This is my build
#zealot-class
north sedge
lean lark
Hold on
lean lark
native cargo
lean lark
here you go
south folio
disdain is the one that works on every other attack right
lean lark
that hits enemies yes
ripe quest
I can't imagine it does, unless one of the buffs Judgement provides also has an unlisted link to pullout speed.
lean lark
it synergizes with momentum very well
ripe quest
Does attack speed do that? mmmm
lean lark
I can't imagine it does, unless one of the buffs Judgement provides also has an ...
I'd expect it to since attack speed just seems to be an animation speed increase
which would then increase your attack speed
it really feels like that's how it functions
remote valley
Any of you guys also have PTSD from silent trappers catching you lacking?
ornate bone
lmao
ornate bone
good balance seem aight too tbh
lean lark
yes but twbs is better
heavy arch
It’s fine
lean lark
you should feel safe if they're trauma
ornate bone
i have a bad feelin about dis run
If the Psykers are gunsykers you’re probably fine. I’ve only had great experiences with gunsykers.
lean lark
shriek smite combo is something alright
ornate bone
ones i get like to get downed all the time
ornate bone
Not mine
minor sage
and die to 3 trash enemies
vague depot
Wdym mines
quaint verge
Wdym mines
Fart mines
ornate bone
Thas bad luck @minor sage ion no 🤷♂️
vague depot
How do I deal with them
quaint verge
Go trigger them and back off, or run on the outer side to run past them
Don't sprint in to them while having low stamina
heavy arch
If you’re super fast you can sprint through and slide out
lean lark
if you get hit by one of them while at zero tough say goodbye to half your health bar, as it's now corrupted
ornate bone
PC players when you’re playing with the style that fits you best and carries your team: 😡😡😡
north sedge
🤔
quaint verge
PC players when you’re playing with the style that fits you best and carries you...
That reminds me of a controller player who accepted burster explosion, after trying to run away from it
ornate bone
That reminds me of a controller player who accepted burster explosion, after try...
Who was it?
quaint verge
Idfk it was a Reddit post shared here
ornate bone
I will admit us controller players SUCK until level 10
heavy arch
After 30 too
lean lark
controller players suck in general because it's controllers and you can play with m&k
just by association
not like being bad
polar nexus
Nice reference there Mankar
heavy arch
how dare these peasants play with us
ornate bone
just by association
Guilty by association when it comes to gaming is bs
minor sage
there's no guilty by association lol
heavy arch
controller is inherently worse than mb+k for fps
polar nexus
Over some shoegaze
covert needle
not just the controller, but the limited fov on consoles
minor sage
m&k gives you more precise inputs and better control
gray ice
are we having the xbox vs. pc debate for the 4900th time now
ornate bone
how dare these peasants play with us
You after fatfingering w and instead of running forward you jerk off into the corner (it’s your ability)
ornate bone
it’s 2024 having this argument is silly
Ik im bored tho
ember yew
are we having the xbox vs. pc debate for the 4900th time now
but xbucks cant use mods, plus with spam attack builds gamepad wont survive for long
ornate bone
but xbucks cant use mods, plus with spam attack builds gamepad wont survive for ...
I don’t use spam attack
covert needle
but xbucks cant use mods, plus with spam attack builds gamepad wont survive for ...
my finger joints wont survive for long on m+k
ember yew
my finger joints wont survive for long on m+k
keep swinging on fullauto saves the day
prisma sigil
but xbucks cant use mods, plus with spam attack builds gamepad wont survive for ...
Spamming axe lights is giving me carpal tunnel
i need an autoclicker or something
quaint verge
are we having the xbox vs. pc debate for the 4900th time now
Do you rather we debate bleed builds? 
prisma sigil
Ye I've just never downloaded one b4
gray ice
Do you rather we debate bleed builds? <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
there's no winning huh
ornate bone
Not enough people use the thunder hammer imo. It’s good for crushers and what-not once you level it up and apply blessings.
