#zealot-class
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grants movement speed after taking damage and prevents stuns
The heck is wrong with that talent?
That’s a good thing isn’t it?
lets you walk through basically anything at the price of your toughness/health
Generally yes, but some people might argue that having a perk be almost completely necessary to take isn’t great design
It isn't completely necessary, just really, really good
Almost completely necessary
Given how the average players are not Dorn-tier, I’d consider it essential
only thing wrong is that is mandatory for all builds except ones that use the fastest melee weapons, other than that op talent, bad design around it
Do forgive me for saying this but as someone who only intends to do the zealot penances than never touch zealot again think I’ll need thy wrath be swift
Level 500 zealot
Yes
xd
Why? zealot is fun
Fastest melee that isn't made of glass
i'm a vet main at the end of the day
yeah, you need it anyway unless you're going to play knife
If you’re inexperienced with playing zealot in a zippy way, you’re probably going to take a few hits here and there going for the loner penance…hell even most experienced players will inevitably get slapped whether it’s due to latency or complacency
I'm just never doing that
If you get staggered and killed trying to get behind enemies you’ll look silly, so TWBS is a nice safety net
psword user speaking...
Hello carpets
Shout crutch….
Also infinite ammo shotgun crutch...
ah man. if only the weapon custom mod changed gore effects. changing the crusher to a big axe is kinda hype
Start rashading today 
Never again
Im not getting back on Meth
Did u see the clip I sent last night of 1v3 rager
Power sword vs Rashad

what do you guys run on shock maul?
skullcrusher high voltage?
Power sword is so busted lol
bro you know i'm a vet main through and through
skullcrusher hammerblow
even those i'm better off as a zealot
But it’s a guilty pleasure
Thanks
Lemme show u the difference between power sword and Rashad’s elite kill efficiency
Same 1v3 Dreg rager no hit

2 seconds vs
6
lmao
does it not stagger well enough without hammerblow?
Yeah looks balanced to be
rager stagger bp
In any case I just realized I haven't done crusher yet, so I'll give it a go later
Falter gives the same rager stagger without needing to stack
Hammerblow doesn’t send it over to bodyshot stagger iirc
@sullen forge falter & grievous wounds’ stagger breakpoints when
Is crusher skullcrusher + slaughterer, or is there a better setup?
Normally just that
Thanks
stealthoids will never understand the slot system
and why stealthing because you suck makes you a cunt
what is a slot system
oh so enemies are only allowed to attack us from certain directions?
i worded that poorly
And I believe there is a maximum number of enemies that can attack at a time.
oh
If an enemy is in your slots and you hit stealth, all of those enemies are no longer in your slots and attack your team
This is why all stealth users are active hindrances 99% of the time
And why coherency regen only works with stealth
so its like 12 slots and a enemy can enter/attack a slot?
so we can hold about 12 enemies at once
and if you go into stealth since you dont have any more slots all 12 enemies will lock on to another player
?
is slots and aggro the same thing
like from what im getting only up to 12 enemies can attack you at once
but can more than 12 target you
aggro is threat levels
whoops
That’s also not true
it was an example
i guess i took the clock metaphor too seriously
the number isnt 12
Plus ranged enemies always shoot people
ah fair enough
slots is where enemies will lock into melee with you
I FUCKING HATE OLD PEOPLE
An open slot can be closed by a crusher mid attack, instantly killing a player
the rest of the enemies swarm around the slots but won't attack
This is why stealth is hated
This is rude
I don't care and I didn't ask.
i think i get it
@vague depot jsats old video from vermintide give a better visual explaination on how it works, since its very similar there
I have a clip
ooh ok thanks
just watch the start of it cuz it goes on for 40 minutes
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Sliding babbbyyy
This also happens when you stealth 
same shit since Vermintide 1
wait why did the mauler rush you
@paper harness
so im gonna assume that a living players slot has higher priority than a downed player slot?
yes
ahh alright
the bolter shot into the horde agro it
So it might be my terrible unleveled roll, but is crusher not good against carapace?
it isnt amazing into carapace but its better than most weapons when built properly
so yes its definitely cuz its unleveled
think it goes something like special h1 l1 pa h1
should I just use the charged attack in groups then go wild with the sweeps, charged h1 for big guys?
