zealot-class

[stone fern]

its still fine

itll kill everything else faste r

[undone pewter]

Can the flamer apply brittleness right now?

[stone fern]

you wont have to dodge crushers to killa boss

[visual stream]

Is that responding to me or the numbers guy

[gusty orbit]

Rending

[stone fern]

you can just ill the crushers and dual the boss

[red mesa]

the QOL and general use buffs sound SO WORTH making it harder to kill bosses IMO
the weapons will be overall more fun, even tho its sad to not execute bosses anymore it wasnt needed

[visual stream]

Because I agree with the changes

[undone pewter]

No I mean right now is there a blessing that can?

[heady rapids]

might have to kms if i have to let my teammates engage the boss also

[shy hull]

I hope the flamer rending is good with the new blessings

[visual stream]

I wonder if ironhelm will be aboe to jank in a crusher one shot by jumping through hoops now like Crucis had to before

[heady rapids]

its gonna be nuts

[gusty orbit]

No, right now no

[shy hull]

I want the crushers kill badly

[carmine wolf]

Ik it was never the meta weapon, they are making it or trying to make it more meta by getting rid of it's special thing. That's all. If they keep the unyielding damage or maybe not nerf it as much it'll be great

[gusty orbit]

Why care when everyone is going to default settings a couple weeks after the patch

[polar nexus]

@ember yew Tactical Axe
New: Slaughter Spree
Guaranteed Critical Hit (Next Attack) on Weak Spot Critical Hit Kill.
New: Relentless Strikes
+4-10% Power for 2s on Hit (Same Enemy). Stacks 5 times.
New: Agile
Refreshed Dodge Efficiency on Weak Spot Hit. +2.5-10% Melee Weakspot Damage.

[carmine wolf]

exactly knife people

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/pudgypenguin-hopium-penguin-gif-26360923

[undone pewter]

While it'll be cool I also feels this is a niche the flamer doesn't have to fill?

[gusty orbit]

No one likes hammers except a few people, so I'm just at peace with what sounds like 50% less boss damage

I'll have to see that overhead on the crucis and the damage profile

[paper harness]

Flamer now plasma op

[shy hull]

I never pretended it's gonna be optimal, I just love to be able to kill everything with fire

[undone pewter]

I suppose that's fair.

[red mesa]

why change this?
combat axes didn't need any buffs, it was a fine unique interaction that they preferred light attacking maniacs. It was fine lol
not a big deal but i dont really get why even change this

[undone pewter]

It's gonna be something.

Yet I don't think it'll be popular because it's a bit slow.

I know about the throwing knife tech.

[polar nexus]

It was a bug.

[gusty orbit]

Flamer is already popular between noobs because flame cool and with sweaties because speedrun

Anyway I don't think that blessing will release like that of they're really remotely listening to feedback

[ember yew]

I'l probably swap headtaker for relentless strikes, BM will stay

[stone fern]

wait a minute

[obtuse solstice]

I can't believe they didn't get nerfed

[stone fern]

who told me axes dont do reduced maniac damage

[undone pewter]

Which they are tbf.

[polar nexus]

Look at me and my all or nothing + ht combo

[ember yew]

[red mesa]

they always have on heavies. Lights have always been better vs maniacs on combat axes as far as I remember

[ember yew]

i have headtaker + decimator

[polar nexus]

Well relentless + ht will be nice on mk4

[ember yew]

relentless is basically

better decimator

wtf

[polar nexus]

Yeah

[frozen glen]

agile on tac axe is stupid

infinite dodges are back

[undone pewter]

On the tac axe
Least its universal I guess.

[polar nexus]

Thrust on heavy swords and duelliing swords

My god

[undone pewter]

Welcome back VT rapier

[gusty orbit]

Rending on heavy swords ._.

[frozen glen]

thrust and rending blessing on the hsword is just gonna be bigger mk6 knife huh

[red mesa]

on heavyswords im excited.
on dueling swords it seems wild, gonna be 1 shotting crushers easily lol

[heady rapids]

i love my mk ix

[polar nexus]

Loool

[gusty orbit]

Just need the obnoxious animation cancel and it's done

[heady rapids]

finally gonna use it again

[paper harness]

so fucking stupid

[undone pewter]

Cannot wait to see clips when the update releases

[faint vapor]

Power sword on zealot when? uwU

[hard nexus]

never

[obtuse solstice]

really hope they up the difficulty with the update or it's gonna become way too easy

[red mesa]

what will be the point of a thunderhammer with a thrust dueling sword existing?
I bet on a vet with all the finesse and dmg amp stuff it will kill a boss as fast as a TH lol.
will kill packs of elits faster.

My uncanny/reposte dueling sword on psyker already nearly 1 shots crushers if scriers gaze is up lol

[undone pewter]

Maybe we'll get those shooter buffs back

[faint vapor]

You haven't even seen the rager buffs

[hard nexus]

ragers now just instantly kill you

[faint vapor]

3000 hp -> 30000 hp also doubled spawns

[paper harness]

Here's the fun part

[gusty orbit]

Same as how the meta knife invalidated thunder hammer, now even funnier

[paper harness]

They nerfed spawn twice this year

[faint vapor]

"Nerfed"

[undone pewter]

What if they buff spawns with the update?

[frozen glen]

this is the same thing they did in patch 13

[heady rapids]

what if you die irl when you die ingame in this update

[hard nexus]

tbf i dont think thrust is good against bosses on most things except thammer, because its better to just attack fast, giving you double damage, instead of holding one attack longer, giving you only 160% damage

[frozen glen]

give you overpowered shit and spam spawn elites

[paper harness]

I doubt they revert the change to hordes on timers

They did it to appease a streamer who sucks

[heady rapids]

man i remember when there were 20 mauler patrols lmao

[paper harness]

lmao

[heady rapids]

pre 13

[hard nexus]

u hate to see it

darktide is the game that made me realize never trust content creators

because wow darktide's content creators all suck

[solar gorge]

about time you realise that

[hard nexus]

except like

telepot

i think

[solar gorge]

content creators should never be trusted for game balance

on any game

ever

[hard nexus]

i meant for like

[red mesa]

im not familiar with this change/situation.
Which streamer?
also can you explain the change to me, im not understanding

[hard nexus]

build advice

but yeah

[undone pewter]

I just like people who upload raw gameplay so I have something to watch at work

[paper harness]

Hordes used to spawn on triggers and timers

[solar gorge]

only guy who did dt video i tolerate is uh

that japanese guy

[gusty orbit]

I've just have the disgrace of watching one, never again

[solar gorge]

forgot

[paper harness]

so if you dicked around, you would get a horde after a random time frame

[solar gorge]

he did vt2 too

[undone pewter]

ChocoB?

