zealot-class

[copper hawk]

Sigh..

[sterile basalt]

Grievous wounds
Unironically
Will allow thunder hammer to break rager combo

[hard nexus]

but smaul is so boring to use

[hard nexus]

GW is slept on

[sterile basalt]

I was so surprised when I realized thunder hammers cannot break rager combo without +stagger or using SP

[hard nexus]

it was a smite psyker

so

it was not very hard

[hard nexus]

it can with slaughterer stacks up i believe

but otherwise yeah

[placid fiber]

Pretty sure I've interrupted their combo without that... can't remember if it was with a light or a heavy tho on my crucis

[hard nexus]

heavy has more stagger

less finesse though

a heavy can stagger a crusher

[sterile basalt]

Can’t do on first strike, needs multiple hits

[copper hawk]

sigh..

[sterile basalt]

U can go into meat grinder rn and try to hit Dreg rager head with heavy sweep on thunder hammers

[south grove]

time to kms

[sterile basalt]

It won’t break combo in 1 hit

[south grove]

I'm washed

[placid fiber]

Might've been multiple hits, I just know I've done it in a mission before which was really weird to me lol

[blissful tendon]

@spare talon @plush estuary hi hello twins whenever yall are ready

[blissful tendon]

my ass is not warmed up

[spare talon]

1 sec lol

[blissful tendon]

but surely this will work out

[hard nexus]

can i join in a bit

i haven’t ran twins in forever

but i’m gonna run book

for funsies

[copper hawk]

waaaow..

ziiigh,,

[placid fiber]

Do the grim

[south grove]

I wanna kms!!!!

[placid fiber]

[south grove]

I failed the emp

[paper harness]

no

[blissful tendon]

last time I ran twins I think it was stealth zealot or shield oggy so honestly I do not feel comfortable taking the lead at all

[hard nexus]

actually nvm sry it’s gonna be 30 min before im home

forgot about flooding

[spare talon]

get floridaed

[hard nexus]

flooding on I-4 :(

[blissful tendon]

forgot about the second consecutive natural disaster within what, a month

happens

[hard nexus]

wuh

[hard nexus]

within like a week

[paper harness]

waiting on aids to finish his mission

[plush estuary]

just entered the station in chasm station

[hard nexus]

what

[placid fiber]

OH wait

That's Fludd...

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/923847030500114432/1293809874786058322/186e337415a516434-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[spare talon]

15 seconds left in the mission

[placid fiber]

It's from super mario sunshine, and it's called "Fludd" <.<

[spare talon]

now i just gotta decide if i want to play ds4 or ds5

[paper harness]

i camp door

[placid fiber]

Do you at least bring a tent? :3

[spare talon]

im sure theyll enjoy you reaching out to them about their kars extended warrenty

[drowsy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-mcu-exhale-thanos-infinity-stone-gif-16660976

[placid fiber]

There's a npc on the 3rd floor in Zelda Dungeons of Infinity that says he's been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty >.>'

[paper harness]

well they wiped

[placid fiber]

There's also a woman who says she has 13 children as well...

[copper hawk]

noobs

[paper harness]

join me or cole

[placid fiber]

I mean have you seen me play zelda? I get hit left and right like a new darktider sometimes lol

[spare talon]

his code is in his name, mine in server profile

[blissful tendon]

doofus

i also havent played twins since a month after it dropped

so i could use a quick rundown of the strat

[placid fiber]

Tho, since I've been playing dungeons of infinity a lot more I've gotten a fuck ton better at the a link to the past swordplay <.<

[spare talon]

hardmode requires both shields broken in 5s of each other

kill rodin first

[paper harness]

you are with me the entire time

camping door 63

[spare talon]

oh you guys actually have a specific strat for it lmao

[hard nexus]

oh lmfao

[spare talon]

ill do ds5 cuz funny

[placid fiber]

Yeah, it helps when you get the reference x.x

[spare talon]

hipstermaxxing
going against the grain

[south grove]

uh oh

[hard nexus]

all i know is a chorus zealot makes it much easier as u can stagger rodna (mine guy) to reduce how many mines there are

and chain weapons negate the damage cap

[spare talon]

well duelling sword exists

so

[hard nexus]

when i did it i used a shred chain sword

[placid fiber]

what about bloodletter chain weapons?

[hard nexus]

this is true unfortunately

[hard nexus]

bleed doesn’t apply to shields

[copper hawk]

https://youtu.be/mUeeFybkRxA?si=uu4TJKdxsIwQ1wvb

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1284620687012659200/4x-2.gif

that ruined anyone's day who had any stock in bloodletter on chain weapons...

Which... is thankfully not that many people in this chat lol

[south grove]

third loss in a row

I fucking suck

[thorn sable]

*anymore

[placid fiber]

It was Saldar who caused the wipe wasn't it

[south grove]

yeh

I had 5 trappers, 3 bombers, and 2-4 snipers on me

[placid fiber]

Yeah not even throwing knives and an autopistol is gonna save you from that lol

[south grove]

why is regular damnation harder than auric

wtf

I mean it was HISTG

[placid fiber]

The rule of Randos

[south grove]

but like

[placid fiber]

Randos come in all colors of worse than useless

and all flavors of that as well...

[copper hawk]

56k damage

[paper harness]

ez

[placid fiber]

So did Saldar go down once or twice?

[spare talon]

that didnt feel like hard mode at all

[copper hawk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/998772241720410262/1016730349058932806/attachment-2-1.gif

[paper harness]

twins no flavour sport

[spare talon]

what the hell

[paper harness]

welcome to the technique

[spare talon]

is that door you camp with kars where most of the dangerous spawns are

[paper harness]

I door camp, he kills them

ye

[spare talon]

peak

[paper harness]

elite spawn point

[blissful tendon]

"he kills them"

[paper harness]

yea

i bring karsolas to two shot crushers

[blissful tendon]

overestimating my contributions

[paper harness]

he brings stealth to mog the twins

me and ainz

[placid fiber]

You gotta remember: This is Dorn... he's good/knowledgeable enough to make immense work out of lacerate uncanny on the knife <.<

[paper harness]

then we usually have someone clear mines while I take the person we are running

[plush estuary]

wasn't him

[spare talon]

yeah ainz was dealing most of the damage cuz of perfection shroud

to the twins

i ate two mauler overheads over the course of it cuz im very intelligent

[south grove]

twice

he had max wound on psyker

lmfao

[placid fiber]

That Car salesman nearly gave you* a run for your money lol

[blissful tendon]

missing doublekill and no mines penance but i assume those can eat shit

[spare talon]

can do that on uprising

[paper harness]

slaughterer headtaker

[placid fiber]

I can't read lol

[spare talon]

dorn was on elites duty

[obsidian ore]

this man speaks the truth

[spare talon]

so his damage was gonna be way higher than ainz who was focusing on bosses only

cuz scoreboard seperates boss damage and total damage for some reason

[placid fiber]

So how soon before you start the new thammer meta of slaughterer headtaker?

