#zealot-class

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proper gyro
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Is there any thrusting weapons in this game?

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Like the heavy attack is a thrust?

south folio
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there's ds4 on psyker

surreal shore
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Yeah but do I need hammer blow ?

proper gyro
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Oh yeah forgot about that

south folio
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and ds2 but that does less damage than ds4 for some reason

north sedge
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Well thunderstrike is doodoo

south folio
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hammerblow/trauma is very good to stagger tougher enemies with normal attacks

surreal shore
south folio
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so that you can abuse the shit out of skullcrusher

north sedge
proper gyro
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I want the sword and dagger from VT

south folio
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skullcrusher is legitimately stupid (on crusher)

surreal shore
proper gyro
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And something similar to the longbow

north sedge
surreal shore
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Wait why did that autocorrect like that my bad

south folio
surreal shore
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I see okay

south folio
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the thing is that activating your special is also not optimal DPS if you don't need it for the stagger

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(besides making use of it infinite cleave)

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so being able to just stagger with normals is VERY nice to have

vestal pine
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im still quite bummed zealot only real anti-carapace options that has it from the getgo are non-class specific weapons
psyker has staves, vet has plasma, ogryn doesnt habe much but his shovels usually last better than hammers

surreal shore
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Dude

south folio
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zealot still gets to make the best use of the knife

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the fact that the combat blade build is specific to zealot is good enough no?

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and like, crusher and evis are fine into it

surreal shore
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You can use combat blade on psyker too if you crazy enough xD

south folio
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i can't speak about the evis cuz i don't use it, but the crusher vid above is a 6 second kill w/o SA, hammerblow, or keystone buffs

vestal pine
surreal shore
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The second mark

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Mark 12 eviserator

misty nova
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15

surreal shore
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Will one shot any crusher with a crit you get from shred

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Blessing

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Just have to do a rev heavy to the head

vestal pine
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needs carapace from my last testing but you could run something else than piety and skip that probably

south folio
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and being able to annihilate crushers is not a baseline that we should strive for

proper gyro
proper gyro
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If it doesn't I'll be amazed

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Yeah you mentioned ogryn

vestal pine
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and ogryn already gets a thing called a folding shovel

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oneshots lile 4 crushers cause brutal momentum likes to be broken

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so idk how it'll play out tbh

vestal pine
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i hope its good

proper gyro
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You just said that ogryn doesn't have much for armor pierce

surreal shore
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Just try different weapons

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See which one you like

proper gyro
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I'm just saying there should be more soon

surreal shore
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Yeah like shock mauls

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I'm expecting them to have same finnese as crusher honestly

vestal pine
# surreal shore See which one you like

used crusher, mk15 evi, mk4 chsword, mk4/7 dclaw, both knives, rashad, mk12 chaxe, tacaxe 4/7, ironhelm and others
with 10 builds i juggle around i want to have some diversity to play with instead of equipping bolter for every melee i run

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ig what you mean but still feels like zealot really usually gets shafted

proper gyro
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I guess just have faith in FS and hope they add some cool shit

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I'm sure they will eventually

vestal pine
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they'll add something in 40000 years so yea

proper gyro
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I mean VT fucking rocks it just took a little while for it to get there

surreal shore
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Guys

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Btw

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Do I have to run

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Bm on

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H sword now ?

proper gyro
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I would

vestal pine
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ogryn def lacks a anti-carapace weapon other than shovels, but hes currently lacking in weapon variety

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BM is good

proper gyro
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The pickaxe should be awesome hopefully

surreal shore
proper gyro
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Unfortunate

vestal pine
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ignores cleave damage loss for the first 3 enemy it hits after you kill one with a wp kill

surreal shore
south folio
surreal shore
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you know how long it took me to get this!!!!

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or this!

south folio
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what's the difference between taking the bolter or an anti-carapace melee on zealot in terms of limiting build diversity?

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is it because it's a gun and not a melee?

surreal shore
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or this???

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@south folio seriously is bm that important on Hsword n ow?

south folio
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it's BM so i'd run it

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hsword doesn't need it as much as axes, but it is still BM

surreal shore
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@south folio i think i need a new crusher too then XD

vestal pine
# south folio is it because it's a gun and not a melee?

cause you have nothign to deal with one if you're alone
i run a braced-dclaw build that gets to do nothing on crusher waves other than parry them for 2 minuites straight
ig this might be just my problem, but i wish to see more ways of dealing with carapace on zealot and not relying on something overtuned called fotf

south folio
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yeah though that's dclaw life

vestal pine
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fotf is stupid

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its good and its stupid

proper gyro
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That's what I'd do

vestal pine
proper gyro
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I use fotf for literally everything

vestal pine
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its boring

proper gyro
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I love it personally

south folio
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there's knife if you want carapace destruction

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these melee weapons have fine crusher kill times w/o fotf

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taxe gets by with lightspam, crit, and duellist

proper gyro
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Charging at enemies and doing a side sweep heavy to lob off the heads of 4 ragers rocks

south folio
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and ranged weapons being able to destroy crushers should be the exception

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not the norm

proper gyro
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@surreal shore post your Hsword build

south folio
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things like trauma and voidstrike absolutely deserve to be shafted, not that other things deserve to be buffed to their level

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same goes for plasma

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and so on

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they are NOT the baselines that any weapon should ever strive for

north sedge
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No buffs only nerfs

south folio
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psword is also another topic of its own

