Yeah its a lot more
#zealot-class
spare talon
wheres that one clip where i actually did well (considering my experience with the game)
sullen forge
Im considering trying Footsoldier Krueber with like
spare talon
and by did well
spare talon
i mean ran away
spare talon
@plush estuary this is the best ive ever done in vt2
ignore that i walk the wrong way at the start
sullen forge
<@665740726474375168> this is the best ive ever done in vt2
Oh there's a dodge counter mod?
sullen forge
I'll have to absolutely take that when playing cause I was playing completely vanilla
plush estuary
I see alot of things that can be explained to improve your experince
and plus
playing more learns the maps
misty nova
grizzled aspen
I played with you today lmao.
grizzled aspen
Agri vigilant and I had no fucking ammo for half the match because the hampton guy kept eating all of it.
grizzled aspen
?
sullen forge
what melee were you using
grizzled aspen
Mk1 shovel.
sullen forge
Yeah that seems about right
grizzled aspen
I was getting super tilted because no ammo.
grizzled aspen
Yeah I have survivalist.
sullen forge
or try to if I can afford it
grizzled aspen
I was just the only one on gunner killing duties.
That match was an absolute shitshow.
sullen forge
Also why the fuck is the zealot eating the ammo
grizzled aspen
Cant exactly have good ammo efficiency if I'm having to fight 14 gunners from different directions.
grizzled aspen
Also why the fuck is the zealot eating the ammo
He is stupid.
sullen forge
What gun
grizzled aspen
Yeah now you know why my damage was so low.
I'm honestly disappointed in my performance that match but it isnt entirely my fault.
The grif guy was a level 1000 ogryn that was spamming kickback at everything lmao.
He would NOT put that fucking thing down.
median steeple
addiction
spare dome
Agri vigilant and I had no fucking ammo for half the match because the hampton g...
i cant recall any of these names tbh lmao
what map was it even
i have been trauma staffing all day so
grizzled aspen
what map was it even
Gloriana.
grizzled aspen
Final event was smooth but the first event was torture.
Not having bullets on vet is so ass.
spare dome
ye tends to be
i was just sliding in circles prepping brain bursts
til my walls came off cd
hearty nebula
I always forget how fuckin good Kruber's shouting ability sounds
Bro got a good pair of fuckin lungs on him
hearty nebula
REAL
But he has so much fuckin oomph in it
It's peak
STAND UP, SHAPE UP, OR SHUT UP is also a good one
literally just "GET YO ASS IN BATTLE RIGHT FUCKING NOW OR FUCK OFF"
median steeple
god I forgot how hollow a lot of VT sounds like
Voicelines are still peak however
hearty nebula
*mayflies*
lament blaze
getting booted from parties because im playing kerillian was peak vt2
lament blaze
i couldnt even be mad lmao
hearty nebula
now I just wanna play kruber...
fleet zealot
i could be mad
lament blaze
"bro i sit here everygame and listen to her. i know the pain. respond appropriately"
median steeple
fleet zealot
fucking got kicked from a expedition that I was in from the 2nd mission. At the finale
lament blaze
das boot is appropriate
fleet zealot
right after the last monster died
median steeple
maybe I should reinstall vermintide 2
fleet zealot
"fuck elves"
hearty nebula
"fuck elves"
:3
fleet zealot
I only friendly fired once, and that's cause the slayer lept up into the air when I was aiming at an elite
lament blaze
friendly fire does like 4 damage unless 5th difficulty changed it
plush estuary
depends on the source
most sources of friendly fire is very low
but there are 1 shot builds people can make
huntsman and bounty hunter
lost 60hp by being shot in the back of the head
lament blaze
oh yeah it'd depend. i dont think a kerillian arrow especially in expedition would be built like that
fleet zealot
like maybe they thought i was greencircle chasing but
that's how i play waystalker, I still stick with the team and play with them I just like picking off everything that isn't horde
grizzled aspen
huntsman and bounty hunter
My bounty hunter teammate 180ing because one of my thorns hit him by accident: (he will instantly blow my fucking elf brains across the ground)
fleet zealot
it's just a funny community joke people when they devolve into too serious fantasy racism
plush estuary
had a guy named CEO of racism
lament blaze
it's just a funny community joke people when they devolve into too serious fanta...
I just think its her voicelines dude
They're sandpaper
copper hawk
"fuck elves"
I l000000ve elves
lament blaze
I spent like 5 hours digging into reddit posts seeing if there was any way to get rid of her flavortext voicelines. (ie her just being an ass not her calling out a blightstormer)
But no there was no way that I could find
copper hawk
Yah her personality is very unlikable
misty ravine
VT2 Kerillian not only didn't warm up to the party but becomes almost cartoonishly condescending and bitchy
copper hawk
Which is funny
Cuz she has no position to bitch
Everything they're experiencing in game is literally HER fault
Everything
The fall of the Empire canonically was because her angst against humanity as a wood elf w dryads meant she could jump on any pretense to attack humans
rough galleon
imagine misinterpreting a prophecy, trying to stop it, and fucking it up so bad that you cause it
copper hawk
Specifically a reinforcement to Nuln before it fell
sullen forge
VT2 Kerillian not only didn't warm up to the party but becomes almost cartoonish...
This is why we immediately whip your gun to the back of her skull and fire
copper hawk
Leading to the domino effect that lead to everything else falling
copper hawk
Kerillian sure she fell for the prophecy
fleet zealot
I just think its her voicelines dude
90% of it is just her coping mechanism lol
it's not even like
copper hawk
But u think she'd be at least a little contrite about it
fleet zealot
deep or anything
copper hawk
I got the mod before i moved on from vt2 that muted her character
lament blaze
I mean the hate people have for her. I don't think it's going deep into warhammer racism
lament blaze
I think it's kerillian being the fucking worst
copper hawk
Even the turboracist by both trade and preference likes the dwarf now
fleet zealot
she pushes the other 4 away because while she does enjoy their company, she doesn't want to get attached and then live the rest of her life after they die while she lives another century and then some
copper hawk
she pushes the other 4 away because while she does enjoy their company, she does...
