zealot-class

[hard nexus]

[copper hawk]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iRSn9dqXYc0OPcZo_?invite=cr-MSxZbVIsMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iRSHYb70vVs6EjMcx?invite=cr-MSw4Q1UsMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[hard nexus]

book is fun when ur good enough to not need chastise

[copper hawk]

this match made me lose my mind

in a good way

[gentle crag]

Is it just me or does ironhelm's empowered seem way stronger than crucius, even on carapace/unyielding?

[hard nexus]

scuuuunnneerrrr

[vague depot]

the cut off laugh got me

it got me bad

[copper hawk]

id follow around meow and make that stupid high pitch "scuuuunner" like her lost puppy

waving around my holy funko pop

[hard nexus]

they both should be about equal on ironhelm’s h3

i believe

[hard nexus]

it was very funny

[rotund shoal]

h3h3h3h3h3

[gentle crag]

On the H1/H2 it seems stronger?

[vestal pine]

yeah id' get annoyed at that too lol

[copper hawk]

that's the funny

[gentle crag]

How do you infinite chain H3?

[vestal pine]

you dont

[hard nexus]

it shouldn’t be? unless moment

[copper hawk]

tin

[hard nexus]

empower, push, heavy

do not push attack, but push then heavy

[copper hawk]

are u online

@south grove

noob

[gentle crag]

neat, ty

[vestal pine]

did they change nothing about ironhelm?

[gentle crag]

Ironhelm feels guuud

[vestal pine]

thats nice

[copper hawk]

i hate the ironhelm

[vestal pine]

ironhelm is very nice yea

[copper hawk]

it feels worthless to me now

[vestal pine]

why

[copper hawk]

now that crucis has a strikedown powered heavy

[hard nexus]

basically removed self stun

[vestal pine]

does crusis do better

[copper hawk]

yes

the one thing that i hated about the crucis is now part of the crucis

[vestal pine]

didnt ironhelm had like not much of that either

[copper hawk]

push heavy

[hard nexus]

the only thing crucius won’t do as well as an ironhelm is chaff clear

[copper hawk]

that's how you got the strikedown

[hard nexus]

other than that

[copper hawk]

and STILL how you get to the strikedown

[vestal pine]

im the guy who use H1 for all ironhelm emp on crusher so guess

[hard nexus]

they’re equal except crucius will do more damage

[copper hawk]

it better

nop

it better

9 morbillion time better

[vestal pine]

push, dont actually connect to the pushattack, and instead charge up heavy

[hard nexus]

[vestal pine]

normal IH strike deals like -25% of crusis

[copper hawk]

brb

[vestal pine]

the vertical one deals like -5%

i think

[copper hawk]

gonna ruin a match w my shitty book build

[vestal pine]

idk what would have changed on the new crusis's emp's heavy

god i forgot about s's again i forge tthat you can just write s' and it works

whatever anyway uh yeah that was before crusis getting revamped

i think crusis should deal a lot mroe damage now? idk

havent tested it after update

[copper hawk]

euuugh

it's train

EEUUUGH

[vestal pine]

also,

crusher exists still

ooh baby slap a slaughterer on the bad boy

[spare talon]

@copper hawk @hard nexus

[hard nexus]

OUGHHH

[spare talon]

ah my steam replay is fucking up

ill get more from that game later

[copper hawk]

wow we won

w randoms

[spare talon]

if it was auric

checks out

[copper hawk]

AEUGH

now i want 2 play ogryn

@hard nexus we need to ogryn

sometime

!

[cerulean moth]

what were u playing

[copper hawk]

zee lotte

[cerulean moth]

i just won with randoms too

[copper hawk]

zee lotte

Brynn-the-Felinid

dat me

[cerulean moth]

werent in mym match

sad!

[hard nexus]

soiiiiggh…

fiiiijee

we can tomorrow or somethin

[copper hawk]

YIP

YEE !

im playin ur build rn

[vague depot]

You done hit the 🥳🎉

[spare talon]

clutch with zed the ogryn commentary

[sour oxide]

what did I do?

[vague depot]

That is some insane attack speed wtf

[scenic dawn]

how is ur attack speed so fast?

[spare talon]

20% from fotf
10% from faithful frenzy

thats it

it could be faster if i was using IJ and not piety

[scenic dawn]

do it

[spare talon]

no i quite like my 92% crit chance

[abstract quail]

Were there any significant changes to zealot's meta apart from Invocation change?

[copper hawk]

moldy

[quiet berry]

what blessings should i use for devil claw

currently have savage sweep and rampage

[copper hawk]

rampage shred

this lets you use an ij build

which shores up the poor performance the dclaw has against armor

[quiet berry]

ij?

oh wait i have that build lol

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/cell-writing-blackbeard-writing-gif-5728066505004548744

Me figuring out the best way to develop my colonies in act 4

[scenic dawn]

this is the build im using currently

[copper hawk]

that's the build

[scenic dawn]

im quite enjoying it https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4fa304-0b88-4cf8-827a-d0435327a8c3/zealot-meta-no-stealth-unl-update

[copper hawk]

uncanny riposte,,

flakiac ds,,

not d4,,

ds4*

:<

[scenic dawn]

im actually using combat blade with bleed stacks blessings

[copper hawk]

:<<<<<

[scenic dawn]

its good

like 70% crit chance plus the bleed

wipes hordes

[sour oxide]

Young Padawan you have much to learn of the combat knife

[scenic dawn]

like what?

