zealot-class

[vague depot]

Hi cici are you free to hop on havoc tomorrow

[grizzled aspen]

You need therapy man, fading light is not fun.

[hard nexus]

shooters being actual threats is very fun

though reapers need to be easier to stagger in melee, thats my only complaint with it

[grizzled aspen]

Should they actually be a threat? Yes. Should they have the capacity to instantly down you by themselves? No.

[hard nexus]

consider dodging

[spare talon]

i adapted to it
it hit my like a brick wall during testing but now its not really a big deal on any class (besides ogryn) when you account for it

[grizzled aspen]

Consider 30 shooters at once with delayed firing times.

[clever swan]

one thing that sucks is you cant use creature spawner to spawn havoc level enemies to consistently train against the shooters

[atomic matrix]

How hard is to suppress them? I feel going melee agains them is a bad idea since they update their tracking quite fast at cqc

[hard nexus]

slide and shoot back, or take cover

[frosty herald]

Kill yourself

[hard nexus]

its really easy to suppress them, but in melee they will just insta kill you if you dont have a high stagger weapon

[spare talon]

dorn dragged me into a carry on EU servers with high ping for me
and i was relegated to the fotf zealot and after playing psyker in there for so long
it was
not a big deal, even at high ping, cuz i knew how to play around fading light

[grizzled aspen]

Shoot back with what? :)
Due to hitmass scaling, I'm forced to use infinite cleave ranged weapons like purg and trauma, especially considering I'm the bubble soyker because my teammates like to fall over a lot.

[hard nexus]

trauma m1, or use basically any weapon, the hitmass scaling isnt that bad lmfao

[clever swan]

skill issue is the answer to all thoughts

[frosty herald]

Havoc 40 is still brutally hard

[grizzled aspen]

Also, lemme throw you a curveball, cranial parasite can't be suppressed.

[atomic matrix]

So another enemy who's counter mechanisms is ranged attacks, the more I see, the more I feel ObeseFish needs to tune their modifiers to make a healthier hard mode

[grizzled aspen]

It's like a 1 in 3 chance that a chaff shooter spawns with a parasite, too, so of those 30 shooters in this hypothetical, 10 are unsuppressable.

[fiery ingot]

You guys make havoc sounds really scary and I feel like shit. Im already strugling at auric maelstrom lmao

[grizzled aspen]

Fading light is just super overtuned is all I'm getting at. Needs to be dialed back severely.

[atomic matrix]

Auric is equivalent to Havoc 25-ish, is when going near the top where stuff goes absolutely off the rails

[vague depot]

What’s the havoc fotf build

[spare talon]

literally just default piety

[grizzled aspen]

Its just fading light that makes it a huge issue, and that kicks in at 25.

[vague depot]

So the basic dueling sword blazing piety but with stalwart and one free point?

[clever swan]

they dont really gotta change fading light necessarily, they shouldnt really make the mode easier. they should just add at least one alternative to fading light

[ornate bone]

buzz lightyear gif build

[tight scroll]

yeah but whats the DPS increase of Atharti's Delight?

[plush estuary]

2

[copper hawk]

Some time after 2200 cst yah

[spare talon]

the moment you tune it back, the moment ranged enemies stop being a threat
you cant have a hard mode and not make enemies a threat

[grizzled aspen]

I'd be happy if shooters didn't get an extended burst. That would help with dodging them and preventing them from one bursting you in the event that you don't dodge in time.

[vague depot]

Perfect I’ll go harass Cole and meow to join later

[atomic matrix]

The real issue is that there are many modifiers that directly buff ranged enemies, all that combined truly makes them hard to deal against

[spare talon]

shooters burst length was tuned to dodge windows

[grizzled aspen]

Cole, the game still throws 30 shooters at you at a time. I just hate ONE SINGULAR GUY being able to down you in one burst.

[tight scroll]

getting shot at by shooters makes you wish for a shield on all classes

[frosty herald]

Reaper looks at you for 1 millisecond and your dead on the spot

[tight scroll]

which fr, when are we getting shields

[hard nexus]

FREE US FROM SLOW MODEEE

[grizzled aspen]

Like, elites, I'm fine with shredding me, that's all well and good, but chaff should not have oneshot potential. I'll argue this till I'm blue in the face.

[spare talon]

almost like you may want to consider tools to stop them from shooting, either from you or a teammate
like you need to prepare for the difficulty in all departments
its like its a sweaty tryhard mode or something

[vague depot]

But you look better in green

[hard nexus]

its called TOUGHNESS !!! you aint built for these hive streets cuh, take yo ass back to fantasy !!! 🗣️

[grizzled aspen]

Cole I believe I'm going to have to skin and eat you now.

[clever swan]

zealot chat normal

[dull matrix]

🤣

[spare talon]

would you believe me if i said THIS IS THE EASIEST ITERATION OF HAVOC

[hearty nebula]

ikr

[grizzled aspen]

I would, doesn't change the fact that it's still horribly executed lmao.

[tight scroll]

my psyker is indeed built for fantasy

[hard nexus]

preparing???? in my in depth building game?????????? woah,,,,,

[clever swan]

they should make a fading light 3 where each enemy also has a mini flamethrower

[frosty herald]

There are other ways for difficulty instead of being gunned down in the bronx by a scab shooter

[grizzled aspen]

Mfw issues of build diversity become even more apparent because cbt gamemode enjoyers enjoy cbt too much:

[tight scroll]

the eternal game of "play tide game for challenge" and "play tide game to turn off brain"

[spare talon]

i just remembered something planned....

[ornate bone]

NO AME NO BRANE SYKER MANE

[atomic matrix]

What I don't like is that the mechanics to fight ranged enemies is ranged damage, shields are class unique and should not be the only way to survive them, the other universal tools should be always available

[hard nexus]

flamer waves?

[frosty herald]

Elite resistance is built into havoc with normal elite spawns

[fiery ingot]

This is so true lmao after work i wanna play dy to chill but then I drop it cause i don't have brains to be sweaty

[grizzled aspen]

I dont even wanna turn off my brain to play havoc, I just want it to not be excruciatingly fuckin annoying to bother doing attempts. I don't have four hours every day to burn playing havocs. I play 3 or 4 aurics per session, and thats maybe 2 hours, and then I go do something else.

[tight scroll]

bet that'd sound like a gaggle of weathermen telling me the forecast xd

[frosty herald]

The torrent having a burning map modifier that was leaked

Also people dislike the havoc difficulty because of the system where you lose ranks making you just not want to attempt to play them casualy

[spare talon]

it was in the files and thus accessable by solo play

[grizzled aspen]

Waves of flamers sounds fucking torturous.

[tight scroll]

yeah I hear you, ngl I havent even touched Havoc outside helping a few peeps cus I cba to grind and maintain that shit

[hard nexus]

you dont have to run meta in havoc lmfao

[heady rapids]

we alr know about shambling pyres, that shit is so ass it makes nurgle goop look like child's play

[copper hawk]

[grizzled aspen]

Tell me a zealout build that isn't standard fotf piety or chorus piety.

[heady rapids]

enemies dealing damage on contact while also being on fire so you can't tell what's happening in front of you? sign me the fuck out

[tight scroll]

idfk martyrdom knife

[grizzled aspen]

It's a rhetorical request because you don't run anything other than those lmao.

[frosty herald]

Oooo you should run stealth in havoc and agro dump your team

[hearty nebula]

the curse of darktide pubs
one game, actually competent teammates who are managing to keep up
next game, absolute fucking buffoons who barely know how to click lmb

[hard nexus]

i was referring to "run relic or ds in havoc or u literally cannot do it", thats an issue with zealot as a whole, not particularly havoc

[spare talon]

no thats not what im talking about
i remember hearing ab it from solo play but idk it actually does

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-gif-12387959840576830672

[frosty herald]

... you mean to say it isnt the torrent burning?

[fiery ingot]

Damn no crusher?

[dull finch]

Idk man it aint that hard just dont stand still and get shot

[grizzled aspen]

Well I said build diversity, not weapon diversity. I could clear havoc with a rashad if I wanted. Doesn't change the fact that I'm still using one or the other for my build.

[dull finch]

Shroudfield or charge zealot

[heady rapids]

genuinely thought it was shambling pyres cause that's a havoc modifier, there's also tzeentchian twins but that's whatever

[grizzled aspen]

If your argument boils down to skill issue then I'm actually going to eat your face.

[dull finch]

[hard nexus]

yes zealot is pigeonholed into 1 main build, thats not really related to havocs difficulty though, but rather zealot's talent tree being poorly built

[frosty herald]

Please god put the tzeentch modifer into the game

[grizzled aspen]

It's both lmao. Havoc just makes it worse.

[dull finch]

No its just no one can play the game without stunning things and buffing themselves with golden toughness

[frosty herald]

Fuck you 5th ogryn rework because ogryn players are massive babies that need lots of care or theyll cry to fatshark

[grizzled aspen]

Hence why I said "the issue of build diversity is made even more apparent by havocs." (paraphrasing myself)

[heady rapids]

Roaming captains was in game and working for a year before it first appeared (in havoc)

[dull finch]

More like issue with everyone wanting to use the easiest thing just to play the game without actually learning skills

[hard nexus]

the average server member would get obliterated trying to use anything other than chorus lmfao

[spare talon]

ogryns are a higher priority imo tho
zealots are lacking in build diversity but not overall strength, ogryns suffer in both

[dull finch]

Exactly man, no one can play anything other than meta builds because they just cant be bothered to get good enough

[fiery ingot]

That's a common effect tho, no? If a class has only a few build varieties due to its tree, the harder content will always demand the min-maxed filtered version of all possibilities, so that's just a consequence of playing on hard mode isn't it?

[dull finch]

Spamming golden toughness for a cheese survivor title aint skill

[frosty herald]

Solo havoc 40

[grizzled aspen]

Psyker can run whatever with success, vet can see success with both voc and exe stance, depending on pus hardened, and zealout really only sees great success with chorus. Fotf is possible but that requires your teammates to build for survival that you don't have.

[drowsy steppe]

it was me. I cheesed survivor title

[plush estuary]

hi cheesed survivor title

[median steeple]

it was me Barry

[copper hawk]

Meeeeeeee

[tight scroll]

glad I could make it, Arthas

[hard nexus]

you do not need to rely so heavily on teammates for chastise, when i run chastise, i barely spend any time next to my team because im just up ahead killing shit before it kills me

[grizzled aspen]

Then, quite simply, you are an outlier.

