

[brazen briar]

the key to most of the penances is to not try

[abstract scaffold]

the kill 3 elites with ur overload on herasy or over?

[autumn marten]

force sword spam is the way, and if you do the followup attack, you'll build charge while surviving a little better

[ancient plover]

ye

but I dont wanna kill them

thats the prob

[brazen briar]

i've gotten both the 5 elite with bb, the explosion one and the battery by just playing on heresy

[ancient plover]

and the explosion alone doesnt kill it

like I have no clue how to do it

[jade sundial]

Sorry to Ask, but how do you Force sword Spam? Heard about it but i can`t seem to remember how to do it

[abstract scaffold]

easy. 1 BB on 3 ragers or 3 maulers, then overload will kill them

[odd flax]

yeah how much damage does the explosion do, do you just need to blow up next to a few maulers/ragers?

[ancient plover]

so I have to restart till I get 3 ragers or maulers?

[autumn marten]

its the special weapon attack button, builds a lot of peril

[weary idol]

600

[abstract scaffold]

i got it by accident on my psyker spamming surge staff and learning then about the insta boom reaching 100% peril bug on it xD

[weary idol]

maulers and ragers have roughly double that

(on malice)

[odd flax]

rough

[brazen briar]

or just wait for your group to start wipeing on a horde filled with elites, and blow yourself up, it clears the horde AND might get you the achiev

[wispy tangle]

same, but 4/5 on the bb penance, just gotta keep fishing. monstronum malleus looks pretty easy to do in a pug on t5 difficulty as well with the constant monster spawns

[weary idol]

really though I highly recommend not doing it in public matchmaking

[brazen briar]

id do it on t4 simply since they have less hp

[weary idol]

because of the obvious design issues of a challenge that unironically asks you to suicide

just get a group of people, not necessarily friends but people who are willing to coordinate it

[wispy tangle]

way less monster spawns unfortunately, and your teammates are a lot less preoccupied with being dead or trying to not be dead

[brazen briar]

its a question of when, nobody will fault you for doing it when you're already wiping, plus u can jsut say i was desperatly trying to get them off of you

[ancient plover]

I hope the modding community gives us hp bars

[weary idol]

i hope the modding community gives us actual statistics

[compact cargo]

No mod support gonna be hard

[weary idol]

and in game explanations of what debuffs and effects do

[brazen briar]

i mean, if you're doing it without a group in either case, you're just setting yourself up for failure

[weary idol]

I sure as shit wouldn't know soulblaze stacks exponentially just from reading it

and even then I'd assume it's the same thing as on the purgatus staff but it's not so

[hearty oak]

No mod support

[brazen briar]

and honestly the easiest way to do it is most likely to get an ogryn to aggro a deamon host and just take ur time blasting it while he shields everything

[wispy tangle]

i think it's doable by just running t5 missions over time and will pop on its own much like the rest do on t4 without too much effort

the monster spam on t5 is pretty nuts sometimes

[abstract scaffold]

i feel they should change the last talent to that if an enemy dies with soulblaze on it, it has a 10% chance of giving warp charge. atm with it only proccing if the enemy dies from the dot, making it useless above malice -_-

[brazen briar]

right, getting it to pop isin't really the issue, its having ur teammates not kill uit*

[autumn marten]

Another shop reroll with no staff.... I wont count the white trauma staff.

[flat pawn]

no one has favorite stuff they like on their voidstrike staff?

[compact cargo]

Just buff all 3 DoT talents

[ancient plover]

@abstract scaffold no

you can just play with the flame staff

and use it as extra ways to get charges

[hearty oak]

What would be best on force sword. Slaughterer or peril scaling?

