zealot-class

[pale kelp]

neato dorito

[median crow]

you shouldnt be going down more than once between med stations

and in the event that you get wiped and your whole team gets merrrked by a sudden threat your wound curio doesnt do shit to pull you out

[ornate bone]

One might say it's because they go down enough to make use of it

[median crow]

10/10 times id rather have a little extra to get me through that wall

[ripe quest]

Only if running Martyrdom.

[median crow]

i forgot marty lol

[fiery ingot]

Id say it depends on your capacity as a player. I used to run 1x wound curio when I was still learning the zealot way. Swapping to a 3rd toughness when I felt comfortable was the best thing as i also felt a increase in survivability

[median crow]

I should make a serious build for that sometime

I'm used to playing with 2 wounds so

[pale kelp]

myeah, that's neat, I'm running a lot of defensives so thankfully I can no skill my way through not going down

[pale kelp]

you run 3 toughness curios?

[median crow]

why 3 tough over 2 tough 1 hp

curious

[pale kelp]

I'm running Hp, Toughness and Stam

I like my sprinting

[median crow]

IMO the only class that should run a stam is psyker

but it's okay on certain zealot builds

[fiery ingot]

Cause zealot has lots of toguhness dr but low base toughness

[fading vale]

the problem is stam just..... doesn't really do anything for zealot

[median crow]

and psyker basically needs a +3

[ornate bone]

For me the cookie cutter zealot is 2 toughness and 1 health

[fading vale]

cause half the time you are sliding on zealot anyways, and zealots have great base stam and stam regen

[ornate bone]

Gets me like 170 toughness and 310 health

[pale kelp]

that is fair, I run it for the "fun factor" with swift certainty so I can run around without worrying about stam

[median crow]

With all the health and toughness I can rock with 2 tough 1 hp assuming maximum rolls on all and 17/21%s I'm borderline as tough as an ogryn and MUCH harder to kill than one

[pale kelp]

or I suppose because I'm stil bad and don't want to learn to manage my stamina lol

[placid fiber]

wait... is 20% resistance technically 1.25x effective hp due to being able to take 1.25x more hits from said thing you are resisting...? @minor sage

[median crow]

and even if you kill me, I score one charged hammer heavy and I get 62 hp back

[median crow]

How is that?

[fiery ingot]

Either you bash too much or block too much because there's no way you should be running out of stam outside of the start of the mission

[median crow]

I've toyed with folding it into my existing build

[old badger]

Could someone remind me what the best mission for just a flesh wound is?

[median crow]

I sprint a lot

I'm usually the guy splitting off to loot

[old badger]

Also if anyone would like to run some matches to try and get it I'm on right now

[ornate bone]

My personal choice is Hab Dreyko

[rigid trellis]

oubliette assassination mission

[median crow]

^

oubliette

[ripe quest]

#zealot-class message

[median crow]

easiest mission in the game imo

[fiery ingot]

Is that the latest mission

[fading vale]

or uh, relay station I think is pretty easy to speedrun

[fiery ingot]

Im going to murder you if it is

[median crow]

relay is also good, fastest middle event

[ornate bone]

It's the scan one that ends in a corruption tree

[median crow]

hab dreyko sucks with a bad team though

[fiery ingot]

Oh god

[median crow]

the ending is a nightmare

[placid fiber]

Interesting

[fiery ingot]

That one is horrifyinh

[old badger]

Damn an oubliette assassination JUST popped up

[pale kelp]

you're asking someone who plays Heresy, I can't really give you an intelligent answer based on "facts" I run with my knife a lot, so I really like the extra speed, makes me nyoom even faster and I feel like mobs can't even dream of catching up to me if I want to run away, without it, it can be a bit whether they clip me or not with an attack

[rigid trellis]

if the penance works in the orthus offensive that would likely be best

[south folio]

get that money

[old badger]

But I don't have a full strike team rn damn

[median crow]

no one scans and ragers crawl up your ass every 5s

[pale kelp]

if you space for one more I need it done as well

[old badger]

I have 2 spaces

It's me and @native cargo rn

[ornate bone]

I could help

[pale kelp]

yooo

[ornate bone]

Possibly

[pale kelp]

YOOOO

[old badger]

It's damnation, not heresy sadly

[ornate bone]

Maybe

[old badger]

YO

[median crow]

so you can legit just outrun mobs infinitely in the open with no stam?

[ornate bone]

Damnation only makes it better

[fiery ingot]

True. But since its low difficulty, it shouldnt be a problem

[median crow]

without platforming to break up pursuit

[spare talon]

are you talking about the speedrun penance

[ripe quest]

If you want to calc effective health just do Health / % of damage taken as a decimal. In this case it'd be idk like 100/0.8.

[old badger]

yeah

[spare talon]

i can help

[old badger]

My friend code is 250315515 on steam

If anyone wants to drop in

[pale kelp]

I haven't ran out of stam

can't say

[spare talon]

send your fatshark code

[old badger]

We have one spot open (besides rik)

[median crow]

maybe i should try knife

[ornate bone]

Then I'm getting food instead

[placid fiber]

Ugh, I hate understanding what you are talking about x.x

[pale kelp]

I run +3 stam and like 24% sprint efficiency and Stam regen, it's way overkill

[old badger]

8536570743

[median crow]

Like I said, I literally only use ham,mer so I have like maybe 5 minutes on knife in 930 hrs

[fiery ingot]

What server are you guys

[median crow]

oh

[old badger]

us east

[ornate bone]

The Darktide server

[median crow]

that makes a bit more sense

[fiery ingot]

Ah

[placid fiber]

because dividing by 4/5 is the same as multiplying by 1.25... aka 5/4ths

[old badger]

@pale kelp gettin in on this?

[pale kelp]

used to run 0 stam, still more than enough speed tho

[fiery ingot]

Im sea nvm

[pale kelp]

yee if you still have space, I sent you a friend request !

[ripe quest]

Psykhanium wizardry

[spare talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/976221226823479337/1044327929796120606/attachment.gif

[median crow]

no need for stamina to block when anyone who bothers me is missing 65% of their head in 1 second

[old badger]

Saved a space for ya

[pale kelp]

<3

[native stump]

should i get just for the blessing or is this revolver actually good?

[minor sage]

yes you are both right
it's 1.25 or 1.25*1.25 or 1.25x 1.25x 1.25

[rigid trellis]

it's a good revolver

[old badger]

I was about to say its damage is rlly low but realized it's an agri and not zarona

[placid fiber]

I understand that when dividing by a fraction you multiply the number by the inverse of said fraction meaning dividing by 3/100ths means multiplying by 100/3rds

[pale kelp]

I dont' think you need the stamina tbh, if you just manage it a little, I'd suggest giving it a shot tho, going NYOOM is fun

[ornate bone]

gamba

GAMBA

let's do those viking choir grunts

[fiery ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-tears-terrified-scared-gif-25745077

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/wyrdamur-medieval-warrior-viking-vikings-gif-17845717

I will press the button, g*mers

[fiery ingot]

Is gamers another filtered word in this discord

Ah nvm

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/jumping-out-of-window-suicide-so-done-gif-8423077

[fading vale]

rip

[fiery ingot]

I wouldn't be surprised if it were tho

[south folio]

g*mers

[old badger]

im a fucking clown

[fiery ingot]

Same

[south folio]

so true

[old badger]