[sterile basalt]

I’m actually a headtaker + slaughterer enjoyer for thunder hammers

[paper harness]

ethical thammer is no power

[spare talon]

all of my damage was basically from just flaming hordes during gas sections

[placid fiber]

I'm talking a wide-spread meta

Like... Wide...

https://tenor.com/view/this-much-open-arms-linus-tech-tips-ltt-wide-arms-gif-25216294

[spare talon]

outside of that i was just killing anything that spawned from other doors, and additional shield boss dmg

[sterile basalt]

Don’t think most people would be willing to give up thrust

But headtaker + slaughterer on hammer is just fun

U can actually SP light one tap things

[placid fiber]

I mean some people got pulled into the lacerate uncanny knife side of things, so why not headtaker slaughterer thammer? lol

[sterile basalt]

I was also considering running carapace + maniac on thunder hammer ngl

Instead of unyielding

[placid fiber]

to... 1 shot muties which you already 1 shot...?

[spare talon]

you can rip the unyielding perk out of my cold dead hands

[sterile basalt]

SP light one tap Dreg rager & mutant

[placid fiber]

but... my 3 marty buff bulwark special light 1 shot...

[sterile basalt]

I don’t play martyrdom

[polar cipher]

wait i just saw this but is it really?

[sterile basalt]

[placid fiber]

I mean 3 or 4 headtaker and sustained assault buffs would do roughly the same amount I think

[paper harness]

That gets fent flowers

[sterile basalt]

It’s more readily accessible, sorta QoL

[spare talon]

yes

[sterile basalt]

It’s not hard to maintain headtaker & sustained assault vs boss anyways

[spare talon]

it is ridiculously bad

[sterile basalt]

It maths out to be utterly terrible

[placid fiber]

It is roughly 1% of base health as 1% cdr... and you don't want to willy nilly spend your health resource...

[sterile basalt]

Just checked, u need like max headtaker & slaughterer stacks already to get the 1 tap without maniac on Dreg rager

[polar cipher]

help am i that bad at the game

[visual stream]

How many stacks for flak rager?

Without flak perk

[polar cipher]

i just click what looks good

[placid fiber]

cough I was refering to a bulwark 1 shot on a special light with 25% unyielding

[sterile basalt]

4 sustained, 4 headtaker, 3 slaughterer

[sterile basalt]

That needs full stacks

SP light with 25% unyielding is 2457 damage on weakspot

[paper harness]

Tree is often misleading

[vague depot]

Generally when dealing with a charging mutie should I dodge to proc duelist and then strike the back or go for a headshot and then dodge

[sterile basalt]

U’d have to run martyr to get an SP light 1 hit

[rotund shoal]

depends on ping lol

[polar cipher]

i just need the tree that lets me 1 hit like the cool zealots do

[paper harness]

Dodge and try to kill it

[visual stream]

Dreg is more dangerous than flak by far but would you really wanna give up horde clear?

[placid fiber]

and then the 15% or 20% power multiplying with the 12% or 16% damage bonus from sustained assault being added to that?

[opal star]

that sounds like a lot of work I'd just run chainsword, dodge and sp attack heavy

[vague depot]

That’s crazy

[paper harness]

Avoiding the mutant more important than attacking it imo

[vague depot]

I’m currently using devil claw

[sterile basalt]

Max headtaker & slaughterer is +65% strength total (40% general, 25% melee)
Sustained assault is +20% damage
It’s not high enough without martyrdom

[paper harness]

Given the game is kinda fucky with the netcode

[opal star]

parry the mutie charge trust

[spare talon]

def dodge, duellist will will amp the damage

[vague depot]

Aight

[placid fiber]

I mean you're multiplying your damage x both 1.3(both 5% melee perks on top of the 20% from sustained) and then also by 1.65 with that

[vague depot]

I’ve been having trouble dealing with armored enemies too

[paper harness]

I love mutants pounding me when I am flat against a wall

[sterile basalt]

Sustained assault is +damage, it’s not +strength (additive to existing damage bonuses)

[paper harness]

Shred on the dclaw?

[rotund shoal]

freak

[paper harness]

You got out damaged by meow

[vague depot]

Can a godroll dclaw one shot headshot gunners with a heavy attack

[sterile basalt]

It’s not high enough to do twice as much as normal to get bulwark 1 tap

[opal star]

https://tenor.com/view/freak-level-gif-6250973632100210017

[visual stream]

I notice this usually happens when it's not a wall wall, but rather a set piece like a data interrogator console or barrel

[placid fiber]

Sorry (1.3 + 0.25) x 1.65 then?

[sterile basalt]

What’s 1.3

[placid fiber]

5% melee perk + 5% melee perk + 20% sustained assault bonus

[vague depot]

Also do you prefer to repeat heavy light or heavy push attack for single target

[rotund shoal]

not outfreaked tho

[spare talon]

dclaw is notoriously bad with its armor adms
crit mitigates it for flak and stuff but yeah its kinda falls a little flat in that department

[sterile basalt]

What’s that 0.25 then

[placid fiber]

25% unyielding

[vague depot]

Damn

I guess I gotta bring a gun for that

[paper harness]

Not really

Just light spam

Unless you get really unlucky and the game decides the gunner will not stop shooting

Happens

[sterile basalt]

I just checked

It does 4790 damage

[placid fiber]

<.<

That's what I was getting at >.>

[paper harness]

Hardtide updated

[placid fiber]

all those bonuses add up lol

[paper harness]

Nice

[sterile basalt]

Which is NOT enough for a bulwark 1 shot

[placid fiber]

bulwarks have 4800 health?

