#zealot-class
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It can be situation based but if there's any meaningful enemy density it's better to just H1 L2.
You can quick play the twin boss fight but it take while to join
bc-ing removes a good amount of the startup on the H1. Some people struggle with that startup and think that the H1 is a bad move, so they maximize lights.
So either I got sent into one of those
or I was in a mutator match that spawns like 30 special dudes at a time
Could be elites
Never see constant stream of special
There’s only elite enemies
Are elites the maulers n shit?
Yes
and when I say bc I mean just tapping block to reset the combo, not a Push Attack.
it was like multiple elites at a time. Like, not even the standard. Like 30 maulers, ogryn type enemies n shit. Just a lot.
That’s what boss fight is
No boss bar tho. Tho I will say I didn't recognize the map
at all
it was like a new mission entirely
Okay then you encounter the patrol
Ok you're taking what I'm saying too literally.
I'm exaggerating
it was just
A LOT of elite spam
far more then normal Heresy
What on difficulty?
one of the new carnival maps?
... I know it spawned a lot of elites but I didn't know it spawned like an army of damn ogryn maulers
or whatever you call it
I thought that was damnation
Army is patrol
Patrol is common on malice to Damnation
That wipe my team in second
I walked into a room and found like 5 ogryn maulers out the gate.
with 5 or 6 more further in
There was no audio cue. None. Also it wasn't just ogryn maulers. It felt like the elite spawns were cranked up to 100. Which is why I think it's a mutator I didn't check
Well there is actually horde of scab enemies
Like scab bruiser with mauler and possible crusher
... Y'know what? I'm gonna drop the topic. Cause you're not understanding
ANYTHING I'm saying
so.
K
But yeah new mission I've never seen before on Heresy with an insane amount of elite spawns n shit.
A charger managed to clip me mid dodge and threw me into like 5 ragers 💀
There's a patrol that contains 6 crusheds
PAIN.
Spawns appear in fixed clusters, is just luck
well then we had the worst luck.
Yeap
because there was just constant elites and specials in every other room
that's why you always pack something anti armor
Once time our 3 psyker can’t handle the patrol of bulwark and crusher
I am. It's called a thunder hammer.
if it's carnival map 1 there is several phases you need to run
It didn't help when the rest of my team sucked tho
Only 1 veteran clutch (but tried) when 3 psyker died
Also each game has a fixed set of enemies I feel, like some games you don't get ragers, some only dreg, and some both dreg and scab
thunder hammer can't really handle multiple armor unless you have your mechanics down to T to animation cancel and know when and what to do exactly
but in heresy
im guessing a lot of players don't pick any anti armor at all in their kit
i'd just grab a rashad and go ham on crushers
Can you dodge multiple ogryn enemies?
yes
With rashad
dont panic dodge
and it's easy
since dodge distance basically doesn't matter against crushers
I find is hard to land the hit without getting aggro by group
their dodge catch is so short that it doesn't matter unless you're right up against them
Two crusher timing hit is unfortunately
the number one way to get killed quickly by a pack of crushers/maulers is to panic dodge
Like hammering
rashad has fairly short dodge intervals
even weird timings can be stopped
and zealot having a short consecutive dodge interval
by simply, timing your dodges out
it is a non-issue unless you just forget to press spacebar
Issue is I focus on enemy movement than try land a hit
don't bother playing reactively
just spam dodges
there's no point in playing reactively with a consecutive dodge cooldown this quick
im pretty sure there are a few clips of people doing no HP damage crusher pack solo kills