Forgot to set private game

[fiery ingot]

[pale kelp]

thank god you realised now rather than after I get booted for tanking approximately 4023 crusher overheads

[spare talon]

yeah you are
you should feel bad about it
(ive done the exact same thing multiple times for the exact same purpose)

[fiery ingot]

Everyone do that at least once

[ripe quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/487387789814661121/1193741523494371388/caption-4-2.gif?ex=65add16d&is=659b5c6d&hm=6b7f3d90870a9ffce68089c74f3fb0317558a143a4a090a8aedb370c7595dfad&

[pale kelp]

real

[spare talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/752917011473891418/1192838054361186396/RDT_20231031_1323326239380949685376485.gif?ex=65aa8802&is=65981302&hm=fb8b140dbec6e6d4cbf43149e8aafb9614e14fda452b15428c6e1d2635a36a81&

[fiery ingot]

Time to catpost

[south folio]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/829907757238845501/1161669462131486782/uni_fnaf.gif?ex=653923fe&is=6526aefe&hm=c3b03668b4ae7de1e20742c6b0bdbec60b386058d4bc87e0a5008b05a8c3e2a0&

[fiery ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-kitty-yeet-funny-gif-21938191

[ornate bone]

We're all in the tiny car with you

The tiny car called zealot chat

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-21985672

[fiery ingot]

Oh god

60 fps gif

And its a cat even

[spare dome]

oh?

[median crow]

im so excited guys

[ornate bone]

his name is big boobs

[spare dome]

hmmm idk if i can float that price tho

ima haggle him down

[ornate bone]

I'm sure you'll find some spare coin

[fiery ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/kneading-cat-post-meme-fast-gif-26392346

[ornate bone]

Ask Morrow

Tell him you'll take the trash out for a week or something

[ripe quest]

Agri is cool because there are like 4 blessings on it that are good

5

ig

[spare dome]

i dont need morrow i know what alleys to go to

[ornate bone]

Wow, he's a big boy

[fiery ingot]

Scattershot

[median crow]

terrifying to me that I'm about to hit 940 hrs and I barely am even 15% of the way to 1 mil

yet people had Skull Hoarder months ago

[fiery ingot]

Goddamn

[median crow]

fucked up

[ornate bone]

I still need Morrow holding my hand because last time I got lost and walked in what he called a "house for men"

I didn't understand why it was bad that I walked in one since he's a man and also lives in a house

[fiery ingot]

What did you find in there

[ornate bone]

Told me I was too young to understand the intricacies of the hive city

[median crow]

men

[fiery ingot]

Not surprised

[median crow]

we're in the endgame now

[spare dome]

skullhoarder is like

600-800 rounds at damnation

its gonna take a while

[median crow]

[ornate bone]

burn

[median crow]

burn has to be at least 76%

[fiery ingot]

Burned

[median crow]

on any weapon with it

[placid fiber]

idk about you guys, but, having 193 toughness on a martyrdom build seems a tiny bit like overkill lol

166 toughness is what I have with 2 wound curios and 1 toughness curio, tho, atm on my martyrdom build that uses chastise

I might try that and see how it goes, just to see how 1 toughness curio on marty feels

[minor sage]

yep

after I tested 2 wound + 1 toughness

I couldn't go back

[native cargo]

finally got off my lazy ass and got the just a flesh wound penance.

after like

[old badger]

i was the only one in the team that didnt get it ._.

[native cargo]

581 hours of darktide

[spare talon]

wait all of you needed it?

i thought rat was just helping

[native cargo]

Well

[old badger]

yeah lol

[native cargo]

I wanted it

[old badger]

everyone but you

[native cargo]

and was just like

"why not"

[spare talon]

oh this is like the 5th time ive helped out

was wondering why you skipped med stations

[old badger]

Now I'm the only one without it lol

[native cargo]

you gotta understand cole idc for the penance I just tried it for the meme and apparently got it

w>

[old badger]

that hurt my soul

I fucking hate having to take dmg from roamers

Cuz every single time I get downed

Love me barrels

[native cargo]

Also I was skipping because I was treating it like each second was worth it

[fiery ingot]

anyone could explain to me how mod load order should look like?

[south folio]

can be any order; the only mod that cares about the order (that I'm aware of) is logmein which needs to be the topmost

[fiery ingot]

since i installed weapon customization and true solo, my game has been weird. some heavy stuttering in lobby and getting ctd due to insuficient ram after a few hours playing so im guessing its load order since these mods are popular and plenty of people use them

[south folio]

damn that's a shame

i have performance issues but i'm not sure if that's from mods or my setup

[fiery ingot]

yeah its incovenient

[valid garden]

thinking of trying the ironhelm, I have a decent crucis but is this a good roll?

[frozen glen]

yeah

[valid garden]

thunderous for thrust and what else should I do?

[frozen glen]

maniac to flak

[south folio]

i guess just switching the order and hoping that it chugs better

[fiery ingot]

yeah will try to mess around it

ty tho

[valid garden]

I also have these

[south folio]

hmmm i should prob disable weapon customization now that I'm not using it for the weapons I'm currently running

i need them frames

[south folio]

good thing the player in this image is unrelated to me, a vet main

[native cargo]

Mine has been doing micro stutters occasionally since traitor curse part 2

so am just waiting for them to accidentally make my game better or smth idk

[spare talon]

@old badger i would help with the next one but my lvl 16 psyker brother is asking about weapons and how to set up mods

[gray ice]

I should probably actually go kill those twins now

[old badger]

No worries

I'll grab that one eventually

[gray ice]

you guys working on a penance or somethin

[native cargo]

uhhh

Yeah I finally got off my lazy ass and did just a flesh wound

[vague depot]

If I’m trying to farm Crits with a chainaxe do I use light or revved heavy attacks

[fleet zealot]

looking for the bottom of the bottle 😦

(not really I dont drink)

[native cargo]

endless bottle

[gray ice]

the rat improves

gj

[atomic sparrow]

bricked perk blessing or still usable?

[native cargo]

I had every other penance except that one for zealot lmao

[gray ice]

scatter to dmg of some type and crit to flak/maniac and it'd be fine

[native cargo]

I just didn't want to take the few seconds to ask in here when I coulda just done a quickplay damnation and swing me crusher

very solid reasoning ik

[old badger]

Might see if anyone from psychat is willing to drop in for that penance. Or if anyone here wants to

[atomic sparrow]

thinking if i should change crit to Maniac too

[placid fiber]

sigh I hate it when my strike team chat stops working lol

[native cargo]

^

just happened to me

now my foot itches

[placid fiber]

I was trying to tell them we should wait for the other player to rejoin x.x

but i couldn't

in case of a dc

[native cargo]

yeah I'd change it from crit change to maniac or cara. idk just something not crit chance

Idt kant really thrives off crit but I've been wrong before

[old badger]

Before I ask psychat, anyone here wanna drop in while I try to do this penance? Basically we play normally but if we see a monstrosity, nobody touch it

[vague depot]

Is pushing it with relic fine

[old badger]

Does it do damage

[vague depot]

Don’t think so

And if it does it’s not enough to kill a single infected with the entire duration

[old badger]

If it doesn't do any damage then it should be fine

[vague depot]

Ah

[copper hawk]

These thingz must be related

!!!!!