[south grove]

fun

[sterile basalt]

Yea

[vague depot]

You really did go damage dump stat

[sterile basalt]

You’re 10~11 damage off

[paper harness]

Every day

Same shit

[polar cipher]

help

[south grove]

AHAHAHAHA

[polar cipher]

is that real

[placid fiber]

Is that also with the ij buff then?

[paper harness]

Yes

[sterile basalt]

No IJ buff
But that’s jumping through way too many hoops to get one breakpoint lol

[polar cipher]

that is ....

....

[sterile basalt]

U might as well count in duellist

[misty wraith]

[placid fiber]

I mean... if the bulwark is targeting you when you have those stacks up then you light special the shield away, activating ij, the last hoop is solved is it not?

[sullen forge]

Dorn pretty plz… me need shirtless mod pretty pretty plz…

[rotund shoal]

might switch to mk3 just for my ego..

[sullen forge]

How often do you get those lmao

[paper harness]

sure

daily

[sullen forge]

Pain

[sterile basalt]

I mean it as in
You have to maintain both blessings, plus sustained assault, plus IJ stacks
The timing window is very short to have slaughterer not drop when you’re doing ur light atk to open bulwark

[paper harness]

I can give it to people now, nobody can get it working

[sullen forge]

Lmao that goes hard as hell

[placid fiber]

Oh yeah, this is a massive loophole that won't happen 99.999999999999% of the time in runs.

but also I mean... but just getting headtaker, slaughterer, and sustained to max stacks the chances of having an ij buff up is not as unrealistic

[copper hawk]

Twins time

[placid fiber]

It's just unfeasible

[paper harness]

for who

[copper hawk]

Idk for me

For funsies

I havent played twins in a bajillion yrs

[sterile basalt]

It’s not unrealistic, it’s kinda just not worth
Besides u have 20% unyielding from tree and duellist which are more accessible than “maintaining slaughterer vs bulwarks”

[placid fiber]

cough also isn't the hitstun only 0.3s on a light special now? lol

[sullen forge]

Twins punch only

[copper hawk]

Kid named sidestep bulwark

[sterile basalt]

This is precisely the reason why I don’t run thrust anymore

[placid fiber]

plus another 0.3-0.5 seconds to activate it again

I have noticed there is a noticeable delay before you can have your special up again after using it... which is not there when you just swing your melee instead

[sterile basalt]

It’s still faster than SP, charge-up for thrust x3, heavy atk, get stunned for 1s

[median ridge]

does no one have just a flesh wound penance?

[sterile basalt]

I’d rather get 2 empowered lights out during that time

[placid fiber]

b-but... my heresy daemonhost 2 shot...

[clever swan]

my team wiped like 2 times and i was solo for 3+ minutes (against a boss once too) and i won. they hated me for it

[plush estuary]

I can help 5-10min

[placid fiber]

Which is possible with t4 thrust, chastise, the 20% unyielding talent, 25% unyielding perk, and 3 marty damage stacks on headshots for both hits <.<

[marble tinsel]

I'm levelling the heavy sword right now, should I do rampage headtaker or deathblow headtaker

[placid fiber]

but I'm a thrust+unyielding pilled thammer user <.<

and I get the 20% unyielding talent on almost every build anyway

[placid fiber]

so the biggest things in this for me are chastise headshotting twice and 3 marty stacks lol

[visual stream]

Oh yeah another thing they messed up with thammer this patch is that clicking the special when it's already active does not refresh the duration before it unsparks by itself

[paper harness]

For hs9 deathblow

[placid fiber]

and with 25 flak u can 2 shot the damnation assassination boss apparently...

[median ridge]

@plush estuary cool, add me so we can get blue armor

[marble tinsel]

I'm using 6 right now, is 9 better for crowds?

[paper harness]

preference

[placid fiber]

All 3 mks of heavy sword perform approximately the same

The biggest thing about the 9 is you can get deathblow on the heavies 2 and 3 loop vs hordes

[marble tinsel]

ah I've just been using 6 with light heavy light heavy

[placid fiber]

I absolutely hate looping the heavy 2 and heavy 3 on the mk9, tho

When I heavy on a heavy sword I want the damage the heavies on the mk6 do for each one

[marble tinsel]

tbh once I get it to 20 I'm probably not touching it much after, it feels like a far worse evis

[placid fiber]

not the dmg of 1 of them and then a vanguard one(without block canceling/specialing)

[marble tinsel]

at least to me

I shall try rampage and head-taker and see if that gives me some improvements, thank you!

[placid fiber]

The mk9 has some uses on the heavies 2 and 3, I just hate them since I want the heavies to do the same damage as the heavy 1 lol

And I want a more vertical heavy 1 on top of that, which left me with the mk6 which is the one I prefer

[latent vortex]

just be true to yourself

..and use the knife

[placid fiber]

You mean the melee weapon I had a complete 0 interest in until the mk6 version came out?

[latent vortex]

exactly.

just let your zealot instincts take over

....and use the knife

[placid fiber]

Honestly I'd rather use the original version of the mk2(mk3 now) eviscerator(when it fucking sucked) than the mk3 knife for damnation >.>

[latent vortex]

lmao fair enough

[placid fiber]

The only time I use the mk3 knife is on malice or lower(generally only uprising with t4 lacerate on it)

[vague depot]

Why should I use burst vigilant autogun over the single shot version

Should I just refer to it as headhunter

[placid fiber]

I don't know which one does better in what scenarios so I can't tell u x.x

All I remember is that headhunters have piss poor(or mid) maniac damage(unless that got changed)

[vague depot]

I feel like burst should do more dps but the recoil on this gun is so miserable I cannot land all 3 shots without violently jerking my aim down

[placid fiber]

Doesn't the one with the 3 fire burst have more ammo?

[vague depot]

The kick is so bad that the iron sights becomes completely useless after the first shot

[placid fiber]

I think the single shot is just better overall for long range snipes

[vague depot]

I think so yea

It also does more damage if you land all 3 shots

[spring storm]

stat to drop on flamer?