[fiery ingot]

Wait you talking about zealot middle ultimate skill? Rrally? I always hated that cause you basically incapacitante yourself for a few seconds of extra breath. Idk i'd much rather have a zealot throwing himself in the middle of the moshpit and bang everyone right there

[hard nexus]

sometimes yeah you need to fall back, for either elite pack spawns, or bosses, or a shit ton of gunners, but overall, chastise needs to be played super agressively

[dull finch]

Vets strongest ability is infiltrate, but no one seems to know how to even use half of it

[frosty herald]

LMAO

[tight scroll]

I forget

[plush estuary]

I forgor

[tight scroll]

is Chastise the one where you put your crocs into sports mode?

[frozen kernel]

Ye

[tight scroll]

I fuck with that ult

[spare talon]

chorus is picked if your team cant live without it
fotf is picked if they can
your total damage output is halved with chorus, ive seen this trend repeatedly, so its exclusively just a cushion if your team is not good

[grizzled aspen]

Having 10ish seconds of breathing room + gold toughness in a mode where you can be outright killed is huge, yeah. That gives your team enough time to reposition, wait on abilities to recharge, such as another chorus or bubble, get a rescue/revive/un-net off, or to eliminate priority targets, such as a handful of bulwarks.

[dull finch]

I think that shows how shallow your knowledge with zealot is, book is easily the worst with survivability

[hard nexus]

(i outdamaged a purg staff and a trauma staff when i had chorus one time,,,)

[frosty herald]

This is genuinely hilarious

[tight scroll]

also ngl I struggle the most with Psyker, I find they are way too squishy, can't imagine what its like on high level havoc

[dull finch]

Its huge when u dont know how to play the game

[plush estuary]

I outdamagead a m1 macro EK staff

[clever swan]

chat is moving fast so no one will know woof woof arf woof

[spare talon]

teehee https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1278540580976328790/1332651381190033481/image.png?ex=67980210&is=6796b090&hm=fcedfb9d584472379ab9e9da94b555beb464789888c91441002b08228812df05&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[dull finch]

its really squishy but some people make it work and i know a guy who can eat up the damage for the whole game and rush ahead playing psyker

[plush estuary]

Pin this

[heady rapids]

I outdamaged a youtuber 😎

[grizzled aspen]

Alright I have tired of your ragebaiting, that's another voiced silenced to my ears permanently.

[median steeple]

image.png

[fiery ingot]

I played psyker only once and hated how paper i felt like. After that never played it again, but i learned to always backup the psyker in my team

[hard nexus]

heh,, yeah, you're going in the blocked book,,,,

[dull finch]

Yea u do that

[plush estuary]

I outdamaged dorn-oh wait, its dorn

[spare talon]

try raising the bar off the floor

[heady rapids]

a fatshark partner 😎😎😎

[hard nexus]

best feeling ever

[grizzled aspen]

I don't even care anymore man, these people just boil down to "hurr durr skill issue" and it's rather annoying to have to listen to the same regurgitated response from them rather than hearing a proper response.

[dull finch]

He mustve been talking about mister e, i bet this frguuh guy watches him religiously seeing how he preaches book zealot

[tight scroll]

oh dont get me wrong, I started as a a Psyker main and they're deffo strong, but man can I struggle sometimes lmao

[clever swan]

phew no one saw it

[median steeple]

fuckboy haircut.... HATE !

[grizzled aspen]

I saw.

[dull finch]

Psyker is definitely the hardest to not die in out of all the classes for sure

[frosty herald]

When people use chorus the best tool to make your team survive in the hardest content🤯

[tight scroll]

also hot psyker take, the Deflector blessing should've been a talent

[broken walrus]

I like how chorus not only stuns enemies, but also makes your team fucking invincible as well

[tight scroll]

that alone would nullify any squishiness problems with Psyker I have and that means Id be good and therefore it should exist cus I'm right

[plush estuary]

It does not in havoc

[dull finch]

Theres a reason why everyone uses it, it makes the game easy

[heady rapids]

empathic evasion.....

[spare talon]

psyker with meta havoc stuff kinda just stops taking damage https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1166086681624064121/1327526826242998293/20250111063659_1.jpg?ex=67987b33&is=679729b3&hm=136c94a09f168671518d0a21155b03ab342b1777445823198db08ea62f39365c&=&format=webp&width=1202&height=676
im the psyker in this image, it was 1 bubble 1 fotf 1 voc for the team

[grizzled aspen]

This could be interesting if it also changed all your block animations. It would have to have a drawback though, like reduced block efficiency.

[heady rapids]

offensive deflector (a win win)

[dull finch]

500 damage taken tho

[spare talon]

oh that was a game where i actually sucked ass
lemme find a better one

[dull finch]

I seen a guy take 0 damage on psyker in vet chat a while back in havoc 40

[hard nexus]

u took the most damage though huh

[tight scroll]

damn Blaze GS and Flame Staff?

isnt that a bit too much crowd clear?

[grizzled aspen]

1.1k damage taken, I'm dead.

[clever swan]

1 damage taken? skill issue. you may not think so but it's true.

[spare talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1166086681624064121/1325367211270869012/image.png?ex=6797e027&is=67968ea7&hm=42374e08c1850da128ae73bbd81b0b01e6a8386321490ea9c3f61f8ab81500f1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=981&height=676

[median steeple]

image ah forget it

[tight scroll]

Ill have to try it lmao

[dull finch]

300 is okay ish

[frosty herald]

Dude is just flaunting his ego

[tight scroll]

wouldn't mind an excuse to return to the burny stagf

[grizzled aspen]

It's funny to think about damage taken in havocs, I'll see Banx's hp bar turn entirely purple and he goes "GUYS IM NOT FEELING SO GOOD RIGHT NOW."

[clever swan]

literally not even worth paying attention to. I hate mfs like this because there's no actual way to reason with them

[dull finch]

Trauma staff is pretty insane too

[spare talon]

you have almost no cleave cuz of the hitmass changes, so the fgs ends up being single target (at least in this case cuz no cleave blessing)
having the force push, deflector, and just raw chunking hits with a force slash in my back pocket is nice
plus i can say im not using the duelling sword lmao

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah cleave falls off quite fast in havoc, it's rather annoying.

[tight scroll]

man dsword really is the new knife huh

[dull finch]

Great force sword is good for clearing stuff tho even on havoc 40s

[spare talon]

yes but im not using a cleave blessing here
good luck hitting more than 1-2 things per swing

[heady rapids]

mobility though

[grizzled aspen]

Almost like artificial difficulty isn't fun or something...

[dull finch]

Oof

[tight scroll]

fine line between difficulty and punishment

[heady rapids]

punishment is stagger on hit

[spare talon]

im using shred for damage and emp evasion and deflector for safety

[tight scroll]

granted I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about, but all I heard from Havoc has been just, punishment on punishment lmao

[dull finch]

Dont hear it from frguuh, from what he says he has a shallow knowledge of the game if he is saying the meta builds are the only viable builds

[hard nexus]

they r bitching, h40 is meant to be extremely difficult, but its still absolutely doable, even with non meta

[spare talon]

the longer i play video games and talk to people about them, the more i learn that someone referring to "artificial difficulty" of something means "i dont like how hard it is"
saw this with destiny, see it here

[dull finch]

High havocs are definitely tough but its more than doable once above a certain skill level, it is even easy for some people

[fiery ingot]

We are, after all, true zealots in our hearts and pain is ultimately our miserable goal

[grizzled aspen]

I agree that it's doable, but I don't agree with difficulty choices, that's all.

[tight scroll]

tbf tide games are about ever increasing difficulty

even with Verm, eventually the community overgrew Cata

[heady rapids]

when are we getting vanguard back to basics in dartkide

[tight scroll]

and thats why we have dutch spice and DWONS

[dull finch]

Still waiting for havoc 50 and 60

[spare talon]

jsats words ringing true

[heady rapids]

we need our own fortunes of war where survivalist doesn't work.....

[hard nexus]

the common definition of artificial difficulty could be applied to to all of darktide, "more enemies, more health, more damage" is all the difficulty increases from sedition to auric damnation are

[dull finch]

Playing meta makes it literally so boring i honestly hate it

[spare talon]

i know and i make fun of it all the time

[clever swan]

havoc isn't that hard if you know some key strategies. staying back the instant a boss spawns and running backwards to deal with hordes.

but Randoms do the opposite of these strategies actually making havoc even harder than you'd think since not only are your Randoms trash but they also got a horde + 2 full bosses on you

[grizzled aspen]

Artificial difficulty, at least to me, is just cranking numbers up for the purpose of cranking numbers up. Increased hitmass has no real purpose other than to force you to use bad blessings, for example.

[copper hawk]

Artificial difficulty is usually applied in the context of games like rpgs or games like the division, where instead of the game throwing unique challenges at you they just increase the hps of enemies across the board

[dull finch]

Yea the hardest challenge in havoc is finding decent teamates who wont die

[median steeple]

just play psyker and turn off the game fr

[tight scroll]

Ive only ever described artificial difficulty as something that doesn't make the encounter harder necessarily, just take longer

[hard nexus]

increasing enemy health has no real purpose other than to force you to use damage blessings, for example.

angel sticker here

[copper hawk]

Idk if artificial difficulty is applicable in a game where the difficulty and entire game is literally kill hordes in a tide

[grizzled aspen]

I'm going to eat your mk3 evisc. Like, with a fork.

[clever swan]

Sadly they don't seem to be able to increase enemy numbers much without destroying our performance

[heady rapids]

CONSOLE PLAYER TAX WE ARE NEVER GETTING HORDES BACK NEVER

[copper hawk]

Console performance* there was a time where we had normal spawns before they were decreased

[hard nexus]

frown

[dull finch]

I mean aside from throwing even more crushers and bulwarks at us idk how they gonna make havoc difficult without making things tankier and us more squishy

[tight scroll]

one good example of 'perfect' difficulty for me will always be the Killing Floor series, where enemies outright chsnge their behavior on higher difficulties and start juking your shots if you're not fast enough

I don't think the game does it perfectly, but I love shit like that

[clever swan]

I guess. but even my pc goes down to like 60 fps in the bigger horde moments

[dull finch]

u can tank so many hits in auric maelstroms its downright stupid theres no way they can keep the damnation health in havocs

[heady rapids]

helldivers almost escaped artificial difficulty but it has one enemy that has different hp based on difficulty.....

