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calm salmon
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not great, not bad

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high risk

median steeple
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Fuck it make an evis that just stabs

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I dont care if it doestn make sense

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it would be funny

calm salmon
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ogryn knife is right there

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and its bigger than your eviscerator

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mk4 cleaver my beloved

patent patrol
# median steeple it would be funny

I want an evisc where the special is literally just impaling the opponent and letting that shit spin inside their body, tearing up their insides.

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I know, I'm brutal.

median steeple
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i will NOT be playing og ( I feel so slow )

calm salmon
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I have the opposite problem on smols

median steeple
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also I only ever really use the shovel on og anyway

plush raptor
calm salmon
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I don't notice any of the speed differences on their weapons

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unless its knife or bolter

plush raptor
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oh you mean ogryn

calm salmon
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Because everything feels amazing compared to ogryn slab shield

ripe quest
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no

calm salmon
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so the minute differences in mobility just don't get caught by me

plush raptor
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thats about it for me

ripe quest
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That's not what you use on Mk II.

calm salmon
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I mean, slab shield is an amazing weapon

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riding on BM, granted

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but amazing nonetheless

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Its just sl0w

ripe quest
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I see why you think the Mk II is bad if you're just qqing it

fleet zealot
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puri are you still h1 qq'ing

calm salmon
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No lmao KEKW_ogryn

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I just like to make fun of it

fleet zealot
calm salmon
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it being mk2 eviscerator

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its just an awkward weapon

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and that's just the fax

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whether you like that or not is up to personal taste

ember yew
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its on the same level as ironhelm, tho ironhelm is better in that regard

ripe quest
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Sometimes I forget that you're a necessary evil to act as a check and balance for normal people

calm salmon
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uh

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if I weren't an ogryn that'd hurt my feelings

drowsy steppe
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fucking cursed

calm salmon
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not as cursed as his laptop setup

calm salmon
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if you mess it up once, you're thrown into the absolutely worst moveset I have ever seen on a melee weapon in any game ever

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at least h1/h2 loops forever as long as you're hitting stuff

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just don't miss 4head

drowsy steppe
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real

median steeple
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does nexus have an option to see what mods I've downloaded before?

ember yew
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download history

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and it also shows as "Downloaded" if you browse the thing

visual stream
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When you get used to it it feels so good to play nomnomnom

median steeple
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ah I found it thanks

visual stream
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Weaving into the cringe part of the moveset in the times that you actually can utilize it feelsgoodman

calm salmon
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its just that the damage is so not worth it

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why can't I kill a crusher with it Sitgryn

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rest in peace bardin greathammer, you will be missed

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or coghammer, it doesn't really matter. Both of em function the same, just on different attacks(light for BGH, heavy for CH)

visual stream
calm salmon
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my greatest weakness in gaming

visual stream
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I mainly use H3 to kill squishy elites and specials faster than charging it up and without self-stun, other than for bigger boss damage

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Oh and also for setting up mauler BP with momentum

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calm salmon
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funnily enough, I can already feel hd2 breaking me out of it

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with their stratagem system

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its infuriating to fumble a stratagem that needs to go out right now

while fumbling in darktide is like "whoops I took 45 hp damage"

visual stream
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Ironhelm takes skill away from having to focus on hitting one specific target, but gives that skill to working and maximizing the moveset with good flow B)

drowsy steppe
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I couldnt care less about having to swing manipulate to hit my targets

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and being able to cleave through mobs against priority targets like the assassination targets is much much more optimized gameplay

visual stream
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Ironhelm's version of skill expression is more fun for me too

elfin steppe
visual stream
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Feels like you're weaving and setting up your next move before you make it, them buffing the self-stun to be shorter makes it feel even better too

elfin steppe
calm salmon
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to get acceptable dps on crushers

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Heavy 1>Push Attack>Heavy 1>Push Attack - not particularly complex, but at least its more than braindead hold heavy attacks

coarse dagger
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ragers should attack me more often I'm so small and vulnerable and will not parry any of their attacks

drowsy steppe
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shes so cute

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alright last one, carry on everyone

coarse dagger
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she looks cool

coarse dagger
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LMFAO

median steeple
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best companion up there with gale and karlach

sharp oyster
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Is stopping power important on IAGs?

obtuse stirrup
drowsy steppe
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Yes

obtuse stirrup
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More so than damage

sharp oyster
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Hmmm better dump this one

drowsy steppe
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Affects your damage mod against armor types

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And stagger

obtuse stirrup
sharp oyster
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Well I did it on the first try

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I'll try again

obtuse stirrup
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Good starter gun maybe

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Inspect the gun and see what the stat specifically does for you

sharp oyster
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Idk I just want to collect solid weapons and slowly getting used to it

obtuse stirrup
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It benefits certain armour types

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Does nothing to others

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But the types it benefits are important

sharp oyster
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I see

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oi how do you use the thunder hammer

obtuse stirrup
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Me?

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Very badly

sharp oyster
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I meant to say how do you use it in the context of how to use the hammer

sharp oyster
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Never used them so I don't know what does the two hammers

patent patrol
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also what did you mean by unbrickable if you don't mind me asking.

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like impossible to fuck up?

calm salmon
patent patrol
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LMAO

sharp oyster
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You have 2 free modifications before it locks out

patent patrol
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I meant with the rolls

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but eh

sharp oyster
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if you get 2 horrible rolls you can just replace them

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and have it solid

sharp oyster
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wanna see me getting busted by Hadron

soft galleon
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im new to this game

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does this game have a story mode?

