instead of spamming screenshots
#zealot-class
south folio
i'm not here to argue for you
like, it is basic argumentative skills to show only the evidence that is relevant and doesn't hurt you
vestal pine
i'm not here to argue for you
then why are you in discord
median steeple
I HATE POX GAS
south folio
cuz i'm here to argue against other people and hate on them
vestal pine
so discording.
jade juniper
just dont breathe the pox gas
median steeple
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iagJ6peCmxdRRFwdt/d13370XtvvqD?invite=cr-MSxTNWQsMTk0NjM5OTEyLA this mission is ass!
I had to race to the next grim before they got to it
holy shit
spare talon
@left iron its doing the same thing
left iron
The enemies refuse to attack?
left iron
Lmao
spare talon
chaos spawn is nowhere to be seen
versed sinew
"Alright, who was it? Who shit my pants?"
I also appreciate Asher
Definitely an underrated character
Hope he comes back as the biggest harpie ever
ripe quest
The new lethal company car is funny
ripe quest
theres a car now?
yee update 55 is in beta rn
spare talon
I also appreciate Asher
heard the seer voice
i knew what must be done
jade juniper
can we power the drill yet
ripe quest
can we power the drill yet
nop
median steeple
jade juniper
im not going back to LC till we can power the drill
versed sinew
heard the seer voice
i knew what must be done
with a healthy handful of disdain for those around him
subtle cedar
is the 2 burst HH still arse?
spare talon
just replace "beloved" with "assistant"
no one can tell the difference
ripe quest
also I am in love with the car
versed sinew
just replace "beloved" with "assistant"
no one can tell the difference
True!
ripe quest
can it kill monsters?
ye
versed sinew
Mine was inspired from another game too, bonus points if you guess what game
median steeple
ripe quest
in that clip I am running over a new enemy + 2 other people
ripe quest
a worthy sacrifice
versed sinew
fucking
LOVE
control
I still havent finished AWE yet
partially because i dont wanna finish the game
spare talon
my zealots name is also named after a character
but its kind of a reference of a reference
median steeple
all of my characters are named after pop culture stuff
im too lazy to think of anything else
versed sinew
my zealots name is also named after a character
which zealot? 
median steeple
I really need to level my og and psyker
versed sinew
im too lazy to think of anything else
i only name characters in games when I'm too baked to speak
versed sinew
I really need to level my og and psyker
dare you to guess which was my first
and I bet yours was ferrix?
median steeple
yeah ferrix was my first character then my zealot
I assume your zealot is your first
versed sinew
yup, then took all those skills to the fat man
median steeple
been playing this game since the CBT but I can't bring myself to get a character to that high of a level
versed sinew
cbt?
median steeple
closed beta test
versed sinew
ah, same
idk, just vet and psyker didnt grab me like these two did
i didnt even make soccermom until big was like, 500+
versed sinew
tbh, i think playing og like zealot is best way to go
bull charge man
fat medic, fat zealot, fat vet
placid fiber
I'm getting omega carried by ice, I think. They are rushing to the end event
median steeple
yapping alert
vestal pine
should've murdered the guy with barrels
versed sinew
i cant read anyway
vestal pine
unless there was no kill spot
median steeple
there was none
but then he died
but then he grabbed the other grim
then we all died
vestal pine
why
median steeple
vestal pine
he died with grim and then he grabbed another
kek
should've grabbed it yourself and ripped it apart lol
median steeple
I did that last game I was in
vestal pine
that sucks
ripe quest
vestal pine
so i do that unless everyone's on full health tbh
median steeple
actual nightmare
spare talon
which zealot? <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
actual zealot
vestal pine
how do you melee dreg ragers now btw? they seem to recover from stagger way faster
visual stream
I thought he was gonna be corny when I saw his name but he's growing on me
spare talon
@hot jolt mercantile seems to be having really bugged end events when speeded
auric maels on it dont seem to bring every enemy with it, only one of the 3 ive done so far has actually brough the boss along, and it spawns malice level of enemies that struggle with actually trying to fight you
like i typed this as i just sat in a corner and blocked whatever they did hit me with stamina
its really brain dead easy
maiden path
@spare talon can I get the lorely helm from exotic archives
i do not feel like doing an 8 hour campaign for a exotic
spare talon
<@142046391504601088> can I get the lorely helm from exotic archives
you cant with armor
royal vortex
@coarse birch thought a shout/plasma vet could outsnipe my exe stance bolter build
spare talon
exotic archives are for exotics that had a quest that no longer exists in the game
royal vortex
plasma vet died within 5 mins and left
making yoshi tonight's worst gambler
laugh at him
coarse birch
what the fuck
hard nexus
how do you melee dreg ragers now btw? they seem to recover from stagger way fast...
shoot them
visual stream
this clip is really funny
Thank you I made it myself 
spare talon
visual stream
i assumed any amount of competence from the vet
a fatal mistake
royal vortex
every pub plasma vet in my lobbies has to suck ass
it is the natural order of things
jade juniper
it takes aim
royal vortex
plasma has one of the largest projectiles in the game
spare talon
it requires you to click the mouse
and be able to move your character
jade juniper
still have to aim it at the enemy
visual stream
Look at this and tell me a person without VoC wouldn't have first-down died here
royal vortex
u get a lotta leeway with what it considers an "aimed shot"
spare talon
they likely struggle with the second
coarse birch
yeah aiming plasma is aiming with training wheels
royal vortex
the new map with exe stance bolter is just insanity
jade juniper
is it shotgun "aim" tho
coarse birch
its not far
royal vortex
jade juniper
front towards enemy, remove enemy
south folio
what the fuck
lol
vestal pine
shoot them
shoot 5 ragers with revolver got it
royal vortex
people say u cant shoot under melee pressure without voc
as if confirmed kill isnt one of the most insane toughness regen talents
u just soak that shit up in between spacebar presses
vestal pine
i should swap to brauto now
south folio
highlights are also pretty goated
vestal pine
seems the best way to deal with ragers now
royal vortex
highlights are also pretty goated
and tag restoring 10% stam per kill
spare talon
which zealot? <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
lestrade is named after gina lestrade, who is directly named after inspector lestrade from sherlock holmes
but i deliberately named my zealot after gina, who is this character
royal vortex
even if u get caught outta position u can push and drop a grenade
spare talon
vestal pine
even if u get caught outta position u can push and drop a grenade
shredder is great
royal vortex
exe stance highlights are broken in a certain way that doesn't really seem apparent once ur good enough at the game
because u can just find specials with sound cues
placid fiber
I mean... it kinda sucks ass, but, it isn't the worst thing I have in my inventory...
coarse birch
wallhacks do kinda remove specials before they are a problem consistently
south folio
my ability to see is brainrotted so the highlights turn out to be a massive boon for my ability to spot them
royal vortex
the real nirvana is being able to immediately peak any sightline you want and remove stuff before anyone can interact with it
royal vortex
my ability to see is brainrotted so the highlights turn out to be a massive boon...