[solar gorge]

yes

[paper harness]

chocoB

[solar gorge]

he just plays the game

das it

[hard nexus]

bring back endless horde bug

that was fun

[paper harness]

One streamer thought that was a bad idea so he told them to remove it

and they did

[hard nexus]

sad

[undone pewter]

Yeah love his stuff wish he uploaded more

[heady rapids]

that was fun for 2 games

honestly

[hard nexus]

i loved it tbh

[paper harness]

in Feb they "broke" event hordes

[hard nexus]

it was super hard

[heady rapids]

i was playing zealot almost exclusively so i didnt find it hard at all

just kinda annoying

[hard nexus]

bring back endless horde

but

more elites

and stuff

[heady rapids]

just make it a modifier

[hard nexus]

true

[gusty orbit]

Yeah and triple HP to everything with instakill

[hard nexus]

now ur getting it

[undone pewter]

I thought they broke with the hotfix that added terror in the dark or am I thinking of something else?

[fossil crag]

technically if you move fast enough you can simulate an endless horde

[paper harness]

Onslaught when

[hard nexus]

real

endless horde bug with even more elites and specials

if im not dodging overheads 60% of the match i dont want it

[paper harness]

@rustic bronze was right all along, there shouldn’t have been a reward increase between heresy and damnation

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[paper harness]

If heresy gave people enough the balance wouldn’t be so terrible in dt from players who cap out at heresy level skill complaints

[pale spindle]

I think people will still go onto damnation 💀

[hard nexus]

pride

[pale spindle]

u think they read the drop rates? lmao

[faint vapor]

They should make Auric increase rewards. They should suffer more

[pale spindle]

they just have inflated egos and want to get every penance done

[undone pewter]

I think people would go there because it's the highest listed difficulty

[faint vapor]

Bulk Slabhead queueing for maelstrom after 6 deaths in a Heresy 😎

[pale spindle]

Also what is the point of them getting more resources if they just waste them on shitty weapons and curios?

[muted python]

Duelling Sword hype!

[pale spindle]

It's not going to improve their gameplay

[faint vapor]

Gambling is fun

[undone pewter]

You see auric +500 with shit gear it's just how it goes

[pale spindle]

It all comes back to gambling addiction huh

[undone pewter]

I have that shit#

[faint vapor]

Recon + Infernus + no crit blessing

[undone pewter]

I spent 10000 plasteel looking for warp nexus 3

3

[pale spindle]

But why this game? Just get on a gacha 🤔

[undone pewter]

Look at my status.

[faint vapor]

??? Bro Hadron is hot

[faint vapor]

Cute

[rocky nacelle]

inquisitor martyr

is SEX

[lusty oar]

i definitely haven't thought about being dominated by an inquisitor

[undone pewter]

Gotta spend my 0 remaining stellar jade on Feixiao

[faint vapor]

Locked in for another round of rolls from Hadron 💪💪💪

[pale spindle]

JKJK

[merry flume]

thrust crusher

[faint vapor]

Feixiao very cute, understandable

[undone pewter]

She's why I don't have any!

[misty nova]

Guys, my Perfect Strike Hsword 9 will go hard with Chained Deathblow

Full Piety build

[pale spindle]

Zealot chat

Irl

[merry flume]

fatshark finally cooking???????

[stone fern]

issue is if they did that

we would get 90% of no framers speed running heresy for mats

(maybe they should just delete all mats and unify stats)

but that would be too easy and we dont deserve that

[paper harness]

Real ones would duplicate like they already do

[patent patrol]

Rate how I did. Damnation DClaw Laspistol crit build. I'm trying to improve so.

obviously nowhere near the highest and my current loadout is kinda restricting

since I don't have options for heavily armored guys really.

[hard nexus]

didn’t do the least damage, so it’s not terrible

[patent patrol]

The topscorer was a vet

pretty sure he was using the plasma gun thing

[hard nexus]

took relatively little damage

you did alright

[patent patrol]

Pretty average?

not bad, not good?

[hard nexus]

yarp

[patent patrol]

I'll take it.

[patent patrol]

if average means "not a complete letdown to my team", I'll take it.

Lol.

[hard nexus]

as long as u didn’t actively hold the team down due to getting disabled/downed constantly

and did a respectable amount of damage

then you’re doing fine

better than a major chunk of players anyway lol

[gloomy badge]

You should look at movement and see how often you're dodging too

[pale spindle]

Scoreboard is mostly a self learning tool. It's pretty difficult for any of us to know how well u did without the context of the game

To me the only stat that matters is damage taken

[gusty orbit]

Most importantly is not being a burden, someone can have damage but if they were a fucking sore to carry that died 5 times the scoreboard will be misleading

[patent patrol]

Standard damnation cryonic rod thing.

[pale spindle]

That still doesn't tell me much ☠️

[patent patrol]

Fair. I don’t record my games so

It wasn’t a super standout game though.

It was basically your average damnation run. The occasional attempt at a kick in the balls by throwing everything at you but aside from that

Basically a run of the mill damnation

[gloomy badge]

Honestly damage taken and how often you are dodging is a good indication of how well you're doing

If you do runs in pubs with smite psykers or plasma vets you are going to be playing a walking sim anyways

[pale spindle]

Also, just because you are doing well in the damage delt department, it could just means the rest of your team is dogwater

[gusty orbit]

Super fun, the most fun of the fun things

[gloomy badge]

It's okay plasma is getting even more tools 🙂

[pale spindle]

The opposite is also true, if everyone is split in damage equally that means everyone pulled their weight, it doesn't mean you are doing badly.

[patent patrol]

That’s true. So damage taken and how much I blocked or dodged is the more reliable option?

[gloomy badge]

Yes, damage can vary based on what builds everyone runs

[paper pine]

recon lasgun added to zealot...

[gloomy badge]

As long as you're killing important targets and not dying youre fine

[paper pine]

fury infernus

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-the-boys-gif-18572939

[patent patrol]

I think this is a good thing. It’s the most “zealot” lasgun.