[vague depot]

It staggers and suppresses

[native cargo]

they are yes

[vague depot]

No mention about damage

[old badger]

Should be good then if you wanna drop in

might take a couple matches bc a monstrosity has to spawn first, and then the matter of actually accomplishing the thing

[vague depot]

Ok

unrelated question are these good stats

dunno if 390 means it was 350 grey though

[vague depot]

Nvm it’s not even the version I want 💀

[fleet zealot]

low shredder sucks

[old badger]

We just needa find a 4th player and we're good

[elfin steppe]

I forgot who created it.

[vague depot]

So prioritize damage, penetration and shredder?

[fleet zealot]

especially on mk4 cause the light attacks are useful in some cases

[fleet zealot]

yes

[vague depot]

Got it thanks

[fleet zealot]

stat distribution>modifier stat totals

[vague depot]

I didn’t read properly I was looking for a xii chainaxe

Whoops

Also what’s the point of rating

Is it just higher rating=higher stat

[fleet zealot]

just shows the total score, iirc, higher mod score= higher chance for t4 rolls

[vague depot]

Bet bet

Thanks

[fleet zealot]

but it's just an increase in odds, a 380 can get unlucky and get t3s, and a 314 can get t4s

[vague depot]

Aight

Thanks

[ripe quest]

There are ways to practically force rolling a T4 blessing and I think perk but it is used for farming blessings and not much for getting good weapons.

[old badger]

@vague depot we both need to restart, our chats both bugged lol

[vague depot]

Ah ok

[vague depot]

Also I’m wondering wouldn’t it be a good idea to play on auric to get weakened monstrosities

Or does that not count

[old badger]

I'm... not sure

[fleet zealot]

there might be misinformation out there because in vt2, your item score level DID give you gameplay stats, but this is not the case in DT, only the stats themselves (modifiers, blessings, perks) affect gameplay, total scores doesn't

[old badger]

tbh

[fleet zealot]

maelstroms with monstrosity modifer counts yes

[hushed agate]

Whatcha talkin bout

[fleet zealot]

for the melk weekly

[old badger]

I'm trying to do malleus monstorum

having trouble finding a 4th player tho

[hushed agate]

I do not believe there currently is a penance or challenge that gets changed from it being a weakened mostrosity

[hushed agate]

Ah

[fleet zealot]

oh yes

weakened monstrosities do count

yuo just have to be in a private game

and it's a lot easier for someone to over damage the boss if not careful

but you do have terms messed up and I think that is why buffshotgun got confused

auric is just the level 30 mission board, maelstroms are the special missions that can roll weakened monstros

[pale kelp]

for the psyker achievement?

[pale kelp]

put me back in coach

[old badger]

yeah, I might've found one though not sure yet

[pale kelp]

ok nvm if you found one don't put me back in

[old badger]

Sent an inv

[vague depot]

We just ditched the ogryn

[old badger]

My other friend just

wasn't answering

so yknow

[vague depot]

Now he’s probably just sitting somewhere

All sad

[frozen spade]

Does anyone still use Haymaker for dagger builds? is it any good these days?

[old badger]

Which map is it that has the bridges and shit?

The long ones, where you have to get the 2 power cells

[fleet zealot]

no

[old badger]

That's the one I'd like to play bc I could potentially get like 4 penances in one match

[south folio]

enclavum/commsplex

[fleet zealot]

and wdym still use, no one should be using that on knife

[vague depot]

I think it’s mercy killer and uncanny strike on knives now

[fleet zealot]

even the new knife which has better cleaving attacks wants uncanny+precog

[placid fiber]

Well, the test run with 2 wound and 1 toughness curio went pretty well for the martyrdom build I was using

[old badger]

this one?

[fleet zealot]

mercy killer is only okay on vet, it is a half as effective precognition

weakspot damage vs finesse damage (which is crit and weakspot damage)

[pale kelp]

what precog do?

[south folio]

yeah commsplex has the bridge at the start

[fleet zealot]

60% finesse damage after dodging anything

[pale kelp]

oh neat

[old badger]

Alrighty, thank ya

[pale kelp]

excuse you ? aint no way

[south folio]

+60% finesse damage = +60% weakspot dmg and +60% critical damage (same bonus as the weapon perks)

[pale kelp]

that is WILD if tru

[vague depot]

I’m gonna go shove the monster with my relic and immediately run for the hills the second it runs out

[fleet zealot]

if you dodge a sniper, shooter fire, melee attacks, as long as you dodge it you get that precog buff

[south folio]

just to be 100% sure, if you want the battery event, it's enclavum baross

[old badger]

I'm going to spam brain burst and hope to god it works

[south folio]

commsplex has the bridge but doesn't have the battery event

[fleet zealot]

and of course uncanny strike is just, the best blessing ever

[old badger]

I just want the ledges

Bc I still need cliffhanger

And the ledges on the side of that event are PERFECT

[fleet zealot]

nahh

[south folio]

hmmm

[pale kelp]

b r u h it is real

[fleet zealot]

best map is the torrent tower mission

or the smelter

[south folio]

i'm not sure if enemies spawn in significant quantities from those ledges on commsplex

[fleet zealot]

for cliffhanger

[frozen spade]

the only thing about that is how it says "successful dodge" and I get the feeling that only procs in certain ways, that you gotta dodge an attack in progress in a certain way. I just always feel like those blessings that need dodges rarely proc for me.

[south folio]

yeah it doesn't proc if you move too far away

you'll have to spotdodge them

[fleet zealot]

you can spot dodge anything that is "locked' to you

from ranged fire to melee attacks

and with knife having the best dodges in the game besides like, dueling sword

it is really easy to maintain

[frozen spade]

what do you mean specifically with "spot" dodge? does spotting a target thats attacking you somehow affect it?

[south folio]

there's something akin to i-frames for dodges against melee

just that the game checks for how close you are to the attack

[fleet zealot]

it simply is the biggest damage bonus, and if you want consistency, you dont go mercy killer

you go executor

[south folio]

so as long as you're not too close, a properly-timed dodge will let you ignore the attack

so you can just think of dodging as "shortening" the melee attack

[fleet zealot]

both ranged and melee attacks have a sound que, even if you aren't looking at them,

[south folio]

the only caveat is that how much an attack gets "shortened" occurs on a per-attack basis and is not necessarily intuitive so you have to kind of figure it out by experience

[fleet zealot]

time the dodge around the audio que= counts as a dodge for precog

[north sedge]

Knife talk eh, bleed bleed bleed it works for me spite youtube video bleed

[fleet zealot]

why executor? 30% power> 60% weakspot damage

[ripe quest]

On knife that can vary

[fleet zealot]

but 60% finesse is slightly > 30% power with knife scaling

[fleet zealot]

for weakspot damage I believe not, but it is when it is the full finesse damage that it takes over

[median crow]

[ripe quest]

Big paragraph bleed bleed arguement
Bigger paragraph spite spite wojak chad meme

[frozen spade]

oooo ok, thats interesting, I definitely notice that noise poxwalkers make when they're lunging

[fleet zealot]

video posted a month later about the vicious harassment

"they explained the mechanics to me"

[median crow]

is this dead?

[placid fiber]

So, uh, does tox flamer resist at least do anything now?