I never rlly understood this logic cuz that's how she feels
But I dont think so
fleet zealot
u don't think
copper hawk
Since all 4 know it's the end of the world
lament blaze
No amount of lore can turn her voicelines into not sandpaper
copper hawk
No i dont think that's it
lament blaze
People call a spade a spade
fleet zealot
u think more than steam forums
copper hawk
I think she feels responsible and hellishly guilty for what she did and that's why she pushes them all away
rough galleon
But u think she'd be at least a little contrite about it
she's pretty angsty about it
counts her kills to pay back for helmgart, covers her face cause she's banished
fleet zealot
No amount of lore can turn her voicelines into not sandpaper
Mayflies
copper hawk
It's more ignoble
She's a very young elf
From the most unlikable kind of elves
And also the least amicable
She's a whiny child
empty python
hey guys, anyone knows what the HP multipler on Havoc is again for enemies?
copper hawk
Dark elves r just evil
High elves are snobs
Wood elves r basically dark elves
They a tively fuck with the othe races
And sabotage them
Me when the hammer is always at war but just not 40 thousand of them
copper hawk
hey guys, anyone knows what the HP multipler on Havoc is again for enemies?
There's a steam guide on it
It's towards the top
sullen forge
hey guys, anyone knows what the HP multipler on Havoc is again for enemies?
30+ is a damnation+ difficulty
fleet zealot
fleet zealot
hey guys, anyone knows what the HP multipler on Havoc is again for enemies?
there is a steam guide
copper hawk
I agree w Swozzle
sullen forge
Which that’s really the only one you need to research seeing it massively increases HP breakpoints etc
copper hawk
She had anti character development
fleet zealot
should prob be pinned tbh
lament blaze
I didn't play VT1 so i dont know the differences
copper hawk
Exactly lmfao
copper hawk
The supreme grand turboracist warms up to everyone
Even some of his voice lines for Keril dying are slightly respectful
fleet zealot
Saltzpyre warms up to the group
until he doesn't
copper hawk
ALL of keril's voicelines are spiteful for their deaths
fleet zealot
necromancer story
copper hawk
EXCEPT sienna
lament blaze
All I know is the banter is quite fun and nice for the first 10 hours.
When you're playing your 1000th mission a lot less so.
sullen forge
ALL of keril's voicelines are spiteful for their deaths
She’s a bitch!!!!!!!
fleet zealot
blindside's SoT, goes for Engineer, thank god kruber wasn't a spiteful dick
copper hawk
I think the nicest character in the game is Ironbreaker Bardin
fleet zealot
ironbreaker isn't "main" canon tho
lament blaze
Bardin in general is a fun lad
copper hawk
Slayer is i know
fleet zealot
no it isn't
copper hawk
Even then he's still very chill
fleet zealot
Oh who gives a shit about canon
i'm going to shoot you with a cannon
sullen forge
Azumgi? Azumgi?!
We love Bardin
fleet zealot
because the actual character development is there in the tier upgrade from vt1->vt2, then their change into their dlc class
copper hawk
Well a tually no
None of them are or arent canon
Lohner has journal entries on it
Timeline chaos magic
copper hawk
In lohners journals he refers to them sometimes as their dlc careers
But not always
Hence the other journals
copper hawk
its a co-op horde game
Because the coop horde game takes place in one of the oldest warhammer ips with heaps and heaps of lore
No sorry
fleet zealot
the canon uber5 now is Grail Knight, Outcast Engineer, Sister of the Thorn, Warrior Priest of Sigmar, and Necromancer
fleet zealot
rough galleon
nah just a bit ostracised cause they thought he was crazy cause ratmen
fleet zealot
idk now i'm just kinda annoyed cause of the whole "saltz had progression he's so nice now" until the necromancer journal
median steeple
the witchhunters understood him using sienna to fight iirc I gotta find it
copper hawk
Him and Sienna had the worst relationship
fleet zealot
How did he ever become a WP of S
pretty sure it was post them finding out the chaos waste expedition was being messed with by belakor
rough galleon
How did he ever become a WP of S
the whole citadel of eternity mate
got baited by belakor who abused his crisis of faith, but sigmar actually kinda stepped in and buffed our boy up
fleet zealot
the whole citadel of eternity mate
got baited by belakor who abused his crisis o...
this is the one
fleet zealot
Him and Sienna had the worst relationship
he was ready to knock out bardin and did knock out kerillian
copper hawk
Good
Hate the rlf
Murder the elf
Throw the elf into a pit
Feed her to plague toads
fleet zealot
if kruber didn't intervene cause he's not a spiteful brickhead
rough galleon
master of ulgu more like master of ugly
fleet zealot
we need more krubers
rough galleon
if kruber didn't intervene cause he's not a spiteful brickhead
literally bricked saltzpyre in the head
copper hawk
Makes sense for saltz
fleet zealot
He went for bardin LMAO
copper hawk
Warmin up then the ultimate betrayal ,,
He's also a teensy bit unhinged ,
In character 4 him ,,
Canon career for me is zealot
Cuz it's the most fun..
And it has wiggly piggly
rough galleon
"canon for me"
fleet zealot
bitches don't use headcanon or my fanfiction anymore
they just say "the canon is what i like the most"
copper hawk
I dont believe u
fleet zealot
girl who sat next to me in computer class was big into homestuck and tumblr
fleet zealot
I dont believe u
u can believe what you will, never got into tumblr
i was too much of a gamer
lament blaze
I hear people say headcanon
fleet zealot
it was world of warcraft, then gmod and tf2, then dota 2
no time for social
i'm grinding
lament blaze
But I also know a lot lot lot of bitter fallout fans
fleet zealot
also we can go in the opposite direction, if you headcanon characters as gay or trans, you are obviously giga satan and shoving it down people's throats, you woke mob
fallout fans are permanently bitter
fleet zealot
either they are stuck on new vegas, or weirdly coping about the bethesda line up
oh and like
the handful of 1 and 2 simps even tho the gameplay for those has aged terribly
lament blaze
Fallout fans will never be happy swozzle
I am happy.