prisma sigil
are we having the xbox vs. pc debate for the 4900th time now
there's no debate
this game runs like trash on xbox
prisma sigil
i dont have an xbox its just what my buddy told me
quaint verge
there's no winning huh
native cargo
Let's to way back to launch day and talk about hadron's lovely chasis c:
gray ice
this game runs like trash on xbox
I have multiple friends on series X that claimed it runs fine for them
covert needle
the eyes can only see 2 fps
prisma sigil
then ig thats just my buddy
gray ice
mileage may vary or something, but when I saw it seemed like a stable 60
ornate bone
See that’s the problem. No series s = it has a seizure while next to the omnissiah
prisma sigil
yall still can't play Kenshi though
quaint verge
there's no winning huh
ember yew
if the xbox dont get PTSD from psykers spam and fire effects, then its ok i guess
covert needle
we can hit 3 mil by the end of the month, surely
native cargo
Bleed
left iron
Chord
quaint verge
chordy hammer
native cargo
chord
ripe quest
I'd expect it to since attack speed just seems to be an animation speed increase
Attack speed doesn't affect pullout speed.
ornate bone
Hanmer
ornate bone
Ion no
ripe quest
Attack speed doesn't affect pullout speed.
Pullout benchmark for Boltgun with 0% was 1.49, with 40% it was 1.45. The difference was from framerate.
ornate bone
If ur a thunder hammer zealot main bleed isn’t needed
prisma sigil
what's wrong with bleed
covert needle
Pullout benchmark for Boltgun with 0% was 1.49, with 40% it was 1.45. The differ...
it's 2020, i can't believe video games are still like that
ripe quest
wdym
native cargo
If ur a thunder hammer zealot main bleed isn’t needed
You need scourge for thammer 
covert needle
action speed tied to framerate. in some games you get like 30% more dps from uncapping your fps
misty raven
action speed tied to framerate. in some games you get like 30% more dps from unc...
Or double weapon durability loss in Dark Souls 2
ripe quest
Oh no, the difference was because the capture software I used was low framerate, so the fine 0.04 seconds wasn't accurately recorded.
covert needle
fair enough
gray ice
Or double weapon durability loss in Dark Souls 2
ey man my santier's spear never broke faster
native cargo
I love double weapon durability loss.
ripe quest
In Lethal Company you jump higher if your framerate is lower.
native cargo
It didn't break mid fight after I forgor to sit at a bonfire
covert needle
In Lethal Company you jump higher if your framerate is lower.
i played an mmo where you could do more damage at higher framerates, but get more iframes and cover more distance if you used your mobility skills while limiting it
quaint verge
https://tenor.com/view/panicking-gif-22262539
covert needle
completely bogged
native cargo
So in the things betwixt in ds2 if you wanted to bypass a stone statue you had to lower your fps to somehow leap your way over a ledge you can't do on higher fps to skip using a fragrant branch of yore
Gotta love them fps
gray ice
So in the things betwixt in ds2 if you wanted to bypass a stone statue you had t...
or I could just use the fragrant branch cuz im not about to spend 15 mins for such a disposable item
ornate bone
Games teach us that if the frequency of light changes, we can alter physics
covert blade
ember yew
i played an mmo where you could do more damage at higher framerates, but get mor...
i think you can still oneshot bosses in RE2 remake with 300-400 FPS, since knife DPS is tied to FPS
covert blade
Closer to perfection bois
native cargo
or I could just use the fragrant branch cuz im not about to spend 15 mins for su...
Noh gotta do the more complicated way of dropping items to increase lag on a 60 fps version of the game so you can leap over a small hump
ornate bone
If the frequency of light is too high in Skyrim, you can catapult yourself off of random objects and any location is the large hadron collider
spare dome
Man I've been using Disdain for a long time.
And I never fucking noticed it only procs off every other swing
Unbelievable lmao
ornate bone
what's wrong with bleed
Nothing, but if you got thunder hammer, you don’t need it.
It’s like dipping a missile in poison.
Wait, I thought you could proc disdain hit after hit
Like getting 1 stack as long as you keep hitting
Mmm… missile 😋
spare dome
Now I have a talent point to play with at least
And nope
You swing, it stacks up. You swing again, it expends the stacks.
