#zealot-class
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Im pretty sure there was a monkey who use playboy magazines and had some fun ehile she did
YAAAAS
Man is a true American
I always had a hard time understanding diet and zero sugar soda
Id rather just drink water
THANKS EMPEROR GREAT GIFT
My favorite soda is dr peoper
You’re literally putting permanent marker on my white dress shirts 
It used to be mine but i drink it so much that i got sick of it
Like
Luke?
For an amount of time drinking it would make me feel genuinely sick
I'm crossing out your can't and putting a shouldn't, to autocorrect you so your students won't listen to your bullshit

Stan you got to bring this to the ring with them
Dont take it lying down
@hushed knoll Anyway I'm done pulling your leg for the night, have a good night Stan. o7
Are you advocating violence? 

Serbia is not even close to dark
^
Yes
I wasn't even fully out of my chair before getting gunned down

For this... you have summoned... the wall...
That sounds fun
Ill go grab my commissar build
NO WTF
mmh burned pizza
Does anyone know if monstrosities that are spawned as "specialists" still count as specialists for the sake of different talents?
I assume no but never looked
Probably not
This hurts my soul deeply
the roof of my mouth hurt
Do not imagine eating that
no i meat as of right now
i ate a burnt pizza
i was black
cheese black
and i left it in the airfryer while i was sleepin
damn no edits or nothing just pep huh
Alfredo sauce and Asiago cheese
Tasty
Am I no longer dead to you
Die a painful death
should try alfredo sauce with shit like bacon bits or grilled chicken
I used to work at a pizza place had something called pink sauce was just red mixed w ranch
i had something called an "enchilada" pizza, it was just crust replace red sauce with ranch then put jalapenos and cheese/meat on it
pretty good doe
Also yea this unepic
Howd the maelstrom go im loading into one rn
Nah I'm a really picky eater
I don't like either of those
how do I deal with 350,000 gunners
mods made me crash at hadron im doing it now (vanilla style)
By killing them
shit u rite
I'm always right
TWBS and Tknives are your best friends
Shit your pants instantly
twbs...?
thy wrath be swift
immunity to ranged/melee "stuns"
makes u faster upon taking dmg iirc
Look in the nodes just above loner, the rightmost aura
eww
I cant give the ut most detailed description cause I have my mods off
but thats basically it
I'm just telling you where it is lmao
It's above it
strongest loner hater
Im sorry, it was reflex, some of my most negative memories in this game involve loner zealots
so when someone mentions loner I have a reaction
they take loner cause they suck i take loner cause it's in the build path
we are not the same
Not a ferret, 0/10
That makes sense
Loner isn't as terrible as people think it is cuz it does keep the base zealot aura, but it's still not good
not my favorite kind of elf but whatever
But it's always used by really good or really bad players
To early
wym bro just go loner + 30% toughness regen curios, broken
The good players take it for point economy on specific builds and the bad players simply to know what they're doing
ferret with hat, 1000000/10
christmas in july so it's too late
At hhgreg
You don't know how glad I was to purge all of my builds of loner, when the toughness node below the left aura got fixed
What if I posted him after 2 years have passed?
Then the weeping angels are coming after u
famous last words
Since they can't be killed/damaged >.>
They are basically scp-173 >.>
Except, whenever not viewed they move >.>
Yeah, but again, they can't teleport.
I'm pretty sure they could move through space
They move really fast, sure, but you throw them into a fucking star and they are not getting out of it.
then they absorb the star and come at you beyond light speed

idk the exact lore on weeping angels, I just know they are scary mfs
use a diamond pickaxe
Pretty sure the pickaxe would break before you could even remotely come close to damaging them >.>
nuh uh it's got durability and efficiency enchantments
plus the whole you blink/look away and then they come closer and closer to you before warping you away and feeding off of your soul's energy or w/e
get grabbed by chaos spawn, wave of pox bursters spawn, they shove 2 pox bursters on me and im 1 hp max corruption
lmfao
just have more faith kindred
have some of mine
my faith can not enhance the weaponry of my team guardian
Give them preacher cole as well!
least angriest soyker
if anything i should be salty they basically got me killed with those bursters lmfao
totally normal witch moment
turned off my mods for that
"Yikes"
smh I should have known when I saw the zealot with quickflame and overpressure it wasnt gonna be good

So instead of jack reacher... would it be Cole Preacher? @fleet zealot
that was the zealot with flamer that had overpressure and quickflame
he also had reload speed as a perk
and flak which is the only good one

gene stealers free me from this hell they call atoma....