I have 3 wonderful games that I love and can continue to enjoy. I am so fine with stopping my consumption of fallout with new vegas
copper hawk
I liked the marvel movies so
rough galleon
no matter what kind of fallout fan you are, it's the wrong kind according to fallout fans
copper hawk
I was entertained
sullen forge
I am happy.
I have 3 wonderful games that I love and can continue to enjoy. I a...
I’ve played the 3+ line up and enjoyed every single one of them
copper hawk
I enjoyed the show a Lot
sullen forge
I literally don’t understand why they’re so fucking bitter about everything
copper hawk
Cuz they're mostly old people
Like middle aged becoming old
Prime age for being bitter
sullen forge
Times change old man
median steeple
https://tenor.com/view/seal-clap-gif-3825042206276800481
seal !
sullen forge
Don’t play the game cause I said so type
rough galleon
i enjoyed having a voiced protagonist in 4, even with the whole "yes, yes (sarcastic), no(yes), goodbye" thing
spare talon
double boss door kill
fleet zealot
copper hawk
i enjoyed having a voiced protagonist in 4, even with the whole "yes, yes (sarca...
Yah
It felt super campu
Campy
And i felt it was kind of charming
copper hawk
Ohg..
fleet zealot
idk i hate fo4 cause it reminded me of harry potter
lament blaze
The new vegas stans are bitter because new vegas was genuinely, in my opinion, a breakthrough in storytelling in games and bethesda had no desire to run with it.
There aren't 'games like new vegas' and there probably wont be since Obsidian has atrophed.
We have disco elysium though which surpassed new vegas even harder.
median steeple
I'm the king of fah harborrrr
copper hawk
And the updated engine
copper hawk
Kid named far habor
sullen forge
Seeing it was boiled down to yes no and questions
copper hawk
Voiced Protag wasnt the issue tbh
fleet zealot
things only move cause of the player character, the factions are wildly incompetent and/or cartoonishly evil
sullen forge
Yuppers
copper hawk
One of the top 3 fallout dlcs tbh
rough galleon
The new vegas stans are bitter because new vegas was genuinely, in my opinion, a...
at least pillars was good
lament blaze
Voiced protag wasn't the issue.
The fact that fallout 4 is not a game about interacting with people was the issue.
copper hawk
Uh except the memory part
lament blaze
For the new vegas fans
fleet zealot
the "best" faction was railroad but they aren't a fucking major faction they are a small group. so i went with railroad/minutemen alliance
copper hawk
And danse
Best faction was Brotherhood of Steel
Fuck y
YOY
I LOVE POWAR ARMOIIIIR
fleet zealot
i put danse into a grave
copper hawk
Midwest
sullen forge
Okay fair
rough galleon
Voiced Protag wasnt the issue tbh
dialogue circles need to be removed from the industry, and we need proper indications of what we're actually gonna fucking say. veilguard was absolutely terrible for this, where you'd say something pretty different in a different tone to what you press
lament blaze
Fallout 2 BoS is goated beacuse they're just shitting their fucking pants
copper hawk
Contrarian opinion
lament blaze
the entire game
copper hawk
I liked East in 3
lament blaze
poop in underwear
fleet zealot
dialogue circles need to be removed from the industry, and we need proper indica...
yea, but i think voice acting is here to stay
and if you are doing voice acting
copper hawk
Which fit the regression from 1 and 2
fleet zealot
you are going to use wheels
lament blaze
you are going to use wheels
No need to do so
copper hawk
i put danse into a grave
Blocked
I always romanced Danse
Danse is pookie
I LOVE DANSE
lament blaze
Though I do see the appeal because it's more jarring for the player to read something in a tone and not have it matched
fleet zealot
No need to do so
if you have a ton of in-depth, detailed options, that is more time for the VA, more money to be spent on the VA and for the sound people
sullen forge
Here’s a hot take
copper hawk
Uh oh
sullen forge
76 is actually kinda fun when you have a few friends to play it with
fleet zealot
at that point, "silent" protag is better
lament blaze
if you have a ton of in-depth, detailed options, that is more time for the VA, m...
That's not what they were saying though. They were saying they want to get rid of their responses not being laid bare.
copper hawk
76 is actually kinda fun when you have a few friends to play it with
LMFAO
Fid kez frog and tin convert u
fleet zealot
76 is actually kinda fun when you have a few friends to play it with
i played it for an hour and a half and refunded it
lament blaze
"we need proper indications of what we're actually gonna fucking say"
lament blaze
that was their point
copper hawk
Did kez*
fleet zealot
like, having it on network
copper hawk
Ohg
copper hawk
U r stronger than i if ur still in the grubcord
sullen forge
But anyways
sullen forge
U r stronger than i if ur still in the grubcord
Barely look in there anymore
copper hawk
Break free of it
lament blaze
plus the melee somehow being the worse i've ever felt in the series
Melee in 3 and NV are so bad I can enjoy it just cause its super airy and doesnt take away player movement.
melee in 4 and 76 is terrible because it's clunky AND bad
copper hawk
I was the first..
sullen forge
plus the melee somehow being the worse i've ever felt in the series
They’ve changed the game a SHIT ton to be a lot more QOL player friendly
fleet zealot
Melee in 3 and NV are so bad I can enjoy it just cause its super airy and doesnt...
nv bad
copper hawk
And wont be duh laste..
sullen forge
And that’s why I actually am kinda enjoying it
fleet zealot
They’ve changed the game a SHIT ton to be a lot more QOL player friendly
in the last year?
prob not
sullen forge
Also NV glazers please STFU!!!!!
sullen forge
in the last year?