@paper harness switching marks crashed me 😭
it's okay and you send down crushers to the floor
FUCK burgles
my hatred knows no bounds
Caved and decided to play achlys gungryn for the event
and I do not regret it
can you believe it guys
RAAAAA I FUCKING HATE CHRISTMAS
cool it grinch
@paper harness anoint in blood?
how would I shift my points? @paper harness
dont quote me on this but i think it goes something like
special H1, l2 pa H1 for single target
pa H2 spam/pa l2 h1 loop horde clear
sustained assault?
crusher is a pretty freestyle weapon though
yea pretty much
it's so peak when you get used to it
Gotta pick the specific move that would work best for your current situation.
Not great but is serviceable
that's why you have 3 other idiots with you plus a gun to them
Real talk though. I actually love Christmas, but it's overmonetization drives me up the fucking wall to the point that I can't enjoy the holiday anymore.
I don't have to deal w/ any of that
I only have to deal with seizures every time I walk out my doors

rich people and their decorations
I love Christmas only for the fact that it's a day off
is black friday after thanksgiving or christmas
thanksgiving
oh ok
new years is after christmas
not a big fan of christmas

boxing day is after christmas
new years was really fun i remember when my friend threw a lit firecracker at me
there was an incident in my old neighborhood
where some kid threw a firecracker into a septic tank
I used 2 throw axes
And knives
I did archery too when i was in hs
My dad would throw a wood splitting axe and had it down so it'd land in the oak round
Before we moved from the scary north in winter of sophmore year my dad taught me to do it
only cool thing I did as a kid was build a bolt action
On the topic of fire crackers i once had one blow up in my hand lmfao
look at deadeye here
Im srs
did you spend 10 seconds lighting it or something
Did u put the memory lua thing in
If u touched grass u would knowe,,
yea
I know you are dumb dumb
NOOB
I separated the fire cracker from the like thing
That u light that is connected to the whole thing
It was just one singular fire cracker
oh
the chain ones light fast
so yea
that's what happened
What are ur specs
I might be able to help optimize it for u
2080
rtx
32 ram
good question
Why would you ever do that lmao
I was tinkering with lowering GPU load
idk im now running the game at decent high settings at 1080p thanks to 3.0
i mean back when custom resolutions worked lowering the res helped my fps a lot
and this is not my native res so
I haven’t tried FSR3.1 after the newest update yet, still running the DLSS frame gen mod
no dlss for me on a 1080
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz 3.70 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 (DirectX 12.1, 7987MB) Driver version: 56094 Hardware Accelerated GPU scheduler: false
its been strict performance gains since launch for me tbh
no idea what these numbers mean tbh
I got it issued from the company
free PC good enough to run darktide was good enough for me
Did u update Nvidia graphics drivers
good question
have an update to download
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I wish it would just fucking kick you out if shit like this happens
its so fucking annoying
pov
free mats
Free 20 diamantine 
free dockets!
fr tho why does the loading take so long
why do they force the mission briefing
2 lvl 25 Psykers
This auric? Or regular damnation
Could be a setting thing
I load faster than frog
I heard frog has a good pc
I mean the mission briefing that they require you to sit thorugh
Imma use a ds4 in a duo with tintin

No health bars or spidey sense
Just cheating with weapon choices
We should do one with ds4s
You should really read the forums
no
Spidey sense ain’t cheating 
i shouldnt
Some other worldly level of insanity
can female rejects have bigger tatas????
I am aware
40k game
bolter is actually strong
surprised face
What are ur graphics settings
I no longer require dukane
Oh also
low everything
Get rid of that customization mod
oh...
Bolter too strong anyway lmao
That mod tanks performance literally all the time
man
good 
I told you this tintin
okay
Bro kinda half cooked and then bleh
The highest difficulty should be hard
Foreign concept
Imma go trivialise it with a unoptimal ds4
Noob
people comparing a weapon that good at a lot of things at the cost of multiple noticable drawbacks
Riposte
to a weapon that is the best at nearly everything with only 1 minor drawback that is hardly even one at all
Can I drop riposte on the ds5 for something else if i run piety/scourge
No right ? Not enough critting ?