I could 1v1 ogryn but I can’t do multiple
Train in the psykanium
i would say this but I've seen a ton of players, maybe it's a zealot boost
and i'm judging off other classes
Use the creature spawner mod
but they just panic backwarsd dodge 5x
A vet last night solo it. He slide a lot
and then they keep dodging evne when their dodges are out
zealot and psyker have a marginally faster consecutive dodge cooldown than vet
and just get smacked
Get bulwark and two crusher is no fun
bulwarks are bullsht
yeah bulwarks are pretty peepee poopoo
honestly if it's a group of bulwarks just nade
if you picked throwing knife oh well
Bulwarks you can only bait their one swing, shield bash is stupid
i just hope i have chastise up to stagger them, and that there aren't more than 2
I solo against 2 bulwark as psyker BB goes fine
that's what you get for going throwing knife instead of big aoe grenade
lamo
LP
that's like
But then more of them come I didn’t last
the simplest way to counter them is psyker
cause shields aren't good at stopping magic
Finallly you call my name in short cut
they can only really stop assail from the front (not from the sides) and purge staff, from the front
Even assail you can do funky knives from beehind
shield wall does, but a lot of peolpe don't run shield wall over bubble
Repeatedly
Surge staff too
aim at where there head is behind the shield, and bam
surge staff is uhh
rough post bugfix
That was ages ago
Fuck that now
Man
I like it design wise now, but damn, it doesn't have much going for it compared to voidstrike
It's 4 whole darktide patches, I think dinosaurs were still around
even after void got nerfed
Can they stagger ogryn with surge full charge?
yes,
anything that isn't a monstro or a captain surge stuns
Like bulwark too?
but the main feature is the damage now
if there is a god, please help me
near perfect
def worth upgrading
praying you dont get bricked
surely they wouldnt let void do this too
Hadron uwu
I ran psyker recon last time with group
the problem with surge the only thing I can think of that it does over void strike, is that surge staff charges REALLY fast and it ramps up fast,
god isnt real
It was fucked when my team died to patrol ogryns
but voidstrike with nexus surge? it can stagger monsters
not even trauma can do that
it's
fine
recoverable
to a mid state
lacerate to uncanny strike
surge has the speed benefit and its not a projectile but thats mostly it
block efficiency
It's alot more agile but you tradeoff alot of power
not nearly what im lookin for unfortunately
to any 25% damage stat
i got a better knife
death by a thousand cuts
ok well i got this immediately after i just need plasteel again lmao
thats a thousand/enemy
mobility is starting to get kinda low
you wont be able to rush ahead, die and complain so effectively
Is Thy Wrath be Swift needed?
Depends
Faster weapons can go without it but it is up to preference
For chain weapons and thunderhammer it is a must
And also it is jsut really useful but it isnt a need unless you are running one of the above listed
U mean leave your team completely behind, wait for them to die and then run the horde around in a circle for 20 minutes waiting for shroud to come off cd so u can kill a single bulwark each time >:D
nah the zealots in my team pretty much always just die
oh that's fair
boutta pick all this up for 20 buck
rich
bugstick
Good hammer or nah? (got it as a mission reward)
great hammer i think
idk if thammer is one of the weapons w/ a defences dodge number breakpoint tho
I also have this, but i am like 90% sure that penetration isn't a dump stat
ya the first one is way better
menace
yeah idk i was feeling chaotic im sorry
warframe mentioned
hype
would boltgun good to be paired with heavy sword? to handle the armored enemies
also what's the max tier for scattershot?
Yes, probably
4
me when im a little doll getting blown up by faulty wiring
how is it like being a little doll?