Yes in the last year
fleet zealot
the only downside is the fallout setting being ass cause bethesda has a post apoc kink
copper hawk
PAY UR TAXES !!!!!!!!!!
sullen forge
You can actually make your weapons what you want via legendaries instead of just
Get lucky lmao
fleet zealot
LONG LIVE THE NCR
of course you'd side with the bureaucrats
copper hawk
They're all bad options
frozen kernel
I loooooove the ncr..
Im gonna bury you alive
copper hawk
Yes Man is funny as fuck
frozen kernel
I loved you cica
sullen forge
I Always
copper hawk
Only one that's like
lament blaze
The NCR taught me to love my country while acknowledging and being critical of its flaws. Ik that's just "you were young and impressionable then" but still.
Before that I was just. An edgy america-hater to the Nth degre.
fleet zealot
Yes Man is only bad cause it's obv finished towards the very end of development
copper hawk
The NCR taught me to love my country while acknowledging and being critical of i...
Yarp..
copper hawk
It’s funny
All of yes man is funny
fleet zealot
It’s funny
I did it for my lesbian
frozen kernel
Mr House is the only logical option 
median steeple
Why?
because the brotherhood of steel are great unironically, I love every iteration of them bad and good. Fo1 and Fo2 BH my beloved
fleet zealot
Mr House is the only logical option <:housesmug:818712369651253268>
if I could drown house in concrete i would
modern lintel
what the fuck is an ncr message brought to by fallout 3 better gang
sullen forge
I despise Legion cause they’re going to eventually fall and I don’t need a state mandated wife to feel good about myself
lament blaze
I love that the leftwingers went hard in the paint for Yes Man while just completely ignoring the fact that you just become another mister house with absolutely 0 power checks or balances.
copper hawk
I love all the factions
lament blaze
They just, turn their head away
fleet zealot
anyone who unironically starts supporting Legion should be put on a watchlist
copper hawk
They're all so believable and flawed
frozen kernel
I love that the leftwingers went hard in the paint for Yes Man while just comple...
Yes Man is totally not gonna turn on you when he finishes updating
fleet zealot
I love that the leftwingers went hard in the paint for Yes Man while just comple...
because it's a headcanon
frozen kernel
Promise
fleet zealot
there is a ton of room of what could happen because of what your courier is capable of
copper hawk
Where do u find sustenance how does any of this work
fleet zealot
maybe you really are the good karma, speech 100 leader the Mojave needed
and can move things into being a better system
copper hawk
Im gonna bury you alive
I looove the ncr
fleet zealot
except things don't get better because the setting is stuck in a ditch
copper hawk
I played many ncr chars in fo tt..
fleet zealot
cause god forbid humans actually do reasonable recovery efforts after YEARS
grizzled aspen
I despise Legion cause they’re going to eventually fall and I don’t need a state...
"State mandated wife" dude the legion makes all women slaves, I'm pretty sure calling it "mandated" is not exactly accurate.
copper hawk
My fav 1 killed a bunch of slavers w a machete..
lament blaze
You have to do a lot of mental legwork. Like none of these places could exist with how TINY they are.
But if you are willing to do that legwork that they're just representations of much larger societies
fleet zealot
My fav 1 killed a bunch of slavers w a machete..
i prefer explosives for slavers
lament blaze
it becomes extremely believable imo
sullen forge
"State mandated wife" dude the legion makes all women slaves, I'm pretty sure ca...
Yeah it’s why I don’t like them
lament blaze
but that's almost any game
sullen forge
Something something guy running up with shirt saying “slavery is bad”
copper hawk
I also like the ncr drip
fleet zealot
You have to do a lot of mental legwork. Like none of these places could exist wi...
size is just, hard to properly show, cause the game needs to have it's size scaled to be playable, and they also can't just load in a ton of generic npcs and strain the engine to make a realistic city
lament blaze
Veteran armor is the coolest armor in the fallout franchise
sullen forge
copper hawk
And super believable for an organized army for a semi-industrial power
lament blaze
Power armor doesn't hold a goddamn candle to that glorious riot gear drip
fleet zealot
caesar was a tactical genius
fleet zealot
saved me time, I could slot in the chip for yes man AND shoot his tumor filled head
copper hawk
Various pieces of equipment
sullen forge
NCR taking out the servos in order to use salvaged BOS PA lmao
fleet zealot
thanks for the invite
copper hawk
Im a slut for like
fleet zealot
I don't respect the NCR
copper hawk
Pre-43/44 reform soviet era uniforms for infantry
lament blaze
NCR taking out the servos in order to use salvaged BOS PA lmao
literal metal armor reskin lmao
copper hawk
And the army in general
The ncr has that aesthetic in droves
But w a post apocalyptic americana flair
Especially w the ncr overhaul mod
sullen forge
literal metal armor reskin lmao
It’s cool and all but like
lament blaze
The fact that power armor training is something that you can easily miss if you dont give a shit
I loved.
Like hell yeah lmao
median steeple
I love both the old and new PA designs
glad wren
copper hawk
median steeple
Fallout 4 power armor should have training I don't care what you say
copper hawk
Loooove this mod zo much
median steeple
So true breastie
copper hawk
The mod w the shoe like boots
median steeple
I use it as well
copper hawk
Like those boots look exactly like what the Soviet issued boots were
lament blaze
Fallout 4 power armor should have training I don't care what you say
i'd be fine with no training required just dont literally give it to a level 2 player lmao
copper hawk
W the footwraps as well
The thick cotton or burlap/canvas coat
The knapsack backpack
Very pre 43 soviet guards rifle line unit vibe
Looove the peasant army aesthetic
median steeple
I just find it weird they removed training from power armor right when they make it actually feel like it needs it
median steeple
the stink
copper hawk
Also aint no way legion surviving against service rifle ar 10s
R u kidding me
They even have some legally distinc m4s
They shoot 556x45 not 223 either so there's no but muh powdah cuz of 223
But thats okay
Cuz their aesthetic is pawesome too
lament blaze
Football pads would lowkey be goated aganst blunt weaponry though
sullen forge
https://tenor.com/view/fallout-on-prime-fallout-prime-video-bethesda-brotherhood...
