#zealot-class
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No, I disagree that it's underrated. Literally the most common grenade pick for zealot
they have different uses
dude everyone says go stun go stun
but like i disagree
fire nades are for big elite packs especially with bulwarks
yes
I think stun is more common especially since the middle column always just has those weird perks
yeah the main thing is you bringing it up out of nowhere saying it's underrated when like, most people do take fire
as far as i can tell
Works on ranged too, description is wrong
Throwing knives are the most underrated
no they ain't they overrated as fuck
See? People doubting the throwing knife
yes cause they are extremely mid
good for saving points when going second wind or crit but
Knives solves another tasks
otherwise no
the issue i am talking about here iis that if i play this build - the dmg loss frm TWBS is not worth it - id rather take the x2 extra points foor output
how to make judge shout u shall not pass?? .)) heard it twice, but cant replicate it, i am still leveling, at 14 rn, so maybe some perk?
literally no sv issue here for damnation plays
in anycase, Two, you've shown up here, claimed something everyone here thinks is good is underrated then claimed the thing you're saying is bad doesn't do everything it actually does.
You can legitimately drop 2 by losing one of your dashes and dropping 10% attack speed
You don't need extra damage that you can't contribute.
no fuck dropping 2 charges on dash what
its multipicative dmg dude
I just don't get close to it, can show me your tree show I can get it?
that shit's GREAT
not at my pc or i would
There is absolutely no survivability in this build
If he's on a crit build, you'd legitimately get it back in like 10 secs
search my images it's up there somewhere
No rush, take your time
if there's hordes around which is not when you end up using 2 charges
I do have the ones your circles but not really working
If you have shred, and a hit crit weapon, you'd have fury up constantly anyway and have 0 issue getting it back just hitting a monster
.... a monster isn't when you end up really needing 2 charges either
This is what I'm using. I'd like having TWBS, but I don't really want to drop anything to get it, and I can do well on Auric as it stands.
and yeah survivability is fine in that build what
It was an example of a single target
2 charges is for when there's ranged enemies + elites around
general;ly
this is great - but u sacrifice BP, and when talking about Evis - i prefer to capitalise off the crit windows.
fuck it i'm outta here people talking crazy
No stamina regen
Eh, Inexorable Judgment feels more reliable to me than Blazing Piety
I used heavy sowrd and combat stim but still no health
nice - but still. imo not worth the dmg loss - i already move just fine.
stam regen / toughness regen / ability regen on curioos
How much you die in Auric?
How
like, there was a reason the crit refund talent was trash before the talent tree rework, it's because it straight wasn't good compared with having 2 charges
that curio setup is uh
Often
3 useless things
lv 24 zealot here
i was wondering what to do to be a one man army
just been weilding knifes and thats pretty much it
Stam Regen is nice? Wdym
Quick question: Bulwurks and Reapers are carapace or unyielding?
unyielding
stam regen does absolutely nothing for zealot
THX
i thinj
A couple places on them are not unyielding
I can definitely go through enough stamina on certain weapons
Shoulder armor for bulwark, for example
not really - what woould you suggest?
I mean maybe if you are push attacking super often with a specific weapon but other than that eh
their flesh is unyielding. armor type damage bonus depends on the armor type you -hit- not the "base type" of the enemy (unless it's like burn damage
Yeah push attack a lot on knife and it became an issue
Aiming for their head
unyielding
Thx
you really do not need stam regen on zealot unless you're somehow just holding down sprint and pushing constantly
always more toughness, gunner resist, 3rd preference is health but you can play around with it
you can just go into the psykanium and shoot their head to see...
I also do that tbh
I just run around with a grim out pushing everything, why do you ask?
toughness regen speed is particularly bad because it disables when you are close to enemies
and ability regen is too small a number
man remember like last feb/mar
when everyone was running 3x toughness regen
12% cdr on ability isnt bad at all when u have it oon all 3
anyone know what to run for a hammer zealot build
riveting gameplay
it is when you already have crit CDR and 2 charges
12% is maybe like 3 seconds when you're gaining 1.5 seconds per crit. It's really insignificant
3.6 to be exact
And you sacrificed a curio slot for a single second
cdr from where?
when instead you could have like, 2x more health/toughness against gunners
Do you not know what the perks do?
like the talents or the blessings on the hammer
i have ccdr on crits
Yes
blessings
just want to want 1 hit demon host
The majority of your CDR is going to be from your crits and not your curios
It's a single second per curio slot
it means more ability usage if you are using it on cooldown
thrust and slaughterer is nice
you almost certainly aren't the vast majority of the time
thrust is necessary for thammer builds afaik
depends if ur needing sv or if u wanna blast
thrust + slaughterer or headtaker and unyielding + flak/elites
u can use a stealth backstab to get super high dmg on most bosses but idk if it works on daemonhosts never tried
In pins there's a guide that shows what part of each enemy is what armor type. Bulwarks and Reapers are mainly Unyielding but have flak and carapace bits
that CDR on curios might only technically mean 1 more ability usage a run
not when the cd is 30 secs
and soome matches take over 30 mins
but yes there are better curio slots than ccdr i agree
ill try toughness
but my toughness hardly faulters
there has never been a single game where I've been
"oh no! 3 seconds left on my chastise! if only I had cdr on my curios!"
no but i bet uve died when u wish u could have had chastise upp
Good evic build
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9ad0c955-2a38-4755-bc01-bfb49013ab69
oftentimes you vastly overshoot your chastise CD through just cleaving like 8 enemies with a crit
Realistically ability cooldown on curios does nothing for a zealot with blazing piety and scourge
and getting 12 seconds taken off when you only had 5 left
the odds of 3 seconds being the make or break on that front is exceedingly small to the point of being a meme to even consider tbh
so the 3 seconds you took off with curio CDR literally didn't do anything
but no
This is not very conventional
In videos all see
Crit CDR build on the XV is a bit odd
nah, the "odd" bit is wrath
You don't need Fury to do a Crusher 1 shot 
^
I've seen weird takes for sure but curio cdr being good is not a hill I ever thought I'd see someone on
if you just crit with evis 15 it will one shot a crusher
to be fair he's not really dying on it
but he is definitely overrating it
also blood redemption is ass
yep, is trash
yeah they said they realize other things are probably better and they would try something else so we can probably stop harping on it
No not dying on it, I never thought I'd see someone on the hill period 
also going knife just to go to piety on the other ass end of the tree is
weird
nah
This man don't dying in all missions
we gotta start a fad where you mow ur grass with a scythe
It's good
that's in spite of your build not because of it
cuz lawnmowers are fucking annoying
what is boltgun actually doing for your build
sluuuurp
You use knives like you would use a revolver
if you swapped to another ranged weapon why would you use knives
No, because
He solo close auric
Like legit not getting 25% but don't know if it stuck below
Well +Cleave on the XV is kinda okish, you get a lot of CC out of it with having 33 cleave on lights. It being on the XV though is odd since generally when you're spamming Fury you want to spread that damage to as many enemies as possible, the XV is just worse than the II for that because of the target cap.
exhillious
doesnt throwing knife skip the bolter draw anim?
whaddup
And the bolbgun is just a better grenade
Sure I'll whip something up for you
man i don't even know how long it's been since i've opened dt
Heblo Ak. Ar. I
Snarktide
U should blay Trade Roguer
good gam..
Ulfar my beloved..
Playin Rogue Trader makez me wish we had like
abelard the goat
a Mechanicus char in darktide
I feel like it's guaranteed
like eventually they'll add somethin from the Cult of Mars to Darktide
like an arc rifle or something