[tight scroll]

no pickups no rescues, one wound, no toughness
gl

[hard nexus]

chargers? what?

[dull finch]

Shroudfield zealot can do it

[heady rapids]

no rescues or pickups/wounds already exists
troo survivor....

[hard nexus]

i need 2 play more kf2, that game is fun

i wish that we could host our own servers easier though :('

[dull finch]

Cheese survivor u can straight die and still get it

[heady rapids]

the green spitter big belly bug thing
I called the guy who told me that a schizo over it and apparently i was wrong

[tight scroll]

Im hyped for KF 3, hope they make it better and bigger than 2

and that they don't butcher Zerk

[dull finch]

I mean its not exactly skill if u use 4 book zealots rotating books and then just door whatever boss they spawn

[grizzled aspen]

Don't impact grenades oneshot those things tho?

[hard nexus]

they have different armor on the heads, but i didnt know about health changing

[dull finch]

Bile spewers?

[heady rapids]

it still has different hp on I think diff 4 vs 5 or something, I can search the convo up if y'all are interested

[spare talon]

something people dont consider in a game like this when thinking about higher enemy health is not just "takes longer to kill" but the consequences of it taking longer to kill
now you have to fight that thing for x% longer than you would have otherwise, so you have to know how to fight for that long
if you just used duelling sword and 2 shot crushers before they ever swung and never actually had an extended fight with multiple of them, havoc would obliterate you cuz you actually havent learned how to engage with them for longer than .5 seconds

[heady rapids]

oh yeah that^^^^^^^^

30 second slowmode.......

[dull finch]

Yea but T4 and T5 are pretty low

[grizzled aspen]

This is why I haven't commented on hp values. I actually know how to fight 5 crushers at once, so fighting them with more hp than normal isn't that much of an issue.

[tight scroll]

man Ive seen so many people eat crusher overheads its not even funny
I dont understand how they got to that point without learning to dodge

[dull finch]

They nerfed every enemy and buffed so many weapons now its very easily doable even on super helldive

[tight scroll]

I understand yknow you didnt see it or used up your dodges elsewhere but some people

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1213408492648407143/1223920674838679582/HELLDIVERS_2_2024.03.31_-_14.02.38.03.mp4?ex=6797f4b4&is=6796a334&hm=f101b35452ead636becc4ff786e26b0632a3fee44a408dc3e9c0cba05113cb3a&

[spare talon]

havoc taught me that people really didnt know how to fight captains cuz in normal missions they just get obliterated instantly lmao

[misty ravine]

Havoc is literally what it took to shift the meta towards defensive support/CC away from pure offense

[dull finch]

Everytime theres a sword captain i just know someones gonna go down

[heady rapids]

lmao yeah, the sword captain can kill people that underestimate it so fast

[grizzled aspen]

Captains aren't that bad to solo. I only find issues with sword captains because fatshark is dumb and broke their animations.

[spare talon]

do you have perms to embed things here
i have a perfect clip if i could send it and you post it

[clever swan]

the fucking captain attack animation glitch

[tight scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/vindicta-deadlock-gif-4645275779678225240

[clever swan]

whenever it walks when it should probably be attacking just know your shits about to get rocked

[spare talon]

fuck

[tight scroll]

guess not

[heady rapids]

post in psyker chat

then @ everyone

[grizzled aspen]

I had to yell at Lumii once, saying "let me fight the captain, I have kinetic deflection," and he SWORE to me that he was fine until it instantly downed him with the bugged anim.

[dull finch]

Its whenever his sword is twitching

[clever swan]

yeah apparently the sword does some shit

[frosty herald]

I should get havoc exemplar

[dull finch]

hes absicallt swinging it when it looks like hes standing still or just holding jis sword

[tight scroll]

speakint of the captain dying instantly, man, gungryn shreds lmao

worst case scenario, half HP gone, reminds me of my Vermintide Engi days

[dull finch]

its the only thing not reallt viable in havoc just cuz ammo consumption im pretty sure

[grizzled aspen]

Unfortunately gunlugger doesn't scale well in havocs due to ammo pickups becoming less and less effective as you go up in clearance.

[heady rapids]

Ogryn is gonna feel not so good if they aren't running the heavy stubber

[misty ravine]

Ammo pickups and direct ranged damage generally

[spare talon]

#darktide-pics-vids message

[grizzled aspen]

Mfw one ammo tin gives you 10 whole bullets:

[dull finch]

Kickback works good as well

[frosty herald]

Gunlugger is useless in havoc especially if you get pus hardened the fire stacks when shooting in the gunlugger ability is its own saving grace

[heady rapids]

like a worse recon....

[dull finch]

Pus hardened is rough

[misty ravine]

They think it's not gonna hit based on the animation but I've been hit by overhead from a crusher facing away, and been missed by many that landed way closer than some that hit

[dull finch]

Ive been hit after falling off a ledge from a crusher too

[frosty herald]

The only enemies that are an enigma for me to solo is chaos spawns and bullwarks

[dull finch]

I hate bulwarks

[plush estuary]

hi, as the #1 hater oh them

[misty ravine]

Falling overrules dodge and block states

[clever swan]

bulwarks are so annoying because their shield blocks hits that they probably shouldn't block, presumably due to latency or something

[dull finch]

If u fall far enough

[tight scroll]

no situational awareness, that'll do it

[dull finch]

I fell a little bit and still got crushed when i shouldve been out of the hit range

[grizzled aspen]

Cspawn isn't bad if you can find a flat place to fight it. If you're above it on stairs you physically can't dodge the grab.

[dull finch]

Iframes exist

[visual stream]

Cspawn doesn't care about iframes if you're not in the right position. Just like most of BoN's attacks and the plogryn stomp

[frosty herald]

No chaos spawns are just impossible for me to fight their moveset is too eratic and unpredictable

[grizzled aspen]

Get creature spawner and go play with one in the psykhanium. Theyre a lot more simple than you realize. They've got like 3 attacks, max.

[frosty herald]

I can hold down a chaos spawn by blocking and dodging but killing it isnt possible

[clever swan]

their moveset is to roll all over you as an attack

[misty ravine]

The vertical axis is fucky when it comes to hit detection vs players. Seen what you described, and especially trappers pulling people back up on to ledges. Even seen one trapper net someone through bubble because the target was 2 feet higher on some stairs

[dull finch]

U can iframe it still

[frosty herald]

Chaos spawn are a tidal wave

[dull finch]

Yea lmao it fucks with u so much

[grizzled aspen]

That's the thing, if you manage blocks and dodges, you can no-hit a cspawn because they push you away with their force field thing they do. It's actually quite easy.

Just go play around with one in the psykhanium, they aren't that bad. Trust.

[frosty herald]

On thammer sure ill kill it

[dull finch]

Theres a guy on youtube who fought 10 chaos spawns at once, they have a pretty simple moveset

[vague depot]

Can you loop a chaos spawn consistently I was only able to bait out the repeat overhead slams when my back was to the wall

[frosty herald]

But relic blade is too much of an atricion battle

[dull finch]

And their attacks are so slow u can easily dodge out of their range and shoot them

[grizzled aspen]

Yes. If you wait for a grab you can slide past its hitbox if you're in a corner.

[vague depot]

How do you loop it

[dull finch]

Block push attack

[grizzled aspen]

Oh you're talking about attack looping, not just running around the map. :P oops.

[fiery ingot]

I think they meant to slide by its sides in case you're cornered

[dull finch]

Chaos spawns grab towards the left, so dont dodge to the left, dodge to the right and itll be way easier to dodge it

[vague depot]

I know how to dodge the grab I mean how do I bait it to do the overhead attack over and over again without putting my back against the wall
For plague ogyrns I just dodged back and walked forward idk if side dodging worked on them

[grizzled aspen]

If you are struggling with relic blade against cspawn then I may need to unfortunately give you the skill issue argument. You've got a huge stamina pool to play with, use it. Also if you're running boltgun or flamer with rb, don't do that anymore, your rb does both horde clear and armor quite well by itself.

[dull finch]

I think u need to basically have the right amount of dodge distance everytime

[dull finch]

Bros talking about skill issue when he complains he cant play havocs without meta builds

[grizzled aspen]

I run the agri infantry autogun as my ranged choice with relic blade just for trash shooter cleanup. It works well in a pinch to deal with bulwark racism while clutching, if need be, and it serves well enough as a movement tool for getting away from nasty situations.

[vague depot]

That’s rough
Assuming I do what direction do I dodge
Do I go back and forth like with the plague ogyrn or do I hug the chaos spawn and dodge side to side

[dull finch]

Im not entirely sure but ive seen a guy do it on ogryn to get him to repeatedly pound the ground on youtube

[vague depot]

Can you share the video

[plush estuary]

side to side ,dodge left or right when he pounds, then go back to being in front of him

[dull finch]

Its old af but i can try and find it

[vague depot]

Got it thanks
It’s still front and back for plague ogyrn though right

[copper hawk]

https://youtu.be/xvFZjo5PgG0?si=2bKfX4Psx2AAhVN1 yah here you go

[vague depot]

This is a rick roll isn’t it

[next crow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOe5h4IZE8w there are some attacks that are easily dodged and others that are more easily blocked

[grizzled aspen]

I know that link by heart you mongrel.

[dull finch]

Cant find it

I saw it over a year ago but he was on ogryn and just kept dodging to the side basically

[fast iron]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a72FJ1dIhY4

[vague depot]

Alt shared the video already thanks

[fiery ingot]

i almost clicked. would've clicked if didnt read the next messages

[dull finch]

Its another video but it was basicLly liek that

[fiery ingot]

i stg slowmode in this chat is making me learn how to edit messages in discord

[copper hawk]

FACK u spoiling all my fun

[next crow]

i think you can lock the spawn into only doing slam or grab if you're touching its hitbox when it decides what to do, so you dodge either backwards or to the right depending on what's coming out, then run back to hug its crotch

[dull finch]

Probably

[next crow]

sorta like how you do it with plogryn

[dull finch]

Its probably a distance thing before it switches attacks

[grizzled aspen]

Maybe don't rickroll people in 2025 you decrepit old fart.

