zealot-class

[clever swan]

i have no idea how worker thread counts work

[carmine falcon]

yeah i got 12 cores so by lowering it to 12 it worked wonders

[clever swan]

i have mine at 16 and it works okay, though i have 32 threads. i also change darktide's affinity to only use more obscure cores (aka at least not the first 4 cores)

i dont know if it helps at all, i drop down to like 110 fps (with frame generation) during big hordes. and that isnt very good at all...

[carmine falcon]

ill try messing around with affinity, if only this game scaled when u drop settings to low, too many enemies on damnation and above for me to notice pretty graphics anyway

[clever swan]

some group of people should do some benchmarks or some shit. use creature spawner, empty the psykhanium, and spawn 400 poxwalkers and have them chase you around for 2 minutes. test this for each thread count across multiple cpu models (at least 1 AMD and 1 Intel), get data

[clever terrace]

yeah i've got 8, 8 threads was good, but 9 seems peak

[finite crater]

i have 12 but i can only set it to 10 on launcher settings

[fleet zealot]

izu

[light badge]

zealot chat still in the timeout corner

remind me what was so bad? I forgot lol

[carmine falcon]

many names i usually see here are not posting anymore

[placid fiber]

general types of "freakposting", as they called it, and the last straw of someone posting a slur in a picture and defending said picture

[placid fiber]

some of them moved to the psyker chat, I just am bouncing between the class chats and general chat

[carmine falcon]

oh i rarely check other chats cause i dont play other classes lmao

[light badge]

so everyone gets punished permanently for the actions of a few dorks?

[placid fiber]

It's not permanent. This was the alternative solution to a semi-mass banning, eventually we'll get stuff back

[remote lark]

owo's detected

[light badge]

@remote lark omg haiiii

[remote lark]

omg hiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[fleet zealot]

It is permanent welcome to limbo /joke

[placid fiber]

[light badge]

🏳️‍🌈 🫵

[clever terrace]

I for one stan our new 30 seconds overlords.

[remote lark]

🪞

[acoustic dune]

please dant say stan
you might spawn taco stan

[remote lark]

@hushed knoll ❓

[signal spoke]

too much shouting and freaks

[light badge]

🪞 ♾️ 🪞
💥

[hushed knoll]

what's up

[remote lark]

the sky

[copper hawk]

[placid fiber]

You were used for a joke, earlier, which is why you got pinged >.>'

[tawdry leaf]

there is no owos, its all in your head

[copper hawk]

[placid fiber]

someone said something about the cicatrix maeldictus or w/e

[clever terrace]

lies and slander

[clever terrace]

the giant chicken?

[placid fiber]

it's apparently the "great rift"(Cicatrix Maledictum) in 40k, but, I like your version better

[clever terrace]

yeah, it was a bit i did in general earlier.

although honestly i only know a little about it from mentions in darktide and sm2. i don't keep up with lore much

[placid fiber]

There's so much 40k lore... I'd be old and gray before I finally fully caught up on everything at this point >.>'

[acoustic dune]

not gonna the heavy sword is a pretty neat weapon
i perfer it more it more then the devil claw

[grand tangle]

zealot chat is still in chains

[pale spindle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/cQKVLx8DF1Y?si=Zp87XMkvhTQ6ui6L

[gray ice]

The big slow of 2025

[hushed knoll]

Hi vin

[vocal pulsar]

they should limit posting speed to 12 hours per post

[stone fern]

you should limit yourself to one post a year

[vocal pulsar]

i agree

[grand tangle]

yall just can't behave

[winged aspen]

🤫

[sullen forge]

Full 24 hours

[clever terrace]

and?

[north sedge]

zealot chat should be relegated to sending a chain letter through the postal service

[stone fern]

tbh, relic has ass dodges even thammer is more wieldy

[vocal pulsar]

thank you for your honesty

[modern lintel]

its still considerably better then thanmer tho

[stone fern]

you've already used up your post quota for the next 3 years

[stone fern]

im talking about dodges not dps

[modern lintel]

i just use chastise to supplement if my dodges crumble

[stone fern]

something is fucky with it feels like you're walking in quicksand

[modern lintel]

would be cool if they added agile to relic blessing pool

[stone fern]

maybe doges reset slower or something

[solar gorge]

it's p bad, kinda like the psword

but then with relic you can just kill everything in front of you so don't have to dodge too much

[north sedge]

Probably why

[atomic matrix]

ok, want to ask if this build i had are good to work or the issue to Zealot correctly is on the way im using them, because i feel im underpefroming with them, what you folks think?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e10002d-87a7-4ff3-aa75-5655a11f6f32/rblade
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e10001e-4592-4177-b103-6be4929918d9/medic-5
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e100007-327e-4dbe-be2b-e7b0c9dc466f/marthyr
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e100035-d798-41a1-87c3-0eaa2547fa62/hammer

[vocal pulsar]

get rid of the stam curio, first

[stone fern]

no dont

[drowsy steppe]

stam curios are based

[vocal pulsar]

not at all needed on zealot. more impactful on vet

[heady rapids]

me on knife trying to revive a teammate with 4 base stamina (he is gonna die)

[carmine falcon]

stamina my beloved

[drowsy steppe]

apart from removing health curio for more toughness curio. Relic, medic and hammer build is solid

[atomic matrix]

isnt one stam and rest health/toughness not good? (i get in on Ogryn because they have a lot and they burn it anyway)

so all curious should focus on toughness instead of healt?

[drowsy steppe]

its toughness x3 or toughness x2 + stam

[carmine falcon]

toughness x2 with stam and toughness regen on dodge perks makes u unkillable unless there's a poxwalker blocking your crusher overhead dodge

[naive stirrup]

one +3 stam curio, 2 +17% toughness curios

health on zealot isn't really needed unless you are running martyrdom

[remote lark]

@naive stirrup

[drowsy steppe]

martyr build you might wanna go for second wind over EWEW. Losing out on sustained assault is fine

[remote lark]

vodka hiiiiii ><

[naive stirrup]

[clever terrace]

stealth
no issue

[naive stirrup]

stealth
you are the reason he died in the first place

[heady rapids]

no real players actually run stealth

[clever terrace]

i'm in @tawdry leaf 's head apparently anyway, so i'm not real

[naive stirrup]

i have a newfound hatred for stealthlots because they keep pressing the button when they're getting overheaded and it keeps killing me because i get zero cues
same with infiltrate vets

[solar gorge]

that's the funniest way to teamkill

[tawdry leaf]

youre not real!!!

[vocal pulsar]

i'd like to see stealth removed. and replaced with something more interesting. for both classes

[clever terrace]

buzzzzz, buzz buzz buzz buzz

[tawdry leaf]

you do not exist!!!

[naive stirrup]

had it happen while playing with some streamer, combine and dorn yesterday
fucker kept doing it
the streamer lol
combine and dorn were crashing out just as hard as i was lmao

[solar gorge]

this guy is legendary

[broken plover]

Hello everyone What are the best perks and blessings for relic blade?

[solar gorge]

i wish i could tk with crusher overheads like them

[clever terrace]

I'm not wicked! I am not!

[sullen forge]

The get out of jail free use instead of oh idfk using it how it’s intended aka Recon and Flanking enemies in cover or ahead of the group lmao

[naive stirrup]

perks are flak + maniac
blessings are cranial grounding + rampage

[naive stirrup]

if you are frontlining with stealth
i wish you a merry pipebomb

[naive stirrup]

dont read into that too much :)

[carmine falcon]

i wanna dump heat on relic blade for funnies

[uneven galleon]

I love shroudfield as it literally doesn't make me accountable for my screwup and instead burdens my team

[naive stirrup]

oh no it does lol, if you play too close to your team you WILL get them killed

[atomic matrix]

you ppl dont use shroudfield to dive near the gunners to fight them for an opening to push forward for the team?

[uneven galleon]

No I speedrun through the map and make it their problem

[solar gorge]

i use shroudfield so i can eat almonds mid match

[misty ravine]

That really activated my almonds

[carmine falcon]

why do that when u can literally fotf into thme stunning them and killing them with light spam

[frosty herald]

decimator and perfect strike

[fleet zealot]

why when fotf pathing is better and does the same thing without dropping aggro on your team

why when chorus mass CCs the gunners and you can do an advance with it. shroudfield pathing is also just the worst imo

after good balance/twbs it's just so meh

[atomic matrix]

im my dumb brain because hammer, so you can dive near enemies like it or use the bonk to erase bosses

[fleet zealot]

vet stealth is WAY better for diving gunners because it does a mass suppresion aoe on cast and on breaking stealth+ 10 seconds of no aggro

[atomic matrix]

any suggestion for a build using IJ? i lack something good for it

[sullen forge]

You literally use it to push into areas that aren’t already grabbed by Agro to take heat off your team, just no one fucking does that

[fleet zealot]

hammer uses IJ

[modern lintel]

martydom hammer my beloved

[naive stirrup]

your job as stealth is to assassinate elites and specialists

[fleet zealot]

especially hammer stealth cause god damn having no cdr with stealth is pain

[atomic matrix]

that's the idea of my build, trying to get near them and play wakc-a-heretic

[stone fern]

yeah uhmm lemme just steal in kill one sniper and fucking die after having 2912 gunners flip on me

[sullen forge]

Literally, if there’s a mauler pack ahead you know you can’t avoid that hasn’t been agroed, stealth push into them and start killing them before they become an issue to the team or even yourself

[naive stirrup]

prioritize
gunners over snipers

[stone fern]

dont need stealth for that

[naive stirrup]

fury of the faithful my beloved

[sullen forge]

Snipers can be avoided gunners cannot unless you’re actively being a detriment and running a suppression build

[atomic matrix]

reason why i dun a gun to supress sometimes with it, if there are so many shoot to kill and supress

[naive stirrup]

i've taken to running triple gunner resist

[atomic matrix]

wait, do headshoting from behind an enemy counts as a backstab for Pious Cut-throat?

[grizzled aspen]

Backstabs consider what angle the enemy is facing and where you're standing relative to them. You can headshot things and still get backstabs.