It's two separate actions lol
Quite goofy
ripe quest
Unbelievable lmao
dw it's effectively a 12.5% damage buff to crowd clear
totally not misleading
Though it has an interesting interaction with weapons that use an H1 L2 combo. If you can offset it the light will setup the heavy for the damage. way too much effort for a random talent though.
ripe quest
I wouldn't mind it if they just actually labeled it properly. I do think though that it being a "lights store a 5% damage buff for your next heavy attack"
would be fun
spare dome
easy fix just double the damage /s
ripe quest
rn Disdain is literally just Sustained Assault but worse
median steeple
I open up the darkride reddit and I see a PSA about dogs and wonder what it's about
ripe quest
just like 
median steeple
Open it to see the most basic info about how to deal with dogs
spare dome
It's less basic than you think for most.
ripe quest
A lot of basic knowledge that we have is like, completely unknown for people who don't guzzle insider info about this game
spare dome
People sometimes overvalue killing the hound to the point that they don't prioritize pushing them off on any level. It's not an uncommon mistake.
So they'll leave you to get monched for way too long.
median steeple
??? Shoot the dog is THE basic info you should have
It's literally the most obvious solution
covert needle
until yesterday i didn't know you could push dogs, i just thought you got vacuumed into their jump after dodging away from them no matter what, or they do their lil L-shaped jump trajectory at you from down a hallway
spare dome
Yes but if you're preoccupied for killing it, you'll be prioritizing something else. If you don't know that just pushing it is sufficient then you won't try to do the much easier task of just that push
median steeple
They used to have the vacuum hitbox for the longest time
covert needle
im considering just disconnecting from the servers i ping 60 to, they have like 200-300ms server response time
gray ice
intercontinental ballistic dogs my beloved
ripe quest
until yesterday i didn't know you could push dogs, i just thought you got vacuum...
You can duck under them still, pushes, dodges, even killing them midair.
median steeple
I miss tracking maulers
ripe quest
I think Ogryn can also taunt them midair and it just instakills them
median steeple
That shit was so funny
Pretty sure stopping any enemy that flies at you mid air kills them
median steeple
It can happen with chaos spawn
covert needle
i killed one earlier today and im not sure what happened to it after but it rained from the ceiling
median steeple
As per usual
covert needle
is that still a thing?
fleet zealot
my zealot arm warmers came in today
median steeple
Better gaming performance inbound
sharp zodiac
Can I see them
covert needle
is that anything like programming socks?
dusky portal
Zealots I have a question, eviscerator overrated or skill issue?
solar gorge
i love bullying elites with the heavy sword special
sharp zodiac
Zealots I have a question, eviscerator overrated or skill issue?
Both
clear knot
Zealots I have a question, eviscerator overrated or skill issue?
neither. its just a decent/good weap
covert needle
anything can suck if you're not feelin it
clear knot
and some ppl act like you need a handbook to use it, (you dont)
ripe quest
Zealots I have a question, eviscerator overrated or skill issue?
It's fairly leveled in terms of balance.
median steeple
Hmmm I love light heavy light heavy
ripe quest
I remember Contra's wall of text on how to use Evis
median steeple
dusky portal
I remember it differently because now it just feels like it stops every cleave to just buzz (1) guy
And by the time I rev the chain to do a big ole heavy attack someone just kills the ogryn/elite in that time
ripe quest
depends on what your cleave is at and what you're hitting. Evis has a 3x hitmass mod for Maniac and a 0.75x one for Flak
dusky portal
Probably the flak that’s stopping it
ripe quest
yee if you don't have SS or Wrath up you'll catch on some elites and just kill them.
dusky portal
Maybe I’m just spoiled from my power sword
buoyant pecan
I remember Contra's wall of text on how to use Evis
Who will teach us how to H1 QQ now
ripe quest
Only way to not catch on Crushers is with Perfect Strike
covert needle
And by the time I rev the chain to do a big ole heavy attack someone just kills ...
main thing stopping me from using chain weps
ripe quest
Who will teach us how to H1 QQ now
Those ways are older than me. It's H1 L2 block cancel now.
covert needle
didn't they make it so most of the damage is on the last tick, also?
solar gorge
i love catching that one rager in the middle of 15 poxwalker
solar gorge
mk2 evis reved up heavy is peak
dusky portal
Just wondering if there’s something better for just general left right cleave
true kindle
what's up zelchat
ripe quest
And by the time I rev the chain to do a big ole heavy attack someone just kills ...