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and deserves to have its kneecaps shot out even more

vestal pine
vestal pine
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im fine with bolter not opening bulwarks in 1 shot if it had more ammo but it doesnt so ill probably complain about it later on

north sedge
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Everything should be one tap and also the game should auto walk me to every enemy/location

vestal pine
south folio
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it's truly impressive that your first instincts are to cherrypick the literal worst weapons for the situation

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dclaw and now it's the lasguns this time

vestal pine
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ill shut up then sorry :(

south folio
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your perception is just absolutely warped by the absolutely peak anti-carapace weapons

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my point has been that weapons like the ds4 and psword are NOT baselines to strive for and you just keep stepping past this point completely

ornate bone
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whats the differences between heavy swords i cant find anything on yt

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like moveset obv

ornate bone
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but what changes

surreal shore
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oh mk6 and 7 are

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each others reverse

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mk 9 is completley different

south folio
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if we count from when i begin activaitng the special and when the killing blow lands

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it's ~3.5 seconds ttk to kill a crusher

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which is pretty damn good by any metric

vestal pine
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vraks 3 can kill crushers reasonably quickly with perfect aim

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and then agrapina shotgun takes about 5 shots to kill crusher so thats nice

south folio
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and the crusher is one of the weapons that can set up these situations

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you don't have to play perfectly when crusher is one of the weapons that can reliably stagger crushers

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just because it's not degenerate like trauma or smite doesn't mean that you should discount it

vestal pine
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vraks 3 should take aboug 5 seconds of full auto onto the head to kill it

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ig what you mean by it doesnt have to be best

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but my heart aint getting it it seems

south folio
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for reference, 3 heavies with a ds4 takes ~2.4 seconds

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though of course ds4 requires no setup besides trivially acquired buffs

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but once again

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not something to strive for

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and once again, i have to reiterate that if crushers continue to be killed this easily, they have to be spammed in numbers to be a threat

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which is why the busto weapons are not the baselines to strive for

vestal pine
south folio
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...

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the point is that

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if we want the spawns to be nerfed

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we have to bring the anti-crusher DPS down

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mf

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do i have to hammer this in three times

heady rapids
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power creeping as long as they dont touch the hp is fun

south folio
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once once again, this is the reason why weapons like the psword and ds4 are not the baselines that we should strive for

heady rapids
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esp with the weapons we have

south folio
heady rapids
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payday balancing my beloved

south folio
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and a weapon like trauma absolutely deserves to be kneecapped and is similarly not a baseline to strive for

vestal pine
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how would you even nerf trauma without taking away irs absurd stagger anywau

stable cypress
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Elite crusher as a thing could actually be pretty cool

south folio
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if i were limited to only changing one aspect, then i'd just nerf the radius

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people should have to actually aim the trauma

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it has too much damage + stagger, on account of it dishing it out in a wide circle, and this happens to be a game where enemies clump up (and guess what shape things that clump up tend to form)

heady rapids
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a konga line

south folio
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so true

stable cypress
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Yeah I think radius nerf is the way to go

south folio
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and if we want to keep some strength, hold back a bit on the radius nerf and then increase the peril gen

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back to the good ol' days of 47% peril trauma

vestal pine
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zealots still have no real away of dealing with carapace in their ranged slot

heady rapids
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we need to make all new maps just fully consist of stairs instead

south folio
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i mean if we just completely ignore the elephant in the room that is FotF

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but at this point

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you have to be actively avoiding anti-carapace builds for zealot

vestal pine
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fotf is busted yea

heady rapids
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revolver can consistently two tap the m

south folio
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you have to be

  1. not taking FotF
  2. not taking any of the 6 melee weapons that are good into carapace
heady rapids
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yeah i mean sometimes you wanna get the heavy sword

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have some fun

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is bolter good on zealot? i know vet can like 2-3 tap them with bolter

vestal pine
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bolter is better on zealot

ornate bone
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doesnt zarona 2 tap crushers in head with a crit and the right buffs

south folio
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i only run fotf w/ bolter so i can't say about it in general

ornate bone
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doesnt get much better than that

heady rapids
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only the talent that gives you damage

opal sparrow
heady rapids
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up to 25% with range

vestal pine
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i use it in like 1 build and dont use it cause i dont wanna see same shit on every build i have

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same goes for zarona

ornate bone
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omg hiiiiii zealot monogamer

vestal pine
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and then theres like agrapina shotgun

heady rapids
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i use zarona on literally every build i think

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if ucking love it

south folio
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sure, but if you're going to argue on the basis of build limitations

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then i can pull out the psyker card

heady rapids
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yeah at this point you're actively trying to make a build that excels at sucking in killing crushers

vestal pine
south folio
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i can also pull out the vet card
because guess how many total weapons they have that are good into carapace
because guess what, this isn't a zealot-only problem by your defintion

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WE DON'T GET WEAPON VARIETY EITHER

heady rapids
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vet has a rending talent ig

south folio
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THERE IS NO VARIETY

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MF

vestal pine
faint cape
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Zealot has an I win button vs armor who is whining

vestal pine
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from the very start

south folio
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though they're also just helped by crit ADMs

stable cypress
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Vet doesn't even run the rending talents much lol

heady rapids
vestal pine
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i dont really care about rending talents now... they are good but onslaught just takes too much ammo and too much skillpointd for me

left iron
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A wild fatass

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In its natural habitat

heady rapids
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completely forgot that we're getting a bolt pistol

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also

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might be usable

vestal pine
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wodner if zealot has those

