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stone fern
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rogue likes are not my thing

placid fiber
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It's a rogue lite, but, I can understand that

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Rogue likes you don't keep upgrades or anything in

stone fern
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should i report this shit?

placid fiber
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where as lites you can get unlocks and such

stone fern
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3 bugs in 2 days a bit much

placid fiber
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My adhd makes me more of a fan of rogue lites, more than any other type of game x.x

spare dome
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I played Darkwood as a roguelike and it is perhaps the most memorable time I ever have had playing a game

stone fern
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WAIT shit

placid fiber
spare dome
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But most actual roguelikes lean way too hard on just crushing your balls repeatedly with little counterplay

stone fern
spare dome
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I don't suppose any of you are in the actual Helldivers discord

stone fern
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nope

ember yew
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(Joel)

spare dome
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I am not. But I'm starting to realize, as we enter the second month since its release, that most of the player base seems irredeemably stupid and I suspect they are circle jerking themselves into idiocy with provably bad takes and ideas.

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Because anyone doing self-testing would realize instantly how wrong so many of these takes are. So you'd have to hear it from a dumbass.

open bramble
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that’s prob. true for any live-service game

ember yew
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helldivers honeymoon is pretty much over, but it's still better compared to what happened to Last Epoch (300-3000% inflation and goldsellers), online dropped dramatically also

spare dome
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There's a strong belief that Hunters can jump 50m and attack you.

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And that's so hilariously wrong.

lavish flame
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Do we count ragdolls? kekrat

ember yew
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God bless that Darktide

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dont have friendly fire

open bramble
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helldivers 2 just looks so basic to me

tropic pelican
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pubs that don't know how to prioritise targets getting jumped by hunters because they never check that they're getting flanked

placid fiber
spare dome
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50m is such a wild number to land on, too.

lavish flame
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They jump like

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10

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Not 50

spare dome
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Like no, Hunters do not leap the same distance as the arc cannons maximum range.

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15m I could buy.

lavish flame
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What they can do though is ragdoll 50m after getting shot mid leap

spare dome
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20m maybe with Z positioning, ie. you are below it and it is above you.

open bramble
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I watched my brother play it for a bit and it just didnt look like it had any mechanical complexity in its gameplay

lavish flame
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And thats why its so popular

spare dome
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It actually does have decent complexity, some of it is jank though.

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It's really just a resource management skill check.

nimble fiber
lavish flame
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When in doubt

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Run away

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Unless its a shrieker nest

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Fuck those

spare dome
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If things are shit, hit da bricks

lavish flame
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They need to fix dead shriekers instakilling you

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(And bile titans)

spare dome
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They do but it's also kinda funny

solar gorge
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keep the instakill

frosty herald
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Your getting headshotted

solar gorge
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i like when the enemies are deadly

lavish flame
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Im talking about a DEAD shrieker

solar gorge
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it's when they fall on you yeah

lavish flame
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That you killed

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Ragdolling into u for an instaskill

frosty herald
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Ah so like bile titans

tropic pelican
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Shrieker corpses will instakill anything they land on including biles

sly mauve
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why is the rasha better for horde clear than evis lol

spare dome
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this is hilarious

tropic pelican
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They need better homing or something though because right now you can just walk in one direction and most shriekers will miss

spare dome
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If you prone you're untouchable

lavish flame
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If they do that then they need to reduce the damage

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The main danger of shriekers is they stop you from standing still

solar gorge
spare dome
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Ye

lavish flame
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Which is deadly when u need to reload ur recoiless

spare dome
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You just need any AP really to take it out at range

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If you have none then yall done fucked up

solar gorge
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run to it, toss airstrike

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simple as

lavish flame
solar gorge
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once again, airstrike solves everything

lavish flame
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Takes 6 rockets per nest

spare dome
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27 Autocannon rounds

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For all three trees

lavish flame
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Ye AC is better

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RR burns it all for 1 nest

solar gorge
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i'd use autocannon more for bugs if they'd let you know in advance if the mission includes bile spewers

spare dome
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I just bring it anyway

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Still really good for anything not a bile titan

solar gorge
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i'd rather have 3 strata and EAT

lavish flame
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I cant let go of my RR for bugs

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Tbh

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1 RR in the team is enough to solve the charger problem

frosty herald
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A diver

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Instakilled my mech

solar gorge
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skill issue

spare dome
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I don't think I've even used a mech since the free weekend

lavish flame
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I havent

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Its really good

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But its hard for me to find the slot for it

solar gorge
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mechs is very good for bug

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you use the first one at the start or when there's a big obj to do

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and then by the time you go to extract, you have the second one to hold it

lavish flame
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But my standard strat layout for bugs is

EMS mortar, EMS strike, Precision Strike, RR

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And i cant fit a darned mech in there

spare dome
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I'm trying to diversify

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My loadout is 110, Airstrike/Cluster, Precision Strike, and AC 99% of the time

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More and more people bring the EAT-ITS now so I don't have to

fleet zealot
spare dome
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Hm.

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I think some dipshit just got hit by the train

lavish flame
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Its just too useful

spare dome
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Yep, time for a detour.