[frosty herald]

instructions unclear agro dump on my team

[sullen forge]

I guess give a jank example of how to abuse the fuck out of it more in depth cause I never bothered with anything backstab related

[opaque island]

backstab damage % buff and headshot damage % buff is what lets you do silly things like one/two shot daemonhosts

[grizzled aspen]

Iirc duellist is not actually involved in dh 1tap.

[opaque island]

my ignorance is showing

[grizzled aspen]

6 stacks of martyrdom, perfectionist shroudfield, backstab damage, unyielding + thrust on hammer... I'm sure there's other things involved but I am not awake enough to remember them.

[clever terrace]

It seems to be a wide angle too.

[grizzled aspen]

Oh also purge the unclean is involved, free 20% unyielding from that talent.

[opaque island]

the fact i use double chastise instead of shroudfield is why im always going to be 2 shotting daemonhosts insteado f 1 shotting them

[sterile basalt]

120 degrees behind for melee backstab

180 degrees behind for ranged backstab

[plush estuary]

day 126 posting my build, slowmode

[grizzled aspen]

I was typing out that it was 120 degrees to my knowledge, glad my memory isn't failing me yet.

[opaque island]

head empty, 0 thought, brain smooth, happy

[sullen forge]

Not enough, BY TAAL! FIGHT! KILL! DEATH!

[plush estuary]

Playing today?

[sullen forge]

When I’m off work most likely aka in like 3-4 hours

[rare shadow]

2👏4👏 6👏8👏
For whom do we self flagellate?
The Emperor
The Emperor
The god. King. Emperor.

[plush estuary]

@spare talon wanna level someone with us?

[solar gorge]

it's flagellate mate

[rare shadow]

It's not a word I use often.

[sullen forge]

Also genuine question, Rotshields, their chest is their weakness right cause I noticed the bloated chest I just never really bothered aiming for it cause I’m usually swarmed by chaffe

[solar gorge]

flatulate means farting

[plush estuary]

when they open up, yes the chest is their weakspot

[rare shadow]

Yeah I got that lmao

[vague depot]

Yea the shield is also opened up by doing damage instead of stagger because why tf not

[rare shadow]

Autocorrect doesn't know what word I meant.

[sullen forge]

Noted, glad I’m instantly recognizing weaknesses on the enemies lmao

Stormvermin I’ve literally chalked up as smash their skull in as much as possible

[remote lark]

i made an ogryn

[vague depot]

Maulers are a bit weird because idk if I want to hit the superarmor head for headshot damage or go for the body because it’s unarmored

[modern lintel]

chest unless ds or knife

[vague depot]

Vermintide maulers

[solar gorge]

depends on how ur weapon performs against carapace and flak

[sullen forge]

VT2 Right? Cause I’ll be honest I think it’s just chest I’ve noticed that it staggers them more

[vague depot]

Yea I can’t remember the breakpoints anymore but I feel like I would still aim for the head

[sullen forge]

The only enemy I’m kinda slamming my head against a brick wall against are Chaos Warriors in their full armor with the mauler attack patterns, I don’t get hit by them I’m just wondering if there’s a way to actually effectively kill them

[solar gorge]

oh vt2, head is better in most cases

[signal spoke]

big lad

[grizzled aspen]

You are an ogryn. 🚬

[solar gorge]

heavy attack headshots

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah normal chaos warriors you just have to headshot to death.

[signal spoke]

Like 99% of the enemy roster in VT2

[vague depot]

If for some reason your weapons can’t penetrate super armor just bomb them and call it a day

[sullen forge]

So crushers just not Ogryn sized, noted

Aka keep fucking hitting it in the head till it falls over dead, I still gotta learn how to deal with packmasters cause I know there’s a way to avoid getting disabled by them

[vague depot]

You need to time the dodge properly, make sure to dodge to the side

[solar gorge]

ik it sounds disrespectful but dodging

[sullen forge]

Outside of just kill them, quickly caught onto Gutter Runners with how they work

[vague depot]

The moment it looks like they are rearing back a bit to lunge forward is when you want to dodge

[sullen forge]

Explains a lot cause I’d dodge back and next thing I know there’s a noose around my neck and I’m getting dragged behind a wall

[signal spoke]

Packmaster grabs are awkward to predict between frames and their animation

[solar gorge]

their animation hides a short range projectile iirc or some shit

basically it goes further than the visual, it's just a trapper that drags u

[sullen forge]

I’ve only dumped 20 hours in the game and I’ve somehow only gone down once, idfk if that’s good or bad LMAO

[vague depot]

Just move the moment they start moving
The timing gets worse if you aren’t the host

[sullen forge]

Quickly noticed that a lot of shit I’m used to gets drastically changed when you’re at all lagging it’s unfortunate but it’s whatever

[solar gorge]

at least in vt2 you can put the blame on host instead of fs

[vague depot]

It’s hella worse on vermintide when everything 1-2 shots you lmao

[sullen forge]

Cataclysm experience

[grizzled aspen]

After about 5min of playing around with toy box I have figured out I can make myself be absolutely ginormous in rogue trader.

[sullen forge]

William Dafoe looking up in fear gif when a stormvermin flanks you and you Didnt hear the overhead it’s about to hit you with on Cataclysm

[solar gorge]

light work for the chad IB

[opaque island]

good game

[acoustic dune]

ey ey zealot
sleeping
is it cringe
or
keke

[opaque island]

there goes 70% of your health bar, good luck

[grizzled aspen]

Yes, excellent game. I'm going through it again, but this time, I've used toy box to give myself all psyker disciplines from the get-go, as well as the other two forge world bonuses you dont get to take.

Also removed both the +5 and -5 stat things you get in character creation just because I don't like them.

I wish I could just skip the prologue with a handful of buttons to clarify my choices but that seems to not be possible.

[opaque island]

which allignment are you shooting for this time?

[grizzled aspen]

Heretic. :)

I want to use the daemon sword that requires 5 in heretical alignment.

[hallow oxide]

Hey I wanna start using the tactical axe, what blessings do y’all recommend on it and what gun should I pair it with?

[grizzled aspen]

Alternatively I could just, yknow, use toy box to force a t5 heretical alignment and play normally as an iconoclast.

[grizzled aspen]

Taxe only slows down when fighting carapace, so I'd bring a boltgun with shattering + puncture. Lemme answer your question with a question, what keystone do you plan to run?

[spare talon]

Headtaker bm with piety, boltgun shattering puncture

[grizzled aspen]

^^^

[hallow oxide]

Piety

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah then do what Cole suggested. Headtaker will stack strength so you can oneshot stuff, bm will actually let you clear hordes, crit adms and cdr will allow you to deal with armor outside of boltgun usage.

[carmine falcon]

remind me fellas what do i put on zerona to turn it into ez mode

[hallow oxide]

Cdr?

[grizzled aspen]

Surgical + hand cannon, perks are iffy to me, I run flak unarmored just so I can guaranteed drop a gunner in one shot without waiting on a crit.

[grizzled aspen]

Invovation of death, it's cooldown regen speed when you crit. Essentially, it halves chastise charge times and, with piety, you'll have it up almost 100% of the time.

[carmine falcon]

thanks
been wanting to use something that actually requires me to aim and not just magdump (ive been spamming flamer and boltgun)

[grizzled aspen]

Try exe stance boltgun on vet. :)

[carmine falcon]

id have to level up a vet in order to do that, im a 1 trick pony

[modern lintel]

vet bolter in mini monstro mael is evil

[hallow oxide]

Does it matter which mark of the tactical axe I use, currently running the Mk 7

[grizzled aspen]

It's my guilty pleasure to run in monstrous specialists just because I can drop a plogryn in one mag.

[carmine falcon]

exec stance does look fun af ill run that over the goofy shout when i level up a vet

[modern lintel]

you dont even rlly need exe stance tbh

[grizzled aspen]

The model you use is entirely up to preference. I run mk2 because I feel heavies have the best angle to make use of bm and they stagger ragers.

[carmine falcon]

i just forget that boltgun has aim down sights firing mode cause mag dumping close range is just so effective

[vocal pulsar]

ADSing bolter is the best way to use it on vet

[grizzled aspen]

I run the no sights plug-in for weapon customization and a crosshair mod to ads with boltgun. The irons suck and it jumps around far too much to bother aiming with.

[modern lintel]

still waiting on a new mk where its switched

[carmine falcon]

i see people counter that by quickscoping and that looks pretty fun

[frozen kernel]

Speaking of shout one of my pub vets last week was actually running the revive node

I was getting our psyker up and suddenly he just "STAND TOGETHER FIGHT TOGETHER" and it finished the revive

[sullen forge]

@plush estuary I do want to state how I really like in VT2 how you can actually avoid patrols vs DT where it’s way fucking harder too

Don’t need to fight the pack of stormvermin if you simply just avoid them lmao

[plush estuary]

yup

[heady rapids]

so he basically didnt contribute anyhow cause you would've revived the fella anyway
and had to run that shitty node for the whole game

poor fella
wish someone would've told him....

[obtuse stirrup]

Unfortunately it feels better to scrape people off the floor than it does to stop them from hitting the floor at all, to a lot of people

[heady rapids]

can we stop adding troll nodes for 5 minutes fatshark pls 🙏

[hallow oxide]

@grizzled aspen you said puncture/shatter on the bolt gun?

[frozen kernel]

DT maps seem like they'd definitely allow for this type of skirting given how we already deal with daemonhosts, but the players would have to convince each other not to aggro the squad by trying to completely clear the map lol

[grizzled aspen]

Yes. It let's you 4shot a crusher from any distance.

[hallow oxide]

The perks matter? Currently have unyielding and carapace on it

[frozen kernel]

Maximum ogryn racism, good

[grizzled aspen]

Good, those are what you want on it. Other perks don't change breakpoints for you in any meaningful way.

[hallow oxide]

I also have mobility as my dump stat, all the others are at 80

[misty ravine]

All Fucking Bulwarks Must Fucking Hang.

[grizzled aspen]

That's the right dump stat. Some argue for collateral as the dump, but for zealout, I dont think it really matters.

[hallow oxide]

I assume I’m mostly saving the bolt gun for crusher waves and bosses?

[grizzled aspen]

Crusher waves and elite trains. Bosses are just stage hazards to you when you're using taxe. You'll do a significant chunk of damage just by hitting them with your crit adms and duellist doing the work for you.

