#zealot-class

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cerulean moth
hushed agate
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I hated than gun

hushed agate
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Youll get flayed

cerulean moth
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I hate them all.

hushed agate
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Ughh i need to go farm the event in warframe before it expires

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I dont have energize maxed

cerulean moth
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fellas

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do we dare

maiden path
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yes

hushed agate
cerulean moth
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I think it'd work

hushed agate
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It would not

cerulean moth
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zealots tree got front loaded with some good ass talents

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nah bro

hushed agate
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Trust me this will suck ass

cerulean moth
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TWBS is all i need

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OH yeah right

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unaugmented chastie

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oh its ass

ivory marlin
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Omg insane freak hi

cerulean moth
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HOLY SHIT

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ITS A PUNKIN

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PUMPKIN

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Yeah

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I get why its there but

hushed agate
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John Ya Kuza my beloved

maiden path
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tommys matchbook inflicts scorch, scorch spreads, scorch kills gives class ability, class ability gives restoration, scorch kills extend restoration

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I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE

fleet zealot
gray ice
median steeple
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HOly shit

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this mod is peak

gray ice
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Why he do that tho

glacial stratus
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@royal vortex is this perk worth it for the knoife zealot?

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
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you get DR from crit and toughness from good balance

royal vortex
glacial stratus
median steeple
fleet zealot
median steeple
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itchy head

royal vortex
visual stream
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woe, +3 wound smyker upon ye

hushed knoll
spare dome
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you smoosh it down

spare talon
hushed knoll
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Are you sure

median steeple
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104% sure with a 4% margin of error

austere lagoon
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how do i make this better

fleet zealot
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crit chance to unyielding or maybe even carapace, at least elite or maniac

spare talon
vestal pine
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lacerate

median steeple
median steeple
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this stupid ass marv mod is great

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but I couldn't play with that playing in my ear all the time

spare talon
visual stream
median steeple
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I never give randos stims besides injecting them myself

fleet zealot
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oh i haven't done silo cluster once since the penance update

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i gave a random a stim once cause they were doing good work, just a med stim cause a teammate downed em with a burster

spare talon
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this is why i only let them have stims i dont want

crisp furnace
spare talon
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and only let them have a med stim if i have one myself

crisp furnace
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Blue stims are mine

fleet zealot
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med stim is bis

crisp furnace
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Blue is bis

visual stream
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The way we are 100% super elitist for these takes but we're completely right

nimble fiber
spare talon
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i dont want to be a selfish prick
but tons of experience has taught me that the med stim is getting way more mileage in my hands than anyone else 9 times out of 10

visual stream
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If I see someone is cracked or at least decent they'll get it

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If they're last wound and no medicae is coming soon and I'm fine then I'll inject them there too

fleet zealot
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every other stim i get mental with

visual stream
fleet zealot
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i save it for the entire game and never use it

dark zealot
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I’m taking stim to keep me alive so I can keep them alive

fleet zealot
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meanwhile med stim, instantly gets my back up

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i'm only stimming allies with green stim if i know they are worth it

visual stream
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I honestly will take a concentration stim over a med stim when I'm on my VoC vet or zealot

dark zealot
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Plus I trust myself to use it on someone else if they are at last wound

visual stream
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But it's still a hard choice

fleet zealot
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if someone been sucking ass and they are at last wound? i'll just let them die again

dark zealot
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I don’t trust others to do that for one another or myself

visual stream
dark zealot
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Red stim is for ogryns with the funny guns

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Juicing them up can be funny

spare talon
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I haven't adjusted my personal stim priority after the zealot nerfs

dark zealot
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Blue makes me faster? Idk

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Yellow I can’t be bothered with if I want cool-downs I can do that passively

spare talon
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Cuz previously it was
Yellow<blue<red<green

visual stream
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I hope the chastise fix is coming soon

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...or at all

median steeple
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what it reseting your charged heavies?

fleet zealot
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snack time

visual stream
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Yeah

fleet zealot
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only on some weapons

median steeple
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yeah but lets be honest with ourselves

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fatshark ain't fixing that

visual stream
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People say it doesn't affect H1s in progress but it does, it resets the animation on that too

fleet zealot
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you know it's some real spaghetti if it only breaking some weapons

median steeple
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OP is STILL BUGGED

fleet zealot
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i doubt it will be fixed

spare talon
visual stream
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At least on helm

fleet zealot
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see the thing is right i can confirm chastise isn't breaking every weapon's h1 so

spare talon
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I'm coping so fucking hard

median steeple
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it's also bugged on evis

dark zealot
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Ngl I have a soft spot for ogryns, like I’d rather keep them alive or juice them up with stims than a vet or space witch

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Speaking of the witches I swear I have not seen many lately

median steeple
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I hate how pubs deal with poxbursters

visual stream
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Chastise breaking attacks was a shadow buff(/making the pick even more viable) for knives

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Which is lame asl

patent patrol
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I thought the nerfs to crit builds would be such a huge blow. I don't notice a difference lol. Hell, 100% melee rending is TECHNICALLY a buff

dark zealot
hidden vessel
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Is doing x mission type penances bugged rn?