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or what

patent patrol
fair igloo
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There's a specific order the missions are supposed to be played in but the game doesn't tell you so u have to basically just guess :)

sharp oyster
visual stream
# sharp oyster Never used them so I don't know what does the two hammers

Crucis hammer has one single target attack when you charge it, it does 25% more damage on charged attacks specifically. Ironhelm's charged attack can cleave through practically as many trash mobs as you can hit until you hit a special/elite, and has a slightly different moveset as well as a shorter self-stun when you use the charge

formal umbra
patent patrol
soft galleon
formal umbra
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and the plot moves forward from there

soft galleon
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like story ends?

formal umbra
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yea, at level 30

sharp oyster
formal umbra
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then you can just keep playing

fair igloo
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There's a story through the missions but fatshark expected everyone to be playing when they first came out so they don't actually tell u the order of the missions

soft galleon
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oh

formal umbra
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they added another story thing with the karnak twins boss fight too

soft galleon
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so

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how long

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is the

sharp oyster
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barely has story

soft galleon
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campaign basically

sharp oyster
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10 hours of gameplay and you're lv max

formal umbra
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about how long it takes you to get to level 30

soft galleon
fair igloo
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I would think of it less liike a campaign and more like every mission is a DRG mission or PD2 heist

visual stream
sharp oyster
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Coop from future in Warhammer universe is fun

patent patrol
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I personally love it

sharp oyster
median steeple
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shred is good with rampage for crit builds

fair igloo
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I don't care if there's a story i'm going to rescue this goat and stuff it in the getaway van

sharp oyster
formal umbra
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its a game like left 4 head or deep rock galactic where you play missions with others and its different each time

sharp oyster
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Do I gamble

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or dump

median steeple
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gamble

patent patrol
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do it.

soft galleon
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is starfield good?

formal umbra
sharp oyster
formal umbra
patent patrol
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This is mine rn. Ngl I know people hate on block efficiency but it's not the worst to me personally.

formal umbra
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STARFIELD IS ASSSSSS DAWG

patent patrol
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I like the defensive capabilities of it

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but eh

fair igloo
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it can't even be modded because of how bad its foundation is ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ

formal umbra
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its a worse fallout 4

sharp oyster
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How useful are the bleed stacks...from that blessing...?

formal umbra
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but in SPAAACE

soft galleon
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any other coop game

fair igloo
soft galleon
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fun

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with story

patent patrol
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so it's not THE WORST

sharp oyster
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Why is it always Tier III the blessings this game gives me

drowsy steppe
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It's good to proc piety and by extension crit cdr

formal umbra
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most co op games arent story heavy but if you like rpgs then bladurs gate 3 is excellent with friends

formal umbra
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9/10 game and only gets better with friends

sharp oyster
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what is the story

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dwarfs working

formal umbra
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ROCK AND STONE

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ripe quest
visual stream
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ROCK AND STONE

drowsy steppe
ripe quest
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It's fairly weak and is a nice addition if you can get bleed stacks up through talents. Otherwise it's niche and takes up a blessing slot.

drowsy steppe
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Good god your name is a Greek tragedy

ripe quest
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Stan butchered it

drowsy steppe
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Ofc he is

fair igloo
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BG3 is amaaaazing

drowsy steppe
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A disaster in situational awareness

visual stream
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Has anyone here watched any of the RE movies

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They can be almost as silly as the games

drowsy steppe
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That's just your average human male fighter

ember yew
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damnation, degeneration and i forgot the other ones names

visual stream
ember yew
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just fanservice content

visual stream
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I saw the one where there was an outbreak on a prison island and the big bad guy made a huge flesh monster

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RE is like entirely written with the concept of "rule of cool" but it's kinda charming

formal umbra
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RE kicks ass

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And Leon is hot

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What more can you ask for

ember yew
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ada summer skin dlc

fleet zealot
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im gonna tft post and no one can stop me!

ember yew
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lulu was hawt in 2005 when i played FFX on ps2

fleet zealot
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BIG STRONG MYTHICS

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she is strongest tomato!

median steeple
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the minion impersonator

drowsy steppe
polar nexus
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Mah lulu. But she has a similar look

north sedge
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Lulu from ffx

drowsy steppe
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She looks nice HYPERNODDERS

patent patrol
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One of these is not like the others

maiden path
fair igloo
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It goes from monster hunting to monster POACHING

frosty herald
frosty herald
maiden path
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is that the thing

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where u charge

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i only do that when I do the standing charge move where i spin

frosty herald
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you hold right trigger and press B

maiden path
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but not the grapple or slide

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is that where he does the fucking chest bump with the hammer

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and it turns red

frosty herald
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yeah

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it glows red

fair igloo
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If u envision the monster's head as a nail it powers up your hammer by 2x

maiden path
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i do dat arleady..

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also lance is BORING

fair igloo
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do it MORE!

maiden path
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for now it is

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once i beat iceborne ill pick it up again

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when I have armor that works with it

frosty herald
maiden path
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i like it

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even if its boring

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its simple

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doesnt work good rn doe..

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hammer works better

frosty herald
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i also suggest doing the last white knight quest for the guild cross hammer

maiden path
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diablos is the most annyoying fucker possible

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all hed oes is chrage

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or go underground!!

frosty herald
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black diablos is worse

fair igloo
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I want to try out other weapons but i'm so proud of my guild card having only hunting horn on it so i'm considering just making a new character

maiden path
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im farming hr black diablos

frosty herald
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3 charges back to back

maiden path
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cant wait to farm mr black diablos

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for his armor

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:augh:

fair igloo
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Trying to kill one of the diablos variants before they decide to go to the thunderdome ๐Ÿฅน

frosty herald
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erm actualy black diablos are females in heat but cant find a mate

maiden path
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fake...