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i know having shit variety in this game isnt a high hurdle

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but i hate one regardless, sorry about that

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ogryns habe my sadness

south folio
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and i'm saying that if you ignore the omega busted options, there are a good selection of melees to pick from in zealot

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and i also saying that psyker also gets limited in variety as well

left iron
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I told him he needs to exercise

stable cypress
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ogryns don't have it too bad, there's like 1 outright shit melee weapon (pmaul), a couple that have been powercreeped (non mk4 knives and clubs to lesser extent)

visual stream
south folio
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this is not a zealot-only problem by your own definitions

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i don't get why you're singling zealot out in particular

heady rapids
vestal pine
heady rapids
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also you can even play with maul tbh

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bleed carries

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like genuinely

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even this shit is lowkey playable

vestal pine
south folio
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damn i wonder what happens when you stop focusing on carapace and look at psyker's variety in general

heady rapids
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does anyone remember the last time psykers got new toys.......

stable cypress
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even weapons that aren't good vs crusher can be better wtih zealot b/c stagger talent, so like chainswword rev can stop crusher when it wouldn't for vet

heady rapids
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i really fucking hope the new patch delivers

south folio
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and also zealot still having a good variety of melees

stable cypress
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yeah the lack of new staves sucks

south folio
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like this is another point--why are you focusing on ranged so much on zealot

heady rapids
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lack of anything tbh

south folio
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the classes certainly don't have to be equal

heady rapids
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the only big change after p13 was duelling becoming good

vestal pine
heady rapids
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but then again we have blitzes

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so ehhhhhh

vestal pine
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psykers really lack weapon variety yea

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least the skilltree is great

south folio
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the skill tree is also one of the worse aspects of it

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because our permutations are crippled by the locks

stable cypress
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idk what the fuck to do about obscurus but non mk4 duelling swords need adjusted/reworked

south folio
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the other classes can at least make sideways selections even if suboptimal

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but psyker can't even do that

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because of the locks

south folio
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obscurus can have the h1 and l2 buffed

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and that'd be good enuff for the normals

south folio
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that's true

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i forget about ogryn

vestal pine
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thanks

south folio
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i only play the human classes

stable cypress
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and ds4 is corny but part of that is uncanny

vestal pine
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jsut buff ds2 stab to ds4 level

south folio
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no

vestal pine
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why does ds2 stab suckish than ds4 anyway

south folio
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only the lord in heaven knows

heady rapids
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maybe they should make them actually distinctive instead

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and not just

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mk4

vestal pine
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i like what ds5 is trying to offer me

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still have zero idea about ds2 tho

south folio
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they gave every duelling sword light 4.5 cleave 😔

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and based on what yoshi's said, the h2 vs light spam is not particularly that different

heady rapids
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least im hoping for the new patch is at least get some vermintide staves

south folio
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ds2 h1 isn't bad anyways (e.g., they're pretty comparable to knife even if accounting for knife's increased crit chance)
just that ds4 heavies got cranked up numbers for no reason

heady rapids
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or the force greatsword

vestal pine
misty nova
vestal pine
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instead of

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what was it cleave damage

south folio
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defence instead of cleave damage

vestal pine
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or something idk

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yea that

south folio
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mk5 only has a 0.2m edge in dodge distance

left iron
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More stats to dump NODDERS

south folio
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and the dodge happening marginally faster (I think also a number of 0.2 seconds faster?)

vestal pine
south folio
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it's a pretty marginal difference in mobility all things considered

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i'm pretty sure it does decrease but by a little

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the duelling sword and combat knife are unique in this regard

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to my memory

vestal pine
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i just assume its just wack with both defense and mobility

south folio
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well i'll go enable movement analyzer and see

misty nova
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Weird numbers ngl

heady rapids
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can anyone ask fatshark to drop the dev blog

vestal pine
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ds4 also has good mobility after reaching 0 but heard strange things about ds5

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so if it was on zealot i might use it for that reason

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seems fun

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agrapina revolver sucking on killing crushers in 1 mag also sad for me

vast basin
heady rapids
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agripinaa is very weird tbh

vestal pine
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i really like the gun and i have to dump the mag and expect the crusher to live with sliver of health by 50/50

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thanks

heady rapids
vestal pine
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less than a week

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its like 4 days now

vast basin
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Yeah but the patch doesn't include crafting so

heady rapids
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so?

vast basin
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Devblog about what? New weps? Lol

vestal pine
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yes

heady rapids
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i dont see any problems here

misty nova
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Yeah

vestal pine
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ill probably take a fatshark company tour at this point

vast basin
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We already know what they are... How about a devblog about something we don't know KEKW_ogryn

heady rapids
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they'll encase you in their shark statue

vestal pine
heady rapids
mystic nacelle
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we dont know all of them

vestal pine
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we dont know if other weapons are getting variants

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we dont know what motions the pickaxe variations they'll have

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we dont know about their blessings

left iron
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Fatass found the light

vast basin
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You guys are being awfully optimistic when they haven't announced anything besides 4 weps and a map

heady rapids
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they literally said it themselves?

vestal pine
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and whatever easteregg they cram onto the map(singular)

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optimistic about showing pickaxe(3)

heady rapids
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optimistic about them not closing the studio on the day before patch

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idk

vestal pine
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like i fully assume fatshark would only make one and other two is just a game release skin basically trying to cashgrab

heady rapids
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declaring bankruptcy or some shit

vestal pine
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even then it'd be a pretty interesting devlog

