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Charge Propaganda ๐ฃ๏ธ
control 2 when?????????
i want a game after the hiss is gone where i can lead squads to contain random shit
err
Iโm trying to do a relic blade crit build, but the one Iโm currently using only has 66 finesse. Should I try to find a better one or does it not matter too much?
Damage stat only affects first target
this is NOT an scp copy
you're never going to believe this
The difference between 60 to 80% is literally .8 damage

All the damage the flamer does is inflicted by the Burn stat
It needs to be 76% or higher
76% for max stacks of burn (16)
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After a few seconds of corsucation enemies drop likes flies
but what about that 0.8 damage caused by 80% damage instead of 60% damage? (This post was made by smart ass gang)
For only your entire wallet you can help this blepping ferret buy more chicken
Dawn's worst take
wait
Idk why he even made it or was so aggressive w it
dawn said that
Any1 who says damage is dump is a moron..
It does matter
Yah lmfao it was weird
You want mobility dump
wait was he defending the mobility dump on the flamer?
Try to get 80 in every stat but mobility
Yeah, I canโt ever find anything in the shop or Melkโs tho
Just buy whites from brunt shop
I thought he was trolling
This is badass
Yah
And sayin any1 who says damage dump on the flamer is frogwater
I... I was being a smart ass when I was saying something about the damage a little bit ago... God I can't believe people think the damage stat on the flamer is good
It seemed so intense for somethin so benign i thought he had 2 be trolling
I didnโt think about that. Thanks.
yuh why I dont listen to number crunchers in general or even stuff from him. Hes weirdly aggro for no reason sometimes
It's an opinion on a videogame brother ๐
Trouble in Ancient grubcord paradise..
on the left side of the screen
Remember the potential stat is the most important so you know if itโs worth investing or not
barely visable to the eye
Also mobility useless on flamer lmao, itโs actually really good for kiting elites you are cooking
Fartin on my roommate's door is one of the most legendary vids of all time
Also bracken gonna splat u
That extra distance helps a lot since it has ranged weapon dodges
I... I only take mobility dump flamers when all the stats besides damage are 80%(76% at least for burn)... because idc that much about the bonus mobility or the bonus damage... as long as the burn is 76% and the cloud radius and ammo are 80%...
When debating on dump stats and optimal builds, always remember:
Bruh
I dump damage
One out of four white weapons from brunt is perfect
So i just go till i get a perfect one
I have a pen flames an a meta one
I wonder how king assripper has a wife
I just use the meta one
What perks and blessings do you peeps put on your bolt pistols? ๐
Run and gun and puncture
Could you show flamer thammer setup if you have one?
Flakiac
Surgical and puncture
I mostly just want a perfect cloud radius ammo and burn flamer... beyond that I don't care quite yet until I have a decent bit of extra capital to spend on getting a perfect flamer on all 4 zealots
Maniac and unyielding
Run and gun puncture elites maniac take anoint and collat dump
Thanks ๐
Or flak
I know psykers donโt dump damage on staff they dump warp resistance iirc
Welcome
Thanks also!
But they can also beef their warp damage up more
Psykers are incentivised by several perks to do so
Yee
I wish the flamer was heat gen
Itโd be evil
I mean they did it in vermintide
The name ๐
@copper hawk I'm assuming Piety just doesn't give much value? Feels almost mandatory in other builds
Do we spend more time with flamer out than thammer
Elite damage?
idk about for havoc, but, in general the worst keystone for the thammer is piety
No need for crits
It's a funny meme
MAYBE with Crucis but Ironhelm lives and breathes on IJ
or Martyrdom but Martyrdom feels stinkpilled
It's strange the glow up piety had had
I ran piety hammer once and it was worst mistake ever
Ive been usin piety as a hipster for a while
And stalwart
Even got shit 4 it
Now everynya uses it ,,
Elves stay winnin ,,
For havoc... I honestly don't know what is good. I listen to the people who talk about it so I can learn, in case someone asks... but I really never plan on playing havoc since I don't find the mode fun.