Enclave and BOS always having the coolest armor
lament blaze
tribal swings big ass club and hits your shoulder pads
frozen kernel
Isnt it peak how the BoS have a convenient way of getting a lot of XP really quick
It also gets rid of the BoS
copper hawk
Feasibly the equipment of ur average infantryman means that in any line engagement or irregular fighting the ncr trooper is superior to that of anything else at the basic level in the mojave
copper hawk
tribal swings big ass club and hits your shoulder pads
Oh for sure
frozen kernel
fleet zealot
Legion fights dirty
copper hawk
Padded armor like gambeson realistically stop slashing well as well
sullen forge
You’re right
copper hawk
only vet legionnaires+ have guns
Yep
lament blaze
thats why they start doing a lot more stealth operations with NCR cause they cant just band for band them
copper hawk
Legion fights dirty
So does the NCR
fleet zealot
Ncr fights with old tactics
lament blaze
like dirty bombing them
sullen forge
Recruits are forced to earn their right for a gun
copper hawk
Remember what happened w the Khans
They ambushed them and mowed them down
Not just the (old) men
But the women
And the children ,,
fleet zealot
Individual ncr folk can be skilled
copper hawk
Those that participated in that massacre were just grunts
misty ravine
I like to think the only reason Ceasar's Legion have a lot of melee troops is the same as the enemy faction in Darktide—they just have such sheer numbers of fodder troops that there simply aren't enough guns for them all
lament blaze
No one skilled participated in the massacre
thats not correct
1st recon is not "unskilled"
misty ravine
And a large army with a lot of mouths to feed in a post-apocalyptic desert can afford to throw some fodder at the enemy to distract them while your real troops (i.e. those with guns) deal with them
copper hawk
It was almost entirely grunts iirc
lament blaze
they're def an elite branch of the army.
copper hawk
1st Recon yes
lament blaze
they were the ones sitting and attacking the fleeing elderly
copper hawk
Man now i want to play nv for the 3975039th time
lament blaze
and women and children
copper hawk
It's one of the weirder things where it's like
NCR has trouble with irregular hit and run engagements from the Legion
But not at all w the Khans
lament blaze
legion is 10000x better at it
median steeple
bitter springs didn't happen and if it did they deserve it
copper hawk
Insofar as theyve beat them like in every battle and have them on their last legs
grizzled aspen
Legion has competent commanders because they kill the incompetent ones.
grizzled aspen
Power armor, hold the power.
copper hawk
The NCR !!!!!!!
lament blaze
the NCR is an extremely well written faction and I basically consider them the protagonist of the "core region" fallouts
lament blaze
Yes i know they dont become NCR until fallout 2 dont @ me. i know
copper hawk
@lament blaze
misty ravine
the NCR is an extremely well written faction and I basically consider them the p...
I wonder how Bethesda will contrive to put the NCR on the East Coast like they did everyone else
sullen forge
Istfg bro
copper hawk
2 working vertibirds
lament blaze
i have broken up with bethesda fallouts
if i play fallout 5 i will be "la la la la la i cant hear you" through the story bits
fleet zealot
I really dont think they can put the new california republic on the east coast
It’s just too far, even for bethesda
copper hawk
Unless WC BoS canonically became oomfs and buried the plasma gun w the NCR at the end of nv
fleet zealot
They were struggling with supply lines and communication when they were stretched to hoover damn
copper hawk
Idk how the ncr will be shoe horned in as an active faction
lament blaze
i dont think they will be
copper hawk
I dont know man
lament blaze
the NCR is not iconic to anyone but oldheads who will be bitter
oh wait they're in the show fuck
copper hawk
The BoS are even worse in that regard
lament blaze
actually kms
sullen forge
Hello yes can we have a fallout set in the rust belt
copper hawk
Where tf they get the equipment to make their own fucking power armor
sullen forge
Thanks
copper hawk
At least the ncr is industrialized
lament blaze
i think it is not unreasonable to suppose that the NCR can start making a sort of proto-power armor
copper hawk
Post-war economic miracle !
lament blaze
like not "salvaged armor" but not 45d level
misty ravine
Where tf they get the equipment to make their own fucking power armor
Depends on how much industrial base is needed to build its components—maybe not much considering what we are able to do with Repair skill and scraps
sullen forge
i think it is not unreasonable to suppose that the NCR can start making a sort o...
With how much they’ve fought the BOS
copper hawk
Depends on how much industrial base is needed to build its components—maybe not ...
Unless..
They allied w a big industrial power..
That can supply them an endless amount of gizmos..
sullen forge
Probably salvaged at first before actually getting to their prototypes
median steeple
Where tf they get the equipment to make their own fucking power armor
people forgot that T60 is worse than T51
lament blaze
but I think narratively you put yourself in a tough situation
median steeple
it's just T45 but slightly upgraded and not even that well
misty ravine
With decent machine tools they could probably fabricate replacement parts (maybe even entire suits) with detailed knowledge of their construction and operating principles
lament blaze
Because now you have an even more powerful faction
you have to escalate the enemy faction too
and you get power creep
misty ravine
Making them very slowly, essentially handmade like Rolls Royce cars but still doable
sullen forge
LMAO
copper hawk
But it checks our cuz the legion r all furries
And so r all their fans
For... some rsn
lament blaze
and bethesda doesnt like making nations
copper hawk
Idk why
lament blaze
no real nationstate exists in any bethesda fallout
the bos does not count
sullen forge
And so r all their fans
I never noticed but I massively noticed the Trad-Mindset type people flocking to them lmao
median steeple
and bethesda doesnt like making nations
Motherfucker the best nation that could ever exist is in Fallout 3
the nation of dave
copper hawk
I never noticed but I massively noticed the Trad-Mindset type people flocking to...