[spare talon]

2 or 7, I personally prefer the 7
Just whichever moveset you like more

[grizzled aspen]

Also bulwark racism. If you don't want to play the turn based game with him for 30s, you can just dodge and mag dump the back of his head until he dies.

Chat, convince me why I shouldn't turn Idira over to the inquisition.

[acoustic dune]

which weapon yall speaking about?

[grizzled aspen]

Boltgun.

[acoustic dune]

ah
arent all range weapon dump stat arguably be jsut mobility

[grizzled aspen]

That depends on the weapon. Collateral affects stagger, which, for most weapons, is bad. It is always the dump on recons.

[drifting wolf]

original ogryn stubbers don't like collateral for stagger as well

[grizzled aspen]

Theres one weapon that I dont remember right now where collateral affects your maniac adm. Otherwise, collateral is just bad because that means its harder to hit headshots.

[acoustic dune]

i actually would argue that stagger is great on reaper

[grizzled aspen]

You don't stagger a reaper, dingus. You suppress him. Stagger and suppression arent the same.

[acoustic dune]

tomato potato
stop my enemy the same
one just make them fall on there arse

[grizzled aspen]

By the time you manage to stagger a reaper with a gun, you've already killed him, is what I'm getting at.

[remote lark]

kid named boltgun:

[drifting wolf]

fear my aoe suppression death cone

[grizzled aspen]

I have heard no arguments in Idira's defense, I will be handing her over to the inquisition as soon as possible.

[broken walrus]

I shot Idira cuz the choice said Dogmatic. Didnt read the rest of it

[grizzled aspen]

She's a screeching whiner and I can't really stand to have her in my party, especially considering just about every time I dare using a major power on her, she decides to explode and summon a daemon.

[broken walrus]

is there a reason she blows up more? I feel like Henrich never has any warp shenanigans

[obsidian prairie]

She’s unsanctioned

[grizzled aspen]

Because she's unsanctioned.

Sanctioned psykers have a -20% chance to trigger perils of the warp. She, being unsanctioned, does not have that bonus, and instead has a +1 to her psi rating instead.

[obsidian prairie]

I ran idira as a pyro/diviner and she could drop a bit over a thousand first round plus buffs

[gusty cipher]

HOWEVER. She’s probably got some of the best reactivity and really helps out in ambush situations

[obsidian prairie]

Pulling up to footfall with Idira in the party is great

[grizzled aspen]

That's really cool and all but I have this navigator lady that calls me studmuffin that does Idira's job better than she does.

[gusty cipher]

So hear me out

[stone fern]

farming havoc completions by demoting myself to zero

[grizzled aspen]

You were gonna get demoted to zero anyway, noob... 🚬

[gusty cipher]

The cigarette drag really adds insult to injury

[solar gorge]

finally got a force greatsword, it might be awesome

imma pretend it came out today and i'ts brand new

[frosty herald]

lambda is actively going insane

[gusty cipher]

Fr though, how about both? Idira is also sorta a must have for act 3. Like the world feels more alive with her there. Lotsa warp nonsense

[solar gorge]

i played 4 damnation match with sub 300 infantry lasguns as a lvl 21 psyker

[grizzled aspen]

Because my party comp involves allowing my rt to oneshot everything, and she does not contribute to that, despite being an operative.

[hard nexus]

i ran idira and cassia in my party at all times

the warp veil was constantly near zero and it was awesome

[obsidian prairie]

Yarp

[grizzled aspen]

0 veil degradation, noob... 🚬

Suffer like a real psyker, go mad at max degradation, oneshot bosses.

[frosty herald]

idira is too annoying to run in a party seriously with her summoning a demon or proning my team at the worst possible time

[hard nexus]

i meant near max
i havent played in so long i couldnt remember which way it went

[solar gorge]

you can charge up the force gs by killing what the glorp

[gusty cipher]

Tbh more operatives in a party just makes every operative stronger imo. Idira, Pascal, and Yrliet have such good synergies.

Occasionally summoning a bloodletter that cleaves through half your team is a worthy sacrifice for her hitting for such absurd amounts of damage in a cone

[solar gorge]

hold on, this, weapon design, is it fire ??

[obsidian prairie]

Idira taking one for the team in the final boss fight (getting hit with a stray overpen from my RT and dying instantly)

[grizzled aspen]

Pasqal exists to spam plasma gun and oneshot everything. :)

[gusty cipher]

YOU HAVENT DISCOVERED ULTIMATE SUPPORT PASCAL THAT CAN STILL NUKE WIRH A PLASMA GUN?

You sweet summer child

[obsidian prairie]

I feel like pascal misses too much

I ran Yrliet over him because she doesn’t miss ever while doing comparable or better damage

[gusty cipher]

Area attacks and a couple of his unique talents solve the problem for the mostpart.

[obsidian prairie]

My iconoclast run was fucked

I got the kill the Defiler without killing the plasma cells achievement in like 3-4 rounds

[grizzled aspen]

Yrliet is really good but she takes far too long to get the damage I need, plus relying on assassin openings is iffy.

[obsidian prairie]

I didn’t run assassin for her, I ran bounty hunter

[grizzled aspen]

I'm unironically thinking about using toybox to force respec Pasqal into a warrior and use him as a melee tank.

[obsidian prairie]

Armor and Deflection be gone

[grizzled aspen]

He's got some ludicrous armor potential but lacks the action economy to use melee that much.

[obsidian prairie]

I love giving ablelard 20 deflection with heavy armor

The one that gives 1 deflection per 10 carouse

[hard nexus]

how is the new pyromancer tree? i haven’t played in forever

[frosty herald]

Obliterate that specific dude with the surface of the sun

[obsidian prairie]

Pyro does pretty good damage but their high tier damage stuff doesn’t ignite unless they torch their armor below a certain point

You need lots of attacks to make the best use of it, so playing arch militant is highly beneficial for it

[grizzled aspen]

Does the phrase "fire railgun" spark your interest?

[obsidian prairie]

Or the silly item that gives you psi rating extra attacks on first round

[grizzled aspen]

If you want to make the best usage of pyromancer, you take warrior and arch militant. Warrior because you get endure and part of pyro involves lighting yourself on fire, so that free extra wounds is a very nice thing to have, and arch militant so you can take wildfire and spam out three molten beams per turn, oneshotting everything you touch with them.

You also do some silly crit stacking, and you can critmaxx by taking sanctic powers and grabbing sanctified slayer as a passive, then bringing Heinrix to spam word of the emperor and get free resolve stacks. (sanctified slayer counts resolve as crit chance)

[obsidian prairie]

I’m planning to play my heretical run as a pyro bladedancer

But am too poor for void shadows

[grizzled aspen]

I would save up for the season pass instead.

Void shadows added a lot of content, you can expect subsequent dlcs to add just as much, if not more. It would likely be more cost efficient to buy the pass than just one dlc.

[obsidian prairie]

I know but that is whats currently available for dlc

[solar gorge]

force gs is so good i'm sorry i couldn't be here when it released damn

[broken walrus]

I abandoned my Zealot ways to be a spark head for awhile when force GS came out

[solar gorge]

i'm sorry force gs...i will never let you down again

[solemn cliff]

I did my pyro as warrior/executioner.

[solar gorge]

a thousand psyker matches in penance for ignorance

[frosty herald]

Void shadows adding a whole ass base for you to raid and then park it next to your capital even though you have max security

Imperial tithe will be annoying in the next dlc tho

[solemn cliff]

Any attack applies warp fire, bleeding and poison. And He's also a walking nuke. Just needs someone to activate him on turn 1 so he can set himself on fire before running into the enemy.

[grizzled aspen]

I am NOT paying taxes.

[solemn cliff]

He just kinda clears most engagements on turn 1, maybe 2 if it's spread out.

And with heavy armor+a talent, he doesn't even hurt himself with self immolation. I also gave a couple of people flamers so he can target more people with wildfire than just himself.

[hard nexus]

yes

“spark” clever

[hard nexus]

i shmee

[gusty cipher]

Okay, so I’ve gotta sorta ask. How toxic would y’all say the game is? I’ve noticed once you get to 5+ or auric people get ANGRY. Like the blocklist is growing. Is this normal?

[vague depot]

I never noticed or cared ngl

[solemn cliff]

My block list only had like 4 people on it, and that's mostly from wild shit that just isn't acceptable--like slurs, death threats, or "well wishes".

I don't think much about people who whine or complain. That's just gg next.

I'd consider a block on someone who was wildly bad, like sub-100k damage+more than 5 full deaths, just so I wouldn't have to play with them again.

I do love that part of the block system--it actually stops you from matching into games with them.

[clever terrace]

Losing havoc's can cost you ranks, so I see why people would get shitty there.

[acoustic dune]

i only have one block person in darktide
bc he was stinky and griefing

[gusty cipher]

It was just plain Jane damnation

Like idc if someone’s whining. But like going after people is a little much. My low self confidence and insults just kinda don’t mix? I know I didn’t do anything wrong, but being targeted by it just kinda sucks. Was the one good thing about VT2 on console, no chat for people to go wild in

[grizzled aspen]

It is getting worse for people that block bad players. My list is like 30+ now because these true level 30s keep queueing into auric CIVI's without any armor pen, among other missions.

[solemn cliff]

Oof. I moved into havocs and only pop back to aurics if I can't find a group doing 20+

[acoustic dune]

o god
am i in your block list?

[gusty cipher]

^^ and like that sorta thing is kinda spooking me from wanting to go higher than auric. I don’t wanna be dead weight in that kind of environment, but I’d really like to give it a go regardless

[winged aspen]

I got one person blocked because he was goin on about being top one in the team’s leaderboard. Everyone else was on console so they didn’t have mods obviously. Keep in mind it was on malice diff, not auric and i was only level 15 at the time

[vague depot]

try finding a group here its a lot harder for someone to talk shit when theres an actual voice

[remote lark]

bragging about being top of leaderboard in malice
clad is that u?

[gusty cipher]

I was just having a peaceful little psyker game. Knife zealot comes in, goes at me for dropping a medkit mid horde to keep me and vet alive. End of game comes around and the insults start coming. Sorry you died twice when running three rooms ahead buddy

[gusty cipher]

FAIR. That’s… really fair.