beeg version
Emmas insistence on defending chorus got a vindication post havoc release 
frankly insulted that you have made a build identical to one of mine then named it a catboy build
i have to change it now
and its your fault
i live rent free in cole's head
Is sneaky knife zealot any good in havoc? If so, y'all have build recommendations?
not rent free
you are breaking and entering
Please don't grief your team
trespassing
what are they stealing?
my sanity
When a squatter stays somewhere for long enough and have paid bills they can prove they own the property
stll wondering who this little fword is
fun person
What bills are you paying that are relevant to Cole
๐
bf rights
bf rights
Did I make accidental funny joke
Licking My Front Agrivated Oranges
๐
idk... I couldn't think of anything witty
licking my femmes ass off
Cole r u hungover at all
Legendary
Mutated
Foul
Augmented
Ogryns
U drank a shitton last night
probably
Straight paint thinner
tummy angry at me
I had like a fifth orna sixth of what u had and im sufferin too
lamayooo
re-uploaded so you can actually find it on YouTube whoever links the og post first gets pinned
I just know we just scared off another lurker from zealot chat
Thistle thursday is tomorrow!!!
i will explode this thistle
Time to go punish myself by watching path of exile 2 youtube stuff from woolie
Just about convinced me to move in
I'm convinced all this holy Emperor act is actually a cover for degenerate heresy
welcome ๐
Shart
I should also force myself to watch woolies path of exile 1 full guide again as well
Is that kick fatal
Very cool
he wasnt meant to move : (
DO IT FOR HER
alright guys, gonna ask you to calm it down in here
Sorry
anyone wanna join for 3veg? :3c
That was my bad, I got a bit out of hand with that one
Lmfao
I cant play rn ๐
It's over 4 u dpw
@lusty turtle I went ahead and deleted it so no one else would be subjected to my... wording. x.x
:3
U might have 2
just join whenev
Flagellate urself dpw
Idk if im joinin
Im rlly tired
Play w/o me for naow
I need 2 hydrate n caffeinate
okidoki
Still better than verblase
Already on it. x.x
noob is always bedridden
They were roommates
they were 100% roommates
'in soviet russia, enemy kiss you!'
Roommates that share beds cause of the economy
So Russian conscripts going through "hazing" must just be getting taunted extra hard
i too kiss my adversaries on the lips to taunt them
its ok guys we have the level 6 veteran to fill in for us
dorn can not parkour
I love doomed toxic yuri!!!!
Dorn is back?
The perfectly cut "FU-"
yes
In our hearts
Damgerius is the most corny name ever xd
No, he will never be unbanned.
What did he do anyways?
His ban was for witch hunting because he publicly posted stuff about a dude that was a giant racist, among other things.
witch hunter captain
banned for instigating a witch hunt
His appeal was denied because of "lies about being a playtester."
(he couldve just dm a mod)
Sounds based to me 
Yeah, and the guy in question was running free until zealout chat blew up and called the ban into question.
Took that to get a mod to take notice.
Then it was "properly investigated" afterward. (It should've been investigated before Dorn was shot)
specifically me
aquino was there for it
i threw a giant fucking hissy fit about it lmao
sounds like average L for this place
Wait you're neiryn.
yes
Yeah, it did not look good on moderation staff.
Not at all.
Warhammer community has too many incels, gotta purge them every once in a while
would you rather be bumpy weird or smooth weird
Why not both
I also had some problems with mods when there is transphobia and instead of telling off the transphobes they just take the easy route and tell us to both "stop"
gullable enough to unironically see imperium as the ''only good side'' and being an incel kinda goes in parallel lmao, similar thought processes
Gonna get taken out behind the shed
In my experience its actually good for a community to police itself.
its got many unironic fascist ๐
But what do I know?
just got done doing a bunch of modding and got really confused at this statement
Tbh this is understandable for a company discord
They have to keep a consumer approach first, morals second
Moderation, not modding the game
tfw they wont ban everyone that has opinions i dont like
The rules are pretty cut and dry regarding hate speech.
:)
Damn I feel like I'm back in school.