[dull finch]

Like how crushers will only overhead after a certain distance sth like 6m

[neat drum]

whatd yall do that they took out pics

[fiery ingot]

forbidden ogryn pics. or so i've heard

[grizzled aspen]

We got a little too silly. :3

[fiery ingot]

how are taxes in this patch? are they still shit?

[misty ravine]

Taxes are theft
Tactical Axe is decent

[grizzled aspen]

Tac axes are knives if they were ethical, as in you can't 2shot a crusher. (you can still 1tap them with a chastise duellist headshot)

[fiery ingot]

oh thats pog

they used to be so shit back then. what made them good? new blessings or dmg buff?

[grizzled aspen]

I have no idea what buffs they got, I got into darktide like 3 months before sotmg dropped.

[frosty herald]

Cole solod havoc 40 with a taxe

[spare talon]

people realized that they actually dont suck on zealot
(im people)

they arent meta by any means but they arent shit like people originally thought

[fiery ingot]

oh damn

what are the blessings to usually go with it? bromentum and head taker?
also how is horde clearing with it? i remember struggling with stam sustain due to too much PA while testing it in a solo t5

[spare talon]

thats what i use
horde clearing is fine since you have brutal momentum, plus a stam curio and stam regen perks make stamina management a thing of the past

[frosty herald]

Cole runs block effeciency

[spare talon]

yam i will not stand for this slander

[fiery ingot]

time for me to learn to git gud and not crutch on 3 toughness curios anymore then

[frosty herald]

🤫

[spare talon]

i went to 2 toughness 1 +3 stam and never looked back

[mighty root]

cole always ignores me

[fiery ingot]

alr ill give it a shot. ty for the help

[spare talon]

it feels like someone is talking about me
weird

[mighty root]

i ask to play and and tumbleweeds comes out my pc

fuck my stupid chud life

we duoed ONCE and never again

[spare talon]

you do tend to ask me when im unavailable

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/true-truth-orange-weird-true-that-gif-14308761

anyone else lobotmize a dog with a knife and you turn away and they still pounce on you?

like the sound for the hit connecting and everything plays

did it's brain dodge it?

[copper hawk]

does anyone have meow's crit evis build on hand

[jovial cosmos]

Ye if you hit them as they pounce they just dont take dmg or smt

[jovial cosmos]

Even better when you use flamer, stagger them, get pounced anyway, but somehow free yourself

[mighty root]

if dog is in motion it cannot be harmed

the pox hound is a wonderful creature

[twin wagon]

[jovial cosmos]

Nah this is just old assassin rat ai where it just tps onto you

[mighty root]

ive also had them live through bb

i pop their brain and they stay in motion

i like the mod that makes them sound like minecraft dogs

[jagged cradle]

I’m 90% sure it’s perfect strike shred flak elite

[fiery ingot]

i have experienced a dog jumping at me first and barking after

[mighty root]

Yeah silent dogs are an issue

[mighty root]

I’ve had trappers in hordes not make any noise and the people spectating me say they didn’t even hear it

I’m really tempted to get spidy sense just because of that and dogs

[fiery ingot]

spidey sense is just too polluter to me otherwise i'd use it as well

[mighty root]

I really hope I can make my bots my characters in the future

Please fatty fishy at least upgrade them bots so they stand a chance

Or I can duo and solo

[fiery ingot]

honestly i just wish they had an ai as decent as the ones in vermintide at the very least

[mighty root]

Yeah I’d be all over making our other characters into bots

I wonder how a bot would do with a staff

They don’t even uses their exe stance I’d doubt they’d uses venting shriek

We need a bot guide how powerful can we make our current bots

[twin wagon]

Spidey senses is a crutch for those of us who are not hard of hearing
Use cackling trapper instead, still has you, the player, relly on sound...it just plays it 24/7 so when the sound channel is overloaded once, it'll play next

[mighty root]

Ohhhh that’s a lot better

[twin wagon]

You can't unhear the specials if you want to till they drop

[mighty root]

What about dogs

[twin wagon]

Altho atm it only works with dogs, busters and trappers
Dogs bark a lot, busters click evne more often and trappers just laugh

[fiery ingot]

thats all i need honestly

[mighty root]

Are there any reskin mods? Have we reached that point yet?

[fiery ingot]

the last thing i need is the mutant screaming in a loop over and over again in my head

[twin wagon]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[mighty root]

Yeah trappers and dogs have been my bane recently

And curshers sometimes I just can’t hear them

[fast iron]

someone mad c:

[mighty root]

He’s always mad

For no reason

[solar gorge]

time to grind this lvl 3 zealot, i hope our beloved malice players are online

[clever terrace]

polluter? 🤔
but it's also highly customisable which I like

[clever terrace]

Spidey sense also only goes off the sound, but just turns it into a visual indicator.
I use it due to auditory processing issues

[jovial cosmos]

This is normal fyi, bb doesnt oneshot dogs

[orchid wave]

was playing dagger zealot on aurics
team left one by one as they went down

managed to clutch and revive all the bots, but nobody joined
tried to solo the finale and died, turns out there was an update a few hours ago.

[acoustic dune]

if miku bought darktide
what class would she main?
or would she all play then equally

[grand tangle]

This kind of thing is why we still have slowmode

[frosty herald]

vet

[stone fern]

anyone know how havoc selects regions?

[clever terrace]

this is tame af

[stone fern]

i feel like its not based on hosts mission board region more like some middle ground between all players. i had some issues when i played for the first week and now again. i remember when @naive stirrup joined us the region changed

[frosty herald]

did you really need to make a forum post

[stone fern]

im responding to you in psyker for image rights

[misty nova]

Cole
Once you get enough cred as a play tester
Tell FS to add the Can Opener blessing on the Cleavers, specially on heavies

🗣️

[hard nexus]

that’s just thunderous lol

[fleet zealot]

No can opener is proc’d by special action nlorb

[misty nova]

I don't want to go 4 by 4
I want 16
NOW!

Also Cleavers don't have thunderous and can opener would be thematically fitting
Because big knife

[hard nexus]

nlorb??

[misty nova]

Just like how brutal momentum and deathblow are totally thematic
Trust me on this one

Looks at axe (Bladed weapon)
Brutal Momentum

[violet hornet]

Nlorb

[fleet zealot]

Nlorb behavior

[carmine falcon]

i think the relic blade just made the "Good" evis varient irrelevant to me lmao, its just straight up better and the "Bad one" actually feels distinct enough

[nimble fiber]

u look very Nlorb today, gotta be honest

[fleet zealot]

Can a nlorb gleep and a Prolb giznack really fall in love?

[carmine falcon]

wtf mark 2 is literally a better version of the "Bad" evis

evis buff incoming surely?

[misty nova]

Cole's trying to stop the cap
ATP you take the Evis15 for Boss and Void shield shenanigans

Once asked about the daemonhost killing prowess of the Blade and folks told me it was average
While the Evis15 will just chew through it
Yum yum

[fleet zealot]

You mean void shield

[misty nova]

shhhhh

[fleet zealot]

Cause relic absolutely hits bosses like a truck, just loop stabs and overheads (and uppercuts on mk2 i guess)

[misty nova]

I'm spreading Evis15 propaganda

[fleet zealot]

My radiator is making noise again!!! I can feel a little bit of airflow

[carmine falcon]

it hits like a truck its just not comically strong
its super well rounded without being silly strong in any particular aspect except horde clear
but im no expert and this is jsut my experience

[misty nova]

What else?
Uh
Evis15 will make short work of carapace (unsafe)
Idk

Well if it's lore accurate then a power weapon will be better than a chain weapon
Unless you're Rogal Dorn with both

[fleet zealot]

relics powered state just invalidates evi besides void shield

[carmine falcon]

with relic u can 1 shot a crusher with running thrust fotf and it feels so good when u get comfortable with it
without fotf u do enough dmg to finish them off in 1 normal shot
in power state u just brutalize them with heavies

its good against armor, it just feels underwhelming to some cause other weapons are pretty "funny" balance wise

[hard nexus]

the one thing evis is great at is killing captains, a rev L1 chastise to the body into L1 to the head is i believe the most damage you can deal to a captain with mk3, and it’s really good damage because captains r flak

[hard nexus]

relic blade is absurdly strong, on the level of ds4 lol

[frosty herald]

Btw relic blade is the only weapon with a displacer field in darktide you can see it have a faint outline when inspecting it

Cyn relic blade is perfectly balanced shut up

[carmine falcon]

yes but i like it so ill downplay how strong it is
fatshark this weapon is a piece of shit and i only make it work cause skill trust

[hard nexus]

it is not !!!!!!!!!!!

[carmine falcon]

jokes aside i find ds a lot easier to manhandle elites still, i need to be in powered state or time the running thrust with fotf to take heavies out fast
with ds4 i just mindlessly poke

[solar gorge]

the difference is, ds is just a toothpick and relic is kino

[misty nova]

It's just Blazing Trauma all over again 😭

[frosty herald]

Big cynwalker wanting to surpress our cure (relic blade) whilst forcing us to take her medicine (dueling sword)

[carmine falcon]

since we're talking about it
are u all using the pinned builds for relics or did you find funnier builds to use?

[solar gorge]

u will 2 shot crushers with this limpy ass twink sword and you will like it

[frosty herald]

Cranial rampage elites unyielding for normal play instead of havoc

[misty nova]

I'm using The Build ™ with Martyrdom
Then Rampage and Leakage

Is that blessing combo good?
Idk, feels like it though

[carmine falcon]

hmmm i have flak and maniacs so i can just blitz these types in a mixed horde
ill try yours

[solar gorge]

will dt get a big patch this week i wonder, considering we're getting new prenium™️ set in the shop next

[frosty herald]

This is relic blade for anti large lmao i have like 90% activated uptime when using it so i dont have to spec into flak maniac

[carmine falcon]

i have me boltah for that but ill try out the blessings for sure

[frosty herald]

@hard nexus did you see the new shop sets?