wait, this is a solo auric build? okay that explains things imo.
that doesn't make this build -good- for most people, it makes it crafted for a specific purpose where it has to be able to handle everything the game throws at it at all times. no allies to help dealing with hordes, no allies that would kill elites, no allies that would snipe specials, no ally carapace damage to rely on.
this build is crafted to take things relatively slow and steadily when piloted by an extremely skilled player
Hahah, loving that I'm dragging my team down for this penance, great design lol
it is not gonna be nearly as good for most people
this guy needs a boltgun cos he might need to solo 10 fuckin crushers
what penance?
he needs cleave on an XV evis because he has to CC the entire horde by himself
still feel like SS would be better to do that than wrath
these are not situations most people need to deal with on any common basis
agreed
gonna make a zeal when i fin leveling my pys and her Straga
If ya yk yk
i hate it when people see builds made to deal with very specific challenges and go "this must be best build"
The very specific challenge of playing the game
The Abyss penance
which the vast, vast majority of players don't do
On Evis I run something like this, sometimes I use Martyr. Change what you like. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9b0e96b8-76bf-4c3f-b3d0-fb78e30aed3c
is it a build that might do well in a clutch situation with a skilled player? sure, but it isn't good at -preventing- having to deal with a clutch situation and the vast majority of players aren't the build pilots of a caliber where the choices related to survivability in this build are optimal
This can vary a touch, obv a knife speedrunning solo build won't transfer well but I cannot imagine anything with normal playing intent would differ too much from the normal builds.
The way that people interact with other players through their build might vary though. That might transcend a specific build and be more of a playstyle issue though.
sure, it doesn't differ insane amounts, but there's some very obviously relevant choices in this build to adapt it to solo situations which wouldn't really be ideal in group situations by a less skilled player
Do I have to take out my curios that are giving me extra wounds?
What build are you running right now?
0 wound curios
Not playing any build, just having 3 wound curios
1 is 1 too much
many people run 0 wound curios
So I wonder if they are stopping me from getting that penance
but honestly i see far too many people get downed then instablapped by poxbursters
What bad about extra wounds?
they don't do anything past 1 really
don't plan to go down
generally you also die because people can't get you up
not because you didn't have wounds left
Do they prevent from the Abyss penance too?
can't remem what that penance is
no
The philosophy is that if you use Wound curios you're preparing to go down often, when Toughness or HP curios could prevent going down and therefore make Wound curios less relevant.
Do more damage
just proc it in a horde and go to town
Gothcha, will remove my wound and health curios then
I've done that in 6 games but it not going more, just little healht back
what melee you using
I tried hammer for specials, but nothign as well
you should massively overshoot that 25% heal
Probably it's just bugged for you then
(is capped at 25% but like w/e)
do you have headtaker on your heavy sword? you should still deal enough damage to get it but just curious
if you need to check i feel that you don't
tank u !!
wrath + vicious strike 
oh god
Is wrath locked?
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What mean by wrath locked?
No, as don't have other blessings
oh ok then
Is that prevent me from doing more damage?
You would do more damage with rampage, yes
So try to get rampage and headtaker for heavy sword?
If so, will have to do more crafting then
You can do it without rampage, it's just easier this way
All right, but do try to change wrath then?
Okay
It's not good for this specific need
Brutal momentum is good for single target and hoard clear tho
Save it ?
Sprint efficiency is goated
Espeically on zealot where there is a lot of sprinting involved
I should eventually go curio sniffing
been carrying more after switching off Chorus and using chastice evis. if im not the one killing elites cant count on teammates to do it
is shroudfield giving full vision in vent purge a bug
I guess?
idk i noticed that shroud would lift the fog in vent purge missions and idk if that’s intended
no
bug
makes sense
i think it's a cool aspect, like you put on nightvision goggles or whatever
it's very... splinter cell?
Vet stealth does that too
And it does feel very night vision goggly
For night jigglin’
rip
just had a full 3/3 scrip run fold in less than 10 seconds due to director bullshit and only one person got out, 0/3 scrips, last 20 seconds of the mission. no contract progress
such fucking horseshit
what is difference between eviscerator variants?
Ah yes, all possible answers back to back
The Mk II is better for crowds and the Mk XV is better for single target.
this is all on you m8, books contracts are an instant reroll
ty
after checking, yeah i missed your comment, but Dough had the answer i was looking for
Potential for testing out Chainaxes?
the perk is not really good, but upgrade it to blue and see what is your first blessing
the absolute brainrot of scoreboard chatters
"I got top damage so I'm doing okay right"
Hour ago i grabbed another (better one) so maybe one of em works out and other can maybe fish out good blessings
coming from the ogyrn with zero target priority, consistently left the other players on the ground, literally just Wing into hordes and going to 0 ammo on them then meleeing
(the 4th player psyker joined late and died for free to a hilariously bad spawn, he did great)
replacing a player who got pissed off that the ogyrn had let him die on the floor a second time
Not the first Ogryn ive seen going just 24/7 "run into horder guns blazing team ready or not" and dying there, well he got good damage, but constantly was on edge of wiping us
Guess the class is bit too forgiving of such behaviour
the only important part is here and tells everything
having to do literally all the taggable specials work
Yeah thats rough
also for what it's worth
that 1 down I have
was a barrel selfdown
to heal up to 66% 
the pro strats
Havent thought of that, zealot certainly has talents to support such 200 IQ emo moves
yeah when I'm playing 7 wound zealot I will frequently take a self down in barrel fire to heal
Guess that explains, never played wound/martyr zealot yet
that's tactical suicide
no? if you're inbetween waves, no special strikes, you're at like 2 hp
and Until Death already popped (which is why oyu're low in the first place)
i'm not saying do it mid fight lol
you're explicitly doing it in running sections
only when Until Death is down
and you really don't want to go into the next fight at 1 hp and Until Death is down
because that means the first shotgun you run into downs you
Welp we lost, but, I did an insane solo clutch after the mid event on the chasm station assassination mission.
It would have been 5x as easy on zealot, tho
I'm still learning how to use the voidstrike staff, though
I will always stan the mg12 las
it draws fast enough and snipes specials for when your team is asleep
see my above scoreboard, 95 special kills wouldn't have happened any other way
the solo clutch took like freaking 10 minutes tho cause I had to go back and forth due to poor talent choices and gunners and such x.x
revolver would not have cut it, I would have 1. run out of ammo 2. spent more time reloading than fighting
i enjoy laspistol mk2 ghost/dum and this
im using columnus rn
because columnus is just good
but Im sick of columnus and revolver
i dropped it into a trashcan yesterday, tried it and didnt like it that much
try laspistol or shotgun?
chastise the wicked
i understand, that's not bad idea and that works well if you're in a group knowing what you will do
If your team fails to rez you
when literally nothing else is happening
alt-f4
it's not group dependent at all
i hate the people only seeing dmg dealt in the scoreboard
i won't
like, ok big guy, you took > 1.5k dmg, died 6 times and had the most dmg dealt
you just had an op weapon and no skill
if he did like 1mil dmg its still better than someone who did 200, but like was staying behind there doing nothing
not assuming he farmed dmg somewhere (like purposedly at inf spawn)
yeah but you don't do 1M with just an op weapon
i had like a 13 minute game yesterday, anyone barely did like 250k damage and by the end of it people was like
everyone: eh? its already over? ggwp