[vague depot]

Damage

[placid fiber]

damage or mobility

[spring storm]

🤨

mobility ok, damage tho?

[placid fiber]

damage adds like... 1 or 2dps on the flamer

[north sedge]

burn is the real dmg stat on flamer

[spring storm]

real real?

🤔

[vague depot]

Damage only affects the initial burst of flames iirc so it doesn’t do shit

Most of the flamer actual damage comes from the burning

[spring storm]

i will invest my precious resources now

[placid fiber]

Like you're losing 1(or 2) dps by having 60% damage instead of 80%... on a weapon that does a lot more than 1 dps(for the burn)

[vague depot]

60% damage flamer still absolutely disintegrates bosses

[placid fiber]

^

Meanwhile 80% mobility flamer still sprints at piss poor speeds

so honestly: dump whichever one want to lol

[north sedge]

burn has to be 76% for max dmg

[placid fiber]

^

[vague depot]

I need more dia

[placid fiber]

department (of) intelligent apes?

[vague depot]

#veteran-class

[plush estuary]

@median ridge Ready?

[median ridge]

@plush estuary still here

Fatshark code 2569571379

[placid fiber]

Man... that made me remember the trauma of when I was able to 2 shot a damnation crusher with the 5% damage aura but not with the ammo regen aura and the same other talents damage-wise

[vague depot]

That’s rough

[placid fiber]

It is both hilarious and depressing

[vague depot]

Stack more damage modifiers

[placid fiber]

iirc I had it happen on multiple weapons actually lol

[river blade]

there a preferred mk for the combat shotgun?

[latent vortex]

slug

realistically you can do w/e, zealot has insane levels of "do whatever the fuck you want" ability

[spare talon]

Fuck it we ball

The class

[river blade]

so the scattershot one is not ideal

[latent vortex]

probably not

slug has insane utility

[river blade]

outside of the fuck you i do what i want mindset i guess

[latent vortex]

ye, ik what you mean

There are choices that are objectively better, yes

[grizzled aspen]

Slug can run full bore and get it instantly, every shot.

[latent vortex]

but zealot's baseline is so good that anything works

almost*

[spare talon]

Lawby kinda got btfo by db

[grizzled aspen]

Combat shotguns got power crept by everything.

[spare talon]

Ilas:

[grizzled aspen]

Frankly I think they just need to make all the special shells be their normal ammo.

[latent vortex]

that would be SO much better

[grizzled aspen]

Agri shotgun shooting only slugs, kantrael shooting only dragons breath, and lawby shooting only high damage, tight spread shots.

(I am coping with the lack of a flashlight)

[river blade]

so what is the best pound for pound ranged weapon on zealot?

[dense field]

There are many options

Flamer is one of them

[paper harness]

Flamer or ciag

[grizzled aspen]

Boltgun go brrrrr.

It's one of those options.

Pick your poison.

[river blade]

i would like boltgun so much more if it was quick to pull out

same with flamer

gotta molest it before you can shoot for some reason

[dense field]

Zarona is still great

[rotund shoal]

i like zarona less and less

cuz you gotta molest it after you shoot it

(reload)

[grizzled aspen]

Honestly, since the boltgun buff, it's not really necessary to run zarona.

[rotund shoal]

for like 15 minutes

[rotund shoal]

i mean in many ways theyre kind of the same weapon except zarona is faster to pullout and more precise

[dense field]

And the bolt pistol is almost a straight upgrade to revolver

[rotund shoal]

nah i didnt mean that zarona is still op cuz cleave

bpistol worse

i just dont like it

[latent vortex]

The times I pull out the flamer are when bulwarks start to push (slow) or if we're surrounded, I pull back while equipping flamer behind my allies and then I push forward with it

Your allies make great decoys

[vague depot]

And also burgle

[hard nexus]

not really

[dense field]

A L M O S T

[visual stream]

EEEEEHHHHH

[hard nexus]

more ammo, faster reload, but a slightly longer draw speed, less cleave, less potential damage against armor, slower follow up shots

[visual stream]

It's good but not revo good

[hard nexus]

revolver is still much better

just that the bolt pistol is viable now

[latent vortex]

Hmm. Similar utilization but not quite there

[rotund shoal]

if your teammates dont fuck it up you can line up the elites and delete them with zarona

[latent vortex]

so... impossible?

[rotund shoal]

bpistol you gotta go one at a time and it also puts them on the ground which kinda sucks

[latent vortex]

i went to the dentist today. I needed like 5-6 shots of anesthesia since I'm highly resistant x.x

[vague depot]

Why are the needles so huge

[latent vortex]

they're reusable i believe

[rotund shoal]

i always decline the anesthesia after asking them if it will hurt

they say no

usually its a lie

[gentle hound]

is it bad to just light spam mk2 tac axe cuz its reallly fun too

[vague depot]

If it works it works

[latent vortex]

I'm fine with it, but I haven't needed that much before lmao

[vague depot]

Should I light or heavy spam Rashad on bosses/bulwarks

[rotund shoal]

are you on pc

[grizzled aspen]

You get anesthesia?

(I am allergic to most anesthetics)

[rotund shoal]

damn that sucks

usually its funny

[vague depot]

Yuh

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah I learned about that when my tonsils were removed.

Almost died.

[rotund shoal]

do you want to know how to find out the answer to your question

[hushed knoll]

I’m glad you’re ok

[rotund shoal]

wasnt aware frogs have tonsils

[hushed knoll]

What happened to chudblast

[rotund shoal]

@vague depot https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/25 download this mod

[grizzled aspen]

You're unaware of many things.

[rotund shoal]

go to psykhanium

spawn a boss

hit it

[median ridge]

has anyone gotten blue armor?

[vague depot]

Ok

[rotund shoal]

it will show you your dps

not being snide its just better for everyone if you learn how to answer those questions yourself as well lol

its also kind of fun

[grizzled aspen]

Some guy came in here and said my name bothered him because it translated to "fuckblast" in his native tongue.

So I went back to frogcast.

[hard nexus]

fuckblast

[vague depot]

This also lets me turn on enemy ai right

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[rotund shoal]

Yes. enemy ai is actually tuned on the entire time

[vague depot]

Sounds good

[copper hawk]

kyaaa

i hate the army

[rotund shoal]

in psykhanium you are invisible

[vague depot]

Sounds good

[copper hawk]

hate hate hate

[grizzled aspen]

You are literally an mp, what are you complaining about?