don't u mean fried
hard nexus
shoot 5 ragers with revolver got it
5 ragers 5 bullets
royal vortex
mr stared at the sun
hard nexus
ez math
placid fiber
The worst thing I have in my inventory is probably this, lol
south folio
shut up
royal vortex
fried goose
placid fiber
It is for mostly scab melee missions
south folio
what the hell
coarse birch
arco i think i know what may help with visibility
coarse birch
i would def eat fried arco with a side of lasagna
placid fiber
what the hell
I know... my kantrael xii sucks ass lol
left iron
south folio
<a:cat_stare:964151226423984138>
i'm glad this cat stare is being directed at joshy and yoshy
vestal pine
had better luck with vraks 7
coarse birch
i'm glad this cat stare is being directed at joshy and yoshy
yoshy
placid fiber
The worst thing I have in my inventory is probably this, lol
@left iron Look at how bad it is! XD It is horrible!
left iron
Eh, not the worst thing i've seen
maiden path
exotic archives are for exotics that had a quest that no longer exists in the ga...
but legendary lost sectors used to drop it and now those drop exotic engrams that he can open
oh i can just rank him up and focus it
visual stream
ever been face slammed by a pogryn before
south folio
😇
versed sinew
lestrade is named after gina lestrade, who is directly named after inspector les...
Thats a hard pull from me, but i like it
maiden path
'yea just make the new gun a 5.7'
steel agate
versed sinew
I really wish the character background did more, i made my ogryn a pious resident of a backwater prayer world or some shit
maiden path
I really wish the character background did more, i made my ogryn a pious residen...
i think it does
but its EXTREMELY rare
my old zealot was also from the prayer world
vestal pine
whats the best gun with terrifying barage
maiden path
and i remember he said some shit like 'back home i was a shrine cleaner..........'
versed sinew
man i have an excessive amount of time on ogryn, and not once did i hear him say anything about prayer that didnt also involve rashuns
maiden path
which also makes me think voices used to have forced tie in planets
ive literally only heard it once
and it was already from one of those random convos that have like a 0% chance of happeneing
abstract quail
how’s double barrel shotty on zealot? looks as though there’s no reason to bring it over kantrael
versed sinew
and i remember he said some shit like 'back home i was a shrine cleaner............
i just want my character background to matter
idk maybe in another update that they just dont say anything about
apparently muties can gib in new ways now, and I didnt see anything about that in the patch notes
maiden path
i think the voices all had tied in planets so you couldn't choose where it was from
cadia vet has the voicelines with his one personality only
shit like that
versed sinew
how’s double barrel shotty on zealot? looks as though there’s no reason to bring...
doom: 40k
steel agate
doom: 40k
^
anything in spittin range is either turned into uncanned spam
or on the floor for a ungodly amount of time
versed sinew
ive been screwing around with this one, and despite some of the weirdness im seeing, when it slaps, dear god, ash would be proud
maiden path
nothing hits more then killing some guy with the most bullshit attack ever and going 'hail 2 the king babey...'
vestal pine
is terrifying barage good on the assault shotgun for shooter depression
versed sinew
idk if scattershot is being all that useful, but it seems like it. BB is hilarious with the high reload speed already in place
mix of doom and tf2 scout on a fast moving build imo
maiden path
db's been in the game files for a really fucking long time
the weapon customization mod had it
versed sinew
unsurprising, bolt pistols been in there for a sec
maiden path
i thought it was an ogryn only gun
sterile stone
'yea just make the new gun a 5.7'
That looks like a p99 my gamer
merry flume
coach gun variant thats longer range when
maiden path
but legally distinct enough so they dont get in trouble
versed sinew
wish i could unscrew the barrel as a weapon special or something
steel agate
is terrifying barage good on the assault shotgun for shooter depression
it got good suppressing power already but i do got it on mine so ye its alright at makin a squad of trooper shit their pants
oh wait, im big lier
versed sinew
lol, masterworkd only
sterile stone
We need the fallen shrapnel launcher as a weapon
steel agate
i have TWO shotguns 
sterile stone
A shotgun that just shoots out searing hot shards of metal
maiden path
versed sinew
i have TWO shotguns <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
that looks like fun
sterile stone
There's a Russian gun
I used in stalker anomaly
It looks exactly like that now that I think on it
sterile stone
Bruh
I got a fucking half broken Toz
Trying to fight people with M4s and Galils
With a jammed bolt action shotty
blissful tendon
did i do this right
i know uncanny... exists
but i feel like trying something different for a change
ember yew
without uncanny FT is wasted
cant watch those crushers dying from bleed from <55% HP
but overall just get a mercy killer or uncanny (or precog), with current meta bleed is just for fun
steel agate
that looks like fun
it is i got a discount both barrels with speed loader, plus you gotta love how the shotgun pairs with a very early passive talent 
free damage for using the shotgun like a shotgun
ripe quest
Fatshark robbed us of unlimited cleave FotF armor downgrade DB Crusher 1 shots
and unlimited cleave Assail
smh
stable cypress
throwing knives should inherit boltpistol lethal proximity and flamer showstopper
spare talon
@placid fiber
hard nexus
placid fiber
<@280294444123553792>
Ow, I took 679 damage... 😦
hard nexus
i was wondering what you were laughing at
i figured u missed it lmfao
chrome snow
would this be worth getting from melk even just to keep for when they remove locks
spare talon
would this be worth getting from melk even just to keep for when they remove loc...
if you think its just "removing the locks" you should go read the itemization blogpost
cuz its a lot more than that
shy badge
would this be worth getting from melk even just to keep for when they remove loc...
the chances you get a better one in the next 2-3+ months are very high but melkbuks are also cheap
spare talon
like yeah theyre removing the locks cuz its a completely different system
chrome snow
like yeah theyre removing the locks cuz its a completely different system
i mean yeah I was just saying that to imply that its might not be bricked by its perks/blessings later
could have said it better i guess but you know what I mean
ripe quest
If you're going for maximizing the transfer to the crafting update, just get literally any undiscovered blessing and earn it. It gets transferred to XP for the weapon family and lets you unlock the blessings faster. Even the most bricked weapon rn should be 100% fixable through the crafting update.
The main caveat may be base stats, as they talked about a maximum that was present. It's unsure if this is upgraded w/ resources or if this is weapon dependent.
merry flume
its the modern example of sewing your seeds now to prepare for autum harvest (the update will come out on halloween)
vestal pine
If you're going for maximizing the transfer to the crafting update, just get lit...
but can it fix my power 85 autopistol
drowsy steppe
buy low sell high type shi
merry flume
guys hold
ripe quest
but can it fix my power 85 autopistol
If you shove enough plasteel into it, anything is possible.
twin wagon
If you're going for maximizing the transfer to the crafting update, just get lit...
How, we don't have a lot of details
ember yew
If you're going for maximizing the transfer to the crafting update, just get lit...