How important would cleave targets be on a mk2 heavy evis
It’s probably the second least important modifier
(Mobility would arguably be the first)
Say 13%
What are the cleave values listed for 13% ?
1.12 on light 6.15 on heavy
I’d say, as long as you can hit 2 bruisers with heavy 2/sweeping light attacks, it’s good enough
(And the values you shared do seem to follow that idea, except that the cleave value for lights is only listed for the overhead light attacks, for some reason)
guys what should i name my stardew farm?
Beechnut Farms
(The credit goes to random fantasy farm name generator, I swear)
thats way better then what i was gonna do
i was just gonna go with balls
emily romance speed run
Super Earth
real

live jonkler reaction
god finally im getting some TOUGHNESS
anybody can share the mk15 eviscerator one kill tree with using Fury of the Faithful?
Jale’s Farm Farm
Stickbugs can’t dance



wdym by one kill
sounds like you are just looking for a standard zealot build
One hit kill I presume?
means high powered build
precisly
yeah you don't need to do anything special
Just rev up, heavy attack something, and then hit Fury once you've already connected the blade iirc?
it makes the Fury apply to the monstrous final tick instead of to the wimpy initial hit
you could do something like this, or run marty, swap desperation, could grab disdain - could use throwing knives or stuns instead
oh that's slightly older, I take backstab CDR over swift and momentum dodge over attack speed
but you get more points if you go stuns or throwing knives
well more points for later
but you definitely want second wind or vicious
also depends if you want to do a crit build
but I would do what I suggested with uh, rampage and bloodthirsty (for chained crusher 1 shots)
cause one shotting crushers is about as 1 shot as it gets
devs dropped the game or i am trippin' ?
did you miss the "big" patch recently
recently like october 2023 ?
uh like last week
Go to general i think they're talking about it rn
He means content
General chat is full of such dipshits
lmao
Youre in a 40k discord server dont act like you expect better of us
I have no expectations other than for people to be reasonable
at least they improved the sound issues in the last patch
kek
Did they? Thought the only thing they added sound wise was a new trapper sound for when they get knocked out of there charge
they improved some sound priority and fixed a bug with trappers not playing sounds IIRC
silent specials are still a thing so
probably won't stop complaining
they didn't fix the engine and map issues
the one change that i like the most is the new powersword changes
l1 activation into h1 is a completely new attack
surely the game receiving patches and the CMs saying content is coming is a sign the game is dead 
ye still some work needed but def a lot better
can you just delete general chat
im not tripping but catfish said we are going to get an update and the patch isnt what she meant
Hey quick question is flamer any good as zealot I wanna switch off the bolter for a change
very good
it's not as though we've had a period without updates before
flamer is very good yes
i guess new players who haven't gone through it
Flamer is decent
They tried that once before with memes
flamer is p good though you might find it boring to use
give it a try
I've always used the bolter when I see undesirables running up
though I wouldn't use flamer unless you have chastise
running throwing knives also help
hmmmm tempting
Do it. Destroy the server do it
yeah my bad, i through #🚨service-updates was for updates
what a fool
theres literally a january patch in there what are you wafflin 
does HD2 discord still have multiple general chats
I've been using the stun grenade to get the penance done so I never have to use them
people are just not accustomed to Fatshark pace
like 1 major patch every 6 months or something
rn we are 3 months without content update
or some big balance fixes
1-3 more to go

Mf we just got a patch with fixes
if we're lucky 
honestly probably not 6 months this time
think they were just busy with VS for vt
major ones and not some demonhost now kills 1 less people
maybe we can unlock the new content with a cool arbitrary community event that they don't automate
it wasn't even automated it was just easy af
The daemonhost change is stoopid
people couldn't math
What daemon host change
no I mean that when it was "unlocked" they had to give us the content by hand
i didnt pay attention to it, is it good? what's feedback on it
since the beta started feb 8
oh ye the fucking backend stuff was still a mess
DH now only kills the person who agro'ed him
im the wrong person to ask, i think VS is wasted dev time
Good riddance
what is VS
yeah, it's too late
versus for vermintide 2
they announced it in 2019
play as the skaven
oh
no i dont even mean to late
now its 2024 and the initial VT2 charm weared offf
god why
it wont come
i think its a useless game mode