A thing that helps is just timing. If you're playing with a player that has a ranged elite nuker the Ogryns are probs gonna die by the time you get to them unless they pop up close to the team.
median steeple
Like I don't even need to try
ripe quest
Fury of the Faithful can help with that a bit, but it's just something you learn a bit over time
median steeple
what's up zelchat
Hi Hank how has your day been
true kindle
my day has been long but good
north sedge
what's up zelchat
dusky portal
Yeah 9/10 I just use ol reliable to quick one shot elites and stuff and don’t bother with the chain sword
true kindle
bought a house, lot of work to do
median steeple
Sounds awesome
dusky portal
Hell yeah hank
ornate bone
is melk gacha still trash
true kindle
yes
that said
pretty good way to bruteforce curios on a fresh lvl 30 char if you have a stash of melkbucks
since curios are easy to craft as long as you have good base stats and 1 useful perk
ripe quest
is melk gacha still trash
People use it to spam buy curios sometimes, but it's better early on to use the Milk Coins for T4 blessings and the rare occasional good weapon roll.
ornate bone
yep been waiting for good blessing - wep for a long time now
got revolver with gud blessing now i just need good revolver tho
ripe quest
I was blessed with a god roll 540 Chaxe like 6 months ago so I haven't ever cared about weapon rolls lol
solar gorge
spam brunt for base
with the tri-billion dockets you have that have no usage besides spamming brunt
ornate bone
probly spent like 600k+ on thammer without gettin good rolls
fleet zealot
solar gorge
first roll of my road to good evis and it was a 379 base
dense field
Roll like 10 of them and then turn them blue
north sedge
my first god roll was getting people to think i was a knife main back in the day then would show them my hammer zealot
heavy arch
it’s just a prank bro
ripe quest
my first god roll was getting people to think i was a knife main back in the day...
For the longest time my best roll was a Mercy Killer/Lacerate knife
I used the shit out of it
ripe quest
I was an avid bleed knife user for like a month
solar gorge
i played like 300 hours with a dogshit Bull's Butcher cleaver, but it didn't matter because it had slaughtered 4
summer moth
ayyo can devil claw parry crusher overheads or naw
sharp zodiac
I was an avid bleed knife user for like a month
I was a bleed knife for 1/2 month
sharp zodiac
ayyo can devil claw parry crusher overheads or naw
Yes
But you will lose your stamina
summer moth
making my crusher parry build with +9 stamina from curios…
ripe quest
It's very tight on the overheads
They have some thing where the window is based on the damage of the attack
I guess
Crab would 100% know
north sedge
i used to roll into here and say "ya'll sleeping on knife" and alot of people took me seriously, it was beautiful
300ms
is pretty generous
summer moth
that’s a big window feels like
ripe quest
Yeah it's just down to consistency. You get pretty good at it after a little bit
fleet zealot
300ms
heavy arch
sup
summer moth
bing chillin over here lad
heavy arch
do you play with Rikki and van
willow vale
sage river
Zealot's legendary armor challenges are the hardest because there's pretty much no way around doing them as intended right?
gray ice
I mean none of them are particularly hard
sage river
Like with psyker, you can do that one challenge by having an ogryn tank while you spam bb, veteran can just unload their revolver into a horde, and ogryns just dont have that hard of a challenge to begin with
sage river
I mean none of them are particularly hard
Thats fair, I just find the others would be a whole lot easier to do since you can cheese almost every single one
summer moth
i have been at 39/40 stunned enemies for months
sage river
These are the ones for the torsos btw the legs arent that bad
gray ice
I wouldn't say having an ogryn tank the monstro is "cheese" it's really just a strat to make it easier. Likewise with doing the flesh wound one there's ways to make that even easier than it already is
sage river
northe helmets
sharp zodiac
That would've been even funnier if you walked to it and it managed to pounce you at that speed
gray ice
realistically the hardest bar to clear for zealot one is that it's a private game 
, you could duo it
sage river
I wouldn't say having an ogryn tank the monstro is "cheese" it's really just a s...
I think the lack of possibility in just "doing" that is pretty bad
sage river
realistically the hardest bar to clear for zealot one is that it's a private gam...
I forgot about player scaling since theres always 4 in pubs lmao
The real difficulty is having friends to be in a private game with
gray ice
Well, I'll put it like this. Once upon a time you could complete all of these in pubs. If all your teammates agreed to not dmg the boss, you could do the psyker one without too much issue
queen tangle
yayy 
ornate bone
thammer feel like a cheat wep
2 shot dh and plague ogryn etc
i dont even have thrust on it
royal vortex
Well, I'll put it like this. Once upon a time you could complete all of these in...
i did it with a shieldgryn in a pub
sage river
Well, I'll put it like this. Once upon a time you could complete all of these in...