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i can be optimistic about them actually releasing something else than the 4 weapkns teased

heady rapids
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This new update features (but is not limited to):*

vestal pine
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but im not looking forward to that on the devlog i just look forward to 4 weapons

heady rapids
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i think sbd from testing said that its gonna be good

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in this server

ornate bone
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what stats does hsword care about the least

vestal pine
south folio
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i welcome any slight improvement

vestal pine
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just actually revert back to oldwayd

south folio
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because we're at the bottom of the barrel

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they would have to be actively throwing to make something worse than what we currently have

vast basin
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I mean we could just get next week'd again

south folio
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(note that i didn't say it was impossible, just that it would be hard)

vestal pine
heady rapids
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alright tag me in a week if i was right

vestal pine
heady rapids
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yeah im pretty certain that there's gonna be at least a bit more than they announced

mystic nacelle
vestal pine
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i dont but good for you

left iron
mystic nacelle
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also always run deathblow on it

vast basin
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"not limited to" means the extra stuff they add is actually game breaking bugs which break the balance like smite+EP or rumbler+burst override

vestal pine
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did they every fix shocktrooper-lasguns

south folio
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difference between mk5 and mk4/2

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(keeping in mind that you practically only use 60% mob mk4/2s)

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mk5 light tech and mk4 heavy tech are roughly the same speed

fleet zealot
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Good morning

south folio
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so at least for efficient dodges, you'll be traversing 1.12x the distance with the mk5 compared to the mk4 in the same amount of time

vestal pine
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speedrun mode aaa

south folio
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so, pretty marginal difference in mobility

vestal pine
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i wish zealot could use dualswords other than 4 and shovels

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would be fun

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also forgot that helbore charge pierces carapace good

summer flax
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What combo u guys use vs hordes with Turtolsky IX?

vestal pine
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spam heavys

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or spam lights

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its a quite simple sword

misty nova
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H1>[H2 H3]

fleet zealot
south folio
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though it makes sense for vet given what vet as a class is, though i dislike ranged options for carapace nonetheless

fleet zealot
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Yea you should just be spamming heavies tbh h2 and h3 loop into each other

vestal pine
south folio
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well you got that in melee options

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this is starting to sound like "play other classes if you want that sort of stuff"

vestal pine
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i am

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i even played melee psykers

south folio
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i hope it is not too outlandish that zealot is more melee-focused compared to vet and psyker

north sedge
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Nearly every melee weapon works for zealot, not lacking variety

summer flax
vestal pine
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or at least variety without relying on fotf

subtle raptor
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what would you want to see in zealot that counts as more variation

south folio
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if it's gameplay that you mean then i can understand what you're saying in terms of how melee combat tends to play out

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if only you were more specific

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yes i agree that melee combat needs to be fleshed out more

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but that's a problem with melee in general

vestal pine
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i guess

south folio
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and zealot gets to suffer from it

vestal pine
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been scraping the bottom of rhe barrel here

vestal pine
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for like idk

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400 hours

fleet zealot
south folio
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just emphasizing stamina once more, nerfing dodges, and buffing blocking

vestal pine
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like folding shovels are cool, sword that has a actual thrust in its moveset(like deimos) is cool, etc

fleet zealot
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Cleave bonuses only affect the hitmass you can swing through it does not directly give you damage otherwise

south folio
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too bad that shit is omega busted and the deimos stab is just straight up 2.5x more damage than a sweeping heavy last time i checked

summer flax
fleet zealot
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HT deathblow lets you multikill elites in one swing, and HT rampage is just double power blessings so it’s a good boost

south folio
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there is no ounce of nuance when the numbers are that big

vestal pine
fleet zealot
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Yee, unlike some weapons, wrath does next to nothing for combat swords

south folio
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ah right it was 2x for heavies

south folio
vestal pine
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if its a bug fatshark has keepen it for 6 months at least now

south folio
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though on the list of easy fixes that fatshark is slow to change

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it's something to do with it referencing the wrong stagger profile

summer flax
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Overall, for zealot if not knife hobo then is Piety for IJ better?

south folio
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it certainly is very abnormal

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because it was changed in one patch

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and behaved normally before that

south folio
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inexorable

fleet zealot
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Oh inexorable

south folio
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mometnum

vestal pine
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3rd

fleet zealot
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Depends on the weapon

vast basin
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Depends

fleet zealot
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In general benefits from crit as a damage source like knife or chsword you go piety, you want a more generalist buff you go momentum, and if you don’t need to rely on cdr and want to purely stat boost your weapon, you go martyrdom

fleet zealot
# summer flax What about crusher?

crusher in a weird spot, but i have to add a correction that blazing piety is so overtuned rn it works for nearly every weapon anyways, even ones that lack crit synergy

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crusher is a great weapon so it isn't tied to keystone choice, some go blazing piety because crusher does have a higher than average finesse ratio, and you can hit a lot of targets per swing, i personally go martyrdom since it isn't really tied to ability boosted power attacks, and others go momentum

hot jolt
spare dome
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thats a lot of plasteel

ornate bone
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damn

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i could never im way too addicted to the slots

ember yew
left iron
ornate bone
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had one of those when i was a kid

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they friendly and floofers

left iron
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Im sneaking treats for him NODDERS

ornate bone
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i used to chase it with my electrical toy car

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i was like 4-5 year old i think

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ordered dis to put on ma wall

hushed knoll
left iron
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Does he look like a salmon?