[fleet zealot]

yee, range enemies have slightly different warning ques

[fleet zealot]

yep

[south folio]

oh yeah, running attacks tend to have a decent dodge catch, so they're a bit annoying to dodge
better to dodge those sideways most times rather than backwards

[ripe quest]

On knife 60% weakspot will provide more single target damage than Executor

[fleet zealot]

not worth it imo, corruption resistance just covers too much

[ripe quest]

60% is like 40% total damage on the heavies

[fleet zealot]

yes but executor applies on first hit to an enemy

[median crow]

should have stopped at purple

[ripe quest]

So does Precog

[fleet zealot]

mercy will require 2 swings unless your team has another source of bleed

[median crow]

fuck you hadron

[fleet zealot]

damn she bricked that

[ripe quest]

Precog also has the 60% weakspot bonus

[fleet zealot]

yes

and that is why i say precog is the best

cause it's finesse

you go precog, you take the duelist talent for 50% more finesse

[ripe quest]

I was mostly referring to this

[fleet zealot]

you do what is called a pro gamer move

[ripe quest]

Also Duellist isn't +Finesse, it's +Weakspot and +Crit

[placid fiber]

... there is literally only 1 positive thing I can think about for these modifiers... and that is this for when you need scab melee or ranged kills...

[fleet zealot]

does that not come out the same way?

[ripe quest]

Meaning they add together with Critical Weakspot damage

[fleet zealot]

damn that is really stupid coding

[ripe quest]

Duellist is 50% weakspot, critical, and 100% critical weakspot

[fleet zealot]

finesse is crit and weakspot damage so having a talent that does crit and weakspot separately is confusing

but anyways

you go duelist+precog cause it gives you a ton of damage

and in higher difficulties there is always something shooting or swinging at you

[ripe quest]

Found out a while ago when Lazorr kept randomly 2 shotting chaos spawns and it turned out Duellist can be nuts with an ult

[fleet zealot]

this makes me hate fatshark

cause it jsut

doesn't make sense they already had a combined weakspot/crit and it was called finesse damage, but now they have a talent that is both but it is 100% crit weakspot so it's not truly 50% or 100% finesse

[fleet zealot]

that's gonna be a lot of scab stalkers

[south folio]

wtf

:(

[ripe quest]

The same interaction happens with +weakspot and +critical perks and other talents of that nature. They add together for critical weakspot hits

[south folio]

i guess that's why they split it

[ripe quest]

I don't think it was intentional

[south folio]

so the +crit and +weakspot from +finesse don't combine for crit weakspots?

[ripe quest]

They probs just didn't want to put +weakspot +crit on everything so they made finesse after they made Duellist or smth

[ripe quest]

iirc in the code +Finesse is it's own increase that just adds to all three finesse hits.

+weakspot and +crit add to their respective finesse hit and critical weakspot hits, so naturally the interaction is born

[fleet zealot]

So duelist precog, dodge chaos spawn, pop ability

Reap rewards

[south folio]

hmmmm

if only psyker had duellist

[fleet zealot]

At what part is backstab added in, for BoN calculation

[ripe quest]

You get a better knife dw

[south folio]

hell yeah

duelling swords should get lacerate

[fleet zealot]

Pretty sure stacked gaze and destiny will do similar

It is just way harder to get

[woeful pecan]

I did my first Auric Maelstrom mission. Just Heresy, but still. Holy moly.

[fleet zealot]

Would be a nerf to the weapon with all the people baited to use it

[south folio]

it'll be an IQ check

[ripe quest]

Level 18 Zealot in the lobby

[south folio]

jumpscare

[ripe quest]

Bro doesn't even have a keystone

[woeful pecan]

I am not the level 18. I am Loony Greepus

[ripe quest]

Yeah I know

[hybrid gull]

what am i shooting for on zealot curios

[ripe quest]

I'm just saying that there is a level 18 zealot in the lobby

[frozen glen]

toughness gunner res and ORDOS

[woeful pecan]

It was a hard time.

[atomic sparrow]

if only this is on Rashad and not tacaxe

[ripe quest]

3x Toughness, 2x Toughness 1x HP, and Wounds only for Martyr (can do a mix of Wound and Toughness if stacking TDR). Perks are Toughness, HP, Gunner res, Sniper res, Ordos, some people like Toughness Regen Speed.

[fleet zealot]

Toughness hp gunner resist sniper resist

[heavy arch]

Run that taxe with Marty

[fleet zealot]

God i fucking hate twitter

I got forced logged out of my account on my phone

[woeful pecan]

I've just started using 3x toughness w/ hp, toughness, and gunner resist to good effect.

[fleet zealot]

Except i cant log back in

Cause it says im still logged in on this device

[ripe quest]

Yeah that is a safe bet

[fleet zealot]

Excvept im not cause im stuck to not having a profile at all

Ahh i fucking hate elongated muskrat

[woeful pecan]

I was using sniper resist for a while, but I usually only get sniper'd like once every few missions. Gunners bully me more.

[heavy arch]

delete twitter

[fleet zealot]

No there is little gays in there that make me happy

[hybrid gull]

so ideally id farm 3 17% toughness curios

[heavy arch]

how little

[fleet zealot]

Until it becomes pay2use im sticking it and calling it twitter

[fleet zealot]

If you are at the point of farming curios, the 250 melk gacha is good place to farm

Thats how i got all my current endgame curios

[vague depot]

Well I guess now I know beast of nurgle doesn’t give two shits about relic stun

[fiery ingot]

what do i do here? change rev to thrust or slaughterer?

also just realized chaxe has both mobility and defences lol i thought those stats did pretty much the same thing

[placid fiber]

lol I love showing the newer players the power of the thammer with martyrdom and chastise, hehe

It wasn't damnation, but, I basically 1 shotted a plague ogryn. I say basically cause they got it to like 80% before I got my 3 stack thrust hit on it

[polar nexus]

I love mostly melee but with a billion hidden snipers

[placid fiber]

heh, the +special waves doesn't care that it is mostly melee

[ripe quest]

Yeah swap out Rev it Up. Can either keep the perks or swap Unyielding to Flak.

Up to you

[fiery ingot]

got it. ty

[spiral anvil]

I love thrust because you can do hideous amounts of damage

[fiery ingot]

hmm i havent tried it yet

i did like the chaxe but didnt play much with it

[spiral anvil]

It's flexible so you can change it to slaughterer in case you don't like thrust

But one shotting crushers is really nice

Also dumping on bosses

[fiery ingot]

what keystone should i go for with this? inexorable?

do i take any of the cdr nodes?

[spiral anvil]

Any of the three is fine

[hallow hatch]

what to do to make this better

dumdum and get rid of infested?

or firefrenzy

[fiery ingot]

yeah

[spiral anvil]

Dumdum is generally considered BIS

[fiery ingot]

but id stick with it only if you dont have a better one yet

yeah because dumdum only requires you to shoot, not kill and its bugged so it works on any range

[fading vale]

the full on face bury

[obsidian prairie]

eepy

[ashen plank]

Should I change Wrath to Deathblow?

and/or switch unyielding to maniac?