[pale spindle]

Or it could just mean u are all equally shit ☠️

[patent patrol]

I think me and the vet were the only ones pulling weight in that match

Everyone else kinda stunk

[pale spindle]

No, like I said you need to actually think about your own gameplay and use the stats to fill in the pieces of information you didn't notice during the run

[patent patrol]

Gotcha, gotcha. Might be easier if I start recording my runs to look back on

[paper harness]

Power DI

[gloomy badge]

^

[patent patrol]

I saw people that had like expansions to their scoreboards that showed loadouts and what have you

idk how to set all that up

[gloomy badge]

Always good to do in any game to improve

Steam has an option to record your gameplay now too so it's easy on the fly

[patent patrol]

How do I set that up? Cause I really don't wanna use OBS for that

it'd probably start lagging my game cause of the mods

[gloomy badge]

Way easier than OBS

[paper pine]

NO WAY HAVE THEY BUFFED THE RASHAD LMAO

[obtuse solstice]

[gloomy badge]

I'm not at my desktop right now but you can probably Google the steps it'll take like 30 seconds

[patent patrol]

I use OBS for like, actual youtube content that I rarely post.

[patent patrol]

Ah. Gotcha. Also were you the one with that custom scoreboard setup that showed all the loadouts and crap/

[gloomy badge]

Im not sure a lot of people do that

[patent patrol]

I think I asked you once upon a time

about it

[pale spindle]

Funny enough nobody uses the Rashad for some reason ☠️

[gloomy badge]

I post super intermittently so probably not

[stone fern]

rashad very weak pls buff

[fleet zealot]

that specific buff

i don't mind

but i was also expecting nerfs to BM

[rocky nacelle]

next update

dont worry

: )

[patent patrol]

So what mods show the loadouts and expand the scoreboard again?

[lusty oar]

you download loadout monitor and ovenproofs scoreboard plugin

[ember yew]

if you are using default scoreboard, you'l need Scoreboard - Damage

as an additional to base Scoreboard

[paper harness]

This was 30 mins before I got wheeled to hospital lmao

[patent patrol]

damn that's neat.

[gleaming hawk]

Hey, it's me, your local Rashad user

[patent patrol]

So get scoreboard - damage, ovenproof's thing and loadout monitor?

[brave summit]

Looks like they got around fixing overpressure.

[ember yew]

nono, if you gonna use ovenproof, dont install other scoreboard mods

[paper harness]

I use ovenproofs and loadout monitor

[patent patrol]

ah ok.

[patent patrol]

Wait no, ovenproof SAYS it requires the base scoreboard mod

[paper harness]

Basic scoreboard yes

[ember yew]

didnt know that

[undone pewter]

Love ovenproof

[paper harness]

Game thought I wasn’t suffering enough last night and launched this one at 20 fps

[patent patrol]

what's the mod that lets you see loadouts in the scoreboard? or is that loadout monitor?

[paper harness]

Load out monitor

[patent patrol]

ah ok

Remind me, do I just stick the extracted files into the mod folder in the darktide thing and then update the mod loading order?

I forgot some of this but

[lusty oar]

https://dmf-docs.darkti.de/#/installing-mods

[patent patrol]

Thing is I already have mods installed

I just forgot bits and pieces

[lusty oar]

yes and they show the bits and pieces in step 9

[patent patrol]

oh ok sorry

[pale spindle]

Nah the game is over, Dualing Swords with easy 40% crit

Oof

It's Joevr 😔

[patent patrol]

We not gonna talk about Zealot tho?

that crit chance is gonna be crazy lmao

[pale spindle]

Yes but both classes getting it is kinda insane

[patent patrol]

True! Tho I will say I feel like it makes sense for Zealot because, well... c'mon. Saltzpyre's rapier is effectively the same thing.

and Zealot is clearly inspired by him

[pale spindle]

I think vet will benefit slightly more because it's just a "safer" version of the knife

[fleet zealot]

it bites

[pale spindle]

Ok

Let em 🗿

[patent patrol]

I also found it weird that the PRIMARILY MELEE CLASS didn't have the DUELING SWORD. You would think a class that specializes in melee combat (technically all of them do but especially Zealot at least lore wise) would have the sword specifically made for MELEE DUELING

[pale spindle]

It's probably because Psykers are supposed to be the Stam gods

[polar nexus]

Invocation of Death
Changed from 1.5s Cooldown reduction on Melee Critical Strike to: +175% Cooldown Regeneration for 4s on Melee Critical Strike

FFS NO

[patent patrol]

I can see that to an extent but also, Saltzpyre is literally Zealot's direct inspiration kit wise, and his rapier is literally just the dueling sword gameplay wise. So it's odd that PSYKER got it.

[patent patrol]

Wait what's the problem with this?

[pale spindle]

Not rly? Zealot is a type of character architype in WH40K that has existed long before VT

[polar nexus]

Just kill CDR

[fleet zealot]

i mean they obviously aren't going to kill cdr

[pale spindle]

Also the voice actor for Saltzpyre is one of the Psykers

[fleet zealot]

average players find it too fun

this is the best solution since it remains constant whether your weapon is slow or fast

[modern lintel]

So whats the thoughts on planned changes thammer looks cool dont think itll be complete game changer slight cleave on bolt pistol v cool and further buffing rashads a bit odd

[polar nexus]

Ok true.

Cleave on agrivolver lol

Finally

[patent patrol]

Well, yes. But also I'm speaking from a development standpoint. Like, Darktide's classes CLEARLY take attributes copy and pasted from VT2. And considering how similar Saltzpyre is to Zealot, you'd think Zealot would be one of the classes who would've originally obtained the dueling sword considering how similar those two are fundamentally. And with some of their kits being the exact same.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it's here now, but it just left me scratching my head.

[fleet zealot]

it's just fixing the weird lights vs heavy quirks vs maniac for rashad, but yea there should've been nerfs as well

only hammer got nerfs with it's buffs

[modern lintel]

Also then making pyskers tree look like a vet tree now

[pale spindle]

NOOOOOOO 😭, my book build

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ca461da-16ee-4c89-b61c-1e54ec2fd5e2/book-is-trash-stop-fcking-using-it?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[polar nexus]

Master-Crafted Shroudfield
Duration: 6s to 5s.

Stealth nerfed lok

[north sedge]

he is not

[wraith cipher]

tbf 6 seconds is pretty fucking long

[paper harness]

not even a nerf

[polar nexus]

Jk

I am mad for swift

[wraith cipher]

power sword zealot when tho

[polar nexus]

Nobody was really taking it

[fleet zealot]

they buffed the other stealth node, the damage one

it doesn't give you as long cooldown now

[paper harness]

stupid

[modern lintel]

Also buffing power cyclers a little funny

[wraith cipher]

someone at fs just fucking loves vet lol

[north sedge]

buffing is a strange way to look at it, shit's dead it's as staggered as it's gonna get

[polar nexus]

Fixed an issue where the Zealot class base Aura “The Emperor’s Will” remained active after selecting the “Loner” Aura talent.

Wait. What???

