zealot-class

[remote lark]

i end most of m ygames with <200 damage

[sullen forge]

Desync being more common now as well cause the servers love killing themselves

[remote lark]

rare correct gale comment 📸

[grizzled aspen]

Chip damage is unavoidable + its friendly fire because Lumii is an asshole and pops barrels on me.

[naive stream]

I swear either gunker are really good or really ass

[uncut swallow]

That. There is just so many things that can go wrong without your fault in which UD saves the day

[remote lark]

frogs okay at it

[tight scroll]

that extends to all Psykers imo

[naive stream]

Lumi keep hitting barrels bc funny

[tight scroll]

they're either god tiered gamers who make the class look easy or 5 wound floor tanks

[remote lark]

i dont actually hit barrels
hes just mad cause i hit one (1) today

[grizzled aspen]

I'm talking about making a mistake on psyker. Its pretty hard to make a mistake on them, usually it's warp unbound being a fucking liar because tranq through slaughter and crack of bone don't work correctly with it.

[uncut swallow]

Didn't you just say: "just don't get hit bro?" Now you saying that it's unavoidable

[sullen forge]

5 wound pox burster cosplayers

[remote lark]

bugs kill me more on psyker than enemies do

[grizzled aspen]

Half of Tau's hp and 3/4 of mine gone instantly in h40. I think I can be a little mad about that.

[naive stream]

New psyker build just blow up

[vague depot]

I play melee psyker with the idea that my life is too short to play safe

[remote lark]

you were full health noob
taus the only one who lost hp

[grizzled aspen]

Do you understand the difference between taking an overhead to the teeth and one chaff getting a lucky shot on you?

[tight scroll]

I play fire psyker with the idea that the ogryn is hungry and Im broiling him a lunch

[remote lark]

arguing with frog is pointless
if he ever starts losing an argument he'll just start ragebaiting you becuase it's funny

[uncut swallow]

Well sometimes that one chaff is what downes you.

[vague depot]

*into

[naive stream]

Please tell me you have the one part that gives more fire

[sullen forge]

Playing Ogryn with the sole purpose of how many debuffs can we stack on this one elite till it dies

[grizzled aspen]

I'm either right or I'm ragebaiting.

Had this typed out b4 the edit.

[uncut swallow]

Like holy shit he contradicts himself so much

[grizzled aspen]

In this case, though, I am right. Chip damage is unavoidable. Eating an overhead is absolutely avoidable.

[tight scroll]

I got fire on top of fire so I can inflict third degree burns on third degree burns

[naive stream]

Get a zealot with flamer for even more fire

[uncut swallow]

You want to say that you never got darktided with desyncs?

[grizzled aspen]

If one chaff can down you then that's not chip damage lmao, that's just you being bad at the game and going down to one chaff.

[remote lark]

he shills for psyker because he is addicted to gunker right now after lena carried him

zealot is still overall the stronger class if you're measuring it by like, how many games can you carry to completion

psyker is stronger in terms of 'how fast can i murder everything in this room"

[tight scroll]

and fire nades, to recreate that one Blood Mage quote from WC 3

[sullen forge]

Everyone swapping to psyker cause it’s literally the best class in the fucking game 🚬

[grizzled aspen]

Again, not a carry, I did my job as a book user and she did hers as dps.

[naive stream]

This random enemy is about to be baptized in fire

[vague depot]

I would bend my knees to absorb the pressure and stay up

[grizzled aspen]

And I've always liked psyker as a class, you're just a noob and only now realize it. 🚬

[sullen forge]

No I’ve always known psykers been overpowered kick rocks

[delicate shadow]

it's kinda wild how even with slowmode y'all can rack up copium this rapidly

[grizzled aspen]

U&L kinda gimped my psyker for a bit because I trashed everything on her and started over because my weapons were so ass.

[uncut swallow]

Don't get me wrong i am the psyker main. I get the highest damage numbers each game but that isn't what wins the games most often just surviving that parricular bad section of the map and actually carrying the game is i think what matters. Like sure that dude killed everything and is top DPS but What's the point if he keeps dying every now and then? Not like we struggle that much without him kinda thing

[sullen forge]

It’s zealot chat, it’s GOING to happen

[naive stream]

I was just talking about baptizing a random enemy in fire with another guy , don't add me into this equation

[tight scroll]

zealots are the real yappers fr fr

[grizzled aspen]

Damage is survivability, killing things faster = less things to kill you. Top damage is usually the best player in the lobby.

[grizzled aspen]

Always.

[frosty herald]

Both of you are bad at the game 🖕 😎 🖕

[naive stream]

Psykers are just a insane zealot

[remote lark]

did you expect slowmode to fix anything

[delicate shadow]

I mean it did kinda fix the actual problem in a lot of ways, which I did not actually expect

[naive stream]

Are we really that bad?

[remote lark]

it made arguments take longer

the only thing that worked was preventing uploads/embeds, which also killed off any activity from new players who want help with builds

its practically only regulars talking here now

[delicate shadow]

if you know you know

[remote lark]

zealot chat 100% deserved it

[sullen forge]

Those who snow

[naive stream]

Huh, guess I do belong here since I bully my friends with barrels

[remote lark]

why is alt tab not working >:(

[naive stream]

Because no

[sullen forge]

Aquino simply is the Principle of this chat, and I will not be convinced otherwise

[remote lark]

that's too generous
he's more like the only adult in a room full of children
oh wait, same thing

[vague depot]

Where can I watch all the seasons of top gear without paying money

[delicate shadow]

the test scores are abysmal

[naive stream]

That genuinely sounds like a room full of zealots

[sullen forge]

You aren’t yelling at enough people and calling them bad at the game when you’re doing the same exact thing 🚬

Then! You’ll be a real Zealot

[naive stream]

Nah I just look at them like a disappointed father

[hidden grove]

zealots are needed for the cleanse, the book, and some boss dps, that's it, everything else let the superior classes handle it 😌

[naive stream]

I will fling you off the map with a really bad placed barrel

[remote lark]

low tier ragebait

[sullen forge]

Veteran exists to kill specia- oh fuck nvm there’s a staff BB psyker. Unless it’s only VOC spam and then that’s it

[naive stream]

Nah veteran exists to be fleshy meat bag

[remote lark]

veteran exists for roleplayers*

[vague depot]

This take can only come from someone who has a fetish for being yelled at

[naive stream]

So a veteran main?

[remote lark]

wouldn't that be the opposite

[vague depot]

Vets do the shouting

[sullen forge]

In the channel where people act like it’s a MW2 (2009) lobby minus the racial slurs? What do you expect

[naive stream]

Depends on the vet, I like bullying them

[sullen forge]

The non existent Exe Stance user running counter fire with outline to give the team feedback on where enemies are

[hidden grove]

be real guys, horde clear psykers are better, cc ogyrns are better, special killing vets are better

[tidal berry]

exe is moving in the right direction, just very, very slowly. Fatshark should lean even more into a hybrid melee/gun playstyle by reworking its nodes to allow that synergy. Also exe-ws is real fun

[hidden grove]

even boss killing, ranged ogyrn is technically better but that build is gapped

best zealot build is a walking book battery that farm cd with the dagger 😌

[sullen forge]

I’d back this up if they could fucking rework how MF decays cause at this point I seriously don’t care about it effecting melee at all, I just fucking hate how quickly it vanishes even after its buffs. It’s good but held back so much by it’s situational needs

[tidal berry]

I think thats a separate issue. I play Exe with WS because WS is actually the only fun keystone on veteran and funmaxxing is the only way I can cope with video games. I do have some niche builds using MF aswell but I just.. don't like it. I've more or less dropped the guns that relied on MF aswell.

Like I used to be a a diehard fan of the slow helbore, elephant gun, big game hunt and between the keystone introductions and bayonet nerfs it just gotten more and more clunky for a gun thats supposed to be slow and shot sparingly rather than spammed, it just doesn't work in gameplay

The other and more important benefit of going WS instead of MF is you actually end up with a build that has more than just... ranged finesse. You have decent melee, in a melee game. This is critical to making exe stance tolerable because on exe you are made of paper in terms of toughness sustain compared to other ults.

[sullen forge]

Tunnel Vision on MF has some genuine promise but holy shit I wish it wasn’t “uh oh 6 seconds have passed and you’re moving still you’ll now rapidly lose all your stacks!”

[tidal berry]

I mean you can make it work, its just not a playstyle I wish to engage with, I think I take more of a problem with how some of my favourite weapons fared and unfairly got gutted while other weapons are elevated to the point of being disgustingly strong and FS only gets praise for their neglect for balance and consistent cherry picking on what they buff/nerf

[twin wagon]

Nerf zealots to stop been a crutch for mid players

[remote lark]

remove until death

[sullen forge]

Unfortunately we have a box full of Ogryn nerfs that not many people asked for is that fine

[grizzled aspen]

The word youre looking for is "principal."

[sullen forge]

Holy fucking grammar police

[spare talon]

ok mr "i say zealout because the word zealous exists and i ignore the root zeal"

[grizzled aspen]

Yes, note that I nerd emoji'd myself.

[twin wagon]

For the 3rd time

[sullen forge]

LETS SHOOT FOR 5TH

[twin wagon]

I'm still sure there's someone within Fatshark that doesn't like Ogryns

Same for Shockmaul tbh
And autopistol

[lusty wren]

500 ogryn nerfs

[frosty herald]

Ogryns deserve it

[hidden grove]

jokes aside are they actually nerfing ogyrns, I keep hearing it

[spare talon]

yes

[sullen forge]

I’m shocked the heavy swings give toughness talents haven’t been nerfed

[hidden grove]

like what, why

[naive stream]

Who has a vendetta against ogryns

[spare talon]

we're making sure the next batch of ogryn nerfs are really big
hank is the mastermind of it all, coordinating all of us

[twin wagon]

Yeah, or the toughness regen, maybe it's because the one who should not be named thinks it's bad?