Troo
median steeple
put some respect on his name
misty ravine
A lot of furries love authoritarian ideologies for some reason I cannot fathom ||jk it's autism||
sullen forge
A lot of furries love authoritarian ideologies for some reason I cannot fathom |...
They also really like anarchy
copper hawk
@median steeple SLAVE
hearty nebula
NV mid...
sullen forge
Idfk why
median steeple
We're playing rivals
I just got off
median steeple
but I will get back on
lament blaze
caesar's VA really did kill it tbh
misty ravine
They also really like anarchy
Extremes of ideology anyways, I guess. Ever hear a libertarian/ancap list with a straight face all the bullshit they say they'd grudgingly put up with just to maintain ideological consistency?
sullen forge
Stinkatrice did you see Psycho beat H40
copper hawk
Uh yah
median steeple
I love legion stans because they're so stupid
misty ravine
he is truly charismatic and lots of 13 year olds fell for it
Legion are mentally 13 and/or were forcibly integrated at 13 or younger so that checks out
copper hawk
She's the woman stark of darktide
lament blaze
I love legion stans because they're so stupid
I love the legion narratively.
We slowly walk away from people who love the legion ideologically
copper hawk
She KILLED THEM in a CAVE with a BOX OF SCRAPS
sullen forge
Meow fucking trounced u guys wtf
Mfer is still having the Dorn damage mog mindset KEEP YOURSELF SAFE
copper hawk
Nop
sullen forge
SO ANNOYING
median steeple
yeah I love the legion narratively as well raider nations are always cool
copper hawk
The evis latch incident
sullen forge
I was literally telling Vic and Psycho where to go the entire time seeing positioning was key
Psycho died like
Twice
copper hawk
Psykers r squishy
vocal hatch
Was there an update or something? My ogryn feels squishy all of a sudden.
copper hawk
Reminder that zealot is weaker further from the line they are
median steeple
Psycho died like
I fell through the railing btw
copper hawk
Not the hang back and shoot w 100+ broken ranged wpns class,,
misty ravine
Was there an update or something? My ogryn feels squishy all of a sudden.
When's the last time you played
copper hawk
Smh my flippin head ,,
median steeple
OSHA has failed me
vocal hatch
This morning
copper hawk
Was there an update or something? My ogryn feels squishy all of a sudden.
Are you running batter
And toughness on hit talents
lament blaze
Not the hang back and shoot w 100+ broken ranged wpns class,,
in havoc they're now the hang back and shoot with 1 broken flamer class 
sullen forge
OSHA has failed me
THERE IS NO OSHA IN 40K LIL BRO
vocal hatch
Yes
median steeple
the 2nd one was on me 100% but the first was bullshit
hard nexus
in havoc they're now the hang back and shoot with 1 broken flamer class <:KEKW_o...
flamer is boring
melee fun
copper hawk
in havoc they're now the hang back and shoot with 1 broken flamer class <:KEKW_o...
Kid named purg psyker
misty ravine
This morning
In that case just gotta put it down to game variation 🤷♂️
median steeple
there was a railing and I slipped through it
vocal hatch
THERE IS NO OSHA IN 40K LIL BRO
If they were even strong enough to do anything anyways.
sullen forge
THE OMNISSIAH HATES INEFFICIENCY AND OSHA IS
copper hawk
Also flamer is weaker at distance if ur usin anoint
U aint winnin the vet not broken argument lil blud
lament blaze
flamer is boring
quick flamer for the boys then back on my melee bs
hard nexus
oooohggg i’m anointing
fleet zealot
copper hawk
Skitarri class when
modern lintel
iv had innumerable true survivor runs thrown by psykers trying to frontline when they arent capable
copper hawk
(Never)
hard nexus
iv had innumerable true survivor runs thrown by psykers trying to frontline when...
dodging is hard ok that means 2 whole inputs instead of just one
lament blaze
i prefer to bring boltgun for oh shit moments and bossing though
but if my team makes a request for flamer i oblige
misty ravine
THERE IS NO OSHA IN 40K LIL BRO
There is though ||and it was corrupted into a parody of its original form when the Iron Warriors fell to Chaos||
hard nexus
ugghhh
fleet zealot
Sour patch kids aren’t even sour to me anymore
copper hawk
That's why i dont eat
hard nexus
That's why i dont eat
heh…
copper hawk
I have my esquire eat for me
lament blaze
Sour patch kids aren’t even sour to me anymore
snort citric acid
fleet zealot
I need to get imported sour candy that is just covered in acid powder
copper hawk
And read for me
hard nexus
fleet zealot
Just to feel something l
sullen forge
There is though ||and it was corrupted into a parody of its original form when t...
And now you have the Mechanicum…
hard nexus
Fijiine ill go
:3
copper hawk
So brocken ,,
sullen forge
Need we say more
median steeple
@copper hawk ping me when you wanna slays I wanna chill downstairs and boogie
hard nexus
How about you shower
i literally just did
final iris
soloing stuff on d2 has caused me less pain than trying to do shocking stuff aaaAAAAA
modern lintel
would fix me
youd simply die
median steeple
it seems cica wants you
sullen forge
Do it again
hard nexus
(now i have 2 finish doing my hair)
i got a new shampoo n conditioner
and idk if i like it
despair !
modern lintel
i dont do conditioner
sullen forge
I have too
hard nexus
i dont do conditioner
short haired freak
modern lintel
my hairs prob longer then urs noob
hard nexus
my hairs prob longer then urs noob
how long is ur hair
modern lintel
3.5ft give or take
hard nexus
and if u don’t use conditioner pookie i KNOW ur ass has split ends
hard nexus
3.5ft give or take
so like what, mid-back?