Im still trying to guess a limit to how we can adjust the 5 main stats
but the ability itself to adjust them is great
ember yew
there is, but the item already go above 380 quality in base stats
ripe quest
How, we don't have a lot of details
I am basing this on the like, full devblog talking about each system in the crafting update + whatever playtesters have confirmed (whether intentional or not)
merry flume
100% in each section, congrats you do 7% more damage
ember yew
100% in each section, congrats you do 7% more damage
if it helps reach new BPs
im in
twin wagon
I am basing this on the like, full devblog talking about each system in the craf...
I rather wait till we get more information, playtests may not make it to the final product
ripe quest
I rather wait till we get more information, playtests may not make it to the fin...
There is quite literally an entire devblog, dunno what you're on rn
merry flume
hopefully it's cool and epic™️
twin wagon
There is quite literally an entire devblog, dunno what you're on rn
Devlog doesn't touch on a lot of aspects.
It is like the athenor, but what about weapon base stats, what about costs?
merry flume
i hope melk coin becomes useful in some way that it's not just sitting in dragon's horde sized piles in peoples inventories
ripe quest
FS: new crafting system is too good, we nerfed it a bit
true, I pray that they revert the changes and go "oops, too much power to the player" and then give us 2 more years of this crafting system
twin wagon
Using 2k plasteel to increase base stats by 4% could be a reality
ember yew
Devlog doesn't touch on a lot of aspects.
It is like the athenor, but what abou...
well they could change some stuff within next 3 months, so that's why it's vague
frozen glen
true, I pray that they revert the changes and go "oops, too much power to the pl...
more ppl gonna go wahhh nerfs
game too hard
zealot is doomed
merry flume
https://tenor.com/view/cat-berg-cat-orange-cat-swimming-gif-25177582
no he's drinking all the oiter!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ivory marlin
Poor zealots
I’ve been running the exact same psyker build since before cross play on pc was a thing
ripe quest
more ppl gonna go wahhh nerfs
Out of raw curiosity I wonder if it'd be possible to gaslight enough people to cause another powersword nerf situation w/ fake datamined info
But that's an arc for a different time
ripe quest
Exhil are you spreading misinformation again?
I'd never. Totally not.
chrome snow
love spreading misinformation on the internet
ivory marlin
I'd never. Totally not.
Damn 😔
twin wagon
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/4270057097450538498
"As the players progress."
No mention of plasteel usage, no mention of how you gain progress and no mention if we'll get compensated for also having high point weps within the category, only blessings.
Weapon stat maximun is RANDOMLY DETERMINED which means we still have rng issues
The modification window shows no plasteel, just a repair symbol
ripe quest
Damn 😔
Though if I ever become a playtester I think it'd be very funny to imply stuff like "yeah look forward to Ogryn elite reworks 
" and then it's just outright wrong and never touched a playtest environment. Would probably depend on the NDA though.
drowsy steppe
@ripe quest have you seen the pellet count for the db
frozen glen
Though if I ever become a playtester I think it'd be very funny to imply stuff l...
would be in theme with fatshark's own misinformation descriptions
spare talon
so while it is a longer event
its so brain dead
esp since its a straight shot for speedruns
from start to end
ripe quest
I am noticing that if you want to gutter a large clump of enemies, just using the primary shot may be better.
drowsy steppe
So from what Im reading. RMB has more spread to it than just firing normal lmb
hot jolt
something happens to where after u hit the entity cap they can't follow u anymore but dont despawn also (so then more wouldn't come in)
ripe quest
So from what Im reading. RMB has more spread to it than just firing normal lmb
yee that too. Harsher damage falloff as well.
hot jolt
same with syco,
same with the maps that barley allow reconnecting even after a crash. i feel its all connected. more ram should b in use for sure
swift hearth
how people feeling about the bolt pistol
royal vortex
knife + double barrel ws gaming (im lubed and willing)
do not take that 2nd part out of context
swift hearth
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1244937795609432134/m...
that how i feel with my hammer
ripe quest
"As the players progress."
No mention of plasteel usage, no mention of how you g...
Everything that I brought up was directly pulled from the devblog. I still have no idea why you're engaging in this there's literally nothing here for you to argue w/. You're also continuing to display that you haven't read the devblog, please actually read it.
ripe quest
knife + double barrel ws gaming (im lubed and willing)
only 420 bleed damage, throwing
royal vortex
i cannot imagine plasteel costs will change too much
ripe quest
lack of bleedinator 2.0
swift hearth
also the moments when the bolt pistol bugs out and enemies just walks off getting hit in the face and walking it off like "hooo mukatte kuru no ka" doesn't inspire confidence
ripe quest
the bleedinator cannot be recreated
weak
royal vortex
i wasnt even doing manstopper flechette for it
i had swapped to scattershot flechette
because i was not about to lose on the bet
royal vortex
vet is fun
u can make the same stupid mistake block breaking urself trying to push attack a mauler in a horde 5 times
and just
hit f
placid fiber
@royal vortex So, Josho, what do you think of the new weapons so far?
ripe quest
I enjoy Vet but every build that I've displayed gets met with a lot of criticism from vet chat and it makes me not want to play the class
royal vortex
which is huge
royal vortex
I enjoy Vet but every build that I've displayed gets met with a *lot* of critici...
every time i check there it's a very dumb combination
i just do what i want
twin wagon
Everything that I brought up was directly pulled from the devblog. I still have ...
I've read it 3 times with now, please give it an actual read, it's literally on the 3rd paragraph, maximun potential is rng dependant
We even have a modification cap on our weapons so the hunt for a decent base remains
We have no idea what the enhance 500 is or how much enhancement it is
"When viewing any weapon, it will show the weapon’s maximum potential stats. These stats will be randomly determined. It’s up to the players to decide if the weapon profile is interesting enough for them to commit and increase the stats until reaching this potential (which are then applied to the weapon through the Expertise system)."
So we are just getting a shortening of our rng system with slight athenor improvements
royal vortex
trying to get a singular decent base is way less grind intensive than the current rng we have
hot jolt
twin wagon
trying to get a singular decent base is way less grind intensive than the curren...
I have spent 3 million ordo dockets to get a borovian pickaxe with base at 370+, defense at 61-68%.
RNG is the issue
Thank the mod to buy in bulk
royal vortex
that range is just too tight for what defences does
this is where the problem comes in
a lot of the time people complain about the rng they want very specific numbers oftentimes just based on vibes
you can accept any defences stat at 50+, borovian also gets cleave targets which doesn't have a very dramatic scaling within a band of 20% or so
ripe quest
I've read it 3 times with now, please give it an actual read, it's literally on ...