[mild lotus]

slaughterer imo

[abstract scaffold]

ur not understanding it m8. it will ONLY proc if the DOT kills the target. if ur flamethrowers direct dmg kills it? no proc. someone kills it with any other weapon? no proc

[wispy tangle]

tbh i think they should really drop the damage requirement from 100% down a bit, since i assume currently anything touching the monster for even 1 damage ruins the penance, which seems a bit excessive

[mild lotus]

peril goes down by itself while slaughterer can be maintained indefinitely

[ancient plover]

@abstract scaffold you know how often stuff dies from flamethrower dot

[abstract scaffold]

i really want a dot build for soulblaze/flamer to work, but atm its only useful for the stagger

[abstract scaffold]

very rarely in herasy/damnation

[brazen briar]

i mean like i said, cheesy way to do it is just to have an ogryn tank a deamonhost whil ur leisurly take ur time blasting it

[autumn marten]

if they did that, all it would take to get back to max stacks would be to wipe the horde you you wrath, with proper feat combo

[hearty oak]

My thoughts. Cause I dont think i want to let this go

[bleak sonnet]

i play damnation with flame staff, stuff does die a lot

[mild lotus]

your slaughterer is weak

[dapper bay]

Dueling Sword >>> Force Sword

[mild lotus]

idk if'll get to increase blessing'sp ower in the future

[bleak sonnet]

fr

[dapper bay]

esp the Mk V one that stabs

[late grove]

Asking for a friend, what qualifies as an elite enemy for the "Going out with a bang" penance?

[dapper bay]

pierces right through specials while clearing hordes

[mild lotus]

anyway, this is mine

[weary idol]

i'm more partial to MK IV

[unkempt juniper]

real question: which duelling sword

[weary idol]

has the best anti-armor combo

[autumn marten]

anything that can be pinged

[hearty oak]

Carpel tunnel sword*

[broken plinth]

So what exactly does the Warp Resistence on the Sword do?

[mild lotus]

anything you can highlight with pings

[abstract scaffold]

then i must be playing with very active people killing hordes, coz i get very few procs from it. sometimes i cant even get a full charge running from burning a whole horde xD

[wispy tangle]

good tip, thanks, i could try asking one nicely if i get a team that are nice and friendly, and we spot the daemonhost spawn ahead of time

[weary idol]

heavy-heavy-light-special-light

[unkempt juniper]

charge and pu8sh cost less peril

[mild lotus]

it reduces peril gain from the special move

[tiny sonnet]

man cliffhanger is horrible to even try and get, i've been at it for an hour

[late grove]

Is there any good way to do that?

[abstract scaffold]

not 100% true. specials dont count as elite enemies, and can be tagged

[dapper bay]

Hot take: you have to choose between either a Psyker Sword or a Psyker Staff, because using both means they'll compete with each other for Peril

[mild lotus]

the penance counts both as valid

[abstract scaffold]

o_O

[hearty oak]

Its the best i got. Not like i will get another chance

[abstract scaffold]

well, thats good to know. i got mine by accident with ragers, but thats useful for others

[mild lotus]

hold up

[hasty ether]

premade group standing on narrow bridge at the beginning of logistratum with hoards. just hide around the corner and wait for a hoard to spawn then pop out and push them off bridge

[unkempt juniper]

from what i understand, elites spawn on the map. stuff like maulers, gunners, shotgunners, ogryns. specialists are things that spawn intermittently with a spawn cue, like trappers, dogs, flamers, mutants, bombers etc

[mild lotus]

just checked and I happened to have mistook it for something else

[late grove]

What enemies are best to do for that penance?

[mild lotus]

only elites count

[hasty ether]

helps too if you get at least 50 peril as it makes your push stronger

[mild lotus]

my bad

[tiny sonnet]

Thanks for the advice, lets hope I can get it soon

[abstract scaffold]

i personally prefer defelctor for cover movement. got one with 15% block efficency on top of the 10% buildt in

[unkempt juniper]

ragers. they like to get close to you so they take the most dmg

[bleak sonnet]

deflector is for bads, dueling sword is for chads

[mild lotus]

keep it in your inventory even if you find better, we may be able to combine and upgrade blessings later on

[unkempt juniper]

and maulers are too tanky on malice to 1hko with the warp explosion

[dapper bay]

Some guy said the penance is bugged and he got it after blowing himself up twice in one match, taking out 2 guys at first and then 1 guy at his second... er... blow up

[abstract scaffold]

whatever u can gather easily and bring low. i found ragers/maulers easy to manage as u can BB them each once to bring them low, and then boom them with overload

[compact cargo]

ragers in Malice are the best option

[hearty oak]

Ye. Inb4 legendary spawns in the shop

[unkempt juniper]

i got it on my 3rd attempt at exploding, i got 2 at a time on the first, 1 on the second and none on the third. still got the achievement and i have no idea how