Wahoo
If right side piety sure
NOOOO
I like the hentai frame
i prefer stalwart/good balance so i run riposte
Dorn hate me
WHAT
At this point
Meeee
this dorn guy causes me mental anguish
I have a mild dislike of burgles
Where
unironically uncanny/riposte stalwart piety ds5 is probably what ill be using as my general build structure
for havoc
ogryn class
Of course
IKR
Yeah
we're laughing so hard rn in vc
Ds4 might become valid
Ew
the framerates is all worth it tho
mobile done migrated my message to a different server
it gets worse and worse every update
accidentally sent gooner stuff to DT server...
uh oh!
I can send u my mod list and you can add ur spider sense & health bar stuff in there
i would never
It’s pure QoL
sure sure
I can’t send you my mod list
I’ll send when I’m home
i fucking love when my teammate decides to trigger each and every DH in the map

idk if my modlist is trimmed enough yet
It’s me

I can also send my mod settings for my mods
I kill them all
dmf
AlternateGrenadeIcons
animation_events
camera_freeflight
ChatBlock
combo_tracker
commodores_vestures_improved
creature_spawner
custom_hud
debuff_indicator
ENLocalizationFIXAIO
ForTheEmperor
FoundYa
GoToMastery
guarantee_ability_activation
guarantee_special_action
guarantee_weapon_swap
Healthbars
immersive_evasion
InspectFromSocial
kill_tracker
LoadoutMonitor
LoadoutNames
ManyMoreTry
more_characters_and_loadouts
Multibind
name_it
NumericUI
ovenproof_scoreboard_plugin
PanicStimm
PingMonitor
Power_DI
Ration Pack
RecolorBossHealthBars
reveal_blessings
scoreboard
ScoreboardExplosive
show_crit_chance
ShowMeRealWeaponStats
show_remaining_dodges
Spidey Sense
StimmsPickupIcon
true_level
master_item_community_patch
WhatTheLocalization
hybrid_sprint
I got that pristine cyan color for dodge bar
wtf
Nyaaahahaha
no uhhh, i think they just like getting their soul succed
wdym wtf
Wait a second
they keep dying to each one
what is panicstimm
probably mod to macro activating stim
U have like
you can auto stimm after holding a button for so long
3x as many mods as I use
oh thats real nice
1:'dmf'
2:'psych_ward'
3:'AlternateGrenadeIcons'
4:'BornReady'
5:'BuffHUDImprovements'
6:'buy_until_rating'
7:'character_cosmetics_view_improved'
8:'ChatBlock'
9:'CleanForceBlocking'
10:'CollectibleFinder'
11:'combo_tracker'
12:'commodores_vestures_improved'
13:'ConstantFov'
14:'CorrectMissionVotingInfo'
15:'creature_spawner'
16:'crosshair_remap'
17:'custom_hud'
18:'debuff_indicator'
19:'Decode_Helper'
20:'DefaultToHighestBlessingTier'
21:'DisableScreenEffects'
22:'Disconnect'
23:'EmpowerUntilLimit'
24:'ENLocalizationFIXAIO'
25:'ForTheElites'
26:'FoundYa'
27:'FullAuto'
28:'Hardtide'
29:'Healthbars'
30:'heretical_idol_marker'
31:'hub_hotkey_menus'
32:'InspectFromSocial'
33:'Inventory2D'
34:'InventoryInspect'
35:'InventoryStats'
36:'ItemSorting'
37:'i_wanna_see'
38:'keep_dodging'
39:'KillfeedImprovements'
40:'LoadoutNames'
41:'ManyMoreTry'
42:'material_markers'
43:'modular_menu_buttons'
44:'more_characters_and_loadouts'
45:'MultiBind'
46:'MyFavorites'
47:'guarantee_ability_activation'
48:'guarantee_weapon_swap'
49:'guarantee_special_action'
50:'name_it'
51:'NoNews'
52:'NumericUI'
53:'OpenPlayerProfile'
54:'PingMonitor'
55:'Power_DI'
56:'Ration Pack'
57:'RecolorBossHealthBars'
58:'Reconnect'
59:'RememberServerLocation'
60:'ScanHelper'
61:'ShowMeRealWeaponStats'
62:'show_crit_chance'
63:'sorted_mission_grid'
64:'Spidey Sense'
65:'StimmsPickupIcon'
66:'ToggleInteract'
67:'train_timer'
68:'Tree_Helper'
69:'true_level'
70:'volleyfiretimer'
71:'WeaponFilter'
72:'weapon_cosmetics_view_improved'
73:'weapon_fov'
74:'WhatTheLocalization'
75:'who_are_you'
76:'ZipIt'
plus 30 more i use for debugging
@south grove #veteran-class message what I use
whats for the elites

I use a bunch other for slight visual changes
there are arch heretics among them
Do u rly need them tho
and hybrid sprint to stop killing my left pinky
Psych ward
they make zero difference I think
swap a few icons
That’s kinda meh
make hadron access in inventory
I have togglebots but not using that with tintin
what build for today
taxe 2
ds5
or evi 15
Ds5
taxe
evi15
My stalwart ds5 build
no
i will use mine (theyre probably identical)
I started usin stalwart and now everyone uses it
there are hidden grubs amongst us
I claim it ..