Ell Eacher
tru
Bro cant even let a dude rage in peace
Fucked up ngl
This image is going to be entirely different in 3 months from now
Or it will legit be the exact same since I am a stubborn mf
really waiting for the people who are spam asking for vesture rotation to bitch when it "sucks"
🕴️
I mean, if you ask for food and someone brings you dogshit on a plate, you ARE allowed to complain
they better not make us wait 3 weeks for dogshit, all im sayin
I just died
But we're doing good
At final event now
Waiter
Where is my weekly slop
Here you go sir
What the fuck is this? Whyd you bring me such slop?
what can i do this?
If the cook cannot accept criticism of his dish it is a bad cook
You could put precog, riposte, or fleshtearer in place of mercy killer
I'd say elites to flak tbh
lacerate
Eat an entire ass
DEATH
I keep dying when I use the knife, what other weapons can carry
whose the artist
Akuseru.sama
the other knife
Random question, what blessings should I keep an eye out for zealot melee? Primarily the eviscetstor but any weapon blessing to look out for wouldn’t hurt
doesnt he do art for lythero?
The lvl 1 Rashad axe upon character creation
Idunno
Think that’s bad?
It'll always come down to what weapon you're using
For example, rampage is amazing on the devils claws and evis, but other blessings are better for heavy swords
nvm its https://x.com/Krooked_Glasses
all i know is draw | partner in creative crime: @Lythero💕 | she/he/they |🌱
I understand that, I was just asking because I got recommendations for the new shotgun so I was hoping for some more for other weapons
is that up rn
mmt it
no this is the best mod in the game
thunder hammer and eviscerator testing grounds
Genuinely my favorite modifier.
The only one I like other than that one is scab only no ammo.
that one is peak
i love bringing a flamer into that one
ngl
use it for those "moments"
and if I have a vet
better for me
Scab only no ammo is really easy because there's no dreg ragers.
Yeah, but I dont always wanna be using a knife.
Sometimes I like using a heavy sword or thunder hammer.
use a grey crusher
I said T
knife
yknow
the fun ones
When the game goes woe, 12 dreg ragers be upon ye, anything other than a knife or a dclaw is bad.
Yeah, I know.
Throwing knives are great but I don't wanna only use those.
I actually really enjoy juggling evisc with tknife
gets so much shit done
really fun
ran into a group of like 10 shotgunners earlier and was only able to be fine cause I tknifed a nurgle boosted trapper and dog
Nurgle boost shouldn't add stagger resistance.
If I whack a nurgle boosted trapper with the equivalent of 40 pounds of steel in a brick shape, they should not be able to keep standing.
me
practicing my long ranges on snipers n shit
yea its pretty aids
what’s blessings for bolt pistol
Fury Rising or Stalwart?
never seen anyone go stalwart ever
Right
Right
If you want support go left ig but i dont think its that good
I remember when tknives couldnt pen trash mobs and ran into same problem crucis still has
ngl im still surprised
when my tknife goes through even 1 poxwalker
into the special/elite
guess i was used to it not pen
Still tragic bolt pistol has no cleave
Woeful
thinkin i grab this
also what would I ideally want
to make this better
thinkin crit chance for maniacs bloodletter for slaughterer?
THIS IS ZEALOT CHAT AAAAAAAAA
o hang on
ngl sibling that thing is kinda poop
well
the stats are good
everything else is rough
ferret zealot chat
No
honestly bricked ngl
Is that santer clos
no
what is the lad grinding
erm chat
cut his head off
how often have you guys seen A-I-II?
i feel like this is my first or i forgot and its the 2nd or 3rd
corpsedust
god bless community notes
where my crack hamsters at
Josho are you okay
?