[mild lotus]

brb, blowing myself up real quick

[dapper bay]

recon lasgun mk viid + dueling sword Psyker that pretends they're not a Psyker but a regular ol' Guardsman

[hasty ether]

I too have done that but did not get the achievement. might be a rare bug

[dapper bay]

except when they need to blow up some heads

[unkempt juniper]

thats me

[bleak sonnet]

lasgun with headpop talent is funny

shoot a guy and his head pops

[dapper bay]

i swear to the Emperor, the Recon Lasguns are way too fking good to ever consider using a Staff

[mild lotus]

that's vet's job

[dapper bay]

it fires at like idk

1200 RPM

[abstract scaffold]

surge/voidstrike says hello

[dapper bay]

the VIId one at least

[mild lotus]

recon lasguns are a no brainer

it's good always

[abstract scaffold]

so, is it just me that feel the trauma staff is borderline useless vs the other 3 staffs??

[mild lotus]

staves are more specialised

[dapper bay]

hold LMB and everything you look at dies in two seconds at most

[unkempt juniper]

recon VId is the best option imo

[mild lotus]

but in high difficulty the lack of dmg may hurt you

[weary idol]

MG XIII lasgun one shots most specials on heresy/damnation though

(provided you headshot them)

[dapper bay]

I heard Staves are more useful at higher diffs, but I never managed to test it because I'd rather do my L4D2 very hard on realistic mode achievement again than do Malice with randoms

[unkempt juniper]

yeah but the fire rate procs brain pop with the feat, and with the other feat that makes brain pop debuff enemies its p decent

[mild lotus]

malice is diff 3

and is pretty easy

you sure you meant that one?

[bleak sonnet]

flame staff tier 5 god tier

[dapper bay]

i had very bad luck with random teammates

VERY

[mild lotus]

that bad...

I grieve for you sibling

[jaunty umbra]

I mean

you can basically solo malice

[dapper bay]

psyker that has to rescue 3 teammates after they die constantly

yea

[jaunty umbra]

it aint that hard

[compact cargo]

run deflection it helps

[dapper bay]

and then we die because an Ogryn yeets me to an out of bounds area

[zenith ridge]

Personally take the Surge staff almost always on my Psyker. Stun locking rows of ranged enemies or dogs/trappers/mutants is very nice.

[raw otter]

random can be even low level, bad gear even in diff 3

[compact cargo]

specially with a deflector force sword

[mild lotus]

it bugs me that diff 3 is that easy that diff 1 and 2 basically are redundant at this point

they practically don't exist and serve almost no purpose

[jaunty umbra]

3 to 4 is the real jump

[mild lotus]

yes

[bleak sonnet]

this game is just super easy in general, super forgiving

even when u die

[compact cargo]

U don't need gear or lvls for Malice, just be smart, not a thing for some teamstes sadly

[bleak sonnet]

spawn 5 metres away

[dapper bay]

I'll start doing higher diffs on release

[stable lark]

do we have any chance for buffs to psyker? his damage output seems too low on 4-5 difficulties

[raw otter]

and acutally cooldown very short

[dapper bay]

Can't expect to suddenly find friends to group up with so it's just a matter of getting gud eventually

[bleak sonnet]

yeah 20 sec

[unkempt locust]

HERESY!!!

[raw otter]

in vt2 was more long the timer iirc

[mild lotus]

I bet we'll get some good buffs and even reworks to its feats

[bleak sonnet]

even damnation is a joke with a competent team

most maps

disruption on damnation is a whole nother story though

[mild lotus]

that map is beautiful but also a pain to play

you can't see shit

[bleak sonnet]

the mid objective man

its so crazy

[dapper bay]

then again, i've seen streamers play on T4 with a full stack and playing horribly together so it's certainly possible

[mild lotus]

no wonder psykers go blind, you can't see a thing anyway

[dapper bay]

like splitting up at every possible occasion lmao

[bleak sonnet]

streamer =/= good or competent

[mild lotus]

streamers are entertainers

[dapper bay]

i mean, actually beating levels on T4

[compact cargo]

just ai director luck

[dapper bay]

somehow

[bleak sonnet]

oh

i gotcha

[mild lotus]

sometimes, their entertainment is providing good plays

[bleak sonnet]

you really dont need a brain for this game

it feels super dumbed down

[dapper bay]

keep playing T5 until you eventually get lucky and win

300 IQ strat

[bleak sonnet]

you can meet randoms here and lfg tier 5

no issue

it should be harder

[mild lotus]

how so?