[sullen forge]

You’d think they’d go after that instead of like the more weird ones

[spare talon]

(this should be obvious that its a joke)

[sullen forge]

He who shall not be named

[twin wagon]

I thought it was Shank, Fatsharks clone of evil Hank

[remote lark]

i'm telling tanner

[naive stream]

Nuh uh don't do that

[sullen forge]

Racist femboy jumping in joy upon seeing more Ogryn nerfs

[spare talon]

tanner already unironically thinks that playtesters are the sole influence and reason ogryn has recieved nerfs

[naive stream]

I'm sorry? Am I missing some context

[twin wagon]

( he doesn't know dueling sword will be nerfed before he gets true survivor)

[lusty wren]

can we give ogryn a throwable which is just a nuclear bomb

[sullen forge]

I unironically hope it gets nerfed and he struggles with True

[spare talon]

he already has true survivor
its not hard to get
he just said "WORLDS FIRST WORLDS FIRST WORLDS FIRST!!!!" not realizing that he did that """worlds first""" run with someone wearing the true survivor title

[naive stream]

Lol

[frosty herald]

Also reginald got it before him lol lmao (dont mention the fact that tanner was carried through havoc 1-35)

[hidden grove]

wait what, the supposed world first 40 clear doesn't have TS?

[twin wagon]

I was also talking about Bark, not he who shall not be named

[sullen forge]

His ego needs to be studied under a microscope like a new found microbe

[naive stream]

I could probably do that for you

[twin wagon]

There's also that aussie run, forgot the name

[sullen forge]

I love logging into their stream out of morbid curiosity to see Dorn playing with them and they’re just non stop bitching

[tidal berry]

too late, making a reddit post

[naive stream]

I feel like a alien that has no clue what's being said

[spare talon]

and dorn having to be a book baby (and hating every second of it) cuz they couldnt live without it

[twin wagon]

Skibidi Rashons tua got yoinky sploinky gigachad ohio edition in 8k HD

[frosty herald]

Dorn should have never carried him through havoc cause tanner's ego skyrocketed

[frozen kernel]

Saw a video of someone playing havoc a while back and when someone commented “Nice to see someone not just crutching book and shout” someone replied along the lines of “Wow what a shitty thing to say about the world’s first team”

I just thought to myself “Holy shit it’s not that deep, they’re just regular missions with asinine funny mods”

Also I wondered who tf even claims a title like that when we had playtesters FROM THE COMMUNITY who technically would’ve done it before anyone, so why act like it’s even significant?

[hidden grove]

nah player testers don't count or every world first would be theirs in every game

[twin wagon]

WoW Classic guildies when their world first team folds to me and the gang ambushing them as they make the mistake of popping buffs before entering:

[tidal berry]

after hearing about weight allegations I feel icky calling him a femboy..

Am I gatekeeping?

[remote lark]

weight allegations?

[sullen forge]

The what allegations

[spare talon]

allegations implies the lack of evidence

[frosty herald]

Weight allegations😂

[tidal berry]

someone insisted to me certain someone is at least 250 lbs and I was also offered proof but I really don't want to see that .d

[twin wagon]

In European please

[spare talon]

[frosty herald]

Someone is fat

[hidden grove]

he said the no no word

[naive stream]

113 kg

[sterile stone]

[tidal berry]

I don't exactly want to throw anyone under the bus for being fat, eating disorders are no joke, but like, seriously, just starve yourself if you're at that point because clearly your ''diet'' is not working if you're in triple digit KGs

[twin wagon]

Not bad

[frozen kernel]

To my knowledge a lot of devs do most of their shit in house, then just face the music when something like a big raid drops. Not all of them necessarily can/care to reach out to experienced community players and be like “hey can u keep a secret…here’s a beta branch”

That’s why I think one of the D2 ones was so messy recently (I say recent but it was what, maybe a year or so) because the teams kept having to restart for technical nonsense?

[twin wagon]

Following averages, then we can deduce the one who shall not be named is 2,34m tall or 7'6ft

[naive stream]

Not the healthiest but there's other variables, like fat% height, among other things

[tidal berry]

muscle percentage can bloat your weight without making you look fat but you don't get that kind of muscle mass playing vidya .d

[twin wagon]

You can do a lot of rubber exercises while gaming, mostly to train upper body and specially arm strenght

Bit harder to do legs if you don't have a tall desk

[naive stream]

Yea true, I was just to lazy to add it. Hence why i said among other variables

[tight scroll]

then theres me whos just a fat piece of shit

granted, I am losing weight

[naive stream]

Let's be honest here, most people don't do thst

[tight scroll]

turns out, not having to work and having a lot of free time does wonders for helping someone work out

[naive stream]

Progress is progress mate, I wish you luck on your journey

[tidal berry]

I just starve myself if I think I need to lose fat, been there twice in my life

[tight scroll]

thats not a good idea

[naive stream]

You could just do cardio?

[sterile stone]

The poverty diet ain't healthy

[tight scroll]

if you starve yourself your body starts making fat deposits for the next starve

[tidal berry]

I was told that plenty of times, but the thing is, it kind of works (at a cost to your health and muscles), remarkably fast at that too. I think the real mistake is eating like garbage in the first place.

[sterile stone]

Remember being told you end up like those children on those old commericals about helping starving kids

[twin wagon]

Psyker players could use rubbers to exercise both of their arms while they smyke with their feet, great use of multitasking

[sterile stone]

Skinny arms and legs but a bloated gut

[naive stream]

Honestly you can eat like crap (not ideal) but you just have to find a way to burn it all up

[tight scroll]

thats basically what Im doing

I eat whatever I want and then go walk for an hour or more

hell when I get a VR, thatll also help burn some calories

[naive stream]

Yea cardio is a really good way to burn calories, but I don't think walking can help that much compare to running (but hey if it helps you then good)

[tidal berry]

I'd say counting calories will make you realize a lot of things.. Like for example a pack of nuts has the calories of a dying neutron star

[hidden grove]

they need to make a VR version of this game, where you have to swing a heavy sword irl

[frosty herald]

Ok so what you do is alot of light reps but a big amount like 30

[naive stream]

Honestly I don't do that I just eat and run a lot, like 3+ miles away

[vast basin]

Ogryn players have to be bodybuilders

[tight scroll]

tbf I live on a hill

[tidal berry]

I think walking is better actually, my lazy ass can still do 20k steps a day average but running? My knees will hurt in half an hour and my lungs will cry for mercy

[tight scroll]

so Im constantly going uphill and downhill, up stairs, etc.

its not just walking on flat terrain

[naive stream]

Yea I'm good I hate running up hills

[jovial cosmos]

Flat terrain is boring af tho

[frosty herald]

Argus is a big back

[naive stream]

Honestly yea that bound to happen for if your body isn't used to it, my advice (I'm not a licensed personal) is to slowly get into running more often like do a 1/2 miles and slowly build upon it

[naive stream]

True lol, but I got used to it lol

[jovial cosmos]

When you start running you need to alternate between running and walking

[mighty root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859788468178386944/1066523867159466026/caption.gif

[jovial cosmos]

So run for a few mins, walk for a few mins x3

[naive stream]

So kind of like sprints

[reef flower]

Is this chat still punished?

[jovial cosmos]

Pretty much, you phase out the walking over time

[frozen kernel]

Unironically I stopped playing VR shit for like a whole year and was quite a bit more sedentary as the novelty wore off. Booted up Contractors VR back in December and one server was running a 40k mod. I was sliding so much that for the next two days my quads were super sore and I couldn't figure out why until I realized that I went from doing fuck all, to just banging out like 250+ squats in a single night

[hidden grove]

wait that's why it's on slow mode?😅

[naive stream]

I've been running for a while so I don't walk as often anymore, but yea it's a good start on running.

[reef flower]

Due to some agressive tomfoolery

[mighty root]

they dont know about the freak off

[reef flower]

They are still innocent

Plush is typing an essay lmao

[reef flower]

When will this chat be forgiven, good sir

[tidal berry]

I think it probably doesnt help that I'm.. not really eating a lot lately. I've completely lost appetite, zero cravings for anything besides caffeine. Like yeah I could push myself for a run but I just... don't want to? Almost always just talk myself out of it and instead go walk or jog around for hours till my playlist ends

[reef flower]

Student/high schooler last year syndrome?

[tidal berry]

Graduated already but you could say I'm kind of like going through puberty again

[tight scroll]

maybe soon, maybe never
depends on the situation here

[reef flower]

Well im a high school last year

[reef flower]

Can we atleast have the gif perms back or the slowmode reduced pretty please

[spare talon]

Can we have this and by we I mean exclusively me only

[tidal berry]

don't get old, it sucks

[frosty herald]

What if darktide was in jamaica😂 😂 😂 😂

[hidden grove]

Link me the start good sir 👍

[reef flower]

[mighty root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859788468178386944/1066523867159466026/caption.gif

[tight scroll]

mayhaps with a possibility

[stone fern]

no make it worse

[hidden grove]

don't do it, you can't trust them zealots, just like I can't trust them in pubs without suicide charging into hordes

[reef flower]

Can we known when

[reef flower]

Shut up psyker before i turn you into bbq

[hidden grove]

See! They are violent and unruly

[tight scroll]

it shall come to you in a dream

[reef flower]

But will it last tho?

[tight scroll]

tbf we might see about lowering some restrictions, some problem users were banned/left

[reef flower]

You mean there are still problem users? I thought they were purged

[tight scroll]

idk, that'll depend on how people act afterwards. we'll deffo crack down on certain behavior more

[stone fern]

can we at somepoint get actual examples on what not to do?