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EMS is super comfy

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But stun grenades kinda take the slot for me

lavish flame
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Completely invalidates everything not a charger or bile titan

lavish flame
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There can never be enough EMS

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Esp for bugs cos if you just stand in the middle of an EMS field ur mostly safe

spare dome
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I just need the Titan to sit still a moment for my Precision Strike

lavish flame
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But bots are slow and easy af to catch drops in ems

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I usually just use EMS to shut down breachs

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Like its hilarious how trivial it makes them become

spare dome
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I didn't get a good picture

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Dummy tried to drive his truck behind the train, but the guards were still down and the train was shunting in the yard

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Backed up right into his stupid truck

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Hope it was worth it, idiot.

sly mauve
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how to unbrick

quaint verge
ember yew
# sly mauve how to unbrick

its 344 either way, but i would replace both blessings for Brutal Momentum and Headtaker and use it, if you are a new player

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you cant unbrick this

sly mauve
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who cares about base rating its only dump stat mobility that sux

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important stats are all well above 70

ember yew
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but the only useful thing on this is unarmoured

sly mauve
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kk

nimble fiber
ember yew
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decapitator could work, but its just not that good to use

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that blessing need a rework

sly mauve
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i have a rashad with bad finesse currently and i was wondering if thats the reason why i need 4 headshots for a crusher

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this one is leagues worse than ds4 or deimos

ember yew
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the power of rashad comes with constant headshot oneshot

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and LMB spam for pretty much anything, apart from crushers, bosses and unyelding ogres (you can still spam ogres, but heavies are mor effective)

sly mauve
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it has great special and horde clear but dmg against crushers is meh

ember yew
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at least it can do dmg to them

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better than HSes or DClaws

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  • on headshot you stagger a crusher
sly mauve
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hm maybe i switch to chaxe

quaint verge
sly mauve
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the mk4 is pretty awkward as the heavies dont use chain

ember yew
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mk4 feels stronger to me cuz with insane attack speed his light attack obliterates elites and bosses

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and heavies obliterates everything, apart from crushers (and meh on unyelding)

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mk12 can build Thrust and oneshot crushers

sly mauve
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yeah but the xii can kill crushers with heavies

ember yew
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with delayed heavy swing

sly mauve
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and better horde clear

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guess this one is useable?

quaint verge
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If it survives Hadron treatment

north sedge
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Mk4 can still one shot crushers

sly mauve
north sedge
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Just requires slightly more buffs

ember yew
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i would stop and throw it

sly mauve
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thunderous is good tho?

ember yew
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i did a test the other day

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i got less damage by thunderous boost (Thunderous 4 vs Headtaker 4)

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when i removed headtaker

sly mauve
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kek

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gud2know

ember yew
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it is still a team utility tool for DMG buffs on bosses

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but not like bosses are a common foe

north sedge
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Thunderous is not great

south folio
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and practically only a +10% bonus on bosses since a lot of things dunk on unyielding

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unless it's the headhunters or whatever

sly mauve
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the only reason to use evis2 > rasdhad is the rager stagger

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and maybe the momentum blessing which is goated and slept on

quaint verge
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Also the fury can stun and the special attack on Rashad can also stun ragers iirc

oak ermine
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Meleeing the ragers is more fun, though

quaint verge
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Use fury

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Or stun nades

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Easy as that

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Or throwing knife if you use em

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Just aim at the head

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No need to use evis just for the ragers

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You use the weapon if you enjoy the playstyle, not for a specific enemy type

ripe quest
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Mk IV Chaxe w/ attack speed and just maul Ragers with light spam, most fun way to do it imo.

ember yew
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you can deal with all ragers with ease

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columnus can kill up to 10

spare dome
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dang i am blessed this day

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they didnt give me a pickle slice on this sammy, they gave me a whole fkn pickle lmao

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TOO BAD I H ATE PICKLES

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but still i appreciate the thought

ripe quest
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The next Powermaul probs will top most weapons for Ragers though

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Finesse weapon, good dodges, and a higher damage Smite built in?

spare dome
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i do love topping

ember yew
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i recently discovered my love for Tartar sauce

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if thats the correct name

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Combine the mayonnaise, pickles, lemon juice, capers, dill, Worcestershire sauce, and mustard in a small bowl and stir until well blended and creamy.

coarse dagger
coarse dagger
quaint verge
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how was the ice cream?

coarse dagger
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the one I ate yesterday was delicious and I got chocolate sprink, today was also good. I expect hell in my bathroom later, hopefully after my clinic visit

quaint verge
clear knot
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dripcheck? :3

spare dome
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it do

coarse dagger
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absolutely drenched

oak ermine
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Good.

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What are the pants?

clear knot
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@frozen glen

clear knot
oak ermine
frozen glen
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woman in zealot chat humina humina AWWOOOGAA

oak ermine
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Good boots, you will not die by entanglement in your own shoelaces

frozen glen
fleet zealot
clear knot
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eep well dersreb

coarse dagger
fleet zealot
coarse dagger
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Sorry but I cannot untrans my gender... not now.....

spare dome
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just take hormone unblockers

coarse dagger
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Oh no I haven't started T yet but i disavowed the unneeded feminine influences long ago

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THIS YEAR I WILL GET THE JUICE. MARK MY WORDS, CREATOR

spare dome
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da joose

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Provided to YouTube by Universal Music Group

Iris · Live

Throwing Copper

℗ A Radioactive Records Release; ℗ 1994 UMG Recordings, Inc.

Released on: 1994-01-01

Producer: Live
Producer: Jerry Harrison
Studio Personnel, Mixer: Tom Lord-Alge
Composer Lyricist: Ed Kowalczyk
Composer Lyricist: Patrick Dahlheimer
Composer Lyricist: Chad Taylor
...