that's nice
wait
does rashad crit well for piety? or nah
you took 2k damage
and died twice
not even went down
like fully die died
LOL
if it was me
best runs for me are those with people having a comparable amount of dmg
i wouldn't even post that
everyone was performing well and enjoyed the run
yo keet can i run piety on rashad
you can run piety with everything
you can but momentum is more fun since you benefit hugely from +attack speed on rashad
you already chopping heads
so doing that with crits will not change anything
apart from a bit more damage on elites
i use piety with knife or hsword most
but rashad already good at doing that
right
otherwise it's momentum
my game just sucks when my fps drops to 10
then i just throw the run
have you checked your drivers?
windows update periodically nukes my amd chipset drivers
and i have those freezes...
other possibility, you pc is throttling due to high temp
i use a program to block my temp at 80 max (i am on laptop)
no more spike, no more throttling
constant average turbo
well laptop are really high temp when you play heavy games
i remember like 96
ouch
it was so hot
96 is a nono
you cant even put a hand on it
Sure you can run shred for more crits too.
(well, that's the temp for me but i live in a hot and humid climate)
It can crit, yes.
But in comparison to other weapons there is noticeably difference in how slow it is.
that's a very good and balanced scoreboard
man my teammates have left me to stay un ressed for a whole minute, and then died to a horde
this game's so fun, it makes me wanna break my head when my teammates are numbskulls
oh my god
such players are simply built different
check damage
if damage is like 100k
oh wait
he was dead
for half+ of the game
there wont be any damage either
peperronis
I guess it was damage by self-exploding
How is it even possible to die with surge venting shriek
maybe with like zero toughness generation talents or something
Did a high 5 shock gauntlet with vent purge and we won. Only had to solo clutch once, during the end event. :3
The most fun part, is the first guy taking the same amount of damage, but dying/KO only 3/2
I am WAY more comfortable on zealot than I am on psyker hehe
Me only starting with soulstealer so I can have no regen during boss fights
ogryn moment
What ranged you using to have such high ratio of ranged there?
Brauto, but, I think most of that ranged damage was near the end since I got to let loose and blasticate everything on the escape sequence
thats not much
after i started using Brauto 8
its like 300k+ ranged damage every game
i just cant resist
Im running it too, but i seem to just whip it out for F rushes to armored stuff and specials mostly
Maybe should brrrrt more
dont forget it has cleave
so just blast specials with whatever there's around
literally brauto
this
i also gonna give Columnus V a shot later
but so far it was pretty disappointing
Any tips for using Brauto besides F rush to negate armor?
Yeah been tapping those for distance
and position yourself to penetrate as much targets as possible
Havent really felt any use out of the brace function
you get deathspitter and fire frenzy stacks almost instantly too if theres trash mobs
also its staggers poxbastards
quite easily
I made mine on day 1 of hitting lvl 30, so it had kinda room for improvement, gotta keep eye for (near)perfect rolls
For me I use deathspitter/fire frenzy(preferably fire frenzy) with my 2nd blessing as hit and run. While it lowers my overall damage, it makes me not only way more comfortable using the brauto, but, it also makes me more willing to dive into enemy shooters or other dangerous situations since I have a safety measure...
like how I have inspiring barrage on my autopistol
My perfect brauto is this, but, with fire frenzy instead of deathspitter.
dang autopistol is just so bad, i went to recheck again to how bad it was, literally worst ranged weapon in the game
0 flak damage
0 maniac damage
0 carapace damage
Chastice is not helping it
that much
still just too much garbage