[tight scroll]

most have

well, the rules lol, but we'll deffo have to keep an eye on like

the more sexual conversations

[reef flower]

Im surprised ppl do that

[hidden grove]

no way, I thought someone raged 😂

[tight scroll]

basically, remember that this is a public space and its for discussing a class in a game

offtopic convos are fine and they happen

[reef flower]

:D

[tight scroll]

we dont mind when it does

[hidden grove]

that's how this chat fell, by the temptation of Slaanesh? tsk tsk tsk 😂

[frosty herald]

500 page essay on why mhwilds is peak

[reef flower]

Some fell, some fought

[reef flower]

What even is that

[frosty herald]

😌

[vast basin]

I'm glad they listened to feedback and changed the glaive, the floor is lava

[frosty herald]

layered armor being automatically recieved when crafting high rank armor we have alpha and beta sets back photo mode

[acoustic dune]

ey ey zeaot
what if the sentioned psycher
hit you with that
fluoride stare

would you:
a. barrel them
b. drop kick there head
c. yes

[hidden grove]

Apparently they would sex them up 😂 😂 😂

[heady rapids]

psyker chat is next in line for slowmode and embed perms revoked 🙏

[stone fern]

banned response!!! you are only allowed to use ultra violence

[acoustic dune]

and this time its not my fault
(i swear i was behaving)

[grizzled aspen]

Nothing of value will be lost.

[sterile stone]

[umbral kindle]

🫃

[reef flower]

d. make a medium rare steak

[reef flower]

Equality for everyone

[jovial cosmos]

Cmon this is just because people moved from zealot to psyker chat

[ornate bone]

I found a certified Reddit build psyker telling me assail is bad and revolver is "fucking garbage compared to recon lasgun"

[lusty wren]

Everyone can have an opinion I suppose

[remote lark]

assail is amazing but recon lasgun is practically meta on psyker

[jovial cosmos]

Recon + scriers + quell on crit

[umbral kindle]

Assail is my favourite brand of shooter pesticide

[ornate bone]

Since when is recon meta when columnus exists?

[stone fern]

when recon buffs and columbus nerfs

[hidden grove]

since there is something called recoil

[ornate bone]

They actually gave recon finesse while I was out?

Okay I'm gonna have to search the patch notes a bit, because the recon I'm seeing and the columnus I'm seeing still have the columnus winning with fat crits

[jovial cosmos]

Its not about the crit dmg, but the frequency of them

[fast iron]

For the veteran particularly, more crits > more damage. Because crits give infinite ammo.

For the zealot, more crits mean, likely, more burn stacks from a blessing. but would likely be more debatable for zealot

[ornate bone]

The frequency is already more than enough on columnus, you can magdump bosses in SG as long as you have ammo

[hidden grove]

at the end of the day the main impactful difference between the two is recoil, aka range effectiveness

the columnus deletes things at close mid range but very bad at long range, recon have no recoil and can delete things at range

[hard nexus]

recon las guns are really bad at long range lmfao

[ornate bone]

Shooting random shit at a distance isn't a particularly great way to kill

The volume of fire and low recoil from the recons can burn through more ammo than simply doing a burst with the columnus and pulling the mouse down a bit

[hidden grove]

that mouse down bit only works at mid range, don't forget the accuracy is also bad with that gun

[ornate bone]

nnnno it isn't?

[hard nexus]

how it feels to spread misinformation

[carmine falcon]

fellas am i making a mistake by preferring the "torrent" varient of the recon or are the others "Better"

[ornate bone]

I dunno which one that is, I just like the brown one because the others fire too fast

[carmine falcon]

i swear not a single soul knows the names of the recons lmao
its the one that keeps on shooting for longer

[ornate bone]

Ah, that one

[hidden grove]

yeah no, just tested that gun again, absolute dogshit compared to recon at long range

even more so if it's a group rather than a single target

[prisma sigil]

Uh yeah we do "The fast laser one"

Why the FUCK did they add a 30 second slowdown to the class chat? What the fuck

[carmine falcon]

im gonna pull up the names of all 3 now

[prisma sigil]

WHY IS IT ONLY ZEALOT CHAT? FUCK THESE GUYS 😡

[hidden grove]

read up, chat's been turned into a Slaanesh cult hideout 😂

[prisma sigil]

I love collective punishment! I love being punished for shit I wasn't even here to see!

[carmine falcon]

there's 2 fast firing recons
MK VIc and MK XIV
which one

[prisma sigil]

XIV looks cooler symbolwise, that one

[carmine falcon]

ill give this one a spin later today then

[hidden grove]

it's the one with least dmg per shot, XII

[lusty wren]

Whats the point of the third variation, it does less damage, has less ammo??

[carmine falcon]

man the ironsights on the recon are so ass

[copper hawk]

Wpn customization mod my beloved

[prisma sigil]

You couldn't pay me to use the recon

[hard nexus]

a couple people were freaky
instead of banning them, they slowmoded chat

[carmine falcon]

i like the recon cause i like sci fi pew pew

[prisma sigil]

That makes sense, a guy in my town broke into a house and the police pepper sprayed everyone in the neighborhood instead of arresting him

[copper hawk]

I like agri brauto cuz it's almost space ak ,,

[copper hawk]

As god intended

[stone fern]

.t freaklord

[copper hawk]

t. edgelord

[stone fern]

.t cringelord

[prisma sigil]

Wow I just searched chat and its been slow mode for more than two weeks. Real fucking discord mod moment there

[drowsy steppe]

its kinda deserved really

[delicate shadow]

to be clear, the moderation team has not pepper sprayed any neighborhoods

[drowsy steppe]

hi incan 🙂

[hard nexus]

boooriiiing

[carmine falcon]

ok tested all 3 and they all melt things around the same speed
i dont see actual gameplay differences other than the speed of the pew pew
maybe its different on vet

[copper hawk]

One of the recons on vet does more damage against armor and pairs well with the rending talent and finesse iirc

[hard nexus]

.t Asshole

[hard nexus]

it’s mostly ammo efficiency and buff/debuff stack speed

faster firing means you stack brittleness faster, meaning faster crusher kills

[ornate bone]

I mean, we could just not use weapons at ranges they are bad at?d

[carmine falcon]

right but im gonna assume that's a vet thing cause i aint brittiling no armor with this gun on zealot

[copper hawk]

Yep

[hidden grove]

we were comparing those 2 guns in the context of gunpsyker

[prisma sigil]

You should, that would be over with faster than this slow down 😒

[hidden grove]

what else you going to use to take care of things at long range, assail?

[copper hawk]

Recon las is a meme on zeal

[prisma sigil]

You don't punish a handful of people by punishing hundreds.

[ornate bone]

Literally just going at a better range?

[copper hawk]

I use assail

[ornate bone]

With my wizard powers I cast the spell: "press W key"

[drowsy steppe]

I shall redeem thee

[hidden grove]

imagine there's a horde in front of you, and a group of reapers/gunners spraying everyone down at long range behind it, can't magically just "get closer" 😒

recon is a literal emperor sent long range purge staff

[limber trellis]

Geneva convention moment

[copper hawk]

Honestly if ur not using fgs or assail u have 2 use a secondary wpn but in that case, w how i play fgs w melee psyker, the screen clearing slash seems 2 deal w that problem

[ornate bone]

Kill the horde and then kill the gunners, or just ignore the horde and go kill the gunners

[carmine falcon]

i honestly like it but i just like pew pew weapons
its probably not the most optimal weapon tho for the skill tree but i dont use it that much anyway

[prisma sigil]

Best voice

[acoustic dune]

ok hear me out
what if
jerma is the emperor of mankind

[hidden grove]

fgs for close range, assail for mid range, gun for long range, perfect pairings

[grizzled aspen]

Kid named infernus:

[ornate bone]

Actually how the fuck are gunners even a problem for psyker? You have a talent to gain ranged immunity on crit, you can crit like a maniac under SG, and we're discussing two automatic weapons

[copper hawk]

I think i run voidblast or purg staff on my fgs build

[prisma sigil]

I hate that they renamed the staffs

[hidden grove]

you joking, that talent helps you get to cover safely it doesn't "peronal bubble" you, also your team doesn't have that talent

[ornate bone]

Cover? YOU ARE THE COVER, BROTHER

[prisma sigil]

The real answer is gunners aren't a problem for psykers who run shield

[hidden grove]

I wish, if you seen how fast bubbles pop in high havoc 😂

[ornate bone]

The literal air around you becomes the cover as long as you vaguely put your crosshair on the enemy's hitbox, empathic evasion with either of those weapons just turns you into a gunner slayer

[prisma sigil]

Depends on ur teamplay. Your buddies need to be killing them from inside. Shield seems necessary for 40 ngl I haven't won one yet without one on the team ( skill issue perhaps)

[ornate bone]

Unironically the main problem with psyker players thinking the class is not fit for being aggressive is because by being too passive they shun half of the class' survivability

[hidden grove]

oh it's absolutely neccessary, but it's there to buy you time to gun down gunners asap not giving you immunity to do whatever

[prisma sigil]

Oh yeah absolutely

[prisma sigil]

I feel like they want to be aggressive AND run all the utility.

[ornate bone]

What does "all the utility" entail?

[prisma sigil]

I feel shafted as a zealot because half the time I get saddled with Beacon of Purity and Chorus. Still good but my overall damage gets cut by like 300-500k compared to my charge builds

[ornate bone]

Even without SG I already have good empathic evasion uptime, and I can even use that to rush ranged enemies to put a bubble on top of them

If the player is cracked enough at aiming, which I don't imagine most people are, they can even replace assail with smite and still keep the aggressive playstyle by using stuff like warpfire to trigger soulstealer instead of assail spam

[prisma sigil]

Like I see psykers ignore the right half of the talent tree and grab shit like shield and smite then complain that they can't rush in and massacre everything. Tho tbh that's probably just a skill issue since literally the only thing you need to do a million damage in Havoc 40 is a purgatus staff

[grizzled aspen]

You can still do very respectable damage, even in h40, running beacon and chorus.

[prisma sigil]

Yes I know, I'll usually pull about 650 to 800, but it's a significant downgrade from going full offensive with charge

[grizzled aspen]

I've run martyrdom and broke 1m damage, it's not too difficult, you just have to play carefully. 81 toughness is the most you can get if you run 3 wounds btw.