they want VT2 for Dead
you need a better bit taboo
Vermintide for Dead
VT4D
Honestly i prefer that over the numbnuts who trigger 2 daemonhosts during the same mission and get teammates killed
dt2 
thats a pipe dream for in like 10 years
when FS eventually maybe stop updating w/e they do after darktide
we still have like 2 years before DT1 becomes full DT1
god how have we got 6 years of vermintide 2 content
they did it for vermintide and before it was also the case for left for dead, i remember the community in fire because they released l4d2 like what ? 1 or 2 years after ?
Is vermintide 2 still active I wanted to pick it up but didn't know if it's still playable
Very active
idk now but in 2023 it was sometimes more active than darktide
Is ot cross play? Or since I'm on xbox I'll be stuck with xbox players?
i dont know, i 've rejected console since 2005
no cross play
its P2P instead of dedicated
hey, a good take from you
my last xbox litteraly killed all my games + red circle of death
I don't like that sound of that
I tried VT2 after playing DT and it just made me sad it wasn't DT
swings and round abouts, the p2p is generally more stable and will swap hosts if the host crashes or disconnects
dedicated is more stable for people in the middle of nowhere and has cross play
but ye DT overall is a much cleaner product gameplay wise
i cannot stand the sliding or balance in VT anymore makes me sad
tbh vt2 suffered a long phase of little to no content until chaos waste came
- numerous premium skins etc
Wait p2p isn't pay to play?
peer to peer
Yes qnd u can customise the bots loadouts
God that sounds almost enjoyable
it is
Its less they are less dumb and more the classes are more powerful so even the bots can clear up to champion
they wont carry you in max difficulty but they definitely add some value
instead of being naked vets level 1 with 0 utility
i mean cataclysm ( max difficulty ) true solo versus solo ( with bots ) is a difficulty gap
God lvl 1 vet bots are terrible but can come in clutch sometimes
Why cant we get a random bot like in the tutorial like I want an orgyn bot
if you think useless lvl 1 bots can clutch then imagine max leveled + meta build + using ult can be
Hey having abot revive a player near the middle of a run surrounded by fire is sweet now having one woth actual skills would be amazing
i bet if they implement that in darktide, bots should be more useful than shieldgryns players
Im a shirldgryn
Is the spawn broken?
problem is reviving mate is a top priority in their script , no matter dire the situation is, so he will try to revive and fail in a loop until he die
Was there an update to reviving? It seems that all attacks bounce off an invisible shield whenever I revive now
Ulgo try zealot... but lore accurate zealot... Ulgo ashamed that Ulgo enjoyed
Zealots are quite enjoyable not to dissimilar to orgyn quite tough
Im currently experimenting a stealth zealot with flamer
Interesting. Stealth could allow you to fairly easily position yourself with flamer which can be difficult sometimes
Sounds like it could be good. Never thought of it
Not having fury with flamer hurts though
Never used flamer with fury
Just bring a melee that can deal with crushers
I use middle ability with my flamer
Flamer getting the armour reduction from fury is stupid and i refuse to use it
Max cc
I think i had knife with uncanny
Ulgo knows... Ulgo love ogryn but enjoyed being last one alive shouting FOR THE GOD-EMPEROR"
I just use the base skill aim for their head and light them up
Fat zealot
That's always such a nice feeling! Especially when there's a hard between you and your team shout and shread
Agreed. Is when Ulgo only... TIS BE WHEN. I. FATHER VICTOR CLAIM THE HERETICS SOUL. IN THE NAME OF THE HOLY GOD EMPEROT


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I mean, stickbugs dancing is a genetic survival instinct isn't it? Like, that's what they do to deceive predators
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Notizen zerstören die Umwelt 
notizen helfen die welt in ordnung zu bringen 


General chat worst than zealot chat... sad day. But zealot chat not always bad

gen chat just a bunch of pearl clutchers

What thar mrans?
Most of time
huh
it's an old meme about people feeling like they deserve something
stan this is a new low 
a prior CM said it
Ulgo hate it here. Is why other dislike shouty's... some good yes but others weird
there is only one rule in zealot chat... excellent Steve
Why is this bad
WHY IS HE SO REGAL
You need different meds.
steve so cute
skeleton divine death blast
I've had so many people ignore downed teammates when using the relic stun to give an opening

What
u said regal/shelv
yes u regal
Anngak I’m legit going to dip you in slightly acidic spring water
because?
stan likes the taste of anngak dipped in slightly acidic spring water?
No it will exfoliate his skin
shlerp
You can’t shlerp
arco just did tho
He can’t
he just did tho
shlerp
who are u to decide what can and cant stan?
I say stickbugs can in fact dance

Am I the only zealot that gets lost in the sauce of killing hords?
BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR, SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE
I sent a video of me being lost in the sauce a little ways away from evac
I'm v. Melee focused zealot
It’s really fun as a Zealot Main I embrace my hoard clearing with lots of zeal. Lol
It's so nice! And fun! Feeling like nothing can stop you
So looking at my own video I was sitting at 2 hp and lost in the sauce
My favorite weapon for hoard clearing is an evicserator or the indignatus crusher maul.
Tigris heavy eviscerator
I have extra cleave on mine so it's even better hord clearer
Ye the mark 2 specifically but the mark 15 is great because it has the side to side swipe with the light attacks
Think the Cadia Assault Chainsword IV is meant to be good too
I like using the chainsword for my veterans
But it just lacks the cleave the tigris or the indignatus have
I always run the skill that gives you immortality for like 10 sec
Chainsword actually has higher horde clear
Tigris with 150% cleave upon hitting 3 targets is nice