[royal vortex]

yup

[haughty haven]

yo

im working on a zealot

if i take rampage off of a heavy sword can i put it on a evicerator

[north sedge]

no

[royal vortex]

nope

[haughty haven]

gdmn it

[north sedge]

blessings stay in the weapon family

[royal vortex]

weapons are only stored on a weapon family basis

[haughty haven]

how close in the weapon family

[royal vortex]

so no crossover between eviscerators, chainaxes, hswords, etc

[pale kelp]

what does the special attack on this do

[haughty haven]

damn it lol it's the same damn blessing

[royal vortex]

i mean like if it doesn't say "eviscerator" you can't put a blessing you got from an eviscerator on it

[next crow]

i think usually it goes like this: <NOUN> <MARK> <FAMILY>

[haughty haven]

backslash

[pale kelp]

uhh

I don't think i know what that is

[haughty haven]

like a strike from the waist up

a backwards swing that staggers a lil bit

[north sedge]

it's antiarmor slash

[ashen plank]

Special attack on heavy sword is like a staggering hard hitting head slice move

[next crow]

so if you had something on a ANTAX (noun) MK 5 (mark) COMBAT AXE (family) it should be shared with an ACHLYS MK 8 COMBAT AXE

because they're both in the COMBAT AXE family, even though their noun and mark are different

[haughty haven]

oh so force swords should be interchangable?

[next crow]

i... believe so? someone pls correct me if i'm wrong here

[north sedge]

correct

[spiral anvil]

They have the same blessing pool yes

[ashen plank]

Staves aren't, not sure about force swords

[haughty haven]

i got deflector III on a illys

[north sedge]

staves are the exception where they're all seperate

[spiral anvil]

Staves no

[haughty haven]

apparently it's one of the sought after ones

[north sedge]

eh

its ok

[haughty haven]

just hard to get from what reddit says

[next crow]

yeah cuz the staves are RIFTHAVEN (noun) MK2 (mark) PURGATUS FORCE STAFF (family)

[north sedge]

like "im not mad im stuck with this" kind of thing

[spiral anvil]

I'll take whatever reddit says with a bowl of salt

[haughty haven]

it's pretty badass ngl

[next crow]

vs NOMANUS (noun) MK 6 (mark) SURGE FORCE STAFF (family)

[haughty haven]

fucker stops sniper rounds with no stamina cost lol

[next crow]

so none of the force staves are in the same family

[spiral anvil]

People angy about staves with different blessing pools but like

The autoguns?

I vs B vs HH

[north sedge]

that's fine

staves are annoying cause some of the blessings are irritating to get

[ashen plank]

atleast there is like 3 of each autogun

[spiral anvil]

Wack

[ashen plank]

there is only 1 of each staff

[haughty haven]

i don't use a stave on my psyker

mostly force sword and brain burst

[ashen plank]

they busted

trauma staff fun crutch

[haughty haven]

tilll you pop lol

[placid fiber]

I love murdicating monsters, hehe. Had an Ogryn with a shield and he thought I wanted him to pull the daemonhost that spawned, so it took me a bit to 3 shot it since I had to chase it down x.x

[haughty haven]

see staff psykers poppin all the time

[plush shale]

Because of the ultimate, shooting from the same Columnus allows you to ignore armor

[placid fiber]

Honest mistake, though, on the ogryn's part

[spiral anvil]

I'm talking about blessings 👀

[plush shale]

Oh sry

[haughty haven]

i thought i'd like the heavy sword on my zealot but its pretty meh for me

[ashen plank]

I didn't, now I'm better at dodging I love it

You get such long dodges and so many

[haughty haven]

evicerator next and if that don't work out its back to being a bowling ball with the zappy stick

[next crow]

not every weapon is for everyone!

[plush shale]

How TRUE VODKA RU PLAYER I have only three builds - which close Damnation Auric solo, which give TRUE ZEALOT EXPERIENCE and which give SNEAKY SNEAKY

[ashen plank]

can basically zoom around while doing back to back heavy swings

[next crow]

i tried a bunch of different weapons and my favorite is the rashad because you just spam lights at head height for everything except carapace, for which you use heavies

[haughty haven]

thats like any weapon with the zealot lol

[next crow]

but it differs between people

[plush shale]

Rashad TOP 1 weapon in game

For zealot*

[haughty haven]

do the blessings cross chars for the same weapons?

[north sedge]

yes

[plush shale]

Yes

[haughty haven]

nice

[plush shale]

And same types weapons

[haughty haven]

my bad im kinda getting out of the cluster of this chat i g with these questions

[plush shale]

All tactical axes, for example

[plush shale]

All okay

[haughty haven]

ohhhhh shit

so the grade IV headhunter i got i can use on a vets vraks autogun?

[plush shale]

Bless in same person

All blessings need open for new person again

[wraith helm]

Someone needed to say it

[sharp haven]

so here's the flamers I'm working with, the far left is in melk rn and the right 2 are ones I have currently. Any general thoughts? I use the 519 one mainly

[plush shale]

RU Community very active and always testing all
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a911285-0b85-4aa7-ac63-a8f1053e586b/rasadus?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button
Now it's universal meta build

[wraith helm]

You say universal, i still see knife zealots running and catching slams from maulers

[old badger]

Not sure what to do with the extra 3 talent points I have. any ideas?

[plush shale]

Vs Maulers - Bolter+ult or axe

Knife vs snipers/trappers/dogs/rangers/flamers

[ripe quest]

I'd drop Scourge and put it on BR, grab Second Wind and get Duellist personally.

[plush shale]

Or sry, im wrong understand you

[wraith helm]

its ok friend

[ripe quest]

Could also get Sustained Assault

[next crow]

You could also go into the 50% TDR on crit if you're already doing crit bleed shenanigans

[polar nexus]

ì am so mad i didn't think about that bp T_T

[plush shale]

Knife zealots it's fun) but need bolter

[ripe quest]

Why would you want Boltgun on knife

[wraith helm]

To easily pin or spray a horde of crushers down with charge im assuming

[naive star]

This fine to work with?

[ripe quest]

You could just use a Flamer for that and it covers knife's weakness at the same time

[wraith helm]

Bolter has the oomph you need for the armored tagets

[elfin steppe]

This comment caught me off guard.

[wraith helm]

you can bring immo nades for hordes

[polar nexus]

because you use stealth and cannot chastise?

[ripe quest]

With the current iteration of Boltgun I'd much rather have a Flamer than a Boltgun for Crusher swarms.

Handles more with less ammo

[wraith helm]

Or just use a Caxe and ||CHOP CHOP CHOP!! ||

[naive star]

IV or XII Chainaxe?

[polar nexus]

who need flamer when you can run lacerate uncanny and MAKE BLOOD RAINS

[wraith helm]

mk 12 has more overhead strikes i think so its really a matter of preference

[old badger]

mk2 does do more damage

but its mostly moveset preference

[north sedge]

Mk 12 is stronger heavies

[old badger]

wait

chainaxe

im a clown

disregard me

[north sedge]

Mk4 a bit better at crowd

[old badger]

Did they ever make the chainaxes like

usable

[polar nexus]

yes

[ripe quest]

IV will be better at crowds, the XII is better for single target. Both 1 shot Crushers so it's not a huge difference.

[placid fiber]

lol it's kind of funny how I can spam the voidstrike's left click against a crusher and lower my peril, since I have t4 transfer peril on it

[ornate bone]

PSA: don’t be an asshole like me a week ago and go way ahead of your teammates on heresy or higher. No matter how confident you are, you’re still not an astartes.

[wraith helm]

Yes. I forgot what they did to make them better though

[ripe quest]

Chaxe is currently the Thammer equivalent for Flak and Carapace. Best assassination boss and twins per hit damage on the market.