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i saw a black diablos turf war the same diablos 3 times...

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das a hater...

fair igloo
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thta diablos wasn't good enough DUH

frosty herald
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femcel diablos

maiden path
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fucker won even without horns ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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how the hell u lose to a diablos without horns ๐Ÿ˜ญ

fair igloo
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That diablos was 5'11 sooo

maiden path
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this build will fuck 10x hgarder when i get black diablos armor

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cause it has partbreaker

fair igloo
maiden path
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das like two cars

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ramming into eachother

fair igloo
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WELL

maiden path
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and the one with no bumper won

fair igloo
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one car is obv. stronger

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soo

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it's like one of the older badly designed cars that don't shatter and make the driver take all the force

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vs the ones that crumple up to protect the driver

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or something

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i dont know cars

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god i have so many good mhw clips w/ friends one of my favorite games ever

frosty herald
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Je suis monte!

maiden path
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u'd think diablos horns would be stronger

visual stream
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Love MHW

frosty herald
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Greatsword in rise fucks hard

fair igloo
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greatsword in world f*cks hard too oh my GOD i want to try it so bad

frosty herald
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Surge slash rage slash hunting edge and power sheath

fair igloo
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not mine obv but i HAD to download it
it's just that cool

frosty herald
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If surge slash is in wilds im gonna be so happy

maiden path
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i need transmog..

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i need big deer fur dcape armor...

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i cant keep using mix matched sets

fair igloo
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tip if u everplay hunting horn... u can transmog hunting horns to pick the one with the coolest songs...

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COUGH zinogre horns COUGH

maiden path
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dont oe fhte huinting horns

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play the mh theme

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proof of a hero i mean

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dooo doood ooo dood od dod dodo

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dooo doo doo doo doodddood od dooooo

patent patrol
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Dammit. It's a 3/4.

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Oh well.

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So, what do I replace. Block efficiency or crit chance

maiden path
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i wish the best bows werent kulva taroth

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kulva taroth weapons are so ugly ๐Ÿ˜ญ

patent patrol
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also what blessing instead of bloodletter

stone fern
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I like rampage and block is kinda underrated though its better on curios than weapons

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no wait i thought that was the other one

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rampage is rampage i like the toughness one

maiden path
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WTF

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NORMAL DIABLOS

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CAN WIN

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TURF WAR

drifting wolf
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it can yeah, i think it's a lot rarer though

maiden path
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he aint no punk ๐Ÿ˜ญ

patent patrol
# calm salmon impossible for hadron to ruin

Well, this is the end result. What do I replace bloodletter with? And do I replace block efficiency or crit chance? This is probably gonna be used on a crit build so I was thinking of keeping crit chance.

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I assume I want Shred?

fading vale
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may as well do bloodletter to shred and block to I would assume flak

patent patrol
fading vale
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yeah both the perks suck but block efficiency is pretty pointless in this game

patent patrol
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at least on crit builds

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5% is 5%

fading vale
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not when you already get 80% with shred and a crit build

plush raptor
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what blessings should I be looking out for on a mk 2 thammer?

fading vale
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but if you aren't running piety it would have higher value for a hybrid crit build

fading vale
north sedge
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plush raptor
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๐Ÿ‘

patent patrol
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Is low finesse a bad thing?

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or?

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cause this is in the shop rn

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like is it a dealbreaker on chainswords?

fading vale
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it's not ideal but it's probably worth upgrading if you don't have anything better

patent patrol
plush raptor
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also

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what modifiers are not important on a mk2 thammer?

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or

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least important

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sturdy knoll
visual stream
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Every stat on thammer is important or good except for that one

plush raptor
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gotcha

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what about perks?

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flak unyielding?

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carapace maybe?

sturdy knoll
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Carapace and Unyielding for me personally, but Elite and Unyielding is good too.

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generally Unyielding at the very least if you feel okay with the other one you got.

fleet zealot
coarse dagger
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put them in the woods

visual stream
# plush raptor carapace maybe?

I would say that carapace doesn't really do much of anything for you on hammer, unyielding and flak is a good combo but unyielding seems to be the fan favorite

ornate bone
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everybody was gansta till martydom zealot enters the roomwatching

coarse dagger
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Let my tinyass ragdoll of a martyr zealot have fun in the nurgle moshpit

sturdy knoll
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I'd say the only other stat that maybe doesn't matter as much is First Target. having it at 60% is a 1.03x bonus and having it at 70% is only 1.06x.

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but still preferable for Defenses to be the dump stat

north sedge
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no

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first target matters

plush raptor
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man

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darktide crafting fucking sucks

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I just spent like 2 weeks worth of materials on a few thunder hammers

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and none of them are that good

fading vale
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carapace doesn't help you on a crucis

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elites is ok

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but you don't want cara on an ironhelm either even though it helps with 1 shot chastise crusher BP

plush raptor
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I got like

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infested and specialist I think

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on an otherwise great hammer

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modifiers are all good

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got thrust and slaughterer on it

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I can change one of the perks

fading vale
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both of those perks sadly do nothing

plush raptor
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yeah

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this is why I'm considering deleting darktide right now

fading vale
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you might get some kind of use out of infested so I'd swap specialist

plush raptor
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hound and

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poxwalkers

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I think?

fading vale
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yep

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specialist just really doesn't matter

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even slightly

plush raptor
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I deal more damage to paper basically

fading vale
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slightly slightly improved horde clear I guess which is better than 0

plush raptor
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I suppose you're right

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I mainly wanna be using my flamer anyway

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and the relic ult

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I might swap the hammer out for an eviscerator

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I got a good one

fading vale
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I would say hammer does not go well with relic

plush raptor
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yea I figured

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how does dash ability work with chain weapons?

ivory marlin
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guys i got banned from sieg for an hour cuz the game crashed :(

plush raptor
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is it the entire chain duration or just the first tick?