What's the best chainsword mk for the zealot, new or old one? Or it doesn't really matter?
whichever you prefer
tes
the elder scrolls 
No
tes
Personally I'm more into crowd control on melee weapons
killing crowd control
the egg shaker
The biggest difference will boil down to how you like to handle hoards. The mark 15 has a lower light attack compared to the mark 2, but the mark 15 light attack features two horizontal swings which really helps with crowd control. The mark 2 cuts on two diagonals and an overhead so I need a touch of a adjustment, both are great dedicated hoard clearers.
Hes asking about chainsword
ye chord instead of evis
Not eviscerator
Mb lol
Well now you know regardless
But i agree with ohio either one is fine
so sad
people will only know him as ohio now
hi truck u
HELO
suddenly, i feel the urge to kill
halo
mittins will die
Hanlo
henlo
han solo san holo?
terrible people
Hanoi
SOLO A STARWARS SAGA??????

Yeah, I meant chains instead evisc, but that' a good explanation I will pass to my buddy so good enough lol
hola
DOUGH HI I MISSED YOU
Why are you yellingv
why are u yelling
I can’t believe you tried to hit dough
Good thing u missed him
Heug
I won't miss you
stan whats your favorite helldivers 2 gun
Dough's calmness needs to be bottle and sold
I’m in danger
Breaker
ew

stan what is your favorite bread?
@north sedge
I really like the helbore 3 against the chargers
When I was a kid I used to take slices of potato bread, smush them into a ball with my fist, and then eat them
mods on the name changing game
I remember doing that while decorating a christmas tree
i cant believe you'd pick the most GENERIC loadout
What do you use
did the bread hurt u stan?
No
i use the dominator and autocannon
I just like the thickness
please do NOT bottle chat members
We keep getting murdered in broad daylight
this has been a recurring issue
I don't like the dom
how about putting them in a jar
u like the sub
no!
little baby boi
I am bottling his calmness that can be sprayed on the wrists to lower anxiety
I am not bottling him himself
how do you plan on extracting his calmness
release mittins
noh
Juicer
Turning dough into a fine mist 
bless u
DOUGH NOOOOOOO
do not juice dough
there shouldn't be any juice in the dough
Have you never heard of a printing press?
its stan cooking
right I forgot

Zealot chat hands down most chaotic
Bread printer 
why would the zealots do this
I’m not putting dubious into skyline
this is so sad
Dough into anything*
THESE PRETZELS ARE MAKING ME GO WOOOO
Whats your favorite gun fellow zealots? The Graia is my personal go to for an assault rifle. Its very accurate at range.
mk3 headhunter
STAN LEAVE THE PRETZELS ALONE
That one is really good.
Agri brauto my beloved
Zarona <3
@north sedge your now is slightly more elligable now
its still not correct but its an improvement 
Dubious being put into the skyline 
Columnus braced
very stable, big mag
and lots of suppression
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what was your fate again? or did he not mention it yet?
Not mentioned
kant shotgun is the best gun in the game
zarona is very based
unbiased
clearly
you've been running kant rashad for basically the entire time haven't you
Kant is so hot rn
Bolter makes me feel powerful
incan, blow up
i used mk6 knife and crusher up until recently
crusher gaming
My paper for my ethics class was entirely based on shitting on Kant
Good times
how can u slander the smartest and most based philosopher
warranted tbh
you're european
Australian is different
hello european Im asraval
I don’t burn the moment it’s above 15C
ok what about 100c
kantians when they have to lie to the murderer to save someone’s life (it’s not ethically right)
That might be a bit hot for me
100c is baby mode tho
if i put you into an oven set at 400 fahrenheit, how well would you do
arco u own a candy house or something?
Don’t give Stan ideas
no i'm thinking of making people into lasagna
arco do u know any other dish u can threaten people with
no
are u some sort of overweight orange cat
yall ever think how the earth is just one really big spherical lasagna
arco is actually garfield in disguise
Bitch lasagna
arco your a
WOW
Wowee
i will be the maker of the lasagna, not the lasagna
do u even know how to make lasagna
no
wow
wowowow
The lasagner has become the lasagnee
OwO