median steeple
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ye

visual stream
merry flume
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just had prob the most toxic darktide game just now with a turbo redditor that stalled with stealth and 2 randoms that refused to kick

visual stream
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Funny enough I see ogryns do that ALL the fucking time

merry flume
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good thing his ego too big to take a L, i died and pooped and came back to a win

visual stream
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Why do they just hit the burster multiple times in a row

dark zealot
fleet zealot
dark zealot
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But if you befriend the Ogryn they will keep you alive

fleet zealot
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people who complain about them are absolutely crutched as fuck

visual stream
vestal pine
fleet zealot
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literally couldn't play the game without having their ability as part of their normal attack rotation

merry flume
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haha funny

median steeple
austere lagoon
dark zealot
drowsy steppe
vestal pine
# spare talon

i cant remember if trapper rescue makes you 3rd person

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is that a mod

dark zealot
patent patrol
dark zealot
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Ya know one time I smacked a barrel and this guy just goes out of his way to get blown away by it

patent patrol
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or somethin.

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I don't remember

visual stream
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Only thing I'm pressed about is that bolter is even more mid than it already was KEKW_ogryn No compensation for taking away its only niche on zealot?

spare talon
dark zealot
visual stream
patent patrol
vestal pine
patent patrol
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it leads to more variety for said role.

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at least imo

patent patrol
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I'm a Laspistol enjoyer

vestal pine
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agrapina revo for life

fleet zealot
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not everything needed a buff

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lol

visual stream
fleet zealot
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compensation buffs aren't a necessity

vestal pine
dark zealot
vestal pine
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ye

fleet zealot
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anyways

patent patrol
vestal pine
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i like that very much

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i dont like zarona

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bad gun

fleet zealot
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just saw the latest chainsawman chapter

patent patrol
fleet zealot
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psyker is the most braindead of all rn

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but it has absolute smooth brains dragging down the winrate

vestal pine
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psyker also dont have much variety

visual stream
dark zealot
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You guys see psykers?

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I don’t

vestal pine
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contributing to braindead options being allowed

dark zealot
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I get vets, zealots and ogryns

vestal pine
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the bolter is fine

median steeple
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last game I played today I had 3 psykers

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all being seer

vestal pine
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idk why people run calvacide though it deals way less damage to crushers

fleet zealot
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psyker has void, trauma and smite and those are all top tier

vestal pine
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you forgot pruga

patent patrol
fleet zealot
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purge is good but it isn't op

patent patrol
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and having strong abilities

visual stream
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We need a psyker-ist emote of some kind

vestal pine
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simple and braindead and stupidly overpowered

patent patrol
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it's more restricted

visual stream
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Encourage hating witches

fleet zealot
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purge is just, purge it isn't the insane level of trauma or smite which invalidate it

dark zealot
hollow lintel
fleet zealot
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and ds4 being a warcrime

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i love ds4

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i hope zealot never gets it cause it would have to be nerfed

patent patrol
fleet zealot
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imagine 50% attack speed buffed ds4

vestal pine
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man dark souls 4 looking spiffy

patent patrol
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it has SOME BUILDS that are strong, but all classes do

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so.

maiden path
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gawkdkamn buetufikelk/.........

vestal pine
fleet zealot
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nah

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their best builds are OP asf

vestal pine
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if not im again advocating for psyker is dead

fleet zealot
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they have no hard node tax in talents

visual stream
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Psyker having really good damage is kinda offset by generally less survivability imo

fleet zealot
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they have great survivability

median steeple
visual stream
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They can get very silly though

hollow lintel
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that would be the case if they didn't also have insane CC

patent patrol
fleet zealot
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they jsut get punished if they fuck up

vestal pine
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which doesnt matter when half their arsenal is survivalist kings

hollow lintel
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trauma needs a nerf and smite needs to be removed from the game entirely

fleet zealot
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knife crit zealot

dark zealot
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Ohhh I remember the last psyker I had

fleet zealot
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is not fuckin trauma/void/smite trifecta

vestal pine
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smite exists in 40k univ

dark zealot
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It was the bubble hallucinations

fleet zealot
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smite got fucking buffed when it didn't need one cause dumbass mercy mains dragging down the winrate going EP shield smit

vestal pine
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least something similar

fleet zealot
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instead of WC shield smite

median steeple
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playing psyker with new gunners is crazy. If you don't run shield and you mess up once you get nuked

vestal pine
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but anything that can replace it?

hollow lintel
dark zealot
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Remember how the bubble was visually broken and like we were on some mad drugs

fleet zealot
dark zealot
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That was scary

hollow lintel
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it keeps the smite animation, no VFX and only hits one enemy

vestal pine
hollow lintel
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so you're just tickling them

vestal pine
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you cant tell me brainburst isnt tickling shit

fleet zealot
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besides plasma gun vet nothing else in the game comes close to psykers silliness

patent patrol
visual stream
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Replacing smite with mind controlling an enemy to attack another enemy one time would be really fun :^)

fleet zealot
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BRs issue is that it needs too much investment

visual stream
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Wouldnt work on monstros obvi

fleet zealot
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when you can just throw balls or assail at the target instead

median steeple
fleet zealot
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zarona is ammo limited and while it's busted

patent patrol
vestal pine
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zealot is dead

fleet zealot
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i don't think it is AS busted as psyker shit