I already talked about base weapon stats being separate from the "you can fix any weapon" thing. It is quite literally an irrelevant talking point, you're arguing against a person that doesn't exist. I don't know who you are or how I hurt you but please just read shit like god damn please for fucks sake. I'm still doing the workouts per ping thing I don't need baseless fodder arguments in my inbox.
twin wagon
that range is just too tight for what defences does
If your defense is under 61% you loose a dodge, if it's iver 68% you loose a 5-9% on either damage, pen or cleave which in damage increases htk by 1 on zerkers, pen increases htk on crushers by 1 (or another special) and cleave damage reduces flak melee cleave by 1
Some weapons really need very specific stats
royal vortex
cleave targets is separate from cleave damage
i also just flat out don't believe you on the breakpoint you state when pickaxe has so many different conditional buffs on top of determining if it's for skullbreaker or a less melee invested setup
my 54% borovian shows 4 dodges using numericui
blissful tendon
wonder what causes the weird text chat thing where it leaves morningstar but doesnt join strike team
twin wagon
I already talked about base weapon stats being separate from the "you can fix an...
My entire argument is that we lack enough information to make an informed guess on the systems around the crafting, specially with how fatshark changes things.
You are free to block me if you don't like it.
twin wagon
i also just flat out don't believe you on the breakpoint you state when pickaxe ...
Shows 3 for mine at 59% We are also running without blessings since we won't get them till we grind the new system, since we also don't know how exactly unlocking will be
royal vortex
my 51% karsolas is also showing 4
twin wagon
Karsolas and Branx show 4 at 51 and 3 at 50
blissful tendon
what now
royal vortex
twin wagon
Then why does numeric ui display 3/3
twin wagon
I'll check
fleet fractal
frosty herald
twin wagon
It's outdated I'll get the new version
royal vortex
80% cleave target borovian
60%
this looks bad for say the h1 because you'd lose access to cleaving 3 maulers but even just headtaker is enough of a power boost to get you over that threshold
there are some weapons which require specific breakpoints, but when i talk to people about it, it's like headshotting bruisers on vet w/ rashad without any headtaker stacks
glacial stratus
80% cleave target borovian
Josho, why do the teammates like to blow up the cock busters when they are close to me and give me a lot of corruption?
zinc talon
royal vortex
just assuming 60% cleave targets/defences as the general number, that gives you 20 points of variance per so you can accept anything at or over 340 as within an ideal number range
zinc talon
standard issue world eater chainaxe
drowsy steppe
Sounds like they have brain damage
royal vortex
Josho, why do the teammates like to blow up the cock busters when they are close...
sometimes you're standing at a weird angle where they don't see you until it's too late
sometimes they just like shooting stuff
people also kinda gotta adjust to playing with all guns cleaving teammates
glacial stratus
@royal vortex is Borovian the best pickaxe?
royal vortex
it has the most versatility when you factor in ease of use/smooth combos
zinc talon
with the power of your imagination
royal vortex
the pickaxes don't have crazy good unyielding damage
royal vortex
the slow swing speed makes actually fighting a dh painful if it's on you
zinc talon
when you factor in general combat chaos, most of the time that crusher is going to already have some damage done to them
royal vortex
the bronx can, at least
it also suffers the hardest from "i am fat and slow and this windup time is losing me toughness"
zinc talon
and in that case all three can pretty much end what sdomeone else started
ivory marlin
Oh shit its okri and josho
zinc talon
it also suffers the hardest from "i am fat and slow and this windup time is losi...
I get nickled and dimed for toughness the entire map[
ivory marlin
Okri they added pregnancy to warframe
royal vortex
I get nickled and dimed for toughness the entire map[
the shooter changes make ogryn fuckin painful
ivory marlin
https://tenor.com/view/really-basketball-coach-oh-hell-gif-6229106
Theres a mini game involved too
zinc talon
to get....pregnant
zinc talon
you are fucking with me
versed sinew
what the fuck
ivory marlin
But not really cuz you can play as her
ivory marlin
Yerp
zinc talon
oh is that why he hates us so much
royal vortex
how can I 1HS kill a crusher?
with +cara, full heavy hitter stacks, thrust, and pull into h1 kills the crusher on a headshot
versed sinew
oh is that why he hates us so much
who, god?
royal vortex
you can interchange heavy hitter for headtaker
ivory marlin
oh is that why he hates us so much
Stalker hates the orokin for what they did to him
And his wife
royal vortex
the billhook pull adds 10% damage as a debuff for ~5s on whatever you hit
including bosses
it's also
uh
zinc talon
did they expand on going to the tau system at all
zinc talon
or are we still stuck genociding vat born mutant babies around venuis
versed sinew
im still just trying to process the sentence 'they added pregnancy to warframe'
zinc talon
just whole family things
ivory marlin
did they expand on going to the tau system at all
The entire quest is “play as stalker then help your pregnant frame wife give birth”
ivory marlin
Her name is jade
ivory marlin
You can choose the baby’s name
spare talon
oh im sorry did you not enjoy the giving birth minigame?
ivory marlin
You can see in her womb but that’s about it
zinc talon
in. her.
versed sinew
the fuck
ivory marlin
Like its see through
zinc talon
so like hentai cut-through of what's going on inside
spare talon
you do get one of the hardest moments in warframe history after though
versed sinew
im having a stroke, right?
ivory marlin
No like you can see from her stomach to the baby
spare talon
so like hentai cut-through of what's going on inside
no its just like transparent and inside it looks like just energy
zinc talon
It would have cost you zero dollars to tell me all this
versed sinew
or to not tell you this
ivory marlin
you do get one of the hardest moments in warframe history after though
This section was actually cool as fuck but i was still processing the minigame
spare talon
stalker/the father is also gianni matragrano
ivory marlin
That too
spare talon
stalker/the father is also gianni matragrano
ivory marlin
stalker/the father is also gianni matragrano
Its really funny to me being hunted by stalker as i play as jade ngl
spare talon
im still so upset
i had the opportunity to meet gianni last tennocon
but i just didnt know he was there so i didnt know to look for him
rough galleon
i forgot about the ghost of tsushima flute childbirth minigame
ivory marlin
Bro i wanna go to a tennocon so bad
spare talon
Bro i wanna go to a tennocon so bad
the trip cost me about a thousand dollars
ivory marlin
i forgot about the ghost of tsushima flute childbirth minigame
Wanna do that but in space ninja farm simulator?
ivory marlin
the trip cost me about a thousand dollars
Thats why i havent gone yet
Also i was still a child
spare talon
is it really a ninja game if im exploding enemies 5 times a second
ivory marlin
is it really a ninja game if im exploding enemies 5 times a second
Yeah cuz ash exists
placid fiber
Well... I did the new mission(was there 1 or 2?(At least one of them, anyway, if there are more than 1))... on uprising, since I wanted my last mission completion. I went and put on all 3 wound curios this time to see marty's full attack speed, with my rashad, cuz I could. :3
spare talon
that means warframe is actually guitar hero
cuz octavia exists
ivory marlin
True
zinc talon
yeah you can trace the line unbroken from guitar hero to
ivory marlin
And the swasdolin or whatever the fuck its called
ivory marlin
The guitar
rough galleon
https://tenor.com/view/the-what-what-did-you-say-what-was-that-what-huh-gif-1705...
the little minigame during the jade quest is like the flute minigame in tsushima
spare talon
the shawzin
ivory marlin
I don’t remember what its called
spare talon
youre thinking of the shawzin
ivory marlin
Probably
spare talon
and mixing it up with the cetus greeting of swaz do lah
zinc talon
can't we get back to the days where I wa s young and full of hope
and trading fish to dirt poor people for better vibroblades or whatever
placid fiber
Well... I did the new mission(was there 1 or 2?(At least one of them, anyway, if...