Totally takes the longest time to reload, has the longest draw time
i bet there's no weapon that close to autopistol in its shittiness
Is super long range with no ability to be used at close range
makes you stop moving to shoot like the kantrael mg xii
Yet the highest rated guide on that build site suggets autopistol for you
(I'm not being serious btw)
but this one is not far from truth

and if you chastice
and then shoot at crusher
Crusher reaction: 
This is my prefered martyrdom set of weapons, since I don't have the throwing knives when I take martyrdom(since I take the left path to the stun nades).
i hope they buff autopistol
Autopistol is mainly for surprise trappers, and the overall utility inspiring barrage gives me
they just overdid it
The utility is increased for the autopistol since I'm a panic gamer and the inspiring barrage autopistol is like... made for a panic gamer like me. :/
i think bolter is still the best as panic weapon
its just deletes everything
just clunky to use
when aiming
The brauto is WAY better, but, when I don't have throwing knives and I have martyrdom I take the autopistol cause of the fast draw, fast reload, and toughness recovery from inspiring barrage covering my ass while I am panicking tf out lol
Does that work with poor aim, panicked players?
no toughness, but you can laugh at reapers and gunners
well mk2 has enough attack speed esp with chastice
so if you kinda aim at top bodypart
you still score headshots and procs ghost
I would probably do the toughness on crit kill and dum dum on a laspistol... or dum dum and the one that causes burning on crits
and I would also probably take it with my blazing piety build :/
burning on crits dont do much tbh
only on bosses
cuz laspistol damage is already pretty strong
mk2 too
so you can bring Raking Fire
or utility liek Ghost
That would be the reason I would take infernus(now that I remembered the blessing's name) x.x
My laspistol is exactly that, dumdum+infernus and for piety/crit build
It just feels pretty RNG, sometimes it just kills everything and other times you keep tapping for lotto hit
and blazing piety is a crit build...?
ye
hence why I said I would probably take the laspistol with a blazing piety build with dum dum and infernus or the toughness on crit kills >.>'
kinda missed bp part, mb
It's okay, I talk in a confusing manor x.x
Also I... I like a safety net, since I know I can't always predict how I will react when I am in my panicked state. I might do better when I am panicked, but, I also can fumble sometimes :/
Setting yourself up for success really does help, who would have guessed...

