#zealot-class
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The max health is stupid you're saying? lol
yes
Health only has 1 value on zealot, and that's the martyr's purpose talent which is already very bad
Zealot scales toughness damage reduction
zealot's base health (200) is the amount that other classes use health curios to get to
Okay, glad to hear my logic makes sense then
because it insures you don't outright die to stupid shit like snipers and poxbursters
And toughness regen
It's hard to trust all these zealot "meta" builds online when they get something as simple as max health on curio wrong
"luckily" 
the zealot meta is just this
if it doesn't look like this it's instantly a bad build
with notable exception that you can fit any of the grenades or keystones
grenades?
if it aint a tknife
so like these are also okay
it aint meta
knives are better
people use the stun grenade ?
Really?
for penance yeah
Ew zealot chat in my Vet chat
Or is it the other way around? 🤔
ey orcka
Punt
HARK YE AND PRAISE KINDRED
(probably the most fun of all of the classes to get master of war)
Oh yeah the loner penances are super fun
honestly yeah they were
i was basically farming Comms Plex 154/2f for that
with the constant shotgunner and gunner spawns at the hold out location near the middle
use trash and play like an asshole to get those penances
it's like a challenge run kinda
why are zealots penances designed that way
okay gents so i need your opinion here
i'm making a typical martyrdom build with the Rashad Caxe
and the Spearhead Boltgun
do i go for Invocation of Death
or TWBS?
scrungly noelle
Prob for the best
Why do people use rashad?
I run twbs on everything because I'm too lazy to care about stagger
It's good
boring but good
good cleave, good damage
Hm
all of your heavies are top attack
i haven't really gotten much use from the special action tbh
you have to be touching tips with heretics to make it work
Is it just me or is the bolt pistol kinda shit?
I dropped it the moment I noticed it was all strikedown
nah that's peak
strikedown is great
Still dont get why people use it
kills good
You spam lights most of the time which aren't strike downs
Maybe I used all strikedown mark
shrimple
for heavies, Rashad is all strike down
Rashad is it's own mark
for lights, Rashad is mostly sweeping left/right
it's also a bit sluggish tbh, but a martyrdom rashad isn't too bad
okay compared to Taxe 7 (which i came from)
it is slow
and it leaves some odd windows where you're not really doing anything
but elsewise
it's great
besides, Martyrdom gets rid of approx 24% of the issue i have with the Rashad
thammer perks? maniac and carapace?
or Unyielding/Carapace
are you going for usability or meme boss damage
I think I gotta redo my zealot builds, if someone could share me some talent builds for thunder hammer, duelling sword, relic blade, heavy eviscerator, combat blade, I would appreciate it
gonna use a spear boltgun for my boss damage
you have a hammer, that is your boss dmg
at the moment I just have one, this, like I have no idea what this is or what this is
thats basically what anyone will recommend you
that's the standard crit weapon build
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f8c58e9-2c3e-425d-8efc-9793b37e956a/terrible-marty-zealot-build-2 this is what i would build
you can also go martyrdom (but that's a weird glass cannon route)
fair enough, what secondary then? infantry autogun?
meesa giving a try den
anything for killing specials/horde
aight
Marty is fun but ij is just better
This is the standard build
Works with most weapons
oh is it? I have something good?? cool
Swap the crit talents if your weapon isn’t good at critting
just dont use it for hammer/chaxe
I’d drop purge the unclean for twbs but it’s good
You would drop purge and not 2x fotf and right side piety
oh, I'd need an extra point for twbs on top of dropping purge the unclean
shredder autopistol dump collateral or mobility?
maybe I should drop anoint in blood?