Nothing
this isnt the real josho
there is a direct line of continuity between the me from before (severely addicted to drugs) to the me of now (leg was amputated in tragic boating accident)
are you still addicted to drugs
if i wanted some weird goblin to insult me i would talk to @frank night thank u very much
just because you don't respect someone's opinion that doesn't make them a goblin
smh
he's like 5'3" and from the uk what else could he possibly need to qualify
the british version of you
i am at least 5'3.5"
well at least you have that

My friend has been trying to gaslight me into thinking pigs are just hairless bears for like nearly 2 weeks
Aren't they?
No
the giant killer pig from hell that lived millions of years ago doesn't count because it's not a pig either
@spare talon i recommended savage sweep to my friend who has a good dclaw
hes playing vet
did I just get him killed
his other blessing is T4 shred
Do autoguns share blessings?
i figured savage sweep is good on vet dclaw cause its not your primary weapon all the damn time
unlike zealots who need ramp/shred
have to be in the same "family tree"
Infantry, braced and headhunter are seperate groups
Only weapons of the same class do
Iteresting, thanks!
What's the new event? Is it just the light out?
smth like hide and seek from what i can tell

sadge no surge yet
Like
Crushers as in the enemy
Uh a normal Crusher like the weapon
Is good against the titular enemigo
Idk if there's anything that feasibly kill a crusher in less than 3 seconds on Zealot that isn't a chain weapon or a THammee
THammer*
The best crusher killer imo is the iv dueling sword for psyker
Shit's busted
If u want 2 mulch ur way thru the game w/o a brain run an inexorable judgement build for a rashad or a 3 shock maul
They dont immediately kill crushers by rashads and mauls tear them to shreds
Mauls have a bonus against carapace to damage and the rashad is broken
Mauls use high voltage and skull crusher, headtaker and brutal meowmentum for the rashad
@hard nexus and @spare talon can help u w a build
Idk about mauls having a bonus vs cara
Shock mauls are poggers
Saul gud
wha
hi
whats going on
no
rending bad
Silence
Skullcrushers
rending is bad because you already deal nearly full damage to armor
ur carapace modifier is like 90%
Yarp
so rending is redundant
Rending gaming
Use skullcrusher and high voltage
yarp
Please for the love of the Emperor
Kinda want to put plus cara and plus flak on a smaul
Do it
I have a collection of god rolled mauls
Rending good but not that blessing
Might help with abysmal unyielding damage though
maniac wouldnt be bad either
Tried to raw two reapers and I lost 
Pardon?
They filled me up
skullcrusher is way better for applicable targets
With lead
Yea SC is just too good
playing knife zealout
mechanicus soundtrack in the background
right as I start dancing around a plogryn, dance of the cryptek starts playing
Le epic green text
lightning reflexes high voltage is ur 'best' boss damage because the timed block applies the debuff that shows the lightning sparks (which is what high voltage works off of)
I'm not a 4chan user. I command you to explode for comparing me to such subhuman degenerates.
me when
mfw
mfw when
Noh but u r a knife zealot
And?
U will NOT be raptured
who doesnt dabble in the blade nowadays
Cope and seethe?
The rapture beam will pass over u and take ur dog instead
The Emperor bade me use a blade. This is the one His eyes lead me to.
Who up flesh tearing they lacerate
the only knife build i respect is riposte precog
u must know the secrets of crit adm boosts
LACERATE GAMING
Only knife build i respect is epic cole
jfj?
Absolutely not. Precog uncanny and I'm dancing around you with momentum.
i don't even use knife, but the arcane technology of uncanny/flesh tearer is nasty work
The world if precog didn't last half a second
clearly u don't know of 1.75 unyielding adm on crit
smh
If the heavy swords behaved more like swords and less like axes, I'd agree.
They're falchions so
(heavy swords are falchions)
Like a sword axe
it's like 0.8 cara/1.15 flak/1.75 unyielding on crit and u can get 100% crit rate so its just like
Yes exactly.
strangeness
They're more like axes, functionally, than swords.
Hence the name, "heavy sword."
Alright, I hear you, but at the same time, uncanny precog poke a crusher to death in 3 hits.