Thanks Big E
Oof
Its a shame i already have this, otherwise i might as well use that sometimes
Still gotta reroll the crit chance to something else
Eeeeh
i'd roll with crit chance on the columnus, assuming that you don't have another source of crit chance else where
So you would change the carapace to maniacs?
depends on how much you'll be chastising into crushers but yeah that's something i would do
or to flak or whatever
with 5% crit chance, the columnus has 17.4% effective crit chance
Unbrickable yoooo
with 10% crit chance, the columnus has 30.7%
? hoow so
It is done
What do you need that many ordo dockets for 🤔
My knife came in the mail today
So, does anyone know how this works exactly? The way it reads makes it sound like if I were to regenerate say 50 toughness from confirmed kill, then allies in my coherency would get 7.5 toughness...
New knife skin leaked
but I think we all know fatshark generally doesn't use the right wording for their descriptions...
Idk the maths exaclty, but there has been tons of discussions about this talent at vet chat and they all come down to confirm it sucks and it's worse than it sounds
so "It sucks" and "don't waste your time trying to figure it out" >.>
Does this help?
I mean with how confirmed kill works now I would regenerate 19.4 toughness on my Vet... and 15% of 19.4 is 2.91 so unless I was killing 10's of elites every couple of seconds the returns on it at base description value would be underwhelming at best...
19.4 isn't counting the 20% regen, just the 10% on elite kill
The example you brought up seems to be correct, only individual toughness increments would come from both instant toughness from Confirmed Kill and the over-time portion
Man that sounds like it sucks ass... :/
The skill is not great, that’s for sure
Even if it was 25%-40% it would still be underwhelming tbh...
here found it
actually i should just link the message so you can read the whole conversation
So it IS as bad as I was calculating, or even worse... wow, that's really sad
tho it sits in a battle of which one is less mid between 2 other almost useless nodes
ok the 50% supression caused can actually be useful in some guns, but still
i just wish supression werent a thing
Yeah, I just take this one since it helps me overall way more than the suppression or inconsequential amount of toughness that allies would get back from the other choice... :/
Other classes have indeed great personal skills for restoring toughness - and the skill doesn’t do anything if everyone is topped up on toughness, regardless
yeah
would be very nice if you could give your toughness regen per second to your allies tho
What's really sad is this talent probably will give your team way more in the long run, compared to that other one...
true
and no one picks that one
because it is in a really bad spot
that should replace born leader imo
Yeah, it is in a horrible spot for sure
tho 5 meters from the target is like
you ks'ing your team
cause they're already going to kill it if its 5 mt away from them
I mean getting enemies off of a struggling teammate would be easier since they would get toughness from your ranged kills
which would lower the potential chip damage they were taking
Depending on what type of ranged you had. A brauto, infantry autogun, headhunter, or hell even maybe the autopistol could all get some use out of that talent in the right circumstances
the only problem is... if you are preparing for that obscure of a circumstance, you might find it being just a waste in general since that probably doesn't happen as often as you would want
true
be me
join in Damnation match to test new build
Plague Ogryn spawns
"okay then not bad, oh it's charging I better-"
gets fucking hit by the charge through unknown means and somehow get sent through the world's most obscure ledge corner and die to falling off the map
What a beautiful start
Where as a talent like this would benefit the team in a less niche way, and more overall
skill issue 
jkjkj
You're a skill issue
cries obnoxiously loud
true
Anyway fuck that Plague Ogryn
its nice when someone has it specially now that its not needed having the vet with this talent to deploy the kit, but still, i never bother to waste a talent on that
The planets musta been super aligned if it managed to knock me off the map like that when there were enough walls to make one mistake it being the border between two nations
one time the beast of nurgle tail whip move launched me into a corner blocked by props and stuff. fell, died from a ~1foot fall
you never know, it could've sent you to a clipping wall or some invisible hitbox that stucks you in a third dimension
it has happened to me in the latest mission that came out
chaos spawn literally sent me to the roof
i was walking in a invisible wall
and got stuck there until i realized i had no option but to leave game and rejoin
@frozen ibex Should i use the mk 6, mk 3, or roll for a new knife? Pairing it with the momentum build
Mobility is pretty low 😔
It's use the 6.
Alr, im still gonna reroll for a new knife when i get 600k gold
I wanna play with while running at mach 5
I'll lend you some money, 20% interest tho
give me that plasteel 
^
Robbery 🔫
Ive invested over 20k plat in void strike staffs
Yeah go fast af boi
Still havent gotten the double balls blessing
does the mk6 dagger push attack hit as hard or harder than mk3 regular heavies?
I would get 2 knives if you can. 1 with double bleed 1 with uncanny lacerate
Depend on the maelstrom modifier
So I should get curios for toughness?
is there a trick to parry rager packs? some attacks get through no matter what I do
Welp got more farming to do