[copper hawk]

this poopoo unit and its poopoo headquaters

[vague depot]

Hop on darktide

[copper hawk]

in the army you get a government travel card which is billed when you travel for official business

[hushed knoll]

Oh

[copper hawk]

i need it to fly from where my leave location is at to an airport the deploying unit can pick me up in to bus me on base

w the rest of the cross levels

to do this u have to make an authorization for a tdy trip - which is usually done, for deployments or business like this, by HQ

i had to do it and for whatever reason it's been sitting on some paper pusher's desk awaiting final rubber stamp approval and no one has approved it yet

it's been 3 days and no one has approved it - its gone up the chain and all it needs is a final rubber stamp

and i got a 72 hour notice that the flight i booked w my gtc to fly will be auto cancelled if the trip isnt authorized

and im being ghosted by the g8 authority for this

so i might have to fork over like 1200 bucks to fly myself personally to the right airport

[grizzled aspen]

Go to the guy above him?

[copper hawk]

i dont know who's above that guy

there's a bunch of guys

[grizzled aspen]

Make some phone calls.

[copper hawk]

i sent it to a group mailbox so in theory every chompsky honk can see it

but everynya hate me

no stampy my auth,,

i dont WANNA Dip into my savings to pay for this flight

cuz i know DAMN WELL they're not gonna reimburse me

and if they do, it'll be like

ten bucks and a im sorrgy teehee

[grizzled aspen]

Was about to say, can't you keep a receipt and request a reimbursement?

[copper hawk]

these approval authorities aren't interns either, they're dod employees w a g8 salary

i love paying ppl to not work

hgrhmgmrmgm..

[rotund shoal]

what happens if you just dont go

[grizzled aspen]

Idk, I'd make some phone calls and raise hell.

[rotund shoal]

and you say you didnt get approved and didnt have money to travel by yourself

[copper hawk]

you'd be in some hot shit

since this is a deployment

there are no victims in the army

just slightly less guilty people

[rotund shoal]

cuz they didnt approve the travel thats supposed to take you theree?

thats some bs

[grizzled aspen]

If some pencil pusher has had their mitts on it for 3 days then that's 2 days, 23 hours, and 45 minutes too long.

[copper hawk]

they'll find some reason to blame sgt snuffy before they blame g8 knuckle dragger

this shit happens aaaaall the time

well, stuff like this

shit flows downhill

[grizzled aspen]

He gets court martial'd, probably.

[copper hawk]

if by tomorrow it's not approved/no reply to this email ill just book a flight myself

[grizzled aspen]

He is a Sgt after all.

[copper hawk]

if i dont go that's being awol and who knows what else

i'd get articled for sure

[grizzled aspen]

Make some phone calls.

[copper hawk]

i already did

[grizzled aspen]

Make more.

[copper hawk]

i've sent emails and made phone calls

[grizzled aspen]

Be a fucking nuisance.

[copper hawk]

im just whinging about how worthless that army is

[south grove]

first win of the day...

I'm tired

[grizzled aspen]

Uncle Sam won't pay attention to you if you don't have the cajones to be an asshole.

[rotund shoal]

that was so american a yellow school bus just ran me over

[paper harness]

yes

[copper hawk]

ok

i consulted the sgt village and apparently this is a cross platoon issue

yum yum

if im not the the only one then we're vibin

this deployment is gonna suck lmfao

even the higher higher higher cant get their shit straight

so meowny noobs..

tide time

[craggy valve]

Dueling sword has just the base 5% crit chance, right?

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[copper hawk]

i think

only melee wpns for zeal w a higher than normal base crit are the

knife and taxe im p sure

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789563820208423005/1231398232769298525/BF22DEC9-AFD7-49A7-AE54-2A386EBE5122.gif?ex=670e5d38&is=670d0bb8&hm=10d9ffd726d510c76ff422c548e063c662d1bcaeb8a95d29494d6ba28fcd5f57&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789563820208423005/1231398244249243658/togif-4.gif?ex=670e5d3b&is=670d0bbb&hm=07a6ad636cc7f4f9bf6f8acb74dda82f765c098029c1cffbdc03639467a4b885&

thoughts on this ?

[vague depot]

which of the 3 autoguns are best used against armor

[copper hawk]

agri i think

[vague depot]

or are none of them very good against it

[copper hawk]

agri brauto

they all suffer against flak

or armor in general

run +flak and +unarmored to kill gunners

[vague depot]

i was gonna use it against carapace

[obsidian prairie]

Don't use an autogun for that

only vet can really get away with it

[vague depot]

damn

[obsidian prairie]

If you want anti cara try either revolver (I will judge you on the variant) bolt pistol, bolter

Probably more I am forgetting

[latent vortex]

most of your anti-armor is gonna come from your melee

there's some ranged ofc

but that's a pretty specialized build

[vague depot]

devil claw

[vague depot]

i like the one where i can aim down sights

[latent vortex]

parries make fuck on crushers

[obsidian prairie]

Lame

[rotund shoal]

wouldnt say agri brauto is bad against flak

[latent vortex]

You just have to time the parry window, the only attack you have to time

[vague depot]

the quickdraw one felt pretty cool to use but it felt more inaccurate

[river blade]

can you parry a crusher slam?