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Actually, to you he probably does

hushed knoll
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He could be

left iron
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Yeah, i was about to say

hushed knoll
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What

left iron
sterile stone
left iron
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Keeshond

sterile stone
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Woooord

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I will return the favor with a mini Aussie Shepard

left iron
silver granite
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Bruh why do people avoid Hammer Zealot

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I thought People like High Damage and want to dispose off bosses fast

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And Weakened one especially

silver granite
left iron
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Because you can do that with other weapons, the weapon being hard to roll and it having mediocre horde damage

left iron
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Yes. You can control a horde, but it takes a while to kill it

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The blessing pool is full of trash

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And it has 4 stat rolls you dont want to dump

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So finding a base is hard

obtuse stirrup
#

Hammer is kinda power crept atm

#

It used to be THE way to kill bosses

#

Now every class has a way which is much less limiting/one-trick

#

Cowboy vet, gunker, gun lugger ogryn

silver granite
#

Or throw a Krak Grenade at the boss

uncut spoke
#

Amen

silver granite
#

I only play veteran, so idk

left iron
#

Also, its not as braindead as most of the other weapons. You need to know when you can take a powered swing without getting destroyed, how to manipulate the swing hitbox etc

silver granite
#

I only play characters who have ranged abilities

#

Yes I want to play Call of Doody but it's trash now with a release every year that's Ctrl + C Ctrl + V

#

Also fuck activision

#

Veteran is Chad

digital hollow
#

ngl

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im loving the chainaxe

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giga fun

ornate bone
#

hop on dclaw uwu

obtuse stirrup
silver granite
#

I mean Guns

obtuse stirrup
silver granite
#

No I mean Guns with Ranged Abilities that compliment the guns

obtuse stirrup
silver granite
#

And a fuck ton of damage using guns

ornate bone
#

LMFAO

obtuse stirrup
#

OK, all of them besides Zealot

#

You got me there

silver granite
#

Bruh

ornate bone
#

LOL

obtuse stirrup
#

Bruh yourself, gunker and gun lugger are amazing lol

silver granite
#

I play the veteran because they can shout

visual stream
silver granite
#

I like to shout at my enemies

obtuse stirrup
#

I'm just messing with you, veteran is awesome

silver granite
#

Man fuck this shit I'm out

#

You got me

ornate bone
#

LOLOL

obtuse stirrup
#

But the other classes definitely have good gunplay too

left iron
obtuse stirrup
#

Especially if you build them to focus on it

ornate bone
#

zealot is the least guns class tho so idk what ur looking to find here

#

if ur looking for cool sexy people ur in the right place, but guns? nah

silver granite
#

Nah I was just here curious about why Hammer Zealot is Taboo

ornate bone
#

i wouldnt know ive never used hammer

silver granite
#

Like, one guy in NASA LFG literally hates Hammer Zealot and Assail Psyker

#

Every time he posts for LFG, he says he doesn't want them

heady rapids
#

probably insecure about something

ornate bone
#

imagine getting mad at assail but not smite

silver granite
#

Oh he also hates smite

#

Hammer Zealot is always there, but he switches between Assail and Smite depending on mission

visual stream
left iron
#

I, too, exclude the one blitz that turns mediocre players into okay ones that can at least somewhat pull their weight NODDERS

ornate bone
#

people probably blacklist things in their lobby for being too OP

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like dont want to trivialise the game

obtuse stirrup
#

I can imagine banning plasma

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But really only plasma

silver granite
#

NVM he only hates Smite, not assail

ornate bone
#

based

visual stream
#

I think smite can be fun to have on a team, but the fun stops at two or more

obtuse stirrup
#

Also a lot of things are often chosen by shit players

silver granite
#

I hate Plasma too, mfs be begging for ammo the whole game while unloading blue vape cloud on anything that moves

visual stream
#

Like I played purgatus with a smite psyker one time and we made a fire ass duo

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Then there was another time I got matched with three smykers

#

So boring

#

Slop

ornate bone
#

the greatest interaction i had with a smite psyker was he died very soon after i stopped killing the stunned shit for him

silver granite
#

And that guy kept looting all the ammo the entire mission

ornate bone
#

i hate people/builds that rely on teammates to do something for you

silver granite
#

So after he died, we didn't rez him and played peacefully

visual stream
left iron
#

I've started observing smite psykers shoot their funny lightning into a horde, and what happens when they reach their peril cap so far its a 100% downed rate

ornate bone
#

didnt perilpilled edgemaxx

#

the classic blunder

silver granite
obtuse stirrup
#

Is there a lower form of life?

silver granite
visual stream
#

It's funny because they made smite even easier by auto stopping it at 100% peril

ornate bone
#

i usually dont complain about people/builds unless they're very noticeably ruining the game (smikers and plasma gun typically)

silver granite
#

I hate Plasma gun veterans

visual stream
#

If I'm completely honest

silver granite
#

I hope they get gangbanged by 3 reapers

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And 4 ragers

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And 3 gunners all at once

visual stream
#

I would rather play with one weak link smyker than a sweaty revolver veteran that kills everything on the screen that moves

left iron
silver granite
#

I thought Wild West Veteran was the Coolest

left iron
#

He HATES quickplaying into me

visual stream
#

Not when they play the game for you

silver granite
#

Ofc I'm next in like (I use IAG)