[misty nova]

Her name is Perfectionist 🗣️

[north sedge]

yea loner got the base version of tdr aura

[polar nexus]

That's nice and I may just take it. I wasn't using the full 6s tbh

[lusty oar]

fax my brother spit yo shit indeed

[polar nexus]

Nobody even realized

[pale spindle]

Witch hunter plays like vet with VOC, and Bounty Hunter plays like Gun Psyker

Zealot plays like furry Zealot in Darktide

Preist plays like Zealot with Book

Bardin plays like furry Zealot in Slayer, like Gunlugger Ogryn in Engineer, and Stealth Vet in Ranger.

[fleet zealot]

women are perfect yes

[north sedge]

people did! it's been brought up here before

[fleet zealot]

furry zealot

[pale spindle]

Like yeah they took their ideas from VT2 since it's there game, but I don't think it is class specific

[polar nexus]

I don't know how I feel about that Turtolsky Heavy Swords
added also to Veteran and Psyker
Maccabian Duelling Swords
added also to Veteran and Zealot
Orestes Assault Chainaxes
added also to Psyker
Braced Autoguns
added also to Psyker
Accatran Recon Lasguns
added also to Zealot
Combat Shotguns
added also to Psyker

But I am sure making a braced + chainaxe psyker

[north sedge]

that's fine, the blessings stuff is uh

[modern lintel]

Is this confirmed

[polar nexus]

Recon Crit zealot gonna be...

[north sedge]

its in the notes, so yes

[misty nova]

Yes

[modern lintel]

Holy

[misty nova]

At the very bottom of Part 2

[patent patrol]

That's fair. But let me put it like this. Why was the most FRAIL class, known for it's immense psychic powers and dying from getting sneezed on because most psyker players are incompetent, the one that got a sword made for MELEE DUELING, when the Zealot makes the most sense LOGICALLY?

Aside from game balance obviously. Like what's a good reason aside from game balance?

[polar nexus]

I can't imagine the stuff you'll be doing with a martyr ds precog thrust zealot

[modern lintel]

Time to truly evil max w plasma and dueling sword

[pale spindle]

I think it makes sense from a lore perspective. Dualling Swords are lighter than things like eviscerates or hammers and beneift from being agility over strength 🤷🏻

[polar nexus]

There's so much changes my brain can't handle it

[misty nova]

Blunts

[patent patrol]

Yes, but they also have the power sword

[fleet zealot]

it is quite easy to imagine

[patent patrol]

which is literally just that but they can channel their psychic powers into it if I recall.

[fleet zealot]

one shottign everything that isn't a monster or captain

[solid current]

DUELING SWORDS ON ZEALOT

WE WON

[pale spindle]

I dont understand what the power sword is supposed to signify?

[solid current]

IVE BEEN BEGGING ON THE FORMS SINCE RELEASE DATE

[fleet zealot]

flamer rending

purge rending

it's so over

[solid current]

combat knife is dead

[modern lintel]

Update might be lowkey goated

[polar nexus]

Omg I forgot you have stealth

[fleet zealot]

it's going to be goated for a week and then the game will be too easy

[solid current]

long live fencing freaks

[fleet zealot]

fotf or stealth, doesn't matter

you can hit the crusher BP iwthout stealth

[polar nexus]

So you can dodge stealth hit and price duellist + precog

[modern lintel]

Wonder if theyll actually nerf voc now

[fleet zealot]

especially cause you have thrust on dsword now

as an option

[patent patrol]

Like, the power sword makes THE MOST sense for them. Dueling Sword does not. Dueling Swords are literally just... swords made for dueling. The POWER SWORD involves psychic powers. I feel like the dueling sword makes the most sense for a class means for melee dueling, aka Zealot, while the power sword does what you just mentioned (being relatively lightweight I think and giving mobility) while also playing into Psyker's strength as, well, a psychic

[polar nexus]

It's like a better cb3

[patent patrol]

dueling sword is... JUST a sword for melee dueling. Which fits Zealot way more lore wise.

[fleet zealot]

are you confusing force and power swords?

[patent patrol]

might be

but I digress

[fleet zealot]

you are

[patent patrol]

Still.

[fleet zealot]

[patent patrol]

My point stands

the force/power/whatever sword makes more sense as a Psyker weapon because it's light AND plays into their strengths. The dueling sword should've been on Zealot from the jump

it's called the DUELING SWORD.

it's meant for melee dueling, which Zealot is REALLY good at

[pale spindle]

it is questionable why they gave dualing swords only to psykers and not vets/zealots

but again, I can understand the fictional architype of being based on agility like a psyker to have more structure on the dualing swords

[patent patrol]

Fair enough. I just think it should've been on Zealot at least from the jump. The name itself literally goes hand in hand with Zealot's nature

[pale spindle]

Psyker even in game has better stamina regen than zealot, they have faster dodges, and have faster run speed

[polar nexus]

Duelling sword on vet will be disgusting I think

[rocky nacelle]

serrated edge

just bleed everything

[polar nexus]

No. Sprint is inferior.

Punny legs.

[pale spindle]

😔

ogryn fastest class confirmed

[polar nexus]

Warp asthma

[patent patrol]

Ngl I can't wait for the dueling sword on Zealot. I'm a saltzpyre main in VT2 so I can literally play Saltzpyre here too LMAO.

[pale spindle]

got rugby legs

[polar nexus]

I am glad for the boltgun changes tbh

[patent patrol]

what's being changed? I haven't read the patch notes yet. Haven't had time

[fleet zealot]

thunderhammer changes are great but there is an angry minority

[modern lintel]

I think theyre great but not great enough

[patent patrol]

I think the THammer changes are AMAZING, but my biggest problem is while the THammers are getting buffs, they're still getting powercrept in the same patch.

Which is annoying.

[polar nexus]

Boltgun is not totally fixed but sway is vastly improved and so is wield speed

Alors boltgun has access to terrifying barrage, puncture and fire frenzy

[pale spindle]

have yall seen these animals?

[patent patrol]

Ah. Well hey, at least it'll be a bit more reliable from what I understand off this.

[pale spindle]

that shit bigger than my head 💀

[patent patrol]

ngl tho, as a DClaw main, the dueling sword is everything I wanted as an alternative. I love my DClaw and wouldn't sacrifice my build, but I so badly wanted dueling swords on zealot because imo they look so cool.

[polar nexus]

Yeah lol. We improved thammer but also thrust on dsword

[patent patrol]

I'm still not dropping my ironhelm. I'm sticking to it. And at the very least people won't be like "Ew a THammer user" because it'll be actually somewhat good now I think.