Ds5? Not many people use that
Ur all my grubs..
this is what i use with ds5
insane dodges
its so fun
Lmfao yep
its not ds4 levels of busted
just opened up nexus and i see an autovault mod
but my god
people are sleeping on it
this looks kinda fire
I think im gonna try book ds5 tho
havoc prep underway it seems
why book over fotf
Wrong I used it before you ever even mentioned it
dorn did it 2 weeks ago
I really like the ds5 overheads but was constantly told to stick with ds4
Even ds2 I like its light spam
Around the time I joined
He stole it off me
Promise
cuz ds4 is just stupidly overpowered
ds5 isnt that but it is better in other areas
its horde clear combo is better in my experience, and its survivability is even better
it doesnt have the same stupid single hit potential ds4 has but you dont need that for most of the time cuz youre able to hit most of the same one shots
sold my ds
making one again
youre gonna regret that
youre really gonna regret that
I have broken the twbs cycle
@paper harness I have one already
Nop
dorn agrees
yeah.....
youll change your mind 
Thief
changed cara to flak
Nop i suggested that build the first time I talked here
Thief
Just had to do Archivum final at 2 HP max Corruption
Maybe you’re my grub
Chord swings so fast i never found a use for it
hmmm so full of meds
oh you think its for melee?
And w wrath u get punishment up rlly fast

I just dove them
What's your opinion on ds2 thenM
This isnt me capping lazorr style
I think I got told to kms bc I had no corruption resist on a QP game
Erm just dive them lul
you are in for the biggest reality check

I never had an issue w them stunning me
Lmao
Ive been running without twbs for two months now on my hs buuld
I made a curios for corruption resist but didn't equip it because it was QP
I never had said reality check
loaded in with one wound left because 2 grims
Mby im crazy but i am DEAD serious
you aint built for these qp streets
3 things irritate me cuz of no twbs
Fighting chaos spawns
Hounds pushing you for no fucking reason
And reapers
That's it
the ogryns and the shroud zealots always are the ones ngl
it's either kms or slurs
I have a shit ton of toughness so gunners dont bother me much
Reapers are #1 annoying candidate for a no-TWBS existence
And gunner resis on all my trinkets
I know u run all stamina or some shit
That sounded mean but i mean it bluntly
My brain js fried
Work is mindless
I suddenly remembered this
Anygloops
flak gunkers
Gunner resistance and tness
Sometimes I try to dodge slide into reapers on vet and remember that's not something you can easily do
I think i have 172 tness
They straight up arent a problem
Gunners anyways
Oh, ragers too sometimes
@paper harness my voice isn't... desirable
But for whatever reason they dont bug me either
shotgunner resistance when
1 sec ill grab a clip
don't think I've died to shotgunner from pure damage before
it's always the stun
just take TWBS
shotgunners are already jokes for everything except psykers who miss a dodge
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did you know they have only 2 hitmass currently
a groaner has 1 and a poxwalker has 1.5
yeah was meeming
i find all ranged enimies easy to deal with now
fotf
they stop to pull out their melee or panic
rip
dw about it
Tox bomber resistance when but UNIRONICALLY
Mby u r noob cole
A tox bomber who positions himself cheekily is a huge pain in the ass
lol
How am i haz no problem ,, when u haz problem,, w Gloopers , , , Riddle me that , Snoyman ,, nyaa
no im being serious
you will treat ranged units as actual serious threats
Some of these nurgle infestation modifiers are harder than maelstroms
like silo cluster with the stairs going down
into the huge cluster
it spawns as much bosses as a normal monsterous specials maelstrom but theyre all non weakened and theyre all the annoying one
lol
lmao even
Just reapers for me
They push u and it drives me nurs
Nuts*
I face tank gunners
ok but thats in normal and auric
stop being freaky
3 or more is challenging
Diving helps or ill just go around them/shoot them to suppress
Im 100% srs ive never noticed an issue w gunners on my twbs builds
https://open.spotify.com/track/6dbJcoriPOeHBWVl3yAO9C?si=27e3f7872de94533 how can you call it a christmas playlist without the best christmas song ever
I play defensively so maybe this is why
yeah but youre still talking about normal and auric missions, im not
Is a devils claw martyrdom setup any good or would it be best with the other trees?