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I assume the entire chain

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gets the crit and damage increase

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first tick would be a crazy oversight

fading vale
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this has gone unfixed since release

plush raptor
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fartshark

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dirtdite

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I'm going back to vermintide 1

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so what kinda loadout would go well with the relic ult then?

fading vale
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but you don't really need the buffs for anything other than cara so, and even then IIRC the 15 can one shot them without chastise and just a crit with cara perk

plush raptor
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I'm bringing the flame grenades

bitter anvil
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Holy immolation

plush raptor
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flamer+flame nades might be too much fire

bitter anvil
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The pyro

plush raptor
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I might wanna go for throwing knifes

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to deal with

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gunners and stuff

south folio
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hell yeah
CUTLERY

plush raptor
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why can you hold down all the grenades EXCEPT for the throwing knives

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whats going on here?

sturdy knoll
plush raptor
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man I'm getting cranky

south folio
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throwing knives are more of something in-the-moment so i can see why it's the way it is

plush raptor
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time to get off pc for a bit cyall later

south folio
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ciao

fading vale
# sturdy knoll how so?

you don't one shot crushers without either chastise or having about every buff possible up

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and you don't need cara to 1 shot them with chastise

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otherwise it's a 2 shot

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and just hit maulers in the flak parts

sturdy knoll
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what about Ironhelm?

fading vale
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carapace allows you to 1 shot crushers with ironhelm with chastise and no other buffs besides thrust

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but since ironhelm is more horde oriented you get more value from flak

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well that and ironhelm struggles with maulers

ripe quest
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Maulers vs. my SC Ironhelm when I hit the stagger BP on their fat tin head

hushed knoll
fading vale
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why are you threatening to cook me

ripe quest
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Bro is about to get cooked

south folio
hushed knoll
fading vale
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god dammit

hushed knoll
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This is a good think Laz

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Youโ€™re my I ruin

fading vale
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why do you do this to me

hushed knoll
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Inspiration

fading vale
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this is the second time I've been sir fry

hushed knoll
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I havenโ€™t done anything to you

royal vortex
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you're actually i ruin

hushed knoll
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Hi Josho blobwaver

royal vortex
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shalom

hushed knoll
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Make sure you set your clock forward so youโ€™re in the correct toe zone

royal vortex
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i will set it 2 hours behind to confuse my enemies

tropic harbor
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Hey guys, my car was an hour ahead but it magically fixed itself

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So Iโ€™m having a great day

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
tropic harbor
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It was an hour fast but now itโ€™s not

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Same thing happened last year

hushed knoll
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Youโ€™ve had your clock ahead this whole time?

hushed knoll
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CHAN

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@lusty turtle what does lugmd mean

lusty turtle
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its my lung

tropic harbor
shy river
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Actual zealot moment, ya think shred or momentum on an eviscerator works better for a martyr build?

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Other blessing is rampage

ripe quest
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On the Mk XV Shred would lead to better damage, some like Momentum as a second blessing. On the Mk II you'd rather just have Savage Sweep or Wrath.

shy river
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I'm doing the XV

worldly bramble
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XV evis is ๐Ÿ‘Œ

shy river
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Not focusing on crits otherwise for my marty build, that's why I'm asking mainly

worldly bramble
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Not gonna lie, I don't pay attention much to crits or other special effects. I just like the XV because the light attack is a super straightward horizontal horde cleaver while the heavy one-shots crushers because HAHA WHO'S THE ONE-SHOTTER NOW, BEEEEEYYYYYYYYYATCH!

polar nexus
ripe quest
median steeple
# polar nexus

im not gonna lie I had a stroke comprehending this and thought it was a history meme

polar nexus
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dartktide players not being lore connoisseurs smh

formal umbra
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BY MY INCOMPARABLE MIND

visual stream
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Helldivers 2 has made me so grateful that FatShark made the psykhanium

frosty herald
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yeah a firing range would be nice

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and would help people with skill issues

median steeple
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add it to mars

visual stream
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I can't imagine trying to test breakpoints to figure out what works on what SPECIFIC DIFFERENT PARTS of the same fucking limb and how they're affected differently, while in the middle of a match with other players

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(on DT)

calm salmon
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couldn't be me

visual stream
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I love autocannon

calm salmon
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clearly we're just supposed to fail upwards

visual stream
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I didn't even know you could disable the mfs arm

calm salmon
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yeah you can shoot them off

visual stream
calm salmon
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and nothing about the game lets you know that

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Now, I will say

visual stream
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I've seen them be exploded off before by airstrikes and such

calm salmon
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it does tell you, sorta kinda

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through the power of extrapolation

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cause you can remove limbs from the small bots

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then the berserkers

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then the devastators

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so, supposition and extrapolation should theoretically bring you to that point on hulks - but schools spend 12 years teaching this ability to people with strict curriculums and most don't get it so I dunno

fleet zealot
north sedge
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you are meat for the grinder, you're literally a new soldier everytime you die

fading vale
visual stream
fading vale
#

yeah that's basically it, if you shoot the back of leg efter dodging them it's a 2 shot

visual stream
#

Learning that made me feel like a god against the bugs

fading vale
#

yeah

median steeple
fading vale
#

when I first used it I was like wow this does nothing to chargers

visual stream
#

At least until the bile titan no diffs my orbital railcannon ๐Ÿ˜จ

fading vale
#

I just 500 titans mostly

#

assuming I bring a 500

visual stream
#

I carry both, it's nice to have two "fuck the big thing" buttons, make it 3 with the final eagle upgrade