'I know timmy punched you, but you're actually both in trouble'
To be fair the number of books pushing imperium do create a lot of innocent imperium fans
OH YEA, WE LL FUCK THE RULES! I HATE SPEECH!
aaand thats why 'official' discords will always be doodoo in the end
I realized that lmfao, in my head I thought you meant transphobic modifications and was mind blown 
the modding team for this discord has been a lot more lax and easy going than another public server Im in
if it was as strict zealot chat as it is now wont exist lmao
The mod team here is pretty chill
Tbh this server isn't nearly as bad as.... HD2 ๐
They only come out when things are getting especially unhinged
darktidecord is a true meeting of many minds, many points of view. quite diverse
They did actually pull the trigger on Tanner, so they actually have the balls to do what needs to be done
To be fair Tanner is just
the youtube dude?
A very toxic individual
what did he do lmfao
That was for the best
Racism towards Juneteenth
All I've heard about tanner is negative stuff pretty much lol
aint no way
that's crazy
all you've heard about tanner comes from the discord that banned him
Isn't Tanner basically just a spoiled jobless rich kid anyway? I'm sure I heard something like that
problematic opinions one one after another
yeah and its more helpful to bring forth problems with server members into their DMs (they encourage this btw)
;_; what the fuck does that have to do with anything
#zealot-class on picking a discussion topic vs #zealot-class hating on tanner
because doing it publicly will devolves to just he does this he does that
And individuals that support Tanner.
Your upbringing typically informs your worldview and how you interact with others
War thunder ?
and you think it makes them...always wrong, i take it?

work 
Eugh,,
Maybe so, but, the community does not strictly base all info on if someone was banned
Kinda burnt out again
The most nonbiased opinion I've heard given of him is that he's quote..."A mechanically talented player with a very large ego"
On darktide ,,
No, I think that his situation has given him a superiority complex
Which is proven by the fact he believes himself unable to be wrong pretty much
On that alone and from the demeanor in videos I've seen, he doesn't seem like my kinda people
And his discord
tide player? Bloated ego? No wae
Lmfao
then say that, i suppose
Ive watched his newesr vids and his attitude has gotten a lot better than it was a year ago
Ive heard about who he is from Warframe people
I mean Dorn could be described the same way depending on who you ask so I mean
Take most opinions with a block of salt
His reputation precedes him
Fucking true lmao
He's just a jerk man
Unfortunately outside of his videos he actually got worse ๐
you can speculate about how the time he stubbed his toe when he was 8 years old made him this or that way if you want but it's like a fanfic
most impression of tanner comes from a year ago when he was a raging egotistical asshead
I mean I'm not interested in being nice to someone who is like, so ludicrously narcissistic that it hurts
And he's not as mechanically good as you think either
true
yuh Im aware
he still is one
he always has been one
Oh I'm not defending him
and will forever be one
i never said you have to be nice
didnt he call for something to be done against strawhat lmao
Then stop policing my speech about an asshat
yall are very passionate against this man
Im just saying the least "wow fuck this dude" comment I've heard was that he was a decent player who acted like a butthead
that was fucked
His reputation is indefensible lmfao he acted the same way years ago in Warframe
He'll never change
is there a single darktide youtuber that is simultaneously a good player and a good person
Literally
Oof damn
mr. unc
im out of the loop so he's just a youtuber to me lmfao, I watch like him and E whenever they drop some interesting meta shit
idk who mr unc is.............................
If u check his community posts, he goes into a tantrum and lies about his ban
Unc is just vibes man
he just makes goofy ahh vidyas
ah
yeah he does seem like a pretty narcisstic person though. but then again many people state their opinions as facts or something, even on discord here
well i was more referring to guide makers and ppl like that but fair, fair
should've worded differently
i think tanner did specific actions that made him get banned though so he probably deserved it
The one video I got any information from was the one where he taught how to kite a fleshbag, but god he doesnt stop fucking yapping
It isn't just that he states his opinions as facts
He is almost incapable of admitting he is incorrect, even when presented with infallible evidence to the contrary
So that's been the only one of his I've watched
He'll NEVER change
This is the one I hear from a lot of folks
Ever since Warframe
tl;dr tanner is
- egotistical
- bad at the game and constantly spreads bs as gospel (but decent-ish mechanically)
- mega racist
- mega transphobic
he really is a yapper lmfao, it's a lot of sifting through word vomit just to watch key parts / get the numbers on shit lol
Couldnt keep his toxicity to himself
I thought tanner was a twink lmao
how does transphobia work with that
femboys ๐ค racism & transphobia
very easily
tale as old as time
But not our precious Tanner
Basically he is so super arrogant to the extreme that he is incapable of being wrong
Dorn also has proof of Tanner getting absolutely folded after having to carry him through h40. (very easy if you just coordinate with your team)
Well the first two are just being a shithead, the last two make you a horrible person. Seals my opinion on him ://
self-hatred is very common among all sorts of marginalized groups
this made me laugh out loud
Couldnt be our precious Tanner !!
pornography
1st one: eh, 2nd one: bleh, 3rd and 4th one: ๐คฎ
That is some extreme comedy
Tanner is at least 250lbs.