[rotund shoal]

yeh

[latent vortex]

you can, it's just a tight timing

[rotund shoal]

300ms window

[river blade]

sick

[obsidian prairie]

You can parry basically anything

[latent vortex]

crusher overheads are special

[obsidian prairie]

Except like, flamers and barrels

[rotund shoal]

agri brauto dmg tables

[vague depot]

how much is 300 ms in terms of frames

[rotund shoal]

only 30dmg less than unarmored

[rotund shoal]

not really how it works

netcode

[vague depot]

i dont understand any of that

[rotund shoal]

and it depends on your fps as well

[obsidian prairie]

18

[vague depot]

18f

[rotund shoal]

if running at 60fps

[vague depot]

lmao i can block that shit easy

[paper harness]

15

[latent vortex]

most healthy adults who game at least somehwat regularly can achieve 300ms easily

[opal star]

why the hell are we talking about frame data in a shooting game

I thought I stumbled into a FGC

[latent vortex]

Especially with a very long visual indicator

[vague depot]

it was the easiest way for me to understand

[paper pine]

Heavy sword is the only weapon where you can get rendering and bromentum but the rendering is max 50% and requires multiple enemies AND lasts 1 second less than uncanny

[paper harness]

Parry

[rotund shoal]

netcode is a difficult subject

[obsidian prairie]

The rending just ends up being worse than straight power sadly

[rotund shoal]

cant really explain it its not straightforward for programmers to get either

[latent vortex]

You'll be fine, just time it to visual indicators

[rotund shoal]

its more or less how the game balances the fact that information takes time to travel

[paper pine]

Put parry and rendering on rashad

[obsidian prairie]

Rendering

[paper pine]

Rending

[obsidian prairie]

I didn't know you could do steaks on a rashad

[paper pine]

Whatever

[latent vortex]

I'm laying down on the couch, my cat walked up on the armrest, flopped down and is now using me to support him lmao

[paper harness]

power is better than brutal on the 6 and 7

[opal star]

darktide player downed sound effect 10 hours

[latent vortex]

I once had a 10 hour video up of waluigi saying "WAH" every so often

It'd last juuuust long enough for me to forget about it

and then. WAH

[vague depot]

i start hearing the backstab sfx every now and then

[opal star]

backstab has sfx?

[rotund shoal]

wait till you start seeing trappers in your dreams

[vague depot]

yea its like swwwhua

[opal star]

me looking at the trappers in my dreams

https://tenor.com/view/dawg-skull-emoji-gif-24661581

[rotund shoal]

@paper harness mk3 uncanny/flak or uncanny/maniac (with ij uncanny)

[latent vortex]

The backstabs on YOU

that threw me for a loop for a bit too because you hear backstab and think of your backstab bonus on them

but noooope it's for the player

[opal star]

oh

[copper hawk]

Yah

Like vt2

[opal star]

OH THAT SOUND

[copper hawk]

Both games have backstab sfx

[latent vortex]

Yee, you know the sound lol

[copper hawk]

There's two different ones in dt

[opal star]

The sound of losing half my HP to a poxwalker slapping my ass

[copper hawk]

Ranged and melee

[latent vortex]

Yeah, melee is deeper and ranged is lighter and shorter

[copper hawk]

Just like me..

[opal star]

it sounds like the uh

the hawk to a tuah

[latent vortex]

):

[vague depot]

what is this supposed to mean

[latent vortex]

i hate this

[copper hawk]

Hawl chewa

[latent vortex]

I'm assuming they mean "light and short"

[opal star]

Am I wrong though

[latent vortex]

no

but stop it

[opal star]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-boo-hannibal-gif-26547020

[paper pine]

I just realised this is super useful in london

[opal star]

shooters when the player they’re aiming at crouches right in front of them

[paper pine]

We all got ptsd from groaner backstabs

[latent vortex]

Your boos mean nothing to me. I've seen what makes you cheer.

that line will never not go hard lmao

[paper pine]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[visual stream]

Random groaners are the #1 perpetuator of no-audio backstabs

[paper harness]

Flak unyielding

[latent vortex]

unyielding doesn't get used nearly as often as it should imo

[visual stream]

When I dodge the backstab audio that tells me only one guy is attacking me, only to get 4 staggered hits at once after that

[paper harness]

Cica

[rotund shoal]

ty

i went back to mk3

im way better at it now

after mk6

[visual stream]

What armor type did the new event horde guys event count as

Flak body, unarmored head?

[latent vortex]

flak/unarmored right?

[visual stream]

Probably

[weak sail]

Anyone have a talent tree for a Thundrr Hammer build?

[visual stream]

Which hammer?

Also post hammer

[latent vortex]

uhh if you're going for big fuck you damage basically the entire right side of the tree + duelist

or you can go left side and grab piety for more consistency

[weak sail]

Dont have a hammer yet just going for some masteries right now but need an endgame

[visual stream]

I like going bolter with it, tknives, chastise/fury, and Inexorable Judgement

Make sure to pick up Thy Wrath be Swift and Duellist, among other things

Not at home to send pics but if you make a talent tree we can give you guidance or someone else can post a pic

[weak sail]

Thanks guys

[latent vortex]

yeah, fotf and IJ are almost non-negotiable for the hammer

that shit is SO SLOW

[visual stream]

So much better dodging...

[latent vortex]

piety is nice though, but the attack speed loss is ouch

[visual stream]

Makes the H3s more readily available to spend dodging into gunners/etc. for

[obsidian prairie]

Piety is terrible for thammer

[visual stream]

And also ease of breakpoints for Ironhelm

[north sedge]

eh you can do marty

[visual stream]

Also bad finesse values on hammer in general, even if helm got slight finesse buffs recently

Marty good too

[north sedge]

piety sucks on hammer

[paper harness]

Piety is terrible for most things

[latent vortex]

ah, fair enough

and yeah that is true

[rotund shoal]

tknifed a bon

ahhhh

speedgif.gif

[latent vortex]

attack speed is just so good

[paper harness]

Dodge distance reins supreme

[obsidian prairie]

But its at least fun on them

[visual stream]

Crit cdr could be a helpful meem for hammer though

If not helpful then funny

[obsidian prairie]

It isn't fun on a slow as shit weapon that doesn't get any damage from it

[paper harness]

Piety only valid on finesse scaled weapons

[weak sail]

Which thammer mark is nicer?

[visual stream]

Both

[weak sail]

Crucius?

[visual stream]

I prefer ironhelm

[paper harness]

Personal preference

[weak sail]

Which does what?