i only have issues with gunners when you play with shitheads that only shoot at things that are actively aggroed on them
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wrong
not really worth it
just go piety or IJ+crit cdr
@paper harness you said they fixed door glitch
@rocky nacelle https://open.spotify.com/prerelease/7hi9UyzBwddnSCMRgJucxL?si=c9bff06390d24c25 this album and darktide when
Thanks, not a fan of IJ because I'm bad at keeping track of stacks but I didn't realize it was good with crit
Not for the weak of jorts
I mean it has finesse, sure, but otherwise
hi meow
if youre keeping track of stacks, youre doing it wrong tbh
IJ has the dodge talent which gives you 3 stacks upon each dodged attack, which makes you always at 10-15 stacks in a real situation without thinking
Cant stop the unstoppable force
🗣️
so its just free 10+ atk speed and damage and some extra unlisted dodge buffs at all times
Mog those fraud macro users
h1 sucks mk3 sucks for horde clear blah blah blah - u
it does suck
its only good for stagger and build scourge stacks
Yeah, I just kind of ignore the talent and hope it's working
didnt know denzel was dropping a new album
will peep
its genuinely one of the most "i dont think about it and it just works on everything" things in the game
My issue with IJ is not an issue with it being hard to use or inconvenient, it is purely a problem with my brain not liking how it feels
gaming?
weshould
we shouldbuff
we should buff mk3 evis
buff mk3 evis?
make it produce smite when you charge the heavies
go ahead. buff it. 
if i was using basically any other weapon than the mk3 evis there i wouldve done like 700-800k damage
yeah I'm thinking adding about 2 damage to L1 would sort it out
easily
unironically that would meet a BP lmfao
Give it a flamer under barrel
mk3 moveset is just too fun 😔
also unarmored and flak damage should be the same on the mk3
the fact that u deal MORE DAMAGE
to flak
compared to unarmored
is stupid
I should really use IJ, just my dumb brain hates it
thats not that strange
nothing better than a h1 to push attack combo to nuke a rager
epic balancing brought to you by me making shit up
some weps just do better against armor
armor should be, in nearly ALL circumstances, a decrease to damage
because there is still flesh under the armor
video james
For IJ, what happens if I attack again with fewer stacks? Does it maintain the highest stack or refresh?
i think mk3 should deal same to unarmored and flak because its got the ravage tooltip thing
flesh and armor with ease
Nah
youll change your mind when you see how much better dodges you have when you use a lower mobility weapon like evis, chaxe, thammer, crusher, etc
It’s not the only weapon with that kind of trait
aquinoa will settle this
what do you mean?