[sour oxide]

Leave the horde clear to the psykers we go for the big game lol

[scenic dawn]

i do

it 3 shots the big armored ogryns

(not fully leveled knife is why*

[frosty herald]

Uncanny fleshtearer

[rotund shoal]

suddenly

your opinion

makes complete sense

[sour oxide]

But yeah see the problem with running bleed is nothing survives the crit to apply the bleed in a horde in the first place. And non weakspot hits do less even with lacerate ticks vs 1 weakspot hit

[copper hawk]

@spare talon cole do u look down when u parry 2 hit the ehad

Head

W ur riposte

[scenic dawn]

i was using a stealth build with the knife, didnt like it, but i like the knife with this build

[copper hawk]

Right

[solar gorge]

get flesh tearer lacerate and start horde clearing with the knife..

it's what the goobernment is trying to prevent, u must do it

[rotund shoal]

yeah piety knife as i said. but honestly this build is ok but it makes a lot of mistakes

there is no need for the toughness node + restoring faith

that can be used for the last piety node

[sour oxide]

I’d run IJ over piety any day

[rotund shoal]

i have been converted

the fotf spam is really strong

[scenic dawn]

i was using IJ didnt like it with knife

[sour oxide]

Yeah you can have IJ with FOTF and crit cdr + backstab cdr

[rotund shoal]

you gotta sacrifice some stuff for it though

(just doing it in my head)

let me check

gotta sacrifice 2nd fotf charge but i guess thats fine

huh yea youre rright

[quiet berry]

i dont know what im doing wrong but devil claw still feels like a wet rag

[sour oxide]

Naw you can keep 2nd charge

[rotund shoal]

what do you drop?

[rotund shoal]

oh no second wind

i mean

thats a pretty big loss

id rather have second wind than 2 fotf charges

esp with 2 cdr nodes

[sour oxide]

fotf replenished 50% toughness

and its basically always up with the crit rate of the knife running riposte you make up your piety

[spare talon]

FUNNY TAXE

[rotund shoal]

thats 75% crit i believe

so do you run uncanny?

[sour oxide]

yesm

[rotund shoal]

70% crit actually

with piety knife u can go precog though for the finesse multiplier + 95% crit

[sour oxide]

uncanny since I am running throwing knives which turn them into missiles

[rotund shoal]

fair enough

[quiet berry]

do i just use the parry of devil claw a lot?

[rotund shoal]

coke

[spare talon]

@copper hawk @hard nexus
i got trapped and they couldnt get a rez off in time so i died
then got this

[quiet berry]

way ahead of you

[sour oxide]

lol

yeeeeet

[sour oxide]

that an mk7?

[spare talon]

mk2

[quiet berry]

okay just one shot a rager with the parry

hmm

[frozen kernel]

Zed has spirit

I respect that

[copper hawk]

i love zed

COLE

when u parry things

do u look down to land the parry

or up

[spare talon]

depends on where their head will be

crushers head will be down on an overhead

youll be aiming up against plague ogryns typically

etc

[copper hawk]

im so bad at parrying

[spare talon]

im actually amazed

what are the chances i find this guy again

literally months later

this guy was lvl 24 when i first saw him

then i found him again at lvl 37

what the FUCK

[copper hawk]

since i keep fucking up parries

i wont play ij for now

my dclaw talent set up until i can git gud

[scenic dawn]

you sure its the same guy?

[spare talon]

absolutely

[spare talon]

#gameplay-help message

listen to these

[quiet berry]

okay i am starting to get it with the devil claw

[spare talon]

then listen to the ones i posted above

[quiet berry]

which mk do you guys use

[spare talon]

same name, same border, same weapon choice, same ogryn voice, same irl voice

[copper hawk]

the vii

i use the vii anyways

marty dclaw is actually kinda nice

[spare talon]

i use the mk4

but pref between mk4 and mk7 is just personal

[copper hawk]

wtff..

[spare talon]

mk1 is the one that just bad lmao

[copper hawk]

is there anything different between the 4 and the 7

like in terms of damage

or is it just moveset

[spare talon]

nope

[copper hawk]

huh

[spare talon]

just moveset

[copper hawk]

what's the horde clear combo for the 4

[spare talon]

literally the inverse

light>heavy>loop

im starting to really enjoy this build

[ember yew]

BM + Lights

[spare talon]

they meant dclaw

[ember yew]

i was thinking tax

[spare talon]

therefore you are WRONG

[ember yew]

BM for Dclaw when

Uncanny also

[spare talon]

when fatshark lets us have fun

[ember yew]

Uncanny Dclaw gonna be zer gut tier

[spare talon]

the parry adms against carapace is one of my 13 reasons

[scenic dawn]

jesus enemy health is so much more on Damnation compared to heresy

[spare talon]

That's why it's used as the standard

Cuz any important breakpoints on damnation will apply to anything below

For weapon/buildcrafting

[scenic dawn]

personally id prefer more enemies instead of artificial difficulty through making enemies spongy

[spare talon]

In a game like this it's hardly artificial difficulty

[ember yew]

they are pretty oneshotty tbh

[spare talon]

The enemy you need to kill is alive longer
Meaning you have to know how to avoid damage for longer periods

[ember yew]

instead of making them HP spongy they increased the spawns/amount of them

[copper hawk]

I HATE POXWALKERS

I HATE THEM SO MUCH

WHY DO THEY HAVE MASS ????

THEYRE ZOMBIES

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-darktide-explode-warhammer-40k-gif-7567690485009069789

[spare talon]

Plus if you look at auric
The game engine is actually tearing at the seams

[quiet berry]

the ahrdest part of dclaw is getting your negative iq team members to not keep attacking what you want to kil with parry

[spare talon]

They are at their limit in terms how how much they can spawn there

[scenic dawn]

i like the way helldivers does difficulty.. instead of enemy health being changed the higher the diff, they just throw tons more elites and chaff at you

[scenic dawn]

fuck poxbombers

[acoustic dune]

ey ey gyattlot

[spare talon]

Helldivers also doesn't have variable stats, damage buffs, crits, etc

[acoustic dune]

how is it rizzling

[rotund shoal]

fwiw i would like a mode with malice/heresy enemy damage and health but auric level horde spawns

[acoustic dune]

why would it have crit

[rotund shoal]

for when i feel like mindlessly slashing through hordes

[scenic dawn]

I WOULD LOVE THAT

[rotund shoal]

theres 21st moebian now which is pretty close

[spare talon]

That would be piss easy

[scenic dawn]

wdym?