In pins
Ive seen both used as dump stats before so Im not sure
I do
IJ?
done thanks for the suggestion
Right keystone that gives you damage and buffs your dodges
Purge > twbs
It’s just non crit zealot
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dda22ad-68a6-4234-8df3-7fea5a87a024/terrible-non-crit-zealot-build
this sexy thang?
so wait out of my weapons what DON'T work with this 'standard zealot build' I am gonna guess going blazing piety like this is fine for, duelling sword, relic blade, heavy eviscerator, combat blade, yeah?
so what do I run for thunder hammer
do I just swap inexorable judgement
Yeah pretty much
You also take stealth on hammer if you’re doing funny one shot build
You are just highly specialized
You’ll have to ask your team to make up in the areas where you’re weaker
In exchange for you deleting every boss and crusher the second they spawn in
martyrdom is fun though
Can take stealth on hammer w/o the one shot build as well. Shroudfield scales really well for most weapons, especially ones that can deal with Carapace already.
Most weapons work for all builds, it's just a case of 'these have high synergy'. Only caveat off the top of my head is that chain weapons just outright don't work with Shroudfield because of a bandaid fix for the infinite Shroudfield bug a long time ago.
oh, uh yeah I don't even have shroudfield in my 'main build' here I generally prefer the charge
I ask him this all the time but he never answers 
where did da floor go 
Blab
Only you can answer that
It's basically just a pick between better toughness gen & rending or higher damage output. Crit build usually runs FotF just due to the stat node cost to grab Benediction, Shroudfield, and Blazing Piety. Fun to grab on setups that don't have Benediction or Blazing Piety though.
that makes sense

Man do I despise poxbursters

always when I am in a corner do they spawn in on masse
Mk II is cooler
Mk X is easier for mostly the same effectiveness
or was it the other way around
no I was right about them
Both are good
yeah its like that
i remember people arguing which one is better based on 0.0.0.00..1 difference
wo cares bro 
Mk II is better because it has a more interesting moveset
blab
stan
Correct 
@wooden basalt for thammer
dogs scared of fireworks i can hear the door scratching from my room and they're outside
if i don't act fast i'll have no more door..
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but how does this fit in the lore
Aura
it doesn't 
this has nothing to do with venom having sex with robo-ky
got it thanks!
i joined a dark communion
that was in progress
and spawned in with everyone having one wound left before the drop off
oh no

It already does
Every class does this
Umm
Does anyone have the pic of the angles?
Am not home rn
I thought that was only when sliding
You got this
mentally receive messages
bro is sefoni
ah so it this talent only makes it so that even out of stamina it will count those angles?
Yes
yeah but it's still really bad
Rarely useful since sliding is already the range dodge option
cause you can just
.. slide
And conserving stam for combat is more effective
and it competes with a good cdr talent
it's complicated
you can backstab things almost in the face by positioning yourself correctly
Not the designated voyeur throne
😭
The cuck bench
blab
i hadn't played with the shockmine yet and idk what i expected
literally pocket smite
better smite 
Worse 
i still cant tell if you're joking or not calling bro mid when it's making people mald about how busted it is
2 vets on my team, 3 snipers at the other end of the map chilling for 10 minutes
i had to use 4 break the lines to get to them
do ur job gun monkey
shoot the thing
vet players when they have to actually do vet things and not just shout
agree tbh buff bro more 
But if you had a dog.....
It won't really change anything 
My personal issue is that you ain't doing shit at the first hit
It's Disdain as a class
💀
relying on vets to take out snipers and bombers has made me lose too much hp
you're insta applying concussive and skullcrusher
then nuking them
i mean bro would be too op if he could 1 shot when he's super tanky with great stamina
the arbi maul is as close as it gets to 1 tapping elites and 2-3 tapping crushers and people are crying for it to get the nerf hammer
If he could one shot he wouldn't need to be tanky
After all
A dead enemy can't hurt you

i mean
the whole gimmick is le stagger and cc
you aint staggering things that die fast
(they still die fast)
Yeah
But the best stagger is death
No need to stagger if you just straight up kill the target

just play arbi maul
elites are all within 1-2 taps range with fast af lights
crushers 3 hits ez pz
that would make all of them feel samey tho
And they all feel better
snipers so stacked they were practically kissing and making out
classic rolling steel
i always bring a long range gun for this
game will always spawn snipers to fk with u
yeah mb i saw 2 SHARPSHOOTER VETERANS so i thought i could yknow
rely on their SHARPSHOOTING
but little did i know
Bro got dullshooters
they were floor hugging veterans
💀
there's two type of vets
plasma/hellbore that actually shoot faraway things
and the rest
one had recon las
no excuses
i have footage of them trying to kill one sniper for 20 seconds and then dying in pox gas
send lmao
actually nvm it deleted itself after i clipped
even the footage was ashamed
If I may ask though, what is considered a "good" Veteran?