[sterile basalt]

Shitty people will continue to be shitty it is what it is

[solemn cliff]

Ngl, havocs below like 20-25 are not all that bad. They're not cake, but they aren't all that different from auric maelstroms.

So I definitely wouldn't shy away from havocs in the teens if you're feeling capable in auric maelstroms.

[grizzled aspen]

[stone fern]

https://tenor.com/view/sir-yes-sir-oorah-cat-emotional-gif-23930229

[grizzled aspen]

Ok @remote lark if you brick react me again I'm going to throw your next havoc. :3

[remote lark]

grrr angry

grrrr blocked

[grizzled aspen]

You wouldn't dare.

[remote lark]

[picture of blocked message here]

[grizzled aspen]

Uh huh, noobling.

[tidal berry]

why is it still slow mode

[clever swan]

[stone fern]

because the two people above you wont stop flirting in public

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah I think I'm gonna kill Clad with hammers.

[clever swan]

TRUEEEE

[sonic totem]

Zealot chat the only one in slowmode. Never change you weird, glorious bastards

[clever terrace]

#general-chat didn't get slow moded earlier so

[stone fern]

it was for months

[clever swan]

no one reported it, probably

[clever terrace]

I'm surprised considering where Val was going 😂

[solar gorge]

give back perms, i rolled a zealot on m second ironman character

[signal spoke]

Something that somehow we still talk here despite slowmode and no perms back

[ebon bobcat]

Its da curse of offtopic zealot chat

[copper hawk]

I havent blocked any1 since ive been playing (since before launch) but ive played w mby like 4 ppl i shouldve blocked (minus all my own toxicity in blocking certain kinds of players)

[signal spoke]

I was thinking for a while is there actually no off topic channels in the server?

[ebon bobcat]

Nope, zealot chat became the offtopic

[copper hawk]

And then there's the unique sorta modifier that I'm also queer w a very queer sounding voice, which gets its own kind of toxicity - but ive not noticed more than the usual toxicity in randoms

[clever terrace]

tell that to general chat half the time

[signal spoke]

And they took away the most valuable thing from us to express ourselves

[copper hawk]

Which is weird, since there's a lot of people who frankly arent rdy for even normal aurics playin aurics

[ebon bobcat]

Well listen, its hard to do offtopic on zealot chat now with slowmode, so the people moved to general

[clever terrace]

skill issue

[copper hawk]

With the increased traffic of ppl whose bodies r machines that turn living characters into dead characters there should be more toxic ppl

[clever swan]

the dead character industrial complex...

[ebon bobcat]

If only zealot chat had perms....

[signal spoke]

No gif perms is insane

[ebon bobcat]

Its containment breach

[signal spoke]

How can I express myself without my reaction Baikal seal gifs

[ebon bobcat]

Ogryn emoji

[signal spoke]

Seals and ogryn share a lot of similarities now think of it

[ebon bobcat]

What

[frozen kernel]

[signal spoke]

Very large creatures, not the most smart but very loved by everyone

[ebon bobcat]

Gorillas

[clever terrace]

[modern lintel]

played w an ogryn named twink annihilator thr other day that sounded like u

[silent badger]

What's a good zel gun for taking out enemies long range? (high havoc). Boltgun is too slow to swap to, revolver is too low damage per ammo capacity. Been running recon lasgun but it absolutely sucks at extreme range

[violet hornet]

throwing knife

[modern lintel]

vraks mk5 or bolt pistol also options tho youll eat a lot of ammo

[silent badger]

I mean, I havent tried, but I assume you cant throwing knife a sniper from across the map 😅

[modern lintel]

you can

[silent badger]

interesting... ill have to practice 😛

[clever swan]

depends how far i guess, it has an arc

[modern lintel]

tho if you get pus hardned modifer bad times

[silent badger]

like, sniper-is-barely-5-pixels-on-my-screen sort of range 😛

Just ran vent purge and it was very frustrating how often I was powerless to help kill them

[clever terrace]

no clue on like actual range, but I've killed snipers across the bridges and some open grounds with a throwing knife

[broken walrus]

A hit anywhere kills them so just chuck it at their general direction

[solar gorge]

malice gaming

[broken walrus]

Ive never had a knife not one shot a sniper on damnation

you sure you arent hitting that poxwalker next to the sniper?

[silent badger]

ive never tried tbh. But I was just playing a game where i was dumping an entire mag into a sniper at range, and they wouldnt die 🤣

[broken walrus]

snipers are made of paper, a flechette double barrel shot will kill them at infinite range

[hard nexus]

i’ve gotten 64 meter tknife snipes before, it’s doable

[hushed knoll]

Please don’t kill clad

[grizzled aspen]

Beg.

[hushed knoll]

I don’t beg for anyone

[grizzled aspen]

Then I'm gonna kill him with hammers.

[hushed knoll]

No, you won’t. He’s too valuable

[remote lark]

no the hell he's not

[hushed knoll]

Yes he is. He’s a cultural icon

[acoustic dune]

oh stan is here

[clever swan]

hammer murder crimes are gonna be seeing an uptick

[remote lark]

@acoustic dune do u like stan

[acoustic dune]

i do not hate nor like stan
as that would mean i know of his existence
as i shant not give attention to eldritch being
which in this is taco stan

[remote lark]

thank you knify very cool

[acoustic dune]

stan is not a person but a singular non existence
also his ''sweaty food'' category concern me

@remote lark you got some artist you follow and could dm me?
that would be neat

[remote lark]

i actually dont follow alot, but i have a friend name katie_nightfall who has a beautiful style i follow

[acoustic dune]

aknowledge
any other?

[grizzled aspen]

Bro said "acknlowedged" like he's a fucking servitor.

[steel agate]

i guess it is fancier than the usual "ok" confirmation

[acoustic dune]

affirmative

[proper sedge]

so is relic blade just the best melee type for zealot? im only level 23 so i havent used it, still lots of things i havent tried yet

[acoustic dune]

meta melee weapon is the knife if i remenber but relic is a fun weapon
(check pin for blessing n stuff)

[proper sedge]

i also dont really know what mk means, i see a bunch of them next to different weapons but not quite sure how it works for all weapons

[acoustic dune]

different move set
and flavour text

[proper sedge]

oh i see

[zinc talon]

are we out of time out yet

[proper sedge]

is there a big doc somewhere that actually explains the mks? because i see them for ranged weapons as well but its not really clear which does what
or even just a BiS list for them per weapon or something

[acoustic dune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCkJ5lGPqFs

[vague depot]

dont think so you just gotta give them a spin or ask here

[zinc talon]

yeah I'm not sure there's a cohesive guide

[vague depot]

there was a zealot guide in the works but the guy making it got banned lmao

[proper sedge]

anything for at least what the keywords mean? like what precise, torrent, or versatile actually mean

[zinc talon]

as a general rule of thumb if there are 3 variants to a weapon, one of them will be a more defensively oriented CC and sweep weapon, another will be an entirely single target strikedown/stab weapon, and the third will be an amalgamation of both sweeps and strikes

[vague depot]

you would be better off inspecting the weapon and seeing what type of attacks it has

[zinc talon]

the 'newer' weapons like the greatsword and relic blade typically have other weapons they pull their attack combos from, like for instance the Agni shock maul's attacks are identical to the 2h crusher's combos

[proper sedge]

interesting

[zinc talon]

and the 2h sword with the stab in its 3rd attack slot is identical to the obscurus force sword

which weapons were you looking at to give a try? we could prolly steer you towards the most-used or straightforward variants

[visual stream]

It's a great weapon but what is best depends on what purpose you need it to serve

[zinc talon]

relic blade is enjoyable for sure

[visual stream]

(To give you an actual answer on "meta", it's either Duelling Sword or Knife, probably Duelling Sword.)

[proper sedge]

is "knife" just combat blade?

[zinc talon]

but it's light on overall crowd control and so requires someone else to do the bonking around or you to approach every enemy in a kill-in-one-combo playstyle

[zinc talon]

and duelling sword is just three knives in a trenchcoat, beloved by the emperor are those who stray from using these weapons

[zinc talon]

lol you ass I just got around to opening this

[visual stream]

If you want a fun weapon that is good but not busted use either relic blade or Ironhelm thunder hammer

[proper sedge]

yeah im not really too sure yet, so far my favorite weapons have been chainaxe and thunder hammer because access to good AoE and really satisyfing ST damage is really really nice

[acoustic dune]

you could say it was
out of touch

[zinc talon]

both are solid weapons, chainaxe can be a little light on its escapes and disengages and so easy to get swallowed up and eaten alive by crowds because of how it tempts you into tunnel vision single target destruction

so keeping aware of your placement relative to what's around you and how much time you have to rip and tear is paramount

[acoustic dune]

my mechanical pencil broke
):

[zinc talon]

thunder hammer is tried and true neat leet deleete

[visual stream]

Do you use Crucis or Ironhelm?

[proper sedge]

thunder hammer is really nice but man i REALLY feel the lack of mobility, although i realized its not really that big of a deal;
im used to being able to sprint cancel -> charge with devils claw because thats where a lot of my playtime is but parry doesn't feel that strong and the weapon just isnt as satisfying in general

[zinc talon]

team's always happy to see a feisty TH user but again, it can counterintuitively come up short on its crowd control in thick packs

[proper sedge]

no idea what that is

[zinc talon]

and such a kamehamahehamaha kind of charge up weapon for big damage numbers necessitates that you actually hit what you're aiming at

[clever terrace]

thunder hammer variants

[zinc talon]

those are the two variants of thunder hammer, it'll say on the weapon's info card

[proper sedge]

crucis is what i used, i havent tried ironhelm yet

[visual stream]

They're the two different thunder hammer marks. Crucis cleaves very little trash on it's activated attacks and Ironhelm trades a mostly negligible (imo) amount of damage in return for massive amounts of trash cleave and also faster activated attacks

[zinc talon]

they're two very different animals, the ironhelm's power up attack detonation will cleave more than a asingle target instead of bouncing off the first tiny thing it hits

[proper sedge]

ah, i feel like crucis' unamped charged attacks were more than enough to deal with trash, whereas anytime i needed ST i could just charge and deal a bajillion damage

[zinc talon]

and crucially, when you press activate the ironhelm doesn't 'forget' where you were in your combo attacks and reset to light 1 or heavy 1 only

[remote lark]

crucis is the boss meme nuke
ironhelm is the better one

[zinc talon]

so you can be swinging away and activate the particular attack you want to swing with rather than only having l1/h1

[grizzled aspen]

Mk for ranged weapons just determines fire rate, damage per shot, magazine size, and crit strings.