Oh I know you could, I was there
royal vortex
took 2 dhs
normal wren
thammer feel like a cheat wep
Eviscerator is even scarier
ornate bone
- worse
sage river
Ive played since a few months after launch, waiting for the game to at least work a little bit
ripe quest
I wouldn't say having an ogryn tank the monstro is "cheese" it's really just a s...
You can literally just do tank Martyr and vibe
normal wren
ornate bone
idunno about u but when i use it i barely do dmg with that shit compared to hammer
sharp zodiac
/killing the ogryn is much more dangerous
normal wren
You using the revvv
ripe quest
Thammer will outdamage Evis for Unyielding boss damage yeah
The Mk XV has the best Unyielding damage of the chain weapons though
gray ice
i did it with a shieldgryn in a pub
least you found a use for shieldgryn back then
gray ice
You can literally just do tank Martyr and vibe
yuh, none of them are particularly hard, mostly just tedious
e.g. "teach zealots the entirely wrong way to use stuns penance"
meager turret
Just chuck it at a random horde :)
gray ice
i see no way this could backfire later
meager turret
I usually prefer my cooldown reduction to come to me instead of dancing in place
sage river
Yall dont just avoid using the grenades to begin with because "you might need them soon"?
ripe quest
e.g. "teach zealots the entirely wrong way to use stuns penance"
dw guys I can stun that sniper so the patrol is easier to deal with
north sedge
I just use em unless i know there's some fucked up spot coming
ripe quest
I only ever keep the last one for easy revives
heavy arch
First two nades are for throwing Willy nilly
sage river
Thats the rule, literally just waste every grenade that isnt your last
ripe quest
also they added even more shit to weapon customization
gray ice
also they added even more shit to weapon customization
i always wanted an m249
solar gorge
also they added even more shit to weapon customization
firing dwarf bullets
visual stream
dw guys I can stun that sniper so the patrol is easier to deal with
Don't both stun nade penances definitely teach the wrong way to use them?
As we all know, the only uses for six whole seconds of stuns are to kill already easy to kill trash mobs... or to stun a sniper 
ornate bone
Yeah, it's a bit odd
frosty herald
at launch this would be a wipe
ornate bone
I kinda get the poxwalker one, but eventually people stop being afraid of them and see them as a toughness farm
gray ice
at launch this would be a wipe
them shotgunners were built different
they don't know man
ornate bone
u barely got to move forward in that place
maybe a flamethrower cud be better in auric
flamer + thammer
native cargo
We haven't gotten vets that have a degree in engineering
At least thats my thought process
coarse birch
i havent liked flamer hammer ever since hammers horde clear was made useable but its still a good combo
dense packs of elites can be rough with hammer esp ragers since you have to special to do any real damage
cause heavies just tickle them
median steeple
it used to be rough in the tide trenches
fear the shotgunner kick
fear the mauler tracking
fear the old blood
north sedge
flamer is good for scab melee and twins, otherwise i dont touch
ornate bone
went inside train thingie to pick up a diamantine once
bad idea in auric damnation that was
suddenly 4 maulers on each side
coarse birch
im pretty sure some plasteel is coded to just be a trap
blazing fossil
plasteel worth tho
coarse birch
and you turn around and get cornered alone cause you team never looks for plasteel
buoyant pecan
https://tenor.com/view/locked-in-locked-in-here-with-me-locked-up-in-jail-gif-12...