to me it's someone who plink specialists heads before they can even make a move
but in current dt sadly it's just someone who pops VoC on CD
This is Zealot chat
but you should be able to swap between melee and ranged on corresponding threats as a TLDR
Like, God Emperor help me, as Zealot I can hack away without fear of damage, Psyker I've been fortunately shown the power of Assail, Veteran I am legitimately struggling even though I'm a fairly good shot myself
They kill
Hmm okay...
it was just funny to me how my vets played the "shooting" class but were dogwater at shooting static specialists
You’re not a dog
They can clear enemies same as other classes
Is thunder hammer still mid?
I was. I like it's moveset better 😔
Did they give the other one easier acess to powerd strikedowns?
you get a free strikedown heavy after powering up now
no reason to use the ironmid anymore
be free my child
enjoy the rawest of the raw
pure dmg
unpowered heavies and push attacks
Many thanks!
actually you can do 2 heavies into 1 light and repeat 1 heavy+ 1 light infinitely for hordes
i frogot they had changed that
it let's you get hits in faster than just heavies but there's use cases for only H
mainly hitmass
wait nvm the light in the combo doesn't even get past 1 groaner
just do heavies and push attcks
Because the lights are Strikedowns
With L3 being the one that hurts the most
Lovely
As opposed to Ironhelms tickler lights
no there's one sweep
at least the animation is a perfectly horizontal strike
oh so it's just fs being fs and hitting me with the horizontal strikeDOWN i see
i see
mmgg
@copper hawk @stoic thunder
I found john vet
in my havoc 40
middle only with his talents
+3 wounds
chainsword las rifle
peak
Foul ,,
his toughness...
95
martyrdom veteran wtf
learned a spot today
also idk how that sniper hit me
you are fucking kidding me
this shit again?
"There's no escape from the lex"


watching this back
I think the sniper was focused to someone behind me
or
my dodge got messed up by that gravel patch
Ironically it's the worst thing about the Crucis.
Thankfully you can instantly block cancel it to get the better activated heavy animation.
Yeah it's a single target payoff move. It's better than the normal lights by a fair amount. Also has a rather unintelligent finesse setup for some reason but that's par.
what
you cant stand on the green
this is an old havoc modifier
no one liked
gyuess whgat
they brought ti backl
enemy drop green
i think my h40 run was blight on gloriana
rn?
no it was way back
kk
got home wanted to play DT all night
see this
and now half way thorugh mission I want to get off this game
fuck blight
so unfun
I cant do anything
blight was really demotivating especially with randoms
Fantastic 4 (2025) Kojima approved
Do heavies even do more damage against armor?
Like if I have a relic blade or combat axe should I even heavy armoured folk
most weapon attacks have higher damage to armor with heavies yes
it varies per weapon though
Fuck
Yes
Combat Axe heavies Ogryn sized enemies and carapace
Anything else is light light light
Relic sword is still light light light? Really?
I love dying in uprising twins
tally like #60
of how many times this has happened to me
Relic Blade has real combos, it's never the best option to just spam lights.