[bleak sonnet]

so many healing items, if you die you spawn super close

[autumn marten]

I just die a little inside every time I see a lvl 4 in a malice/endless horde lobby

[mild lotus]

vermintide had that too afaik

[bleak sonnet]

modded vermintide was pretty hard

[mild lotus]

key word being modded here

[bleak sonnet]

no way to know if similar still will exist

for this

[dapper bay]

keep saying that and they'll add T6 where instead of scabs or dregs it spawns chaos space marines as regular mobs

Horus Difficulty

[autumn marten]

yall are just cracked, I consistently got my shit wrecked on higher difficutlies

[bleak sonnet]

i am not cracked

[compact cargo]

300% was awesome, specially when you twitched with the waiting drunk friends

[mild lotus]

diff 3 is the 'normal' diff

diff 4, you're taking off the training wheels

haven't tried diff 5 yet

[ancient plover]

whoever designed those psyker penances

should be slapped

[bleak sonnet]

diff 4 is the hardest rn, because it's always endless horde

diff 5 no endless horde is easier imo

[dapper bay]

mfw lvl 30 and can't do the Cliffhanger penance

[autumn marten]

yeah, I just need to find my gear set

[mild lotus]

they're on the list to be sacrificed to the golden throne, rest easy

[autumn marten]

rn im struggling with rolls

[dapper bay]

hordes never spawn when we're near ledges lol

[unkempt juniper]

i've been having fun using the autopistol with the brain pop on hit feat

[bleak sonnet]

ez penances

get good

[unkempt juniper]

better hordeclear than the recon lasgun

[dapper bay]

Imperium's Finest

[mild lotus]

the autopistol is a hidden good weapon

[autumn marten]

I swear if you send that one more time ima find your lobbies and grief em. Im so jealous

[mild lotus]

but not better than the recon

[dapper bay]

broke: doing all the hard penances for good cosmetics

[mild lotus]

the recon has too many shots in a mag to be worse than the autopistol

[dapper bay]

woke: waiting for release so you can just buy good cosmetics

[autumn marten]

xD

[mild lotus]

ascended: my psyker is already perfect as is

[unkempt juniper]

single target dmg wise? no. But the bullet penetration and extra suppression is noticeable and very nice

[bleak sonnet]

that's letting fatshark win.

that's why they made the penances hard

so you feed them cash

[dapper bay]

i just want that cool backpack from the Imperial Edition, sibling

that + prison rags = ascended

[mild lotus]

Just buy the imperial edition, sibling

[dapper bay]

Primaris Psyker - wears rags and a backpack

[mild lotus]

unless you're a seditionist...

[compact cargo]

Just put on prisioner robes to trigger people

[dapper bay]

so wills the Beneficent Emperor

[compact cargo]

"get out low lvl"

lvl 30

[bleak sonnet]

prison rags, tier 3 hat

based

[dapper bay]

i would, but my chestpiece rags just disappeared from my inventory

[raw breach]

as if i'm not going to spend money for cosmetics to support the company so they can make more content

[dapper bay]

still have the pants

[summer wind]

this is so funny to me

[mild lotus]

the prison rags are really ugly

unwearable in any case except full low tier reject

[dapper bay]

hey mine are green

it's a calming color

ragers stop being ragers when they stare at me long enough

[mild lotus]

also the colour of green skins

I knew you were a seditionist

[dapper bay]

[mild lotus]

next thing you know, there's an autel to Gork and Mork in your basement

[bold maple]

lmao that hood

[dapper bay]

i admit, i may have been a bit too outspoken about the quality of our nutrition paste

BUT!