obtuse stirrup
#

Revolver veteran tends to be a scrappy melee build for me

#

But I do mine infiltrate, zarona, WS

visual stream
#

If your chosen weapon does not kill thing in one hit from 40m away, you will not touch it

obtuse stirrup
#

And I think chainsword 4 and kraks

#

My Zealot is my real Zarona hog

ornate bone
#

i play fotf zealot and spend 95% of the game rushing people down with my sword

#

i only ever use revo for crushers, bulwarks, maulers and blades for specials and problematic gunners

silver granite
#

I play IAG + Shovel Veteran and I like to do funny bonk on head

left iron
#

Vet is just a funny zealot that has access to peesword NODDERS

silver granite
#

Heresy

#

I mean, imagine charging your melee (This post was brought to you by Shovel Gang)

maiden path
silver granite
#

Spiky bonk on head

minor sage
#

swedish developers man

visual stream
obtuse stirrup
minor sage
#

i dont understand how they're still in business

obtuse stirrup
#

Satisfying as fuck

minor sage
#

lololol

silver granite
maiden path
#

i dont really like the remaster

silver granite
#

Wait, what are the perks + blessings you want again?

maiden path
#

but i respect it for actually being a remaster

silver granite
maiden path
#

and not just an upscaled song bascially

minor sage
#

"btw we're going on our mandated summer holiday, so you're gonna have to wait until after summer "

#

it's insane that it's a business lololol

maiden path
#

the og is way too good

silver granite
#

They deserve le holiday

maiden path
minor sage
#

in the US this company would've already been chopped

left iron
#

Oh no, workers rights

visual stream
#

something something actual worker's rights are an abomination

maiden path
#

yea im gonna start fucking union busting

silver granite
maiden path
#

god bless jeff bezos give me 30000 dollars

maiden path
silver granite
minor sage
maiden path
#

we just have to wait for 5 years untill they decide to do this to their next game and update darktide

minor sage
#

workers rights are irrelevant in this case

#

if a shitty company to work at with bad work culture did this I would also be complaining

visual stream
left iron
#

Yet you're complaining about them taking their holidays stated in the law

minor sage
#

it's not about their work culture, it's about the fact that the content pace is fucking abysmal

left iron
#

Holy shit mate

silver granite
#

Idk man I wanna be an intern at fat shark (I am learning Compilers and C++)

maiden path
#

compared to helldivers 2 content the rate of content for darktide is actually criminal

silver granite
#

It sounds like a cool place

#

To work at

minor sage
#

yep hd2 content rate seems great lul

maiden path
#

helldivers 2 is going insane with their first big game

ember yew
minor sage
silver granite
#

I'm a 10x developer (I read the book or smth idk) /s

minor sage
#

nice

#

i'm a 0.1x developer

silver granite
#

I mean my primary interest is Optimizing Compilers and Programming Languages, though I will apply for the memes

#

I'm pretty sure they need that for Automation Tools and Testing

#

And they definitely have that at a Game Dev Company

minor sage
maiden path
#

2 swedish dollars

silver granite
#

What

minor sage
#

like this is actually slower

#

than valheim dev cycle

#

and those fuckers are slow as hell

maiden path
#

it is pretty crazy how slow darktide is getting updates

minor sage
#

and that was one dude's side project LOL

maiden path
#

atleast terraria gets big updates

#

dude they added an entire BIOME

#

after the 'final update'

minor sage
#

he*

#

it's one dude

maiden path
#

just like

#

uhh

#

uhh

#

its just one dude bro

#

all the music

#

its one guy

#

tame impala

silver granite
#

Uhh

maiden path
#

have u ever seen tame impala playtesting terraria?

#

exactly

#

same guy

silver granite
#

Bro wtf

#

Terraria is made by one guy?!?!?

maiden path
#

yes and its tame impala

silver granite
#

Man Fat Shark needs to up their game

#

I'm gonna try to join there and work overtime

#

If I get the job

maiden path
#

fatsharks content update being like 3 NEW weapons

#

is crazy

left iron
maiden path
#

im not counting the 4 different varients they're gonna add

minor sage
#

like sure you can talk all you want about workers rights and blah blah blah, but in the end; you're a business and you're going to be competing with other games

silver granite
#

Oh no

minor sage
#

i dont think they work hard

maiden path
#

im waiting till they delay the new weapons till after christmas

minor sage
#

tbh

#

like i'm not seeing it lol

left iron
#

Well, then thats what you think

maiden path
#

'It is unfortuante to discover that our weapons were not up to par with our standards! We will be delaying them to after christmas break of 2026. See you then rejects!'

minor sage
#

well good thing is, what I think matters

#

cuz I'm the customer

#

and guess who pays to keep the company afloat?

#

certainly not the swedish gov't

#

LOL

north sedge
#

Dis is a Karen, confirmed

maiden path
#

i can assure you fatshark is gonna release the itemzation update a few weeks into november then take another break

left iron
#

Damn, FS must be quaking in their boots because you specifically arent happy

minor sage
#

I mean I'm sure their financial reports are doing great

#

are they public or private?

silver granite
#

Bro

#

Chill

maiden path
#

fatsharks put more effort into the aquila shop then they have the actual game

silver granite
#

Ngl, I do see Warframe (Made by Digital Extremes which is Canadian) and their content drops are fast af boi