[ornate bone]

Psykers unfortunately draw people with the "funny space wizard" fantasy and then they already treat the class as a basic MMO wizard before even starting to play it

[prisma sigil]

I should try more martyrdom builds I don't really play with extra wounds

[grizzled aspen]

Step 1 of beating h40 with both respectable damage and without dying is understanding enemies will come to you.

[ornate bone]

The smite spam psyker is the most iconic of the bunch, but you can also see players that try to solve everything with their staves and their brain lags when they can't

[grizzled aspen]

There's no real reason to invest a lot into pushing enemies when they will always come to you. Even if it doesn't seem like it, sit in one spot for a while, and gunners will reposition to get LOS on you before firing again.

[prisma sigil]

I mostly play safe because as beacon/chorus in a blight spreads match means if you go down, good chance your team dies b4 they can rescue you. I can still do good damage but I can feel the difference

[ornate bone]

Or players that only treat bubble as a "stand here and snipe the enemy" shield

[grizzled aspen]

Then you need to become both more familiar with your kit and confident in your approach.

Here's a tip. Run lower havoc lobbies, like 11-15, with your chorus and beacon to become more comfortable with it.

[prisma sigil]

I don't think it's possible for a chorus/beacon to do more damage than a benediction/charge build, I don't think it's a skill issue

I'm plenty comfortable with it the ceiling for what I can do offensively is just lower. I'm not calling it bad by any means

[copper hawk]

Yah it's not dont wrry man

[grizzled aspen]

No, you won't out dps a chastise setup, but that's not the argument being made. What is being argued is that you are still capable of very respectable damage despite not having chastise.

[ornate bone]

I'm not gonna say it's easy being aggressive because psyker's defenses being largely active means they can't slack while they're out in the carnage, while we have ezmode classes like vet who just click specials with a plasma gun or revolver and refills everyone's toughness every few seconds

[prisma sigil]

I never denied this, I fully agree.

[copper hawk]

U lose out on a lot of meowmentum, rending, and r kinda relegated to crit wpns for iod w chorus

[ornate bone]

But like, Jesus fucking Christ, psykers can and should push enemies instead of tunneling into the long-range caster meme

[copper hawk]

U also have like 10 seconds in a horde where u do no damage so ur rlly missing out every group fight

[grizzled aspen]

Not really on the crit weapons part. If you have enough cleave you can get scourge uptime pretty easily with piety. That's why relic blade scales so well.

[copper hawk]

That's the like one exception unfortunately

[prisma sigil]

I love smite because it can make the entire match easier as long as you use it well. If there's not a boss on the map and you're a smyker it's basically impossible to lose if you know what you're doing

[grizzled aspen]

Kid named cranial parasite:

[prisma sigil]

Seeing smykers neglect their smite to spam more staff damage in emergency situations gives me brain hernias

[grizzled aspen]

(enemies with parasites are unaffected by chorus and smite and cannot be suppressed)

[prisma sigil]

Are you sure? That's weird I feel like I should have noticed that

[grizzled aspen]

Yes I'm sure. I've stared a parasite reaper in the face while channeling chorus as he has dumped bullets into my teeth.

[prisma sigil]

Maybe cranial enemies die too fast for me to tell tbh, my vet buddy is always popping them like balloons

[grizzled aspen]

That's good, means he has good target acquisition. Parasite shooter enemies should always be the first of the shooters to go.

[near hamlet]

how do u guys build the relic blade? what is the dump stat and what perks and blessings to use

[prisma sigil]

Interesting info though ty idk how I didn't know that

[grizzled aspen]

Check the pins, lots of information on it.

[fleet zealot]

Ferret getting a little treat in psyker chat

[slow delta]

Is left side of Blazing Piety worth it? I like the idea of playing a more team-support priest but idk how good it actually is (the right chat this time lol)

[delicate shadow]

it's actually pretty decent

[hidden grove]

if you going support then it's 100% right side, the additional crit means more cd for books

[copper hawk]

Just stalwart rlly, which is more than worth it - especially if u pair it w other tdr

It also has a hidden stat that each kill gives u an additional 2% tness, probably a bug but cool hidden quirk

[azure stone]

Anybody can give me a comparison between the double barrel and combat shotguns and which one is better than the other?

[copper hawk]

Double barrel; flechette and manstopper. Does better damage

All the normal shotguns got power crept massively and the best of them unfortunately falls short of a db

[slow delta]

Aren't there diminishing returns the mroe you crit?

[slate haven]

Greetings

[violet hornet]

Here's what I use for mark 10: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dbb3dff-4759-499a-80aa-6f95e81981a9/havoc-support-zealot-4

[misty nova]

Nah
More crits means higher uptime on whatever crit talents

[spare dome]

They're incorrect. Smite still affects cranial enemies. Only nurgle blessing in Havoc is full stun immunity and cranial affects suppression which Smite does not do. Cranial does however increase the mass of enemies who possess it which makes Smite take marginally longer to stun the target

[prisma sigil]

See I didn't think that sounded right. Are u sure about nurgles tho? Iirc there's only pus hardened and blight spreads

[spare dome]

oh i meant nurgle blessing in Maelstroms* derp

[copper hawk]

[hard nexus]

erm,, what the derp

[copper hawk]

Erm what the flerp

[spare dome]

florp off you glorpers (idk i don't understand your language)

[misty ravine]

I recall reading some patch notes somewhere about Fatshark tweaking the pseudo-RNG on crit chance but can't go looking right now

[hard nexus]

dude what the fuck that’s not cool. why would you say that.

@copper hawk can you believe this???

[pale spindle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/JRt23dDgopE?si=ireBICSLzVCN4MwN

[stone fern]

🚬 when are we gonna get rotating modifiers on the mission board.
vent purge/power outage/toxgas/hounds could be rotated for different stuff

[solar gorge]

when will we get vent purge power outage toxgas all in one

[acoustic dune]

melee only

[misty ravine]

Final Destination

[stone fern]

power outage doesnt even work correctly.
the modifier is supposed to have random idle hoards that wait for you but they never spawn

[ornate bone]

Sniper gauntlet melee only no blitz

[stone fern]

🚬 what if we had enhanced melee or ranged

[copper hawk]

CHUM THIS GLOOPET AND FEED THEM 2 THE JOOB JOOBZ

[frosty herald]

You two are flargons

[misty ravine]

The Choomer vs the Gloorper

[spare dome]

never have my chooms been chummed as glorpin florpin hard as it has been by these gorp glorpin flip florpin floosers

[solar gorge]

scary stuff

[hard nexus]

truuuueeee!!

[sullen forge]

Holy racism…

[spare dome]

its not racism if they arent people

[lean lark]

did you see gore magala is coming to monster hunter wilds

[frosty herald]

nerscylla gore magala

[fleet zealot]

Ferret in psyker chat

[gaunt meadow]

is mk2 or mk4 thammer better

[stone fern]

ironhelm is easier to use but less damage

[gaunt meadow]

easier to use?

[violet hornet]

The ironhelm activated attack will cleave chaff until it hits a special, the crucis activated attack will only cleave a single groaner before stopping on the next target

[stone fern]

yeah heavies 1 and 2 are wide ranging sweeps makes landing shots easier

also that ironhelm active lets you clear better

[gaunt meadow]

oh ironhelm active cleaves i see, although mk2 heavy is already pretty good to clear

[ornate bone]

I prefer 2. The light head bops are nice and the sweep for hordes works well if you're set up for it

[gaunt meadow]

i just activate thammer whenever im running towards any enemy i can ping (besides snipers)

the head bops on light is great for just clearing spread apart tanky dudes, im running headtaker and whatever is the thing that gets you toughness when you hit 3 or more for the horde clear sustain

[ornate bone]

I use the damage on 3 hits If you have the extra toughness on kill talent should be plenty but that's assuming you're doing throwing knives

[copper hawk]

Holy shit kc d 2 is so peak

[violet hornet]

Using an activated light to open a bulwark and another to headshot it is so satisfying

[nimble fiber]

u guys watched the rebirth trailer yet?

[violet hornet]

Yep the heavy loop does okay at clearing chaff, it's definitely slower than most weapons at actually killing a horde but the knock back makes it manageable

[violet hornet]

Nope, what's this?

[fleet zealot]

Screaming ferret in psyker chat

[nimble fiber]

new jurassic world movie
(with changes from the book)

[gaunt meadow]

im debating between going the full wound zealot stealth giga bonk build or continuing on my cleansing aura relic support one, might give the zealot power sword a shot too

[limber trellis]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/193278651020738561/1147740425449381938/whar.gif

[violet hornet]

I might have to check this out 🤔

[nimble fiber]

yessir def gonna watch it in cinemas when it comes out

[violet hornet]

resisting urge to play ark again

[nimble fiber]

just to get a group running and for them to stop playing after max 1 week

[violet hornet]

Yep I have done it a couple times lmao

[hard nexus]

don’t. it sucks.

[nimble fiber]

u suck

[hard nexus]

that’s a great emote @nimble fiber, i need it

[nimble fiber]

I may have stolen it from u

[hard nexus]

you did not, because i don’t have it

[ornate bone]

bro really just said

[copper hawk]

[violet hornet]

I only play it on a private server, I learned my lesson from rust

[nimble fiber]

pvp in ark is ass imo

I only ever play it to go into dungeons or ride big tortoises

[violet hornet]

Riding the giant frog is pretty fun too, or using an argentavis to air lift and just drop random small creatures

[full nebula]

Instant deaths in havoc count against true survivor now

[violet hornet]

I managed to solo catch a giganotosaurus but it was quite the ordeal, never got it a mate

[nimble fiber]

lmao or running into an unfriendly rock that kills your baby
(I hate unfriendly rocks)

[violet hornet]

Titanoboas materializing from thin air to poison you when you least expect it

[nimble fiber]

funny cat jumping on u from seemingly peaceful trees

[violet hornet]

Or those damn pelican bird things stealing a full stack of narcotics, eating them, and somehow being completely unaffected

[nimble fiber]

oh yeah fuck them or their groundcounterpart

also jellyfish

[violet hornet]

Yeah they thief enemies are the worst lol, eat my face but leave my inventory alone damnit

Giant armored fish traveling 2 miles to ram your offensive raft to death

[nimble fiber]

the water in ark is truly terrifying

[violet hornet]

Welp there goes my urge to play the game lmao

[nimble fiber]

It do be like that

[violet hornet]

At least it's not the crazy thanksgiving turkeys that can take out a t rex

[median steeple]

Olpish rage

[nimble fiber]

those were awesome tho (if u saw em from a far)

[violet hornet]

All fun and games until your bronto smacks one hiding in the bushes lmao

Having 20 pterodactyls as a hit squad was pretty hilarious tho

[sullen forge]

Spawn, immediate Giganato

[nimble fiber]

until they had to nerfed flying speed

but tbh I never rly experienced it anyways since it was before my time

[glad stone]

what is the dumpstat on the combatblade?