I shouldve stopped him when i had the chance
There are images.
It's up to Frog and Nade to save the day
I'm getting down to 230 shit I gotta up my weight loss game
That man is rotund.
Dw even at 230 you will outlive both tanner and nicocado avocado.
Maybe Tanner doesn't like Ogryn because they remind him of him?
mr unc is vibes
Is that what I'm hearing?
idk bout nicocado at this point
I watch sequens on twitch couple times
nicocado's been getting his shit together from what I've heard
but ey if I can outlive tanner I'm happy
whuh
two steps ahead
Didn't nicocado lose all the weight?
I'll take 30 if you dont mind
Nicocado has already had significant organ damage from being morbidly obese.
bros are speculating on tanner's measurements
You will absolutely outlive him.
Not really speculating
bet
Glory to the omnissiah
I mean what do I care I'm not gonna shoot anyone down over this
Do you want the image?
The images were peeped
Or do you just want to take my word for it?
Do NOT spread the image even if he publically posted it
why do people here keep tanner pics
no, I believe you, I'd rather not please ^^
I couldnt care less about him atp
we out here getting a salary for tanner hate
I'm sure you could probably tell us given how deep you're taking him
Alright, that's great, I really didn't want to look at him on my birthday.
๐
I wont be cruel because I used to be fat and it took forever to get down to the femboy physique
If that's 3hat he's going for
estrogen helps
Self loathing is a hell of a drug
I used to be fat and I absolutely will be cruel to fat people.
bro what the fuck is happening
you are aware of what's happening in this chat, right?
anyways
Exercise and eating wlel (or less) works the best
It is not hard to just not eat like a fatass.
Those who know
Happy...Birthday?
Mango mango mango
do it for her..
Don't really care tbf
I think u should be niceful
I HATE ELVES
We should all be Beary Nice
Thank you.
i know you dont, the skull emoji said it all
And not beary mean..
is their more pics then the venti i don't know abt

You do know nothing is free, right? For all the evil you do not post, someone has to make up for it.
:)
regardless of the truth I do not want fat pictures on my DMs lmao, no fucking thank you kekw
Typical capitalism brain
If i dont provide someone else will..
Meow will be on at some point, this is guaranteed
Good !! Then dont !!
speedgryn
Morality just called it wants u 2 be niceful..
ive noticed that despite all the apparent acceptance present in many communities it's actually not too easy to push back against blatant negativity
I need some more pics for the collection
Well that's valid, then. Cica and I can at least attest to him being a ham planet.
I dunno man I kinda wanna laugh
Oh for sure
And not every person is deserving of kindness
Eh... idc if someone else will provide what I don't want to.
But you also dont need to be cruel
Both can exist at once
U dont have to be nice to an asshole, or mean either
Some people can be equally deserving of that though
2025 the year of evil maxxing
U do not the asshole
well, I still don't want to like, shoot anyone down if someone is reading and actually at that weight, like. You know, its possible to lose it quite fast once someone actually tries
well, definitely not. tanner isnt really that bad in the grand scheme of things (like, compared to actually evil people).
but indeed cruelty is a sort of outlet for many people. it's something they enjoy because of who they are. they enjoy being cruel.
nicemaxxing gets tiring after a while ngl
Agree on both fronts lamb
cruelmaxxing 2025
Ppl r mean cuz they're bullied irl or arent respected or what have you
And take it out on ppl online
thats were toxic positivity comes in
Punching bags or w/e
they want to take part in a communal bashing
we care not from where it flows so long as it flows
Yah
im going to only eat marlboros and drink modelo and b evil in the year of our Lord 2025
because it makes them feel they're finally part of something and powerful
street fighter 3: third strike villain arc is crazy
Cycle of abuse cat gif goes here
I don't think anyone considers Tanner evil
People just consider him a toxic asshole
Which, he is
everyone know this about human behavior but it happens under their very fingertips without them noticing
nah its just the lack of dopamine from the untreated ADHD .d
I don't understand why cruelty is an outlet for people, but, you're right...