[steel agate]

That does sound very funny

[old badger]

their biggest issue was dogshit horde clear because they got stuck on EVERYTHING

[haughty haven]

i just spam bb with venting shriek for crushers and the like

kinda fun gameplay rotating between sword, gun, and skyfren powers

[ripe quest]

H1 PA did ok for fodder hordes, especially with Headtaker Slaught

[steel agate]

Blows up armor with mind

[ornate bone]

Thunder hammer SOLOS your favorite Moebian!

[ripe quest]

It had issues with bruisers but a Kant or Flamer fixed it

[ripe quest]

We were talking about ranged weapons here. Flamer will cover Crusher swarms better than Boltgun.

[old badger]

i expected to love thunder hammer but ended up hating it

[ornate bone]

Why?

[north sedge]

#zealot-class message nuh uh it's so very weak

[old badger]

hitstop

[wraith helm]

I know. I dont see how DoT damage would be better. I never seen used aside from bolters

[placid fiber]

Here it is, I got a clip to show it even hehe.

[north sedge]

Check my message link to find out how bad it is!

[ornate bone]

I’m not familiar with that term.

[old badger]

thammer gave me an extremely hard time with more than a few enemies whereas eviscerator lets me solo an entire horde

[old badger]

stops on hit

[wraith helm]

Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

[old badger]

cleave

doesnt go thru a lot of enemies

[ornate bone]

Oh

It doesn’t hit stop if you heavy attack while it’s uncharged

[old badger]

i find it hard to believe some emaciated 5'8 dude who weighs 90lbs is going to have enough mass to stop a hammer bigger than his head

[old badger]

I don't want to have to heavy every attack

its just not for me

[ornate bone]

Not EVERY of course, but I find it good for hordes when I’m backed up and I don’t have enough time to reload my flamer.

[wraith helm]

I thought they patched increasing fire damage from charge

[ripe quest]

The armor degrade has been a thing since launch

[steel agate]

Absolutely hilarious

[ornate bone]

Flamers are so underrated.

[old badger]

i want to love the flamer but i cant

[frozen glen]

mmmmmmmmhhhhhh flamer

hmhmhmhmhggmhgh

[ripe quest]

They're a good compliment for single target leaning weapons, Chaxe/Flamer will pull some weight in Orthus

[old badger]

which is so weird because my therapist thinks im a pyromaniac

[north sedge]

It's good for specific modes

[ornate bone]

Single target? I use them for hordes.

[old badger]

my issue with the flamer is just that it feels like its ammo goes so quickly to me

[ornate bone]

Why not?

[ripe quest]

No I mean it's nice to use a Flamer with a single target weapon

[old badger]

^

[ornate bone]

I’m a loot goblin so it works for me 👍

[ripe quest]

A couple puffs will make even the worst horde clear better

[old badger]

I love it but I feel like I have to reload it so often that it ruins it for me

[ripe quest]

And at like no cost

Kant can do it as well

[ornate bone]

OHHHH u rite

[old badger]

i run mk2 evisc and zarona so yknow, im basic

[naive star]

Does waving around the flamer make it BBQ em faster? 🔥 😄

[ornate bone]

Me personally when I need to reload I kill a path through the horde to the other side before I reload with the flamer so it’s safe for me to reload. Or use the relic for a second.

[old badger]

this person clearly doesn't remember the flame whip from SH: Deathwing

[naive star]

Never played that, so nope

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-spacehulk-deathwing-terminator-heavy-flamer-gif-26134742

[old badger]

its a gem

kinda like vermintide 2 but ur an astartes

[median steeple]

god this game was dumb but I loved it

[ornate bone]

I don’t believe so, but if you get off the enemy for a second with the flames any hitstack perks unapply.

[old badger]

i wish ppl still played it

[ripe quest]

No I was just in the moment when making the video.

If you have a more dispersed group doing that will hit more enemies

More enemies hit per ammo used = better

[north sedge]

I still can't believe someone tried to tell me you only killed one crusher in that video, heh

[naive star]

Also looks more pro than just pressing ze button and watching things melt

[ornate bone]

As an Xbox player, why are so many of us so overconfident or so scared to get close and personal? Theres no in between.

[old badger]

bc controller sucks

[ornate bone]

Not for me

[old badger]

And you're either very aware of that or you aren't

[native cargo]

just don't get pounced by dogs

[ornate bone]

For me, playing on controller is more comfortable than a keyboard. But I totally get it if that’s what you grew up with or what not.

[old badger]

not comfortability

I'm talking about capability

[north sedge]

Eh that's just how people are, I've seen many people prior to xbox plinking things from cover with a lasgun as a fucking zealot or something

[ornate bone]

True true, but I feel like the capability comes from the fact you’re on a gaming PC, not the fact you’re playing on a keyboard.

[old badger]

A controller will never be able to match the input potential of a KBM ngl. KBM simply has more control- you can't do some of these nutty moves and plays that people do on a controller

[old badger]

As someone who has used a controller on my gaming pc, this is not true

[ornate bone]

Oh boy, if only I screen recorded more often.

[north sedge]

Mouse and keyboard has more freedom of movement generally in fps

[royal vortex]

i love noticing someone is playing on xbox because you catch them in a moment of downtime turning very slowly

[ornate bone]

You wouldn’t be adjusted properly to controller since u usually play with a keyboard tho, right?

[old badger]

nah

I grew up on xbox

[ornate bone]

Fr? Me too.

[old badger]

I didn't start playing pcs until my teens

[native cargo]

I've seen some good xbox players

errr console idk if darktide is on ps

[ornate bone]

How long was it you switched to PC @old badger ?

[native cargo]

Anyways my point is:

[old badger]

I have probably 2000 hours or more on civilization revolution from a period where my family was rough financially and we didn't rlly have internet

[native cargo]

I got kidnapped in the mourningstar by console players and went on a hi int shock extravaganza with them

[old badger]

I mained xbox for probably 15-16 years

[surreal marlin]

buy frm melk/

/>?

[native cargo]

They were actually good at the game. I will never see them again

[old badger]

wami remember that psyker in the last match

[ornate bone]

FR THO idk why the default setting for console is very unsensetive.

[native cargo]

The only time I ever got kidnapped in the mourningstar for aurics

[native cargo]

yuh

[old badger]

I think he was somehow worse than the bots

[native cargo]

Some players do struggle

[ornate bone]

FUCK Psykers.

[native cargo]

He had horde clear potential but

dude just didn't know when to pull out the melee

[old badger]

bro was running brain burst and trauma staff

[old badger]

he didn't really lol

[surreal marlin]

this good?

[ornate bone]

I don’t care if he was on Xbox or PC, FUCK PSYKERS. Hang the witch now!

[native cargo]

trauma staff is pretty good at horde clear

[old badger]

About the best he could do was his trauma secondary to make the horde clearing easier for us

[old badger]

I've never gotten it to be good at horde clearing, just not enough dmg output

[ornate bone]

Absolutely!

[native cargo]

Granted I have a crusher so horde clear was already like

[placid fiber]

Gotta love the 250 assassination missions portrait's description, am I right? lol

[native cargo]

poggers

[surreal marlin]

bleed good with rampage?