[vague depot]

Mobility

[mental meadow]

So i'm new to zealot and have a love for the big bonk, anyone have any build reccomendations for massive bonking damage that i see? Like how you can nearly one shot a daemon host

[violet hornet]

Oh damn I wonder when they did that, I probably haven't played for at least 4 years

[nimble fiber]

actually quite early cause when I started playing, they must have just removed it

u ever tried the new ark?

[violet hornet]

I run this most of the time but it's more of a general use build that can kill a dh in 3 hits on damnation: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aae97b9-200f-4c8b-829a-27211f85fc86/bonk-13

[violet hornet]

Nah the reviews were looking pretty rough so I skipped it. Have you?

[violet hornet]

I did put together a shroudfield perfectionist martyrdom build that can one shot a dh on damnation but I dont have it in games lantern yet unfortunately

[nimble fiber]

nope haven't played it yet, but a buddy of mine that was one of the ark og's plays it from time to time and told me its in a good place

[violet hornet]

I'll definitely check that out, I know some of the people I wanted to play with said original ark felt too dated so maybe this could hook them too

Them water shaders on the island were just too wonky lol

[nimble fiber]

def wish ya good luck on that and that u may get a group that plays longer than 1 week

[nimble fiber]

I remember not being able to play crystal isles with our group cause some of them had slow platforms that couldn't run it lmao

[violet hornet]

Yep I had this problem on my old PC which ran just about every other map fine, too much for a i7-6700k and a GTX 1070

[tawdry leaf]

none of you are real, youre all in my head, darktide is just a figment of imagination in my head

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-durden-gif-22417509

[opaque island]

slow mode forever

[opal star]

hi this is your mind speaking, slide me 20 dollar

[tawdry leaf]

mimimimimimi

[copper hawk]

Evil figment

[violet hornet]

Day 2 of slow mode

[stone fern]

day -1 of slow mode

[violet hornet]

Day of slow mode

[copper hawk]

Day 45 of chum mode

[violet hornet]

Posting until sire melk changes his name to sire milk

[sullen forge]

Evil giggle fish when?

[nimble fiber]

what is the lore behind

[solar gorge]

udderific

[violet hornet]

Dev blogpost referred to the talent tree introduction update as the "teats and udders" update since that's how they saw the talent tree structure

[nimble fiber]

[spare talon]

@delicate shadow what

[nimble fiber]

incan pls tell us what your favorite dinosaur is

[solar gorge]

the bronchitius

[delicate shadow]

if you know, you know

(it's deep lore from a very old community post)

[stone fern]

🚬 if its so old then how come were only seeing it now after @kind estuary rediscovered it

[lusty turtle]

its like a year old now

[delicate shadow]

I forget if they're strictly dinosaurs but Mosasaur is very cool and the stuff of nightmares

[spare talon]

Like vermintide old or

[lusty turtle]

they are not dinosaurs you fail

[lusty turtle]

from just before patch 13

[spare talon]

I don't think I looked at anything community related outside of this discord before 13

[delicate shadow]

Marzi would kill me if she knew this

[stone fern]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dev-blog-class-overhaul/82971
The principle of “the udder and the teats” was born. It’s a very cow-based metaphor and perhaps not the most sensible one but it worked. Higher up in the talent trees, within the “udder”, players are free to tinker and pick their path, narrow or broad

[lusty turtle]

Mats

[spare talon]

I remember this now

[nimble fiber]

they are dinosaurs in my book
(I know its something else similar to pteranodon's who weren't dinosaurs but extinct flying reptiles or something)

[copper hawk]

KC:D 2 I SO FUCKING PEAK !!!! IT'S SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE FIRST !! IT RUNS ON LAUNCH !! NO BUGZ !! DOESNT CRASH !! RUNS LIKE BUTTER !!!!!!

[median steeple]

deals with the devil have been made

[nimble fiber]

butter dog dog wit the butter on em

[frosty herald]

It makes complete sense if you think about it

[stone fern]

NO IT DOESNT ITS A TALENT TREE
BRANCHES > FRUITS
why do they gotta make everything weird

[kind estuary]

It popped up in "TOP EMOJI IN DARKTIDE" for some reason. So did the corpse starch emoji.

[stone fern]

cookies and milk checks out

[kind estuary]

🫡

[fleet zealot]

Peets being posted in psyker chat

Ferret peets specifically

[grizzled aspen]

Chat what kind of subway sandwich do I get today?

[stone fern]

🚬 nothing you should eat something else

[solar gorge]

let's make number 1

[median steeple]

black forest ham with bacon and whatever you want on it

Bacon sandwiches are peak.....

[stone fern]

bread and 20 additions of beacon

[nimble fiber]

Im gonna ask u again whenever I go there, cause Im always confused what to order and end up going somewhere else

[stone fern]

they have menues with preselected stuff just ask for one and maybe replace something

[nimble fiber]

but what if they just kill me for choosing the preselected stuff

[stone fern]

then you kill them first

[solar gorge]

Schwarzwälder Schinken, Meine Geliebte

[stone fern]

god even nice things sound awful in that language

[solar gorge]

very fond of that emote, weed1

[stone fern]

"Geliebte"

[nimble fiber]

its very simple and forward indeed

[wind dagger]

german sounds way better than it looks

[stone fern]

generations of mispronouncing stuff

[nimble fiber]

if spoken right and not with a goofy a accent

[stone fern]

northern accents are alright

[solar gorge]

clad you are hungarian or something

[stone fern]

or something but i stayed in germany long enough to know 🚬

[solar gorge]

romanian

[wind dagger]

my ancestors are from hungary

[stone fern]

eine fischbrotschen bidde

[solar gorge]

czech

[nimble fiber]

things that were once peak and now just overpriced slop

[wind dagger]

they wound up in america during ww2

[copper hawk]

Kc d 2 ,,

[solar gorge]

everyone should be playing kcd2 rn i agree

[nimble fiber]

would never
(I think)

[grizzled aspen]

That with turkey and a bunch of greens is my go-to pick.

[solar gorge]

the black plague on your descendants

[twin wagon]

Fellow shouties, when are you all getting nerfed

[stone fern]

no salami, no bacon, no cucumbers,,,, why does frog have no taste?

[nimble fiber]

because he's a frog

[solar gorge]

he eat ze bugs, with a side of soy

[grizzled aspen]

It literally has bacon on it, you gremlin.

[stone fern]

🚬 who wakes up and says i wanna have a turkey sandwich.
turkey is for people trying to save money or go on a diet

[grizzled aspen]

It's ham, turkey, and bacon, with a bunch of vegetables because my local subway actually has good vegetables that don't make your sandwich soggy.

[stone fern]

ok i take it back

[solar gorge]

my meal was an Apple and about 50 grams of rice leftover because i'm lazy

[stone fern]

you know what goes hard on sandwiches tho? bell peppers you really wouldnt expect it but shits fire

[grizzled aspen]

Wouldn't you know it, I have those on my sandwich.

[nimble fiber]

hi lazy how r u doin?

[stone fern]

i kneel.... frog is gonna go to sandwich heaven....

[solar gorge]

very good i love abples

[nimble fiber]

I 2 love abples
very good indeed

[grizzled aspen]

Brother if I did not have the willpower to go back to work and finish my shift I would take a nap in this chair, that sandwich was so fuckin good.

[copper hawk]

I love to eat a a a apples and banaynays

[grizzled aspen]

Also mmm abpls... sprinkle salt on them to make them 50 gorillion times better...

[copper hawk]

I love to eat i i i ipples and bininis, do u guys rember this from grade school

[nimble fiber]

what

[solar gorge]

mental breakdown

[tight fog]

[grizzled aspen]

Who is fearful of salt on abpls... show yourselves, cowards...

[nimble fiber]

I normally hate the combination of sweet and salty with a few exceptions

[grizzled aspen]

It's peak. Try it.

[solar gorge]

stan tier

[nimble fiber]

I dont know man, Im afraid to try it cause it sounds like it would disappoint me

[grizzled aspen]

Slice an apple up into equal pieces, sprinkle salt on the slices, enjoy a light snack. It's excellent as a post workout refresher, since your muscles need the salt and the apples have a lot of natural sugar.

[solar gorge]

@hushed knoll he's trying to outdo you

[grizzled aspen]

Brother, salted apples are normal.

[nimble fiber]

the kraken has been summoned

[solar gorge]

it's normally reserved for the mentally deranged

[grizzled aspen]

Good thing I'm not mentally deranged! Only broken inside, here.

[sullen forge]

I love to play in mud and eat sand

[violet hornet]

I will salt you, frog

[grizzled aspen]

You're too weak for your salt to affect me.

[nimble fiber]

what happens if u salt a frog

[grizzled aspen]

I have 1500 hours on for honor and 500 hours on destiny 2, most of which were pvp. My salt is stronger than yours by leagues and bounds.

[violet hornet]

Apparently he's already high mileage and salty so I guess you just get frog

[solar gorge]

as I said, the mentally deranged

[grizzled aspen]

Now tell me exactly what item my about section takes the text from.