[rotund shoal]

yeah as i said not for difficulty

[spare talon]

Fair

[spare talon]

Erm that modifier is gone

[rotund shoal]

its a modifier which adds large amounts of flak armored enemies

[scenic dawn]

i just like the power fantasy of killing hordes of thousands of enemies

[rotund shoal]

its still in solo play i believe

[spare talon]

That replaces the horde ones

[scenic dawn]

which is why i mainly stick to malice and heresy

[rotund shoal]

yeah it is

[quiet berry]

was*

[long kelp]

What is the highest % crit a zealot can get ?

[quiet berry]

:(

[rotund shoal]

100% from fotf and 95% on normal attacks

[long kelp]

Could u show me a build to get to that plz ?

[rotund shoal]

do you have a weapon in mind?

or do you just want most crit?

(not all weapons are crit weapons since their crit damage may only be slightly higher than normal dmg)

in general you just want scourge (up to 30% crit by hitting bleeding enemies, deteriorates quickly) + piety (25% crit when up, on higher difficulties its basically 100% up) + whatever blessings your weapon has that add crit (such as riposte which adds 20% on dodge)

zealot has a base crit rate of 5%

like veteran

[scenic dawn]

Warframe intensifies

[rotund shoal]

relatively high overlap in player pops lol

[scenic dawn]

Slightly random but if you think about it one of our characters probably has more kills than a space marine by the time they reach level 30

[rotund shoal]

some peoples characters have millions of kills

single handedly making a dent in a hive city

[scenic dawn]

Yeah we are normal humans taking on hordes of enemies that would probably give space marines a run for their money

Fucking voice to text..

[copper hawk]

mulchcore animal

[rotund shoal]

I LOVE MULCH

ITS WHAT KEEPS ME GOING

[copper hawk]

so uh

i accidentally used the dclaw in a build w/o thy wrath be swift

and it actually wasn't bad

i got lucky i guess

[drifting wolf]

society if helldivers optimization didn't shit itself after the first few updates

[copper hawk]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iRYKzkBNZWdlVpjHv?invite=cr-MSxzQmIsMjA0MjU2ODk0LA

i did it,,

i think i might keep using my fucked up marty build w dclaw

cuz it gives me like

150 tness

but no thy wrath be swift is heby,,

[rotund shoal]

i was told yesterday this is what living in cali is like

[placid fiber]

"And this, my good sir, is what it looks like when your income is too high." -some middle class mofo

https://tenor.com/view/telmo-coca-harina-raquetaso-esnifar-gif-25660568

[rotund shoal]

thats robin williams

[placid fiber]

Oh wait I got a better one

[placid fiber]

"How it feels to chew 5stim"

[acoustic dune]

ey phil

what

[rotund shoal]

both of those quotes are older than some people in this chat lol

[acoustic dune]

eh

whats trollin

[long kelp]

I like eviscerator

[rotund shoal]

bad choice my friend. not weapons wise (its a fun weapon) but for a crit weapon yes. take a look at the damage table: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/heavy-eviscerator/tigrus-mk-ii-heavy-eviscerator
and you can see the crit damage is not much higher

is there some reason you want high crit specifically? is it to proc invocation of death for cdr? or enduring faith for toughness DR?

[shy kestrel]

The pain...

Just 2% off

[placid fiber]

I mean... So far: Batman, Pheonix Wright, AND Bowser

[long kelp]

Just a simple question. For crit build which weapons are good ?

[placid fiber]

I beat agahnim with all 3 of em @acoustic dune

[rotund shoal]

any weapon that has a finesse stat

[acoustic dune]

batman?

[spiral tulip]

Anyone got a martyrdom build I could use?

[placid fiber]

I have like 400 skins I can choose from for my 9 choices(and I can change them out whenever I want)

[long kelp]

Good. Ty

[rotund shoal]

tac axe, chain sword, devil claw, knife, dueling sword

heavy sword was popular before the invocation of death change

[acoustic dune]

can you choose by random?

[rotund shoal]

i think its still good but i dont play heavy sword

[placid fiber]

No since I have to manually go in and copy past the file into the character slot

[long kelp]

Could u show me a chainsword crit build ? What it looks like ? If u got a moment i mean

[acoustic dune]

sad

[placid fiber]

I gotta copy 1 of these(left pic) and paste them in one of the 9 slots(right pic)

[rotund shoal]

yeh ill make one quick

[placid fiber]

What I'm gonna do is find all different link skins and put them in all 9 slots for the lulz lol

[acoustic dune]

tell me how that goes

[placid fiber]

I'll show you in a minute lol

[placid fiber]

See? lol

[acoustic dune]

is that irt-ecrof

[placid fiber]

I recorded it as the opening cutscene played and showed you the 9 skins I have currently

[acoustic dune]

oh its a vid

[placid fiber]

Minished cap link, modern link, bavarian link, cdi link, cool 90's link, dark link, hero of awakening link(I think the 4th zelda link), headless link, and santa link

[acoustic dune]

i was gonna ask why is one headless

[placid fiber]

I'm probably gonna play headless or dark link lol

[acoustic dune]

do the middle one

[drifting wolf]

not accurate unless they're actively developing lung cancer from breathing in cali air or dying from heatstroke

[acoustic dune]

he look kool

[placid fiber]

cool 90's link? Okay

[light basin]

I was using the mk4 dueling sword a lot. I decided to try the mkV and I liked even more.

[acoustic dune]

does he get a cool sword

or weapon

[placid fiber]

Which starting bonus?