I was vastly too powerful, tho, since it was still only uprising lol
ivory marlin
can't we get back to the days where I wa s young and full of hope
If i could go back in time i would have never gotten into warframe
ivory marlin
and mixing it up with the cetus greeting of swaz do lah
That makes sense
zinc talon
rough galleon
if i could go back in time i would make sure you got into warframe in order to maximise suffering
ivory marlin
Hey thats her
spare talon
can't we get back to the days where I wa s young and full of hope
can we go back to the days when my nuts didnt itch
ivory marlin
if i could go back in time i would make sure you got into warframe in order to m...
Youd have to go back to late 2018
zinc talon
usually that's because they need to be stretched, not scratched
cunning knoll
last 2 penances before i max zealot
zinc talon
the brazilian tiny ligaments that draw the skin up need an occasional stretch
I knew this question would come up
ivory marlin
can we go back to the days when my nuts didnt itch
Have you used jade yet? Idk how i feel about her yet so havent used her
ivory marlin
Yep
zinc talon
does stalker still attack when you're using his wife
ivory marlin
His pregnant wife
ivory marlin
does stalker still attack when you're using his wife
Yes
zinc talon
that would indicate some matrimonial acrimony
rough galleon
she's fun
versed sinew
is a ho
ivory marlin
she's fun
She looks interesting but like idk if its safe for a pregnant woman to be doing the things warframes do
rough galleon
the not quite archwing movement in her 4 doesn't feel bad which is a glowing review
great damage, support for people, and there's choir background with her abilities
zinc talon
yep, got pregnant gave birth all used up somethingsomethingincel
rough galleon
She looks interesting but like idk if its safe for a pregnant woman to be doing ...
her fucking forward dodge almost looks like a stumble and it makes me vaguely uncomfortable
her skirts kinda cover that it's more of a deliberate movement
ivory marlin
https://tenor.com/view/little-big-planet-suprised-bruh-what-littlebigplanet-gif-18119100423231820417
versed sinew
if it was like a cutscene and was meant for story progression sure, but like
you're telling me this, and I cant figure out why that needed to be in the game
ivory marlin
Pregnant warframes are cannon guys
ivory marlin
Wts [fetus prime] pmo
versed sinew
i dont like being in the room for my own dev meetings
zinc talon
'vulva and vagina dialation minigame'
ivory marlin
💀
versed sinew
'guys trust me on this, its gonna be a smash hit'
ivory marlin
Must have been a great time
versed sinew
'secondly, please fuck my wife'
ivory marlin
Rebecca was probably on board ngl
rough galleon
kinda wish they'd let us toggle the orb in her belly, to visually show she isn't actually pregnant anymore
cause the kid's out, and she died, and then we put her back together but also kind of made a copy, and the kid's not there, but the visual representation of the baby is
versed sinew
i dont like what my eyes are seeing
rough galleon
they modelled an entire fishtank womb, i'm gonna look at an entire fishtank womb
versed sinew
but i cant look away
versed sinew
ivory marlin
Stalker is kinda like umbra now that i think about it
He was one of the firsts
Broke his mind and shit
rough galleon
but kept autonomy and memory
ivory marlin
Only instead of letting us use transference on him he followed hunhow out of hatred for the orokin
Or smth like that
Its like hella interesting if you move past his pregnant wife
ivory marlin
but kept autonomy and memory
Umbra still has his autonomy and memory
If you switch to operator he regains control
He just lets us use transference
rough galleon
yeah
and you said stalker was like umbra
ivory marlin
Im tired
rough galleon
that's something they have in common
rough galleon
yeah the "but" made it sound a bit like that i get you
ivory marlin
Pregnant warframe discussion in zealot chat
versed sinew
drowsy steppe
zinc talon
^such a great movie
YOURE UGLY WHEN YOU LIEEEEEEEEE
...'I'm not lying?'
THEN WHY
ARE YOU STILL UGLYYYYYYYYYY
gets me every time
drowsy steppe
keen heath
run n gun but the bolt pistol slows you down on follow up shots
polar nexus
Run n gun on db is a bit....
drowsy steppe
I need manstopper and scattershot on my db
grizzled aspen
last 2 penances before i max zealot
Flesh wound is easy if you do karnak twins boss skip.
ornate bone
Brothers
Uncle Dane the engi main has made a video on heavy
And I think I will dust off my level 13 Pootis
solar gorge
once you know how to rev jump around corners you have reached heavy's skill ceiling
sterile stone
So much fanart is now cannon
placid fiber
Wow, the upgrades you get for your moon ability in Hades 2 are definitely worth it. I got the one that, as a base, makes me invulnerable for 5s and gives me special attacks... then I've boosted it with +1s duration, when it's on cd act as if I am spending 2 mana/sec, +20% damage during it, and +10% damage to guardians. 😮
Oh, fuck yeah! I get more points for upgrading it in this room! >:3
haughty nacelle
got a feeling theres a better option than carapace for the new shotgun any suggestions ?
ember yew
got a feeling theres a better option than carapace for the new shotgun any sugge...
Check unyelding for bulwark oneshots (dont forget anoint in blood talent)
haughty nacelle
already got anoint in blood but i'll see if unyielding is any better
placid fiber
Oops I misread that
placid fiber
got a feeling theres a better option than carapace for the new shotgun any sugge...
My guess would be maniac, unyielding, or unarmored for the 2nd perk(besides Flak)
sharp minnow
should I wait until new crafting update to make some good stuff? ive played on and off since launch, but never bothered with crafting before
coarse birch
up to you but itll be till after summer so youll be limiting yourself a bit by not crafting assuming you dont have a ton of stuff already
trail grove
Which Blessing should I get first?