modern lintel
almost to my hips
sullen forge
Mines on my shoulders atm but I’m getting that shit fucking removed eventually
hard nexus
my hair is about chest level rn
modern lintel
havent had a haircut since like 2019 maybe 20
hard nexus
but i need 2 get it trimmed
sullen forge
Prefer medium length or short
sullen forge
Of just not cutting your hair
How do you not get pissed off when you’re trying to eat
hard nexus
How do you not get pissed off when you’re trying to eat
by not looking down
modern lintel
i still had like just short of shoulder length for abt 2 years before stopped cutting
hard nexus
also, when it’s long enough
it actually stays behind u
or behind ur ears
oh god
memory jumpscare
median steeple
Wolf cuts my beloved
modern lintel
the worst experience is getting ear rings stuck in hair
hard nexus
the worst experience is getting ear rings stuck in hair
worst experience is brushing ur teeth n getting toothpaste in ur hair
sullen forge
Wolf cuts my beloved
What I’m borderline rocking right now
Should seriously get it cut though I’m not really crazy with Medium nearing long
modern lintel
the longer it gets the easier it is to manage imo
modern lintel
i dont actually have any earing rn i lost them like a month ago and need to buy new 1s
frozen kernel
How about you shower
How about you get in here and play some darktide 
sullen forge
How about no I’m laying in bed getting ready to sleep for work
modern lintel
something something sleeps for the weak and old
modern lintel
i hope it destorys u in ur sleep
median steeple
The evil wizard casting a spell
hearty nebula
How about you get in here and play some darktide <a:PaimonEatingCookie:100834778...
No
:3c
cuz ur NOOB
rocky marsh
For those who have played vt2, is it actually hard or just as romanticised as darktide's difficulty
median steeple
https://x.com/desert_noname/status/1878222375839584569?t=lFs94w6Yi2qV6oAz8M09-A&...
More jesters !
heady rapids
For those who have played vt2, is it actually hard or just as romanticised as da...
it's harder than dt for sure but it's subjective
like vanilla diff you can ramp up immensely
with deeds and twitch
rocky marsh
it's harder than dt for sure but it's subjective
Mechanically I find dt pretty easy.
But you have people on forums saying oh you need to master melee or whatever.
Vt2 forums people are saying 300 hours just to get skill floor down which seems really exaggerated.
Iirc I was running a5histg 80 hours in in dt
Maybe earlier I can't really remember
heady rapids
Mechanically I find dt pretty easy.
But you have people on forums saying oh you...
it varies from person to person tbh, a lot of people never even touch the hardest difficulties so it's harder to say where the skill floor actually is
sullen forge
@median steeple did you send this, cause I swear to god you did and it’s been stuck in my head for the past hour
slate haven
I must have a neurodegenerative disease the way I’m moving different
Moving lucrative
heady rapids
with deeds and twitch
there's also weaves but that's worse than havoc so...
and locked behind a paid dlc...
royal vortex
the best part about skill floors is when zealot chat gets into an obnoxiously long argument about if 'skill floor' means the minimum skill required to play something or the minimum effective output of something
(the answer is actually that it's what you walk on in a skill house)
heady rapids
and you can play on official modded realm with shit like cata 3 dwons dutch spice then come to gen chat and flex on kids that play on champion
modern lintel
More jesters !
rocky marsh
it varies from person to person tbh, a lot of people never even touch the hardes...
Idk in DT to get all yellow in pubs it's basically 80% build
hard nexus
Idk in DT to get all yellow in pubs it's basically 80% build
i mean u can get carried with a build
but that’s just OP builds
i’ve seen bad builds do really good damage
just because the player is good
rocky marsh
but that’s just OP builds
That's on a range I feel. Hmm. That would make for lengthy discussion. Then maybe I just break down what you really need to do mechanically in DT?
heady rapids
you also don't get access to things like sliding and are a lot less mobile
while the game is almost fully melee focused
hard nexus
That's on a range I feel. Hmm. That would make for lengthy discussion. Then mayb...
mechanically, you need to
be aware of positioning
prioritize targets
handle melee combat (a whip slew of things in and of itself)
manage ability cooldowns
be aware of special spawns
granted that’s easy enough on lower difficulties
rocky marsh
mechanically, you need to
be aware of positioning
prioritize targets
handle mel...
Yeah I wrote it before. Those things are really easy, and easy to learn
Kill priority is intuitive since you get fucked by trappers and e.g. hate them so you want to kill them on sight
hard nexus
granted that’s easy enough on lower difficulties
but on higher difficulties it compounds onto itself and can be very overwhelming
i disagree with it being build
hard nexus
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046914150363844779/119901375907...
in this
sure you can do every one of those easily enough
but having the game sense to do what and when and where and how
is something that really comes only with experience
plush estuary
Staying with the team gets you killed too
hard nexus
also true
rocky marsh
Melee combat unless you are using crusher weapon its mainly just lights and then dodge and shove sometimes.
The game sense isn't that hard to pick up.
plush estuary
I never stay with the team
rocky marsh
Staying with the team gets you killed too
I never stay with team because I want plasteel but that was for people struggling on normal damnation
hard nexus
Melee combat unless you are using crusher weapon its mainly just lights and then...
i mean yeah if you remove like
everything
then yes melee is just light spam and then dodge
plush estuary
It's same as VT, lights and heavy are only different in what they do to enemy types
Heavy spam works as well
hard nexus
but that’s ignoring mixed hordes, specials, managing dodges,
rocky marsh
i mean yeah if you remove like
I'm not going to type every single weapons special and how to use them.
That'd pretty fast to pick up
hard nexus
correct
rocky marsh
Also heavy for armour
That I know
And of course certain weapons have specials that e.g. have some use. I'm also not going to type that because it's per weapon and very fast to pick up
hard nexus
each individual skill itself is easy
hard nexus
the difficulty comes from everything compounded onto each other
combined with the innately chaotic nature of darktide and its director
(and teammates)
rocky marsh
Well the weapons say push attack usually only have one use. Say crusher weapon. That would be crowd clear or headshotting crusher enemy. Its not as if you need to run a flowchart to decide that
( to use the weapons push attack)
plush estuary
Little invested now
What's the main point your getting
I see meow saying that it's player skill not builds that matter for performance
hard nexus
I see meow saying that it's player skill not builds that matter for performance
for the most part yes
rocky marsh
I'm just saying I don't find it that hard. I think some of the regulars also agree DT isn't a mechanically intensive or hard game.