[paper harness]

Use both

[weak sail]

Fair, I'll try both

[paper harness]

Find out which moveset you like

[visual stream]

Ironhelm is amazing generalist and kinda loses out on 0 of the breakpoints that crucis gets, crucis just hits the BPs slightly easier

[obsidian prairie]

Crucis is fuck that guy in particular and ironhelm is fuck everyone in between me and that guy

[paper harness]

They made crucius playable in the patch

[visual stream]

Horde clear and elite clear in one

Crucis is better monstro damage as its main upside

[copper hawk]

damn

twins normal mode is easy as fuck

i wish when you parried w the dclaw it didnt launch you into the stratosphere

[spare talon]

I don't think I can justify swapping off of piety for ij with taxe, atk speed is already carpel tunnel and dodges are already peak
It would also mean I'd have to drop 1 point somewhere and I'd rather not do that

And realistically never not critting is so funny against bosses and melee elites

[copper hawk]

nuh uh

heavy swad..,

use my heby swurd,,

beeld,,

u know u wanna,, mm stalwart,,

[paper harness]

Die

Irl

[copper hawk]

oh so ur at ur pooter

ahem

[paper harness]

Not right now

[copper hawk]

Damn it.

[vague depot]

How do i dodge slide without using up 2 dodges

[paper harness]

You can’t

If you cancel it, you only get the dodge aspect

[vague depot]

What stim is best for ranged weapons

[paper harness]

Plus a bit more multiplicative dr

Red

[copper hawk]

uh

damage stim i guess

the other stims dont affect ur shootah

[paper harness]

Blue does

[copper hawk]

yo mama .

[paper harness]

But damage and rending more important

[rotund shoal]

we did it lads

420 blaze it

[paper harness]

Uninstall the game

[rotund shoal]

uninsttall yo mama

[paper harness]

Imagine using the blue helmet and 500k frame

[rotund shoal]

full fit

[copper hawk]

lmfao

[rotund shoal]

swagging on your asses

[paper harness]

I miss when it was a million

[copper hawk]

absolute swag

[paper harness]

And it was generally a reliable indicator of player skill

So sad

[rotund shoal]

can never win

[visual stream]

Celerity makes you shoot faster but damage makes ya damage more

[rotund shoal]

am trash

[visual stream]

So it depends on the goon

[rotund shoal]

(watch dorn post his hours)

[paper harness]

It used to take a thousand hours to get it in auric alone

[visual stream]

There's a vet meme build for a talent that stacks brittleness on hit with the fastest firing recon and a celerity makes it shine

[paper harness]

More actually

[vast basin]

jesus can I not load into a defeat screen

twice in a row

[paper harness]

Free plasteel

[vast basin]

useless for me unfortunately

[paper harness]

Never enough plasteel

[craggy valve]

Plasteel is always in surplus. Diamantine goes down slowly for me.

[paper harness]

Given update in less than 12 weeks

[spare talon]

Your best bet pre patch was auric mael with a purg staff psyker

[paper harness]

I got it without playing psyker

Just enough games

[spare talon]

Yea but if you want peak efficiency

[paper harness]

My word is sufficient source

Could even be less

[latent vortex]

i am the og bandana user for my psyker

[rotund shoal]

level 422

[latent vortex]

don't @ me

[rotund shoal]

if he outdmgs me its over

[paper harness]

Lmaooo

[spare talon]

I assume this means new weapons for next patch are next on the list

[paper harness]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-dicaprio-leonardo-django-right-gif-18131224

[spare talon]

Cuz that would also explain something else too

[north sedge]

oh they finally adding chainpen

[fleet zealot]

60% ft

[median steeple]

remove smite and just let psyker throw chainsaws

[spare talon]

Don't need it
Bleed dps

Trust

[vague depot]

How do I dodge the plague ogryn triple attack

It’s two side swipes and a overhead

[fleet zealot]

true

[fleet zealot]

block block dodge

[spare talon]

Just hold yout block while you dodge

[fleet zealot]

if you want to do it braindead

[vague depot]

Oh so like Minotaur

[fleet zealot]

only the last one needs to be dodged

[vague depot]

Do I dodge left or right for the stomp

[fleet zealot]

dodge back for stomp

[vague depot]

Damn

What about the uppercut

[fleet zealot]

side

either side will work there might be a better one to pick but i haven't noticed

[vague depot]

Alright is the charge dodgeable if I’m close to it or do I just take the stamina damage

[fleet zealot]

if you can get him to hit a wall he will stun himself

but gl doing that he locks like a mofo

i've pulled it off twice, i just take the stam

and don't be a pubber who eats the charge unblocked and gets sent to the moon

[spare talon]

If you're fighting in the psyk just know that it's way harder to dodge him there

[median steeple]

the tracking and hitbox feels a bit fucky on that attack

I've dodged it once

[spare talon]

Same
Once

[paper harness]

Off the map

[visual stream]

I just dodge dodge dodge and with hammer it works fine enough

Block better for dodge count though I suppose

[fleet zealot]

Back to the mourningstar

hah i'm twice as good as epic cole and ciaphas /j

[spare talon]

Me pressing sky fire button in a yard speedrun only to meet God via plogryn charge

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908476894045937664/1291815590297866331/ezgif-7-8f58465034.gif

[paper harness]

Ye

Pogryn is a cunt for true solos

[spare talon]

That clip was golden

[fleet zealot]

yea 3 hit tentacle combo, the first two swipes barely do anything if you block em, but the 3rd is an overhead iirc so you wanna dodge to the side

[spare talon]

Can't find it rn tho

[vague depot]

How do you deal with the bulwark shield bash

[fleet zealot]

cry

[vague depot]

It cannot possibly be that grim

[fleet zealot]

it's a punishment, you have to let bulwark whiff a swing first

out of respect

if you don't, and hit the shield like an idiot

you get punished

[vague depot]

I’m being bashed even if I don’t hit the shield

Is it a positioning thing

[rotund shoal]

sometimes they just bash

[fleet zealot]

yes

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ferrt-hacking-gif-18303105

[vague depot]

Can I stack different stims together or do they overwrite each other

[spare talon]

Overwrite

[vague depot]

Alright

[spare talon]

No fent OD allowed

[vague depot]

Where should I aim if I want to parry a mauler overhead and hit their head

[fleet zealot]

slightly above their head

[vague depot]

Alright

[spare talon]

Downward

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/by-the-nine-im-tweaking-by-the-nine-im-tweaking-signalis-signalis-game-gif-14031434859351507230

[vague depot]

Sometimes when I hit them with the parry they just randomly animation cancel into the stagger flinch

[rotund shoal]

duo gloriana

mael

[fleet zealot]

nvm

listen to cole

[rotund shoal]

me fr

[fleet zealot]

zealot taking all 4 stims at once and fighting horus (on the floor OD'ing)

[visual stream]

what's so male about this gloriana duo?