[zinc talon]

if we lived in a universe that all weapons remembered where you were in your combo chain when you activated them we'd be colonizing mars by now

[proper sedge]

i feel like the trash overwhelmingness just hasnt been an issue yet, even on diff 4, im surprised to hear that ironhelm is much better

[visual stream]

It's because the only thing Crucis really does that Ironhelm can't is a bit better boss damage

[solemn cliff]

Not sure exactly how good it is, but I found this, and most of what it said jived with what I already knew.

https://onedrive.live.com/personal/e2a0a519389b2f30/_layouts/15/Doc.aspx?sourcedoc={a7c48fc8-4c57-4f99-8848-f62d41caaf9f}&action=default&redeem=aHR0cHM6Ly8xZHJ2Lm1zL3cvYy9lMmEwYTUxOTM4OWIyZjMwL0VjaVB4S2RYVEpsUGlFajJMVUhLcjU4QmJOX0xja01PQzRiYmEzcW5sTzhUSGc&slrid=2c637ba1-804d-7000-cc4d-3af7758a47f1&originalPath=aHR0cHM6Ly8xZHJ2Lm1zL3cvYy9lMmEwYTUxOTM4OWIyZjMwL0VjaVB4S2RYVEpsUGlFajJMVUhLcjU4QmJOX0xja01PQzRiYmEzcW5sTzhUSGc_cnRpbWU9N0NXQU5qMC0zVWc&CID=c8d23bfb-6464-491e-8477-d801f9918a38&_SRM=0:G:37

It's also for vets, not zealots. But it should at least give you some ideas on some of the weapons.

[clever terrace]

i can't remember which variant i liked

[zinc talon]

well its individual swings and combo chains are completely different as if it's a brand new weapon, so it's very much its own animal

[proper sedge]

ill have to give it a shot once i get a higher gear score thunderhammer then

[clever terrace]

god that link is eye cancer

[zinc talon]

your personal tastes and playstyle will play heavily into the weapons you choose to become the best with. for now, work on your hammer mastry which is the experience you get with the weapon for doing missions with it

[solemn cliff]

Yeah, I was too lazy to modify it

[proper sedge]

i dont have access to it

[visual stream]

What are you building on your hammer anyhow? This part is also very important for both marks

[grizzled aspen]

Mastery determines the cap at which things can drop, so as you use thunder hammers, or sacrifice thunder hammers to hadron, youll be able to get better ones.

[solemn cliff]

weird, I'm not even logged in and it let me look at it.

[zinc talon]

that's fine, it'll come, bring it to missions and max your mastry rank to 20 with it. that'll unlock all the weapon's nuts and bolts and let you custom tailor a weapon to your tastes, as well as empowering it to max rank and perk/blessings

[proper sedge]

honestly not sure how to answer that question LOL im still just getting new gear and using it as i go because the new gear i get is stronger than my current gear

for mastery i just pick what sounds most useful, i really havent interacted much with the perk reroll and refining and upgrading blah blah at all yet

[grizzled aspen]

That's a good way to build for now. There's a pinned image by @remote lark that will help you with talents.

[proper sedge]

oh yeah i am following that
at first i just went like all left side with stun grenade and blazing piety, i literally just respecc'd into throwing knives and am now working towards inexorable judgement and whatever side upgrades i can, currently only level 24

[visual stream]

That's kinda the way to do it until you hit 30/get good crafting materials, for now focus on finding what you like and refining your basic mechanical skills like dodging and such

[modern lintel]

if you have the materials you can also buy like 20ish of the weapon upgrade to green then sacrifice for mastery

[zinc talon]

yep, just buy em from the guy who sells em for dockets, take em to angry cyborg lady and make them green

then turn em right back into angry cyborg lady sacrificing the weapons you want to increase mastry with

[full nebula]

You get more xp for sacrificing weapons of the same type btw

[grizzled aspen]

That's Ms. Angry Cyborg Lady to you, sir.

[acoustic dune]

and mother hadron for me

[frozen kernel]

HK47 mfs be like

[grizzled aspen]

Ok chat can we kill this guy yet or no?

[proper sedge]

seems generally more worthwhile to do it through brunts armory rather than the regular shop requisition?

[grizzled aspen]

If you mean buying green and blue weapons to sacrifice, yes. It's far more cost effective that way.

[acoustic dune]

thinking of studying on renaissance
and or parade armor
got anything on mind?
i am tap out of new idea

[clever terrace]

why?

[acoustic dune]

i make this type of joke every month or so
and i have the art to porve it

[grizzled aspen]

Knify says quite possibly the worst shit out of anybody in this channel and frankly I want to squish his head with a rubber mallet.

[grizzled aspen]

Go study Slavic armors. They look very good.

[clever terrace]

sounds kinky. can i watch?

[grizzled aspen]

Alright chat so we are gonna kill this guy to get slowmode removed. All in favor, breathe to agree.

[acoustic dune]

fucking ai art in my google

[acoustic dune]

i can make a joke about how that is my nickname but ill prob get banned

[grizzled aspen]

Good riddance. 🙏

[visual stream]

This hammer, kill him with guys

[clever terrace]

so it's rubber mallet wolf not knify wolf?

[acoustic dune]

the chain mail over the mouth is pretty nice but i wanna see how coloured material use on brigandine sound pretty neat @grizzled aspen

[grizzled aspen]

Then study English or French armor. They did coloring a lot to signify who they fought for.

A surcoat would bear a house's crest, for example. You may also find painted shields.

[acoustic dune]

god i need to rewatch a knight tale

also visited the armour museum in paris (that forsaken land) the parade armour was majestic

[grizzled aspen]

Parade armor isn't necessarily practical. Corners were cut on some pieces to make them more comfortable. See practical armors, ones that have seen use in combat, instead.

[clever terrace]

you have been weighed...
you have been measured...
and you have definitely been found wanting...

[acoustic dune]

wishh i could have visited the one in florence
sadly i didnt have enough time
also i should check more clothing over on armour
the aesthetic seem intriguing

[grizzled aspen]

Clothing over armor wasn't really a thing outside of surcoats, as far as I'm aware.

You may be interested in seeing how bits of armor link up to each other, though. Can't exactly put on a breastplate by yourself.

[acoustic dune]

prob will check the german mercenary
the Lansquenet#

[grizzled aspen]

My brain is too cooked tonight to be having a discussion about armors.

[acoustic dune]

well i am thinking of semi fantasy design
the big fuckoff pauldren give me no joy

[clever terrace]

leather straps and buckles 👀

[modern lintel]

i think it was italians but for a short period they were wearing their mail over their plates was odd

[acoustic dune]

maybe you are thinking of fantasy christan crusade armour

[modern lintel]

jupons and occasionally gambesons would be

[grizzled aspen]

I dont consider either of those to be clothing. A gambeson is a functional piece, a jupon is just a surcoat by another name.

[acoustic dune]

more like to identify ally and or enemy
if they dont have
well a mace to the helmet aint neat
plus its as the kid say it
''drippy''

god the maximalian style armour are my fav

[modern lintel]

always thought kastenbrust was neat

[acoustic dune]

you know whats great on everything?
gold trim

[modern lintel]

gaudy

[copper hawk]

My ogryn is named Ukbuk, I'm a twink i do not obliterate

[modern lintel]

proof

[grizzled aspen]

I feel like I've heard of a character named Ukbuk before.

[copper hawk]

#zealot-class message @modern lintel

[modern lintel]

wafferock aswell

[copper hawk]

Waffenrock* ziiiigh..

[modern lintel]

just for that ur on the brain explosion list for tomorrow

[copper hawk]

Jupons were also padded and designed both to be worn separately and w armor; those worn w armor did provide protection

When people say "surcoat" or "tabard" they mean a Waffenrock; the design of tabards and surcoats nowadays is anachronistic cuz of media combining religion w their common uses into something that wasnt worn w armor, that being the monastic scapular

[drifting wolf]

witch alert

[copper hawk]

Video games and fantasy content like dnd made this connection like permanent in ppls minds

[grizzled aspen]

I have to admit I was just now mixing up surcoats and tabards, but in my defense, I am quite medicated atm.

[acoustic dune]

smth smth kingdom come deliverance

[copper hawk]

If some1 says somethin is a surcoat and show u a pic of something like a monastic scapular they're vidya brained, but if it looks like a Waffenrock then they're a nerd

[copper hawk]

Im just yapping i wasnt meanin 2 call any1 out

Victimization complex frog ziiiiigh..

[drifting wolf]

carcinization

[modern lintel]

corrazinas also had fabrics and stuff

[copper hawk]

Yo mama has fabrics

[modern lintel]

war thundr is getting the choping block when kingdom come 2 is out me thinks

[placid fiber]

Okri got me looking across all 8 characters for a weapon with 76% in all 5 stats... this was the closest I got in this hourly rotation #ogryn-class message

[grizzled aspen]

I don't have a victimization complex...

[modern lintel]

[copper hawk]

[full nebula]

[clever swan]

dead chat. but is it really dead if i cant post an image to prove it?

[acoustic dune]

question
whats a good animated movie to watch

[drifting wolf]

the wild robot

[full nebula]

old studio ghibli

[clever swan]

shrek

[acoustic dune]

the wild robot for far later
and arleady wach some old ghibli
althought some old jap animated movie do slap
(thinking of memory smth)

[full nebula]

the iron giant is a certified hood classic

[acoustic dune]

o shit some old disney sound great
treasure planet fucking slap

[winged aspen]

I need mfs to help me get auric storm survivor and possibly untouchable op 💔

[full nebula]

Lost City of Atlantis

[winged aspen]

Been there, mid location

[full nebula]

Its next to the titanic

[winged aspen]

Midtanic

[placid fiber]

insert "i've been everywhere" song

oh it was a johny cash song, the one I was thinking of

[vague depot]

My havoc is Gloriana with blight and moebian I’m cooked

[grizzled aspen]

Moebian ain't that bad. Blight is bad. Cranial on Gloriana is agony.