[hard nexus]

no

[hard nexus]

no the medicine is mk3 evis

[delicate shadow]

so troo (it needs nerfs)

[frosty herald]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1ib6teu/new_cosmetics_in_new_hotfix/

[hard nexus]

holy pawesome

[frosty herald]

Genuinely not dislikeable in any way

[opal star]

psyker fit that's actually kinda fire
this is a sign of the apocalypse

[sullen forge]

Actual Military Theme'd Uniforms for Psyker and Zealot that aren't fucking rags and or robes for once holy shit, Also its cool to see they're basing it off the Truskan Snowhounds

[carmine falcon]

i might buy that zealot one, only zealot skin i really like is the medieval armor one, this one looks as good

[broken walrus]

so why did we get put in slowmode timeout? What did we do?

[fleet zealot]

it's specifically to annoy you /joke

[broken walrus]

im glad im such a special boi

[tawdry leaf]

Gnarp gnarp

[fleet zealot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/GLAzYrglMAY?si=qN_Ekoe_RazcBk4e

important video

[placid fiber]

idk, bandit, I think you need a new handler.

[misty nova]

2 years of freak posting

[opaque island]

from the unspecific answers ive gotten, zealot chat was iether too horny or too political or both

[broken walrus]

too zealous would you say?

[placid fiber]

and more instances of reported slurs here >.>

[misty nova]

Horny and Political? On This economy?

[placid fiber]

Heresy

[north sedge]

not political, just horny

[stiff lava]

I require knowledge, what is the max wounds a Zealot can have and how is this achieved? The most I’ve been able to get is 8 but I’ve seen some people with 11 and mah brain must have clarification

[placid fiber]

7 on heresy/damnation, 8 on malice, 9 on uprising/sedition(iirc)

that's with 3 wound curios and the +2 wound talent, and this is only useful for marty(which the +2 wound talent is above)

wound curios on non-marty builds leave you with less resources to work with(and makes med stims less useful)

[misty nova]

Martyrdom

[stiff lava]

Opaaa so the funny hammer man I saw is a freak of nature thank you for clarifying

[placid fiber]

Marty has a higher max damage/attack speed bonus than inexorable judgement at the cost of, generally, lower resources(namely toughness) to work with

[stiff lava]

Ahhh I getcha I run martyrdom and the man had 11 wounds on Damnation somehow so my brain had neurons activate.. most upsetting but thank ya for the knowledge

[plucky gate]

the lower toughness isn't even really an issue. I'm pretty sure martyrdom builds have more effective toughness than other builds if you account for the toughness DR

i think around 4-5 wounds gone you make up for the lack of toughness curios from having the martyrdom DR node

[misty nova]

Shooters and Stalkers are more annoying towards you

Then you dodge once and become immortal again

[plucky gate]

Bored on my break so i decided to double check effective toughness math.

With toughness curios, 3x toughness and 3x perk, you'd have 166% effective toughness from your curios alone.

With Martyrdom build:
You'd have 115% toughness from 3x perk, and then with 5 wounds missing, you'd have 32.5% dr, meaning you'd have 115 * (1/(1-0.325)) = 170.37% effective toughess

Any other increases to toughness or DR would multiply both results the same, so the relative difference in stats are consistent regardless.

TL;DR: Losing 5 wounds on martyrdom is very slightly more effective toughness than a standard non-martyr build

[heady rapids]

that's pretty sad ngl
considering you also dont get a good cdr talent

[spare dome]

You forgot the flat 5% toughness nodes in your math

[plucky gate]

yeah that's a valid complaint
Needing to tax yourself 3 points to reach crit cdr if you want cooldown reduction is annoying

[misty nova]

Common martyrdom w

[spare dome]

You hit 50% pretty easily and those nodes are also additive with Martyrdoms TDR instead of multiplicative like the aura

[fleet zealot]

Cdr is a crutch

[plucky gate]

the tdr tax nodes are additive with martyrdom stacks? Makes it better if true

[heady rapids]

fathsk pls zelaot tree rework... you can remove ogryn from the game even......

[misty nova]

But I like playing Oggy

[grave cypress]

Kililng crushers with devil claw has become the new favorite thing for me to do in darktide

So satisfying

[misty nova]

My current meme build is Cleaver with Stamina and Sprint Efficiency, x3 3 stamina with Spr Eff

[grave cypress]

Thats a meme build?

[fleet zealot]

Yes

[grave cypress]

x3 stamina, sprint eff, block eff and stam regen is my goto on all my stuff

[misty nova]

It's a stamina Ogryn build
The thing is that Ogryn Stamina pool is already good and Cleaver is on the faster side of movement

[fleet zealot]

This isn’t vt2

stop being a stamina boomer, a single +3 stam and then stam regen gives all the stamina you need if you aren’t a literal true duo true solo speedrunner

[grave cypress]

I don't see the value of more toughness so 🤷

[fleet zealot]

Game is so dodged focus which is not connected to stam in DT you are perfectly fine going no stam besides KD psyker and PA heavy weapons

[misty nova]

My only reliable damage on that meme build is a Can Opener Ripper

[fleet zealot]

Well that’s cause you are a noob stacking toughness DR and max toughness makes your toughness generation talents that much better

[naive stirrup]

according to dorn it just randomly picks a region but i dont think that's right. seems to be trying to find the middle ground which is good especially for a game that punishes you for having worse internet

[fleet zealot]

Second wind? % based. Abilities? % based

Infinite recharging temp hp shield is absolutely the best thing to focus on

[heady rapids]

we may have found john darktide

[naive stirrup]

toughness also completely negates all ranged damage that's not a sniper until your toughness fully breaks
it will negate all melee attacks that aren't crusher/mauler overheads and some boss attacks as well if you have full toughness

[silver stag]

Still not free i see

[fleet zealot]

It can negate sniper shots

[grave cypress]

An under-rated value of tons of stamina / block resist is you rez teammates way better that isn't based around me being john darktide but the good teamplayer. :p

[naive stirrup]

it can? how much toughness do you need everytime i get hit i lose it all and most of my hp bar

[fleet zealot]

You just need enough damage reduction and toughness. It’s 125 damage with a 10x multiplier, so effective toughness vs snipers needs to be 1250 or greater, or have golden toughness

[heady rapids]

yeah if you're never taking damage im rooting for you w/ the max stamina builds

[plucky gate]

It feels just random to me
Picks EU when 3 are US
Picks asia when 2 are EU, 1 is USW and 1 is asia
Ignores what we pick in mission board
dumbest shit ever

[fleet zealot]

You can rez teammates with a single +3 curio on any class, besides ogryn who doesn’t even need that

[grave cypress]

chip damage is going to happen, but that happens even with higher toughness, the only time im going down is the second poxburster / one shots from crushers / 12 ragers.

Which I just feel like all those scenarios are not going to be helped with extra health/toughness

[fleet zealot]

How tf do you go down to 12 ragers with your build

[grave cypress]

?

Dunno if you're memeing, 12 ragers in close range in your face are going to kill you

[fleet zealot]

You have infinite stam and you have dodges you should be able to kill a dozen ragers easily

[winged aspen]

Someone dissing toughness curios? Insanity 🙏. GET HIM OFF zealot

[north sedge]

chip dmg happens less with more toughness

[fleet zealot]

Lol lmao, this person can’t handle a rager pack

[naive stirrup]

more toughness = % toughness regen talents regen more toughness per proc = more uptime on being completely immune to all sources of damage

[winged aspen]

He gets packed by ragers 🗣️‼️‼️

GET HIM OFF THE FIELD COACH 🗣️‼️‼️

TELL HIM TO SLAP ON TOUGHNESS CURIOS

[plucky gate]

🤓 um, actually it's 122.5 damage with 10x multi, so you need 1225

[fleet zealot]

My bad im noob

Also block focusing is just bad when so many of the best talents and blessings scale off dodging

[naive stirrup]

the game itself scales off dodging

[winged aspen]

Weaving*

[fleet zealot]

And in DT dodges are their own system so stam does nothing for them

[naive stirrup]

this isn't vermintide 2, which did work off a block and parry system
dodging in this game gives you i-frames

[winged aspen]

start shouting weave everytime an enemy tries to hit you

[naive stirrup]

if you can dodge wrench, you can dodge a ball

[fleet zealot]

Like there is a legit case for a +3 stam curio and 3x stam regen, lets you spam weapons that love to push attack, and it covers all your blocking needs imo

[grave cypress]

push attacks always take 20perc but yeah it regens faster

[naive stirrup]

that's more or less what i run
one +3 stam, 2 +17% toughness
3x gunner resist
3x stam regen
3x +5% toughness

[fleet zealot]

Plus weapon perks are better in DT so you always need to go for breakpoints

[heady rapids]

3 stam
3x curio chance
3x xp
3x dockets

[naive stirrup]

explode

[solar gorge]

the chad docketmaxxer

[fleet zealot]

Wasting weapon perks on stam stuff just isn’t good

[heady rapids]

well known fact that if a darktide player has to hit the target one (1) additional time they will literally die irl

[plucky gate]

the farming grindset

[fleet zealot]

This but unironically

[heady rapids]

make sure all your 3 stam curios are 400 rating or lower

[opal star]

breakpoints breakpoints I NEEd breakpoints I NEEDD to oneshot everything bro you dony understand bro fatshark has my family hostage

[heady rapids]

if a psyker w/ the 5% damage aura joins i skin them alive

[fleet zealot]

Actually psyker has 7.5% elites

[plucky gate]

what if there's 3 psykers and optimizing for different auras?

[heady rapids]

i skin one of them still

[opal star]

"what if there's 3 psykers" ill just kill myself

[fleet zealot]

Vet has 5% damage 🤓

[winged aspen]

Atp there’s no reason in playing the game

[heady rapids]

makes for a good example for the other two

[fleet zealot]

3 psykers means i get all the ammo and nades inb4 it’s 3 gunkers

[opal star]

the humble barrel:

[plucky gate]

I've actually seen psykers in havoc trying to coordinate auras in the lobby
I can't imagine caring enough to bother though

[fleet zealot]

I do that on zealot, usually im the beacon bitch

[spare dome]

its very easy to swap auras as Psyker

[opal star]

me going into quickplay with the dependable benediction + fotf setup for the 9929102101th time

[winged aspen]

Bro’s the designated welllock

[grave cypress]

https://imgur.com/a/osZpyJG

[fleet zealot]

But having both benediction and beacon is good

[opal star]

embed fail everyone laugh

[spare dome]

no reason for two psykers to have cdr aura when you can always painlessly switch to crit or elite dmg no matter what your build is

[stone fern]

yeah i think its the latter too. ladder? 🪜

[plucky gate]

yeah it's good, i just don't care enough

[grave cypress]

Dunno why the server is in complete lockdown mode slowmode not allowed to post anything mode. I envision some drama went down or something

[plucky gate]

it's just this channel actually. The other class chats don't have it

[winged aspen]

Racism

[heady rapids]

that's like the equivalent to drawing a soyjack

[grave cypress]

Is that a good or bad thing, Im not up on where that sits this month

[naive stirrup]

it's always a bad thing
always has been

[plucky gate]

zealot chat deserves to be oppressed

[heady rapids]

it's very high effort still but yeah

[opal star]

it's literally just this channel bc ppl didn't know how to behave like a week ago or so

[grave cypress]

Oh lol really? What happened?