[misty nova]

Bro's on that OD rage

[void bison]

[rotund shoal]

he barelled me

[visual stream]

The first five minutes, the make or break of the mission

That mission with extra barrel modifier is evil

[rotund shoal]

i dove a horde to save him and he immediatelly barrels me

lmao

actual chad move

[vague depot]

Should I bother dodging the chaos spawn strikes or do I just block everything and dodge the grab to the right

[fleet zealot]

the single big slam you have to dodge

cause it's a breaker

[vague depot]

Single?

Doesn’t it follow it up with a second one

[fleet zealot]

otherwise yea, it's tempo is still very high so blocking is the bset bet and saving dodges for the important stuff

[copper hawk]

New fav pub carry build

[rotund shoal]

it has no 2 hit attack

either single overhead

or the stomp

or the uppercut

or the 3 hit combo

left right overhead

[copper hawk]

I have been book pilled

[paper harness]

Plasma vet in general shit talking people is wild

[vague depot]

I swear it raises both tentacles for a slam and then follows it up with a second one

[rotund shoal]

oh sorry you meant cspawn

[vague depot]

Maybe I just wasnt focusing

Did I talk about the wrong monster

I didn’t

[rotund shoal]

nah i just thought you were talking about pogryn

i dunno chaos spawn moveset actually its all kind of blurs together for me except the grab

on knife you can just dodge right everything

[vague depot]

Yea it just never lets up

[rotund shoal]

right and slightly in

procs duellist as well

[vague depot]

First time I fought it I was expecting the vt2 version

[merry flume]

gimme one reason why i shouldn't put thunderous on my crusher

[north sedge]

Cause it sucks

[visual stream]

When I'm five miles away but the chaos spawn opens a black hole in its hand so I have to eat a cutscene (three flamers have already been spawned on their way to my position)

[merry flume]

nuh uh

[north sedge]

Yuh huh

[lean cairn]

every flamer in the game homing in on my position the instant i get trapped

[rotund shoal]

give cspawn elden beast divine punishment

funniest attack

you beat down radagon, get elden beast to 20%

host of embers runs straight into divine punishment

you watch the cutscene of him dying cuz he has 20 vigor

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/ror-2-risk-of-rain-risk-of-rain-2-grandparent-parent-gif-11452667452306954429

[rotund shoal]

and emote

[visual stream]

Love artificer but wish she didn't suck

Is new Risk of Rain update worth it fellas

[merry flume]

mods

[visual stream]

I love the one that gives her a diagonal/horizontal ice kickoff as her shift

Really needs that mobility

[paper harness]

General chat is so funny

[north sedge]

Artificer is fine

[paper harness]

“You guys are so bad lmao”

I ask him to duo

[north sedge]

Safe as fuck with the liftoff too

[paper harness]

“I don’t like this game”

[visual stream]

She's 'fine' but at the same time very mid for the way you have to play her

Meanwhile loader does the same thing all run and gets free in-kit shielding just for playing the game, AND does more damage than arti

[copper hawk]

What's happening in gen chag

Chat

[median steeple]

evil fucked up cat

[paper harness]

Plasma user calls players bad

Gets called on it

Refuses to back it up

https://tenor.com/view/rip-bozo-gif-22294771

[vague depot]

How do I show healthbars with creatures that I spawned in the meat grinder

[paper harness]

They should be on

[naive stirrup]

need to give it a second

[obsidian prairie]

In my experience with modded you just need to kill an enemy type for their bars to show

[rotund shoal]

#zealot-class message @copper hawk

u got 100k more with hsword

😛

[paper harness]

…..

So

Uhh

Damage taken

Is high

[hard nexus]

uh no

how?????

?????

i’ve gotten through to you

wait

those are all 14 hours ago

[misty mason]

Thy Worms Be Soft

[hard nexus]

oops

[hard nexus]

health bars mod

[south grove]

I'm not good at the game

[hard nexus]

buff tintin

[south grove]

no amount of buff will make me better

I need to improve myself

[paper harness]

Dodge more

[south grove]

I dodge a lot already

but will do

ty

[paper harness]

Anyone got a power DI log of a game with him in it

[south grove]

I have it

[paper harness]

Pls post movement slide

[hard nexus]

i do but i’m not home rn

[south grove]

I'm ingame rn

I'll post it afterwards

[hard nexus]

i gotta pull up the 6 death game

@paper harness

tintin 6 deaths

ignore my 2 deaths my build sucked

[finite grotto]

I remember using a braced autogun for the lulz

[paper harness]

I want to see his dodges

[finite grotto]

the blue one

you needed the perk that gives you accuracy when you dodge it was insane

[hard nexus]

i’ll pull it up when i get home

[rocky nacelle]

https://fixupx.com/KevinLan043/status/1844733692016480673

[hard nexus]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFuwtT6X/

[quaint rose]

gimme revolver breakpoints

[rocky nacelle]

thx for that

🐈‍⬛ 🌀

https://tenor.com/view/maxwell-maxwell-spin-spinning-cat-maxwell-spinning-gif-27234188

[south grove]

was this not enough?

I can definitely see my dodges is significantly lower than them.

[paper harness]

Yep

[south grove]

I've started sliding more more recently though

that one was like 2 weeks ago

[copper hawk]

Thoughts on this critter

[rocky nacelle]

i love god awful thumbnails

jumpscare

[south grove]

this was a maelstrom I just failed

[copper hawk]

U want me 2 carry u pookie

[south grove]

if you want ig

I don't wanna inconvenience you

[copper hawk]

Lmfao chill it's otay

[rocky nacelle]

a zealot player is never inconvienced when they have a chance to ego boost

[copper hawk]

I just teasing

I love playin w u :3

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[copper hawk]

U r learning

It's ok 2 stink

I sucked 2 when i first started

[bitter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-darktide-explode-warhammer-40k-gif-7567690485009069789

[merry flume]

@paper harness whats ur highest hardtide streak rn

[paper harness]

Game reset it

Dunno

[rotund shoal]

imma join too if yall are playinh