Actually they're still more like swords if u think about it
Struggle against armor and is light to swing fast
i mean if ur assuming full setup there's literally no way the ttk difference is large enough to matter
Lawnmower blade
IRL, a falchion doesn't give a shit what you're wearing.
if ur playing chastise knife (stealth and chorus are two of my least favorite ults in the game) u also don't run into the issue of rending capping at 100%
Heavy swords only struggle in game because carapace isn't simply metal armor.
I already miss my ranged rending on chastise 
just run a crit build
so much loadout flexibility whisked away
Falchions r one of my fav class of wpns
It's an ultra tough alloy that is basically impenetrable to anything short of armor piercing ammunition or power weaponry.
There's so many different kinds
all of the like 2 melee weapons on zealot that actually have an annoying time with carapace 😔
Big falchion, small falchion
Mom, Cica is speaking Polish again
perfer the bastard sword myself
I'm partial to the good old longsword.
chainsword doesn't count because u literally get 0 value from stealth so ur sorta pigeonholed into fotf unless u run the shit ult
I'm a dclaw degen okay
Longsword
After learning to use one IRL, they're actually significantly more sophisticated than simply "pointy end toward bad guy."
i just miss running not bolter or zarona for armor
the real trick is blazing piety hh/da vraks 3
I'm going to halfsword it and pin you to a wall through your internal organs.
zealot could use like one more anti armor ranged that isn't just inheriting the bolters shitty recoil again 
Good luck doing that with anything that isn't a longsword.
any anti armor ranged for zealot is probably going to be pigeonholed into just performing that role
so the fundamental gameplay difference is u swap out the model
Y r u halfswording ur longsword isnt even that long anyways
You are insane.
U have low confidence in ur point control..
Use the full sword lmaooooooooooooooo
Longswords are long. It's in the name, "longsword."
Kid named plate armor
They destroyed darktide by not letting flamethrower kill chargers 😔
alright but why isnt the eviscerator named the longchainsword
Plate armor doesn't beat a longsword, either. That's why the crossguard is pointy!
why go long sword when the great sword exist
THRUSTING is for GOOBERZ
I mean is that necessarily bad though? I don't think it's pigeonholing, this game has a whole armory and (soon) crafting system. I think it's fine if they add weapons that fill a certain niche sometimes
U will perform only CUTS and u will LIKE IT !!
Oh the autism in me is about to explode...

If you can hit them with the cross guard sure
Bolt pistol is pretty like "meh" overall but I friggin love the thing cuz it pairs super nice with dclaw, aiming it is just a woeful experience sadge
It's a lot easier than you think it is. Trust me.
My phones bout to die
can't you just stab through plate with the tip of the sword and adequate force
Its easier to hit them with a hammer
No.
it's necessarily bad in the sense that people are going to complain about having to adjust a loadout to cover different enemy types regardless of how many combinations u get
Plate is specifically made to not be stabbable.
that is the crossbow
That's why you stopped seeing the roman style of the flat, chiseled chestplates.
speaking of stab
They don't stop piercing weapons.
i was thinking not long ago
i think almost every complaint about "loadout diversity" i've seen has boiled down to "i don't want to have any consideration for the choices i make when building the loadout"
are arrows just spears?
The only way to stop a piercing weapon is to redirect it.
Curved surface
Rlly fast spears
So the English invented curved breastplates.
That's why helmets
My fav wpn is by far the tuck
imagine shootin spears
but hey
Evolved.. magnificent..
We did. Google the atlatl.
theyre almost guaranteed to do awful things to weapons with the crafting update
That's estoc 4 u europeans
It's basically a cup for the butt of a spear.
How
so the rollercoaster of weird fs decisions has yet to begin
That involves more work
But you throw centripital force into the mix and it makes your spear like 4x as powerful.
you're not gonna believe this
fs is not lazy by any means theyre just slow
Miaodao is one of my fav wpns
Also, the ballista exists.
Or the changdao
imagine shooting phalanx spear
Literally longe sword
Weapon nerfs next year 
A Pila?
Pre gunpowder artillery is so funny
Literally, ballistae.
you're n
And yeah, the roman spears were called pila.
Erm pilum.. pila is plural..
fuckin nerds
Shut up.