▶ Play video
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too bad this band became unsearchable in the age of the internet

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some things you cant predict

coarse dagger
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That's like another band I like then because they share a name with another band and also only have like, 100 views at best :(

clear knot
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id ask if anythings changed but no, still same game from karnak update

coarse dagger
spare dome
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throwing copper is mandatory listening

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its kinetic as fuck

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yeah like that

solar gorge
coarse dagger
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how rude of you......

clear knot
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so real oomfie tell em

coarse dagger
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imagine the smell

solar gorge
faint blaze
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Don’t quite know if this is the appropriate place, but could anyone help with the flesh wound penance please? :3

ripe quest
spare dome
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i love it

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no sound from the rocket devastators

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the fuckers that sound like a trainyard when they fire off

placid fiber
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Welp... I got the marine to the end of the run... time to go die miserably in the past against the stupid monster thing... like every other time I've tried it x.x

ripe quest
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My 2 cents is that rocket infantry should get a laser that visibly aims at you and rocket devs have a max engagement range before they actually start trying to rocket you.

placid fiber
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From what everyone says, tho, it is one of the hardest past fights... so at least I shouldn't feel bad that I am getting omega rekt by it, given my perception issues. :/

spare dome
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the lasers sounds fine until there's eight of them and then it's just visual noise

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im not entirely sure it would actually work out in practice as a result

ripe quest
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They're super funny but also on flat maps Rocket Devs are just throw high stagger bombs at you from literally a 1/3rd of the map away.

spare dome
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since the reality is that the counterplay is the same, you stay near a piece of hard cover and only poke out against one at a time

ripe quest
spare dome
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and ya there's an issue with aggro/fight range on bots

solar gorge
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the one of playing with cover

spare dome
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at a certain point it's just cluttering your screen and telling you something you already know

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so again it sounds great when you jsut want to track one or two

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but up at 7+'s some dropships will lower down six of them

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and thats not including whatever is already on the map/patrols

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at that point i feel like it's jsut a rave of lights and not a lot of useful info

ripe quest
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From what I've seen of T9 bots they don't spawn in that same quantity. We can kill them really fast too, having the lasers would speed that up for the less-visible rocket infantry. Additionally this is a 3rd person game, the visual clutter wouldn't have the same impact.

spare dome
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yea if the team is on top of their shit it's usually not that problematic

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but we're talking about dummies here

frank night
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ppl still unable to grasp that half of every arrowhead game is being randomly instantly killed by an explosion

spare dome
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real smarty pants who think the play when the devastator launches their shoulderpods, they're meant to crouch and start shooting harder

ripe quest
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I have no intent to skew my balancing ideas towards dumb people

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Esp since it's a game with 9 difficulties it doesn't matter below T7

spare dome
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idk, i guess all im sayin is

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i dont want the lasers lul

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and i dont want them for bads either

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but i do agree that bot fight range needs some sort of check

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im sure we've all pulled aggro on one robot sitting on an emplaced MG before

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300+m away

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who is just

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unstoppably accurate agaisnt your extract zone

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and never fucking stops

hushed knoll
placid fiber
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How come you just gotta kill frankenstein, a ship, or a big mafia dude in 3 of the pasts... but in the marine's you gotta take on an interdimensional horror?! x.x

ripe quest
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At the very least the rocket inf need a visual que when they are aiming at you. There are situations where they are hidden by rubble or the landscape and will start shooting at you.

spare dome
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the only full-on bug that ive seen is they will sometimes have their anim bork while executing it

royal vortex
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dudes i cant see on draupnir from across the map pelting me with lasers while i am completely unable to stop them

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fkin HATE the fog

ripe quest
placid fiber
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Like who is this guy, Doom guy's cousin? :/

spare dome
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so they'll square their shoulders in the wrong direction and the rockets STILL come right at you

solar gorge
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i've never been bothered by the rocket infantry personally, they're just so comically inaccurate

spare dome
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yeah the rocket raiders are just

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walking D20's

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devastators though will hit you if you refuse to move

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otherwise you can out-jog the rocket

solar gorge
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i think i actually died more dodging into a rocket that missed than getting one when i wasn't moving

spare dome
ripe quest
spare dome
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Yeah there's no check for range against the player

ripe quest
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If I used like, MG or Knight for suppression I doubt I'd have the same experience.

spare dome
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If you have pulled their aggro with a single stray bullet and you happen to be in LoS

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they gonna shoot you

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fartbugs with their mortar do this shit too though

royal vortex
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i quite enjoy interactions with aggro where u throw a strike at them but they dont have the "i know where you are at all times" thing until after the airstrike hits

placid fiber
solar gorge
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sometimes they get to know where you are as soon as the sratagem's beacon lights up

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very inconsistent

royal vortex
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run up to detector tower looking away, drop stratagem, it doesnt kill detector tower, then it knows where i am

solar gorge
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probably based on how far away you are from them

ripe quest
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Artillery bugs do have a range though. They'll do this thing however where if they're in the middle of a volley and you move away they won't cancel the volley and will just shoot further and further.

royal vortex
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very dumb when it does that shit when u threw it from behind cover and the stratagem comes from straight up in the air

spare dome
solar gorge
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good

ripe quest
solar gorge
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i hate the bile spewers when they go up to you

spare dome
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they will however break out of it to melee you if you get too close

solar gorge
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i'd rather have them stuck in artillery mode

spare dome
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all i know is everything gets a triple tap from my autocannon before i move up

hushed knoll
ripe quest
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Depends on where the artillery bugs are aiming, 90% of the time I need to hit their head and if they're running at me I get free shots at it

solar gorge
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which is why i'd love for the mission briefing to tell me when there's the green variants in the mission

ripe quest
solar gorge
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so i can pick the AC willingly

frank night
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i know where things are aiming based on the canaries in the coal mine

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there will either be panicked moans

hushed knoll
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Have you ever been in a coal mine

frank night
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or explosive screams of terror

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yes stan i have

hushed knoll
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Panicked moans?

frank night
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these are your noises stan

royal vortex
hushed knoll
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I don’t moan while getting shot at wtf

royal vortex
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why are you such a liar

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all the time

hushed knoll
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IM MOTTS

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NOT

nimble fiber
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you're motts?