[winged aspen]

I don’t think he knows racism is bad 💀

[heady rapids]

the f word

[opal star]

fuck

[misty nova]

2 years of freak posting

• Slur

[naive stirrup]

aight i can't be fucking asked to solo carry pubs in auric today dude how the fuck do people keep dying to one (count it 1) poxwalker

[heady rapids]

yeah we got locked down for saying fuck

[misty ravine]

F||GS Mk8||

[opal star]

sometimes you get caught lacking and smacked on the ass

[grave cypress]

There are a lot of people I don't recognize here today. I wonder if it was a raid from some website or something

[heady rapids]

yeah we're here on behalf of tanner lindberg

[opal star]

who tf is we

[winged aspen]

I only LFG for aurics and maelstroms. Cant do quickplay with randoms because they SUCK

[plucky gate]

idk most people here seem to be long time regulars

[naive stirrup]

it's all of them though
literally all of them
purge staff psyker dying to trash
shout + plasma + psword vet dying to trash
fotf knife zealot dying to trash
ogryns keep putting in work though

[opal star]

fotf knife zealot dying to trash is insane
I kinda get it for purg psyker cuz stagger is a joke
shout vet.. lmao

[grave cypress]

Yeah looking at a bunch of message histories and I guess its just me not knowing who they are lol my b

[naive stirrup]

[misty ravine]

I got Untouchable in auric maelstrom damnation with pubs by accident because we all happened to be shout vets lmao

[opal star]

honestly same
I went too hard as support vet one day and it just happened
genuinely the most fun way to get penances is to do them by accident

[normal wren]

Tbf most newbies just live in general or the lfg channels

[lapis nexus]

who can help with shocking stuff penance? need 3 big zealot (wo)men with flashes

[naive stirrup]

yeah currently you are the rando here
timezone moment

[frosty herald]

chat what do we think of the new psyker set?

[opal star]

psyker cosmetic that doesnt suck ⁉️ 🔥 🔥

[solar gorge]

it clips with itself

[grave cypress]

I was the one not terminally online for once

[misty ravine]

What else is new

[frosty herald]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1278540580976328790/1333499792222982257/image.png?ex=67991df5&is=6797cc75&hm=5bfc4fce16cdaa9099b7f901b5f86d5010661eb8eda60ee031a9e23e0c23fc01&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1202&height=676

shop resets thursday

[winged aspen]

Wait the shop resetted today?

[hard nexus]

they stole my blood….

[solar gorge]

no

[copper hawk]

yes

[grave cypress]

but its not a thursday why would it have reset?

[solar gorge]

one is lying, the other is telling the truth and does not smell

[frosty herald]

cosmetics leaked early with the hotfix

[grave cypress]

oh that psyker set looks really cool

[winged aspen]

Yo i need that set 💔

[grave cypress]

I wonder if other classes will be given more armour than cloth than the psyker in the same style, a bit like the power armour

[frosty herald]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1ib6teu/new_cosmetics_in_new_hotfix/

[grave cypress]

Okay more imperial guardy, interesting. Reminds me of medics

[carmine falcon]

I just want a zealot rope that looks as badass as the art in the skill trees instead of hobo tier, i like the whole preist manaic look

[normal wren]

Which one iz zealot lol

[grave cypress]

The one with the chainsword my friend

[solar gorge]

the one who's missing a pauldron

[frosty herald]

the first

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1333502937804050643/image.png?ex=679920e3&is=6797cf63&hm=66a8342f455c05e9a477b2c3f6fd18441bdfdbeea54c3fff465dd440b102acfa&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1202&height=676

[grave cypress]

If you scroll down in the thread they show a fuzzy hat for the ogryn too, that looks pretty nice

[frosty herald]

yeah some ushankas for classes and the ice shard greatsword

[grave cypress]

ice shard greatsword? That sounds amazing

[broken arch]

both sets (Zealot too) are nice

[frosty herald]

Only for psyker tho

[broken arch]

I mean the other screens, I saw the reddit post, the Zealot and Ogryn sets are also cool

[clever terrace]

Ogryn got a sundress?!

[misty nova]

Heh cool heh

[grave cypress]

pics?

[violet hornet]

Not in here

[remote lark]

new one?
or do u mean the one thats been in shop for a min

[frosty herald]

leaked rotation

[hushed knoll]

I miss Clad

[remote lark]

dm pic?

[blissful tendon]

smh these new age zealots
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/DCyptkrFAO

[violet hornet]

It's too bad he was banned

[frosty herald]

mf just scroll up

[remote lark]

w helmets

[hushed knoll]

No but you will be

[misty nova]

Idk, didn't like ogryn helmet

[remote lark]

dont like you

[misty nova]

[remote lark]

you have a differing opinion than me... and for that... you must... die...........

[misty nova]

🗣️

[misty ravine]

Is that another cadian rebreather helmet with no fucking visor

[violet hornet]

Don't threaten me with a good time

[misty nova]

Apparently Artillery Crew

[violet hornet]

Honestly all the "look you're wearing recolored scab armor" sets are a pass from me

[misty nova]

Psyker got the enclosed karskin helmet
Before Vet

[hushed knoll]

[frosty herald]

psyker got that drip

[misty ravine]

Neat, artillery needs eyepro too and why would you wear a rebreather but leave your eyes exposed

[misty nova]

🤷

Hold up
The open eyes one is whatever
There's this other that is artillery

[misty nova]

#theorycrafting message

[plush estuary]

day 6710 build, slow

[opal star]

meow meow meow AUUAUAUAUGGHHHHH

[hexed igloo]

Zelchat slomode day 1987 - I'm running low on both rations and morale, will probably drink my last can of water tomorrow

[opal star]

go ask ogryn chat for some rashuns

[misty nova]

Fem Agitator and Brawler talking about rations still peak banter

[clever terrace]

my, aren't we forward 😳

[sullen forge]

Look it’s good drip but this is further evidence Psyker is the favorite child now LMAO

[grave cypress]

Learnt it from Ogryn Tate

[stone fern]

#psyker-class message

[clever terrace]

does it work?

[grave cypress]

No

[stone fern]

tbh i think i should be the only one given image perms so i can post gold like the above

[clever terrace]

gold like max brightness? playing brighttide, not darktide, not even dimtide or shadedtide

[opal star]

no it should be me because I'm cool and awesome

[stone fern]

yes

i have bad night vision

[hushed knoll]

OMG CLAD I thought you were gone

[copper hawk]

Yah wellz i dont !!

[hushed knoll]

You should

[north sedge]

zoom in

[hushed knoll]

DOUGH NO 😠😠😠😠😠

[north sedge]

zoom in

[royal vortex]

Zoom. In.

[clever terrace]

zoom out

[carmine falcon]

deus mio this game is so much better when u have a team on comms
friendship ended with pubs, lfg is my new best friend

[solar gorge]

sorry, you're not a sigma

[carmine falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/not-a-sigma-sorry-you-are-not-a-sigma-sorry-you're-not-a-sigma-you-aren't-a-sigma-you-are-not-sigma-gif-337838532227751572
pretend that u can see this

[vestal oyster]

can someone explain to me why i would want to take the daggers over a grenade on zealot?

[clever swan]

infinity daggers

[vestal oyster]

having a hard time seeing how they fit into that slot when i could just shoot an elite with my bolter if i really need to

especially when the flame grenade is so good at fixing mistakes

[obsidian prairie]

Very good sniping weapon that lets you take something that can't snipe for a secondary, zero draw time: press button thing dies, best pathing as it requires you go through 2-3 really strong talents to get them

[vestal oyster]

hmmmm i seeeeee

[obsidian prairie]

If you want to make a good zealot build but take a grenade it literally costs 4 extra points

[normal wren]

Infinite anmo

[misty nova]

1-Pathing
2- 1hko headshot save for some enemies
3- Animation cancel (Bolter, flamer)
4-Rechargable
5-Range
6-12 of them by default

[vestal oyster]

looks like i need to give it more of a try

[spare talon]

Also the lack of grenades needed means more for your team, without sacrificing your kit to do so

[misty nova]

The throwing arc is also pretty forgiving

[vague depot]

and it sorta homes in a bit on weakspots

[plush estuary]

Hitboxes also increase with Tknives

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1189706800577118208/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.10.10_-_13.50.04.64.DVR_-_Trim_1.mp4?ex=6798bb0c&is=6797698c&hm=22e266e5c5537bd498c8b262a2678aa49abba58fda69a01348dea4a3c9c2aeb7& @violet root

[spare talon]

Woe
Zealot chat curse

[tribal fulcrum]

can thunder hammer zealot reliably oneshot any big targets?

[vague depot]

yea
can even oneshot a daemonhost if you put some effort into it

[tribal fulcrum]

is it all about impact then?

[obsidian prairie]

No, straight damage

[vague depot]

impact is just stagger that doesnt affect damage much

[plush estuary]

Impact is stagger not damage, never worth it, this isnt VT2

[tribal fulcrum]

im doing 1500dmg to crushers on full charge, so it's absolutely garbage right now.

[spare talon]

What are your blessings

[tribal fulcrum]

nothing.