So im not crazy, good to hear
It has single target combos
So learn those
Like mk10's push attack heavy light heavy heavy light
I see
have people figured out why this happens yet? I love getting one shot by shield burst during havocs
its random afaik
this is why i play league of legends instead
this clip would have been vastly improved by that trapper hitting you
Fun story
I played with a Zealot named Tupac
On Consignment yard
He Speedrun that shit
Got to the cogitator part
Spawned shotgunners, ate shit and left
So we had the objective marker 105m away
Beast mode
I only remember seeing him on the start of the mission
The errand zealot
@chrome wave Amazing stream
it's my favorite game
@sullen forge @green yacht @plush estuary
tuah
U cant say that.
ffffff
all good if not
burger can join instead
friend!
i said friend .
it’s all good though,,,
sighh
this but minus the last part
never even ask me
caht
chat
what if someone said
hawk tuah
and a hawk tuah them
what ever that mean
I would hawk too
tuah 😔
Thingie

Blue

ultra stink
pull our fingers
whats up priestywolf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The greeting frog
The wise monkey
Minecraft
steve!!!!!!
loaded into a maelstrom with relic blade mkx instead of the mk2
2 horizontals stab lights is mk10
l1, l2 horde clear
h1, h2 strike down
an active learning experience for the combos
i will say that i am much more used to the h1 being a horizontal sweep that i may use for fury of the faithful such as on the mk2
Who was gonna tell me path of pain in hollow knight is a leisurely park stroll
It's harder to go to the corner store to grab a gatorade wth
"man, why is zealot so bad at taking damage?"
meanwhile my score (mine is the 4th one)
I wonder why lmfao
Why are yountaking 2k damage?
thats the point
I cant avoid it, so I end up thinking that the class is bad
when in reality I just suck
Fair nuff
tbh idk what I'm doing wrong either lol
I shoot the important stuff, I dodge when I hear the "whoosh" sfx
I think I'm just cooked
probably being pelted by gunners 
Hard to say about the damage, although, isn't that the toughness damage as well? Most zealot builds are made for it, with crazy regen.
The real question is how many times are you getting downed, or pinned, to be fair.
I stand corrected then 🤣
You could try a chorus build, a more supportive role then. Fast phased rushes might not be the best playstyle for you yet.
Also, with that build you can either make ur team "immortal" or increasing their damage by 30%, a versatile choice for different team comps.
I did have a chorus build before, im just playing whatever I havent finished the penance on
taking that much isnt all that rare for me unfortunately, since I installed power DI my stat for that has been 1.8k, 1.8k, 0.9k, 0,9k and now the 2k
Im assuming if I had it earlier I'd have seen worse values too
I might swap it for scoreboard bcz powerDI isnt showing me how many times I went down
I think it was 2 rescues, and another 1-2 downs
the nexus makes it look so good but there's like, nothing in it
Ah see that your peoblem
Doge like you have paranoia
Your first mistake was not doing at all time
Think is has if you are a fish or a horse
When you stop moving
You die
my dodge counter would literally bottom out and start reading negatives bruh\
its simply joever for me
That's when you gotta learn to space your doge
Sometimes going negative works but you can just stop to do one push and get back to dodging
Doging 
Me when I me when
Empereror
ok I finally found it
I think it means I went down thrice, two I was left 4 dead and one I was revived
Ill try
everything is a jojo refrence
love the jesus american steel ball run arc
i cant believe jesus was a stand
multi melta still funny business only round 15 tho @acoustic dune
i dont like playing heavy ngl
maybe its the shit weapon not being at max
or smth else
i need to try shotgun heavy someday
or bazooka heavy
only things i dont have maxxed on heavy is big plasma and melta pistol
THE GRIND IS KRILLING ME
ITS SO LONG
i havve so many range weapon to max
burst precision shot on sniper seem to go crazy
but i need to max it first
the bolt sniper is crazy
since you gain ammo back from secondary
this is what going back to zealot after playing arby looks like
why does my PA not do damage
why does my PA have no reach
that’s just ironhelm lmfao
Ironhelm is cursed
cracked out dagger throws
But mah spechul attack

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The thunder hammers are weapons that skipped leg days. If you know what I mean.
i dont
im doing fine with crucis
idc thats the fat ugly sister-in-law
words of the guy who settled for the fatter uglier sister
takes 1 to know 1
TRUE !!!!