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zealot is fine

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we are still good

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i could use more adjustments but i'm fine

dark zealot
vestal pine
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yes

hollow lintel
hollow lintel
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smite is the thing that pauses the game

patent patrol
fleet zealot
visual stream
median steeple
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I love smite psyker but I hate the mfs who spam it

fleet zealot
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knife is an all class weapon and suffers from "if you nerf it for zealot you might make it worthless on psyker, maybe even vet"

hollow lintel
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i hate smite psyker.

patent patrol
dark zealot
patent patrol
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Is that it?

hollow lintel
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unhealthy for the game, cope

vestal pine
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smite should only stun the first target it lays hands on or something idk

visual stream
median steeple
hollow lintel
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either make some elites like ragers be immune to smite, or add a new blank type enemy that negates some magicku stuff in an area

patent patrol
hollow lintel
fleet zealot
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void staff charges up big orbs (and gets a blessing to shoot 2 orbs when it crits so like 4x damage on crit)

vestal pine
visual stream
median steeple
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it doesn't pause the game just walk up to the enemies and HIT THEM

fleet zealot
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and psykers have a talent that gives a crit after 5 weakspot hits, this is not limited per projectile

vestal pine
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i like the idea of channeling

fleet zealot
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so you can just mow down entire chokepoints with void staff

dark zealot
vestal pine
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but smite is either only CC or killes everything

patent patrol
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Aside from that

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I didn’t notice anything insane

median steeple
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The only time I hate smite psyker is when the game fucks my camera (Flashing Lights warning)

visual stream
fleet zealot
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cause you'll PROC surge every fire

fleet zealot
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it is unbalanced

hollow lintel
vestal pine
visual stream
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Can be very good with talent investment iirc but I'm not the most knowledgable on psyker

hollow lintel
fleet zealot
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EP smtie can melt an entire horde of ragers in 8 seconds, in an absolute massive cone AND IT Doesn'tinclude the soulblaze and vent talents

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it's so fucking dumb

vestal pine
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i go crazy about zealot nerfs but i think they shouls just nerf enemies in general, kill vet and murder psyker

patent patrol
fleet zealot
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you can kill any none monstro/non crusher in a cone infront of you, each channel only costing 1 EP charge

patent patrol
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What?

hollow lintel
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but fatshark is stepping on eggshells

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prob why plasma hasn't been touched and columnus got a teeeeny tiny nerf

vestal pine
fleet zealot
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and it's not a small cone

median steeple
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Mfs be saying smite pauses hordes when hitting hordes with heavies stunlocks them already

patent patrol
vestal pine
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if we go EP smite, it kills everything within 30m unless its a ogryn or mauler in said secknds

hollow lintel
patent patrol
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It’s not pausing the game

fleet zealot
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not anymore

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it just kills everything

vestal pine
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smite kills faster btw

fleet zealot
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cause then PC and creeping flames proc

hollow lintel
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smite stuns everything other than a monstrosity, from range

vestal pine
fleet zealot
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and you get venting shriek

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and then you get quell on kill procs

hollow lintel
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while being able to dodge and slide if anything escapes smite

fleet zealot
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and then cdr procs

dark zealot
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I have a solution

vestal pine
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can someone get smite melding gunners

median steeple
dark zealot
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You might not like it though

fleet zealot
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yea and you have void and ds4 for things smit doesn't kill

dark zealot
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Kill the witches

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Explode em with barrels

median steeple
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I do think smite shouldn't stun ogryns however

hollow lintel
median steeple
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that is stupid

dark zealot
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They can’t parry your barrelmancy

patent patrol
# fleet zealot it just kills everything

… Either we’re not playing the same game or the Psykers I run into are built wrong because I never had a situation like that. They just stunned shit like they’re role playing Emperor Palpatine and I walk over and whack em

median steeple
fleet zealot
hollow lintel
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yeah you're dreaming of me rn

fleet zealot
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people use smite like shit then it get buffs

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further widening the gap between shitsmiters

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and people who know what they are doing

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LOOK at that kill zone

median steeple
fleet zealot
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everything maulers and below

vestal pine
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tbh, i think brainburst being a very short channeling option that has a decent stagger and kinda bad aoe damage like bolter explosions work and smite being a channeling option that targets a single entity, slightly staggers(not infinite) nearby targets and channeling longer makes a big explosion of the main target doing large AoE for a long channeling sounds neat

fleet zealot
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dead

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in 8 seconds

patent patrol
fleet zealot
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in a massive area

dark zealot
vestal pine
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@fleet zealot get a

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actual

fleet zealot
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with no care about desnity, in fact PC and quell on kill talents MAKE it faster

vestal pine
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recording

fleet zealot
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like go click the links

hollow lintel
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let it kill things, make it not stun any melee elites

vestal pine
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cause i dont think he gets it

fleet zealot
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i linked 2 images