BUT!

the Ogryn agreed with me, once

[summer wind]

i look 4 years old lmao

[wintry nacelle]

lmao wtf

[summer wind]

my psyker next to anybody aside from the smallest height looks like a teenager, it's so stupid

[mild lotus]

I wouldn't turn toward an ogryn to defend myself from imperial law personally

[summer wind]

the shortest height really does not vibe with psyker armor

wish i could change it lol

[mild lotus]

you can

[summer wind]

you can???

[bleak sonnet]

roll a new character

[dapper bay]

it later turned out he was just hoping i'd give him my rations before they ship me off to prison

[bleak sonnet]

bud

[mild lotus]

put your monitor sideways

[summer wind]

oh my god

i deal with short problems irl and now i have to ingame

[dapper bay]

make the tallest psyker possible

and the shortest zealot possible

[summer wind]

i would

[jade sundial]

I wished to belive you could be wrong, but with the coming launch i`m not so hopeful anymore

[bleak sonnet]

dripped out

free of charge

[dapper bay]

we need more robes

instead of armor pieces

[mild lotus]

last tier psyker armor reminds me of WOW armors

[bleak sonnet]

reminds me of

power armor from

fallotu

[autumn marten]

Yeesssssssss

[bold maple]

give me a trench coat already

[mild lotus]

fallotu

[dapper bay]

toddu

[autumn marten]

YEEEESssssss

[mild lotus]

exterminatusu on his housu

[dapper bay]

just wait for that Veteran Commissar subclass

[ancient plover]

me trying the penances

https://i.imgur.com/hKO1cNa.png

[bleak sonnet]

execute your downed teammate for being a heretic

[weary idol]

I hope release has better headgears

[summer wind]

hot take

this looks like ass

[dapper bay]

if they manage to die on T1 or T2 then executing them is a mercy

[autumn marten]

I really dont know if I wanna take the hoods, or stick with the high metal collar... I really like the high collar

but the hoooods

[dapper bay]

if it's on higher tiers, it's a mercy for the rest of the team

[bleak sonnet]

not a super hot take, hopefully the store cosmetics are better lol

[summer wind]

the pskyer armor is way too top heavy

[summer wind]

i run a lower tier piece on purpose

suits the hood

[mild lotus]

I'm not picking any headgear for as long as it makes you go bald

[bleak sonnet]

i like the

tier 3 hood

with that armor

[summer wind]

the one where you have one shoulder pad and the gloves

[compact cargo]

It's fatshark, we will likely get mostly recolors

[bleak sonnet]

but i cant get it because the missions are out of rotation

[dapper bay]

i like the top tier Psyker outfits but i'd like more variety, kinda blows everyone looks the same atm

[summer wind]

when i knock enemies off a cliff i'll have that

[dapper bay]

nobody even buys the store cosmetics last i played

[summer wind]

i want the psyker headgear from marketing

[mild lotus]

I did

[autumn marten]

I agree, but my plea is for bulkier pants to fit, not slimmer tops

[summer wind]

the VR headset looking one

[mild lotus]

my armor is from the store

[summer wind]

what about robes

[bleak sonnet]

i just need to beat like, one heresy mission on a type that's not in rotation

[dapper bay]

at least one person of culture here

[wraith tundra]

I hate cliffhanger... I hate most of the penances

[mild lotus]

gratifying

[toxic forge]

did you mean going out with a bang

[jade sundial]

I Hate this one with a passion

[wraith tundra]

AI hate them all

every single one

[mild lotus]

did you mean malleus monstronum?

[autumn marten]

robes are a separate class of drip, but I wanna nail the 'magepunk' one first, yknow? Then deck myself out like a vengeful acolyte that wields hell itself

[bleak sonnet]

i got going out with a bang completely by accident while helping another psyker get his penances

[autumn marten]

gotta have sets

[summer wind]

that's fair yeah

[toxic forge]

thats easy

[dapper bay]

i'm more invested in video game fashion than IRL fashion

[mild lotus]

excuse me?

[summer wind]

what'd you do for it?

[toxic forge]

I hit bb until the monster died lol

[dapper bay]

sold their soul to Tzeentch

[mild lotus]

this the psykers channel good sir, nobody has friend irl to do penances

[summer wind]

yeah but how did nobody ruin it for you

[summer wind]

stop it

:(

[mild lotus]

we're basically the nerds of warhammer 40k

[dapper bay]

friends are temporary, darktide drip is eternal

[noble ridge]

Why do I crash everytime I use the left click attack with the white flames staff

[mild lotus]

even the Taus laugh at us

[wraith tundra]

Eventually we get fed to the emperor

[toxic forge]

Literally just use lfg lol.