#

Can be nice for automaton side objectives too like detector tower so I don't have to actually engage it

fading vale
#

eagle airstrike and 500 are just kind of too relatively good with the upgrades, the upgrades are so strong

#

I always want to bring them

#

but I've been fucking around with mines lol

visual stream
#

Fighting for my life pre more use upgrade, they're fighting for theirs post more use upgrade

#

Speaking of stratagems

#

I hope they make more effects that do something other than fuck with stratagems

#

Snooze

#

Gimme an all charger or all heavy devastator lobby

fading vale
#

I agree, the modifiers are pretty snooze

#

like earlier having 150% increased call in time

#

checking my watch waiting for something to drop down

visual stream
#

Pretty much all of the automaton effects feelsbadman LOL

#

ESPECIALLY one less stratagem

fading vale
#

and the increased cooldown it's like

#

just not fun

visual stream
#

Only changing number is like baby's first game design choice

shy river
#

complex strategem plotting I hate you

#

ruining all my 500kg bomb bile kills

fading vale
#

right

vast basin
#

atleast it looks like they removed scrambled strats

fading vale
#

oh earlier I saw a video with devs, you know the fire tornados? they are gonna be an effect

shy river
#

I just want them to please sooner rather than later add a fire trooper armor that greatly reduces or nullifies fire damage so I can fully embrace the flames with reckless abandon

#

we got one that reduces explosive damage already

ripe quest
#

Just waiting on a planet that actually has them.

visual stream
#

I was excited when I saw "ion storms" as a planet effect, because like every other planet effect is interesting

fading vale
#

I can't wait to be sucked up into a fiery tornado

visual stream
#

MAANNNN

ripe quest
#

It's fairly disruptive which is kinda interesting.

fading vale
#

I wanna be struck by lightning

visual stream
ripe quest
#

Had a couple moments w/ massive amounts of bots showing up and my stratagems turn off w/ my inventory at a nice 0% everything

visual stream
#

Oh god have you guys seen the smoke plant reposition tech yet

ripe quest
#

would be funny if the lightning struck anything that was large enough, ie most support weapons and mechs

fading vale
#

like an electric storm cloud moving across the field would be cool

hushed knoll
#

Exhillious hi blobwaver

#

Hi Laz

ripe quest
#

w/ the mech only like stunning it obv

hushed knoll
fading vale
#

hi stan

fading vale
visual stream
#

I am addicted to flinging myself with those plants

ripe quest
#

I am free from the curse

hushed knoll
#

Laz do you need help

fading vale
#

stan read the conversation

#

we are talking about the ion storm

hushed knoll
#

TL:DR

fading vale
#

effect

visual stream
#

I thought you meant irl Sitgryn

hushed knoll
#

Same feelsbadman

#

Exhillious how did the name exhillious come to be anyhow

fading vale
#

I mean that wouldn't be so bad but in this case I'm talking helldivers

ripe quest
# fleet zealot Yep

It's funny that we got an explosive weapon that only will struggle against Bile Titans and it has 60 shots with a fairly forgiving reload w/ the 5 per clip but then people cry over Railgun getting a smack on the wrist

visual stream
#

Listening to rock while playing against bots is prime gaming activities

ripe quest
hushed knoll
#

What does pokemon go have to do with Holary Clintom

#

Clinton

#

Hilary

ripe quest
#

It's also perfectly unique so I just kept it all these years

south folio
#

holary clintom

hushed knoll
#

Arco ๐Ÿ˜ 

ripe quest
hushed knoll
#

I see sus

#

Did you ever break into a police station to catch a weevil

#

Or whatever that bug pokemon is

#

Wheedle

#

Welding

#

Weedle

north sedge
#

weezer

hushed knoll
#

Hi Doris blobwaver

safe tusk
#

Weevil

ripe quest
#

I actually at one point asked to enter a fire department so I could catch an Arcanine.

visual stream
#

This seems as good a time as any to finally ask why stan's name is spider toe

ripe quest
#

yes

ripe quest
#

Stan that's a tarantula

hushed knoll
#

I stan them

hushed knoll
#

Tarantulas are basically like spiders

hushed knoll
#

Like a tomato is basically a vegetable

north sedge
#

what

ripe quest
#

I mean kinda but like not really

hushed knoll
north sedge
#

i dunno you fucking said it

visual stream
#

Tarantula hawks are neither tarantulas, nor hawks

hushed knoll
#

They are weapons

#

Wasps

safe tusk
visual stream
#

Were they also the ones that plant eggs in their prey Alien style or is that the emerald wasp or something

hushed knoll
#

WAIT VANESSA IT'S YOU

ripe quest
hushed knoll
#

Do

visual stream
safe tusk
hushed knoll
#

Most solitary wasps put eggs in their prey

hushed knoll
visual stream
#

There's a different one (or same, forgot) that mind controls cockroaches to find somewhere safe to die so that their (also Alien style) eggs can hatch and eat their way out

hushed knoll
#

Not

hushed knoll
worldly nebula
#

No itโ€™s true, you die every time you fall unconscious. Itโ€™s just that sometimes a new identity wakes up some time later

#

So โ€œyouโ€ never sleep

hushed knoll
fair igloo
fleet zealot
#

correction

#

i replied to the wrong person

#

sorry for the time

ripe quest
fleet zealot
visual stream
#

If the new you walks, talks, acts like, and believes it is the old you, is it that much different though?