[drowsy steppe]

good luck soldier 🫡

[obtuse stirrup]

I'm very late to the party but what exactly was the Bolter buff?

I gave it a go again today on a whim and the main difference I noticed was that it has oodles of ammo now, and I suspect that the DoT and shred blessings are particularly good on havoc?

[north sedge]

ammo didnt change

[carmine falcon]

damn no one is playing in eu rn

[clever swan]

EU sleep

[pastel glacier]

What's the waste stat for the combat axe?

[plush estuary]

mob

[carmine falcon]

its 6 am so understandable lmao, my schedule is just fked

[placid fiber]

I had to do one of the be'lakor keeps last night almost exclusively by myself in vt2(and 2 randos joined when I was on the last thingy to disrupt)

That thing is rough to do with a team, even more so by yourself

[fleet zealot]

zealot chat still not free

[fleet zealot]

ammo got buffed by 10 didn't it, or like, 15. in reserve. But the buffs to the weapon itself were old news, all it did was increase it's finesse ratios and then it got more blessings in the crafting update which gave it puncture

[spare talon]

i posted a solo havoc 40 on yt where im running the force greatsword and a plasma gun on zealot
someone actually asked "build link?" in the comments

[carmine falcon]

rolling steel with 2 low leel players and a bot is so peak
u have to do everything by yourself

[fleet zealot]

Lol lmao

[ornate bone]

Another day crossed on the calendar, we're one step closer to 1985

[hard nexus]

LOL

[ornate bone]

skill success

[placid fiber]

I read "plasma gun" then "zealot" and went from to

[spare talon]

i literally said
in the title
"but im cheating (the awesome way)"

[carmine falcon]

build link?

[placid fiber]

Just play an Ogryn with a plasma gun and force greatsword...

[spare talon]

it came to me in a dream

[carmine falcon]

cowboy revolver is way more fun than the pocket sniper dang

[copper hawk]

@spare talon just saw ur recent video can i have a link 2 ur build ?

[placid fiber]

@spare talon Cole, I blame you for this! #psyker-class message

[spare talon]

sure its right here
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/211203478284926976/1333271251195662376/18945732613.png?ex=6798491d&is=6796f79d&hm=49a611e41d1f64b1eb393d53b0213d3358c86c7889daacbc36f2ddf0b719e992&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[rough galleon]

@spare talon can I have the keys to your house

[copper hawk]

Lol nice embed look at mine https://youtu.be/xvFZjo5PgG0?si=NBnLXnJCzsMaxFOP

[placid fiber]

How to get rick rolled 101

[carmine falcon]

rick rolling in 2025 unironically make the timer 10 minutes

[placid fiber]

I fell for that once, I'm not falling for it a 2nd time lol

[rough galleon]

Six hour slow mode for our sins

[clever swan]

if only they would, then zealot chat would become very peaceful and the mods would think we've changed for the better

[placid fiber]

I think we both know that's an impossible feat(thinking we've improved)

[copper hawk]

The fact i fooled ppl

[placid fiber]

I fell for that once, I knew not to click it lol

[clever swan]

it's not really fooling if they never knew either way what it'd be

[placid fiber]

Cica is a poor excuse for a Floran. They'd throw a spear and murder you head on instead of sneaky shit

[clever swan]

cica is still learning the floran ways

[copper hawk]

U humansssssss ssstupid enough to not need ssssuch deviousssss Floran trickssssss

[placid fiber]

What's that? You got a flower stuck in your mouth

[copper hawk]

Krillin myshellf(ish) 4 the larping

[placid fiber]

Damn it, tho, ur gonna make me play starbound again lol

[placid fiber]

Ur gonna push me past the 600 mark at this rate, I've played for 589 hours already

[fleet zealot]

I think my aoi has died properly, no more fan spinning, cpu heating and throttling again even faster

[clever swan]

you sure it isnt just the fans?

i think if it was the whole AIO your computer would not even work

[fleet zealot]

The radiator or whatever ain’t working

[fleet zealot]

It’s just for the cpu ?? The power supply and gpu stuff is fine.

[clever swan]

yeah but the cpu would just get so hot that yknow

[fleet zealot]

Throttling and overheating in about 15 minutes idle?

[copper hawk]

It’s just for the cpu ?? The power supply and gpu stuff is fine.

[fleet zealot]

Go glorb urself biznac

[clever swan]

i dunno, it should be worse than that if it isnt working at all. you cant hear any AIO noises?

[fleet zealot]

Nothing, and i checked all the connections to the motherboard

All firmly in place, im thinking of just finding a replacement that fits air or the fucking closed liquid system

[fleet zealot]

I think the thermal paste change just delayed the inevitable, or i pushed it over the edge with cpu intensive games

[broken walrus]

Do we do tech support here? My computer crashes every time I open a game unless my GPU is undervolted. Is it my psu or my gpu? Tell me its not the GPU

[fleet zealot]

I can’t afford a new pc, but i can eat ice soup for a few months and see if a replacement cooling would let me use it

[clever swan]

idk, what are your temperatures like when this happens? for your gpu and cpu?

[broken walrus]

pretty normal. Like 35 to 55 depending on what Im doing

[clever swan]

how old is it?

[copper hawk]

@violet hornet techlord we summon u 4 there r two gooberz in need

[clever swan]

uhhh it shouldnt be overheating then. maybe it's just crashing because your gpu cant hit the default clock speeds?

how does undervolting help? why are you undervolting? why not just underclock?

[fleet zealot]

GPU sits at 50-58c while idling, a bit lower while idle. Idk the cpu temps i was never told where to check, all i know is the heatsink on top is hot to the touch, like recoil hot, metal slide under the summer sun hot

It’s a decade old, all with original parts

[clever swan]

you dont have any programs to check cpu temp?

like hwinfo or msi afterburner

[broken walrus]

@clever swan Im am just using the AMD software to do the the automatic undervold

[fleet zealot]

Gpu temps showed up in task manager, cpu temps didn’t show up in task manager or the performance program thingy

[tepid dome]

Love when people post for Havoc 40 but don't actually have a 40 to queue because they haven't done a 40 yet.

[fleet zealot]

Idk what either are and how to easily access them, but i think it is safe to say it is going hot

[clever swan]

https://www.hwinfo.com

go to download and under the installer option you press "free download" and idk go to sourceforge i guess (https://sourceforge.net/projects/hwinfo/files/Windows_Installer/hwi64_820.exe/download)

[fleet zealot]

Well that will have to wait till my cpu coolsdown enough i can get enough run time

[clever swan]

yeah it might not really be necessary anyway if your AIO is making zero noise, something is very wrong

[fleet zealot]

Lol wtf 😬

[clever swan]

hwinfo has its own wikipedia article, nasa used it once apparently

everyone knows it's legit, i promise

[fleet zealot]

It’s a decade old and ive been told this era of aio’s usually only last 2-5 years so

Im not shocked it finally coughed and died while i was playing vt2 this morning

Whatever i just need to know how to measure this shit out

[clever swan]

just buy an arctic liquid freezer 3 :)

[fleet zealot]

I copied my processor name

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz

[pale spindle]

nah those are overpriced

[fleet zealot]

My budget is 90$ and i’d prefer less. Just enough i can keep job hunting until i find something that won’t make my disabled ass breakdown

And dnd nights, i can live without intensive gaming my internet is fucked anyway but dnd is my socialization

[broken walrus]

Good air cooler is like $25. No like noise?

[clever swan]

idk im seeing some for like 80 bucks or something, not too bad

[fleet zealot]

Okay, aircoolers if i put my processor information in/it matches, it will fit? Or will i need to measure something

[clever swan]

yeah i mean air cooling is way cheaper

[pale spindle]

bruh that wasnt even masked

[clever swan]

you probably should yeah. you might have problems with ram clearance depending on some factors

[fleet zealot]

You can see my processor, if air cooling is good enough it’s good enough

Hell if it leaks heat into my room that’s basically meta for cold montanan winters

[grizzled aspen]

Ip grabber...

[fleet zealot]

It’s a one fan sized space

[pale spindle]

grab my ip 😩

[fleet zealot]

Ahh fuck ill need to probably take the parts out and measure them bleh

[pale spindle]

im pretty sure they will

what size motherboard do you have?

[fleet zealot]

The heatsink part is screwed in with 4 corner screws

[fleet zealot]

Lemme try booting it up cause i didn’t write that down

[cursive tundra]

Need the socket
Gen 7 is lga1151 i think?

[pale spindle]

all heatsinks use 4 screws

[clever swan]

yeah lga1151
gotta make sure the air cooler comes with the proper brackets n shit
well, any cooler, really

[fleet zealot]

Yea

[pale spindle]

most coolers atm are designed for Intel 1851/1700/1150/1151/1200

so you should be fine

[cursive tundra]

Then you need to check case allowance for cooler
It wont be necessary if you have those big old tower case or a slim cooler, but just in case moment

[fleet zealot]

I learned wiring at least already

[clever swan]

the ram could be a problem depending on how tall it is

[fleet zealot]

B250M BAZOOKA MS-7A70

[fleet zealot]

The ram won’t be a problem, i have clearance

[pale spindle]

yes it will fit then

[fleet zealot]

Good 2 fingers worth

[pale spindle]

remember to buy some thermal paste tho

[broken walrus]

Do coolers not come with paste? or am I cooked?