with their ultimate decree
yo this axe I hit your naked torso with? SHIT DAMAGE
but now that you've got 15 bulletproof vests on and a steel curiass? yeah brother now you're getting chopped in half
EPIC SUPER EPIC #physics #logic
I'm using crusher now, but with martyrdom
I think all axes have the same trait of having higher flak ADM than unarmored
maintains the current stack count, and then when the current runs out, you get the higher stack count
I do run IJ with heavy sword
nvm hes wrong
IJ gives unlisted dodge buffs
distance, speed, regen rate
that doesnt make it not stupid 
per stack
Oh, awesome
I need to break out my IJ build again
I don’t think it’s necessarily a big concern
Rashad heavies doing lower maniac damage with heavies than lights 
remove the 4 target dmg cap 
You build stacks
Once the stacks activate you get the buff
During the buff other attacks will stack
Once the buff ends the stacks activate
Rinse and repeat
Got patched
yea ik but it was like, a 2 year problem still lmao
I think evicerator needs to have a good single target moveset outside of rev H1, and needs to be actually good at horde clear
Oh, so you can't lose stacks for the 6 seconds your buff is up?
also rashad is still otherwise overpowered af but whatever
Nah, heavy is better for more reliable mutant 2 tap
For ragers tho u spam PA + light
Mainly PA
damage caps removed, h1 needs better damage, and damage distribution, h2 needs to be faster and deal significantly more damage and chain into L4
also better carapace ADMs
around the board
Also more damage/tick in rip, instead of banking damage on last tick
L1 and L4 shouldn’t deal less carapace damage than L2 and L3
They rly gotta stop with this “bank 80% damage on the finishing tick” thing for chain weapons
It’s so cringe
i think that the mk3 should be made unique and saw faster than other chain weapons
I think chain weapons in general need to saw things faster
Getting stuck in a 2s sawing animation vs enemies u actually want to saw is literal death sentence in a mixed horde
Reminds me of fallout logic
Is there a list somewhere of which weapons work well with which of the bottom trees? Because I got nothing.
so real
fallout be like "hey brother you thought I was gonna shoot you but actually I have a fuckin random psycho that just follows me around and domes people for me"
basically every weapon works with IJ
most weapons with a finesse or crit stat work with piety
any weapon that doesnt work with piety is likely better with marty
The sly reference to Boone
mysterious stranger our beloved
Or that
yeah and Boone lmao
Boone was the god of jump scares
Here's comes Veronica in a fancy dress and Powerfist!
They rly should change combat axes’ base cleave values and just reduce BM’s target cap
4 is way too much, needs to be 2
And buff combat axes’ base cleave so they actually hit more than 1 guy per swing and can be used without BM (also buff cleave distribution a little, doesn’t need to be great but it needs to not drop to 27 damage on 3rd target)
I'll just keep my odd guessing going, then. Was going to do martyr crusher but I'll swap to IJ.
Lady Misfortune too
If you activate 15 stacks you keep those for 6 seconds
During those 6 seconds you'll be building stacks starting from 0 on the background
So throwing yourself into a fight and constantly feeding stacks is the best way to use it
You could be minding your own business and out of nowhere random zoomed in kill cam of a ant boone shot 700 yards out just plays
i personally dont like marty in general so im not great for advice/reccs with it lmao
I like it with quick weapons because then I can be double quick
but I guess IJ has that too
I can stack the buffs higher, but probably not when playing harder content
i was in the same boat as you like a day or 2 ago about lj being too complicated for my monkey brain but i tried a few games and guess what, it literally always stacks as long as you play correctly and i deleted things with hammer on damnation
someone here said its just free buffs for playing the game right and it's a 100% accurate discription
giving BM an actually reasonable cleave distribution would go a long way too
I like the idea of carrying first target damage to more enemies but it should not be more than 2
like hit 4 targets is kinda fine but it shouldn't be killing more than 2 dudes a swing, yeah
I guess IJ is just a safer martyrdom, in a way?
martyrdom is incredibly safe
Because if BM was 2, it would only change the horde clear aspect of axe
It wouldn’t rly change how it works vs maulers or ragers
yea, I could see that
Cuz u still only hit >1 of them when BM works (gets the kill)
im pretty sure this group im with in a casual heresy are either just really really slow
or notice how fast i was going and just are lagging behind out of spite
and watching me just solo the mission with no issues
But BM horde clear is just nuts
It's more freedom Martyrdom
What do you mean by that?
yea rashad is el silly
Combat axe should not be this “I do everything really fucking well” weapon
BM should not be this “4x horde clear efficiency yay” blessing
Do you just mean in terms of curios?
tbh keep it and buff the other weapons too
go wild
Less commitment to wounds yeah
Nah
I think BM needs to get nerfed while many other weapons can use small tuneups
other weapons are already very strong
yeah, but you lose some hp/toughness but gain more attack speed, damage, toughness damage reduction
i mean this is the same game where a tiny knife beats all the iconic weapons so yeah...
they went wild and buffed a lot of weapons, and this is what we ended up with
I don’t mean giving other weapons more damage
What else r u talkin about
Havocs ?