#

I got 3300 hrs in that game haha

silver granite
#

They used to be much higher

silver granite
#

But yeh

minor sage
#

i think that if fs wasn't so slow they can easily compete in playerbase with wf

silver granite
#

Warframe was released in 2013

maiden path
#

it is fucking PSYCHO how fast warframe gets big updates

silver granite
#

Maybe I can try to work there

maiden path
#

i didnt even realise the new stalker update was coming out this week

minor sage
#

it's just that updates 2x a year is simply not enough

#

to compete with games that're getting them every 2 weeks or 3 weeks

left iron
#

Anyway, can you take your doomering back into gen chat? Its so much more pleasant when gen chat specifically exists only in gen chat

silver granite
spare dome
#

DE is twice the size of FS lol

#

also they are basically my neighbours and I assure you DE crunches a lot

silver granite
minor sage
spare dome
#

i mean the company

silver granite
#

And the first major haul was from 2016 iirc

#

That's when Warframe really drew in folks

#

Including me

maiden path
#

ive got copium that they're adding more weapons in the weapon update then they said

spare dome
#

i probably make half of their lattes

minor sage
maiden path
minor sage
#

🫡

maiden path
#

*release

silver granite
north sedge
#

My hot take is play other shit, check in when update happens

maiden path
#

DE.... DROP THE LAVOS DELUXE...... AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

silver granite
#

Do this

north sedge
#

Not worth getting your panties in a bunch

minor sage
silver granite
#

I'm going to play Battlebit remastered now

#

Bye

minor sage
#

I just couldn't help but be astounded

maiden path
#

thats what everyones doing 😭

minor sage
#

at how incompetent FS is

#

at being a game developer lol

maiden path
#

thats why we rarely talk about darktide unless someone asks a question

spare dome
#

they develop fine its just not as the astronomical pace of larger companies who have less workers rights lmao

minor sage
#

can you think of a similarly decent game that has such a slow development cadence?

spare dome
#

no because imo none exist

minor sage
#

I'm trying but I feel like even the slowest are faster

spare dome
#

i don't know of any other 4K based very high graphical fidelity game being managed by just over or under 100 people

maiden path
#

tencent will eventually tell them to kick it up a notch

spare dome
#

everything else uses a gimmick for graphics or is self managed by one dude

silver granite
#

Wait a minute, Tencent owns them?

spare dome
#

nah just a stake

faint cape
#

Tencent owns gaming

silver granite
#

Yeh worker rights in China are non existent

spare dome
#

DE is owned by Tencent on the other hand

silver granite
minor sage
#

well everyone is owned by tencent

#

to be fair

maiden path
silver granite
faint cape
#

If you are a gamer then you will be drafted to fight for china in the upcoming world war

maiden path
#

tencent owns an uknown amount of fathsark

#

i think

#

its really big though

faint cape
#

🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

maiden path
#

its like 90 million

spare dome
#

its 35%

minor sage
#

literally like 90% of companies are owned by tc

silver granite
#

Does Tencent own ea?

maiden path
#

"Later, in January 2021, it was reported that Tencent had acquired a majority stake in the company valued at around 2.2 billion sek (around US$260 million).[7"

fleet zealot
#

tencent is not involved with fatshark heavily

maiden path
#

sek!

minor sage
#

that's an exaggeration but iirc they own like everything

fleet zealot
#

GW is literally right there, they are the ones that push and pull the most with fatshark

maiden path
#

CHINA... MAKE FATSHARK WORK ON DARKTIDE.. AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

fleet zealot
#

tencent just threw on level infinite and went back to their swimming pools of liquid gold

minor sage
#

ye i mean

#

their investment

minor sage
#

into LoL

#

was wild

maiden path
#

i'll sell out to the chinese if they give me 800 million dollars

fleet zealot
#

they have too many companies that are much bigger than darktide is

minor sage
#

and then they also own GGG now

silver granite
#

Anyone here who plays Valorant?

maiden path
#

i'll die if play valorant

#

actual streamer bait

spare dome
#

nobody plays valorant

maiden path
#

atleast csgo can be played outside of being a streamer

silver granite
#

Valorant is literally a Kernel level spyware

#

I swear the game is just a cover up

fleet zealot
#

valorant is where minorities get to go get hatecrimed

maiden path
#

no mans sky is crazy with its updates

#

everyone agrees to that

#

i dont even play the game and even im like 'please no more updates'

silver granite
#

I swear, Valorant is all a cover up so people get distracted from the goofy ahh Kernel Level Anti-Cheat that is a Spyware

#

They are just waiting so enough zoomers download it

silver granite
#

Call me the crazy conspiracy nut but you won't catch me lacking

maiden path
#

idk if this is up to date but a median of 35 employees making THIS MUCH CONTENT is fucking crazy compared to fatshark

minor sage
#

LOL

fleet zealot
# ornate bone what

valorant is an extremely toxic playerbase, so much so speakin on mic as a woman will cause you to lose games because certain randoms will troll you, tk you, throw the match

ornate bone
#

i was told valorant is full of edaters

minor sage
#

this happens in cs, dota, league, overwatch

fleet zealot
#

yes, that's the other half, it's like, the worst split in history

fleet zealot
minor sage
#

every single multiplayer has sexist toxicity

silver granite
#

Guys trust me, Valorant is a way to distract us from the Kernel Level Spyware that is the Vanguard garbage

fleet zealot
#

yes and valorant is up there with the worse ones

minor sage
#

i dont think singling out valo makes sense

fleet zealot
#

then don't play league valorant

silver granite
#

I have never touched a Riot Game

maiden path
#

anti cheat with that panda fuck might as well be bloatware

#

i've never seen it working

fleet zealot
silver granite
#

I can proudly say I never have ever played a MOBA or Overwatch 2

#

Or The Mobile Garbage

#

And any Riot Game

maiden path
#

i like ow2

#

when i play it with FRIENDS

silver granite
#

And my very first game ever was Beyond Good and Evil

#

By Boobysoft (Ubisoft)

#

Wait a minute

#

That turned out nicer than expected

maiden path
#

i'd like to play more tf2 but that game has been INFESTED with people who have played it for upwards of 9 years

#

i cant compete with these fucks!!

silver granite
#

Lol

#

Valve does not know the letter 3

#

Do they?