[pale spindle]

Thunderhammer was never bad, it's just that the majority of people who use it are "roleplayers" who want to be space marines 💀

it's kinda like evis book zealots

or smykers

or Loner Knife Zealots

[north sedge]

eh, i dont think hammer was bad but it had places it could be improved on

[raven crane]

knife my beloved.

[hard nexus]

ironhelm was good, crucius was just not

[pale spindle]

knife is probably one of the best weapons on all classes, it's just that newbs don't know how to push or heavy attack

[hard nexus]

crucius has good crowd control, but awful crowd clear, can’t consistently one shot crushers

is really only good against bosses

ironhelm is a power sword but hammer

but with better boss kill

[rocky nacelle]

crucis is sex now

ironhelm is even faster now

can semi contest with a PSword now

[hard nexus]

the update will make hammers vv fun

[rocky nacelle]

but not until it gets sunder or powercycler or some shit

but crucis HAVING an overhead

[hard nexus]

sunder would be cool

[paper pine]

it was unplayable lol

[rocky nacelle]

I might only use crucis from now on

not sure

[hard nexus]

not unplayable but not good

[north sedge]

i played it fine

[hard nexus]

i ran crucius in auric all the time

[rocky nacelle]

Crucis having a overhead strike down for even bigger damage

is sex to me

[paper pine]

I had to 5 charge shot to kill 1 crusher

[raven crane]

guess im spamming even more dodge now.

[hard nexus]

damage is probably gonna be the same, it’s just so you can hit a single target essier

[paper pine]

then wait 10 seconds to fucking move again

[hard nexus]

what no thrust does to a mfer

also a terrible roll

[rocky nacelle]

you dont think it would have a strikedown modifier?

or be strikedown

[north sedge]

the fuck?

[rocky nacelle]

and just shit dmg

[hard nexus]

i doubt it

[pale spindle]

give me thrust on knife

[hard nexus]

damage is gonna be really high

[rocky nacelle]

ironhelm has it so I dont see why not for crucis but then again crucis is meant to shit damage on special

[hard nexus]

but no different than a charged heavy side heavy

[rocky nacelle]

fair enough

if it had strike down modifier

• crucis 25% special increase

it be ridic

[hard nexus]

yarp

[rocky nacelle]

nop

[rocky nacelle]

cant wait to have 80 output thunderous crusher knock everything on its ass

and then you with evisc or yamato with ironhelm just 1 shots everything

very cool synergy

[hard nexus]

yah it’s fun

the increase in mk15 light speed will be nice

[frosty herald]

Ironhelm gang

[hard nexus]

stinky gang

i think my mk15 is going to out damage bosses now lol

compared to a hammer

[frosty herald]

Yarp

[hard nexus]

very cool

[frosty herald]

But im anti carapace

[hard nexus]

i feel so sigma!

[fleet zealot]

very polite ferret

[west trench]

so glad crusher is getting some love

the whole "here's some impact to go with your impact so you can impact while you impact" blessings was a bit sad

[ember yew]

now theres a choice

skullcrusher
slaughterer
thrust
thunderous (sick with aoe)

[fleet zealot]

scrusher thrust or scrusher slaught i feel like

tbf crusher was S tier with one blessing it's nothing but buffs for it

[north sedge]

Just gonna flatten the weapon out and make it deranged

[ember yew]

thunderous as aoe 40% team rending in 4 hits is also not a joke either

[elfin steppe]

Why is every weapon getting thrust except my Evi

[paper harness]

Another thing to bitch about for me I suppose

[ember yew]

crusher isnt that popular in pubs tho

since most people dont read, doubt it will change

[west trench]

penetrating flame is interesting too, depending on cap

[paper harness]

I would have knocked another 10% swing speed off of it and it would be A tier and balanced

[fleet zealot]

it's 60%, it isn't interesting it's a must have and compeltely breaks the waepons

[west trench]

guess I'll be packing a flamer come end of month then

should sort mixed hordes quite well

[paper harness]

Can’t wait for modded servers

Soon tm

[rocky nacelle]

blaze away and penetrating flame

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-boom-nuke-nuclear-bomb-gif-20734003

[fleet zealot]

they fixed overpressure

just to add a better blessing anyways

[rocky nacelle]

yes i wanted to kill bulwarks/crushers with a flamer

how could you tell

[fleet zealot]

my sides

i can't stop laughing

[rocky nacelle]

also T3 blaze away does more dmg than T4 overpressure

[west trench]

such is life in the imperium of man

[rocky nacelle]

kek

[fleet zealot]

the new playtesters were all redditors who hated ranged armor downgrade being removed

so they just made it baseline lol

[fleet zealot]

t4 blaze away is coming

they defeated the elitist, woke, private discorders on the darktide public discord

it's over

[ember yew]

Dumdum

Fixed an issue where the stacks and duration could be refreshed by Damage over Time effects (e.g. Burn).

[paper harness]

They defeated the primary testing pool

[elfin steppe]

I'm getting the feeling the psyker with a chainaxe is gonna be broken

[fleet zealot]

28 billions buffs, thousands of newbs

[fleet zealot]

no not at all

chaxe is not a finesse weapon

[paper harness]

Dsword zealot will be cracked beyond belief

[fleet zealot]

it might be fun and def will be viable

[paper harness]

I said it was going to happen

[ember yew]

and without attack speed chainaxe is slow af

[fleet zealot]

but psyker boosts finesse weapons the most

[paper harness]

I didn’t think they’d add fucking thrust to it

[west trench]

macca4 + flamer could be a fun combo

[paper harness]

I wanted a knife nerf, not a better knife

[ember yew]

now you can use a rapier on zealot

[paper harness]

Best in slot melee now

[ember yew]

(ds poke attack is basically rapier from vt2)

[paper harness]

Incredible

[elfin steppe]

I just wish they change some of Evi's blessings

[hard nexus]

hello swaglings

[elfin steppe]

Shred is really ass

[hard nexus]

zealot will taste a fraction of vets melee power

[paper harness]

Vet requires perfect play to keep up

[fleet zealot]

oh yea

[paper harness]

Not realistic

[ornate bone]

give me flail and shield and I will put those vets to shame

[fleet zealot]

new blessings that gives you waekspot damage and resets your dodge count on weakspot HIT

[hard nexus]

oh is it hit

[paper harness]

To get you close to zealot dps you need voc off cooldown every 10 seconds

[ornate bone]

infinite toughness from dodging?

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[fleet zealot]

nvm

lemme double check

[ember yew]

not sure if i want sacrifice damage for that

[paper harness]

Weak spot kill

Thrust

[hard nexus]

weapon specialist

[ember yew]

but it is on weakspot hit

[paper harness]

Eh

Still not close

[paper harness]

Insane

[fleet zealot]

New: Agile
Refreshed Dodge Efficiency on Weak Spot Hit. +2.5-10% Melee Weakspot Damage.