polar nexus
#

exhil, give me meme weapons and a build to test / use

median steeple
#

I cant look at that emperor gif without hearing the TTS theme

ivory marlin
oak nymph
#

crit tank/refund on relic is fun as hell. I don't know why I never tried this before

tropic pelican
# north sedge

very impressive that spider toes was spelt so horrifically wrong twice

zinc monolith
#

Tell me Zealots, do you like other Zealots?

north sedge
#

stan is man made of typos

ripe quest
#

Your goal: Max bleed numbers. Outpace bleed knife. Go beyond.

polar nexus
#

OK

fresh sentinel
fresh sentinel
#

ive basically only used left side zealot

polar nexus
#

yeah i can see you went for a gunslinger vibe

#

but handcannon would be better than speedload

fresh sentinel
#

i was thinking that too when i was looking at blessings but speedloader is what i got for the moment

polar nexus
#

ok

#

the immonade is fine but it's way better with chastise

#

you're loosing too much point going that route

#

not using knives atm cause i want epic mouse buttons for those. > i put knives on q

#

i snipe snipers

fresh sentinel
#

Q is already in use or i would

#

i don't really have a key that's super comfy that isn't already in use

polar nexus
#

E?

#

caps?

fresh sentinel
#

ill unbind e from interact when i'm dead

polar nexus
#

what do you use to ping?

fresh sentinel
#

middle mouse

polar nexus
#

you could put ping on rmb

#

it works well

fresh sentinel
#

i suppose that's a better suggestion than lmb ping

polar nexus
#

this what i would do

#

speed attack on knife is not really needed

#

and disdain is whatever

#

duellist works on range and melee talent and is one of the the perk availaible to zealot

safe tusk
#

I personally don't really care for the bonus damage on Shroudfield with Knife

polar nexus
#

yeah i would go for a longer shroudfield

safe tusk
#

Yeah, it very rarely saves anything

fresh sentinel
#

i just put that on because i was told that longer shroudfield doesnt extend the duration of the damage buffs like it does in vermintide so i immediately lost interest

polar nexus
#

you use longer shroudfield to do objectives safely

#

help a revive

#

any reason why you want to go middle tree?

#

because going right is better tbh

fresh sentinel
#

i don't like loner is pretty much the reason

#

ig it might be more useful for more talent points

polar nexus
#

we don't chose loner because we like it

#

i would do that

junior vortex
#

It's just better on Veteran

inner cargo
fresh sentinel
tranquil edge
#

what other blessing?

fading vale
#

uh, change everything

#

uncanny is the required blessing

#

flesh tearer is only kind of ok with uncanny

#

but, two dead perks

fleet zealot
polar nexus
fleet zealot
#

also -17% finesse is a lot on the knife

#

bascially knife wants to dump mobility to it's dodge breakpoint and can lose a bit of pen cause uncanny strike exists

polar nexus
#

There's no dodge BP on a knife

#

It's still 5....

formal umbra
#

I'm so mad that node even exists, so many builds id want to do with more of the things on that node but I never want to use them because loner is such hot dogass

radiant nacelle
#

Thoughts on fire grenade vs improved stun grenade? Does fire do basically the same thing, just not as big a radius? It says it "bars their path"... if I'm using stun grenades to help pause the action for a one second breather, does fire grenade sort of do the same thing?

quasi marsh
#

Fire doesn't really stagger a lot

#

Stun straight up stuns everything, even the bigger guys that fire won't stagger

coarse dagger
#

Fire is good for whittling down hordes but big things will still walk through it unfazed. Stun indeed gives everything pause. Very useful against things like maulers I've found, or to give your team time to regain their strength and clean out the room of things like snipers if need be

quasi marsh
#

Fire comes off as pretty underwhelming to me but idk if that's a common sentiment

coarse dagger
#

Fire is best to keep a path clear as long as nothing big and beefy comes along to fight you in it

#

Depends on what you prefer or need imo

fair igloo
#

Fire's biggest thing is that it applies all self buffs to yourself and all debuffs on enemies per tick of fire

#

Even against cara hodes it can be huge

quasi marsh
#

Uncanny knife + fire pogryn

radiant nacelle
south folio
#

fire is p good cuz it'll just kill anything inside it as long as it's sitting inside

fading vale
#

Fire nades are for killing lots of elites

south folio
#

throw it into a bulwark/mauler/rager deathball, keep em inside, and they die

fading vale
#

they are very good

coarse dagger
#

very fun to burn things

fading vale
#

what arcUwU said

south folio
#

you'er a bitch

zinc talon
fading vale
#

you're a binch

south folio
#

ok sir fry

coarse dagger
#

you're so cool it makes you look good

radiant nacelle
#

I much prefer stun I think but if I go fire I can get an extra talent I really want to use that I can't if I go stun lol

fading vale
#

yeah fire nades strength is mitigated by needing a lot of points

zinc talon
#

BOFE A YUS GO KIL AN ERETIK N STOP TRYNA EACH UVER

#

ONLY WUN GETS TA KILL LOYILS IS ME

coarse dagger
#

You look so good.

obsidian prairie
#

Does anyone have a fun Kantrael Flechettes build lying around or will I need ot scrounge through Gameslantern for one?

fair igloo
fading vale
radiant nacelle
fading vale
#

you get the 2 things that give you crit chance plus flechette and that's it

obsidian prairie
#

Oh neat

#

Whats a good melee weapon to go with it

#

Something with good single target I imagine?