Yup
That's one of the tradeoffs
yeah
Is there an oops all gunners modifier ?
Each Order Level will incrementally increase in difficulty, with increasing negative modifiers and varying mutators
Something something Assault
Give chainsword 5 more stagger on heavy attacks and it’d be so much better vs elites outside of zealot
Negative modifier im guessing like
You guys think they can clutch?
The ones from chaos wastes
I got netted off into a death ledge
i bet fumbles will do as their name says
Enemies*
Not sure about that
that would be a mutator
Psycho
It’s over
2 Beasts as well
watch them get gobbled by the BON and get gased by a pox bomber at the same time
If anything Games Lantern has a couple modifiers that I've never seen in-game
It also had some blessings that ended up on the game with UnL
ITS SO OVER LMAO
Just saying
whats a fun and pretty good gun for zealot that isnt the boltgun or purge flmaer?
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Boltpistol
@frosty herald Get back on I wanna do one last modifier run to finish this shit ass event
Brauto
Brauto
agrip braced auto
Ciag
how about the purge flamer instead of flmaer
Db
I will believe havoc difficulty when i see it
I like my braced auto
Get a Graia Brauto and play true gun zealot
Up close and personal
he popped stealth
is he cooking?
i"ll try some thank you
Laspistol, click head
Desperado (blessing) + dance of death + duellist is very fun synergy
both me and dorn are telling you that you arent prepared for how hard its going to be
Chastise to close gaps + RoF + IJ + braced Graia 
i out damaged an electro m1 macro and a ds4 earlier with mk3 evis
i might actually be the best player mk3 evis user
What kind of hard
Cant be harder than cat 4 drachenfels
what melee do you think would work well witht hat?
it cant be that bad
But i hope it is man
Enemies have new health breakpoints kind of hard?
Or other things
braced auto gooo brrr
double barrled shotgun cause it makes me feel like im playing doom
A cat 4 drachenfels would be like
like cica i think youre good enough to actually get to 40 but i dont think your prepared for how much of an uphill battle its going to be even for you
We don't know
But like inverse
Which brauto do you use?
Not for sure that is
You’re the only mk3 user lmfao
We will be fine
Im sure it will be lmfao
aggri
graia also nice
This isnt posturing i just felt twbs wasnt as needed as i thought it'd be
Im sure it's hard cole and u and dorn r better then me
Either you or someone you know musta play tested the new mode for you to keep this stance.
I hope that it is hard
negative modifiers can affect quite a large number of things in the game
this game does run on so many numbers after all
Graia as in the blue one? That gets more accurate the longer you fire in braced?
the one that goes brrrrrrrrr when u brace it
Wait the other also has 70
I probably will be too busy to play havoc in all honesty
Ill be bummed out tbh
All my oomfs will play high tier
Did they say when it's coming? Along with PlayStation release?
And i will be stuck at duh bottom
How’s difficulty scaling from low tier to high tier in havoc
Does it have a sudden spike
@south grove do not push pace when you are scared ever
Ubless there's like
rebind jump to alt or c
U can play higher havoc levels if ur friend has a higher havoc level
It'd be super sad if it was have and have nots
I have not the time to grind 40 levels I work 60 hours a week
it explains this in the devblog cica
More or less 50
@spare talon Humor me for a second, hows the reward tiers work?
I've been told you can't get the Mob 53 outfit day 1
Anygloop
you do a thing and you get a thing
I can get the outfit?
so you have to reach havoc 478231 then you get the first cosmetic
he pushed we wiped
Aw that's shit
then you have to reach 5783295 to get the next one
sorry...