[acoustic dune]

what would be the 90s choice

[placid fiber]

It only replaces the character model, not the sword's or shield's model(it does affect the tunic model since that affects the character model, but, not for every single skin)

[placid fiber]

Probably money or drugs

[acoustic dune]

drugs

do drugs

[placid fiber]

There aren't any drug options

[drifting wolf]

are there any potions

[acoustic dune]

wahts the closest thing to drug

first go 100 rupees

[placid fiber]

the antidote is more on the cure drugs side of things, so kinda the polar opposite

[rotund shoal]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d3c241c-4751-4a51-abce-821c2c0c0d35/chainsword-crit-sedition-ready

[light basin]

Os stalwart really good and has a hidden effect of restoring toughness?

[drifting wolf]

antidote and fire orbs will work as drugs

[acoustic dune]

8 fire orbs?

or rod of stone

[placid fiber]

Stone it is I guess lol

[drifting wolf]

rodland of stones

[acoustic dune]

tf is the stone

[placid fiber]

It turns enemies to stone

including beamos statues

[acoustic dune]

and the fire orbs?

[placid fiber]

just aoe fire explosion taht only kills normal enemies

1 time use for each 1

[acoustic dune]

oh

stone them

[placid fiber]

the rod you can recharge

for magic

at a rod restoring pedistal

[acoustic dune]

i demand you find more stone

n more stone

and stone your enemy harder

[placid fiber]

Welp, here I got xD

[placid fiber]

I mean I"m only gonna stone problematic enemies <.<

wasting it on the 2 hit guys is well... a waste xD

[acoustic dune]

give them those medusa stare

and call them uncool

while you stone them

this is not a request

[copper hawk]

1 sec

[acoustic dune]

AH A TWINK

[placid fiber]

This is a roguelike so sometimes you might not even see a rod restoring pedistal until the rogue village >.>

[acoustic dune]

well you know my stance

get me a min of 200

[placid fiber]

There are also curses... like your hearts slowly drain, picking up hearts hurts you, picking up rupees gives no rupees, shops won't sell you items, shops sell items at the max price, double magic consumed, tougher enemies(more damage and hp), etc <.<

Starting on the 2nd floor opening a chest can have a curse

[acoustic dune]

oof

[placid fiber]

The worst are no money, shops not selling, tougher enemies, and picking up hearts hurts you

[serene shell]

zealot stun crit penance:
so how do I make it easier to actually crit things when I stun them.
crits are specifically random no?

[placid fiber]

they made it so the heart drain won't go past 2 hearts iirc

[copper hawk]

@long kelp

[placid fiber]

There's also 1 guaranteed secret room on floor 1, and 2 on floors 2+... and they don't have to be a walk through wall or bombable wall as the case for this 1st floor

And the chests in secret rooms(starting on floor 2) can curse you... as well as the ones sold by shop keepers, and the ones given by kinstones

[rotund shoal]

going ij instead of piety is certainly fine but wrath over rampage?

36% power is a lot

[copper hawk]

silly

[acoustic dune]

well tell me before you get in the boss room then

[copper hawk]

wrath and shred are bis for this chord

[acoustic dune]

i am eating chili pasta right now

its

[copper hawk]

the damage is done with finesse crits

[acoustic dune]

wack

[copper hawk]

as teh mg12 has higher finesse damage

it also doesn't drop off between cleave targets

[rotund shoal]

i dont play chsword so i wont argue but that surprises me

[copper hawk]

a crit hit on one target does all that damage to multiple targets

yeah

it's unique with just the chords

[long kelp]

So which one is good for crit chainsword ?

[placid fiber]

There's 4 bosses: the 1st 3 bosses from a link to the past(but they do more damage, have more hp, and move faster n stuff) and then agahnim as the final boss... who destroys all of your items and weapons <.<'

[copper hawk]

rampage doesn't provice enough cleave

provide*

[rotund shoal]

go for @copper hawk build he plays it more

[copper hawk]

wrath + shred chord has the fastest horde clear actually

of any weapon in the game

[acoustic dune]

last one is gonna crack all the stone?

[placid fiber]

The 1st boss isn't until the end of floor 3

[acoustic dune]

its so joever

[placid fiber]

I mean assuming I don't need to drop the rod after I've used all charges due to inventory management(I'll try my damnest not to have to, since you had me pick that for my starter thing)

[placid fiber]

armor upgrades, the shield, bombs, and arrows all take up inventory slots <.<

[copper hawk]

the 13g

[acoustic dune]

only get the basin

stone rod

[rotund shoal]

post the talent tree too

[acoustic dune]

and more stone rod

[rotund shoal]

cuz you posted two

bit confusing

[acoustic dune]

and bombs

[copper hawk]

all acceptable

zarona with those blessings/perks for the chord's weaknesses

dealing with armor

piety isn't required because crits from shred

[placid fiber]

Well if you get another of the item that you already have(or of the final sword/armor/shield upgrade) it does nothing and you get nothing

[copper hawk]

i've sorta fallen in love with stalwart lately

with my other silly piety build

[acoustic dune]

damn

thats sadge

[rotund shoal]

is 25% crit really enough to start the scourge cascade?

[copper hawk]

yep

[rotund shoal]

huh

i guess cuz horde

[quiet finch]

oi my fellow zealots got a question for y'all do y'all think Auxiliary Grenade Launcher should be added to darktide

[copper hawk]

i think the chord has a higher base crit chance as well

plus the crit boost from scourge

that's like

[solar gorge]

no

[copper hawk]

30%, 25%

[placid fiber]

That only happens(99% of the time), tho, when you get that item from the 2 gems you throw in the zora pond

[copper hawk]

chance is additive i think

yes

it's additive

so with scourge (3 stacks) and shred gives you 55% crit chance

[quiet finch]

why not whats you're reasoning behind it?

i mean there in the lore would be an awesome addition to darktide

[rotund shoal]

doesnt have higher base crit it seems

[acoustic dune]

i dont get it but yay

[rotund shoal]

only knife does?

[copper hawk]

what about taxe?