[spare talon]

That's why
Thammer is a blessing dependant weapon

[vague depot]

run unyielding carapace thrust slaughterer i think

[obsidian prairie]

The humble 60% power bonus:

[spare talon]

Slaught/ht and thrust is literally night and day

[obsidian prairie]

a 40/25% nominal power bonus + 60% for near full charging heavies makes a bit of a difference

[tribal fulcrum]

does the mk of weapon matter a lot

[frank quail]

mostly just moveset changes

[obsidian prairie]

It mostly changes the activated attack, but the Ironhelm has a 3rd heavy

[vague depot]

for the thunder hammer choose crusis if you want better single target damage and take ironhelm if you want some slightly better horde clear

[obsidian prairie]

Crucis activated has like 1 poxwalker in cleave and is an overhead but does more damage than Ironhelm, which is a horizontal sweep with basically infinite cleave until it hits a special/elite

[plush estuary]

Let me just post a clip of me showing my thunder hammer---oh wait

[stone fern]

also worth mentioning ironhelm is a lot easier to aim its very forgiving in its big swings

[spare talon]

[hearty nebula]

[visual stream]

The Crucis does a little more activated attack damage but is slower and has a simpler moveset, the Ironhelm cleaves virtually* any amount of trash mobs. The Ironhelm is a little better imo as it does everything the Crucis can aside from a little more boss damage. It is up to preference though

[plush estuary]

whats the pfp? I though you were Eva for a sec

[hearty nebula]

octosoup

[plush estuary]

oh yeah, isnt this the artist that made those Warhammer GF's

[hearty nebula]

ya

[tribal fulcrum]

oh thrust is 60% strength at max, that's insane

[spare dome]

om nom black forest cookies

[north sedge]

can ironhelm hit crusher one shot now? (without chastise)

[plush estuary]

with maytr stacks

[spare dome]

i gave up on Ironhelm

[visual stream]

Easily yes, only 10 IJ stacks and it only gets easier with more slaughterer stacks

[north sedge]

crucis if i recall does it without, or maybe like 1 stack of something

[native chasm]

Imo I think the monstrosity damage on thammer was nerfed a bit too much in the last weapon change. I can live with it as is, but the bug where your charge can be turned off is game breaking at times

[tribal fulcrum]

is impact only staggering?

[obsidian prairie]

That isn't a bug, just how hitstun works
You should be running TWBS on it anyway though

[visual stream]

Monstro damage is perfectly fine, I chunk bosses even without Unyielding perk on my Ironhelm. I would prefer the activation to be fully fixed to what it was before but TWBS means it's w/e

[north sedge]

the "nerf" to boss dmg didn't actually change anything, it does basically the same

[stiff lava]

[native chasm]

I'm overall happy with what they changed to the thumper. I just like big number when I hit stuff

Biggest qol was one shooting crushers without abilities

[stiff lava]

I wish to acquire this knowledge

[visual stream]

Pretty sure it's a Crucis Shroudfield with full Martyrdom stacks build to do that, which is a meme but funny

[carmine falcon]

need perms back i wanna post funny scoreboard from havoc

[twin wagon]

Post them in Ogryn chat

[carmine falcon]

i guess i could

[naive wharf]

hey, can anyone help me get this shocking stuff penance? its ridiculous because i keep trying to get it on pubs, but the timing is never right with my grenades and the hordes, or there's one guy in the group who clears the horde right after i throw the grenade and i dont get anything from it

[north sedge]

Just use imgur or something

[misty nova]

Do you know how to backstab?

[primal fiber]

From my understanding “impact” is the % chance to cause a stagger while “stagger” is the duration/severity of a stagger

[primal fiber]

I had a guy in a game trying to get it and he just wrote in the game chat to not kill flashed hordes

[tribal fulcrum]

is it possible to use some weapon to chain stagger monstrosities? with for example impact + stagger build?

[hexed spade]

I don't think monstrosities can be chain staggered by weapons anymore. Ogryn used to be able to but they removed it. P sure only stagger for monstrosities zealot has is chorus

[heady rapids]

no, impact is just stagger power

[primal fiber]

Wait so what’s stagger

[heady rapids]

stagger is when they uhh

stagger? has varying levels and some enemies have stagger cd so they dont get perma locked
some stagger applicators like pickaxe special also do that

enemies have stagger resist in some of their animations also

[primal fiber]

Ok so ‘impact’ causes them to stagger and ‘stagger’ is how long/how severely they stagger

[heady rapids]

the mechanic stagger is basically that yeah, impact is a modifier to stagger force (and so is power)

https://youtu.be/t8_VTP2mglo
good video on the topic

[primal fiber]

Fatshark needs an in-game index/dictionary

[heady rapids]

wait until you learn about stuff like enemy slots

[hard nexus]

there isn’t a percentage chance to stagger, it’s guaranteed as long as you meet the breakpoint to stagger a particular enemy

[naive wharf]

32/40 stunned enemies

i wish every fatshark dev who didn't let us do solo like any normal game would a very painful random ball throbbing

[primal fiber]

Yeah % wasn’t super clear. I get that it’s like a meter that fills and not a dice roll

[raven nacelle]

finally

[raven nacelle]

Flak armor zealot is (almost) here

[fleet zealot]

There is no chance, you stagger or you don’t

[primal fiber]

Yeah % wasn’t super clear. I get that it’s like a meter that fills and not a dice roll

[fleet zealot]

Impact and stagger is the same stat under a different name iirc, basically the more you have, the farther into the stagger state you can send enemies

It takes more stagger to send a crusher flat on their ass than it does to make a poxwalker

Some mobs gain stagger resistance while attacking, like ragers, so you need more to break them out of their combo

[gusty cipher]

Like a heavy sword. Preferably towards the noggin.

[fleet zealot]

Monsters require specially tagged forms of stagger, and one of these types gives the monster resistance to staggers of this same tag preventing it from being staggered

Nades, rumbler and voidstrike surge proc to the head will trigger their stagger resistance for a short time. While stagger from abilities can be constantly used

[grave cypress]

I always thought Stagger built up to impact, then impact was its own calculation all this time, good to know stagger and impact are the same damn thing now

[misty nova]

It's like enemies have 3 health bars
Health
Stagger
Suppression
Except enemies that are immune to suppression

[sullen forge]

Unfortunately 50% of enemies are immune to suppression hence why it’s scoffed at

[misty nova]

Hmmm
I wonder if enemies that are immune are only immune because their period of suppression immunity works really well with the suppression decay

Imagine your suppression threshold is 50
Your immunity is 2.75 to 3.25
But your decay is that of 0.3

Oh well
I'm going down this rabbit hole just to find nothing

[rustic bobcat]

what's the consensus on beacon of purity

[plush estuary]

terrible outside 1 havoc modifer

[tawny walrus]

Does anyone have a decent choir girl build?

[misty nova]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ca461da-16ee-4c89-b61c-1e54ec2fd5e2/book-is-trash-stop-fcking-using-it

[placid fiber]

Me and Orcka locked tf in and did damnation hard mode twins x.x

[plush estuary]

damn, that is difficult

[tawny walrus]

Any changes if I want to run combat knife over ds?

[copper hawk]

[fleet zealot]

suppression is a whole nother thing cause some mobs also have different suppression recovery times

[clever terrace]

oooffftt

[placid fiber]

And I am working with less than 50% mental capacity atm x.x

[fleet zealot]

then again, ogryns type enemies can no longer be completely knocked prone by stagger

[misty nova]

Nope

[tawny walrus]

Thank you 🙏

[misty nova]

Knife is pretty good with a Piety Build
And well, that's a book Piety build

[fleet zealot]

just knocked down to their ass/knee

[fleet zealot]

there is one optional change, sub in a toughness curio and get a +3 stam curio instead for the knife Push attack, tho special->light combo is easier and better on knife generally

[misty nova]

(I only checked talents lol)

[tawny walrus]

[misty nova]

On the suppression topic, combat ranges also affects suppression 💀

[tawny walrus]

I wish I didn't have to path right for those starting zealout talents. Knife throwing is awkward on controller when it's mapped down

[violet root]

jarvis make me a greatsword lasgun build i’m too lazy to read

[misty nova]

And last time I checked Reapers didn't have "close" range

So you're more likely to get shot instead of punched if you get too close to a Reaper
Tries to find the video where our psyker got bashed by the gun and died

[copper hawk]

My hands r veiny.. am i dying !?

[violet hornet]

yes I'm sorry cica but you have been diagnosed with twink death

[violet root]

if you send hand pics i’ll know for sure im a docotr

[misty nova]

I just been emoted on by a Scab Bruiser for the past 20 seconds
I ain't testing suppression no more

[fleet zealot]

just rip the veiny out /joke

[copper hawk]

Ty 4 clarifyin it was a joke i was about 2 rip them out w my teef

[fleet zealot]

thanks i worry abuot someone taking a joke seriously cause that has happened before

[copper hawk]

It’s just for the cpu ?? The power supply and gpu stuff is fine.

[fleet zealot]

uhh gleep?

[misty nova]

Your veins are bad cable management
Take them out
Take them out

[copper hawk]

TROO actually wtff same w nerves smh my head intelligent design my FOOTE

[fleet zealot]

i got the radiator making noise again and my system can idle/do minimal stuff, i dare not test it on vt2 or another intensive game but i've gotten some makeshift airflow (I've taken the side panel off and using a portable fan to blow air through the radiator part

[naive wharf]

@mortal maple well i went solo into a high intensity auric damnation, was alone for about 1 minute before people joined, and i never ended up getting the penance :(

[fleet zealot]

yes both those fans are working, i can reach em and feel em spin if i wanted to

[naive wharf]

really just ended up being a weak link in the team, no ranged option for specials

[fleet zealot]

go heavy sword or chsword

or relic blade, high damage, high horde clear, no target caps.
If flamer isn't working for you, then use a gun

[tribal fulcrum]

does scourge just apply 1 bleed stack each hit no matter how big the hit is?

[mortal maple]

NO no nonono, you can't solo in a public game you need a private game. I meant for you to set up your group for that, you misunderstood.

[fleet zealot]

2 stacks when you crit

[naive wharf]

frick

[mortal maple]

It's private only, even if you do kill 40 as needed you won't get it.

[naive wharf]

dont you need a second person at least to do a private game?
also, it doesn't say anywhere that shocking stuff is a private only penance

[tribal fulcrum]

seems like a shit talent for bleed, but i guess it is entirely to get crit chance?

[mortal maple]

Unless they changed something it was.

[fleet zealot]

yes, it's entirely for crit chance

[tribal fulcrum]

i guess a quick weapon does great dmg to monsters

[mortal maple]

Also can maybe @ ainz it's almost a hobby for them to help people out - they're on vermintide atm though it looks like.