royal vortex
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he's motts now

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he has stolen the identity he has given to others

hushed knoll
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No

nimble fiber
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stan skinwalker confirmed

solar gorge
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skinwaler

mental notch
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How to deal with few well placed gunners/shotgunners?

vast basin
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Slide up to them/charge at them

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Shoot them

solar gorge
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usually you want to kill them

frank night
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said the horrific shape changer

median steeple
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an interdimensional doppleganger

hushed knoll
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No

ornate bone
coarse dagger
hollow dove
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ayo agri revolver and kant laspistol are newish? I haven't seen them last I played

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are they goodge?

solar gorge
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revolver bad to mediocre and laspistol good

hollow dove
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agri revolver worse than zarona revolver huh

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🥲

solar gorge
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by kilometres

hollow dove
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hows kant laspistol compare to accatran?

solar gorge
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idk, probably worse in term of dps but kills good so i felt nice using it

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i don't crunch numbers

inner vigil
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doesn't agri revolver have more of a rapidfire and faster reload?

hollow dove
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yeah that sounds p bad

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the reload is funny but you already can meme that out with zarona and still have some good breakpoints

spare talon
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if you have mats to spare tho, its worth making one anyway tho

spare talon
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cuz its just so damn cool

mental notch
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Like in situation where my charge is on cooldown, weapon empty and I can't get enough momentum to slide

ripe quest
mental notch
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Am I just fucked in that situation always or is there like a skill that can easily save me from that situation?

mental notch
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I often use momentum blessing so I can easily generate toughness from hordes but it doesn't work on single enemies

hushed knoll
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Exhillious you’re back peepohappy2

mental notch
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swift certainty is nice but I'd have to change my build away from blazing piety

ripe quest
ripe quest
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SC just lets you do it at 0% stamina

mental notch
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oh

placid fiber
ripe quest
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Depending on your weapon Vicious Offering is pretty good too. If you're running Blazing Piety I'd recommend grabbing Second Wind and TDR on crit, both tied together with a steady stream of crits and dodges turns into great survivability. Additionally you have your ult off-CD often so that'll be available if you need it.

placid fiber
hushed knoll
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Ew that’s creepy

placid fiber
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Well, yeah... It's there to murdicate the facility and u gotta be the brave soul who saves the day.

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😉

mental notch
north sedge
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Toughness damage reduction

mental notch
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oh right

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yeah using both of them already

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I can easily survive auric damnation with my zealot but it just annoys me that I sometimes die to just couple of shotgunners cause I can't really regen toughness out of them

placid fiber
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😭

mental notch
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not as easy as ogryn where all I need to do is just heavy hits and dodges and I'm virtually always at 100% toughness

south folio
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helps to run fury

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and having TWBS so you're not staggered when running into them

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and so that you can fight ranged enemies at 0 toughness without being stunlocked

spare dome
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this is how you learn scab shooters are the most fearsome motherfuckers as they start chonking through your healthbar

royal vortex
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this gun is cool

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wish it wasnt terrible

spare dome
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too bad you can never draw it out in time when you need it

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simply implawssiblah

royal vortex
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😔

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did u know a mgxii does everything a bolter does except carapace

spare talon
spare dome
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agrippina revolver reloads three times faster than a bolter

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seems unfair

vast basin
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I mean you can quick draw the boltgun in a couple different ways

spare dome
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ssshh

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implassiwable

spare talon
royal vortex
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oh idk

mental notch
royal vortex
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part of it is that the game is actually applying certain crit stats in an way that makes it awkward to display

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like crit bonus from weapons stats doesnt show up until u fire it iirc

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@spare talon i think they fixed my main issue which was scourge crit chance not showing

south folio
maiden path
south folio
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i want to say that it's health damage only? I've never really paid attention to it

spare talon
maiden path
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HWA

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hunters with attitude

ornate bone
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so nice being insulted becuase i was first in the board...😂

paper pine
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What is this guy playing at lol

spare dome
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hes beyond you

coarse dagger
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go very fast !

placid fiber
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Man there's 1 thing I really like about Enter the Gungeon... it has an option where you can save and quit at the elevator to the next floor, so you don't have to either leave the game on or have to just lose all progress x.x

ivory marlin
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Mfw i might be going into hyperglycemia

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Anyways how are yall doing

burnt ivy
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Hello fellow varlets. Skrat is back

burnt ivy
sterile stone
ivory marlin
sterile stone
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Oh

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I can relate when I eat something I shouldn't

ivory marlin
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yeah i kinda ran out of insulin a week ago

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and uh

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ive been trhowing up since i woke up

maiden path
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the big pokemon ball in the sky

sterile stone
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Have you considered a doctor

coarse dagger
burnt ivy
ivory marlin
coarse dagger
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Hyperglycemia very yucky

sterile stone
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Bruh

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Feeling like you're dying and throwing up should be more than enough of a sign.

ivory marlin
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this isnt the first time this has happend to me

maiden path
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this post has been fact checked by real darktide zealots, no heresy here brother!

ivory marlin
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it gets alot worse

sterile stone
ivory marlin
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im feeling better tho

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so like

sterile stone
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Word

ivory marlin
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i might be fine

sterile stone
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But like

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A professional's second opinion wouldn't hurt

ivory marlin
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my manager said its fine if i dont come in but i feel bad so if im feeling better im going in

sterile stone
ivory marlin
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ill probably be fine

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dont feel like throwing up anymore

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thats a good sign

coarse dagger
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Just be careful, and do what you can to take care of yourself 🫶 sounds like it's lowering

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Type 2 or 1?

ivory marlin
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type 1

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ive had it since 10 years

coarse dagger
#

Ahh yeah that's a tough one from what I hear

ivory marlin
#

its sucks

#

and is expensive

coarse dagger
#

I'm type 2 but I'm sure hyperglycemia is worse for you because you can't just walk it off (literally)

ivory marlin
#

yeah no

coarse dagger
#

Insulin should be free....

ivory marlin
#

i 100% agree

coarse dagger
#

Ah yes let's make the essential hormone expensive 🙄 but I'm glad you're safe

ivory marlin
#

yeah shit sucks

maiden path
#

what the fuck is chat talking about

ivory marlin
#

i met another type 1 who was great it felt nice to talk ablout shared experiences for once

ivory marlin
coarse dagger
#

zealots stay together

maiden path
coarse dagger
#

I rarely meet other diabetics in general and here I thought it would be a common issue

ivory marlin
#

yeah

#

ive met like 2 or 3

#

ive met alot online but thats bound to happen

#

but in person very few

sterile stone
#

The old youtube hoaxes of the early 2000s

maiden path
#

what u mean hoax

#

i hav no eyeballs!!!!!!