[rotund shoal]

yes

was just testing

15.80%???

wtf

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[rotund shoal]

knife is 20% (with zel base)

[copper hawk]

holy shit

taxe g g g

GOATED !?

ok so

60% crit chance on max stacks

w shred stacks and scourge

so u dont need piety

[solar gorge]

i don't trust fs to not make it broken

[quiet finch]

use the ogryn nade launcher as a balancing template

[solar gorge]

ok so it'll be shit instead

great

[spare dome]

rumbler deffo aint shit

[copper hawk]

grumbler

[solar gorge]

it's boring

goober weapon

just in the game so my glue eating ogryn teammate can scatter mobs all over the place for no reason

[quiet finch]

rumbler isnt overpowered its in a good place right now and a underbarrel nade launcher attachment wouldn't be that bad of an idea

[solar gorge]

it's aggressively mid

[placid fiber]

Apparently the game likes cool 90's link with a starting stone rod... cause I already have the level 3 sword <.<

[acoustic dune]

its his rizz

and his (stone rods) energy

[spare dome]

i think an underbarrel would be conceptually fun but practically it would actually be mid as fuck because it's one component of what is effectively two guns put together

and balancing that appropriately, i dont see happening

[copper hawk]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d3c2cd4-d6f8-4016-9bbf-da1f2fa672b9/chainsword-horde-chummer

[tame mirage]

what about the CHAXE THOOO?

[rotund shoal]

more importantly

playing with a rumbler ogryn is fkin annoying

[copper hawk]

i fixed the build

i added more description

[rotund shoal]

everythings on the ground with like half hp cant hit weakspots

cant oneshot either cuz explosion doesnt deal enough dmg for that

at least kickback deletes them so u dont have to worry about them

[long kelp]

Cool build, but just to be sure. That’s not a crit build right ?

[placid fiber]

Welp, I'm about to go into the 1st boss <.<

[rotund shoal]

its very much a crit build

scourge + invocation of death

• enduring faith

tells you that

[long kelp]

Despite going IJ ?

[rotund shoal]

(+ the crit blessing)

[rotund shoal]

yes thats what we were discussing above

[long kelp]

Oh right thx i ll read carefully

[rotund shoal]

IJ is better than piety overall and a preferred pick, you only go piety if you have to generally

you can make a crit build without piety

[placid fiber]

God that was sloppy lol

[rotund shoal]

@backup

[quiet finch]

https://tenor.com/view/sloppy-joe-lady-dancing-dance-dancing-sloppy-joe-day-gif-16618776

[placid fiber]

@acoustic dune These were the results

Absolute slop fest halfway into the fight :/

[gray bobcat]

whats the dump stat for flamers?

[placid fiber]

damage/mobility

[acoustic dune]

omg gore

also i am guessing this is a fan game

and not nitendo game

[copper hawk]

damage

unironically

the damage stat doesnt change when it's high or low

all damage that the flamer does is from the Burn stat, which dictates how many stacks of Burning an enemy will take

it needs to be 76% or higher to get the last stack of Burn, which does the most damage

[placid fiber]

It's a link to the past made into a free to play roguelike, yes

Fanmade <.<

Armos statues aren't that tough in a link to the past... they move at like half the speed and do half the damage

[gray bobcat]

ohh so damage is the dump stat and flamer mostly relies on burn stacks for it's DoT?

[copper hawk]

only relies on burn stacks

the damage is like

idk even know what it means

it's always like 22 at 0% or 80%

and burn stacks do increasingly higher damage the more an enemy is engulfed in flames

so yah the damage is ONLY done through DoT

it's the same for Purg staff too

although the way the Purg stacks burn is a bit different, since it's Soulblaze

and has a max set of stacks of I think 6? that you can apply to an enemy with the staff

you can use the "light things on fire when you do your venting shriek at high peril" at like 90% peril to go past the stack limit though

up to like 16 stacks of soulblaze, which will melt bosses

but yah - to answer ur question, damage is the dump stat. it does nothing

[rotund shoal]

15 for purgatus

[copper hawk]

the two most important stats are burn (HAS to be 76%, if it's below 76% it's worthless)

[rotund shoal]

6 is for blazing blessing on trauma

[copper hawk]

and cloud radius i guess

[copper hawk]

ohg

[rotund shoal]

and also the amount applied by venting shriek

however venting shriek cap is actually 31

[copper hawk]

i hate psyker so

i dont CARE that im wrong,,

HATE psyker

hate hate hate,,

[hearty nebula]

venting shart

[copper hawk]

blehs at u so hard the world splits in two

[hearty nebula]

also haii

[copper hawk]

henlo bumpy weird

[hearty nebula]

shur up

UR bumpy weird

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/923847030500114432/1293809874786058322/186e337415a516434-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[coarse birch]

i think surge has one but i forget

its not a ton of weapons

[rotund shoal]

force swords also

[copper hawk]

never knew the taxe had higher crit chance

[coarse birch]

knife is the notable one at 15% which gets you to like 80% crit chance on zealot

[copper hawk]

you might be able to get away just like not even running piety w the taxe

with scourge maybe,,

does the dclaw have an inherent crit chance?

i imagine not

[coarse birch]

probs not

[rotund shoal]

no

tested it b4

[coarse birch]

its a bit weird

they kinda just pick w/e crit weapons to give it to lol

not all of them

[stone fern]

i tried the chocoB build for thammer that doesnt use TWBS

[coarse birch]

knife makes sense 15% is dumb though

[stone fern]

i am NOT that guy

[mint brook]

revolver does the most damage with a single shot from right tree correct?

for ranged damage i mean

just hard to gage cause of say last pistols weakspot damage increase and all that

[rotund shoal]

zarona does the most damage per single shot in the game

(crit weakspot)

[coarse birch]

good thing its precise and has no pen to compensate

[mint brook]

crit damage sucks right?

for hte revolver

[coarse birch]

yeah

[rotund shoal]

the perk? yea

[coarse birch]

if you mean the perk

it sucks for everything

[gray bobcat]

what perks/blessings do people use for flamers?