Nerd.
lets move away from weapon
the crafting overhaul gives them the same p13/14/15 'we're adding content so you can't be that mad about balance changes' thing
so i would assume its gonna be earlier than that
Anything after the 15th century is bleh
So anyway, the sallet is the most effective helmet ever invented pre ballistic weaponry.
Brigandine and cobbled together half plate is my fav
I will not be arguing with anyone. They can sit in their wrongness and be wrong.
i am a fullplate lover myself
exspecially parade armor
Yea but like people would complain about anything anyway. Especially here, we have an entire community of dedicated whiners. I'd just like to have more than 2 ranged options when using the dclaw, after playing with it so much. Really I just want more weapons in general tbh
if i am gonna die
They added so many buffs so it's balanced
lemme die covered in drip
Waffenrocks r pawesome
I enjoy coats of plates.
keep them cool weapons comin
yea after testing them in psyk hard agree
like they function almost fucking identically
I couldn't like not identify many differences
if you block cancel the agni it's literally identical
and I was in there for a MINUTE
Josho is a master of medieval arms https://streamable.com/4vr918
i was trying to figure out if there was enough going on to make a crusher guide pt 2 and i was just like
I don't.
these weapons are so painfully hard to distinguish
Plate armor is unbelievably heavy.
Like, sure, we made strides to make it able to be mobile.
you're dead it dont matter how heavy it is you look amazing
But it is still heavy as fuck and you get tired very easily.
Protection gud
like i did a bunch of testing on maulers and i thought i had a strict dps lead for the agni over the indignatus and then i realized i was just doing the wrong combo and the numbers came out IDENTICAL
for the benefit of not dying immediatly ill take it
and i was genuinely distraught
I'm just saying, you aren't dodging a mace to the face in that.
dude just bulk up
The heaviest single part of the armor is the chain mail
And a mace doesn't care what you're wearing.
big brain cica here
it was another one of those "you don't have to throw a krak grenade over a bulwark shield to magnetize it to the carapace" things
The plates weigh relatively little
The plates compound the issue of the underarmor.
yeah since its all over the body
Chain mail chausses for example are heavy as fuck
Indeed.
You can wear plates without chain
Contrary to bideo games gambeson is perfectly fine armor
didn't stop me from dropping one into the driverseat of a moving car
killing the occupant instantly
There's different kinds if you're wearing it as a protective jacket or as padding under plate
The issue with that is, now you've defeated the purpose of wearing plate by giving yourself weakspots.
It's more hot than heavy, but it still very cut resistant
I would rather just not wear plate at all.
what are you babbling about
Dat shrimple
the helicopter is my halfsword magnum opus
Without underarmor, plate armor is very weak solely due to the fact that your joints are mostly unprotected.
nothing will ever compare
True
what if I hit the plate with a very heavy blunt object
Anybody using a cutting weapon can kill you, easily.
the Spanish conquistador drip is what I wish to die in
The armor is there for the same reason seatbelts exist
Chinese armor is literally peak
And yeah, this is my main issue with plate. Blunt weapons were the most prevalent among all battles, of all time.
While the europeans were living in huts after the apocalypse that was the collapse of the WRE
I'm not wearing an extra 40lbs of plate across my body just for a peasant to 360 no scope me with a fucking sling.
Jurchen Iron pagoda my beloved
Dynasties in China were killing eachother in the tens of thousands over basically nothing
wear a helmet
Your helmet won't protect you from a sling, dingus.
Brigandine was used in war there along w complicated plate armor like three centuries before the Europeans started using it
pretty sure it will
Until it came across the silk road
Move a 3 pound stone at 60mph and find a helmet that survives that.
unless you are slinging a boulder
Do you not understand how centripital force works?
Or however you spell that word?
Slings are pretty gnarly
this feel like saying a helmet to protect from bullet is stupid
Slings are one of the deadliest weapons mankind conceived.
In the Republican era the Romans used slingers as their first line of troops
MODERN HELMETS DONT STOP BULLETS
They'd sling their stones and then flee for the more professional volunteers to fight
thats the point
In the post-Marian Imperial kit a Roman legionary would have a sling on them
It's an underrated piece of kit
so you aint gonna wear a helmet at all
you wear the helmet for extra damage when headbutting
Like I don't fully understand why you can't wrap your head around a helmet not protecting you from a sling.