what is good farm for mats?? .)
low intensity t5
Depending on your preference.
Play knife zealot and zoom around.
500+ plasteels by yourself every round.
whats that? my zealot is 14 and so far i am aiming for Ushall not pass ability and hack n slash melee dmg .)
also do u keep materials even when mission fail?
you get a greatly reduced amount
You keep a portion of what you’ve gathered, so not all is lost
you get like 50% of the materials
less than 50% I think
more like 30%
as long as thou hast max dodges
then it's fine
dodge count is the most important stat for checking if your mobility is just right or pretty bad
Interesting build above.
ok, ty, tryied to click it myself and ended up with this trying to take all the speed there is and loner bonus .)
Should I upgrade this, or no?
Best I got right now trying for one.
what places would loner aura be useful?
Plasteel farming
farming materials i thought .)
we can "farm" plasteel?
Useless in combat tho
u can, jsut run around without group, find every little hidden corner of the map .)
And make the ai mad and spawning stuff
When you want to hard carry with martyrdom combat axe 
Soloplay speed run, but you still have better options
It's so op still my strongest build. Just not as fast as knife for grabbing plasteels.
Aye knife is imo 2nd strongest melee weapon for zealot. 
Number 1????
Bm?
Brutal momentum
Oooo
I love how knife stealth build fulfills my adhd desires. You're speedy as fuck and with blazing piety you can spam your ability
I got a better axe recently, might give it another shot again
Watching heads fly was satisfying
Yeah you deal 300+ damage to 4 targets every swing and you swing fast af.
Seems balanced 
🫡GL
O7