#

I wonder if we get Abandoned at Steam Deck 2 lmao

#

Chat died huh

maiden path
#

as it does

visual stream
#

I like the mushroom people in BG3

#

Except for Glut

#

That stumpy bastard

haughty haven
#

Is there a +2 wounds curios

visual stream
haughty haven
#

Oh that bites

#

There's +3 Stam that basically make my psyker immortal why they no do wounds :<

visual stream
#

Would be a bit overpowered if there was tbh, at least with martyrdom

clear knot
visual stream
ornate bone
#

aaaa people in reddit recommending maxing the threads in the launcher

#

motherfucker you have background processes too

maiden path
#

cant say task manager

sterile stone
ornate bone
#

lol

hushed knoll
#

@lusty turtle SHOW SLALOM SOUP

#

SALMON

#

FUCK

#

You're not Ice

lusty turtle
hushed knoll
#

@left iron SHOW SALMON SOUP

hushed knoll
left iron
#

Slalom soup?

nimble fiber
left iron
sterile stone
nimble fiber
#

me in an hour fr

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
hushed knoll
left iron
#

What

hushed knoll
#

I'm rapping

left iron
hushed knoll
#

I'm listening to Wendy's training video songs and butt dancing to them while laying down

left iron
#

Stans salmons

fleet zealot
#

alright whatever

#

i'll take it

nimble fiber
hushed knoll
#

HI DOUGH

maiden path
#

columbo batman

maiden path
#

useless ass movie

north sedge
#

🤔

maiden path
#

this is why stallons or whatever da fucks judge dredd movie sucked

#

karl urbans judge dredd was so good

north sedge
#

because they're totally different movies?

maiden path
#

no

#

its cause the stallons one sucked!!

#

but the karl urban one was good!

north sedge
#

No i mean, what does shitty judge dredd have to do with the clip

maiden path
#

cause stallon was shitty judge dredd

#

stallone

north sedge
#

Ok great, what movie is that clip from

maiden path
#

this shit ass costume 😭

#

i dont really care what movie its from im talking about shitty judge dredd

#

pretty easy to understand

north sedge
#

Well, have fun with that

maiden path
hushed knoll
maiden path
#

this scene fucks

north sedge
hushed knoll
#

I'm legit mermaiding so much rn

left iron
nimble fiber
hushed knoll
#

\

nimble fiber
hushed knoll
#

YOU'VE REACHED YOUR CTHULU EYES LIMIT FOR THE DAY

#

STICK BUGS CAN'T DANCE

maiden path
#

judge dredd has such cool designs

hushed knoll
#

Houthi no

#

Doughthony

#

What the fuck

left iron
#

L

nimble fiber
#

F

hushed knoll
left iron
#

What

hushed knoll
#

That is me rn

#

Except partners can't sing

#

Parents

#

Parrots

#

I mean dance

#

Same thing

nimble fiber
#

why are u a green parrot that can't sing stan

north sedge
#

90% of what parrots do

hushed knoll
#

Dance?

fleet zealot
#

parrots can dance and sing

#

yes

#

birds dance

north sedge
#

Both

hushed knoll
#

Parrots can't vermouth

maiden path
#

this mf got so much swag 😭

hushed knoll
#

Mermaid

fleet zealot
#

vermouth mermaid

hushed knoll
nimble fiber
#

but

#

do u truly know stan

hushed knoll
#

SLIDING

#

Into DM's

nimble fiber
#

lmao

north sedge
#

Nope dementia is correct

hushed knoll
#

DOUGH NO

left iron
#

Bay leaf moment

fleet zealot
hushed knoll
#

Houthi is not a good thing to name yourself Dough lol

left iron
nimble fiber
north sedge
fleet zealot
#

did you know there is a problem with ostriches in captivity where they find their human caretakers more attractive then others of their species

hushed knoll
#

Didn't they just get listed as a terrorist group

fleet zealot
#

so it's hard to get them to reproduce

hushed knoll
fleet zealot
#

cause they just want to be with the humans

left iron
#

You cant stop me

hushed knoll
#

Wait so ostriches have relations with their caretakers?

hushed knoll
#

My phone wanted to write ostriches as Österreich lmao @nimble fiber

fleet zealot
#

cause they get too busy trying to court the humans

hushed knoll
#

It means Austria in German acid_do_mathematics

nimble fiber
#

can confirm he is saying the truth

hushed knoll
fleet zealot
#

still, better be careful stan

#

don't fail art school please

hushed knoll
#

It's literally the name of a country acid_do_mathematics

fleet zealot
#

anyways we should talk more about birds that fall in love with humans

north sedge
hushed knoll
#

Who

north sedge
#

Meant for ferret

hushed knoll
#

awry you making rub oug me

#

Are yu makihg fun of me

nimble fiber
#

what

fleet zealot