#

real creepypasta

sterile stone
maiden path
#

stupid fucking mushroom

sly mauve
#

how many burn stacks the shotgun adds

lusty turtle
stone fern
sterile stone
vast radish
#

Today I am once again going to aggressively bonk things with my hammer

maiden path
#

mikiri counter him

hushed knoll
#

MUSHROOMS CANT DANCE

hushed knoll
placid fiber
#

Welp time to go die to the boss(again) in the Convict's past, in Enter the Gungeon >.>

#

Look at this smug af mf...

#

lol this is the fight scene thing for it

#

Damn it, I got him to ~5% hp this time 😦

nimble fiber
placid fiber
#

oops, I just molotoved myself xD

coarse dagger
#

how did it taste

placid fiber
#

Not bad

#

I avoided damage by spam dodge rolling since that's how you stop the burning status from filling

placid fiber
#

And it can shoot through walls x.x

sterile basalt
#

What perks should I look for on Mk15 evicerator?

coarse dagger
placid fiber
coarse dagger
#

so how did that taste?

placid fiber
#

Oh

#

the molotov?

#

Good

#

I love the taste of molotov in the morning

#

😉

#

I mean who doesn't? xD

placid fiber
gray ice
#

Please don't taste the molotov

stone fern
sterile basalt
#

Also which evicerator is better

stone fern
#

mk 15 is brain dead easy to use but it has a cleave cap of 4

sterile basalt
#

It can’t hit more than 4 enemies with light attacks?

stone fern
#

nope

sterile basalt
#

Even poxwalkers?

stone fern
#

yeah

visual stream
sterile basalt
#

That’s tragic

#

So mk2 is harder to use with its moveset but is generally better ?

placid fiber
stone fern
placid fiber
#

Welp: wish me luck on this annoying ass boss x.x

coarse dagger
stone fern
#

also mk2 evsci has the most stupid shit the combo resets if you use the active half way

obtuse stirrup
#

XV absolutely isn't bad

placid fiber
#

it's just basic

obtuse stirrup
#

Way better than II in single target vs ogryn

stone fern
#

oh no ofc not its just a crutch weapon and can not be super great or else its a "plsamagun"

obtuse stirrup
#

It's just slow on hordes

#

Feels great

#

But in reality slow

stone fern
#

actually

#

i thought the 2h shredder on the mk2 would do more damage since its single target but no

#

huh

#

soooooo

#

whats the point of the mk2 if it does everything worse

fading vale
#

it's moveset is less boring but also jank

obtuse stirrup
#

II does cleave better

#

And still kills single target well enough

brave granite
#

I really dont want to play with dagger dude anymore

obtuse stirrup
#

H1 on II is uncapped iirc

#

Or at least a lot better than 4 targets

#

I just can't get the fucker to work for me

#

I expect it to still do OK single target but I can't make it work for it

stone fern
#

if i wanna put in the time to learn a combo on a weapon its not gonna be mk2 evisc

obtuse stirrup
#

Crusher is the one imo

stone fern
#

ye i agree

misty nova
sterile basalt
stone fern
sterile basalt
#

I don’t use active

stone fern
#

🤔

sterile basalt
#

Idk why but the animation looks like there’s a pause between H1 and L2

misty nova
#

You should....

#

At least every now and then

stone fern
#

well anyhow i was trying it out i have an mk2 with a better shredder than my mk15 and the active on mk2 still does less damage

#

like what the fuck is the point of the mk2 if i cant go L1 SP H2

misty nova
#

It's actually faster to kill fodder with a revved heavy

#

with the mk15

stone fern
#

without perks revved heavy does great single target damage too

sterile basalt
misty nova
#

Yeah

sterile basalt
#

Why’d I use overhead against horde

stone fern
#

also no stamina loss on breaking out of it like with the chax

misty nova
sterile basalt
#

U said fodder

misty nova
#

You want those lights

#

Ugh, I don't think I've been clear enough

spare dome
#

forgot how fun cleaving the mk15 thru heads is

misty nova
#

For hordes, light
For isolated fodder enemies, revved heavy

#

It ignores the shredding animation

#

Which a normal heavy does have

#

Also, a revved light will go up to 7 targets

#

Before you get the animation

#

That you can dodge cancel

sterile basalt
#

So if I get this right
Mk15 is easier to use with better single target, but the light cleave 4 target limit is limiting
Mk2 has better cleave but very ??? moveset, and doesn’t have as good single target

misty nova
stone fern
#

where is the spread sheet with clear

misty nova
#

Keep in mind the revved lights

#

Which makes no real sense

fading vale
#

at the end of the day the H1 loop on the mk2 barely kills fodder faster

#

and you have to keep the correct combo going

misty nova
#

MK2 revved light stops at the first target

#

I'm genuinely expecting the mk15 to be tweaked and nerfed

#

The only reason to use the MK2 is that you are not level 19

misty nova
#

As long as you rev those lights, you'll have 100% crit

#

And if you have that crit, a revved heavy to a Crusher's head will kill it

vast radish
#

Yeah, that's probably gonna be as good as it gets.