[pale spindle]

wait does power also work on the soul dot?

[fleet zealot]

It's ON HIT

[hard nexus]

insane

[ember yew]

Tactical Axe
Refreshed Dodge Efficiency on Weak Spot Hit. +2.5-10% Melee Weakspot Damage.

[fleet zealot]

i wouldn't either

[hard nexus]

see my pinky see my thumb

[fleet zealot]

but it's so DAMN unneeded

[hard nexus]

see my fist you better run

[fleet zealot]

like wtf

[ember yew]

It could be a typo though

[ornate bone]

do you punch with your knuckles?

[fleet zealot]

if you could hit the crusher BP with one blessing on zealot

you could... run agile

good balance+ second wind

and just never die

[ember yew]

im only seeing it on tactical axes and DS tho

[fleet zealot]

yea

surprised it's not on knife

[ember yew]

and DS is uncanny + precog

[fleet zealot]

it has thrust now

[hard nexus]

i punch with my fist idiot

[ember yew]

thrust on ds is disgusting

[hard nexus]

agile but on thunder hammer when

[ornate bone]

then clearly I don't need to run

[hard nexus]

no my punch will super duper kill you

because

i said so

[ember yew]

uncanny + thrust

carapace oneshot ez

[ornate bone]

anybody who knows how to fight knows that if you really wanna fuck someone up you punch with your knuckles

[hard nexus]

thunder hammer brutal momentum when

[hard nexus]

yeah but you also can’t guarantee your knuckles will be the only thing to hit, it’s why reinforcing ur fist with something like a lighter is so effective

[ornate bone]

skill issue tbh, I always hit with my knuckles

[stone fern]

changing melee downgrade to rending was a mistake

DEBATE ME

[hard nexus]

lil bro i’ve been in more fights than you, they call me red rage because when i fight i don’t stop til i see red

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-angry-scare-gif-5183071

[ornate bone]

no

[fleet zealot]

no

[ornate bone]

buddy, I do boxing all the time, I've gotten 30 knockouts so far and that's not even including street fights

[stone fern]

sounds like u need a toughness curio

[rocky nacelle]

ive killed 10 people

shut up

weaklings

[hard nexus]

you got knocked out 30 times

damn bro u suck

[ornate bone]

nuh uh

[stone fern]

its true he let me eat them

[rocky nacelle]

🤫

our beloved isnt supposed to know that

[ornate bone]

rookie numbers

[hard nexus]

i am 10 people

in a trench coat

[rocky nacelle]

10 rats*

[hard nexus]

get on my level noobass

[rocky nacelle]

stinky

[hard nexus]

shhh

[ornate bone]

I killed over a hundred guys easy during my time with the mafia

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-shower-gif-11018341

[ornate bone]

and they were other mafia guys too

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/vermintide-vermintide2-hop-on-hop-on-vermintide-rat-gif-23424961

[ornate bone]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398590278404931588/1084656593540485121/CF7DB695-9DF9-4A11-BC3D-05782BED5D2B-1.gif

[stone fern]

I just kissed them

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/skaven-dance-warhammer-fantasy-dancing-skaven-ratman-dance-gif-19349857

[hard nexus]

this is me btw

[rocky nacelle]

that was you last week

[hard nexus]

yeah

[rocky nacelle]

stinker mc stinkson

[ornate bone]

kissed their corpses? weird, but you do you man

[hard nexus]

stinker mcstinkface

[rocky nacelle]

chastise zealot irl

[rocky nacelle]

my face actually smells the best

[hard nexus]

i wish our character models were more muscular

[stone fern]

u dont know me bro

[hard nexus]

especially the female body types

[ornate bone]

wrong, I served with that guy in the armed forces and they were 100% not you

[stone fern]

when i get angry i see red bro

[hard nexus]

like i’m swinging an enormous hammer around for 20 minutes

i should look like i can rip ur jaw off with my bare hands

[hard nexus]

why’d u skull react that

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-gay-gay-drag-queen-trixie-mattel-katya-gif-3607275319780594792

[hard nexus]

it literally was me

[ornate bone]

ok why'd you join the military?

[stone fern]

the bunnies

im in the army too

[hard nexus]

because i needed to release my murderous rage for the safety of society

[ornate bone]

they said nothing about the safety of society, just that they wanted to kill people

def not you

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[hard nexus]

it was me

u just didn’t know the real me….

[stone fern]

it was him

[ornate bone]

are there 2 wolves inside you?

[stone fern]

we shared bunks

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-angry-scare-gif-5183071

yes

that is one

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-wolves-wilderness-wild-wolf-snow-gif-5611738

this is the other

[ornate bone]

well they had 37 wolves inside them

you ain't the guy

[hard nexus]

that’s a lot of wolp

[stone fern]

were they furries?

[ornate bone]

no, taxidermy is just scrumptious

[stone fern]

hey man you may have wolves inside you

but me? im inside wolves

[ornate bone]

ok get out

fuck you get out

[hard nexus]

throw me to the wolves

and i’ll come back pregnant

[hard nexus]

hi psycho

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/martsio-noita-noitagame-noita-game-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you-gif-5745340963900301559

[median steeple]

deao

despair

hallo

[vast basin]

just had a maelstrom with 0 hordes

[hard nexus]

one day i’ll understand how to play that game

[ornate bone]

you never will

[hard nexus]

true

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143287281868877824/1210055540747796500/HisPreciousLife_-_1740134599768813917.gif

[vast basin]

atleast it was a free win for hardtide

[stone fern]

u werent forged on the anvil of war like him

[hard nexus]

hi yam

[frosty herald]

where do you even find these gifs

[hard nexus]

cica and psycho are good at finding slop gifs

[median steeple]

she stole it from ME

[hard nexus]

they’re my main source

[median steeple]

which I stole from my friend who is also the master of slop

[hard nexus]

nuh uh !

[ornate bone]

I have all the cat gifs you ever need them

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-seal-kiss-seals-kissing-kissing-spinning-gif-11807368868198913727

[median steeple]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1002301423935033494/1213208760068079718/mcarthurgato.gif

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-people-knuckles-how-it-feels-how-it-feels-to-kill-people-gif-16309833444157562937

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-daima-daima-kid-goku-goku-dancing-gif-1396268726007039186

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-cat-talking-reply-gif-24471552

[misty nova]

Is that karking Noita 🗣️

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/martsio-noita-noitagame-noita-game-soccer-gif-16203159092274337852

[median steeple]

I am inside your walls is old

now I am inside your balls is confusing and threatening

[ornate bone]

that's actually Mundial Ronaldinho Soccer 64, not Noita

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-fusion-dance-based-vegito-gif-24077107

i heard you wanted supreme kai

[ornate bone]

no

you haven't heard anything

[hard nexus]

wolp

[ornate bone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126638932830990478/1256638016487952445/caption-3-1.gif

can we cat post

[misty nova]

I'm surprised by the amount of games I know even if I didn't play them

[ornate bone]

you know Mundial Ronaldinho Soccer 64?