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showing the death area

vestal pine
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also smite not killing isnt fun also

patent patrol
fleet zealot
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of EP vent smite

vestal pine
fleet zealot
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surge isa ligthning single target staff

hollow lintel
dark zealot
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Tbf we have a flame thrower

fleet zealot
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not considered as good as void but it pumps out alright single target

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flame thrower is ammo limited and doesn't CC everything

vestal pine
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surge is pretty fun stsff

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honestly one of the more better designed cc staffs

median steeple
hollow lintel
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also slow pull+aim

median steeple
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NOW

fleet zealot
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nor does flamer proc PC

vestal pine
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flamer has ammo issues

patent patrol
dark zealot
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Flamer could be better though

vestal pine
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nice job furret

dark zealot
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If they fixed the blessings

fleet zealot
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idk why they are so big images

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i linked them before

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that's the kill area

vestal pine
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the answer is we dont need a giant deathCC on psyker

hollow lintel
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they should make the aim animation for the flamer a bit quicker

vestal pine
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denies any game experience even less fun than of VoC

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which is saying something lmfao

patent patrol
hollow lintel
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it's a bit silly it's so slow since you can't take adantage of it's range as much

fleet zealot
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it's just cause A) we have shitty mercy main supports who use smite like shit and drag the winrate down

dark zealot
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They should turn on friendly fire against psykers

hollow lintel
patent patrol
fleet zealot
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everything in that zone will be dead in 8 seconds, if not faster

patent patrol
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XD.

fleet zealot
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PC procs, venting soulblaze

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all these synergies on top of eachother

vestal pine
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smite should just be channeling to deal large AoE damage while stunning

dark zealot
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Pc?

hollow lintel
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and even before the buffs, smite+soulblaze shriek still killed any horde

patent patrol
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helps control the hordes.

vestal pine
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peril combustion, the 3 soulblaze

patent patrol
hollow lintel
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it disables the hordes and elites

fleet zealot
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i've cleared a horde and was at a less peril than when i started

hollow lintel
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it's not a quick stun or knockback, you pause them for several seconds

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it's absurd

patent patrol
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So wait, what's the argument? Remove smite or just make it less of a death cone and more of just area control?

vestal pine
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if they nerf smite though its a "worse trauma staff" by tanner is kinda right

hollow lintel
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kill smite

patent patrol
median steeple
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people were complaining about smite before it got buffed to do damage because pyskers who took it were downright useless (also assail existed which def contributed) I do think smite shouldn't stun ragers and ogryns however

hollow lintel
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dropkick smite off a cliff

patent patrol
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it stuns shit.

vestal pine
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they really should rework smite

median steeple
hollow lintel
vestal pine
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idk do 40k psyker can summon a bright soulblaze sun that can nuke a area?

median steeple
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besides bulwarks because they're boring to fight

fleet zealot
hollow lintel
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what does that have to do with game balance?

fleet zealot
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EP smite

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is one charge per channel

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with venting and cdr

patent patrol
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yeah no.

fleet zealot
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youc an vent tweince while smiting in perfect scenario

vestal pine
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ogryns are funny

fleet zealot
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and be smiting for ages

median steeple
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I mean scab ragers are piss easy to kill

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dregs seem to be killing people now for some reason

patent patrol
vestal pine
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scabs are

patent patrol
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They're still piss easy to kill.

median steeple
vestal pine
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not existing

hollow lintel
fleet zealot
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I'M SMITING SO HARD

median steeple
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FS made them attack faster and now people are folding like paper

vestal pine
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tbh

hollow lintel
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and end up letting them get close, or just don't use weapons w cc

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its funny to watch

median steeple
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like you have a gun just shoot the bastards

fleet zealot
vestal pine
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the new dreg ragers are finer than the infinite range once the animation starts variant we had before

patent patrol
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anyway point is I think Smite shouldn't be able to stun Crushers, Bulwarks, Reapers, basically any big enemies. MAYBE slightly stagger them up close but

vestal pine
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i like the current one more

patent patrol
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it shouldn't be a win card against em

median steeple
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Nah fuck bulwarks seeing them suffer is always great

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Not hard just annoying

patent patrol
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That'd make no sense

vestal pine
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smite just should be a small AoE nuke, like target 1 enemy, you charge and smite, the enemy gets electrocute and blows up dealing damage and stagger across the nearby enemies

patent patrol
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both have the same armor

patent patrol
vestal pine
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largervenemy you target longer it takes and more damage it deals

patent patrol
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lol

vestal pine
patent patrol
vestal pine
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ah

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it could be nice

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i think channeling option to deal big or bust is interesting though

patent patrol
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basically fire an electric ball thing, it hits the ground, sets up like an aoe field that stuns shit in it and lasts for like... 3-5 seconds. It's like a circle tho similar to immolation grenades

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so it's not like

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"oh death cone"

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it's more like area control

vestal pine
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assail is the only one psyker doesnt have to commit rn

hollow lintel
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so firestorm

vestal pine
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brainburst takes forever

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smite is smite

patent patrol
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or something

hollow lintel
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as long as the aoe is tiny

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cause infinite resource and all

vestal pine
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tbh, its mostly cause psyker doesnt have a limit

patent patrol
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at most

vestal pine
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immo is pretty huge

patent patrol
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just a circle

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in that area.

patent patrol
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so

median steeple
patent patrol
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That's a thing?

median steeple
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For hounds at least yes

patent patrol
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right?

median steeple
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You'd think

patent patrol
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you mean to tell me.