fading vale
#

FWIW flechette only hits the first target per pellet

#

not every cleave target on the special

quasi marsh
#

It hits the first 3 now

#

They buffed it last patch

fading vale
#

ah hadn't seen that

quasi marsh
#

Still not worth though imo

#

I tried it on vet

#

Felt like killing with extra steps

#

You can get it to do true infinite cleave flechette with manstopper but then you lose scattershot

fading vale
#

yeah shotgun crit blessings without scattershot are kind of dead

ripe quest
fading vale
#

it's mostly just a funny thing to stack with special

#

solely for special spam

ripe quest
fading vale
#

you can really pair a kant with any weapon

#

kant does everything

quasi marsh
#

If someone wanted to see

#

Idk if it's actually 3 cleave but it stops when the bullet stops cleaving

#

The fire will keep going but won't proc bleed

#

Unless you have manstopper

#

Makes it less of a meme to try with scattershot either way ig but it still felt really underwhelming

obsidian prairie
#

So would it be better to run a Kantrael with different blessings or a lawbringer with flechette and scattershot

little thicket
#

Kant

#

Kant even does the flechette, scattershot gimmick better.

#

It has higher penetration on ADS compared to lawbringer.

fading vale
#

lawbringer will bleed everything you hit on special

little thicket
#

Can hit multiple enemies.

fading vale
#

but it won't pen bulwarks

#

it's just hard to recommend flechette unless you are trying to mess around

obsidian prairie
#

Alright, then what would I run on a Kant, scattershot and what else

fading vale
#

kant has low finesse scaling so no scattershot

#

you always want no respite

#

and then pick from full bore, deathspitter, or fire frenzy

#

I prefer fire frenzy but any of them should be ok

little thicket
fleet zealot
fleet zealot
little thicket
#

This is how the falloff on the kantrael works.

fading vale
#

oh shit I forgot about halo season 2

#

how bad is it

zealous basin
#

i love him :3

fading vale
#

day 400 of this joke

polar nexus
fleet zealot
#

Benediction is huge

#

Especially if you or someone else is running a toughness active ability

north sedge
#

corruption aura is nice in twins fight but generally kinda whatever elsewhere

fleet zealot
#

The corruption one is pretty meh and loner shouldnt exist

#

Meh outside of specific games

#

Like if grim runs were viable and twins fight

#

It is good

misty ravine
#

Will Fatshark ever acknowledge the awful risk:reward on grims in this game

north sedge
#

I'm just glad they're not 100% necessary to grab like vt2

formal umbra
#

I sure hope so lol

fleet zealot
#

They buffed book rewards pretty early on

#

Except then they buffed mission rewards a ton and left the reward for grims the same, basically giving us the launch ratio

north sedge
#

Not enough though really

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
olive raven
fleet zealot
#

Mot doris

north sedge
#

Many times

olive raven
#

christ

fleet zealot
#

Stan needs to fuck up my name

olive raven
#

@hushed knoll how do you still fumble words this bad

north sedge
#

He named me Doris, then said "you're mot doris"

#

Double name win

frozen glen
#

wow leux after disappearing for 3 years

polar nexus
zinc talon
#

Chargers in the train yard finale

polar nexus
#

leux

#

LEUX

#

YOU ARE BACK

zinc talon
#

Back not here again ha gotem

north sedge
south folio
#

mfing mk4 chainsword chains into the diagonal heavy from the push instead of the horizontal

north sedge
#

Throw it out

south folio
#

weapon is unplayable ๐Ÿ˜”

north sedge
#

True

#

Much like Paul, or mk15 evisc

south folio
#

broken

#

it does peeve me slightly since i have to do a heavy afterwards to continue the hordeclear pattern instead of it being the horizontal heavy, where i can have the choice of doing a light which will be horizontal as well

zinc talon
#

Paul can be rigged up just fine its just the world isn't ready to have that conversation yet

fresh sentinel
#

so are knives really just that straightforward? i've been testing out right tree zealot and ive just kinda been using them as extra clip size for my stub

polar nexus
#

that's the way

south folio
#

holy shit the 13g chainsword's l2, the uppercut, has a better first target damage than the other two sweeping lights
@lusty turtle WOOOOOOOOO

polar nexus
#

it helps with ammo economy

south folio
#

yeah it fills a similar role to the revolver for sniping stuff and is p nice

zinc talon
safe tusk
#

I just take the knife

zinc talon
safe tusk
#

And forget to use it

fresh sentinel
#

my zealot's lore is that he belongs to a little known cult called khorne's kowboys

safe tusk
#

Same with stun grenades tbf

south folio
#

i always run flamer/bolter with tknives so i can't quite forget to use them

fresh sentinel
#

there is no need to be concerned commisar

#

blood for the emperor as they say in the imperium

zinc talon
#

OH YOUS TH WUNS YELLIN ABOUT SKULS DAT SAHJ IS LYK 'EH CLOSE ENUFF'

inner cargo
polar nexus
#

skulls for the golden throne

drowsy steppe
#

What is this foreign language being spoken here

zinc talon
#

WOT

#

STUP USIN DEM LONGGUNS FRUM TH TERLIT PAYPR COVVURD IN HEADACHE SQUIGGLES

#

TOO MENY

zinc talon
#

TH TERLIT PAYPR WE GIT PAYD EXTRUH FER LUGGIN BACK WITOUT USIN ON TH WEY

#

RIPCHAS N GRIMMAS

#

WOTS GOT HEADACHE SQUIGGLS

inner cargo
#

Where's my comfort lasgun I don't understand anything he says

zinc talon
#

DONT NEED WERDS TA TAYKUM MAYSE N HIDDUM FASE

#

NUMBAS EIDDUR

#

ONLY NUMBA AH NEEDS FOUR TH EMPRA

inner cargo
#

That's some karking nonsense if I ever seen one

zinc talon
south folio
#

OwO

#

wait wtf

polar nexus
#

yes

#

WTF

zinc talon
#

I don't

#

nope, nothin

#

whatever thems dumb and stupid, they all have a crippling lack of chainsaw

south folio
#

oh it's prob because it's crit bodyshot and the body being flak

zinc talon
#

boggled my mind to find out they're ALL like that

#

not just the one I saw

polar nexus
#

the head is not flak?