[smoky pewter]

The goat

[hard nexus]

yeah

zealot chat is off topic 90% of the time anyway

[ornate bone]

yippee

[smoky pewter]

I will demonstrate

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-cone-meme-gif-3297817648519134962

[smoky pewter]

Tenor why

[ornate bone]

no gifs?

[hard nexus]

fail

laugh

[smoky pewter]

😦

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[hard nexus]

that’s literally me

in combat

[hard nexus]

in afghanistan and germany and iraq and iran and russia

[smoky pewter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/241965810036375562/727283231795183686/Padoru.gif

[hard nexus]

i actually live in a glass house

so

it’s not flammable

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/coyote-yot-yurryot-dog-bark-gif-9972038317307068235

[ornate bone]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/774808254546313221/1150288664002314312/7C5C5F89-4520-4749-A32C-C932D67CC7C7.gif

[rocky nacelle]

colossal brap

[ornate bone]

hey wait a minute why is this in pysker chat

[frosty herald]

Shush

[ornate bone]

also wtf how does dorn have 3.5k hours

that's nearly 6 months worth of time just playing darktide

[flint gorge]

thank god they are changing the crucis thunderhammer

i legit this its the worst melee in the entire game

[ornate bone]

I haven't looked through patch notes yet

I should

[paper harness]

[ornate bone]

how will this affect the heavy sword meta

bladed momentum looks interesting

[paper harness]

Not worth it

[ornate bone]

50% rending though

[rocky nacelle]

thrust > deathblow

sex

[paper harness]

Bromentum headtaker

[rocky nacelle]

also broken

[paper harness]

Dot has 6500

[paper harness]

How it feels to me

[lean cairn]

i love zealot it's my favourite class

zealot players are the best

[ornate bone]

true

[stone fern]

its called dedication

[ornate bone]

clearly a true zealot

[hard nexus]

i’m not addicted i’m just extremely dedicated

[stone fern]

one might say a fanatic

[ornate bone]

I can stop at any time, I'm just too dedicated to stop

[hard nexus]

exactly

you get it

[carmine wolf]

I have used it for 600 hours of damnation and maelstroms, never failed me. It works great, can be annoying to use yes, but doesn't need to be made user friendly in exchange for doing less damage to bosses.

[ornate bone]

if by user friendly you mean actually usable then yes it does need to be made user friendly

[hard nexus]

thunder hammer desperately needed this rework

[thorn imp]

Is it true

[drifting wolf]

what is this in reference to

[hard nexus]

and the boss damage isn’t even going to be that major of a hit

[thorn imp]

Is zealot finally getting the duelling sword

[hard nexus]

it’ll be one extra hit to kill a boss

[hard nexus]

yeah

[thorn imp]

Time to reinstall

[ornate bone]

its true

also its on the 26th

[carmine wolf]

How can I have only used this hammer my whole time playing I am a brain dead idiot? It just needs a touch of time to get used to and if not maniac is also a cool option

[thorn imp]

[hard nexus]

they never called you a brain dead idiot lmfao

yay strawman !

[carmine wolf]

I am calling me that

[ornate bone]

why are you saying "I am a brain dead idiot" with a question mark? are you a brain dead idiot?

[hard nexus]

ah

[stone fern]

the changes are fine you're over reacting

[hard nexus]

true!!’

[carmine wolf]

which means everyone else is much better equipped to use this weapon

[hard nexus]

clad gets it

[ornate bone]

just give me concrete answers please I can't take it

[stone fern]

hammer is kinda useless if you have packs of elites coming at you

[hard nexus]

actually sry u don’t play maelstrom only ur opinion is invalid and i must kill u

[stone fern]

you cant charge special+thrust for all of them

[hard nexus]

srrryyy

[frosty herald]

Ive used thammer and mk15 evis exclusively

[stone fern]

?????????????????????????

I PLAYED 2 TODAY

[carmine wolf]

Use a stun grenade then keep hitting them

[frosty herald]

After the game with meow its clear thunder hammers need a boost

[hard nexus]

no sorry

die

[stone fern]

I will live forever

[hard nexus]

too late

u are dead

[ornate bone]

actually sorry you don't play inquisitor martyr only ur opinion is invalid and I must kill u

[hard nexus]

common me W

[stone fern]

thats about 3 thrust stacks lmao

[ornate bone]

autocorrect strikes again

[hard nexus]

@rocky nacelle tag in

[carmine wolf]

or have a teammate

[hard nexus]

shhh

[stone fern]

you can not justify thammer having less carapace damage than chaxe just to one shot bosses

it deletes one element of the game and is useless otherwise

[ornate bone]

actually I can

[hard nexus]

the anti tank hammer should be able to kill crushers

[ornate bone]

I won a gold medal at the olympics for mental gymnastics buddy

you don't know who you're talking to

[carmine wolf]

It is a blunt hammer and I doubt my zealot does enough gym time to dent through large chunks of armor

and he does it anyway

[stone fern]

I-Im sorry master 🧎‍♂️

[carmine wolf]

1 shot to the face and crushers fall over

if not because reasons a follow up light attack does the job

[frosty herald]

If any weapon deserves to oneshot crushers its a thunder hammer

[rocky nacelle]

what am i doing

[ornate bone]

actually heavy sword deserves it

[stone fern]

you need 15 stacks of momentum to do that

[ornate bone]

devs if you see this give heavy sword the ability to one shot crushers

[carmine wolf]

I don't even use momentum I use martyrdom

[stone fern]

so do i

[hard nexus]

i play inquisitor marytr i need u to validate my takes

[rocky nacelle]

ok

[stone fern]

matry hammer doesnt one shot crushers after the chastise change from armor downgrade to rending

because the carapace adm is so low

[rocky nacelle]

y u need me

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

[ornate bone]

you do not play inquisitor martyr, take invalidated

[rocky nacelle]

whatever ill help i guess

[flint gorge]

it is completely unusable as it is right now

[carmine wolf]

Unless it's a green crusher a heavy charge to face and a light attack kills crushers