It's a damage stat so pretty important.
😔
Ff
Back to gambling
First target, pen and finesse as high as physically possible..

Is what u want
not sure why but I feel like I'm struggling to manage hordes with this on my BP chorus spam loadout
Okay okay, i just feel like im powerless against a horde of crushers and bulwarks. I can survive but cant kill them fast enough before a person or 2 goes down
i mean... it could be cause I'm not used to running without TWBS tbh 😓
Probably why 
Stun genade or stealth may be an option?
lol thanks ann 😆
Because this sword can easily stuck in any FLAK or other targets, so you WONT proc Savage Sweep
Depending on your build for the knife, I would just stun them
Bulwark you mince them with bleed. Crushers you heavy / push attack heads.
i use wrath on these swords (MK4 and MK13)
Also where team?
That or go practice tool vs 3-4 crushers at a time
Right next to me in most cases
He said it, ded on the ground
Yeah knife with big dodge is so easy to deal with crushers.
You can poke them so easily.
huh, I didn't know about this! I'll need to try harder to notice it next match 
Free overhead enjoyers? 

Makes me think of the time I watch a vet just walking infront of a crusher and shot it's head with a shredder

@proud jackalotherwise both MK4 and MK13 completely obliterate hordes and all specials, aside from Carapace, much faster than Evis mk2 or MK15
Replace crit chance with flak or maniac?
the downside is weaker special and less attack reach
😎👍
And then loose out on dmg??? You already move a kilometer with a dodge-slide.
What lost of damage? Momentum also give attack speed and damage.
The attack speed is to bust for 😩😩
Damn im tripping hard, mb. Thought that was a blessing 😭

Drink water 
Chastise flamer also good against crushers
Chastise any range 
Fully loaded kant 
Enables me to kill two crushers before the duration ends 
Play blaze trauma. Bulwarks and crushers where? 
In the ash pile to your left
Melee maelstrom gaming be like with blaze trauma 
Based infinite cleave armour ignoring flame staff.
Hmmm, love the smell of napalm
I want to use a flamer so badly but i cant use throwing knives. I have shit aim and my blitz is down on the d-pad so kinda awkward to hit and i need a way to insta kill snipers, bombers, and flamers
Aye then knife revolver is the way then. Revolver also real good against crushers.
You right, i should be using my revolver more against them
Crusher is also a pretty good weapon choice for a crowd of ogryns
Can take out all specials fast and kill crushers. 
Throwing knives are just so cool though. I guess on controller it's hard to quickly hit heads with it. 😦
😭
All I'm thinking about is that reddit video stealth crusher dud

Id so would use throwing knives more if i was on pc
Now you have me curious, link?
I think you can play mouse keyboard on console.
what's our best secondary (gun) for dealing with crushers and bulwarks on zealot?
I tried that
Something wasn’t working right

Not sure if it was the game or my keyboard
I'd say columbus
Then again the keyboard was brand new soo
But need chastise for crushers.
iag right?
Can the knife, shroudfield, blades of faith build pull its weight?
1.flamer with chastise.
2.revolver no chastise
3.kant with chastise
thanks again ann 🥺
Yeah
🙏
Tf is chastise
Fury
Without chastise then only revolver can deal with crushers.
The charging one
Left side active ability
Ooo
Chastise the wicked
Bolter I guess I never use it. Too slow for me.
Faithful fury
I saw that
ooo bolter could be spicy