[mint brook]

yeah for the refinment

[hearty nebula]

[mint brook]

ok and hand cannon and hipfire, solid choices?

[hearty nebula]

no

[rotund shoal]

hand cannon/surgical

[hearty nebula]

yeah that

i forgor second perkname

[rotund shoal]

this ones basically objectively true

[mint brook]

huh ... why isnt hipfire good?

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789005203327287309/994547587900264529/291516791_160696843197333_986296292745729555_n.mp4?ex=670cef9e&is=670b9e1e&hm=e0a2cf2c1b0daaefff39cd693a2a7bcdf1fb51c866301248fbfa4b6e0c59045d&

[rotund shoal]

surgical is just amazing

10% crit per 0.3seconds

[mint brook]

i mean with sprint counts as dodging + hipfire, couldnt you become unkillable?

[copper hawk]

surgical hand cannon

[rotund shoal]

thats beyond insane

on a weapon whose damage is literally increased by more than 2x on crits

[copper hawk]

i come from the weapon philosophy of that certain weapons are designed for one specific purpose

or they're designed to do something different than other weapons

[mint brook]

huh ... fair enough

[rotund shoal]

that node doesnt do what you think it does

[copper hawk]

and you should instead lean into these strengths instead of trying to mitigate them to be a sort of generalist

[mint brook]

what you mean 😮

[copper hawk]

or make them into something that compliments osmething else

something*

[rotund shoal]

it only works if you move parallel to the bullets

if you run straight at them

[copper hawk]

so you want to lean into handcannon

[rotund shoal]

it doesnt do anything

[copper hawk]

it obliterates everything

[mint brook]

...what ...

[copper hawk]

you need crit for it to work

[rotund shoal]

yap

[tame mirage]

❤️

kitty..

[rotund shoal]

swift certainty is more or less useless

[hearty nebula]

the whole point of the zarona is to just one-shot enemies with headshots basically

[mint brook]

thats bs, the belssing LITERALLY want you to be close up and personel, but it doesnt work running at the enemy to do that increase damage?

[hearty nebula]

unless you mean the agri variant in which case stop using it

[mint brook]

yeah okay nvm, that blessing is a waste

[copper hawk]

yeah

zealot is kinda in a rough spot compared to other characters

all the other trees have received reworks

ogryn, psyker, veteran twice

all we got was nerfs

our tree is due for a rework

[rotund shoal]

reminder that swift certainty was nerfed last patch

[copper hawk]

if you notice with the top players here, you tend to see like the same fucking build every single time

[rotund shoal]

[copper hawk]

yeah

[hearty nebula]

Remove stealth zealot

[copper hawk]

zealot is in a desperate need of a rework/buff

to the talents anyways

[stone fern]

so tru so tru

buff zealot

i cant clear uprising

[copper hawk]

about 65% are good talents, but more than half of those talents have a massive point tax or are separated for no reason

[mint brook]

i mean imo martyrdome needs a squish, so that you only need 5 stacks and maybe increase damage against burning enemies? Idk, would make the flame nade more interesting i suppose, something, also, make the damage taken = cd talent do "per wound missing, gain +x % cooldown regen or something

[copper hawk]

where vet gets a melee/crit tree that has all his melee and crit related nodes right next to eachother

[stone fern]

i agree about tax points

[copper hawk]

or vet getting all his sustain

like his BEST sustain

FOUR POINTS from one another

tness and tness reduction on headshot

tness on dead elite

all right fuckin there

[hearty nebula]

yep lol

[mint brook]

it is kinda insane yeah xD

[copper hawk]

imagine if second wind and ewew were all right next to eachother

[mint brook]

becoming unkillable by any amount of shooter spam is wild

[copper hawk]

you can take both and it'd be totally fine

[rotund shoal]

tbf on vet the combo everyone does is confirmed kill + iron will

[copper hawk]

vet is so fucking broken man

zealot got power crept like crazy

[tame mirage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1257886415010660365/1268765343418028204/soundthecaralarm.gif

[copper hawk]

so yah what john is sayin is true

sc just doesnt work

[rotund shoal]

i mean i was playing with xevra before knife zealot and knife vet

on zealot he got 100k more dmg

on veteran 200k

lol

[copper hawk]

65% of the talents are good, 25% of the other talents are awful and almost totally worthless/provide nothing of value, and the last 10% are talents that dont work as advertised

or dont work at all

the melee frontliner class has no brittleness talent

:>

kyaaa

latenight black pills about roundfish

[hearty nebula]

its funny though cause zealot is still basically the only class i've seen one-shotting bosses

like the others can melt bosses sure but zealot has the easiest time doing it imo

[copper hawk]

with some set up yeah

and in baby mode

cole does a lot of malice/heresy gameplay and he one shots bosses there

[hearty nebula]

yeah if you flub the setup you're kind of fucked

[copper hawk]

one shot used to be possible with the thammer in normal gameplay

no longer

now we just melt bosses

like everyone else

veteran doesnt one shot bosses but can melt them

and can 2 shot crushers with a rashad with TWO talents

someone get the clip,,

[hearty nebula]

and psyker has always been a pretty good glass cannon from what i seen

and idk about ogryn because it's boring asf to play so idc about it

[copper hawk]

ogryn i think is the most balanced class in the game

in terms of the roles that ogryn fills and how well ogryn does them

and how an ogryn interacts with the rest of the game

[rotund shoal]

car sales pickaxe go brrr

[copper hawk]

yep

[rotund shoal]

destroys all

[hearty nebula]

yeah it's not bad i just don't like it

[copper hawk]

kills everything

[hearty nebula]

that's literally it

[copper hawk]

but it sucks at horde clear if you lean into one shot crusher build

it's a gimmick

a vet can two shot crushers and nullify hordes ez pz w a rashad

to not include shit like plasma or bolter on vet

ogryn primaries do fuck all in comparison

kickback kills a bunch of shit but takes forever to reload and suffers against armor

plasma cleave go brr

bye bye mixed horde

im meowlding

it bedtime 4 me

https://tenor.com/view/i-sleep-i-am-sleeping-goodnight-gn-izutsumi-gif-13731125424926383905

[rotund shoal]

mfw i didnt sleep

[copper hawk]

lmfao

NOOOB

lol u think i'd fall for the big ENG in ur windows 11 bar

yah ur TOTALLY english

astaghfirullah..