[fleet zealot]

shocking stuff penance doesn't need a private game, you just need to kill the horde quickly enough, my advice is to throw a 2nd stun about 3-5 seconds in

[tribal fulcrum]

is the hammer oneshot build all about shroudfield?

[mortal maple]

I haven't seen anyone oneshot a demonhost since the updates so don't even think you can anymore.

[fleet zealot]

i got my penace with heavy sword PRE talent tree rework, so stun nades were worse than they are now, heavy sword, relic blade and chsword all have enough horde clear to get the penance, flamer is just the easiest way

[misty nova]

It's doable

[fleet zealot]

hammer has been changed to do about ~25% less damage to unyielding but more damage vs other armor types, especially carapace. oneshotting monstros is harder

[tribal fulcrum]

does it matter, when you do 60% of it's health anyway? or something

[fleet zealot]

lots easier to play around 2-3 shotting bosses with a good all round build vs making your build only to kill monsters sometimes in one hit

[tribal fulcrum]

oneshot is obviously dumb to allow against THE ultimate boss

[mortal maple]

Don't really recall encouraging it, but yeah you can pretty easily two tap them. Even my build does it with no extra outside bumps.

[naive wharf]

can you make private match and get in game without needing a second person to join? i was under the impression that you needed at lesat 2 people in your strike team to start a private match

[mortal maple]

@naive wharf Guess they did change it. Still would be easier to get a group for it. Just have everyone on the same page. Having an ogryn will make it super easy if they have taunt or attention seeker - I was never really trying to get you to do any of this by yourself.

Just trying to go into something like a malice or a standard heresy is going to make it hard just getting 40 lads in one place for you to kill.

[fleet zealot]

you need 2 people for a private match, if you start a match solo it is public

[naive wharf]

nuts, i honestly dont even know why i was trying to get this penance, maybe the cosmetic and to get the first emperor penance for zealot
i got the harder veteran penances done way easier then this

[gusty cipher]

Tbh I got shocking stuff last night with a flamer on the first piece of gloriana

Dunno if that’s a consolation or a punishment, but barrel kills DO count!!

[mortal maple]

Yee, I had to go out of my way for it too. One of the few I did. You have to ask your party not to kill everything, get the horde in one spot, likely toss two grenades, and finally you'll get it. Not really something that happens organically most the time.

[gusty cipher]

(But it can still happen organically. You’ve just gotta kinda always be thinking about it like a weirdo)

[mortal maple]

Haha really just depends. I know at least two people who claim they got it by accident. One I don't believe the other I do (because they ALWAYS run stun grenades. )

[frozen ibex]

Slowmode.

[gusty cipher]

I’d believe it! Aside from that it’s just real niche, yeah. I almost fell out of my chair when it happened

[livid rampart]

What are good bolter blessings

[vague depot]

Puncture and shattering impact

[grizzled aspen]

You can run puncture + shattering for general purpose or puncture + cavalcade with piety to get 100% crit chance ~3-4 rounds deep in your mag with piety for mag dumping.

[copper hawk]

Yerp datz all the onez, but the cavalcade 1 is best 4 bosses; generally punct and shat r preferable for crusher bingo clubs

[fleet zealot]

yea you need to do hi int normal damnation imo, best hordes for the penance

[livid rampart]

Ah thank you! I was primarily using it for bosses in such given I’m pretty well rounded on everything else

[misty mason]

Is the event still going?

I haven't been playing since it was in auric which then became flooded with shitters

[copper hawk]

Was as of this morning

[tribal fulcrum]

assuming they got scourge then?

[fleet zealot]

till feb 10th

[misty mason]

I dont want to miss that frame

[grizzled aspen]

Scourge only applies to melee attacks.

[tribal fulcrum]

oh yeah

[fleet zealot]

scourge doesn't matter, shattering+ puncture has fixed breakpoints that is what makes it good, plus scourge is only melee

[misty mason]

But I've been playing ff7 and dynasty warriors

[tribal fulcrum]

how would it be 100% crit chance after 3-4 rounds? cavalcade after 3 rounds is 10% crit.

[fleet zealot]

piety works with ranged and scourge % crit chance still applies to boltgun while the buff is active tho idk what frog getting the numbers from

[tribal fulcrum]

scourge will not apply right, it falls off when the first shot is fired.

[copper hawk]

Snourge

[stone fern]

yeah it stacks only on melee but its general crit chance its generally just too hard to swap to melee and use it on most weapons

[fleet zealot]

the bleed buff doesn't work, the 30% crit chance does 3s after swapping, and you can use throwing knife cancel to pull bolter out much faster faster

[grizzled aspen]

Quite simple, I am insane.

[copper hawk]

Appeared 2 frog in a dream

[languid dagger]

Is there a mod to turn off aim assist on the flamethrower

[grizzled aspen]

I probably have been tknife switching so my crit chance on my hud shows 100% or something.

[tribal fulcrum]

blades of faith

[fleet zealot]

i if you have aim assist, you can't mod cause that's a console thing

[languid dagger]

do you know what a controller is

[fleet zealot]

I can't fathom purposefully using a controller but you do you, I'm guessing you can't turn it off for weapon specific, so your option is to turn it off before a flamer match

[fleet zealot]

i'm ste4aling this lmao

funniest shit i've ever seen

[clever swan]

phew no meme about me

that'd be embarrassing

[grave cypress]

Glad you like it lol, im way better at communicating through my art than my text so slowmode no picture mode on a channel on the server is pretty much the death of me

[fleet zealot]

it's not a chaxe so it's only 9/10 /joke

[ornate bone]

worry not my feline friend, we're yet another step closer to 1985

[copper hawk]

LMFAO this sticker rockz

[grave cypress]

Its just nice to be able to give people such happiness in what takes me like a minute of my time then get called cringe for it being so high effort.

The flattery and compliments just compound in on themselves and never sure how to take any of it

[copper hawk]

Good sticker ,,

[fleet zealot]

got this one for servers and friends to post out of context as well

oi cant' stop giglging lmao

[copper hawk]

Context.. uh oh ..

[grave cypress]

https://imgur.com/a/mmvf7bU

[copper hawk]

Epic embed snailure ,,

[grave cypress]

i dunno how im supposed to embedd in this scenario, im open to learning

[copper hawk]

Blood pact

[fleet zealot]

it's perfect

[violet hornet]

Wouldn't ferret tide be hordes of ferrets getting chopped up, rather than the ferrets doing the chopping?

[ornate bone]

ryan gosling eating cereal

[grave cypress]

wat

[fleet zealot]

ferrets are loyal servants of the emperor, it would be like AoS-tide

[copper hawk]

That's not ferret all ,,

[fleet zealot]

i can now ferret post IN CONTEXT of darktide with stickers, mods can't stop me

[undone pewter]

They're pretty rad

[fleet zealot]

symbol has given me the best reaction out of anyone when i tell them their build is bad, usually i just get death threats /joke

[vague depot]

Their reaction is those images?

[fleet zealot]

lemme get the main one out https://imgur.com/a/osZpyJG here ya go

[vague depot]

Good shit

[opal star]

lack of image perms be damned

[fleet zealot]

#zealot-class message for lore nerds who want full context before they enjoy something

instead of being like me and simply pretending to know all the meta jokes of this server

https://x.com/nettaiclub/status/1883845190563295327 ferret got too excited eating soup

[copper hawk]

Even 1 stamina curio is heresy ,,

[placid fiber]

I still can't believe that fucking twins hard mode where me and orcka clutched out the win in it together... I had the mk taxe and had no clue how to use it so I was legit light spamming and somehow not failing lol

I got me the damnation twins completion with that one lol

[copper hawk]

Twins is soooo easy now lmfao power creep moment

[placid fiber]

I only halfway know what to do during that fight in the normal mode x.x

[copper hawk]

U need like 1 chastise zeal w ds 4 and a chain weapon user for the shields

[hearty nebula]

april fools update idea: make replace healing stimms with random pox stimms that instantly take away one wound's worth of health

[placid fiber]

We had a ds4 zealot(orcka) and me using the mk2 taxe(which I didn't know how to use properly) >.>

[copper hawk]

Kill rodin asap then just kinda dogwalk rinda is rlly easy - for more easy use an oggy hh w taunt or trample

[placid fiber]

The other 2 were newer players who died before the 2nd phase even started :/

[copper hawk]

For more easy use wtff my brain is melting

[placid fiber]

So me and orcka had to somehow clutch it out while I was half out of it x.x

[copper hawk]

That's impressive did u guyz win ? Also, alternatively, u could use a stealth zeal w a ds 4 for a more consistent way 2 hit them

[placid fiber]

It got me my 1st damnation completion and the hardmode completion and yes lol

[copper hawk]

Good job !! That's tuff w 2 dead playerz and no chain wpn

[placid fiber]

idk how I didn't die so many times lol

[grave cypress]

Ive always thought they could add a really interesting deep mechanic with stims rather than just consumables you use and forget about.

It'd be cool that if you choose to stab a person on the team repeatedly more with more stims than anyone else they build up some sort of vulnerability to that type of stim. So if you all keep stabbing that one team mate with DMG stims they acutally start to get more powerful with every extra stab.

Would add some added decision making and make stims a little more interesting than a consumable you quick use and think no more of it

[copper hawk]

April fools event is that they change all the elites to their vt2 equivlanet

[hearty nebula]

no thanks

[clever swan]

maybe it corrupts when they get injected 3+ times but it still buffs

[solar gorge]

there's vt2 related frames sitting in the files

[placid fiber]

on top of it I popped the ranged one's shield too early like... 5 times >.>'

[copper hawk]

I want a screenshot of carnival part 1 of like an ogryn w a pickaxe staring at a stormvermin patrol w like a side by side of back to ubersreik slayer w a pickaxe staring at a normal sv patrol

[solar gorge]

just got the frame for stim addiction, i didn't even know they added that

[copper hawk]

Idk if it'd be even feasible to port stormvermin over as a like april fools joke or a skulls thing

Ive wanted this since the first Skulls event

[frosty herald]

we have nurglings from fasnacht

[clever terrace]

Hardmode twins was an experience

[copper hawk]

Softmode twins

Brittlemode twins

[placid fiber]

Especially if you were like me and was still learning how to do the normal mode twins fight >.>

[clever terrace]

Honestly have no clue on what you're supposed to do. I did it during the event and was either carried or mucked my way through. It was a while ago now.