But was beloved by Rome
What is a sling, if not a mace from way over there?
Armor is there for the same reason seatbelts are
And what do we know about maces?
Helmets can stop bullets
Maces. Don't. Care. About. Armor.
for the government to control you?
People who don't wear armor are either stupid or suicidal
Kevlar ones
and shrapnell
Yes, shrapnel is the main purpose of modern helmets.
Someone tap the photo of 7.62 lodged in a kevlar helmet
The absolute level of semantics
My internet has been down the entire day due to the provider
So I've just been playing an offline single player game the entire time
And I basically just beat it but the INTERNET IS STILL DOWN
It's not even semantics.
I mean catching the bullet is literally stopping it
It's literally two different terms.
by your logic i should go fite someone with a sling butt naked against a fully armoured wank
Stopping a round means zero back face deformation.
Or better yet, a steel plate
I.e. the helmet does not warp on the inside.
There is not a single helmet made today that has zero back face deformation.
In a nasty lump
The armor warps so your body doesn't
Yeah.
More of a catch than a stop
a helmet can lessen the impact of a bullet, but stopping one is in the realm of maybes
hell about that
for how the helmet is design
I need ti stop procrastinating
its more like space armour
The issue with stopping a bullet is, the helmet can survive after stopping one, but the force has to go somewhere.
getting hit by a mace doesnt mean bye bye directly
Meaning it snaps your neck.
Which is why those Russian titanium helmets stopped being made.
gotta work out ya neck
They definitely stopped bullets, yeah, but the user still fucking died.
Wasn't the neck snap thing already dismissed back in WW2?
I have no idea.
ivan dies helmet to boris
Regardless, not a good idea.
I'm almost sure bullets don't have enough mass to push your head back enough to snap your neck with the helmet
Mass isn't the issue.
Energy is.
And if you have enough mass, nothing will stop you anyway.
Like, a .50 AE has enough mass to punch through about all modern body armor short of a literal bomb suit.
And that's a pistol cartridge.
Anywho, the reason people don't die by being shot in the helmet anymore is that we realized preventing back face deformation of a helmet is nigh impossible without harming the user, so we added spacing inside helmets.
Kinetic energy depends on mass
You have a sort of harness on the inside of it that you strap to your head, and there's space between the actual armor of the helmet and your head.
still gonna wear a helmet
so basically
even if you have safety nets like armor n shit
you shouldn't be trying to get hit
Again, mass isn't the issue. The issue is energy. Just about every distance you're able to get shot at with accuracy, the mass of the round is irrelevant. It's still gonna dump its full payload of energy into you.
Which is also achieved in ye olde times by using fluffy clothing beneath armor
There's a certain distance bullets have to travel before they begin to slow down, and this varies for every type of cartridge, but regardless of that, the mass of the projectile striking you doesn't really matter.
i feel like we are gonna end up talking about tanks
to be fair if you're being shot at.. i recommend leaving that place
just dont be made of material 
Considering the same volume, stopping a piece of paper at 300m/s is easier than stopping a piece of lead at the same velocity
This is the main point of all this. Armor isn't infallible because either A) you're not getting hit where the armor is protecting, B) the armor is too heavy to move in, or C) the armor does work, but it doesn't stop the transfer of energy from turning your organs to soup or bones to powder.
not really, if a shot goes straight through you, then relatively little energy is actually being dumped into you
Yeah, I know.
yes ur gonn have a hole in u which is a problem
But then you have a hole in you, and the topic is helmets.
Don't think you want holes in your head.
ass
Other than the ones obviously present, smartass.
oh that's not-
this is wrong
who put a stick up your ass dang
but it depend on engaging range
Show me a publicly available armor that can stop .50 AE.
does it not?
It does.
then just get out of range
2 inches of steel duct taped to your chest?
Backface deformation.
If it has backface deformation, it didn't stop the round, it caught it.