Before the Shotgunner nerfs back in March and feb
median steeple
god some enemies were bosses unto themselves
we need some of that back ngl
I miss goofy broken shit like that
buoyant pecan
Dreg shotgunners were the true Champions of Nurgle
median steeple
thats why wolfer is bowing down to them in the intro cutscene
buoyant pecan
He greeted Nurgle's Chosen
coarse birch
shotgunners could def use a buff they like dont do anything unless you get blasted by 8 at the same time
south folio
yeah i'd rather not shotgunner spam be the way to make them strong
and get fuckin pingponged
sharp zodiac
Make them send you to the fucking moon with enough knockback
azure mortar
frosty herald
if you turned a corner and you saw 3 shotgunners you knew it was over
azure mortar
you're not the only ones nostalgia jerking apparently
azure mortar
if you turned a corner and you saw 3 shotgunners you knew it was over
or played comms plex when the game spawned grapes of 3 shotgunners
coarse birch
Make them send you to the fucking moon with enough knockback
plz no
coarse birch
dont you run TWBS anyway
sharp zodiac
FUCK
coarse birch
i wouldnt mind that if they made ranged knockback less obnoxious for the sake of being obnoxious
south folio
i get that they don't want players holding W into ranged patrols
but reapers having full knockback strength even when they're like 30m away from you is ridiculous
coarse birch
you can make me stagger or some shit for mistiming my slide
south folio
and it's impossible to get out of a corner if there's more than 2 shooting at you even from a distance
coarse birch
even stagger can be argued as annoying but ill take it over knockback
reapers are the worst about it yeah
south folio
i'm fine with a little knockback if they want to prevent players from holding W
coarse birch
its actually just a invisible wall
south folio
but that shit needs to be tuned down
coarse birch
yeah ig if it was less egregious knockback
its strong enough knock back to put you in really dumb situations with the stuff around you too
i do agree you shouldnt be able to just run into ranged patrols though
south folio
another case of annoying knockback is from the dog pounce, which seems to still persist
i had a recent game where I just got launched into a pool of fire and a chaos spawn
and was subsequently rumbled and tumbled
and that really peeved the hell out of me to just instantly die to an edge case like that
coarse birch
thats been tuned down in my exp but i also dont play hunting grounds a ton
it might just be luck
south folio
god watches unkindly upon you mankar
coarse birch
maybe i just havent gotten killed by it in a while then
and so i didnt notice it as much recently
vocal pulsar
god watches unkindly upon you mankar
my gods of logic and reason will smite you and your god
coarse birch
but that shit was the main reason i stopped playing hounds
its already a gimmicky thing and then i just get bounced around
assuming we dont just columnus them instantly or something
south folio
might as well just make a reapers, dogs, and shotgunners-only mode and call it ping pong
coarse birch
dont give them ideas
south folio
my hatred shall fill this world
coarse birch
i may be slightly biased cause im super melee heavy
arco i know for a fact they would release that you would play it and then complain about how dumb ranged knockback is
in chat
south folio
as i lay dying on the ground
coarse birch
"who tf asked for this"
south folio
and anyone who tries to pick me up gets knocked out of range each time
lean lark
maybe it's a sign
coarse birch
i would say it might be designed to make you use ranged more or cover but like
one they made a whole mechanic for shutting down shooters in melee
and 2 cover doesnt work
and 3 suppression exists
south folio
yup
and the fact that suppression is also inequally applied to guns
so you have some favorite children among the guns for fighting ranged patrols w/o taking suppression immunity
and hipfire weapons
coarse birch
i actually have been using braced autoguns a ton cause i can just slide into shooters with that
north sedge
i love bringing a child to a gun fight
coarse birch
and its way less frustrating than doing it im melee at longer ranges
coarse birch
i got it
south folio
oh my god
royal vortex
i actually have been using braced autoguns a ton cause i can just slide into sho...
based and columnuspilled
south folio
you are too old for discord
north sedge
south folio
go out
sharp zodiac
Like using your child to hit a rabid beaver
coarse birch
josho did you do a HISTG solo
i forget
i knew a few people did it here but i forget who
north sedge
Can't keep up with me youngin
royal vortex
i did a hi5 solo with the knife meme
left iron
Goddamn zoomers
royal vortex
i dont really bother with solos cuz it makes dt really boring
delicate shadow
buying a co-op game to play it alone
vocal pulsar
i dont find solos that interesting
royal vortex
the last time i tried i realized i forgot how to solo a boss
i think peak "challenge" content for me is duos cuz u have someone else to play w/ and u have to think harder
vocal pulsar
solo clutching is more interesting, because it happens on the spot, and you have 3 eyes upon you
coarse birch
i imagined it being more fun honestly
vocal pulsar
i think peak "challenge" content for me is duos cuz u have someone else to play ...
josho? thinking? that'll be the day...
coarse birch
but i just kite around a room for 20 minutes
tardy thicket
what blessings for the chaxe?
south folio
the other problem that I didn't foresee with solos is looting
vocal pulsar
what blessings for the chaxe?