[fleet zealot]

Already have some from my last fix in december

[clever swan]

probably a lot of them do, maybe not the cheap ones tho

[fleet zealot]

Don’t say you left the sticker on or put it on raw monkas

[pale spindle]

since that is an old ass MB, I doubt you need the liquid cooler or the 7 pipe fan cooler, so just get this: https://www.amazon.com/ID-COOLING-Cooler-LGA1700-Heatpipes-Cooling/dp/B09Z6M8NK5

this is the cheapest 4 pipe cooler atm

[fleet zealot]

The one you specifically selected is the right one

[clever swan]

erm this is cheaper https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Refined-SE-Technology-AX120/

[fleet zealot]

Page doesn’t exist also glorp

[pale spindle]

no it isn't at leats not for me

[clever swan]

i glorped it https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Refined-SE-Technology-AX120/dp/B09LHBFPJ6/

must be some region pricing shit, it's 17.90 usd for the thermaltake vs 17.99 for the ID

oh the white one is actually even cheaper, at $16.99

[pale spindle]

oh no 10 cents 😭

[broken walrus]

thats like 1/10 of an egg

[fleet zealot]

That’s almost halfway to a gumball

[pale spindle]

according to gamer nexus, that little cooler is actually the best 4 pipe atm as well

[clever swan]

i wonder how one can even tell which cooler is better. seems like a crapshoot except for heat pipe and prayers

[drifting wolf]

buy a comically large peerless assassin

[broken walrus]

Lots of in depth youtube reviews if you feel like sitting through them all

[pale spindle]

https://gamersnexus.net/coolers/best-cpu-coolers-weve-tested-2024-thermals-noise-levels-value

i would post the benchmarks

IF ZEALOTCHAT WASN'T CHASTIZED 😡

[drifting wolf]

damnation!!!

[fleet zealot]

So the 17.10 one or the 17.99 one but it doesn’t matter cause i dont get paid till feb

[clever swan]

the id cooling i guess

[pale spindle]

mine has RGB 😎

[clever swan]

note that the liquid freezer iii is #1

[pale spindle]

yeah thats top of the line, look at the best value one too

[fleet zealot]

I fucking hate discord

[clever swan]

jeez the dh15 g2 is crazy. both in price and heat pipes

[placid fiber]

@copper hawk goddamn it cica... now I have to relearn the stupid research shit... and it was a hell of a fucking pain in the ass to learn the 1st time x.x

[fleet zealot]

I cant fucking open it to amazon it leeps ioening discord web browser fuck fuck fuck stuoid modern technology i want to return to banging rocks together

[violet hornet]

kinda sounds like a power supply issue, any idea what wattage psu you have?

[broken walrus]

its 1000 watts

[pale spindle]

then just type in google: ID-COOLING SE-214-XT

[violet hornet]

that should be plenty unless you have a crazy number of hard drives or something

[pale spindle]

don't u want a 30lb brick in your computer? 😎

[fleet zealot]

I did

[broken walrus]

yeah pc part picker estimate is like 700 watts

[clever swan]

what is your gpu?

[violet hornet]

you've got safe overhead for sure too then

[fleet zealot]

I just ahte modern technology but all my gay little friends are on my devices

[clever swan]

if that's what it takes...but id rather get an arctic liquid freezer and do push pull :3

[pale spindle]

i thought all CS majors where gay 🤔

[carmine falcon]

why tf is in-game voice chat volume so low in this game man i picked up ammo crate and forgot to drop it and the guys at the end said they were asking me to drop in voice but i heard nothing

[clever swan]

there's a mod for that i guess. i dont really have problems hearing people, perhaps cuz i have the game at 40% volume

[fleet zealot]

Im not a cs major

[clever swan]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/141

[carmine falcon]

i should probably just lower all effects yeah, also we were wining comofrtably but bro got heated at the end cursing like the missions failed, was funny

[fleet zealot]

I made the dumbass decision of dropping out at 16 and getting my GED 2 years early, massive mistake i have no post education and no experience outside of fast food, even tho i was opening, closing and a team trainer

[broken walrus]

@clever swan 6900xt

[fiery ingot]

whats with the communicating with the servers thing every time after a match?

[fleet zealot]

Anywayd i found somethign really cool and im posting it to psyker chat

[ebon bobcat]

Wdym

[livid rampart]

Alright Zealot chat, who should I draw now.

And do not say yourself unless you mean to send your character + character personality

[clever swan]

cute girl picking flowers on a peaceful imperium world

[plush estuary]

day 402 posting my build until no more slowmode

[placid fiber]

Hadron smoking weed

[livid rampart]

The imperium has peaceful worlds?

[clever swan]

i hope so

[fiery ingot]

i get a loading symbol in the middle of the screen with something like communicating with servers and it keeps on that for like 30 or more seconds almost like im getting zealot chat'd in game

[fleet zealot]

Agri worlds, paradise worlds, pleasure worlds

[ebon bobcat]

Bad connection

[fiery ingot]

time to reset the moden then ty

[livid rampart]

Alright will do

[ebon bobcat]

Chould be from the region server tho

[clever swan]

idk mang, must be your gpu if undervolting fixes it. could try increasing voltage to test your theory of it being psu related but i doubt it

[livid rampart]

Gods I’ve drawn Rannick so much I have a palette of his skin tone and hair color saved

[broken walrus]

dang, was hoping GPU would last at least 5 years

[broken walrus]

I guess its still alive, so w/e

[clever swan]

undervolting is based anyway

[clever swan]

try seeing what the hotspot sensor says right before it crashes?

[mighty root]

How do you clip through walls and doors?

[clever swan]

you.........dont?

well you can get eaten by a beast of nurgle and thrown up or perhaps thrown by a chaos spawn into them i guess

[ebon bobcat]

Are you trying to get to the backrooms?

[mighty root]

@plush estuary how dare you

[clever swan]

oh yeah and i saw a dude doing a speedrun force himself out of bounds so maybe there're some places in the map you can use some speed abilities to get yourself out of them

[spare talon]

i still really do not fuck with the mk2 relic

[fleet zealot]

Yea but those fall under exploits and shit no

[spare talon]

moveset is cool but using it in an actual game just feels bad to me
which is weird considering the comparable thing would be the m6 fgs, which i fuck with heavy

[fleet zealot]

We can’t just share how to go through walls and doors or else mods will bonk us again

[clever swan]

really? hmm

:v

[spare talon]

my as a psyker and 3 zealots
who is going to have the most melee damage at the end
(its going to be me)

[hard nexus]

cole cant use an uppercut
confirmed

[spare talon]

its more the rhythm of the moveset

[hard nexus]

skill issue methinks,,,,,,

[rustic bobcat]

tryna cosplay hlm jacket. crusher is as close as im getting to a bat right

[fast hedge]

does the relic blades count as power weapons?

[ebon bobcat]

Its a blade

[fast hedge]

but for achievments and stuff; does it count as a power weapon?

[ebon bobcat]

What a power weapon is for you?

[spare talon]

yes

[fast hedge]

cool; thanks

[ebon bobcat]

Huh, surprising

[placid fiber]

Apparently it is easier the 2nd time, cuz I figured it out quicker this time x.x

[spare talon]

gender

[modern lintel]

forgot my beer in freezer now its slush

[broken walrus]

beer slushy sounds kinda lit

[modern lintel]

little hard to drink

[broken walrus]

gotta break it out of the bottle/can

[livid rampart]

What rannick bs should i make now.

Also any nsfw nonsense goes to my bluesky so ideally something i can post here

[hearty nebula]

rannick doing a kickflip

[spare talon]

a duelling sword user being asked to leave the strike team

[livid rampart]

It’s sad that I had to look up what that is

[hearty nebula]

yes it is

[livid rampart]

I forgot we’re grounded

[atomic matrix]

what combat shotgun version is good for the class?

[modern lintel]

what if i said none

[broken walrus]

Unfortuantely thats the answer

[kind tulip]

I like using them I don't care about good or not

[atomic matrix]

crazy, any suggestion for a weapon to use instead?

[modern lintel]

as the ancient text say uh flamer

[broken walrus]

Autogun does the same thing as the combat shotgun but better

[atomic matrix]

"burn the heretic" applied

[spare talon]

what are you wanting your gun to do
or rather what melee do you have (so your gun can do what its bad at)

[heady rapids]

any1 here hyped for hello kitty island adventure

[grizzled aspen]

Can I submerge you in sulfuric acid? :3

[drowsy steppe]

bolt pistol

[clever swan]

is that getting a remaster or something

[heady rapids]

just a steam release

[ornate bone]

HELLO KITTY IS GETTING A REMASTER, BLOODBORNE NERDS STAY LOSING

[fiery ingot]

lmao

[atomic matrix]

want a weapon for a chainaxe, basically long range management since i can deal with the horde with the axe and some flame nades

[spare talon]

bolt pistol or revolver

[hard nexus]

revolver, bolt pistol, infantry las

[atomic matrix]

infantry las is good? i though that only auto was performing well

[spare talon]

for range
both can also deal with armor which you may need for chainaxe if theyres a fuck ton of em cuz you may not be able to rev attack them safely

[hard nexus]

it’s not amazing but it works, it’s moreso just a fun, albeit weaker alternative to revolver

[placid fiber]

the 30 crusher army:

[hard nexus]

bolter is good too, but it’s got a bit of a longer draw time

[spare talon]

the superior grenade option:

[atomic matrix]

Bolter being clasified as grenade ammo pleases me

[placid fiber]

Smite?

[spare talon]

i was meaning throwing knives
which can be used to animation cancel the draw time of bolter and flamer

[sullen forge]

Manstopper TKnives

[hearty nebula]

knives, made of manstopper

[atomic matrix]

new tech asimilated

[gusty cipher]

bistol

[fiery ingot]

i wanna be a bolter main but i so much suck with this weapon; by the time i finish drawing the gun the specials are already dead. if i remain with it equipped so i can avoid the former problem, i get melee bullied by savages all around me

[open bramble]

man, i wish the randos i played with were good enough to vaporize all the of the crushers and shit

[ornate bone]

knaifu tek

[fiery ingot]

im not saying the drawing animation being long is the problem in the weapon, im saying im so bad with the proper timing cause i know there are people who can do god wonders with this weapon

[open bramble]

Oh God (I know has been beaten into the ground already), but slow mode makes this chat unbearable.

[atomic matrix]

sad that the combat shotgun isnt that great, but which version is the less bad?

[gusty cipher]

Tbh what’s helped me a lot while using bolt weapons is just distance. Like probably not the best option to push with the bolter out, but backing up and dodging from a crusher squad? Peak time to pull it out

[fiery ingot]

kantrael and agrip are both good. agrip for sniping and kant for mixed hordes dps

[frosty herald]

Your amazing🗣️

[grizzled aspen]

Accatran is my go to pick. I run it with crusher for peak bulwark racism (2-3 shots depending on crits), and it suppresses anything from any distance with a special shot.