FUCK YOU
I WILL POOP ON EVI
😡
It has too much invested in one specific thing, at the expense of everything else it can do.
ah
eh
kinda
ye pickaxes have double its stamina base
and dont need a special to do damage
also the block eff is god awful on thammers
i still wish lights did a little more damage
and yah block eff needs to be like
20x better
ye
pickaxes also have the billhook special or just a bash
bonk
thammers are pretty much the only weapon i get my block broken on
Mobility, horde clear, push attack, moveset, damage falloff. They are all sacrificed to the existence of the special heavy attack.
thammer is Genuinely the only reason i play zealot
fatshark is afraid to give thunder hammer its AOE special after crusher got its aoe gutted
I wish they would make a 3rd mark with a large AOE knock back and lingering electric DMG.
that sounds like itd be better as a crusher mark
ive always thought thammer should have a small AOE stagger
especially on kill
Ground pound special
but not the same size as crusher
but the crushers lame and sutpid
so
sigh.
thats my line
thats why you have a flamethrower on your back
I tried implementing your tips
I think they helped, thanks
how do I get scoreboard to not do that though
yeah I got surprised too
I swapped to scoreboard since powerDI was too detailed and got hit with this
is it too much to ask for basic stats like VT used to give 😔
thats ovenproofs plugin
u can customize it in mod settings
this is too confusing for my dumbass
what are these numbers
powerdi is great for finding a weakness in gameplay
i just use bonkhammer and flammer, burn it away
ive seen people complain about dying a lot
its equally as confusing though
like what even is this
^
ppl said to use ovenproof with it
n usually their dodge counter is below like
so I kinda just did
speaking of which, where do you find that info in powerDI
yeah but u didnt like how detailed powerdi is so why do the same thing with scoreboard
uhhhhh
trying 2 remember
finding dodges and downs is giving me a nightmare
i feel like people should be able to tell what they're ass at without a scoreboard to begin with ,,
blud I had no idea that was what the plugin did
well usually they say they're dying a lot
first match I run w/ this
but cant tell why
thats what the mod page says through
Oh didn't see this I was drawing horses
the mod page has a screen shot showing you what it looks like x3
that works for me in a simple game like deep rock galactic, but in this game is a genuine hassle to keep track of numbers
I use it more to see where I was fucking up with a new build im trying with if i cant narrow it down feel wise
nah you know what Im installing both at the same time, gonna turn myself into hadron
i just reinstalled it and im pretty sure all my old match data is wrong
yup I found it, thanks!
how would I read this though?
as 2 downs (dead)? or 3 downs (dead + knocked down)?
gotcha, thanks again
sry distracted
knocked down is just that, downed but not dead
dead is full on death
hogtied is the state ur in after u respawn
but not picked up yet
makes sense, thanks!
SILENCE noob
Pointz at u and zaps u w a lightning bolt
That turnz u into a frog epic style
yarp !
powerDI is actually pretty easy to use
it just looks really confusing at first
ur a Buddy
biggest buddy
Hi lambda 
how’s your day going
good, excellent even
Yaaaaaas
go on stan show us your vile creation
and I can only assume yours is too
so i can ask to the new torture method folder
Both PowerDI and scoreboard come with more numbers than that, you're supposed to customize them to preference. I think by default PowerDI only has like 2-4 stats for stuff like damage dealt/taken it's just you can sort it by more specific categories.
I don’t have any atm
thank god
My parents have been cooking
It’s pretty gucci so far
god blessen your parents
the situation is stable

Gleeeep..