@south folio fuc u
You’ve been lasagna’d. lasagna someone else to be un-lasagna’d
@south folio
hewwo
u suck
thank u
I will be lasagna for your sins
i also hate u
actually been ages since I last ate lasagna
i eat it a fair amount as one of those prepackaged meals you can just microwave
valid
definitely not because of those 20 people u turned into lasagna

dudes like Sweeney Todd but makes lasagna instead
leave
must not be a very good jar

he will be jarred once again
something along the lines of calling me a silly goose
and then the parasites that lurk clung onto that calling
and invented a fantastical rumor about how i'm actually a goose or duck
aaah now I remember thanks 4 reminding
i hope you are forever burdened with guilt
I will definitely play the untitled goose game again because of this
does this help?
no
i am unrelated to goose
sad
its actually quite a fun game
Reaaally hoping we get a comms this week. I'm all for QoL stuff, but I'd really like a sneak peak at the next content drop.
i watched a playthrough of it some time ago
seems like a pretty relaxing game
it is
u can even play it with a friend and disturb all the humans u can find
he already does that irl
damn there's multiplayer?
yessir
your existence will be disturbed
i'd be surprised if fatshark decides to make a commslink for stuff that isn't going to come out in a week or so after it
If it happens and you're not surprised, will u turn yourself into a lasagna?
why would i become like the rest of you
to eat yourself?
yum
shlerp
which blessing should I replace with skullcrusher?
Trauma
Read the crusher guide 
oh theres a crusher guide?
thanks
all I know is skullcrusher good
im gonna pore over this guide because man I love the crusher
Pore over 
Looks like average shouty main! Hahaha
Ulgo ogryn expert. If need help ulgo here!
have you used the lucky bullet bug
Why shouty ask?
THIS IS ME THIS IS ME
All I can legally say is "
"
Hi stanular
What are you up to today
drugs
Calling a recruiter today and trying to datamine Helldivers 2
You can't do drugs
why
stop tryna datamine helldivers 2
Oh military recruiter?
yes
Because you can't
Which military
the marines 🌈
They got some weird ballistics info and I want the deets beyond "Supposedly this weapon has a ~4x weakspot modifier" and I want answers on explosion damage
I don't eat crayons
Air Force, National Guard
wtf
I almost joined the national guard
I
Could you imagine me as a soldier?
that's not happening
yes stan
The military is desperate for recruits nowadays I've heard
Stan would be the perfect soldier, man can survive on anything
idk my first recruiter rejected me and I'm perfectly fit for the military
but that's a long story tbf
mres are michelin starred meals compared to what he cooks
No you haven't
Dough is from wheat
I said PST and you lied
Ur face is from ur FACE
OOOOO GOTTEM
BRRR BRRR BRRR BRRRR
Truuu
just like being a republican?
DAMN SON hope you got a parachute because you just got shot down
Wrong about what
Wha
i do love me some chicken tikka lasagna
dough pls go back to dubious
best coast
i cannot for i have been blessed
once more
yes
😭
WOW
Weast
Damn Arco just got recession
can we kill Stan and eat his body
Wrecked
no arco
I can't wat to come home today*
wat
Can't Hardly Wat
wat
Arco why do you have a period at the end of your name
I used to change my steam name a lot to whacky names so I added a period so that people would recognize me

It’s 9am
Do you know where your children are
so true
what does this mean
Hell no, I don’t even know if they exist
There used to be an advert at 10pm as a PSA that says "It's 10pm, do you know where your children are?"
stan has your children 