That's not an incorrect statement to make, the dude is as toxic as nuclear waste
Yah it also helps recontextualize their negativity; by instead of making it about hurt ego or pride, they can project it as something less selfish and more righteous, like bashing on a public punching bag
because humans are animals with a very weird brain
i am krilling someone for this
Makes me glad I don't have that kind of brain >.>
Man FUCK peace be at WAR and slaughter MILLIONS
next person I see bein nice gets the fucken
Troo..
Oh yah
yuh a lot of toxic behaviours I see from people here Im sure most of them comes from irl issues and using randoms on the internet as a punching bag
Why is everyone suddenly embracing Buddhist methodology because we bashed tanner for like 2 minutes ๐
hate and anger are normal feelings just like any other ones, some people not knowing what to do with it aim it inwards at themselves, other people aim it outwards at others
But u can just ostracize ppl
can love bloom in a battlefield?
idk ommanipadmehum or somethin
I'm not, I just am bored with bashing people
Just cuz ur they're normal and u feel them doesn't mean they're healthy or u have 2 act on them
Im out here embracing my rainbow body leave me alone
transphobia is an instant ban, if someone is transphobic it literally just takes a msg with evidence someone has been transphobic in the server (this includes the person i believe you are talking about who was banned once someone actually sent us what was going on)
we do still have rules in place tho for dogpilling people, cause its a public games server and not a school playground
dogpill
OK bozo ! Dogpile this noob
im dogpilled
dogpilling
all i saw out of that entire message was dogpill
Dogpiling the mod seems like a terrible idea ๐
Having these feelings is normal. Taking them out on others at the end of the day, is on you. It's the same principle of "It doesn't matter what you say, it's how the other person receives it"
Does that mean I can't use the swingset? ๐ฆ
Go my psionic warriors !! Seal this boo boo bear into the depthz of the Earth !!
i can't english good 
(despite it being my main language, i just suck)
its okay brother we can be dogpilled together
hello jeffrey ๐
Dogpilled .. ouppycel..
jeff got that dog in him
The assail psyker after I take their arms
What in this world did I just read
And how do I unread it
"its not my fault the other person decided to take what i said so personally, after all its how you recieve it"
i can hear it now
2D6 psychic damage
nothing pisses me off than the "you're too sensitive" people, like no you're just a jerk saying mean things and brushing it off as a joke or you dont mean it
Roll it coward
oop
and people still bring it up 
But I'm a wizard
That would mean...
trying to decide if i should make this a bannable offence 
thats not a d6!!
do it
Please

Please
pleaee do it jef
Please
puppycel is such a cute thing though
the puppycel shit ew
Cant handle my ouppyboy swag
you would never pookster
But when you hurt their feelings suddenly it's all "cmon man wtf"
Please stop ๐ญ
canonical wolverine
Rivals makes my head hurt
not being able to take what you give out is the most frustrating shit lmfao
anyways I think you should run Swift certainty
guys im gonna make zealot history and take a shower
I showered today
that will be 5 ration slips for access to the showers
Then cleaned the bathroom fan
Im about to shower
And got freshly covered in dust
I took one this morning lol
Man wtf did i just read
You missed the party, bandit
Dustmaxxing under my fan like
I swept mopped and scrubbed down my counters bathtub toilet and i gotta say, yall should try it
mood boosted in 1-2 hours
Scrubbing down the bathroom stuffs is divine
You feel like a king
Everything so shiny
As a functional member of Society with a job
Am I not allowed to play Zealot?