But then forums make out tide games to be some holy grail of difficulty for melee games
hard nexus
there’s obvious outliers of builds that just hard carry
hard nexus
I'm just saying I don't find it that hard. I think some of the regulars also agr...
dt is too easy at the moment in my opinion
aurics are too accessible
due to poor balancing
plush estuary
I'm just saying I don't find it that hard. I think some of the regulars also agr...
Depends on difficulty and build
hard nexus
however so many players would get killed pretty easily just by a bit of bad luck with spawns from the director
simply because they aren’t skilled enough to handle it
plush estuary
But I do say darktide is a difficult game with all of its variables
rocky marsh
Depends on difficulty and build
I mean for build like I said earlier classifying "OP" would be a long discussion because how do you differentiate like well made build but not OP vs OP because it's well made.
I could guess you run only non meta weapons but with well picked everything else.
But that just seems kind of dumb because you are purposefully running non meta weapons.
spare talon
But I do say darktide is a difficult game with all of its variables
darktide is difficult because it mechanically is very different from other games in terms of moment to moment interaction, and theres a lot of moving parts with those unique mechanics
but once those mechanics properly click in the players heads, its not that hard at all
quartz marsh
Oh we sharing animals now?
rocky marsh
See colr also thinks it's not hard
hard nexus
I mean for build like I said earlier classifying "OP" would be a long discussio...
there’s a difference between meta and OP
i wouldn’t say ds4 is meta, it’s extremely OP, just on another level
technically yes meta is the best stuff to run
i get that
but u get what i mean
plush estuary
Oh we sharing animals now?
It's zealot chat, share whatever
rocky marsh
What's the zealot chat guy that's very popular here. I suddenly forget his name
Is a guy but types abit like a girl
hard nexus
What's the zealot chat guy that's very popular here. I suddenly forget his name
cica? dorn?
oh
cica
rocky marsh
No no
hard nexus
@copper hawk
rocky marsh
No
plush estuary
Lol
hard nexus
lmfao
rocky marsh
As popular as exhil and lazorr
spare talon
me
rocky marsh
I think even he agreed dt not that hard game as well
hard nexus
I think even he agreed dt not that hard game as well
u have to remember, you’re asking people that are like top 10 in the world
at darktide
rocky marsh
there’s a difference between meta and OP
i wouldn’t say ds4 is meta, it’s extre...
Yeah I'm just saying you can't just say "you are clearing difficulty because weapon good" although I agree some weapons are power crept
remote lark
hi zealot chat
remote lark
Yeah I'm just saying you can't just say "you are clearing difficulty because wea...
i disagree with this
some ppl i know of are 100% weapon carried
x3
rocky marsh
u have to remember, you’re asking people that are like top 10 in the world
Alot of the psyker chat mains I talk to also agree. I only use those names because you know them.
hard nexus
Yeah I'm just saying you can't just say "you are clearing difficulty because wea...
but you can say that, a rashad plasma vet can be dogshit but as long as his build is passable, he’ll get through aurics relatively easily
remote lark
ask them to play with anything besides rashad or knife or ds and they'll just die like hampsters
plush estuary
Losing the view, so going to sleep. have fun
hard nexus
Losing the view, so going to sleep. have fun
pale spindle
Am I the only person left who still likes running shock maul? 🤔
hard nexus
Am I the only person left who still likes running shock maul? 🤔
cica does
royal vortex
I think even he agreed dt not that hard game as well
the conclusion you come to about the game's difficulty is entirely dependent on the metrics you measure it by
i would also hope i don't find it hard after close to 3,000 steam hours
rocky marsh
but you can say that, a rashad plasma vet can be dogshit but as long as his buil...
Josho is vt2 hard
That's what I'm here for
royal vortex
if your metric is "can it beat auric damnation" the conclusion should probably be that the game is pretty easy, because you can do literally nothing and still win if someone else carries you (and the likeliness of the other 3 people being terrible isn't too high)
rocky marsh
if your metric is "can it beat auric damnation" the conclusion should probably b...
Nah i was saying all yellow in a5histh or a5mael as the metric
royal vortex
vt2 is far less interesting to me than darktide was, so i did not put nearly as many hours into it, so for me it's probably harder
royal vortex
scoreboard is perhaps the worst metric to judge difficulty by
hard nexus
vt2 is far less interesting to me than darktide was, so i did not put nearly as ...
real!!!
copper hawk
@median steeple
hard nexus
cica jumpscare
royal vortex
that's not indicative of your performance, it's indicative of a relative balance between you and 3 other people
rocky marsh
scoreboard is perhaps the worst metric to judge difficulty by
It'd the easiest one to discuss.
I can't really just say " I feel like mechanically the things I'm required to do, even taking into account I need to do all od those things together, is not hard"
heady rapids
yellow number chasers when I put them beside a purgatus psyker in a h40
royal vortex
darcy used to tell me my mannerisms make me seem robotic
so at least i somewhat appear human now
rocky marsh
It'd the easiest one to discuss.
I can't really just say " I feel like mechani...
Because then someone else will just say " but I find it hard"
royal vortex
It'd the easiest one to discuss.
I can't really just say " I feel like mechani...
it has very little empirical value
quartz marsh
darcy used to tell me my mannerisms make me seem robotic
I had people get on my case just because I use punctuation
hard nexus
top damaging in pubs is very easy
copper hawk
Must ,, not ,, argue ,, pedantically ,,
royal vortex
i've outdone almost every shout plasma vet in scoreboard metrics i've ever played with. does that make every weapon i use better than plasma?
quartz marsh
Who knew that punctuating sentences is enough to piss some people off.