They’ll be 5 star chefs in no time
I am a 5 star chef
So true
u have a 5 star wanted rating for ur culinary crimes
Nahhhs
No.
Stan unlocked the 6 star wanted level
Stan draws power from eldritch food stuffs, a culinaromamcer
I wish people got wanted level if they commit culinary crimes
Ulgo warn you once shouty's do not corrupt new little one
how does thammer penetration work with the special?
just got me a chinese from the takeaway shop 😋
is that curry with fries
(e.g. is this bricked)
A Chinese what?
stats seem p good upgrade it and see where it goes from there
This is good, give it an upgrade
munchy box yum
Seems great tbh
time to farm some plasteel for the ol' hadron roulette
wish I had a base as good as that to work from
my thunder hammer's a hunk of junk it turns out
do love a big box of deep fried brown
60% first target bullshit
Are those
skill issue
Oh shit I would try it
Appelflappen with seeds
We apple flappin?
XIIIg chainsword on zealot is kinda fun but I wish it was more than 100% crit chance 200% attack speed
Finally, an adequate amount of salt on fries
Attention everyone: I dislike @south folio and he is also a bad person. Thank you for your attention
That's very likely msg too, but I agree
Both Chainswords have just about the best crowd damage available for a melee weapon. Mk IV is better than the XIIIg, but nothing else rivals the XIIIg at least on Zealot.
it goes to flat ADM into all enemies so you don't have to worry about pen
i wish one of the chainswords at least used the rev in it's attacks like the chainaxe
rather than just bonking people with it unrevved
No?
Wait what?
i forgor tbh
Carapace and Flak have lower ADMs on the special.
Fuck, I need a Thunder Hammer guide
There’s still a chance the last chainsword mark will work like that 
and Unyielding obv has the 3x bonus.
I don't understand how to make this shit work at all
the closer i can get to saltz falchion the better
smh you got the yellow name, people will trust your info
Saltless fries are king
I feel like Rashad is the closest to that
Or maybe a heavy sword
heavy sword too slow because ive been using new knife for like a month straight
What does this mean
Stan you'll be locked into a prison with good food one day.
i think TH is one of the few weapons i've never looked into how the fuck it works
Stan you'll be locked into a prison with good food one day.
I've done a small very unreliable test called "hit a crusher in meat grinder with different thammers"
tl;dr - minimal difference
Stan you'll be locked into a prison with good food one day.
hit a crusher with a crusher and realize that it's the best weapon in the game
I want to be That Guy who sneaks up to a daemonhost and bonks it into a different dimension
rashad combat axe???
when I tried a crusher while levelling it never felt particularly good
maybe now it'll be different
if you like looking at the scoreboard every five seconds you will NOT like the crusher
I don't have the scoreboard on because I'm not a tryhard
based
it makes everything up until mutants and bosses take a little nap
that's pretty much why I love it
What if you're both wrong
I built a good crusher, but I’m not crusher pilled yet
Crucis thunder hammer would be extremely fun for me if it cleaved through weak targets until it slammed into a tough target
Same
Ahem... iron helm
I'm not sure if this is a joke
Is right there.. exactly as you describe
Doing some pretty fun maelstroms today with a build around the infamous Taxe Mk IV and it's not that bad! I mean, is just like a worse combat axe but in return it does a good job with the ability cdr. Gong like this atm, any idea to improve it or something? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b7005e8-ae10-4671-96b6-059cfd6b4a41/pay-your-taxes
i tried a stealth crusher build the other day and it works pretty fun
Then what would distinguish iron helm
not only would that kill crucis identity
it would also make ironhelm useless
I like the moveset of crucis better, that’s why I say that
since crucis activation is literally 25% more than ironhelm
Ahem, H3 value doe 
pray for the 3rd thunderhammer variant then?
But yeah that's the main difference between the two
Crucis is still stronger
Iron helm ain’t too bad. Heavy heavy cancel on a slow weapon isn’t so painful
don't touch my sweet summer child
ironhelm isn't bad but I don't think crucis needs to be changed to be like ironhelm
Either block or qq, pretty easy for me. Even if you don't want to do that, L1 leads it back into a heavy
I just use block cancel in this game. I only QQ in vt2
I guess the whole playstyle of crucis isn’t something I vibe with, I’m trying to force myself to use it because I got essentially a god roll but it feels like I’m fighting the camera more than my enemies sometimes
Wait you were serious about the different crucis
Just use ironhelm if that's what you want ezpz
now what if thammers / crusher had power cycler 🤔
crucius is honestly already powerful enough
That would be stupid