Which... directly over your heart... not a good plan.
level 4 armor will stop a 50 AE
meow gets it
This guy has to play tarkov.
no actually i just know how body armor works
Armor classifications are recommendations.
no they're classifications
I belive the peak that lvl 4 can stop is multiple black tip 30-06 or atleast thats what most companies commonly advertise as the highest caliber youre likely to run into
Go ahead and show me some class 4 armor that got shot by a .50 AE and didn't have backface deformation.
warp flurry -> surge if ya got it, specialists into flak or carapace cuz heads
backface deformation is still stopping the bullet.
It isn't.
does this count?
backface deformation without penetration is stopping the bullet
This isn't a semantics argument. This is actual terminology. Stopping a round means there is no backface deformation.
the energy is stopped
source
And also even if your plate do somehow stop a .50 your entire rib cage and sternum will be toast and very likely organ rupture
Bingo.
Backface deformation is unavoidable.
It came free with your laws of physics.
ok so then stopping a bullet is a myth?
throw it in the garbage
No. Stopping a bullet isn't a myth. What I'm saying is, modern body armor doesn't stop bullets, it catches them.
tbf the question would end up being is it better to het a blunt damage or a pierce shot
blunt, easily
I can go weld myself a full suit of titanium metal and have some idiot mag dump me with 7.62x39 and not have any piercing wounds.
so this literally is a semantics argument
The issue of stopping 31 rounds of 7.62x39 is that my organs would be soup and my bones would be powder.
Most plates will still cause broken ribs on conventional rounds such 7.62x39,7.62x54r , .308 or 5.56 but a .50 yea your toast if the plate stops it at all the only thing its going to allow you is an open casket funeral
nerd out i swear
It's not that hard to comprehend transfer of energy.
54r borders on anti material classification so...
Yes I'm very autistic about firearms, how could you tell?
Russian has multiple anti material rounds already
all I'm hearing is that there's a complete lack of padding going on with these armors
everyone does
because you hate armours
plate armour my beloved
I don't hate armor.
there kind of is, but not to a level of like a gambeson as far as i know
I find that being where the attack isn't is the best strategy to not being hurt, though.
at that point do a napoleon
and be a canonier
Even if there was, getting shot isn't fun. You get the wind knocked out of you, from what I hear, if you're shot anywhere in the chest.
the human body fucking sucks
Source: my father served in the gulf war and took 3 7.62x39 to the back.
as oppose to dying?
Though i have seen casses of a vest that stopped a 30mm full bore round tho from the pictures it looked like an extreme diagonal angle of impact and likely from a ricochet off something before hand
Oh you can definitely get shot without padding and survive.
But either way, it's not gonna be fun.
The vest: "lmao get caught idiot"
The armor gives you a very shitty time breathing after a bullet so you can still breathe
idk man i think increasing my chance to survive seem nice
Your best chance of survival is to not be in a position to get shot at in the first place.
''just dont get hit''
Real
Yeah duh but that's BOOOOORING
Quite literally, yes.
depends on the round and distance. an intermediate cartridge you'd be able to stay standing and return fire, but a larger round like 338 and you would have the wind knocked out of you
yeah but what if you get hit?
Or shoot them first.
what then smart guy?
do i just sit there and die?
And hope your medic can stop the bleeding.
Or, if you're able to, basic self aid.
I.e. application of a tourniquet.
Youre dieing straight to hell if you get hit by a .338
This sounds like something #veteran-class would be yapping about at this hour
or any hollow point
i meant if ur armor managed to stop it
-cadian ranting how amour is for pussy
planet blew up laugh now
cadian when he gets shot in the chest and quickly realizes armor isnt that bad actually
(this is his final thought)
"Larger round" like .338 borders anti material rounds. The standard intermediate cartridges you see in modern conflict are 5.56x45, 7.62x39, and .308. All of them will put you on your ass if you get shot, armor or not.