Like a cheese grater to the sack
That’s his main problem I noticed
Fuck all that mindless grind
this is why duos work the best btw
i can see where you fail the hardest
are you duo training tintin lmao
No sorries just learn from your mistakes
I-II on logi
wait are you telling me you dont wanna be pushing forward int he maps all the time?
so what the curios
holy shit
Did u see the 53rd cosmetics
I have stamina regen
I've heard the 53rd outfit is all black
how many
You attack into attacks
And looks kinda similar to the mob 6 outfit
Hank says it’s all black and looks good
3
I have 3
3 gunner resist
so take off sprint eff
It better
I use one on vet
Sprint eff ??
Where are you sprinting to?
basically
it does look cool
The thing is
If they don’t have helmet + mask, and the upper torso Armor don’t have gloves
I kinda don’t want them
Why tin
From how it was described to me it looks like the mob 6 outfit byt slightly modified
I just got killed from a mauler overhead from poxwalkers holding me in place
You also do not dodge, you attack instead of dodging leading to constant chip damage to your very valuable hp pool
Consult to the graphs
Please do not walk into gunners
Do we earn them in sets (like, leg pieces for all 4 classes at a specific tier, then torso pieces for all 4 classes at another specific tier)
Or do we get them in like ogryn leg in maybe tier 3, then zealot let tier 6, then veteran leg in tier 10, etc
should all of spidey sense be on?
I only have the disablers on rn
Feller
That’s all that should be on
Are you posting screens mid mission?
You hyper focused random melee over enemies of real threat
In order
Trappers, dogs
Flamers, bombers
Gunners
Okay so
whats the biggest mistake you see even high level players make?
I can play w meow then when havoc drops
Those are realistically only the things that can kill you
Constantly?
Pushing ahead
500 hundred handicaps
probably not giving ground
This yah
wow thats me!
Trying to kill stuff that I’m already going to kill
thats how i died in that relay station duo!
To me it's people getting over zealous and over extending.
I play defensively with slower weapons because ill push up too far
Tunnel vision is a bitch sometimes
It's why I run book and chord
That was 1 of tintins deaths
The other way not killing a trapper
One trapper and shitty connection means death
The other was because he jumped lmao
I had a feeling this was the answer, causing too much shit to spawn
My chord book build
It’s not the spawning
i have a bad habit of compensating for a mistake by pushing further into danger in an attempt to proc more things to increase my safety, like toughness regen and dr
It’s really not being aware of your team or your surroundings
hm, if thats the problem maybe im ready for auric after all
It’s the number 1 killer of high level players
I still remember the disappointment of when we played
All those clutch clips
Pushing when they shouldn’t
that was like
ages ago
plus ive never been able to keep consistently good performance in any game ever
Me too
the dopamine rush u get from making a wreckless push and cleaning house makes people do it over and over again 😔
Try 2 keep fury up
im very prone to making a stupid mistake every now and again
Book my beloved
I’m very consistent
-ly bad
Ur a lot more defensive dorn than i thought
dorn has seen me survive hell with ease then turn around and get trapped by a trapper with 0 extra enemies around
Same,,
Not gonna be too big of an issue now that I run infil vet, I can counter people's mistakes and finally put smoke nades to use
real
And I top score against pubs

Cause I got fucked over and killed
Gamers not shitting the bed when a Cuban firing line shows up cause the AI is panicking in a smoke cloud
EU moment
Like u play defensively
I always thought u would be a more aggressive player
Like meow
so you're telling me i should slow down instead of speeding up
Anyways this was actual hell
is the gist im getting
Or cole
Ooo smokes, what kind of build overall you using?
Ranged stealth
Gale plays like the AI director owes him money
Since I basically just pop a smoke in a crowd of gunners, watch them run out of the smoke
It’s entirely based on situation and my ability to predict spawn rate
It does
And BRauto them as they exit
im going to beat it to death with my fucking hands for putting me in a match like this
People don't realize it
It’s a little more nuanced than that
But smoke grenades are a godsend in shit like the arena map where there isn't much cover
Pop a hotbox down infront of you
And suddenly enemies go for the melee
What 99.9% of the player base thinks the director is, it is not
Lets the zealots pick them off