It feels that way
Cleanliness is next to godliness, pilgrims
define functional member of society
I have a job and I get yelled at everytime I play zealot so
Pretty sure that's illegal
as long as you make money, probably
Good hygiene, good relationships, both parents still alive, no trauma, good income
i guess im not a functional member of society then fuck
Hey i said this b4
tfw having trauma makes you less functional member of society by default
You were fine until that last one... the 2nd one put u on thin ice
#psyker-class basically
I dont have all of this xd
today i found out im dysfunctional
Depends on how hard it hits
Didn't mean it like that, just knew it would invoke funny reaction.
i miss on the no trauma and good relationships part
trauma dumping hours in zealot chat
trauma is the dump stat
It's New Years
Okay that was good lmao
few weeks back I found out what having a mental breakdown feels like
New year new me! im gonna start going to the gym and totally still be going at the end of the year!
Holidays are valid trauma dumping hours
Best team comp btw
Whatโs worse is that you can get locked into the trauma maxing build when you are starting out and canโt reset it instantly
Pals
WINDOWS + SHIFT + S
Oh wait console
F
Godspeed friend
Did you know by February 80% of New Years Resolutions will have failed
frfr oh yea you right
It takes a long grind just to start converting into the meta and most people wonโt even make it that far
its almost like if you want to change you should do it when you feel ready and not for some silly tradition
No, no
I'm on a 4070Ti
I'm just also using a PC on a TV console setup so my Keyboard is 5.7 kilometres away once I'm in game
I am the apex heretic
mild injury
Just A Flesh Wound
A flesh wound
DAMMIT
GOTCHA
just walk it off
why is it always 2hp and not 1 hp
ive never seen 1 hp its always 2
crushers fear odd numbers
Because 1HP for you and 1HP for Big E
because 1 is an odd number
You walk with Himโข
Dummy
There's one set of footprints because you got barreled off the edge and He had to carry your broken ass home
Do you have any med stimms, i have a headache
This is how I felt when creating my Zealot ngl
wait fr? cause I also have a headache rn >.<'
space marine 2 made me appreciate playing zealot so much more
No itโs a meme
Zealot was my first forray into playing a frontliner
what a horrible experience that was the pve of that game
Ah
I played SM2 before Darktide
And now I literally have no motivation to play SM2 ever again
yep
This but edited to a darktide zealot
When I started to get better I realized how much power I really had in turning a pug match
i feel more "a space marine" playing this game than that
And it cemented zealot as my favorite
i know its impossible with where VR is at currently, but i wanna be able to do what that knight does
so bad
Also the melee combat is just peak
Zealot is weirdly good at this
the grind is absolutely horrible
Based
Like i can't clutch for shit on Ogryn
sm2 really is just a worse darktide
Haven't played since they changed the combat but SM2 is way less engaging than DT
Having a second chance on cooldown rather than once per mission is massive
it's worse everything
You dont realize how much Until Death kicks in until you dont have it
SM2 got me back into tide, and boy everything changed so much lmfao
I don't even mean second chances
i felt more powerful playing gears of war
Like doing a pistol execution for one armor tab almost always made you lose all of your armor as trash mobs instantly chunked it while you were animation-locked
Another zoinked out ferret
Like Zealot is just generally very good at operating as last man
Better than any other class I'd say
gun strikes not having iframes is insane
Good mobility, best stam regen, good weapon choice
I think specific vet builds are better at clutching
That's when you get 5 crusher overheads in a run
Mainly weapon spec
I found Crusher lent itself very well to that since it can deal with a lot of enemy types
that's why i always run loner and let my teammates die
makes me feel good
when she gun on your strike till you i-frame
Double donk "wheres my second chance"
Mainly VoC but WS for sure helps
"Oh, that's right... I didn't take it..."
the true solo experience fatshark promised
made a martyrdom chainaxe build with immo nades for the penance
what do i spend the last 2 points on
Juggling quickly becomes mandatory when clutching
he wouldn't be worse than ogryn he still has survivalist
i was told chainaxe didnt need duelist
You might be right. I think vet may have a higher skill ceiling but we have a lower skill floor
maybe backstab cdr?