HERSHY
sup sinners
currently running a crackhead stealth build with knife and autopistol, should i switch to brautogun (mostly for rager staggering purposes)
@carmine falcon how do I make peak gun strike weapon
Bolter
what does that mean
no. bolter's easy mode
Why stagger when you can explode them
Shotgun
also not a bad idea tbqh. double barrel
just play fencing
easiest parry window
and use something like plasma pistol cause it has high dmg plus aoe
Doesn't gun strike damage is connected to the secondary
Is heavy bolter stinky? Compare to the plasma pistol in term of damage?
Plasma Pistol?
Sm2
both heavy bolt pistol and plasma pistol have high gun strike dmg
oh
only real difference is plasma has an AOE
Oh
does anyone else feel a bit meh with arbites shotgun killing a whole pox wave
with a single shot
which?
the hand canon
or the big one
no
i got arbites on 30, it feels so strong
doesnt do well again carapace
lol
@carmine falcon is the emperor vengeance any good?
The one that let you gain ammo back
Or is that too meme?
Majoris is the one above minoris yes?
I just saw a crayon eater space marine
what 
I forgor to take a screenshot
It's gone now
Anyhow what's deem as a majoris
I was confusing it with extremis
grunts = minoris
majoris = warriors and marines
extremis = specialists like lictor, ravener, terminators ect
rollslop
Arbites?
yeah
Psyker, Zealot, and Veteran are all capable of doing the same thing with Man-Stopper on their shotguns
Veteran is so good at it that it's viable to run double barrel on them in havocs lol
Just to annihilate entire crowds in a single shot
With Weapon Specialist for the guaranteed crit of course
John sekiro
The last boss is awesome to fight against as Executor
All his phases are very well animated and feel super like
Idk how to describe it, but the attack looks as fast as it is if that makes any sense
he's my favourite everdark
nothing like the utter dogshit that is that blue flying towel
None of the holding for a second slowly before an attack then dropping impossibly fast
All his attacks feel like they're going as fast or as slow as they should be
Combos are very parriable, AoE is parriable and fun
Or deflectable rather
Makes u feel swagful
And he kinda stands around for a sec after his swinging on foot combos so u can riposte
Best boss fight in the game imo
LMFAO
i tried to parry the nuke during this fight but something that never happened occurred
The flying tampon of doom..
Wut happen
I got the shit kinda memorized now in case randoms dont destroy the yellow sigils
And he powers up and does the AoE
Me love poise damage yummeth yummeth
everdark libra better be peak...
I want a soulslike game but w for honor combat
or else...
No rolling.. wolling cwinge..
STAND and FIGHTE !!
I saw a meme i havent been able to find since u saw it w my peepers
It was like a dark souls screenshot w some big ass monstrosity in a cloak enemy swinging a big ass sword down on the player
But someone had super imposed the for honor hud onto the screenshot
And the player was a Black Prior going into flip stance
Cant find it ,,
are U insane
i want a soulslike but if it was the worst game of all time - u
Id say nioh 2
i need ad mortem to release
Nioh play it now cica
And stance systems with alternatives to parrying
Nightreign is very good about this
You would find it perfect
Enemy attacks are designed to be very intuitive to dodge
Like deflections or chambers or master strikes
Which is very different from how the normal Elden Ring enemies are
Where they're unintuitive intentionally to force you to learn them
the average elden ring mob holding an attack for 2 hours before actually swinging
🤑
Like that one meme of Margit holding his attack for 10 years
sometimes a bit too much like with the purple dragon uh
Adel
Nightreign also telegraphs unblockable grab attacks to you
now that one's p good
A bit too much probably
i like the soundcue
Well it's more that Nightreign has a character whose whole gimmick is blocking
That sounds
like
incredibly boring
And normal From Software enemy design having grab attacks that do not inform you they are unblockable visually would be really really really really awful
cica your so thick headed its insane
i havent actually touched nightreign and i dont think i ever will
it's a coop game first and foremost