zinc talon
#

for one of the two, yes

south folio
#

is unarmoured

zinc talon
#

the other's

polar nexus
#

it's not carapace

#

so let's recap

#

you do less dmg hitting a head without helmet than a body with armor

zinc talon
#

we gotta work on your timing, man

polar nexus
#

on a crit

south folio
#

yep

zinc talon
south folio
#

unarmoured L

zinc talon
#

but, 380

#

eh nowhere near 550 even in theory

#

good, didn't want a poop shovel stinking up gear mountain anyway

south folio
#

also rashad has a higher crit multiplier against flak

#

why did fatshark make a lot of weapons have a higher crit multi against flak

polar nexus
# south folio yep

that's... why the fuck do i need to run maniac on a rashad, might was well use unarmored, carapace or unyielding

zinc talon
#

because flak is essentially a nylon jacket with strips of velcro inside it

#

it does nothing to stop actual bullets and instead pads against explosive compression and shrapnel at super high speed

#

a service issue heli pilot flak jacket struggles to even stop a 9mm or .38

#

so games that bother to even do that surfacel evel research all go 'huh ok so BIG damage on BIG hit'

polar nexus
#

well, that's the idea behind a five seven

#

armor? no such thing

wind pier
#

is knife better H1 cancel H1 cancel H1 or just spam light attacks for horde

zinc talon
#

heh those do that same thing to even kevlar

#

only plates really stand a chance and even then not really ceramics

#

the 'ablative' ones

#

cuz it powders em first contact like say a 3006 would

#

just less kinetic mass for hydrostatic sho-I'll shut up

#

I think the blunt weapons I use (slab/crusher) take a damage cut from flak specifically

#

cuz when they're not actively helping a chainsaw cut faster, they blow up real quick fluffy pillow like for just. my. swings.

south folio
#

would be a shame if there existed a class of melee weapons with no crit dmg falloff beyond the first target hit

#

(chainswords)

zinc talon
#

each one is slightly fluffier than the last

polar nexus
#

no wonder it has escaped our attention for months

south folio
#

yeah i only know about it cuz of exhillious

zinc talon
#

unless of course you're punching and exploding same time, which flak armor was developed for

#

concussive/shrapnel

south folio
#

flak L ๐Ÿ˜”

ember yew
#

time for melk daily check

zinc talon
#

unless you punch them softly, which obviously unless you punch them I CANT ACCEPT THE REALITY OF THIS

#

gonna fly to sweden

#

find the closest person on the live team

#

and step on their foot real hard

#

for legal purposes this is a joke, and a poor one, I am already banned from international flights

polar nexus
#

yeah

#

ffs

#

crit unarmored is worse than crit flak

#

ffs

zinc talon
drowsy steppe
#

well too bad, youre on the CIA hitlist now

zinc talon
#

because I'm so cute right

#

because they want to hit that

#

right

polar nexus
#

hit dat

zinc talon
#

question is, do I blast Free Bird naked on the roof cuz that song always makes everyone's armpits spicy in a negotiation situation

#

or let the bodies hit th I am stopping this conversation voluntarily of my own free will

#

best part about this setup even if it took em a year or more to cycle in a set of pants that fit the look

#

is the fresh ink I just got at Apothejerry's isn't covered up, at all

#

well last word I guess

#

so I matched it front to back so everyone wouldn't be left wonderingh

median steeple
#

gyad I love losing connection

zinc talon
#

the love we share

#

ok for every mutant I miss with Cousin Rockri on this next mutant wave mission, I'm going to take a shot then and there

#

and for every mutant I hit, I'm taking two

median steeple
#

may god emperor rest your soul

#

amazing never change dt

median steeple
#

Lmao wtf

fair igloo
#

the warp is leaking into the game

ripe quest
#

Crits ignoring armor is cool n all but a good number of weapons w/ rending surpass Unarmored which shouldn't be the case.

frozen glen
#

extremely toxic callouts

ember yew
#

how do they plan their damage formulas

ripe quest
#

What's the point of intentionally making rend ignore infested and unarmored to signify what rending is doing and then forgetting that implication exists therefore ruining the immersion of the mechanic. Cannot believe Fatshark would come to my house and rip my heart out.

ripe quest
frozen glen
#

why would they do this

#

...............................

ripe quest
#

They just have the defaults w/ crits giving +0.3 to the ADM.

frozen glen
#

!!!!!

south folio
#

should've kept rending being multiplicative and then making sure that no ADM will ever surpass 100%

placid fiber
#

Welp, time to level this zealot that lazorr helped me name from something to do with Stan...

#

I definitely still think this is the right look, tho

nimble fiber
#

zealot is indeed very fun, I regret not playing it sooner ngl

zinc talon
#

we're getting closer

#

to the Locke 6d Phalanx Heavy Bolter being ready for next month

#

I am gonna start some ** shit **

#

^me disappearing into my lab to make more dead ringers for weapons people have been wanting the entire time