#

would prefer headtaker but oh well. god i hate sprint efficiency

maiden path
frosty herald
fleet zealot
solar gorge
#

gonna put some soap in it's eye

fleet zealot
solar gorge
placid fiber
#

Yes, I did it! I got the Robot! :3

#

the wings made that so much easier since pits weren't an issue then x.x

#

The gimmick was if you dodge rolled then you dropped the item you needed to take from the 2nd floor to the 5th floor... x.x

maiden path
#

holy shit i need dragons dogma 2

ornate bone
#

idiotic question: basically with this build i can run any melee weapon, save for those crit-dependant right?

drowsy steppe
#

Yes

frosty herald
placid fiber
#

Welp, take 2 on fighting the Convict's past boss x.x

#

Erm... 3 since this is my 3rd try :/

solar gorge
#

you can play as a dog or cat whaetver if you like animals so much now smh

spare dome
#

ima bite the bullet and finally just do full wound curios

#

im always too much a wimp and need my emotional support toughness curio

#

cant wait to explode

placid fiber
#

Yes! I did it! I beat the Convict's past boss! 😄

frosty herald
#

I couldve gotten it from a checkpoint merchant but i forgor

placid fiber
#

I still had 2 full hearts left as well 😄

stone fern
sterile basalt
sterile basalt
#

Also would it be insane to play scourge + shred + crit CDR when going for a martyrdom build

maiden path
#

dragonsplague upon his savefile

misty nova
sterile basalt
#

Rampage still?

#

Does rev light kill hordes faster than just light spam?

misty nova
#

Rev light hits 7 targets as long as you don't hit specialist/elite

sterile basalt
#

Yes but does that actually kill things faster than light spam

#

Especially given I’d be looking at +30~50% melee atk speed from martyrdom

misty nova
#

Not sure about the damage itself, but you clear hordes faster with rev light

sterile basalt
#

So the horde clear combo is SP > L1 loop

misty nova
#

Yup

sterile basalt
#

Not light spam

#

How does perfect strike work for mk15 evicerator

polar nexus
sterile basalt
misty nova
misty nova
#

I'd drop the shred because bloodthirsty will out perform it

sterile basalt
polar nexus
#

because you you want some cleave and propagate your crits

ornate bone
#

how the evisherator is used, there's some guide around?

polar nexus
#

wait are talking evis or chord?

misty nova
#

Evis Mk15

polar nexus
#

ok, then rampage shred

misty nova
#

Drop the shred

#

Bloodthirsty instead

polar nexus
#

it's like, useful on crushers

#

everything else already dies

misty nova
#

If you're not going for piety, don't use shred

sterile basalt
polar nexus
misty nova
#

Yeah, no piety

polar nexus
#

i use rampage shred + scourge on bp build

#

on martyr crit, i use taxes or claw

#

my experience is that you're not benefitting from scourge as much with an evis on martyr

sterile basalt
#

I was thinking of just replicating martyr Rashad but with a lower Dmg weapon so scourge can actually stack

misty nova
#

Listen, if you want to keep scourge with the mk15, give it bloodletter, however, it will kill faster than you actually want

polar nexus
misty nova
sterile basalt
#

So

#

Bloodthirsty + rampage on Evi 15 for crit CDR

No scourge or crit TDR

polar nexus
#

my evis martyr build is basically rampage + bloodthirsty / momentum

sterile basalt
#

Mind sharing a build

#

Cuz no scourge or crit TDR I get 4 more points to spare

#

Do I want sustained assault on evicerator?

delicate shadow
#

sustained is pretty much good on everything

#

idk what bps in specific you get out of it

sterile basalt
#

So I have 4 spare points

sterile basalt
#

Otherwise I’d just play a Rashad tbh

polar nexus
#

oh ok

polar nexus
misty nova
#

Take that extra toughness boost and give it to Duelist

sterile basalt
polar nexus
#

evis wp crit wp dm is a bit whatever

sterile basalt
#

Also what ranged weapons are best to pair with martyr build

polar nexus
#

it's not a knife

shadow axle
misty nova
polar nexus
#

is it better than headtaker? nah probably not

maiden path
#

where my criken fans at

polar nexus
#

on paper at least, because in pracice it still chops heads

shadow axle
#

I wish I could trade out my throwing knives for sharp pieces of copper I took out of the Mourningstar's walls.

sterile basalt
#

So I’m considering smth like this (4 points left)

Should I go selfish and run TWBS, or get SoC + anoint in blood

polar nexus
#

i consider twbs more important but that's a personal choice

sterile basalt
#

Also how does bloodthirsty work in a cleave

#

Let’s say I rev and swing, hit 7 enemies

#

First one I hit dies instantly

#

Does that mean the next 6 enemies get critical hit?