[native cargo]

Tier 2 rampage is...ehhh. I would swap out bloodletter for something else though

the perks are eh as well

[ornate bone]

Yeah, it seems good. I don’t doubt higher and mightier players than I have better suggestions, but I’d keep it. @native cargo what’s ur take?

[surreal marlin]

but u can rerollll both perks

[native cargo]

You can but you can only reroll two things at once including blessings

[surreal marlin]

look here ths is my current 1

[native cargo]

Thats actually pretty good already. pen is lacking but the perks, and blessings are fine

[zealous seal]

Trauma Staff, Brain Burst, Venting Shriek, Warp Siphon. Spam Trauma on everything. Shriek hordes and groups of shooters away. Brain Burst anything out of Trauma range. Probably my favorite way to play Psyker.

[old badger]

psyker is boring to me after trying zealot

and veteran is boring to me after trying psyker lmfao

[surreal marlin]

zealoot just pumps

[ornate bone]

#psyker-class

[polar nexus]

while ogryn just dumps

[old badger]

Psyker is mostly boring to me because mine is slow as fuck and bc I mostly use it for sheer crowd control potential, so standing there and shooting lightning for 20 seconds gets boring

[ornate bone]

Fr tho it puts the game on baby mode

[surreal marlin]

assail is fun wiith surge staff

[polar nexus]

psylot is peak zealot lol

[native cargo]

For the mk15 or whatever evis usually you want rampage for a blessing, something else for the other blessing then the perks be something like flak/unyielding, maniacs, elites, whatever you wanna kill faster. Flak is one I typically want because there are a lot of enemies that spawn that have flak as their armor

[surreal marlin]

u just pewpew alll specials and then take out tanky bois and bosses with surge

[old badger]

i cant bring myself to like assail

[surreal marlin]

then u vent and repeat

[old badger]

it just feels so weak

[hybrid gull]

what are the meta guns rn

[zealous seal]

I started Psyker then Veteran and just leveled my Zealot now I'm already considering starting an Ogryn. To me, all the classes have so many options I haven't gotten bored of any of them yet.

[ornate bone]

Opposites attract

[surreal marlin]

its for hoounds and specials and weaker enemies brother

its actuallly fantastic for horde cleariing too tbh

assaiil wipes hordes out

[old badger]

not your brother but yeah even against those it feels weak

[surreal marlin]

like fuckin kungpoow kachows em

[old badger]

It took me 2-3 of them to take a hound out

[ornate bone]

Every class is boring to me after running zealot. I miss grinding zealot. 😔

[old badger]

where my surge staff takes 1 hit with the secondary

[north sedge]

The fuck are you smoking

[native cargo]

I played vet for a bit then realized zealot is better >w>

[old badger]

nothing unfortunately

[ornate bone]

Ssshhhhh…. Amity might piss on you…

[old badger]

assail just didnt do much damage when i used it

i would like it if not for that

[north sedge]

Assail is still strong as hell

[native cargo]

we going back to degen zelchat? lets go?

[zealous seal]

Sign me u- nevermind. Joke to easy.

[old badger]

prolly not the joke to make about me

[warm delta]

Except it locks you out of the best talent you can get on psyker

[old badger]

but go off ig

[ornate bone]

Whyyy?

[old badger]

cuz im a minor

[warm delta]

Psykinetics aura is so good

[ornate bone]

I am too

[quartz owl]

How did U Guys unlock the zealot trousers... IT tells me to health 25% with an ability that doesnt even exist

[surreal marlin]

wht is this

[native cargo]

I'm not a psyker main so I leave the psyker chat to- fucking christ I forgot we have minors in this chat

GO BACK TO THE COAL MINES

[frozen glen]

😐

[old badger]

im also in a committed relationship so no

[ornate bone]

Also I thought you just said “when I was in my teen years” or some shit like 4 minutes ago.

[zealous seal]

Understandable have a nice day.

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[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-lake-dance-alan-wake-alan-wake-2-dancing-gif-3974237960642289333

[old badger]

no, I said I started playing pc in my teens

i never said i wasnt in my teens

[ornate bone]

So am I. What’s your point here, varlet?

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/alan-wake-jazz-dance-alan-wake-2-dancing-gif-8535943424037028812

[old badger]

My point is that I don't want sex jokes made about me? Not sure what's hard to understand here

[warm delta]

5% cdr for your whole team on elite or special kill

[ornate bone]

Ok. Then just make it clearer what ur saying.

[north sedge]

Holy revenant

[zealous seal]

New response just dropped

[ornate bone]

Imagine a crackhead zealot with shorts lmfao

[vague depot]

yo ngl prison garb go hard

[quartz owl]

That ability doesnt exost in my language

[old badger]

Ability on the left is holy revenant. It lets you become invulnerable for 5 seconds instead of dying. The ability right below it lets you heal from kills during that period

[quartz owl]

They named IT different in the Mission than they did in the tree

[vague depot]

payday 2 swan song but darktide

[warm delta]

God swan song is so good in pd2

[quartz owl]

Wich left one

[frozen glen]

until death is the 5 second invuln

holy rev is the heal

[lusty orbit]

swan song more like lame song

[vague depot]

copy and paste huge rant about how its better to prioritize not going down in the first place

[quartz owl]

Ok thanks imma try these

[old badger]

it saves my ass often

[lusty orbit]

must magdump bulldozer 20 miles away and say slurs when someone doesn’t use inspire on me raaaaagh!!!!

[old badger]

pd2 moment

[vague depot]

oh i forgot i left cause it was getting late did you complete your quest

[zealous seal]

57 page peer reviewed thesis on why it's better to prioritize not going down in the first place.

[old badger]

yeah, I got some others done too

[lusty orbit]

god i am glad i play the opposite of payday 2 nowadays. the opposite is not payday 2 btw, for those curious

[vague depot]

good stuff

[old badger]

I played pd2 as a pyromaniac tank build

Shotgun with flechettes, flamethrower secondary, incendiary nades, the heaviest vest, and kurgan's gas mask

[vague depot]

i was a sweatlord hacker main

[lusty orbit]

suit sociopath was my main build pre-retirement.

[vague depot]

i was unironically carried by pocket ecm

[quartz owl]

I Bet, i Just hate the Translation Most of the time, try looking for an ability that has 2 or 3 different names

[old badger]

i wanted to try a dodge build but never got around to it

"I only gotta hit you once, dexnerd"

[lusty orbit]

the only thing payday 2 has over darktide for me is a lack of hadron. no one sucking out all my plasteel there. too bad it’s payday 2 lmao

[zealous seal]

Counterpoint: Darktide has Hadron. I love Admech.

[old badger]

I still wanna know what she needs all that fucking plasteel for

I made a joke about it the other day

[zealous seal]

Sassy Admech

[lusty orbit]

you. your plasteel. gone.

loser

[vague depot]

the moment i looked at the zealot skill tree i instantly made it a goal to be as similar to vermintide zealot as possible

[lusty orbit]

ah no she doesn’t need that much diamantine

[vague depot]

i wish she would trade some of my diamantine for plasteel dawg

[lusty orbit]

meanwhile she has the whole gdp of yemen’s worth in plasteel

[surreal marlin]

should see my buiilds - my homie fnshes damnation runs wth over 1mil dmg

[lusty orbit]

i just want a higher hand cannon tier you meaniehead

[vague depot]

i wasnt looking for efficiency i was looking for imitation

[surreal marlin]

yes

thats what i have

[vague depot]

but you have a very tempting build

share it with me

[surreal marlin]

my zealot pplays identically to vt2

[vague depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1146605564881809461/1184646265686999130/ahmadmuhsin.gif?ex=658cbacf&is=657a45cf&hm=655f80162dee58c6f33a3d9188c86179b7c1db46f8b1fca3f15dc58352f418a1&

[surreal marlin]

this must be played with a cleave wep - but i use Evis cos it SHITS on hordes, deletes bosses and takes out heavies and specials easily as fuck..

and flame grenade just blasts the fuck out of anything it touches - much better than tthe stun 1 if u are good, this build sorta allows u to solo misson if ur team are bots - u can hard carry and hold ur own..