[nimble fiber]

saltyfrog frog wit the salt on em

[violet hornet]

I have over 2k hours on league of legends and a similar amount on eve online

[grizzled aspen]

So you're a racist, gotcha.

[solar gorge]

your honour, league of legends

[violet hornet]

But I don't main ogryn 🤔

[grizzled aspen]

League of legends makes you racist, this is a fact.

[violet hornet]

Fucking yordles, I fucking hate them

[wind dagger]

i wish for honor wouldn't have been fumbled so badly early on

[hushed knoll]

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU

[nimble fiber]

lmao

[hushed knoll]

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/cheesy-pei-cheese-fountain-pregnant-pregnancy-craving-gif-11848670

[wind dagger]

that's not that outlandish honestly; people put fucking ketchup on their eggs and most people don't bat an eye

[north sedge]

Oh man the name of that link is even better than i could have imagined

[solar gorge]

pregnant pregnancy

[grizzled aspen]

For honor dropped the ball, d2 slam dunked that shit directly into the concrete.

[wind dagger]

there are d2 millions of d2 players that will never get to do the leviathan

[pale spindle]

I thought D2 was "dying.mp4"? 🤔

[nimble fiber]

slam dunked it into concrete cause the soccer goal that they had vanished with the farm

[grizzled aspen]

Step 1 to correcting destiny as a franchise, retcon the entire 2nd game and start the fuck over. Red war had an interesting concept but was executed poorly. You mean to tell me that Ikora had literally zero idea the red legion existed, with her "omnipotent" Hidden agents?

Lightfall couldve also been good but was clearly rushed and they could have EASILY taken the grim turn the franchise needed there.

[hushed knoll]

[violet hornet]

Love that I out salted frog so hard he changed the subject

[mental meadow]

Much appreciated

[wind dagger]

I still can't believe destiny 2 is coming up on eight years

[grizzled aspen]

Witch Queen writers should have been given a raise.

[nimble fiber]

I still can't believe it has players that still play it

[grizzled aspen]

Peak expansion, actually worth the money I spent on it. Same with forsaken, when the content was still around. The rest of the expansions can kick rocks.

[carmine falcon]

is emperror's bullet any good if i run Dbarrel? on paper it sounds good but idk if it actually translates to big dmg in gameplay

[wind dagger]

constant revolving door of f2p players

[stone fern]

impact is never really worth it

[nimble fiber]

true

[stone fern]

and you can get the attackspeed with a better uptime from faithful frenzy

[carmine falcon]

i dont even know what impact means i just saw 30% something and went wooohhaaa

[stone fern]

it makes you stagger stuff more

[spare dome]

emp bullet pretty much only works with the dbarrel or the agrip revo yea

[carmine falcon]

that sounds good for mixed hordes?

[spare dome]

option three is cheesing the combat shotguns and revolver by never loading in more than one shot but that's like, really overdoing it

[stone fern]

impact doesnt really translate into more cleave if thats what you're asking

[carmine falcon]

nah i hate the slow reload on both

[spare dome]

as a single point offering though its only really viable on the dubbarrel. if youre going down middle tree then its a bit more okay since you're going to be grabbing Hammer of Faith as well, so 30% global impact + another 30% when emp bullet procs

[carmine falcon]

alright thanks i'll just leave it be for now until i try martydom

[grizzled aspen]

Emperor's bullet fucking sucks. Attempting to get value out of that talent on purpose is a bad idea.

[violet hornet]

Give zealot the rumbler and kickback just for emperor's bullet

[carmine falcon]

bunch of talents on zealots feel like those weird %5 extra poison dmg when your enemy does a backflip for 2.45 seconds type shit
like wtf is Desperation even

[wind dagger]

i have to wonder sometimes whether the people that designed some of these talents actually imagined a use case for them or if they just puked them out onto a piece of paper

[carmine falcon]

prolly works in some funny build that no one actually uses cause its shit

[copper hawk]

A mix of both, mby more puke - look at how the middle row of zealot talent trees have a talent at the top, the one on the left they forgot and just put two nodes

[grizzled aspen]

Desperation is actually pretty good on weapons that have good push attacks.

Crusher, mk3 evisc, mk2 relic blade, knives, rashad, taxes...

[carmine falcon]

oh damn im clueless again
guess i'll try it in psychanium
description just sounds weird cause im literally never out of stamina during combat lol

[wind dagger]

I rarely PA wish the rashad of feels like

[spare dome]

keep in mind it's not +20% damage only when out of stamina -- you just have to hit 0 and then you've got it for five seconds. if you can flutter your stamina you basically have sustained assault 2.0

[copper hawk]

Gonna put what i mean in #darktide-pics-vids

[carmine falcon]

this sounds kinda decent when you put it that way
abuse push attacks until stamina depletes and get extra 20%

[stone fern]

rashad PA can stagger ragers pretty well

[misty ravine]

Probably a combination of:

• Quota-filling, trying to fill talent trees and running out of good ideas (then running out of any ideas in Zealot's case, as mentioned above) before they run out of vacant spots
• Programmers not understanding the game well enough to design good talents or give them the right numbers
• Designers not understanding the code well enough to design good talents or give them the right numbers
• A cautious approach where they try to opt for more things to be underpowered than overpowered
• Balance being a low priority compared to bug fixing and adding content (let alone working on other projects)

[stone fern]

🚬 the people who made zealot middle tree nodes can not be the same people who made until death and duelist

[violet hornet]

Zealot should have a passive that scales damage with how loudly you have yelled "for the emperor" into the mic in the last 30 seconds

[queen oyster]

[stone fern]

YES

[wind dagger]

some stuff is probably a port of perks and talents from v2 which would explain why some of them feel like they were designed for a different game

[stone fern]

i would scream litanies on the mic for a .001% damage buff idc

[violet hornet]

(it doubles while you are still yelling)

[misty ravine]

Maybe the old Ivory Tower Game Design but I seriously doubt many designers have the expertise to pull this off intentionally, rather than come up with it as an after-the-fact cope

https://www.reddit.com/r/dndnext/comments/fx0ms0/ivorytower_game_design_read_this_quote_from_monte/

(TLDR: the objective is to reward players with "system mastery" who know how to pick the "correct" options and reject the others)

[stone fern]

its okie trust the plan next monday were gonna get a zealot tree rework and an ogryn tree rework and everything is gonna be great and well all eat candy and nuts

[misty ravine]

Just Two More Patches

[stone fern]

two more patches to flatten the active player curve

[misty ravine]

Savage

[wind dagger]

I wouldn't believe it if FS said this was their design philosophy having seen them repeat mistakes again and again and again over the years

[misty ravine]

I wouldn't either, like I said I usually doubt that it's done intentionally

While I understand (and still enjoy) the satisfaction of being able to look at a pile of components and reason out for myself what they are for and what is the best thing I can build out of them, it's surely taken as a given nowadays that everyone will flock to YouTube etc. to tell them what the meta builds are

Come to think of it, that's probably why they don't seem to consider accurate talent descriptions to be a high priority—they assume most players don't read them anyways and (if they don't have a very conspicuous effect) wouldn't know if they were working as advertised anyways

[wind dagger]

(ironically that's the best way to get a shit build for this game)

[hybrid jewel]

Does not work right because I'm a woman and asian as usual.

[misty nova]

Hot mic update lmao

[potent gate]

You heard it here first. Karien said women don't work.

[hybrid jewel]

Read the context, you potato!

[remote lark]

Gmm

[misty ravine]

Just blow into the mic to make a "loud" sound like when the first DS games came out and designers felt they had to use every part of the hardware

[spare talon]

we dont even know what that word means

[remote lark]

I'm sleepy

[misty ravine]

A potato is a root vegetable, sometimes used to describe a stupid or ignorant person. But that's not important right now

[stone fern]

she clearly meant that asians cant scream

[fleet zealot]

Yes, the talents are 3 careers worth of feats and then some more nodes

[misty ravine]

Certainly, no asian has ever screamed "For The Emperor" before a charge

[hybrid jewel]

No, reeeeeeeeeeee! I mean I played Binary Domain and the voice recognition thing constantly failed.

[spare talon]

no not that one, the other one given the messages....... hm.... i dont quite know how to say it

[remote lark]

Cole ur bumpy weird

[atomic matrix]

Have you tried having more faith in the Emperor of Mankind? (Or the omnisahia)

[stone fern]

🚬 Binary Domain.... havent heard that in forever
t@misty ravine the khan is asian....

[spare talon]

im smooth normal actually

[hybrid jewel]

Was given free or something ages ago so played it.

[stone fern]

ye its a great game its a shame companies dont make games with new concepts like that anymore

[ornate bone]

smoothie

[hybrid jewel]

Problem was they pushed voice recognition that could only understand white american male voices or something.

[stone fern]

it was only for squad commands right? i played it and never used the voice recognition

[hybrid jewel]

Yep. You could order teammates to do specific things. Or reply to them.

[stone fern]

eh game was still great without it i really should replay it at somepoint

[tawdry leaf]

We having the worst sleep schedules ever wit this one 🗣️

[violet hornet]

Just pretend you saw someone not wash their rice before cooking

[atomic matrix]

Wait you should wash it? I lived a lie for years so far

[violet hornet]

Depends where you are on earth, some places have methods of cleaning their rice beforehand but Asia has been washing rice since time began so it's a habit that remains unbroken in some places

[hybrid jewel]

What in the bloody Nine Hells? Someone ban him from kitchens and any job relating to food and food products now!

[violet hornet]

If you have "enriched rice" it has a nutrient powder on it you're not supposed to wash off

[sullen forge]

Just straight up murder them

[violet hornet]

Don't worry the unwashed rice will do it soon enough

[frosty herald]

Unwashed rice has more nutrients🤫

[hybrid jewel]

Extra iron, you mean?

[atomic matrix]

I'm 165385628926 rice grains from my deserved death

[sullen forge]

Mmmmm yummy

[spare dome]

you dont really expect me to wash every one of these grains of rice do you

[atomic matrix]

Would you do it for the Emperor?