I know that both aren't that great on this shotgun.
marsh hill
Which Blessing should I get first?
with this range u are better off using melee
trail grove
I mean Blessings.
marsh hill
terrifying barrage makes u loved by teammates ngl (me)
trail grove
Most of my DB Shotguns already have this.
marsh hill
full bore is good for shotguns cuz it counts for first shot too
(at least that's what i read)
vocal pulsar
terrifying barrage makes u loved by teammates ngl (me)
if i see a teamate with terrifying barrage willingly slotted in, i do the opposite of loving them
trail grove
Fullbore makes it a bit better against large targets, I think.
marsh hill
if i see a teamate with terrifying barrage willingly slotted in, i do the opposi...
u don't like suppressed poxwalkers?
marsh hill
Fullbore makes it a bit better against large targets, I think.
mutants will not know what hit em
trail grove
mutants will not know what hit em
Half the time, they do.
tight fog
cor lads this patch deffo plays differently. just ate shit biig time oops
trail grove
I think half the time they charge at me for the sweet relief of
THE EMPEROR'S MERCY
aka death.
marsh hill
cor lads this patch deffo plays differently. just ate shit biig time oops
i be gettin destroyed by dreg ragers that i now pray for crushers
they have no business knocking me down so quick i used to play dodgeball knifing with those mfs
surreal shore
hey guys
i got question
you know that
thing
that gives 25% chance
to electrute staggered enemy
is that a deadblessing?
fleet zealot
is that a deadblessing?
yea compared to the other ones
you want skullcrusher+ high voltage or entropic
surreal shore
you want skullcrusher+ high voltage or entropic
not hammer blow?
fleet zealot
on shockmaul? no
lol
crusher maul only goes hammerblow because it has no blessing outside of skullcrusher that increases damage/dps
shock maul has damage/power to choose from
marsh hill
flesh tearer and lacerate on a knife allows me to just 3 slap every enemy on my way to obj and they die
this is fun
vestal pine
if i see a teamate with terrifying barrage willingly slotted in, i do the opposi...
how else would you deal with shooters rampant nowdays anyway kekw
south folio
cuz TB only affects a range around you and the weapons that can get TB also tend to have good suppression
or continue running crit builds for toughness maxxing
gleaming hawk
how else would you deal with shooters rampant nowdays anyway kekw
Use a knife, and if that don't work, use a dodge and a knife
vestal pine
Use a knife, and if that don't work, use a dodge and a knife
both doesnt work
vestal pine
or continue running crit builds for toughness maxxing
eh
marsh hill
both doesnt work
dw that's when u use "i'm down" and have your allies carry
which is what they prolly use
vestal pine
true
gleaming hawk
both doesnt work
works for me tho
south folio
eh
whatchu mean eh
crit builds got +50% toughness dr to work with
that didn't get nerfed
gleaming hawk
I mean slide works great too, only thing that doesn't work is directly sliding at gunners now, but you need to just side-eye them for a bit
marsh hill
i wish the game had a built in scoreboard and skill based matchmaking i'm tired of killing 40 disablers while some teammates be gettin 1-2 specialist kills whole game
south folio
on the other hand, you're in the perfect place to do that matchmaking
gleaming hawk
i wish the game had a built in scoreboard and skill based matchmaking i'm tired ...
Yucky
vestal pine
that didn't get nerfed
with the buffed shooter damage even vet dies in a sitting
so i just give up using that and take other talents
south folio
with the buffed shooter damage even vet dies in a sitting
...
why did you take off +50% toughness dr
wow
vocal pulsar
how else would you deal with shooters rampant nowdays anyway kekw
engage them in melee
marsh hill
on the other hand, you're in the perfect place to do that matchmaking
nah bro some guy on here was running cadia sword chorus marty and wanted to do the "just a flesh wound" penance like bro how are u gonna
south folio
i wonder why you're getting stripped now
gleaming hawk
The shooter buff was a bit... overzealous but you can work through it
vestal pine
i wonder why you're getting stripped now
didnt notice me taking it off
nothing changed
south folio
i have zero trust in your ability to evaluate builds well
it is on the face +50% toughness dr
and nothing about that changes
vestal pine
you get stripped either way, so i'd rather spend that point in possibly useful talent slots
south folio
sigh
this is genuinely so stupid
whatever this is a conscious decision of your own choice
gleaming hawk
How quickly you get stripped matters too, y'know, lol
south folio
the fact that you have consciously decided to take off +50% toughness dr is something you are willing to admit at least
vestal pine
i have zero trust in your ability to evaluate builds well
if i actually noticed me taking less damage with it, i would have sticked to using it
marsh hill
ngl having 3 +3 stam curios and stripped down IV on a rifle makes it so funny to run around while getting shot
south folio
are you noticing in-game or do you record footage and have a clearer view of your gameplay
or are you just a vibes gamer
vestal pine
are you noticing in-game or do you record footage and have a clearer view of you...
in game really
gleaming hawk
I use all stam curios and deal with shooters, you can definitely do it with toughness curios
vestal pine
I use all stam curios and deal with shooters, you can definitely do it with toug...
just not using tdr and just dodging seems to be the play now
whatever numbers you have you get stripped either way it seems
gleaming hawk
I mean, yes, not taking damage is always the way over taking damage
vestal pine
better off taking another survivalist node
gleaming hawk
but the toughness helps with imperfect dodging
or multiple shooters from different angles
vestal pine
it doesnt, is what im saying
gleaming hawk
Don't take the full volley to the face?
vestal pine
or dont take any at all
gleaming hawk
Like, the point is it helps cover you getting some spray, the full spray will delete you
south folio
he just seems to be biased against crit builds now for some reason
i don't think you'll ever convince him
he's been permanently malding for 2 days counting
over the crit cdr nerf
gleaming hawk
or dont take any at all
The point is you can't always do that
vestal pine
he's been permanently malding for 2 days counting
again, if you wanna count, do it in weeks
south folio
i'm talking specifically about the crit cdr nerf
because you didn't act like this before
vestal pine
yes
south folio
and it's only when the recent patch drop that you suddenly became the most negative nancy ever
gleaming hawk
over the crit cdr nerf
lol, the super specific nerf I haven't even noticed? Aight.
Shooters are definitely problematically strong imo after the update, but you can deal with them still.
gleaming hawk
which is by not getting hit
Good luck with that strat on auric
south folio
dodging and taking talents are mutually exclusive actions fyi
vestal pine
and it's only when the recent patch drop that you suddenly became the most negat...
oh im always like this, especially towards fatshark who delays patchs for months
vestal pine
Good luck with that strat on auric
i run the build on auric
south folio
nah, you are definitely more negative
gleaming hawk
i run the build on auric
Cool, show me a vid where you don't get hit the entire run
vestal pine
nah, you are definitely more negative
always was, just never showed a shit over here
south folio
at least, the majority of your messages are much more negative
south folio
always was, just never showed a shit over here
yeah, and i'm judging based on the symptoms
methinks that the symptoms and the source are correlated
vestal pine
Cool, show me a vid where you don't get hit the entire run
i dont expect to not get hit all the way since getting hit gives the same result for both parties
which is why i took it off
frozen glen
argggghhhhh they nerfed my crit build
gleaming hawk
i dont expect to not get hit all the way since getting hit gives the same result...
I can't parse this statement
north sedge
just run kraks
vestal pine
mbad worded it wrong
gleaming hawk
just run kraks
Zealot with kraks would be interesting
but kinda bad with no free grenades perk
north sedge
oh im just making fun of lacerate knife
royal vortex
it was when he got the sneverus snip
gleaming hawk
Does it come with a functioning dour attitude and sour stare?
north sedge
💅
north sedge
when did you become a woman dough
stan works in not mysterious ways
high pulsar
and it's only when the recent patch drop that you suddenly became the most negat...