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a laspistol shot to the head

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can kill a hound

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but not a gun loaded with explosive rounds

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that can blast through carapace

patent patrol
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that's what I'm supposed to believe?

median steeple
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have you shot a hound with a bolt pistol and compared to any other ranged weapon?

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it's hilarious

vestal pine
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i kinda want it to be similar to the current surge, but it jumps more to stun nearby targets
basically main target gets stunned regardless, and nearby lesser enemies(no elites and special) gets stunned(8 of them), and then you can channel more of your smite to stun it longer. and if you stop channeling the main target gets a electric explosion that deals moderate damage to nearby targets
if you kill the min target it deals higher damage than that

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etc

vestal pine
patent patrol
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like, this game's already never made sense balance wise

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Is Smite being op REALLY that crazy?

vestal pine
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because bolter still kills every other special

median steeple
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yea

vestal pine
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smite is

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unfunilly op

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voc is more fun

median steeple
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VoC is fun because it has good voicelines

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smite has like none

vestal pine
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or zealot infinite charge

patent patrol
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... Man now I'mma get shit on for running my damn emperor palpatine Psyker

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😭

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Sadness

hollow lintel
vestal pine
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where zealot screams blooood for the emperor every 3 second

median steeple
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assail is the only psyker nade to get voicelines

patent patrol
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not like

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actually

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like obviously it itself is crazy op

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but I mean like

hollow lintel
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voc needs a bit of a nerf too

patent patrol
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based on the history and bs

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this game has

hollow lintel
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shit balance? fair

patent patrol
#

is Smite being op that crazy and foreign?

vestal pine
#

zealot is dead until vet and psyker gets nerfed

patent patrol
hollow lintel
#

i just appreciate people being more vocal about it

patent patrol
hollow lintel
#

vermintide took ages to fix the worst examples of broken stuff

patent patrol
#

Fuck you I chastise

fleet zealot
#

Idk if it’s all shit balance or fatshark inexperience

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I think they balanced smite off winrate

hollow lintel
#

zealot is dead?

vestal pine
#

or worse, listened to idiots like tanner

fleet zealot
#

And smite is notoriously dragged down by mercy mains, support mains

vestal pine
#

why did they specifically buff EP smite anyway

fleet zealot
#

People who think they shouldn’t do damage for some reaosn

patent patrol
#

martyr zealot is still solid.

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and hell, even the crit build still does fine

hollow lintel
#

i just go swift momentum now

patent patrol
#

from what I tried of it

fleet zealot
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The theory is that bad players were going ep smite shield which sucks ass cause you don’t have vent and you dont have warp charges for shield

hollow lintel
#

always loved it but ended up getting piety cuz infinite ults

vestal pine
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i just say he's ded cause other op class can do his shit kek

patent patrol
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the nerfs aren't fully noticable, at least to me.

fleet zealot
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Made ep smite winrate look bad when ep vent smite was already great

patent patrol
hollow lintel
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nerfs made me stop bruteforcing maps with zealot which is nice

vestal pine
fleet zealot
#

No other class has the sheer tempo zealot has

patent patrol
fleet zealot
#

Psword has no dodges and vet has shit stam regen

median steeple
north sedge
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Zealot is still very strong don't listen to lacerate's incessant whining

median steeple
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it's just you have less safety nets

fleet zealot
#

Also plasma is just a crutch

hollow lintel
fleet zealot
patent patrol
fleet zealot
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You have to talent into it

hollow lintel
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it has two stamina delay nodes, making it regen faster than even my psyker

north sedge
#

Vet baseline stam regen is terrible

hollow lintel
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plus that one broken talent

fleet zealot
#

Zealot has the best base stam regen in the game

hollow lintel
#

baseline yeah

vestal pine
hollow lintel
#

you guys are playing without spending skill points? damn

drowsy steppe
#

they get 2 nodes to reduce the delay but you're fucking degen for unironically trying to get both

fleet zealot
#

Yes 2 nodes both deep on each end of the tree

hollow lintel
fleet zealot
#

And many vets don’t go either

patent patrol
vestal pine
#

zealot ded

hollow lintel
fleet zealot
#

Vet has optional stam stuff but baseline psword combat is so fucking finnicky

median steeple
#

honestly I forget the stam regen nodes existed I don't think I grab either ( I don't remember)

patent patrol
fleet zealot
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One slip up

north sedge
fleet zealot
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Low dodge count and shit stam

median steeple
#

push attacks bugging out half the time is part of the charm that is psword

hollow lintel
#

also the infinite stamina printer

patent patrol
#

oh well

fleet zealot
#

Yes but it’s an optional talents

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All zealots are melee gods with high tempo no other class can match

patent patrol
fleet zealot
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Ogryn can match and exceed our melee power

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But not our speed

hollow lintel
fleet zealot
#

Commando is a juggler and hybrid

hollow lintel
#

both .25s delay reduction nodes as well gigachad

patent patrol
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Lol.