[tight oak]

who has the MM/DD/YY and not DD/MM/YY

[rotund shoal]

i tried switching it to remove the french keyboard

[copper hawk]

french.

BLEH

[hushed knoll]

Le fish au chocolat

[placid fiber]

Welp... wannabe zeldor came in clutch this time... Now I'm both immune to curses and I have the highest level tunic :3

Speaking of which... I haven't even gotten a single curse this run yet... which is very odd since I'm already on floor 7 :\

Also: Still got that starting stone rod, Knify. It was at 1 charge, but, I just recharged it as much as I could. @acoustic dune

[acoustic dune]

only 9?

damn

[acoustic dune]

why do you have a french keyboard

[rotund shoal]

I DONT KNOW

I CANT REMOVE IT

I TRIED REGEDIT

CANT FIND IT

[acoustic dune]

what do you mean you cant remove it?

[rotund shoal]

its not there

its also not here

it just.. appeared there

after cica called me french

[acoustic dune]

pff unlike you

mine doesnt have french

[rotund shoal]

HA

[placid fiber]

That means I've used it 15 times and recharged 8 charges

[cerulean moth]

gunzeaot coough cough

[rotund shoal]

fr*nch

[placid fiber]

I save the stone rod for beamos statues or anti-faires so I can kill them when I don't have the blood sword(lvl 5 sword) yet

[acoustic dune]

why do i have like 3 different english

[acoustic dune]

neat

[hearty nebula]

Fr*nch

[stone fern]

bro speaks gleep Blrobp

[hearty nebula]

real

[hushed knoll]

Clad what

[acoustic dune]

fait chier

[hushed knoll]

You need to sit down

[copper hawk]

Noobs

[acoustic dune]

anyhow imma darktidde

anyone up for some match?

[rotund shoal]

playing fall guys with my lil bro lol

[copper hawk]

Meeee

Im up

SIIIIIIIIIKE

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-13399313231964052110

you cant play me like that man

[placid fiber]

Welp, I'm about to go extreminate some overgrown baby... uh... google says the tremor worms are called "graboids"... but yeah, gonna extreminate the 3 of em <.<

[cerulean moth]

kill children

[acoustic dune]

worm

[placid fiber]

I mean if I have the rod of wealth or hearts I can turn the cuckoos in the rebel village into money/hearts... and if I use the powder on them it turns them into rats... otherwise the closest you get to that in this game is when u give the letter from the old man on floor 3 to the dying girl in the rebel village(who gives you her life savings before reading the letter before offing the mortal coil)

[cerulean moth]

nope

kill children

[placid fiber]

Hm... do the baby crabs count? :3

[spice flame]

what changes should I make to these weapons? Should I swirch mk too on some?

[placid fiber]

Also, technically speaking, isn't everything technically the children of something else(which, by extention, allows me to do what ur telling me to)?

[hearty nebula]

no

kill children

[cerulean moth]

Kill.

Children.

[placid fiber]

I did that in ror1

[copper hawk]

Changes to both

Shock maul is high volt and skull crusher

[hearty nebula]

dump mobility and defences

[copper hawk]

The other mark is objectively better

[hearty nebula]

[copper hawk]

Faster more damage

[placid fiber]

That's where you say "Yes! I killed enough childs to get the monster log! ... ... wait..."

[copper hawk]

The other, hs

9 is fine

All heavy swords the dump stat is defences

Flakiac

(Flak maniac)

[hearty nebula]

flakiac

[copper hawk]

Drop savage sweep for headtaker

[hearty nebula]

freakiac...

[placid fiber]

Oh wait: Technically the parents, in ror, are actually the babies. So I have done that in every ror game a ton

[copper hawk]

You get cleave from deathblow

By doing heavies over and over with the IX

[cerulean moth]

FOR FUCKS SAKE MAN

JUST KILL KIDS

[copper hawk]

It decapitates enemi3s

[cerulean moth]

JUST KILL THEMM

[placid fiber]

b-but... I'm all out of goats...

[hearty nebula]

cica

[copper hawk]

Flakiac for smaul (shock maul) too

[placid fiber]

[cerulean moth]

HUMAN

HUMAN CHILDREN

[hearty nebula]

whats ur next animal

u were ouppy b4

now ur car

[copper hawk]

Probably ouppy

[hearty nebula]

wrong u are now worm

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/crispytyph-crispytyph-die-lit-typh-die-lit-gif-2570713331010160943

[placid fiber]

... there aren't any in zelda... there's hylians and gerudo peeps... but no regular humies

[copper hawk]

This is me btw

If u even care

[cerulean moth]

WHAT THE FUCK

ARE YOU EVEN ON ABOUT

[hearty nebula]

same

[spice flame]

this one yes?

[copper hawk]

Yup !

Horde clear combo is heavy light repeat

[cerulean moth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/900560701410664558/901977729145126992/get_real.gif?ex=670d0278&is=670bb0f8&hm=98ba9583b6807860d3ed239d70cef82768260ce8d3aa494f002bed9ca4be6f27&

[placid fiber]

I'm playing a free to play fan made a link to the past roguelike

[copper hawk]

Single target is just repeating overhead heavies

Dump stat for all weapons is mobility/defences

[placid fiber]

Also I didn't get any sleep last night x.x

[cerulean moth]

ur a dumbstat

[copper hawk]

The IX is Deathblow + Headtaker with flakiac

[cerulean moth]

whore

[copper hawk]

Shock maul is high voltage and skullcrusher

[placid fiber]

Nah, that's an insult to dumb people to call me that. I'm beneath them.