Do you get paid to defend every design decision, or do you do it for free
It’s completely valid for people to be upset at the erasure of playstyles that were present since the game launched
gleaming hawk
What playstyle has been erased though?
high pulsar
Chastise providing rending on ranged defined the meta for a while and enabled tons of builds and weapon combinations.
I never was a fan of the crit build, but for many it was the one build that set zealot apart for them
They’ve now made a ton of weapon combinations that were viable now non-viable
high pulsar
The issue I have is the removal of the ranged rend
Infinite chastise was a meme and wasn’t even good
drowsy steppe
we are getting 100% rending on melee though
sure there might be no more magdumping crushers with brautos
but its not like
ranged chastise spam zealot is something you build around
high pulsar
My issue is that the design space around weapon balance on the zealot since game launch has been with chastise being what it was. And changing chastise throws that completely out
north sedge
🤔
gleaming hawk
The main thing Zealot lost was killing crushers at range, but Zealot never was good at that and none of his guns are anti-armor except the boltor (lol)
high pulsar
I don’t know why anyone would even take chastise anymore compared to the other two
north sedge
Lol
high pulsar
If your goal is to maximize utility and impact
gleaming hawk
I mean, because it's Chastise and you can be a frenzy zealot as the Emperor intended?
north sedge
Revolver, vraks 3/7, bolter, bolt pistol for ranged antiarmor
Well cara specifically
And uh, chastise still does a lot of things!
gleaming hawk
Revolver, vraks 3/7, bolter, bolt pistol for ranged antiarmor
I mean, the revolver is anti-yes, and the Vraks does work, but I don't think they're that good against crushers and as a zealot you are probably better off using melee, imo
north sedge
Oh i use melee, didn't really do ranged chastise outside of niche stuff with flamer once in a great while
gleaming hawk
If your goal is to maximize utility and impact
There's always a meta build, and it didn't change from before to after the update.
vestal pine
i like how vraks 3 always gets mentioned
drowsy steppe
its still 100% rending, extra damage and attack speed. And as a survivability tool with the toughness replenishment
north sedge
And a movement tool
gleaming hawk
I honestly couldn't think of a zealot using Chastise for ranged rend
before the update, and I'm sure it was used but I feel like most people play Zealot to be like an attack dog and not shooty mcshooty son
high pulsar
its still 100% rending, extra damage and attack speed. And as a survivability to...
Is the 100% melee rending for a single hit, or for the full duration?
north sedge
1 hit and it's a buff from what it used to be
south folio
Do you get paid to defend every design decision, or do you do it for free
i just think that people are whining about a nerf to a very stacked build for no reason
drowsy steppe
single hit
south folio
heaven forbid that fatshark nerf stuff that's stupidly strong
drop a difficulty level if you need it
that's literally what difficuly levels are for
and limiting players is not an inherently bad thing
high pulsar
I honestly couldn't think of a zealot using Chastise for ranged rend
I could be in the minority here, but I considered the ranged rend one of the defining features of the class. You could take guns accessible to the veteran, and use them to better effect in certain circumstances.
To be fair, that exact reason I liked it is an overstep on the design space of the zealot. But I feel it also emphasized how poorly a lot of zealot weapons at the time handled certain enemy types
gleaming hawk
heaven forbid that fatshark nerf stuff that's stupidly strong
Let's be real, they nerfed the wrong thing if they were going for 'stupidly strong' lol
south folio
Let's be real, they nerfed the wrong thing if they were going for 'stupidly stro...
it's one of the things
frozen glen
and limiting players is not an inherently bad thing
SAY THE LINE ARCO
south folio
and something that needed to be killed
drowsy steppe
also damn this chastise heavy attack bug
south folio
SAY THE LINE ARCO
i have to repeat it because people constantly use the "fatshark is killing builds" argument
tfw higher difficulties restrict builds
high pulsar
What’s the heavy attack bug
gleaming hawk
I could be in the minority here, but I considered the ranged rend one of the def...
I don't agree. Zealot seems to be the speedy melee class and I think that's their intended design space. They have meh ranged weapons on purpose.
drowsy steppe
ok if you chastise as you're about to swing a heavy
south folio
the amount of non-statements that people use to sound as if fatshark is doing a bad thing but really it's a natural consequence of the game being hard
drowsy steppe
somehow the input registers it as a light attack
high pulsar
I honestly have no issue with the cdr nerf. It was a build with a low skill floor
south folio
and my other problem is that people come up with a bunch of excuses
people should just be honest
and say that they don't like crit cdr getting nerfed
people yap too much and come up with convoluted things to say
high pulsar
somehow the input registers it as a light attack
This is big bummer if true.. have you tried putting the game in priority mode through task manager? That helps with a lot of the input issues I’ve seen
gleaming hawk
the amount of non-statements that people use to sound as if fatshark is doing a ...
But the game being hard isn't necessarily a good thing either. It has to be interestingly hard and actually engage the player.
south folio
But the game being hard isn't necessarily a good thing either. It has to be inte...
difficulty levels
i already made my point there
frozen glen
i dont like how fatshark has nerfed the 2 other nodes and straight up still ignoring busted as fuck marty build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
south folio
i hope i don't have to keep on repeating the same stuff in the same conversation
what american education does to a mf, assuming you're american
gleaming hawk
difficulty levels
Nothing has changed about my point. Even differing difficulty levels should only increase difficulty where it is engaging and interesting.
high pulsar
I can agree that nerfing the crit cdr is a good choice. And also sympathize with the people who liked that build that now no longer exists.
Similar with ranged Rend.. For me, zealot is on backburner until something changes that grabs my attention
south folio
there is a very easy retort to my difficulty level statement
a very simple and uncontroversial retort
south folio
the retort that you should have said is, "what about materials"
south folio
Nothing has changed about my point. Even differing difficulty levels should only...
and players have the choice of difficulty levels
high pulsar
Nothing has changed about my point. Even differing difficulty levels should only...
Would be awesome if enemy density was a separate modifier from damage and health.
Like auric maelstrom density but with heresy or even malice lol
gleaming hawk
and players have the choice of difficulty levels
And? That doesn't affect my point.
south folio
how so?
frosty herald
Arco eats bread soup
south folio
my point is that players can stick to lower difficulties for more builds to be "viable"
and if the game is too hard
they can stick to lower difficulties to stay engage instead of engaging in bdsm
that is specifically what multiple difficulty levels are for
gleaming hawk
Difficulty should be increased where interesting and engaging. Choice does not change that idea. Just because you can choose to make the game less fun doesn't mean the game should be less fun.
high pulsar
my point is that players can stick to lower difficulties for more builds to be "...
That’s how a lot of people handle it in VT2.