Regardless unless its a glancing blow or you have somebody ready to stabilize your now collapsed multiple organs in less then 5 minutes terms after it your done
no they wont
"Just don't be in a position to get shot" people when bush #1737 in the forest shoots them in the lung
use a wall idk
basic transfer of energy, shooting a 5.56 cartridge doesnt have enough recoil to put you on the ground, so it will not have enough energy to put someone on the ground
get a better wall
just dodge the bullet
its the same reason why the idea that a shotgun will physically knock someone a significant distance back is incorrect
Do you understand that you're not getting shot only once? Do you understand that the more bullets hit you, the less integrity your armor has? Do you understand that you have a limited amount of air in your lungs?
do you understand that thats not what im talking about?
Like, all of these things are limiting factors of "can I stay standing."
You can't stand if there's no breath in your lungs.
i am talking about the physical energy. if you are shot repeatedly, yes you would eventually be driven to the ground, its the principal behind modern tactics taught to soldiers
And you can't breathe once you're full of holes.
Which people use armor to mitigate
I thought the armor was stopping you from getting full of holes
however one, or two shots would not have enough energy to drive you down to the ground
Surprisingly, it doesn't do a very good job of that.
ceramic armor is capable of stopping more shots than people think, some tests have found it capable of stopping 5-10 shots with minimal integrity loss
Preventing you from dying outright is the best thing standard issue can really do.
yes it does
i know a navy corpsman who served, plates stop bullets all the time
from medival weapon to ranting about how wearing armour is stupid
truly
a pog champ moment
puts comically small punching glove on bullet
yes thats common sense
fuck u got me
It's a terrible idea to assume that it will be perfectly capable of protecting you at all times.
how to kill someone instantly
Especially with how wonky ballistics can be.
who said that
yeah nobody said that
where is that babble coming from
I'm just reinforcing my opinion.
frogscast is changing the topic constantly out of an attempt to stay "correct"
I never claimed anybody said that.
.
dude i just wanted to goon over plate armour
Anyone who knows armor knows relying on it to be some kind of magic shield is dumb
You would be surprised at how many people actually do think that's how it works.
I was going to make a rimworld reference with that
did anyone here give the notion that that was how it works?
well obviously, that's what the magic shields are for
where's my magic shield :(
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my face is my shield
No? Did I say anyone did? I was just making a statement. Don't go looking for an argument where there isn't one.
my brother in christ i said i will still wear a helmet
that's it I'm gonna start an argument
im not looking for an argument, im asking why you bothered bringing up the topic when there was no reason whatsoever to
At this point I have no idea what the point being made was
It's like the entire point was arguing against something no one said

wearing armor better than not wearing armor
getting shot still bad tho
Which is kinda based in a way
I never said you couldn't. I just made statements on why I wouldn't wear one for medieval combat. Modern helmets, I would still wear.
A man needs to fight his demons every once in a while
Perfect synopsis!
you wouldnt wear a helmet in medieval combat??
why???
no you were covincing wearing a helmet is stupid because it doesnt stop a bullet
getting shot at however is not something that can always be prevented
you wouldn't wear a helmet for medieval combat?
Because blunt weaponry is the most prevalent thing and I would rather die without being tired as hell.
armour was still useful even against blunt weaponry
I was saying a helmet won't stop a sling from caving your head in.
so wearing armor better than not wearing armor
yes
Because it won't.
with a helmet, you could take multiple hits from a mace without dying, without a helmet youd be lucky to not be dead after the first hit
according to everyone who had to go to war throughout human history, yeah
ok sure lemme mace my opponent aswell
golly gee willikers
with a helmet? ill walk away with a concussion
I'm just saying, my choice would be to not wear a helmet.
I mean that's better than the alternative of getting your head caved in on the first hit
why.
There's nothing wrong with that.
without a helmet you'll just get an arrow through the skull
protagonist syndrome
Y'all are free to wear your helmets as you please.
bro watched too many fantasy movies
hes gonna pop revenge and 1v4 dude
watch
Frogcast is a named character
For Honor mentioned
no mordhau
He's the pink-haired character in the high school anime
Oh
Hush
bro is NOT sakki

There is no emoji available on this server to explain my depression at being compared to some pink-haired anime character.
I understand if you dont want to wear a full head helmet because that actually can mess you up but why not just wear one without the mask?
what the fuck is ur name
whats the fucking point of armor when i have 3 toughness curios
CP??!?!?!?!?!??!?
so im not the only one who noticed