#

Or it’s not crit, and I need to swing a second time

polar nexus
#

i don't understand Oo if you rev and kill next hit is a crit

north sedge
#

It's the next attack

polar nexus
#

yeah, so you chain rev

#

this is how a psykhanium warrior kills 1 million cruchers

sterile basalt
#

Ok

north sedge
#

Cleaving only counts as 1 attack

sterile basalt
#

Also, how does perfect strike work

#

Does it have a similar 4 target cap like BM

polar nexus
#

no

sterile basalt
#

So it’s uncapped

#

And it says “reduce armor hitmass”

#

What is that

polar nexus
#

bm is just apply first target dmg to 4 targets

#

every enemy has a hitmass

sterile basalt
#

Let’s say scab rager, 10 mass

polar nexus
#

basically pox are on the lower end and crushers on the higher end

sterile basalt
#

What does perfect strike do to scab rager

polar nexus
#

iirc it reduces hitmass by 3/4

fading vale
#

perfect strike ignores carapace stoppage and reduces hitmass to 0.25x

polar nexus
#

ah yeah i forgot the carapace bit, because crushers will stop your cleave

bitter yoke
#

Ignores bulwark shields as well

polar nexus
#

you can counter that with perfect strike and sunder

#

because shield is carapace as well no?

sterile basalt
fading vale
#

I think bulwark shields count as cara but I really am not sure

bitter yoke
#

Offers you a viable way of keeping mixed hordes under cc

polar nexus
fading vale
bitter yoke
#

So I guess so

sterile basalt
#

So would I be insane if I consider bloodthirsty + perfect strike on mk15 evicerator

fading vale
#

yes

polar nexus
#

why would you do that

fading vale
#

pointless to mix those 2 blessings

royal vortex
#

u get p much 0 value since its target capped

sterile basalt
#

Oh perfect strike doesn’t bypass the target cap?

royal vortex
#

nope

bitter yoke
fading vale
#

well that and the whole shtick of perfect strike is to ignore things and spam m1

#

and a special is going to stop on elites

#

so

sterile basalt
#

That’s just tragic

#

So bloodthirsty + rampage ig

polar nexus
#

you still get ''cleave'' for stagger and crits tho

fading vale
#

nothing in the game except for BM/deathblow changes cleave profile

polar nexus
#

it's more like it ignores it completely

bitter yoke
fading vale
polar nexus
#

cleave? whatever, boom 4 elites dead

fading vale
sterile basalt
bitter yoke
polar nexus
#

and that's when you want to spam f

fading vale
#

it's pretty damn hard to miss with light spamming an evis

maiden path
#

any news on darktide update

sterile basalt
polar nexus
#

next week

maiden path
#

THAT ISNT A HOTFIX

polar nexus
#

withevis buff, youhou

#

have you heard??

#

evis bufff

#

i am so glad

maiden path
#

i want REAL SHIT!!!

#

graaah i want new penances

fading vale
#

there are no other crit blessings except for bloodthirsty which is mostly for crushers and shreds uptime is super high

maiden path
#

and maybe cpu optimizing

fading vale
#

so if you are memeing with crit spam it's not like you want to run anything else

sterile basalt
bitter yoke
sterile basalt
#

So if I can just rely on bloodthirsty with rev light for horde & crit CDR

#

I don’t need scourge

bitter yoke
#

Cause it's not gonna drop when you really need the crit from it

fading vale
#

you could try it but I have my doubts about it's effectiveness

#

isn't the startup time of the rev on 15 noticeable too

inner cargo
#

Does zealot have any good head cosmetics thats isn't eyepatch or eyepatch with hood

bitter yoke
polar nexus
#

gimp mask

south folio
polar nexus
#

YES

south folio
#

no

frosty herald
inner cargo
polar nexus
#

let me be your slave

inner cargo
south folio
#

kill

inner cargo
south folio
#

there's the moebian gas mask and just the hood w/o eyepatch that i like to run

south folio
#

otherwise i just run w/o a helmet on zealot

fair igloo
fading vale
#

executioners hood is best head cosmetic

fair igloo
#

IT'S THE ONLY LIKE DECENT FREE ZEALOT HEAD COSMETIC

south folio
#

nice gimp mask

#

yeah zealot helmets make me sad

inner cargo
fair igloo
south folio
#

WOW

polar nexus
#

i am a gimp mask / rebreather aficionado

fair igloo
#

THAT'S WUT U GET ARCO!!

tropic terrace
#

Finally had my first ever super toxic match

south folio
#

i will drown in the river of my own tears

bitter yoke
fading vale
#

or if you really wanna have some drip there is this one

polar nexus
inner cargo
fading vale
#

excuse me it's not goblin it's a gnome

tropic terrace
#

guy cussing me out for taking my mate onto Maelstrom with a blue bolter, threw the whole match, had a whole baby rage in chat, other teammate refused to kick as well, would push poxbursters into us, 99% waste ammo crates, the whole thing

#

we still won

frosty herald
#

Maybe the krieg set will rotate back

polar nexus
#

oO

#

i like the last zealot drip\

fair igloo
#

i wish they'd let us earn aquillas somehow 💔

bitter yoke
polar nexus
#

i wanted to have some more black drip

tropic terrace
fair igloo
#

Also they need to add in more weapon skins

#

Likeee i want to have matching colors but some skins for certain weapons just don't exist 💔

tropic terrace
#

decided it would just be easier to three man it but our other brainlet kept reviving n refused to kick as well

frosty herald
#

In 90% sure well get new drip with the penance rework

tropic terrace
#

fucking crazy people honestly, nothing even wrong with his build except his bolter isn't fully crafted lol

inner cargo
fading vale
#

I like to leave dipshits on the ground and make them watch but somebody always revives them

inner cargo
#

Like unironically

#

The only thing I really wait for

polar nexus
#

i finally got my accuracy penance done, after 1.3 year

#

thanks kant shotgun

inner cargo
#

I used plasma for that

#

The only time I used PG on veteran

polar nexus
#

i used special 99% of the time

tropic terrace
#

would've gone 90% smoother if our other teammate had a functioning brain, I'd be less mad

polar nexus
#

underleveled?

sterile basalt
tropic terrace
polar nexus
#

it's not like people in the hundreds with transcendant weapons can do better mael than others

tropic terrace
#

Exactly, and he did just fine as well

sterile basalt
#

I took a friend who got the game for only 15hrs with a lv20 zealot and we played damnation just fine

stone fern
#

hes a zealot right?

polar nexus
#

i did a hisg auric with a lvl 26 not so long ago, it was fine lol

tropic terrace
#

oh so he's a known character?