fleet zealot
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I grab both stam nodes as well but lol not every build can fucking grab them especially if you want keystone investment (or middle keystone at all while having no free points for above)

hollow lintel
#

zealot's relic is still amazing, and i hope VoC gets the nerf it deserves so relic can shine more

fleet zealot
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No fucking way

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Voc beats chorus ass

hollow lintel
#

yeah

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it shouldn't

fleet zealot
#

Chorus drops ur dps to zero

hollow lintel
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that's my point

patent patrol
#

Voc?

median steeple
#

voice of command

patent patrol
#

what's Voc again?

hollow lintel
#

voice of command

vestal pine
#

zealot can get about 50% swingspeed and vet can get 25%

patent patrol
#

ah

hollow lintel
#

veteran fart ult

fleet zealot
#

I want relic to be more like shout im not joking

patent patrol
#

fart

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and get buffs

vestal pine
#

zealot ded

patent patrol
#

👍 balanced.

hollow lintel
#

and it's so foul it gets even nurglites to stagger in shock

fleet zealot
#

It’s merc captain shout

hollow lintel
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THATS WHAT IM SAYING

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NERF IT

fleet zealot
#

And everyone loved merc captain

vestal pine
#

i like the relic

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its cool

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but its not voc

hollow lintel
#

make it not give you gold toughness or something

fleet zealot
#

I want smite to not be a channel

hollow lintel
#

make it exclusive to relic

fleet zealot
#

Have it be an active aura and just increase the delay between pulses

vestal pine
fleet zealot
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So i can actually deal damage

patent patrol
fleet zealot
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And then i’ll consider it

hollow lintel
#

aye

fleet zealot
#

The channeling does nothing for zealot it’s so bleh

vestal pine
#

that too

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concept of channeling is interesting

fleet zealot
#

The channel for veteran just constantly yelling would make more sense

vestal pine
#

except most things in darktide doesnt give you much

fleet zealot
#

Like some moral speech but also shouted at high volume

median steeple
#

I wouldn't mind channeling if you got a decent buff if you let it play all the way through

vestal pine
#

exec is probably the best chanlling skilll idk

vestal pine
#

🤡

hollow lintel
#

can you even call it channeling?

fleet zealot
#

Exec being a “channel” fucks with me

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It kinda is, cant swap cant do other actions and certain attacks will break it

patent patrol
vestal pine
#

would you guys use the relic upgrade nodes if it lasted for 30 seconds?

fleet zealot
#

Ie being near a chaos soawn

fleet zealot
#

The relic upgrade node sucks

patent patrol
hollow lintel
#

no cause i don't ever find it worth it to channel relic for that long

median steeple
#

what does it even do again?

fleet zealot
#

Expectinf your team to use the buff is lmao

hollow lintel
#

if they were incremental power buffs that refreshed which each pulse, maybe

median steeple
#

nvm

fleet zealot
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Thinking 20% damage for 10 seconds makes up for the fact you were just doing 0% damage for an entire channel

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Also lmao

vestal pine
#

i give up dps and still chorus for the full duration tbh

hollow lintel
fleet zealot
#

Yes cause you are silly korean player bringer the korean meta to the west

hollow lintel
#

cause whenever i pull relic out it seems my team is just as staggered as the enemies

median steeple
#

Chorus is more useful for premades when you know people will actually make up for the lost damage

patent patrol
#

what do people recommend on heavy swords again?

vestal pine
#

headtaker deathblow

fleet zealot
patent patrol
fleet zealot
#

The deathblow rework made it better than rampage

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It’s just sword brutal momentum

patent patrol
fleet zealot
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So you can kill 4 elites in one swing

vestal pine
#

rampage was meta once before deathblow became brutal momentum mk2

patent patrol
#

if I get unlucky?

hollow lintel
#

heavy sword needs all the help it can gets versus armor

fleet zealot
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It’s fine but it’s outshined

hollow lintel
#

you won't have 100% rampage uptime

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so better to pick headtaker

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both are viable tho

fleet zealot
#

Like once you get dblow you win’t ever want to pick up rampage again

patent patrol
fleet zealot
#

Headtaker is just hella consistent and dblow lets you fill the kill feed 4 elites at a time

hollow lintel
#

that works

median steeple
#

I for one welcome the age of heavy sword being overshadowed

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hated that weapon

patent patrol
vestal pine
#

idk why the relic's secondary buffs only apply after the channeling has ended

median steeple
cerulean moth
#

gang gang man

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fuck that HS shit

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ITS EVISORATOR OR DIE

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BABY

vestal pine
#

idk how to use evi now

cerulean moth
#

and I don't mean the boring new one either

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OG one

fleet zealot
#

Problem with rampage deathblow is that yiu can’t proc it on 1-2 targets and you can get armor blocked

patent patrol
# median steeple I hate boring ass weapons

Every time I see you in these chats you're always bitching about a weapon. Also just because you hate how boring a weapon is doesn't mean it should become bad or whatever cause other people can enjoy it.