[hearty nebula]

erhm, actually, im amazing

[broken walrus]

@fiery ingot With the bolter, I am just constantly drawing it if I am not actively meleeing. Drawing melee is instant, so you can just swap back if you need to. Just always be drawing so you are ready when you need it

[frosty herald]

Im perfect

[fiery ingot]

oh thats actually a good tip

[hearty nebula]

im pawesome

[fiery ingot]

tbh i dont want to rely on knives to skip animation cause im trying to git gud at it with vet too

[hearty nebula]

how to use it on veteran

1. point at enemy
2. shoot

[hard nexus]

throwing knives are so amazing but pus hardened shouldn’t exist

[atomic matrix]

the idea of using that weapon is being aware of what's comming and pulling the gun ahead of time to make them eat explosives

[atomic matrix]

I feel that it shouldnt be as punishing, since ranged damage is a way to deal with some specialists that just cant be reached otherwise

maybe make it that for X seconds of being damaged it has that defense but after it its loses that ranged resistance

[grizzled aspen]

Iirc pus hardened is 70% resistance to ranged damage at h40, methinks it needs to be toned down by 20% or so.

[spare talon]

that would make it another nothing modifier
in the ball crusher mode
and we'd be down to 1 modifier you actually have to care about

[grizzled aspen]

I've already beaten that horse to death as to why that modifier is shit, I don't understand why you like it so much.

[ornate bone]

But I am, fuck that weapon's animation

[spare talon]

i dont like it, but i dont hate it

[grizzled aspen]

The only thing pus hardened does is shoehorn vets into using an infernus recon and it completely fucks over any ranged option ogryn has. That's it. Functionally, it has no other purpose. I don't understand why it has to be so detrimental for those classes.

Psykers are gonna be running purg or trauma so they don't give a shit, or they're also pulling the vet card and running an infernus recon. Same thing for zealouts, it's either flamer or recon.

There is zero purpose for it to be as detrimental as it is, end of story.

[final forge]

skill issue

[plush estuary]

Pus skin is a great idea

[final forge]

its hard mode make it hard

[grizzled aspen]

Artificial difficulty isn't good difficulty.

[plush estuary]

When the unfair difficult mode is unfair and difficult

[grizzled aspen]

Havocs were a great idea but they've been terribly executed.

[hard nexus]

pus hardened should only exist on melee enemies, ranged enemies shouldnt get it

@spare talon thoughts,,,?

[final forge]

its hard mode make it hard

[hard nexus]

huh?

[atomic matrix]

i feel making it relevant so you must be even more efficient is a good thing, ranged enemies could have it but it def should be a reduced effectiveness so the main mechainc to face them isnt invalidated

[fiery ingot]

[stable temple]

TBH the Bolt Pistol would've been great for a tknife reskin.

"Hm, that rager is looking extra heretical. Have the Emperor's peace!" BANG

[grizzled aspen]

were going to make bullets instantly kill you if you engage these enemies in ranged combat
also we are going to make them take basically no damage from ranged so you have even less options than before
this is good difficulty I swear

[final forge]

its hardmode, blanket the whole affix to all enemies not just some. hardmode is supposed to be hard, pus means nothing to ppl who solo, hence skill issue

[clever terrace]

Not sure what I just read

[fiery ingot]

i like it

[grizzled aspen]

This whole "its the hardest gamemode, it should be hard" argument should be thrown completely out the fuckin window. Artificial difficulty is not fun, people that enjoy it are just masochists or masochists in denial.

[hard nexus]

are you saying i have a skill issue?? lmfao

[stable temple]

The joke is replacing throwing knives with just pulling a bolt pistol out and blasting some poor bastard.

[final forge]

i mean you are complaining about it being hard? i guess? idk

[grizzled aspen]

"The shit modifier is shit" is an observation, not a complaint.

[final forge]

you observe it quite a bit

[clever terrace]

bullet sponges are a notoriously bad way to increase difficulty

[hard nexus]

when it comes to dealing with it, i can deal with pus hardened fine enough, i just dont like how havoc does its difficulty in a few ways

[tidal berry]

you mean the same people that skip the entire game?

[grizzled aspen]

As I said, havoc is a great idea, terrible execution.

[hard nexus]

i carry h40 with a mk3 evis, im good enough to be able to critique the game lmfao

[plush estuary]

No

[final forge]

didnt say it was good, just made it harder on the hardmode

[hard nexus]

u live 2 hate me,,,,,, :(

[grizzled aspen]

So you're just ragebaiting, gotcha. Explode immediately.

[plush estuary]

I live to witness zelchat

[final forge]

says the guy who observes pus quite often 😛

[fiery ingot]

pulls out the boltpistol tknife

[vague depot]

Was chainsword or mk3 evis the one that could stagger mixed hordes

[grizzled aspen]

Another zealout chatters shit takes, silenced from my ears forever. Bliss.

[fiery ingot]

crusher

[final forge]

i also play an evis in h 40, i can also critique the game. pus aint bad at all

[stable temple]

Agreed. I enjoy Auric and the occasional Maelstrom because those feel like re-introducing mechanics you learned all throughout the game for the final boss.

"You got really good with melee from Uprising to Damnation, now let's see if you're good enough to play Damnation against flak troopers with no ammo pickups!"
"Oh, good at handling specialists? This mission has way more specialists and tox gas!"
Havoc feels like lining-up for a marathon that you trained for, but in the height of Winter and every mile someone hurls a frozen waterballoon at your skull or you sprint over a patch of ice.

[plush estuary]

I also play an evis in hagoc 40, I can also critique the game. pus skin aint bad at all it needs a buff

[hard nexus]

mk3 with perfect strike will cleave basically everything, allowing you to stagger the whole frontline

[final forge]

make havoc harder pls

[grizzled aspen]

Imagine this message is some meme about strangling you.

[vague depot]

Ok that’s sex pass a build rq

[copper hawk]

growls like a sigma

[plush estuary]

SEX!?!?!??!?

[clever terrace]

OwO

[ornate bone]

PERFECT STRIKE ENJOYER

[vague depot]

You will be eviscerated

[grizzled aspen]

Something about being chummed and evaporated...

[ornate bone]

build do sexo

[hearty nebula]

Banned

[ornate bone]

has muerto

[hard nexus]

i want havoc to be harder, but id rather it be harder via much denser hordes, weaker (ragers, shotgunners,) elite packs but more of them/denser, instead of just shitting out 6 bulwarks every 2 minutes, etc

right now, pus hardened just entirely goes against certain builds, and goop just exists to spite zealots

[grizzled aspen]

No, you will fight five hundred pus hardened bulwarks at the same time and you will like it!!!

[final forge]

gotta nerf weapons/builds for that. can't cus you get helldivered down so no nerfs only buffs. so how do you make it hard. aaaah 50 crushers. spam high hp stuff

[vague depot]

I want more enemies I need to feel the beauty of demolishing 50 poxwalkers in a single swing

[hard nexus]

we wont get nerfs unfortunately, not for a long time

[grizzled aspen]

Nope. They made weapons be utterly unable to cleave anything in high havocs without taking cleave blessings. Never gonna happen.

[plush estuary]

nerf ogryn next update

[clever terrace]

that doesn't make havoc harder, it disturbs the whole game.

[copper hawk]

Buff vet next update

[vague depot]

A tragedy

[final forge]

if you make weapons/builds weaker you can make mobs hit less hard and have less hp so you can add more "weaker" mobs like ragers instead of 50 crushers

[grizzled aspen]

Even with 5 stacks of wrath I still only cleave like 8 chaff, or until I hit an elite, and then all my cleave is gone. But buffed hitmass is so fun!!!

[vague depot]

What’s the horde and st combo for m3 evis I didn’t write that down in my notes

[hard nexus]

every enemy except bulwarks health is in a good spot imo
bulwarks are a little too high

[hard nexus]

#gameplay-help message

[frosty herald]

Skibidi rizz

[grizzled aspen]

Step 1) equip relic blade instead
Step 2) have fun with that

[vague depot]

But I want to use mk3 tomorrow

[clever terrace]

that makes no sense, as you're just making everything the same?

[copper hawk]

Vet players need their equal attention cake after the relic blade

[final forge]

im bored back to lurking for a milennia, keep on eviseratoring mk3 sister mk15 represent

[frosty herald]

Just give me powerfist and im satisfied or put relic blade on vet🗣️

[hard nexus]

mk3 sister*

(mk15 is for bitches)

[grizzled aspen]

Dude wants havoc to be harder and he likes pus hardened as a modifier, can you expect anything sane out of his mouth?

[ornate bone]

omg yas kween slayyyyyyyyyyy

[grizzled aspen]

How about we just make power sword use the relic blade heat system and not make the mobility shit?

[clever terrace]

I expect very little from this discord. Each day that gets a little bit less. I'm still disappointed.

[spare talon]

tbf havoc is still too easy for what it is

[grizzled aspen]

Cole, dude, just say you're a masochist already.

[hard nexus]

switch out some modifiers for maelstrom modifiers, give us denser hordes, a lot more lower tier elites, and less bulwarks

[grizzled aspen]

Also lobotomize fading light because that shit is ass.

[copper hawk]

no on denser hordes cuz console

[vague depot]

Oh yea hav 40 reset just happened can I drag you all into a lobby with me tomorrow

[grizzled aspen]

Mfw one singular shooter can pop up from cover because he stayed there for 3 minutes and instantly down someone:

[clever swan]

i mean i guess if you think havoc 40 should be nigh-impossible it is kinda too easy

[hard nexus]

i like it

[copper hawk]

the modifiers in havoc are too boring, we need maelstrom modifiers too

[grizzled aspen]

Maybe if it wasn't on every single mission so we could have some diversity of builds it wouldn't be so bad, but having fading light 2 on everything that's worth playing is so fucking annoying its not even funny.

[clever swan]

yeah fading light 2 is the real issue that makes it unfun

[spare talon]

auric is down the hall and to the left, sir