which chaxe
tardy thicket
XII
vocal pulsar
new chaxe should have thrust and headtaker, imo
coarse birch
yeah
vocal pulsar
and elite + carapace damage
coarse birch
slaught works in place of headtaker
vocal pulsar
for perks
royal vortex
i also feel like solos in this game make the combat break down a lot
vocal pulsar
thrust + elite and carapace damage = one shotting every enemy in the game (including crushers), except bosses WITHOUT chastise
royal vortex
ranged enemies feel weird when ur the only guy alive and i still think theres some comedy where snipers get WORSE to dodge on low ping/self hosting
lean lark
yeah you have better timing it feels like
royal vortex
the lag comp is super generous
lean lark
you need to have*
in reality the dodge window is like
At the end of the ching sound before the shot
swift certainty dodges*
coarse birch
i usually try and do it with the sound cue yeah
jaunty lava
Here's another challenge for solos : the new mission
lean lark
standing still -> tap shift +w at the end of the sniper shot cue -> 0 dmg taken
maiden path
where my mgs3 fans at
lean lark
bricked due to perfect strike but replace rampage with ht and use it until you get a better hsword
ht + deathblow is the bis
native cargo
Perfect strike is meta smh
tardy thicket
aight
coarse birch
its usable just not perfect
coarse birch
oh fair
didnt even think about that
tbh
with Hswords crazy high base maniac damage
coarse birch
and can kill multiple in a swing
heavy arch
Pump up overkill stat to show the director ur his bitch
lean lark
my overkill never drops below a 1:1 ratio
and if it does its because I was allowed to torch the entire map with immolation nades
heavy arch
throw more at me I double pox hound dare you Mr director
gray ice
my overkill never drops below a 1:1 ratio
fuckin wasting dmg how dare you
coarse birch
what are even the best perks on bolter now
ripe quest
You aren't doing it right unless your damage is matched with 5x the overkill damage
thorn mango
Does anyone know if there's a niche that the mk13g chainsword fills that the mk4 doesn't? Just looking at its chains and push attack, it feels like the mk4 is both more convenient and more versatile at the same time.
blazing fossil
https://tenor.com/view/world-war-z-zombies-crazed-rushing-insane-hurry-gif-26776...
stores in America on Black Friday
ripe quest
Does anyone know if there's a niche that the mk13g chainsword fills that the mk4...
Mk XIIIg has better light spam for crowds and the heavies have very good single target damage. The rev also does more damage. The Mk IV only has crowd damage over the XIIIg with it's heavies.
The H3 on the XIIIg is the same as the H1 and 2 on the IV to add. iirc the combo is like, light x2 or 3 and H3 and it'll put out similar damage.
Both are insanely good at crowds to begin with, both with theoretical 50x fodder clear times under 6 seconds.
lean lark
what are even the best perks on bolter now
if you're using bolter for armored enemies, flak cara
If you're using bolter for bosses, flak unyielding
If you're using bolter for stuff in general, maniac and elites/flak
coarse birch
if you're using bolter for armored enemies, flak cara
If you're using bolter for...
ty realized i had this from forever ago and wasnt sure what to do with it
sadly stuck with shattering
post nerf
sage river
Should I pick this up?
Lacks mobility, shredder is fine but not as good as I think it needs to be
ripe quest
Shattering Impact is still fine, only nerf to it was it requiring 4 shots for max stacks instead of 2.
gray ice
Should I pick this up?
i mean you could
ripe quest
The scope of it's effectiveness is now on stuff with higher HP pools.
sage river
Eh, I doubt Ill get a better one rolling for it so I might as well
gray ice
whats wrong with this
A) HH 9 
B) dmg dump on 380
coarse birch
A) HH 9 <:MavCringe:739505974104162455>
B) dmg dump on 380
is the difference between 75ish and 68 big for that gun? ik on some stuff its not huge
ripe quest
SI Pinning should be fine for bosses. Cavalcade + Pinning/SI would probs be the best bet but 🤷
gray ice
is the difference between 75ish and 68 big for that gun? ik on some stuff its no...
it's not that large I'm just a maniac with the nerve to be picky in this stupid system
thorn mango
Mk XIIIg has better light spam for crowds and the heavies have very good single ...
Okay, thank you for the response. I'll take another look at the MK13g.