[spare dome]

no

[frosty herald]

Grab rice grab a sifter and clean it

[atomic matrix]

Yes, Ordo inquisitorium? This man right there

[hybrid jewel]

Failure... You banned from cooking asian cuisine.

[atomic matrix]

I cry there is no redemption from this disgraceful act (failed to commit sudoku)

[violet hornet]

Are you telling me a shrimp washed this rice?

[grizzled aspen]

"You don't understand, I was supposed to be a streamer and play darktide!"
"WASH THE FUCKING RICE!"

[violet hornet]

You wash the rice or I set your default search engine to bing

[hybrid jewel]

No, default browser to Google Chrome.

[spare dome]

but theyre so tiny ;_; and so many

[violet hornet]

Bold of you to assume I have not already

[violet hornet]

Rice, the culinary hormagaunts

[stone fern]

@gleaming hawk tell em

[gleaming hawk]

Wat

[hybrid jewel]

Lies. Washing rice gets rid of extra starch leading to fluffier rice, not gummy rice!

[gleaming hawk]

Oh, that's a long slowmode, lmao, Zealot chat, wat u do

and yes, unwashed rice does have more nutrients (some of them not so nutritious)

[stone fern]

your rice theory about arsenic

also i got a banned word in the message can someone tell me why schiz theory is banned?

[gleaming hawk]

I mean, it's not hugely a theory, it's more "I read a scientific paper and it is legit"
https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-find-new-way-of-cooking-rice-that-removes-arsenic-and-retains-nutrients/

That article has basically all the info needed. Wow, this slowmode sucks.

[atomic matrix]

"I feel so enlightened on this many erudites on the art of rice that I'm inspired to do good, to do better, to wash every rice with the devotion of an Imperial Custodes to apeace our Savior Karien, who made me see the wrong of my acts and the rice light"
-me who barely eats rice because office work

[stone fern]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis

[gleaming hawk]

I'm aware science has its issues, but it's also an issue if you don't read a single thing and just chock it all as 'theory'. Like, most of the issues talked about are blatantly obvious with a little critical thinking and some scientific background.

[stone fern]

🙄 and what are your credentials science man

[gleaming hawk]

A Bachelor's, and a phd in progress.

[stone fern]

in which field?

[gleaming hawk]

Computer Science

[stone fern]

lmao and i have one in electrical engineering neither of us are the authority on rice

[hybrid jewel]

All I care about is fluffy white rice. Asian cuisine want fluffy white rice to go with the main dishes.

[violet hornet]

Where my rice engineers at

[stone fern]

if anything you should know more about the amount of slop being shoveled into academia

[gleaming hawk]

Wat, I said some scientific background to vet sources, who said anything about authority on rice?

[hybrid jewel]

Unwashed rice means starchy gummy non-fluffy rice. So bad.

[stone fern]

meow meow meow oorah.gif

[hybrid jewel]

So wash your rice and use a rice cooker.

[stone fern]

a great tragedy when a man can not post his favorite gif of a cat twerking...

[gleaming hawk]

Imagine washing rice when you could parboil it

[violet hornet]

Yum I love slop

[remote lark]

Hi Jawa furry

[stone fern]

🚬 the better question is: ||what can YOU do to improve garbage collection functionality in lua scripts||?

[remote lark]

use python instead

[stone fern]

tell that to fatshark

[violet hornet]

Hi lumii :3

[remote lark]

Me resisting the urge to ping strawhat

[stone fern]

unironically tho im sure like 90% of darktide mods could use a little optimizing

[modern lintel]

what are mods anyway

[gleaming hawk]

stop using lua

[stone fern]

🚬 🚬 🚬 tell that to fatshark

[gleaming hawk]

I mean, there's something to be said about ease of programmability. LUA is easy to use, that's why modding is quite active despite the small playerbase compared to other games that have much larger bases but much fewer mods. It's a give and take.

[violet hornet]

Do it you coward

Hawk Lua, script on that thang

[sullen forge]

Hawk tuah in the big 25, skin him alive

[hushed knoll]

HI CLAD ILY

[mental meadow]

I forgot to ask but as far as large damage potential, is the thammer still viable or is it outclassed? I see allot of videos on it that seem to be quite old (the earliest i saw being 3 months ago)

Has there been any changes for it that make it compare better to other big sticks/swords versus things like crusher & bosses?

[stone fern]

hi

[stone fern]

for single attacks? thammer is still unmatched however i think relic can out dps it if not then a close second

[mental meadow]

Wondering more so about clearing out heavy specials like crushers and ragers.

[stone fern]

when did you last play thammer?

thammer took a hit to carapace damage when chastise was changed from armor downgrade to rending but they later buffed up its carapace damage

[mental meadow]

I am still leveling my zealot (they are only 16) so i'm still missing a large part of the perks to build aswell as mastery for it, and my familiarity for the class

But to answer the question yesterday

[remote lark]

it's ok

relic blade is better overall even though the thammer oneshots all regular enemies

give it a shot

[stone fern]

ironhelm needs a bit to one tap crushers however the other thammer can do it with ease

imo thammers are easier to use than relic blades

[remote lark]

imo die

[visual stream]

Thammer is still #1 in single hit damage. I wouldn't use it to clear ragers unless you're forced to

[stone fern]

what they are easier to use

[mental meadow]

I just like the fantasy of bigus bonkus

[violet hornet]

If you like bonking stuff check out the crusher, there's a guide for it in the pins

Doesn't have the one hit potential on most large targets but it's great at knocking stuff over and still does pretty good damage

[mental meadow]

I love the greatsword for psycker and im definitely excited to get my relic blade for zealot since i found i was just mainly using psycker to run into enemies and turn them to minced heretics, and then i realized i should probably play zealot to enhance my melee time, and they have a bunch of cool melee weapons

[uneven galleon]

Who needs relic blade when you have a crusher

[stone fern]

so tru so tru

[uneven galleon]

Their light and heavy attacks unconditionally hit anything including flak and carapace

[mental meadow]

I was messing with the crusher aswell, i like it aswell, its just a bit lacking for impact for me but i'll have to re-evaluate it later

[remote lark]

Crushes u with mind

[stone fern]

what mind?

[uneven galleon]

And its empowered special can knock a bulwark

[carmine falcon]

take the skullcrusher slaughterer pill
knockmaxx everyone

[uneven galleon]

furry spotted, opinion rejected

[mental meadow]

Just knock everyone on the ground ey?

[visual stream]

No double impact blessing with Hammer of Faith and Grievous Wounds, are you even actually knockmaxxing?

[stone fern]

can we remove impact from zealot tree? like all of it

[visual stream]

Replace all of it with even more reload speed perks, surely this will enable ranged zealot gameplay to finally flourish
Sainted Gunslinger S tier and we need more

[stone fern]

i have no opinions just replace it with anything else oh yeah also no suppression

[north sedge]

Coherencey regen baby

[grizzled aspen]

Point tax weapon, need grievous wounds to stagger ragers out of combo.

[fleet zealot]

Ugh i have the urge to play bistol vet but my pc is still out of commission

I wanna spam frag nades and pop heads

[stone fern]

melee? ragers? no we knife them to the head

[vocal snow]

what do you put on curios for havoc?

[violet hornet]

wound curious without martyrdom using +curio chance, + experience, +dockets perks

oh sorry +grimoire resist would be more useless, you could drop +exp for it

[wind dagger]

i use stam regen gunner resist and revive speed

[nimble fiber]

[violet hornet]

Here's a shroudfield bonk build: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e248890-aed8-4867-a37b-9e0a2eeafb70/shroudfield-bonk-meme

[violet hornet]

dis what I actually use: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dbb3dff-4759-499a-80aa-6f95e81981a9/havoc-support-zealot

[copper hawk]

YO MAMA

[frozen kernel]

Spits on ur router

[opal star]

"here's a shroudf-" 😴

[keen pendant]

best way to do penance where you need privet game and heresy mission under 20min with only 25% of hp

[frozen kernel]

Rolling Steel (Train Mission)

[opal star]

rolling steel + fire barrel

[keen pendant]

thx will try that

[opal star]

or just let yourself get doinked by the ogryn that damn near always spawns at the first section

[frozen kernel]

Be careful, frequently a squad of shotgunners spawn as well

[keen pendant]

do stuff that give extra wound help me ?

[violet hornet]

I've never used it in a mission, but they did ask for one

[violet hornet]

it's under 1 wound of health, if you don't bring any extra wounds you'll have 2 on heresy so you just need to be under half hp for 75% of the mission iirc

[hybrid jewel]

No. Get more raw HP.

[keen pendant]

so more pure hp on talismans ok

[obsidian prairie]

Toughness is typically better

[keen pendant]

aha ok

[obsidian prairie]

But anything is better than extra wounds (unless you run martyrdom)

[hybrid jewel]

Can be both. Just don't go wounds.

Hp just lets you take more chip while under the wound without going down, toughness has you take less when you get chipped. Either way works or go both in the middle. Curios are best used to fill what you find you need tbh.

[misty ravine]

Extra Wounds is not just lost opportunity but is actively hurting them for that penance.

You need to be at one wound so more wound curios is cutting max health to a smaller fraction, on top of not having that +HP instead

[keen pendant]

i get hp req and time limit but why must be private game

[misty ravine]

Too many complaints of randoms trying to do it in pubs

[hybrid jewel]

Cos speedrunning is kinda a troll move in pugs at most parts.

[keen pendant]

i did it with randoms years ago on game pass 😄

[misty ravine]

Speedrunning, being at 1/2 health all game, and leaving if you die

[hybrid jewel]

It's not fun if everyone doesn't agree or build for it.

[keen pendant]

ok fair will try tomorow

[spare talon]

whats funny is dying doesnt fail the penance

[hybrid jewel]

But the timer thing might be messed up so...