If you can time it, the yes
just for some butt puckering action
Bolter with rending is good, or chastise Bolter. But it's slow and low ammo.
will i pull it out on time or just die??? 😆
Use knife to reduce pull out time
I don't like how they gutted Bolter so much.
What? They did?
Well, they gutted pinning fire
primary or blitz?
Reduced dmg on pinning fire

Blitz
I remember the time of one mag monster kills 
I have not touch bolter since patch 13.
When next patch though? They been silence.
Later in 2025
It's nothing new that they are silent after Xmas 
rending from a blessing? does zealot have rending at all?
From their ability
There's a blessing from bolter, or when you chastise.
ahhh okay
My fortnight play time for dt dropped to sub 50 hours 
Haven’t checked penances in a long while
Is it still at 75% or have they changed it?
That's too hard I prefer sedition. 
pinning fire for the blessing right?
😎👍
That's the extra damage blessing. The rending blessing is called shattering impact.
Yeah brittleness is team wide debuff. Rending is just for yourself.
So teammates hitting that crusher you shooting also do extra damage.
Go army!
(It's me)
soon
(Im gonna pounce on u and kill u)
Wtff..
Tippy tippy typey typey
Dubi dubi daba daba
x3
What's everyone's opinion on this?
Its a sword
It’s certainly one of the heavy swords in the game
If you were to give it a tier rating.
Well... this wasn't too bad for my 1st time on Vet in a coon's age >.>
A solid C+
Bad moveset?
There are better options
...What
especially since I was working with this lol
collateral is generally a dump stat right?
Yeah
dont know which heavy sowrd i ahve rn, but am leveling with it quite nice .)
I've moved back to DoW 
dawn of war?
Classic game man
The unification mod 
Trying to troubleshoot multiplayer with someone on Linux is pain

Most important stats imo are DMG, stability and reload
yeyeyeyeyeye
x3
Lemme fire up the pc, so you can see the 80% stability 
They are on vacation
I expect something a bit earlier, maybe 2025. Jokes aside, maybe something in Feb.
I cut the corners of so much stuff on my Vet... all so I could have the full -0.5s stamina regen delay. And I have to say: It feels amazing, despite what I gave up
January i guess is still free real estate
Vacation on 10th of Jan 
It feels so good to have the same stamina regen delay as psykers have, on my Vet... now what I want is a way to trade zealot's faster stamina regen for the psyker's stamina regen delay for the lulz xD
8th game trying for Penance
which one
Abyss
Run into horde, get "killed" and throw down a fire grenade and start swinging your melee, that worked for me.
Fire grenade works too?
which bless should I swap out for shatterring? this is going on my BP loadout
Since have been into horde and used my heavysword but not gettign that 25%
Want to join me? I think we can get you it in 1 try
literally, I got that when it was healing the higher amount of hp on my 1st try when holy rev had a higher amount it could heal
Cavalcade
Should, it says damage you deal. Melee just counts for more. Would also help to not run any health curios or talents
the crit one
I was serious about joining me. All we need to do is do a high int damnation in a private run and I can get you that penance real easily
keep pinning
I hear the multiplier on holy revenant for melee is 6 percent
thankie all 🙏
i forgot to turn on nvidia broadcast while recording the bolter @proud jackal 
So you need to do roughly 15 times one quarter of your max hp in damage
Which is roughly 4x your max
my keyboard is loud 
chastise into a horde after they get you to your death defy on a high int damnation horde with people who know what you are trying to get... like... 5 attacks and you will have gotten it
Yeah
I did that one when it was like 75% of your hp from holy rev
As long as you have a horde to hit, it should be guaranteed
RIPepperonis
Damn i received a sudden urge to prepare lasagna for dinner 
But i dont wanna go to the store again
Shocking stuff penance on the other hand 
its on vet tho
Make sure to add meat.

Neither
Shattering is ass atm
Use it as is for zealot
that bolter skin 😫 👌
Dam, bolter kinda hard
the stability is so nice!! 🤤
the 80% stability
Atm due to how Bolter ADMs work, shattering is useless vs 90% of targets
And vs crushers iirc its only 2.5% brittleness per stack sooo
Its a lot of bullets to get it to stack up to a reasonable level
so i just go and
press F and hold LMB
I'll give it a shot first then!