[vague depot]

sounds good

[surreal marlin]

toughness is regenerated by 1 weapon swing

lol

its absolutely busted fr zealot - i also use the fanning pistol the quick reload 1 - this just obliterattes thiings - if u use ur zealot chastise and dump a full clip into an army of heavies - it will molest them all

[vague depot]

i never did use the hipfire revolver

hows the accuracy on that thing

[surreal marlin]

if ur closeish its very precise

[placid fiber]

Hm, do you guys think my psyker could make use of this revolver? The reload speed isn't too bad for a 2nd perk since you only reload 1 bullet at a time on the revolvers... and only t3 handcannon isn't the worst as well :/

[surreal marlin]

why the fk would u wanna ruin a psyker with a gun?

[vague depot]

so if theres a sniper or flamer in the far distance behind a horde the best i can do is shake my fist at them?

[surreal marlin]

play with a staff

[placid fiber]

Because... revolver cosplay(joking)

[surreal marlin]

chastise and then gun em out

[placid fiber]

1: I kinda want to learn the revolver and 2: I am not great at making use of the staffs that do more stuff(meaning voidstrike and trauma)

[vague depot]

doesnt chastise stop when it hits a body

[surreal marlin]

u will kill em at a reasonable distamce

[muted vale]

what a problem, i like immolation grenade, but not the line leading to it xDD both other seems better, for melee ofc

[surreal marlin]

bro chasttise is like ice skates

its funny

[placid fiber]

I sadly do best with the surge staff, tbh... the other 3 staffs I am mid at best with, if not actually bad or terrible with.

[surreal marlin]

sprint - slide - chastise - nuke em with psitol shots

[vague depot]

fair

[frozen glen]

just play psyker with a gun

[placid fiber]

This is the staff I do best with on my psyker lol

[surreal marlin]

play what u enjoy dude

but surge gets hella boring

[stiff mirage]

experimentation is part of the game

gun psyker can go crazy if played right

[vague depot]

"i wonder what happens if i shoot that glowing body on the ground"

[placid fiber]

Surge might be "boring" but it is easier to use when panicking(I am a panic gamer, so this is actually important info) and I don't mind boring if it means I play effectively and don't cause a wipe for the team >.<'

[surreal marlin]

all classes are really goood

[stiff mirage]

she gets a little mad

[surreal marlin]

then stick wiith surge

its gonna be ur go t

to

[placid fiber]

b-but... I gotta learn the voidstrike staff sometime(even tho I mostly hate that staff)... x.x

[plush shale]

You don't have very important talent

[placid fiber]

The feel is all wrong to me and I don't use it very effectively when I am panicking >.>'

[surreal marlin]

and whats this good sr

[stiff mirage]

when i play psyker w void strike i have assail as my panic button

[surreal marlin]

thats if u are a bad player who cant block and dodge coorrectly

my build is more offensive

[plush shale]

No no

[surreal marlin]

but

must be played with care

[plush shale]

He give immune from ranged and melee stunned

[surreal marlin]

?

[plush shale]

RANGED AND MELEE

[surreal marlin]

space properly

[plush shale]

One sec, need translator

[stiff mirage]

the perk gives you invulnerability to melee and ranged stun?

[surreal marlin]

yeah

just dodge

then u get mroe dmg from other talents

[plush shale]

With this talent, ranged attacks do not slow you down, and melee attacks do not stun you.

[surreal marlin]

yes for sure

but if u play properly id prefer dmg > sv cos i have literally no issues staying alive

[plush shale]

You can't deal damage if you're being shot by a reaper.

[surreal marlin]

throw a grenade

chastise him

shoot him

dodge

LOS and hit

many ooptioons

[plush shale]

Too long

[surreal marlin]

i have never had ths problem

[plush shale]

Too long and you can don't have bullets

[surreal marlin]

when i see a reaper hes just ultimately fucked

[plush shale]

3 reapers

[surreal marlin]

chastise special attack left click and he dead

bro i basially soloed the twins on damnation when my whole group died - thats way harder than a lil group of reapers - they get staggered when u hit them

they have no armor and weakspot hits on them is easy

this build allows u to be super aggressive and frontline as much as u can and dont forget- whilst u are owning, we do have team mates taking out other elites

not 1 singular match has any other zealot even come close to my output.

[plush shale]

several reapers behind the crusher gang and a bunch of scabs and this will be painful to implement

But it's my opinion

[ebon holly]

Why is it so hard for me to get the Abyss penance

[plush shale]

What is it?

[ebon holly]

Drop to 0 health then deal damage to get 25% health

[old badger]

i got it earlier, it's pretty easy, just throw yourself at big hordes

are you sure you have the perk lmao

[ebon holly]

I do

Both of them

But nothing seems to work as I get close to 25% but no

[surreal marlin]

the problem with thy wrath be swift is that you would nly go that route if u are having issues staying alive - the loss in dmg from where ever u take the points from is not worth it - when i play zealot - i just gunghoe and fuck everything up. ii want my hits to be impactful - therefore i have built to kill packs quickly - which is why i run fire grenade. this thing is honestly so underated - throw 1 oon a huge spawn and i promise yoou will see things just flop

[north sedge]

Twbs is always worth it

[surreal marlin]

nah

i 1000% disagree

[north sedge]

Yes

[surreal marlin]

noope

play a match with me - ill double ur output and take far less dmg than u

[north sedge]

I 1000000% disagree

[surreal marlin]

sure u cant be stunned

but like are u bad at spacing and blocking attacks?

and 15% movement - really - u wanna sacrifice output for that.

[fading vale]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[north sedge]

Who takes twbs for movespeed

You take it for the melee and ranged stun immunity

[sterile schooner]

||Immo nades being underrated

[fading vale]

who said anything about fire nades

[surreal marlin]

read the fkn talent

[subtle cedar]

while i agree you have to give up some damage for TWBS... you don't need literally every damage buff on the tree and for the most part it won't change your actual damage much at all because it wouldn't change your breakpoints

[plush shale]

Which weapon you use?

[subtle cedar]

yeah so that's a lie

[fading vale]

learn how the game actually fucking works

[plush shale]

Ranged too, it's wrong description

[sterile schooner]

Fire nade comment here

[subtle cedar]

it affects -everything-

[subtle cedar]

always has rofl

[surreal marlin]

u disagree that the fire nade does more dmg?

did u wake up and bang ur head?

[plush shale]

Why you need fire grenade if evic kill horde too?

[subtle cedar]

no, but like, why bring up fire nade?

it's good

but so is stun

[surreal marlin]

nades are not just for hordes

[subtle cedar]

different schtuff