[misty ravine]

Never even knew that lmao

[keen pendant]

150 stealth kill is bigger pain then this one

and overwatch for veteran resta rest for veteran are easy

[copper hawk]

DONT MALK EMOT ME I KILLZ U

[mental meadow]

Thanks

[visual stream]

Marvel Rivals needs to start the game by forcing you into bot matches where you have to play different roles

[north sedge]

No only spiderman

[visual stream]

At least two bot matches where you semi-learn 2 of the 3 roles and steamroll the bots and get it over with so we don't have so many DPS insta-lockers and Moon Knight OTPs

[median steeple]

Spiderman doesn't kill

[north sedge]

One of my favorite matches was when we were losing a dps demanded i get off healer because I clearly didn't know how to play. So anyway we lost even worse

[hybrid jewel]

Don't they realise they get to do the dook they do because they have a support/healer keeping then going?

[north sedge]

Oh he changed to healer and did infinitely worse

[hybrid jewel]

Well, at least it ends faster to move to the next.

[north sedge]

Yea, it was just funny

[hushed knoll]

GET WRITTEN LAMAZE

[frozen kernel]

Way way back at launch when it was bugged where so long as you lasted like 25s with low HP you could just die in the first room, completely fail the mission, and get the penance

[copper hawk]

I LOVE THE XMEN 97 SHOW !!!!!

[copper hawk]

Fun fact: MK, w bodyshots and if the target is near at least 1 more enemy, can get his ult in 7 seconds w continued hits :3

I hope they add Rogue

[nimble fiber]

[copper hawk]

And Thanos

[visual stream]

Yeah he needs a rework to be a not braindead character

[tawdry leaf]

2nd furry spotted, existence irrelevant

[sterile stone]

@spare dome Are you on darktide atm

[naive wharf]

just got revanent done on a whim

[fleet zealot]

Sleep ferrrts posted in psyker chat

[remote lark]

3rd furry spotted, explode

[hybrid jewel]

You mean the classic Sat am cartoon? Or did they do something?

[nimble basin]

What would be a solid "god roll" Dueling sword to aim for stat wise?

[hybrid jewel]

Dump cleave damage/defence. You can also dump mobility. Pen dump only for meme DS5.

[nimble basin]

Bet

[hybrid jewel]

Just stating the truth though.

[nimble basin]

I mean I am sorta new build wise in the game so I really don't know lmao.

[hybrid jewel]

I just remember things tbh.

[tawdry leaf]

mimimimimimimi

[spare dome]

ye

[sterile stone]

You a zealot named happycamper?

[spare dome]

nein

[sterile stone]

Noted.

[spare dome]

ive got a default name, cevera

[sterile stone]

Level 1200 something right?

[spare dome]

idk dont got true level lmao

[copper hawk]

The new one they made in 2024

[hybrid jewel]

Never saw that then, only the classic.

[spare dome]

i think i played a maelstrom with someone named happycamper

[sterile stone]

Yeah came across you two, not bad feller.

We had like 3-4 people join before you and just flop and rage quit.

[spare dome]

ah okay thank god that was the match before last, cause my last was terrible lmao

[sterile stone]

Yeah I was trying to get better with psyker but it felt like everything that could go wrong did go wrong.

[spare dome]

i suuuuucked, i think i psyker'd all the zealot out of me

[remote lark]

i'm really enjoying assail psyker
ending every game with like a thousand kills

[spare dome]

its super fun and it flows great

[sterile stone]

Atleast you didn't fold like I did, any chance a boss got to launch me over a railing

I got launched over a railing like 3 times to a slam I tried to dodge out of.

[remote lark]

i love getting revived as a poxburster is jumping on my teammate
kaboom!

[delicate shadow]

just don't get downed

[tawdry leaf]

exactly, kinda a skill issue tbh @remote lark

[remote lark]

i got pvp'd

[naive wharf]

unesen assasin:125/150
behind enemy lines:175/200
not bad progress considering iv just been doing heresy quickplays

knifes working pretty good for it so far, so i feel like i spent all that moneh on a good axe for nothing

starting to like the knife more then the sword however all things considered, just dont like stealth

what blessigns/perks for combat knife on zealot btw? iv got unyielding carapace and uncanny lacerate atm

[remote lark]

mk6 takes uncanny lacerate or precog/riposte and flak/unyielding
mk3 takes precog/riposte and flak/uny

[hybrid jewel]

Mk 6 Uncanny Fleshtearer/Lacerate.

[obsidian prairie]

I wouldn’t recommend uncanny lacerate unless you really know what you’re doing

[naive wharf]

i figured it works well with scourge, since crits add blead, non weak-spot hits add blead, and hits on something bleeding means more crit chance, so its a feedback loop
and uncanny helps the bleed do more, as well as more against carapace

[fleet zealot]

Just go flesh tearer

[obsidian prairie]

It requires intensive management of a 3 second stack

[fleet zealot]

Knife has high crit rate baseline to sustain scourge whenever it is needed

[obsidian prairie]

You have to keep uncanny up to deal damage with bleed while also actual activating lacerate

[naive wharf]

ig so, what about mercy killer then?

[fleet zealot]

Lacerate does not make up for the damage loss for not hitting weakspots

[obsidian prairie]

Only works on vet

It’s an even more extreme antisynergy

[hybrid jewel]

Cos they have serrated blade.

[naive wharf]

huh, is it bugged or something?

[fleet zealot]

You aren’t a vet with serrated blade talent run precognition literally twice as good and stacks well with duelist

[hybrid jewel]

Vets get a guaranteed bleed on hit.

[fleet zealot]

No vet can just use mercy killer consistently and they don’t try reaching the peaks we can go for

[obsidian prairie]

It require you hit heads, which means you need to hit a body shot and then a headshot to get benefit
Vet has a talent that gives 1 bleed on all swings

[naive wharf]

so replace lacerate with flesh tearer, and replace uncanny with precog?

[hybrid jewel]

No. Never take away uncanny.

[fleet zealot]

No? You need uncanny for bleed blessings

It’s the only way to get close to the level of real knife builds

[hybrid jewel]

Wait a sec, slow mode 15 secs now?

[naive wharf]

uncanny stays then, mk 3, uncanny + flesh tearer

[obsidian prairie]

I wouldn’t recommend bleed in general for knife

[fleet zealot]

You should be going uncanny +precog or riposte, or riposte+uncanny with piety build going down it’s right path

[obsidian prairie]

Raw numbers usually perform better

[naive wharf]

perks im using are unyielding + carapace for dealing with bulwarks, reapers, and crushers mroe effectively

[obsidian prairie]

Also, 15 seconds!!!!!
We did it!!!!

[fleet zealot]

Yea bleed is a bait, even the most fleshtearer perfect build your bleed is only going to be 10%~ of your damage

Knife is high damage both for burst and consistency

[naive wharf]

so vet knife = yes bleed
zealot knife = no bleed

[fleet zealot]

Vet is also no bleed they go mercy uncanny, serrated blade exists to always have mercy enabled

[spare talon]

vet has serrated blade in the talent tree so they can just go uncanny mercykiller

[hybrid jewel]

Vet knoife is uncanny mercykiller.

[obsidian prairie]

Vet knife is also no bleed

[fleet zealot]

But we can’t stop people from going bleed knife so that’s why we recommend flesh tearer uncanny, the best way to make a bleed knife

[obsidian prairie]

They can just take a talent to get it for a blessing

[naive wharf]

got it, never put a bleed blessing on knife except for mercy killer

[fleet zealot]

Also they don’t really care about the 60% crit damage from precog

[hybrid jewel]

If they go serrated blade. Otherwise uncanny and something else. I just use fleshtearer then cos eh.

[naive wharf]

this about right?

[obsidian prairie]

Yep

Uncanny riposte or riposte precog works as well

[fleet zealot]

Precog and duelist talent stack extremely well together as well as your other dodge talents

[fleet zealot]

Riposte precog imo only works if you spec piety and it’s right side extension, if you go IJ or just want raw consistency, sub one out for uncanny

[naive wharf]

probably gonna stick with precog, since im using blazing piety with fury rising

[fleet zealot]

Just keep in mind

Knife does like 3x damage to weakspot, lacerate does not compensate this enough!!!

[naive wharf]

so that plus scourge, equals what should be enough crit chance

[fleet zealot]

Now all you need to do is practice special action->light attack combo and Push Attack usage

And the whole knife lunge mobility but tbh that’s more of a meme if you aren’t actually doing true solo/true duo runs

[naive wharf]

i know the push attack is great, so im gonna need to get used to using that a bit more, dont even know what the special action is
and the lunge mobility is actually quite fun for me, since i enjoy running really fast and having good mobility

[fleet zealot]

Both special light and push attack are faster and more spamable single target than using heavies which have more delay

[hybrid jewel]

Punch. A worse DS4 poke tbh.

[fleet zealot]

Special on knife is the left hand punch, the light after doing this is unique and high damage

[naive wharf]

game crashed going into psykhanium
very cool and good :)

how fast is getting the corruption penance for zealots middle aura though?

[fleet zealot]

Just go for grims and gas missions

Grims especially will feed the penance quickly

[hybrid jewel]

Eh, just run heresy for half a day of runs. Ppl suck enough for it to get doggo corruption.

[fleet zealot]

Gas you might have a competent team that doesn’t get corrupted

[fleet zealot]

Also true!

[naive wharf]

wtf

[hybrid jewel]

Or bonus, groaner? corruption.

[naive wharf]

just got 11 hundred diamantine from completing those 3 havoc missions while getting armourbane

they were only 2 rank ones and a rank two

[fleet zealot]

Im free

[hybrid jewel]

You sure that wasn't last week's havoc box?

[fleet zealot]

Probably from the events as well we had the new player and havoc event followed by the waking giants event

[hybrid jewel]

OMG. It's also img posting ontop of 15 secs?

[obsidian prairie]

Wait we got embeds

[fleet zealot]

Chef

[naive wharf]

the event i did the first few days it was out, and did the first havoc mission only a few days ago, so it must've been last weeks box