stone fern
polar nexus
#

zealots are assholes

stone fern
fading vale
#

this is why you get the true level mod

tropic terrace
#

damn same haha, feels like im back in Vermintide

sterile basalt
#

I blocked 2 recon lasguns DC sword veterans a while ago for being absolutely horrible at the game

polar nexus
#

i mean, i realized that with the scoreboard at the end

fair igloo
polar nexus
#

i do not have the luxury to block in oceania

south folio
#

imagine playing zealot cringe

polar nexus
#

except racists

sterile basalt
#

And ofc they couldn’t handle being told “learn melee pls”

inner cargo
misty mason
#

Must be tough blocking most of australia

polar nexus
#

martyr knife zealots

polar nexus
tropic terrace
tropic terrace
#

(not rly, but it does annoy me to see like level 250+ people play horribly)

stone fern
#

my block list is reserved for people who grief and vets who play ammo hungry guns and dont bring survivalist

fading vale
sterile basalt
# round canopy GANG

I’m ok with people playing whatever they want but using suboptimal weapons, not knowing how to play the game at a baseline level and still queueing into damnation expecting to get carried is just a bit confusing

misty mason
#

Darktide players are the biggest assholes

stone fern
inner cargo
# fading vale

Me when I do knife's job better by spamming LMB
(Crit evi 15)

polar nexus
#

everything above 350 or 400 i will have some expectations

fading vale
#

tbf recon + claw vet is probably one of the worst loadouts you could possibly run

polar nexus
#

below, i don't it can be a noob, an alt or whatever

round canopy
misty mason
#

Rashad + plas, my love

sterile basalt
fading vale
#

oh man I have a screenshot for claw vets pre patch 13

polar nexus
#

i mostly use a claw on vet :/

misty mason
#

Rashad is almost definitely in the top 3 melee weapons in the game imo

#

If not number 1

fading vale
#

woo brutal momentum

sterile basalt
stone fern
#

ive seen vets nail 3 crushers with one

sterile basalt
misty mason
#

Cant wait for the blessing update to make all the good weapons bad and all the bad weapons mid

polar nexus
#

that's improved krak i think

fading vale
polar nexus
#

why use krak to kill a crusher when you can parry it?

fading vale
#

these vets didn't know what they were getting into

stone fern
round canopy
stone fern
#

that said i tried it and im awful with them

round canopy
#

The bolter that made it to auric maelstrom

#

What a hero

stone fern
#

lmao

sterile basalt
polar nexus
#

the bolter that broke mael

misty mason
#

I wonder if the crafting update will change mods

stone fern
misty mason
#

Like, scopes etc

sterile basalt
#

I run combat axe purely because I expect nothing out of QP teammates to be able to horde clear

fading vale
#

what if BM was instead somehow engaging instead of ignore all the game mechanics and weapon design

misty mason
#

pshh

round canopy
polar nexus
#

i don't think bm/ deathblow will change

fading vale
#

of course it will

#

would be stupid not to

polar nexus
#

they have no idea waht to do with it

misty mason
#

They just buff it

polar nexus
#

they changed the blessing 3 or 4 times already

fading vale
#

they changed it once afaik

misty mason
#

At least you have to hit heads for bromentum

polar nexus
fading vale
fading vale
polar nexus
#

we already had that discussion, you thought it was 1.5 and i was like, no mate 2.0

#

man that refresh was soooooooo stupid

stone fern
polar nexus
#

let's say we do something stupid but indefinitely

fading vale
#

I mean let's be honest

#

even without the refresh it was up almost all the time

misty mason
#

Just aim up lmao

south folio
#

yeah p much the taxes that benefited from it

sterile basalt
#

The most they can do for BM is prob buff combat axe cleave and nerf BM to 2~3 targets

polar nexus
fading vale
#

I don't know what you mean by this

shadow axle
polar nexus
#

you could gain multiple stacks and not one at the time

fair igloo
#

all of my characters except my ogryn are tactically the shortest height cuz it means hounds pounce over me half the time

sterile basalt
shadow axle
fading vale
#

it was a bug

shadow axle
#

I'm just tryna look like a meth-addict out here.

#

Is that so much to ask, Fatshark.

polar nexus
#

i still see some p[eople naked, why?

fading vale
#

there's a mod but it's for yourself

north sedge
#

Bring back slendergryn

fading vale
#

uh idk I've heard tale of it but idk how people are doing it

north sedge
shadow axle
#

What I want is a head cosmetic for zealot that's just some mouth-slobber.

polar nexus
#

there's this psyker in trunks with a looooong and thicc deimos

royal vortex
#

good lord

polar nexus
#

hsword bolter?

royal vortex
#

yea

shadow axle
#

I still don't understand why the hsword gives you a slower run speed than the whole-ass eviscerator.

royal vortex
#

heavy sword is weighed down by its immense swag

#

eviscerator is not

misty mason
#

Cause if you hold the evisc in front of you, it makes you fall over forward

#

So you have to run faster to not fall over

#

thumbsup_ogryn science

stone fern
#

checks out

shadow axle
polar nexus
#

because the evis has an engine

shadow axle
#

You wield a sword, you ride an eviscerator.

polar nexus
red pollen
#

Is this trash? 2500 Melk bucks. I have 14k and all new weeklies. Don’t have a mk2 heavy las pistol at all

polar nexus
#

put infernus dumdum on it

misty nova
royal vortex
#

swap between the eyes to dumdum and u have a not awful one

#

perks are kinda w/e

stone fern
#

I have never seen melk give me a 380 ever

shadow axle
polar nexus
#

and use it in a bp build

sterile basalt
#

Primarily because Between The Eyes is a wasted blessing on laspistol