[bleak sonnet]

ill help anyone with penances whenever

[regal raft]

I bought this pair that makes the pants ook like a pair of stockings form the 70s

[dapper bay]

that's what happens when your peril stays at 100% for too long

[mild lotus]

ew, communication

[summer wind]

👀

[autumn marten]

Truth be told, I know almost nothing of warhammer lore, just tiny snippets of info on some factions. I apologize for my ignorance

[summer wind]

ain't got a mic but i got a dream

[noble ridge]

Rifthaven purgatus force staff

[summer wind]

and half an hour to kill

[wraith tundra]

I need a squad to help me with the penances

[dapper bay]

sadly i can't use LFGs because I play with my boyfriend and they're hearing impaired

[mild lotus]

how bad?

[dapper bay]

so i have to be the only one on comms with them

[bleak sonnet]

u need cliffhanger right?

[toxic forge]

@mild lotus Anything for the drip

[autumn marten]

NO way you just got in my lobby

[summer wind]

yeah, and the boss one, i got bored doing it and gave up halfway

more worried about cliffhanger though

[mild lotus]

pfeh, makes you look fat...

[summer wind]

the boss one definitely does

[bleak sonnet]

the good map isnt up for that

rn

rip

[summer wind]

shame

[lime hemlock]

We are alpharius.

[summer wind]

in rotation or just not up

[lime hemlock]

We are legion.

[bleak sonnet]

not up

[lime hemlock]

We are all Alpharius in our lord's glorious army.

[bleak sonnet]

on the current missionboard

[summer wind]

i'll watch out then

chasm right?

[bleak sonnet]

chasm raid

[summer wind]

gotcha

i'll ping if it comes up

[bleak sonnet]

not logistratum

the other chasm

[summer wind]

yeah

[mild lotus]

it is chasm logistratum tho

[bleak sonnet]

oh

it is?

shit

[mild lotus]

the one map with the tiny bridge

without railing

[summer wind]

oh

[wispy tangle]

i'm down to show up if anyone wants to set up a t4 run in logistratum for monstronum malleus penance farming

[summer wind]

i also need this

[dapper bay]

at a level where if we're with anyone else on voice then they basically don't talk at all because we can't communicate in a group of more than 2

[bleak sonnet]

i will 100% stand there and do nothing while u farm the boss

[dapper bay]

so i just have them on comms and we carry the randos on lower tiers

[mild lotus]

I see, but he isn't 100% deaf at least?

[summer wind]

good on you for being so respecting, that's rad

[mild lotus]

that's what I wanted to know

[dapper bay]

nah not 100%

[noble ridge]

No one has any solution to this rifthaven staff CTD

[summer wind]

freak bug, should be fixed at some point

[dapper bay]

mostly has trouble understanding people speak over one another, which happens a lot

[noble ridge]

Staff so cool though

[mild lotus]

isn't that everyone though?

[dapper bay]

actually a big plus to Fatshark for making enemy voice cues so noticeable because they can hear them easily

but not, say, L4D2 ones

though it gets interesting when i have to interject and tell the demons in my head to stop talking so i can hear better

[mild lotus]

sibling?

[dapper bay]

don't worry, i only blew myself up once and that's because of a bug

[bleak sonnet]

step-sibling 😩

[dapper bay]

no demons allowed in this head

mfw tried to headpop a Beast of Nurgle that spawned in that weird spot on one map where it can't get down

so it despawned and my headpop happened at the same time

which meant it just kept going to 100% from 50% for no reason

[mild lotus]

[lime hemlock]

Hey psykers look at this

https://tenor.com/view/holy-shit-whats-happening-whats-going-on-what-is-it-mother-of-god-gif-16251346

[mild lotus]

Evil Dead

[bleak sonnet]

nice

[autumn marten]

your right, we need a book

[mild lotus]

good stuff

[dapper bay]

i like to look at Grimoires when riding elevators

so calming

[regal raft]

Stop looking at my highschool photos asshole

[lime hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/concern-concern-meter-level-of-concern-level-gif-20351438

[dapper bay]

are grimoires supposed to be those thingamajigs that contain demons' real names or something?

or is it just >GENERIC FORBIDDEN TOMES<?