median steeple
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Like psword is boring but at least it's a 40k weapon and unique and not something that's real

cerulean moth
#

martry builld

hollow lintel
vestal pine
fleet zealot
#

Chaxe 4 life

cerulean moth
#

ahh lemme check

median steeple
vestal pine
median steeple
#

since it's new

vestal pine
#

throw out twbs to get the middle aura

fleet zealot
#

And ironically

patent patrol
#

I use ironhelm thammer

fleet zealot
#

Knaifu for life-u

patent patrol
vestal pine
#

savage and ramp

patent patrol
#

get that meta shit outta here smh

vestal pine
#

i should get one

fleet zealot
hollow lintel
#

mk2? based???

cerulean moth
#

its the best one

fleet zealot
#

Jeez

cerulean moth
#

more fun

vestal pine
#

i dont think mk15 offers me anything rn

patent patrol
cerulean moth
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cause of the funny swings

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gotta use dat combo right

patent patrol
#

it's called playing into the bit

hollow lintel
#

yeah mk2 is a blast

cerulean moth
#

also it goes hard in a marty build (everything does but still)

fleet zealot
median steeple
#

evis is a boring weapon but like everything is since I've played since the beta, what I mean is why tf was the heavy sword a better anti armor weapon than the thammer (before all the changes and stuff)

patent patrol
median steeple
#

conceptually the heavy sword is a bland asf weapon

patent patrol
#

Lol.

median steeple
#

same with zarona

vestal pine
median steeple
#

At least with catachan it has the parry

vestal pine
#

would you guys call dualing sword a boring weapon?

fleet zealot
#

If heavy sword was a proper claymore or something it would be cooler

hollow lintel
#

dude hates cool weapons that exist in the real world

fleet zealot
#

But it’s just a scimitar

hollow lintel
#

just duct tape some chains to your heavy sword

vestal pine
#

tbh idk how to use chainsword 13g

#

i dont like its heavys

fleet zealot
#

I want big greatsword not a bastard (sword term not insult) scimitar

median steeple
fleet zealot
#

Hand and a half sized scimitar

hollow lintel
vestal pine
cerulean moth
#

some for honor highlander type shit

fleet zealot
#

Ds4 is so giga busted boring but also the only rhing i’ll run

cerulean moth
fleet zealot
vestal pine
cerulean moth
#

FH mentioned

fleet zealot
#

And it has room on the handle for it

median steeple
vestal pine
cerulean moth
#

Give HS lacerate

vestal pine
#

from what i remember

cerulean moth
#

interesting weapon

median steeple
#

I think dueling had some goofy fucking damage ( I don't know if its been touched at all)

vestal pine
#

it hadnt

median steeple
#

augh

vestal pine
# fleet zealot There is some swings that use both hands

Something we might not think about very often. But you can use an arming sword with two hands. And there’s historical precedent for doing so at times!

Just a quick one to hopefully provoke some thoughts.

Cheers!

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median steeple
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Yam is right we need a power greatsword

vestal pine
#

like idk if its just a saber that you for some reason use 2h grip for heavys(arming swords in vt2 also did this) or actually being a bastard sword

median steeple
#

we need that one from the datamined stuff at launch

cerulean moth
#

ended that shit RIGHT there man

median steeple
#

kill them

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fr

vestal pine
#

seems neat

cerulean moth
#

i just wanted to use a sword man ):

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got called larp boy

vestal pine
#

idk

#

larping is definitely where swords get used

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but its cool regardless

fleet zealot
#

I want a big fuck off sword that isn’t evi

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Power greatsword when

vestal pine
#

ds5 on zealot could be neat

fleet zealot
#

Ds4 on zealot

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Instant bustin

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You thought knife was bad

vestal pine
#

still dunno where greatswords were eaten

cerulean moth
#

no

vestal pine
#

vt2 had lotta bad ones

cerulean moth
#

don't fix that typo

#

we eat greatswords now

fleet zealot
#

I mean mk15 is literally executioner sword by scifi

vestal pine
#

thats intentional

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the great horned rat ate them

cerulean moth
#

Then u are cooler than i thought

#

fr fr

fleet zealot
#

Also didn’t elf have some unique greatsword moveset

woeful basin
#

I want the Brett sword in darktide

vestal pine
#

ok but seriously the only greatsword type armament we got was evi

fleet zealot
#

Like, way more graceful

vestal pine
#

we need more

median steeple
#

give us a power greatsword and make its H1 the grail knight slam when charged (it wont be broken trust me bro)