Playing on legend with twitch mode and a deed
drowsy steppe
regular damnation is an alright sweet spot for that
south folio
it is definitionally what they are for
drowsy steppe
hard but not too hard type of difficulty
south folio
Difficulty should be increased where interesting and engaging. Choice does not c...
sure, but that's a tangential point to the fact that people are complaining about things getting nerfed and build variety being restricted
high pulsar
It’s annoying when certain weapons can not hit satisfying breakpoints on damnation, missing by just a few damage
south folio
Difficulty should be increased where interesting and engaging. Choice does not c...
i agree with this statement, but I don't see how this pertains to the conversation at hand
drowsy steppe
ok first of all how good is the weapon
theres talents and perks, blessings that supports pushing breakpoints
high pulsar
Crit cdr was inversely powerful to the difficulty of the mission.. So I’m confused why difficulty is being brought up at all…
drowsy steppe
as terrible the current crafting system is currently, the game is giving you the tools to do it...
south folio
Crit cdr was inversely powerful to the difficulty of the mission.. So I’m confus...
because players can drop down in difficulty for more builds to be more viable
gleaming hawk
i agree with this statement, but I don't see how this pertains to the conversati...
I mean, my original point was that Fatshark definitely does do dumb/unengaging difficulty increases at times. Not every difficulty increase should be responded to with 'git gud' necessarily.
south folio
my point to your statement that fatshark is killing builds is the fact that
- crit cdr is stupid
- lower difficulties exist for more builds to be viable
vestal pine
because players can drop down in difficulty for more builds to be more viable
ah yes, one down difficulty argument
high pulsar
I mean, my original point was that Fatshark definitely does do dumb/unengaging d...
Can you provide examples
gleaming hawk
But that's a general thing and not specific to the current situation
south folio
I mean, my original point was that Fatshark definitely does do dumb/unengaging d...
but i'm not telling them to git gud
i'm telling them to drop a difficulty if necessary
if it's too hard
then it's too hard
and it's simple as that
gleaming hawk
i'm telling them to drop a difficulty if necessary
I'm putting that into a similar category of advice
south folio
but how?
i'm not calling them bad
because a player's performance is decided by their skill and their build
and the build part is what i'm focusing on in this conversation
vestal pine
its not even hard in a meaningful way, its just how can the AI director fuck you over for half the difficulty spikes in this game
gleaming hawk
Git gud and drop difficulty both potentially ignore a difficulty increase being anti-fun
south folio
that the game has stupid difficulty
and has spikes
but that is not even related to the fact that people are whining about crit cdr and whatnot getting nerfed
frozen glen
please remove trapper infinite cleave
vestal pine
HIHG
south folio
Git gud and drop difficulty both potentially ignore a difficulty increase being ...
yeah, but that's an entirely different conversation
south folio
if this was a conversation about better balancing difficulty, i would absolutely agree with you
and be on your side
vestal pine
if you dont get hit, its the same
if you get hit once and move on, its the same
south folio
but this isn't
vestal pine
this is
south folio
so why does it keep getting brought up
vestal pine
because fatshark cant get away with stupid patches
gleaming hawk
but that is not even related to the fact that people are whining about crit cdr ...
I mean in general perhaps but I haven't been on here religiously so I don't have that entire context you're talking about, I keep hearing people complaining about complainers of CDR change but I don't think anyone actually complained about it other than lacerate knife
south folio
I mean in general perhaps but I haven't been on here religiously so I don't have...
oh you are so wrong
drowsy steppe
there are
south folio
the amount of people that have popped in to just complain about the crit cdr nerf
gleaming hawk
Who else complained about it in this convo?
vestal pine
there are lots, dont worry about that
south folio
in this convo?
frozen glen
crit cdr nerf and fotf rending nerf
south folio
lacerate and vitamin to my knowledge
vestal pine
i just wont shut up about it for weeks
gleaming hawk
lacerate and vitamin to my knowledge
vit waffled on it afaik
south folio
that is the larger conversation that i'm responding to
drowsy steppe
I wish contra was here so I can witness some mental breakdown
south folio
I wish contra was here so I can witness some mental breakdown
if only he didn't go over and get banned
so tragic
drowsy steppe
😔
frozen glen
so sad that arco got banned too
gleaming hawk
that is the larger conversation that i'm responding to
Right, but my point is I'm not responding to that larger convo, I don't have that context
frozen glen
i miss darcy
south folio
alright then why are you stepping in
and then getting confused when you don't have the context that i and lacerate have
like come on
frosty herald
Id just nerf it to being % based and ranged rending to 25%
south folio
just shut up and figure out the context instead of jumping in randomly and then complaining that you don't have the context
mf
gleaming hawk
alright then why are you stepping in
Because I didn't know you were talking about something so specific, you seemed to be more general from my viewpoint. My mistake.
south folio
do you barge into stranger's conversation and complain that you don't know what they're talking about
vestal pine
game being stupid in difficulty, nerfing the OP thing on one end is fine on its own but not with followup fixes to the general fuckedupness of the AI director not following up is not the way to go
gleaming hawk
just shut up and figure out the context instead of jumping in randomly and then ...
Bro I was literally talking before you, you're the one that brought that context in
drowsy steppe
like
drowsy steppe
vet just needs Iron Will
south folio
you are the one who made the entry point
south folio
i'm here talkin about people whining about the crit cdr nerf
frozen glen
they need iw and shout to be immortal
south folio
and then you jump in starting to talk about difficulty balancing
like
don't accuse me of something that YOU have done
south folio
hes passive agressive dont worry
what do you mean passive?
i'm just aggressive
i'm not hiding my aggression at all
i very plainly dislike you and deadvoid
frozen glen
arco got that goose in him bro...........
vestal pine
This isn’t even hard atm
yeah it isnt hard, its annoying
drowsy steppe
I think they buffed the horde duration
frozen glen
na bro they buffed da horde speed
vestal pine
two fundamentally different things that can be born from a patch's way
crisp furnace
They buffed Gunners and broke horde spawns
frozen glen
the groaner hordes atleast
drowsy steppe
is it
south folio
and on the topic of balancing difficulty better, this is why i'm an advocate of player nerfs + reducing elite/special count
drowsy steppe
I do notice it on poxwalkers too
frozen glen
ya bro they buffed the groaner speed only
frosty herald
You dont need ranged rending when using the double barrel
vestal pine
and on the topic of balancing difficulty better, this is why i'm an advocate of ...
oh i dont know
why did the latter didnt happen
frozen glen
cuz they wanted to differentiate them from poxwalkers or smth
vestal pine
or why did vet and psyker stay the same
south folio
why did the latter didnt happen
that just how fatshark patches be
vestal pine
or get buffs
gleaming hawk
you are the one who made the entry point
Prior to your engagement, we were talking about the ranged rend change, not the CDR change.
south folio
they got their respective nerfs in different and previous patches
crisp furnace
Horde spawn timers only go down if you progress through the map
vestal pine
fatshark patches be does not advocate that the nerf to zealot alone is worthy to be in the game
if they wanna patch the game to not induce powercreep, im great with it
crisp furnace
Because they broke it
vestal pine
if they wanna patch the game in patches
and implement the nerfs first
that im not good with
if they wanna do shit
they do it together
i am and will always be mad about the CDR nerf because of this
crisp furnace
Cope and seethe I suppose