[mild lotus]

probably the later

[bleak sonnet]

GENERIC FORBIDDEN TOMES< sounds like a great wow guild name

[toxic forge]

Harder to get people to listen to not killing elites than it is to kill bosses lol

[bleak sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/shooting-crazy-gun-gif-15109765

[viscid matrix]

they are tomes that must be destroyed due to having information about chaos, they must not be allowed in the citizens hands

[bleak sonnet]

my vet when i say dont shoot the gunner

[dapper bay]

One should be proud of their comrades overzealousness in purging the heretics, however inconvenient it may be

[wispy tangle]

good question tbh, i assumed it was just a nurgle version of necronomicon but hadn't thought about it beyond that

[mild lotus]

Do anyone here remember the "gather 6 relics" side objective from open beta?

[raw breach]

Grimoires are really just God-Emperor/Nurgle fanfics

[wispy tangle]

that explains why it corrupts you

[dapper bay]

imagine if a warp explosion that triggers a character death could spawn a daemonhost in the psyker's place

that'd be fun

[viscid matrix]

nah they are Khorn nurgle and slanesh fanfics

[mild lotus]

Slaanesh

[raw breach]

No, those are the scriptures.

[mild lotus]

🫦

[viscid matrix]

scriptures are emperor of man and astartes fanfic

[lime hemlock]

Y'all see that chinese 40k mobile chaos game ad?

Literally says slaneesh.

[wispy tangle]

being the psyker in a team of 3 vets is an experience

[viscid matrix]

thats me right now 😐

[dapper bay]

yeah, they get real mad when you steal all their kills with a Recon Lasgun

[raw breach]

literally my last run

[dapper bay]

[steady sand]

aye, feeling so non-usless when they kill so fast elites, as psyker

[raw breach]

"Enemies are behind cover!" from all the Vets, Surge Staff comes along and says "No they're not"

[wispy tangle]

in those 3 vet teams, i'm basically the human with a laser pointer (BB glowing head) and the vets are overly excited cats with guns

so it kinda works out

[dapper bay]

Here's what you do: you mark one enemy with your ping, you headpop the other

I learned that on like day 3 or 4 of the beta

[mild lotus]

even in a team with 3 vets, our main role stays the same

which is dog catching

[steady sand]

shock people

oh right dogs.

[dapper bay]

NEVER ping the enemy you want to headpop yourself

Gotta train your Veterans after all

[mild lotus]

also, shield lowering

[raw breach]

my strategy currently is just chain lightning stunlock everything to death as I casually walk through each level

[turbid olive]

BB is like a bulletmagnet for vets

[wispy tangle]

same except when i'm fishing for pick n mix

[wraith tundra]

vets killing my bb kinda makes me mad

but you know what, I shouldn't be using it anyways so hey

[raw breach]

yeah, at that point i don't even bother trying to cast a BB

[steady sand]

yea, headpop its only for dogs :V

[mild lotus]

when you can't refresh your 4 stacks because your bb targets get depoped by your 'teammates'

[raw breach]

i just tag it and let it die while i stunlock everything else on my screen

[wraith tundra]

lets be real though, warp charge stacks are literally useless

[autumn marten]

they have to do more

[mild lotus]

they're alright but they shouldn't all go away at once

[steady sand]

are annoying to keep them non stop up, should last a bit longer

[dapper bay]

i mostly use BB to regen my toughness on command lmao

[mild lotus]

you should lose them 1 by 1

[raw breach]

basically just emotionalsupport psyker

[turbid olive]

At heresy+ dogs take 2 BBs to die, so its more effective to sidestep and hack it

[wraith tundra]

Its better to do anything other than bb

but we are all head popping addicts

[mild lotus]

superior way: bb + side dodge + swap to gun to shot it down

[dapper bay]

the emperor gave us recon lasguns for a reason

[steady sand]

what is this "gun"?