Problem is not a lot of vets hit that ceiling
And a lot of zealots remain on the floor
I find Ogryn to generally be the second best personally
or give up on good balance to take second wind
Nade spam, a massive ammo economy buff for your team, and aggro drop stealth isnโt the worst for havoc
Infinite ammonades for vet is definitely massive
Because it's so much CC
Just deletes weakened monstros if krak
Mk4 chain axe doesnโt need duelist
Aggro drop can get your team in a whole lot of trouble tbh
Im not 100% confident on mk12
Not really
I run coles build ever since I found out about mercy killer knife
Everyone is expecting to be shot at
But I use smokes
my brain is still waking up ;-;
i very rarely see decent vets, even on high difficulties they're all like level 20 and quit on the first down lol, my MM is cooked
If your team has psyker/shieldgryn stuff
im using mk4
It's mainly the mid/bad randos that get more screwed by it right?
Don't really know why Ogryn gets a lot of hate in Havoc comps
Had it confirmed by a playtester the other day that Ogryn features at least 1x in the most successful 40 comp
Drama redditors and youtube micro celebs
im just gonna get backstab cdr then
Like before Havoc patch it was also confirmed by FS that the most common Auric Mael completion was 4x Ogryn
Lmao
The 2 nodes being moved turning people into crybabies like it made ogryn unplayable
Id seen a high level stealth vet absolutely tearing shit up with shovel and recon once. He was basically a better zealot than the zealot in his match lol
Then havoc, ogryn is the class that gets punished the most if they and their team comp sucks
Itโs very immediate and visual
Tried to explain to my buddy that it wasnt a nerf but whoever he watches on Youtube prolly said it was game ending so he just put the class down forever
like... it literally did nothing good or bad for my melee builds
it's just that it's overall not a very fun class that has close to 0 build variety, esp on havoc where he requires the most amount of skill to play efficiently
its funny bc the odd vet I do see that's like level 300+ they're always running around like zealots 
playing ogryn for 1 game makes me want to close darktide
But you can have shit brauto scrierโs on psyker and get carried through a 25
He's also a gunlugger enjoyer so I can kinda see where he's coming from as they get pushed more towards heavy hitter
But still
Build variety i agree on, but every class is like that in havoc
Sounds like a mercy killer vet
I mean I have only passed Havoc 40 on Ogryn
But ogryn has that problem in auric damn
yeah, but others give you a lot more coverage with their skills whereas ogryn only gets anti shooter shield
You have shield and maybe karsolas in havoc 40
and the rest is just your skill at playing the game
i always get happy seeing an ogryn queue up in the striketeam
No shield is suicide on some maps
AoE taunt turns off everything for your team nearby and it staggers
Shield is good just because taunt on block
shield is generally good

And with hh itโs awesome
taunt on block makes it great
25% base damage (sadly taunt on block doesnโt get this boost)
I use shield tauntgryn and I have forced my team through several areas with that build
Shield h2 has infinite cleave
Iโm going to lick you
2025 ogryn rework fatshark???
wait... why would you expect taunt on block to get that boost?
Donโt really understand fnp
Orgyn already has a TON of regen
Cause the extension just says taunted enemies
gungryn just ticks my brain just right
FNP most common Ogryn keystone in Havoc just because they ramped damage so hard
Itโs the same type of debuff
Ah
left click
Yeah I can see that
loyal protector is the ult
FNP needs some compensation but i hate ogryns that act like it didnโt need to be fixed
Bleh
I got netted I'm so pissed
Cringed
i dont see how this can be misinterpreted..............
Do reapers on havoc 40 not care for relic?
"spicy" lol
Ur so pretty
yeah idk it's not like we're just saying that ogryn le bad
Chainaxe still takes duelist. It's 1 point
There are no Reapers in Havoc 40
people want ogryn to be a fun class and not just
153k damage psyker pogeth
forced to take hh
My dude
wow... dat poodle is beautiful!
Ogryn is a ton of fun though
Happened to me this match
I've played Ogryn for maybe 210 hours now
Yea ogryn needs more options
And I'm still having a blast
a lot of people can't get a feel for the slower feel of the oggy
Not direct buffs tbh
Trapper caught me mid air dodge
Like why do you think it needs that much though
also damn I really just got hit with the silent poxburster full force
Yeah tree and weapon options are really slim for pals right now
cause his talents are incredibly boring and restricting
Its really just they need to make it less dependent on Heavy attacks and make more weapons viable
I personally enjoy the fact that Ogryn is overall quite simplistic
somehow more boring than zealot keystones
Tbh if they made cleavers actually cleave that'd be a big step
wdym? It's not like zealot has low hp many wounds, crit daddy, and dodg buff keyst- oh wait...