😏

[copper hawk]

All the heavy swords use the same blessings and perks

[hushed knoll]

Freak don’t be mean

[cerulean moth]

shut up dumpass

[copper hawk]

As in the best ones are deathblow and headtaker

[hearty nebula]

i need to try heavy swords still tbh

[placid fiber]

Sorry, I think I'm a bit more trolly when I'm sleep deprived x.x

[cerulean moth]

https://tenor.com/view/how-about-i-kill-you-how-about-it-kill-you-instead-fucking-die-gif-25365917

[hushed knoll]

This is rude

Someone needs to teach you manners young man

What

[cerulean moth]

What

[rotund shoal]

Gay.mp4

[cerulean moth]

You didnt get to watch it all

i decided you weren't allowed to

[hearty nebula]

i don't need to watch a video of myself

[paper harness]

Not true

[placid fiber]

I hath succeeded... x.x

[paper harness]

6 and 7 don’t need Deathblow

9 does

[cerulean moth]

rending talent

[paper harness]

Rampage p nice

[cerulean moth]

agree

[spice flame]

which flamer is better

[cerulean moth]

Honestly as long as you have burn up there its ok

[rotund shoal]

2ND

[spice flame]

or is burn too high? I heard the damage is worse if it i's above 76 but idk

[cerulean moth]

never heard that

[spice flame]

is BA/IB still best for flamer?

[violet hornet]

Never was lol

[rotund shoal]

max burn stacks at 76

anything above doesnt matter

but 80 isnt worse than 76 lol

[solar gorge]

this is horrible

[violet hornet]

Blaze away + penetrating flame for anti armor, blaze away + overpressure for general use

[spice flame]

I've never heard anyone use overpressure

[violet hornet]

It was bugged before the latest patch so people were using quick flame instead

[spice flame]

penetrating flame is new blessing?

[violet hornet]

Yep new blessing giving armor pen for continued fire iirc

It can help clear out crusher squads since fotf no longer applies ranged armor downgrading

[cerulean moth]

It gives brittleness more specifcally so it even helps da whole teamm

[violet hornet]

Ublock origin is dead, millions must Firefox

[spice flame]

what's the advantage of using overpressure over pen. flames?

Armor damage is very cool

[acoustic dune]

did you outworm

[violet hornet]

Overpressure just gives more general damage at the start of your clip so it's a quicker kill on unarmored targets, might make a difference if you're backed up against a horde you need to clear

[rotund shoal]

takes 2 clips to kill crusher

mags

whatevs

ink cartridges

[violet hornet]

Can also help conserve ammo since you're usually starting a flamer clip at full and it does more damage there

[acoustic dune]

can someone help me with these?

[blissful frigate]

be wary about the inserting all samples within 5 seconds or whatever it says, thats a lie

not even a full second of leeway, 3 people have to insert them at almost the exact same time

[glossy gust]

do you think reinstalling the game can help? :c

[spice flame]

these off yellow things in the bar is very confusing

it was easier before the update

[rotund shoal]

you go to hadron

you click empower

and after you pay enough plasteel and diamentes

and ordos

the small numbers become the big ones

[spice flame]

but I made my weapon transcended and the numbers are same

and if I press empower the numbers will be better but only with like 1%

[tame mirage]

do it more

and more

and more

left is what it IS

right is what it CAN BE

[spice flame]

can only do it once?

[acoustic dune]

how much diamentes do you have

[rotund shoal]

the power level now is not related to perks or blessings

just stat

[spice flame]

25k

[rotund shoal]

you can do it until your weapon becomes 500

if your weapon is 370 for example you need to do it 13 times

[spice flame]

ye it's 500

[rotund shoal]

cuz you get 10 power per upgrade

post it

[rotund shoal]

its not this one then?

[spice flame]

no

well I have only done this once and that's on a psyker staff

still this new crafting system is so confusing

bomb the screen with numbers

I liked it how it was before

except w the locks

[rotund shoal]

you can now get a godroll in like 20 rolls from the shop

ive gotten many first roll godrolls

id previously rolled literally hundreds of weapons

without a godroll

[spice flame]

it's easier to get god rolls now?

[rotund shoal]

its literally 100x easier

[spice flame]

and I am not educated in what stats are dump stats and so on

[rotund shoal]

mobility on almost all weapons

[spice flame]

so 80 on everything except mobility

that seems low odds

[rotund shoal]

no

the rng is made in such a way

that is very very common

ive gotten it on first rolls 2-3 times now

and its never taken me more than 15 weapons to get it

(some people have said its taken them 50 times)

but once again i used to roll hundreds of weapons and not see a single godroll

so the new system is way way wayyy better

[stone fern]

real

[acoustic dune]

watch it disapear

[spice flame]

I spent like 70k before the update to get them t4 blessings

[acoustic dune]

was it worth it?

[spice flame]

no

everyone said that the blessings would carry over

so I was bamboozled

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-fiddle-gif-7996278

[dark spire]

It's so good, imagine how well received the game would be with this kind of system on launch.

[placid fiber]

@acoustic dune Welp, Knify, I just made it to the doorway to agahnim. Time to probably blank his attacks and die miserably >_>'

Nevermind I won again, this was my 4th win

So far each time I have won I have averaged 2 hours and 45 minutes(not counting the time I had the game paused while I played my phone game for a few hours) >_>'

I kept that Stone Rod until the very end... up until agahnim stole my items and weapons and then vaporized them <.<'

Time to take a break from that, with some Darktide. >;3

[tame mirage]

there was Plasma AND a DS4

lol

CHAXE BROS STAY WINNING