[stone fern]

you NEED to have carapace as a perk to oneshot crushers reasonably now

[hard nexus]

thunder hammers are power weapons, they are described in lore of being capable of one shotting a space marine

[rocky nacelle]

meow is on inquisitor rn

they sent me their character

[fleet zealot]

yes but those are the good thunderhammers

we have the shitty bargain bin ones

[carmine wolf]

precisely why I should be able to 1 shot daemonhosts

I don't mind the buffs

I mind the unyielding nerf

[ornate bone]

build is mid, clearly they don't play inquisitor martyr

[carmine wolf]

it is a stupid nerf

[stone fern]

even then we have shitty human thammers not big ass space marine thammers

[hard nexus]

bosses are less important compared to crushers

[rocky nacelle]

not even a build cuz its not max level

maybe you dont play inquisitor martyr

buddy

[fleet zealot]

the unyielding nerf was necessary because it kept the weapon from receiving buffs because then it will just be like when evi and chaxe sucked ass and thunderhammer was good

[carmine wolf]

I know and I also know not every weapon needs to be the meta, I don't need to kill everything I have a team

hopefully

[hard nexus]

every weapon should be good

[rocky nacelle]

is it installed?

[hard nexus]

erm shopped

[rocky nacelle]

nope

[hard nexus]

u smell

[rocky nacelle]

invalidated

[ornate bone]

you don't even have inquisitor prophecy buddy

[hard nexus]

fuckingn

auto correct

[carmine wolf]

And with those flamer buffs I don't think anyone is going to use a hammer to deal with crushers

[rocky nacelle]

not installed not playing

invalidated

[ornate bone]

listen I need the space for Space Marine 2

[rocky nacelle]

so noob

[ornate bone]

I'll reinstall later

[hard nexus]

i want to use a thunder hammer to kill crushers though

[carmine wolf]

And I regularly do

[ornate bone]

but neither of you have inquisitor prophecy so opinion invalidated

[carmine wolf]

it is a thing you can do

consistently

[hard nexus]

very inconsistently

[stone fern]

no its not

[carmine wolf]

Ok maybe not if there's a horde of them

[stone fern]

even with 6 wounds+chastise+special+thrust you still at the very least need headtaker

[hard nexus]

you need to have +cara and high pen, and either dump a 30 second cooldown, be at almost max wounds missing and have duellist up

[stone fern]

ye you need the perk as well

[carmine wolf]

I use skull cracker because hadron hates me and it breaks their face open

assuming I killed some things first

[stone fern]

and you have the perk then the second perk has to be unyielding

[ornate bone]

can we all just be friends and agree that thunder hammer should be removed from the game entirely and replaced with melta gun

please?

[stone fern]

and if you have carapace unyielding you dont have flak

which is needed

[stone fern]

no

[hard nexus]

i think you should be removed

[stone fern]

thammer good

[hard nexus]

from life

[coarse birch]

I can play agri shotgun hsword psyker and thats all that matters

[stone fern]

and fun

me luv bonk

[carmine wolf]

flak??? you aim at maulers chest and falls over who needs flak?

[hard nexus]

agricultural shotgun

[carmine wolf]

you don't need flak for anything

[ornate bone]

I need flak

I eated all the falk

[hard nexus]

falk

[ornate bone]

which is why I need flak

out of falk

[misty nova]

It took me forever to get thrust 4, I'd be mad

[red swift]

In my experience, flak is needed on Thunder Hammer

[carmine wolf]

I use unyielding and maniac damage

[ornate bone]

you'll get a thrust 4 melta gun as compensation

[carmine wolf]

in my experience a horde of ragers are alot more terrifying than crushers

[ornate bone]

until a grenade gets thrown

[carmine wolf]

I have a stun grenade which in turn works great against crushers

[patent patrol]

What do I do with this? I mean, yes, it's bricked RIGHT NOW, but when the new system comes out I could change the perks for free so.

[ornate bone]

do nothing

just wait

[misty nova]

Dumdum is good

[patent patrol]

Shouldn't I swap the second blessing for something better?

[stone fern]

this is how much damage a thammer without flak does to a flak rager

[carmine wolf]

it's a beautiful name

[stone fern]

if a pack of them comes at you you're fucked

[ornate bone]

I mean sure but why not just wait for crafting update

[carmine wolf]

no because you can keep staggering them?

[stone fern]

that is with 3 thrust 4 stacks btw

[carmine wolf]

also I use a crusis so can't verify ironhelm

[red swift]

Thammer be like

[ornate bone]

meanwhile same trapper dies in one revolver shot

wait why didn't you use your revolver to kill the trapper

[red swift]

not important

[patent patrol]

cause I'll lose all my other blessings if I don't do it?

[red swift]

I was overeliant on it though because thammer sucks

[ornate bone]

what? why are you losing blessings?

[carmine wolf]

Is that a thing with the update?

surely not

[stone fern]

me #psyker-class message when i forogt i had knives

[ornate bone]

pretty sure you keep blessings

[stone fern]

weapons stay as is

[patent patrol]

It's getting a huge buff in the next patch tho!

So let's go!

[stone fern]

blessings become weapon xp

[red swift]

Yeah it was my favorite weapon when I started the game

So we'll see

[carmine wolf]

Wat now

[ornate bone]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398590278404931588/1084656593540485121/CF7DB695-9DF9-4A11-BC3D-05782BED5D2B-1.gif

[carmine wolf]

So we need to farm them again?

[stone fern]

the weapons you have stay the same but the blessings you learned become XP into the weapon family

no

you can use the XP to unlock them freely

[carmine wolf]

oh

that's actually pretty good

I can get blessing I want

instead of hadron being a bully

[stone fern]

everyone post thammers

[stone fern]

hadron lobotomy was successful praised be the omnissiah

[ornate bone]

can we actually just murder hadron?

[west trench]

tried a hammer, hated it, ground it into dockets, switched to crusher and never looked back

[ornate bone]

that would be nice

I would like that

[carmine wolf]

this is the hammer I use, hardly ideal and it's been getting the job done consistently for a year now

[patent patrol]

This one's for the update lol.

well I changed the blessings to thrust 3 and slaughterer 4

I don't have thrust 4

yet.

[red swift]

Slaughter / Skullcrusher Crusher is going to be nice

[carmine wolf]

I had to buy some 800 hammers to get that

[ornate bone]

why momentum?

[carmine wolf]

Hadron is funny

[patent patrol]

Here's the updated pic

[patent patrol]

And here's the THammer I've been using for ages now.

[patent patrol]

This one is easily fixable once the new update happens. Just gotta hope it bumps up that first target

[stone fern]

this is the first hammer i ever levelled

sadly i self bricked it

[hard nexus]

how