oh yeah and if they'd drop the crit bullshit
ogryn literally has what
2% base? and gets crit blessings
I feel like taking the simplicity away from Ogryn would strip out a lot of what makes the class nice basic fun
Fair point, but currently he just feels like a cheaper class
funnily enough while being the only one that has a completely unique weapon selection
Oggy can pull off things that some classes can't... but... they are so simple that it is a major turn off to alot of players
i dont have any complaints about the ranged weps tho
3 easy steps
Ungimp his movement
Make talents less heavy attack dependent
Make other weapons viable so more options exist
Would be just fine
Yeah but he has what, 3 viable weapons in that whole selection?
make melee hits apply 1 stack of bleed pe- oh wait... that's vet's thing...
for me ogryn just.. doesn't feel good to play
too big
too doofy
nothing feels like it has the same oomph as other class weapons
The rest are just, quite poor
2 of which being pick marks lmao
Everything outside of Grenadier Gauntlet is Havoc 40 viable
For ranged
Yeah excatly. I'm surprised they haven't been nerfed yet
GG desperately needs some love, desperately.
you cant bring other stuff to pick levels either
Agreed
no it needs a revert to the silly nerfs
and a public apology from obese tuna
to the 3 people who still used it
When I got the game GG was already cooked
the concept used to work
So idk what they did
and then fatshark decided one day
it shouldn't
you can't have your ranged/melee hybrid weapon be competent at melee
so we made it shit at melee
but we forgot
its also shit at being a gun
oopsie
there you go GG lore
But yeah like on the whole
I feel like a lot of people make suggestions that would also eat away at Ogryns tank status
And that worries me for everyone who already enjoys the class
what suggestion takes away that exactly?
could you be a tad more specific on that one
Some people a while ago were suggesting bringing Ogryn more in line with the general nature of other classes
Like someone said unfuck movement and reduce health pool as compensation
Which is just a dumb idea
Ogryn just shouldn't have fucked movement why does there need to be a tradeoff

ogryn needs unfucked movement but you can't make them zealot levels of zoom either
disabler immunity 
Fix vault
cause you're knocking them around everywhere
Make better dodge somewhat
Or make ogryn weapons less dodge punishing
Either way works
Sprint can stay as is
ogryn probably should but Idk if thats too much babying
Base chaff trample would be nice
welllllllllllll
at the very least trampled chaff should not trap your movement as ogy
It does feel very weird when an Ogryn gets body blocked by a poxwalker

Which I have had happen
I have 1 single clip of where I tried to back dodge in a fight
And I couldn't
yeah that's annoying on any class tbh
Because of 1 single poxwalker
sometimes you accidentally step on a manhole
then you're covered in poxwalkers that spawn from it and cant move
An ogryn should shove things over if he dodges into them methinks
I'm all for a litany of Ogryn buffs tbh
or block your path but not count as a ''wall'' so you get the good old mutie+flamer
I can already beat Havoc 40 competently on it
Zealot buffz,,
Talent tree rework pls ,,
@hard nexus spekaing of which tintin clutched last night
I guess thats what fat fish will do this year
A havoc match
hows it gonna even compete with plasma on veteran
But it's the lore inaccurate SM2 Melta
why not give it to zealot

there is no lore accurate it depends on whoever is writing the stuff or what gw considers lore accurate at the time lol
if they went the sm2 way it would be an uhhh
a better double barrel? lol
I mean the general consensus across most material on Melta, would not be the SM2 melta
@copper hawk are you free?
Do you guys think theyโll increase the level cap like they did in vermintide?
Y wutz up ?
next thing i should ask you is about female custodes but okeyyy
The DB is already practically the SM2 melta except it can hit further than breathing distance
on vet that is
Tintin needs one more for havac and I need a sub :3
I don't see what relevance that would have tbh
more dmg less ammo here you go
well, comparing to db
actual dmg
30 i believe
they suck at balancing them
well balance is the whole spice of them
Making Melta more of the focused blast idea would be pretty cool
that would be volkite
Should be ez pz
Not on the volkite level
More just "blow a very large hole in this specific crusher"