[sharp obsidian]

honestly the lvl 25 feat should make it stack to up to 8 stacks

that way it atleast does something

[wraith tundra]

god no

imagine keeping 8 stacks up

[dapper bay]

so you can lose even more of them instantly?

[mild lotus]

8 stacks?

when you lose them...
I'd ragequit

[steady sand]

they are moments without mobs..then GL for your stacks

[wraith tundra]

They should just give more damage than a measly 3% for playing their stupid minigame, and bb should bypass armor

[summer wind]

psyker stacks should degrade one at a time

not all at once

[sharp obsidian]

Would be a bit of an outcast engineer gameplay loop but that way you atleast get a reward instead of... nothing

[wraith tundra]

penances should just be given to us at this point

[grand vine]

I want to do something painful for science. Let me know if anyone else has done this. Testing to see if the damage to the assassination target's shield doesn't count for killing a monstrosity alone.

[mild lotus]

imagine playing this super powerful mage from the future in a grim dark universe, you can blow off people's head from miles away and push back entire waves of people with your mind

[dapper bay]

no, you see, their headgear makes it so their brains don't all pour out when their head explodes so they can keep it inside the helmet and keep going

[mild lotus]

but you get countered by elevators

[summer wind]

that is just the life

[wraith tundra]

So who wants to go penance hunting? Any takers yeah yeah?

[steady sand]

with ones?

[wraith tundra]

All of them

[dapper bay]

"all of them"

[steady sand]

it took me days to do cliffhanger

[dapper bay]

HA

[wraith tundra]

LOL

[steady sand]

oh God

[dapper bay]

You speak your thoughts so loudly sibling

[grand vine]

cliffhanger is the most annoying one

[steady sand]

for long time i had 19/2-0

[wraith tundra]

Honestly the rest are doable

cliffhanger makes me want to hang from the cliff

[grand vine]

cliffhanger is like

[summer wind]

the monster one is just boring as fuck

[grand vine]

RNG mostly lmao

[dapper bay]

the AI director knows you want to do Cliffhanger, so it never spawns hordes when you're near edges

[summer wind]

i can't wait to hold lmb on a boss for 5 minutes while hoping my allies don't accidentally hit it or wipe during the 5 minutes

[dapper bay]

mfer is smart

[wraith tundra]

I just, whoever made the penances

[wraith tundra]

should be put in the dunce corner

For at least a month

[wispy tangle]

cursed image

[summer wind]

OPINION: the boss pennance should be solo the boss, not solo with only brain burst, and it should be 90% of the boss rather than a single hit cancelcing it

[dapper bay]

don't worry you'll get buyable cosmetics on release

right?

[wraith tundra]

@steady sand I am sorry for your loss

[mild lotus]

should get brain bursted by a psyker

[steady sand]

nah i got 20/20, 2 days latter

at now i struge to get 3 elite by explosion

[wise pecan]

To be fair, considering how hard it is to kill someone blessed by nurgle, this is actually valid logic

[mild lotus]

even then, that's laughably unrealistic in any scenario

[hearty oak]

[wraith tundra]

Welp I am on if anyone wants to cry together

[grand vine]

honestly the only problem i've had with the penance is staying alive long enough for a group of 20 to get on the bridge

[steady sand]

for "better hood"

[dapper bay]

well yeah my thinking exactly

[steady sand]

i do not get this in bridge

[wraith tundra]

Ill be chilling in ST 28

[summer wind]

pennances as they are encourage you throwing the game and your team has to go along with it

[dapper bay]

the helmet just pushes their brain matter back inside

[summer wind]

it's bad

[grand vine]

the other problem with psyker penances is that ogryns help you more than other classes lmao

zealot maybe since they have some high stamina weapons to herd

[dapper bay]

find 3 ogryn friend

[mild lotus]

as long as the watermelon's skin doesn't crack, the watermelon is whole and fresh

[elfin crystal]

cliffhanger is actually not bad, but it's way easier if your teammates actually manually push the rest off with melee after you wave push

[dapper bay]

do all penance

enjoy rations

[grand vine]

i shall pay them in stickers

[wraith tundra]

Penance farming wouldn't be bad if private games just existed

[dapper bay]

They will

[summer wind]

just tell them you made them stronger with your mind or something, or made them men like mindy from the spongebob movie

[dapper bay]

post release