hollow lintel
#

yup

fleet zealot
#

I forogt i barely used greatsword on elf

hollow lintel
#

her greatsword was p much the only useable one before the other ones were buffed

#

still one of her worst melees

woeful basin
vestal pine
#

the heavy was a thrust

fleet zealot
#

I like the black eyes

vestal pine
#

it did jack shit damage but least it was cool

hollow lintel
#

it had some decent weakspot damage

#

but hitting thrusts sucked in vermintide

woeful basin
#

You could make it work on handmaiden

#

But yeah, not great

hollow lintel
#

also bc of Smiter existing, dual weapons were almost always the superior choice

fleet zealot
#

I only played waystalker and maybe shade in chaos wastes

woeful basin
#

The empire greatsword got buffed recently though

cerulean moth
#

Listen on grail knight it was bret sword and executions sword

woeful basin
#

It's pretty decent now

vestal pine
#

axemaiden was the funniest shir i ran

fleet zealot
#

Yee i used sword dagger

woeful basin
#

Can cleave through super armor

cerulean moth
#

whip out the big dick sword for chaos warror

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keep going

#

if u did anything else you are a fake french

vestal pine
#

exec sword got reused for mk15 evi

obsidian prairie
cerulean moth
#

Thats fucked up

hollow lintel
vestal pine
fleet zealot
#

Never could get a handle on glaive but if i try now

hollow lintel
vestal pine
#

and then a greatsword

fleet zealot
#

I might get it done

median steeple
#

thrusts were pretty easy to hit in VT2? besides like on stormvermin

vestal pine
obsidian prairie
#

Brett sword does everything and shield prints toughness and tanks ratlings+flamers

hollow lintel
#

glaive is amazing

woeful basin
#

Mace and sword with exe was the shit

vestal pine
#

bret shield was probably the most amazing

hollow lintel
#

had to twist the camera all the way up to actually hit a headshot

median steeple
#

I guess it depends on the weapon

cerulean moth
#

ill twist u in a minute kiddo

obsidian prairie
median steeple
#

like on rapier it was easy asf to hit thrusts

woeful basin
#

Headshots in vt were a bit jank

obsidian prairie
#

Push-> light loop was the shit

vestal pine
#

thrust is easy, i just remember them doing bad damage for the elf's greatsword
spear, spear&shield, rapier and billhook did gigantic damage

cerulean moth
#

one shotting a armoured rat with dat bret longsword

hollow lintel
#

ah yeah rapier was fairly easy

cerulean moth
#

instant nut

#

just

ivory marlin
#

Bazinga

cerulean moth
#

mess everywhere

#

nut on the punkin

ivory marlin
#

Me too

#

What

woeful basin
#

Amboutabust

cerulean moth
#

ayo?

vestal pine
obsidian prairie
#

It’s pretty easy to oneshot stormvermin with brettsword

cerulean moth
#

yeah that was cool as well

obsidian prairie
#

Heavy 3

ivory marlin
cerulean moth
#

just felt so clean

obsidian prairie
#

Chains easy from push attack

median steeple
#

god I should redownload vt2 but it sucks since it's fucking massive

vestal pine
#

its around 60 now

ivory marlin
#

I miss the bottom text meme

vestal pine
#

not 100

obsidian prairie
#

They downsized it

woeful basin
obsidian prairie
#

Yeah 60.75

cerulean moth
hollow lintel
#

past that you'd need 1 light 2 heavy

vestal pine
#

everyone played on legend so idk

cerulean moth
#

yeah cata freaks

#

GET OUT

obsidian prairie
#

I played like once

cerulean moth
#

nerds

hollow lintel
#

unless you had quirky perks on weaps

cerulean moth
#

Little cata nerds

obsidian prairie
#

On grail knight coincidentally

fleet zealot
#

Legend players being toxic

#

Shocked

hollow lintel
#

cata was nice and usually easier than leg

ivory marlin
cerulean moth
#

nah i played champion

hollow lintel
#

leg had too many shitters expecting a hard carry

cerulean moth
fleet zealot
#

I played veteran /hj

vestal pine
ivory marlin
#

I play psyker

fleet zealot
#

I think the brain damage made me better at tide games

hollow lintel
vestal pine
#

i am

hollow lintel
#

didnt have to tell me

ivory marlin
#

I have a rank 3 vet rank 3 zealot and rank 27 ogryn

woeful basin
fleet zealot
#

Cause i sucked ass at vt2 back when

ivory marlin
#

My psyker is 30

cerulean moth
#

chaos wastes cata is where its the least toxic

median steeple
#

Chaos wastes is peak

cerulean moth
#

it is

woeful basin
cerulean moth
#

it so is

median steeple
#

I need that shit in darktide so badly

hollow lintel
#

us

ivory marlin
#

:D

woeful basin
#

Um

ivory marlin
#

I drew that

woeful basin
#

Boykisser alert

median steeple
#

Put that shit in a space hulk or the underhive I don't care give me chaos wastes

ivory marlin
hollow lintel
#

you're both very talented

ivory marlin
#

Thank you

cerulean moth
#

why did you give it ass like that

vestal pine
cerulean moth
#

shit needs a bra cause its sagging

ivory marlin
hollow lintel
ivory marlin
#

Exactly

cerulean moth
#

fair

#

sorry I didn't know your game like that

#

fr fr

ivory marlin
#

The original drawing was not pixel art

vestal pine
#

when can we get a magfed shotgun

ivory marlin
#

It was converted so i could use it as a gif on my keyboard screen

woeful basin
#

You know what darktide needs?

#

Spray decals

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Like in tf2

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I want the amongus make out gif on the walls of the morning star

ivory marlin
#

Thank you

vestal pine
#

you know what people do when they have creative place to make some shit

#

rule 34

hollow lintel
ivory marlin
#

Im so glad yall appreciate my art

hollow lintel
#

only way i'd ever get kills as spy