Also, does the thrust on the MK4 have any special properties?
gray ice
if it wasn't a 9 I'd probably take it
coarse birch
yeah idk about the 9 i have used it maybe once
lean lark
If I recall correctly unyielding counts for rending so it takes a tiny bit more dmg with si
cavalcade pf is the best for pure boss killing
might be best for crusher packs but you're betting on rng to not fuck you over so I wouldn't do that
sage river
Okay, thank you for the response. I'll take another look at the MK13g.
Also, ...
Not typically cleaving through as many enemies as a slash would
tame mirage
uncut steeple
hes got those big heelies on man
hushed knoll
if it wasn't a 9 I'd probably take it
How do you feel about pad thai and barbecue sauce
fading vale
gray ice
How do you feel about pad thai and barbecue sauce
You are confounding
hushed knoll
Laz you weren't meant to see this
next trench
too bad this weapon is not that great
hushed knoll
You are confounding
Does that mean I am mysterious and sexy
left iron
hushed knoll
HI FINNLAIDUCYE LYFE SHEETS 
hushed knoll
I have to be careful when I type it cuz I know my phone won't save me
flint mason
rate by big sword roll
fading vale
it's alright
flint mason
what should I swap out
fading vale
well you want rampage, so id swap bloodletter off, most people don't usually run savage on it but it's not terrible
ripe quest
Okay, thank you for the response. I'll take another look at the MK13g.
Also, ...
The chainswords don't get Thrust, do you mean the Mk IV Chaxe? The PA on it is just a quick jab. It does the most single target damage of the base attacks if you hit a weakspot.
fading vale
too bad this weapon is not that great
vraks 3 is very good with deadly accurate and headhunter
coarse birch
~~The chainswords don't get Thrust, do you mean the Mk IV Chaxe?~~ The PA on it ...
they might mean the push attack
ripe quest
OH, true
gray ice
Does that mean I am mysterious and sexy
Yes, 100%
fading vale
<:peepohappy2:927333473033785415>
open bramble
Oh man, I just got this:
ripe quest
oooh very nice
gray ice
<:peepohappy2:927333473033785415>
Make sure to tell anyone you like they're confounding
open bramble
I already have a billion well-rolled 9s, but I guess I should learn how to use this one
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-gif-5090756650443962254
I hate Austin Powers so much
hushed knoll
Make sure to tell anyone you like they're confounding
Nice bait 🪤
open bramble
oh, you're a doctor evil stan?
hushed knoll
Who is doctor evil
gray ice
Nice bait 🪤
this is safe punjabi no virus
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-evil-laugh-austin-powers-gif-11634369
Oh I thought this was Austin Powers
hushed knoll
I've never seen the movies
heavy arch
then how can you hate Austin powers
delicate shadow
I see Stanislaw has entered the chat
abstract venture
Staninnislav
fading vale
Train freeze
hushed knoll
then how can you hate Austin powers
Wait is dr evil from austin powers
I thought he was a separate thing
fading vale
hushed knoll
What does that even mean
fading vale
Doctor evil is the villain in Austin powers....
left iron
hushed knoll
You guys are sending me mixed messages
north sedge
Lol
heavy arch
re: smh
fading vale
north sedge
no you take signals and mix them into your smoothie
hushed knoll
fading vale
do you at least know who Mr Freeze is
north sedge
it's still very funny to me that was taken aback by the fact that nobody knew who jim cantore was
aka jum cantorpe
tawny steppe
Alr boys how do i one shot tf out of The deamonhost
drifting wolf
faith
fading vale
hammer + stealth
tawny steppe
Confused how
tawny steppe
hammer + stealth
Cap
hushed knoll
do you at least know who Mr Freeze is
From The Incredibles?
north sedge
Lol
frosty herald
Stan stop
delicate shadow
lmao
fading vale
getting warmer
hushed agate
Mr freeze i know that guy
fading vale
I may or may not have posted a gif of him a minute ago
verbal marlin
I got two questions:
- What're the functional differences between the Zealot heavy swords and the Devil's Claw swords?
- Should I go for +1 Wound for all my trinkets and add in toughness and health bonuses with that? Or should I do only one +1 Wound and then add a Health and Toughness one?
fading vale
So none of those were right?
nope
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/mini-me-pointing-yep-pointing-attitude-mini-me-attitude-g...
This isn't Mr. Freeze
fading vale
I got two questions:
1. What're the functional differences between the Zealot he...
wounds are for martyrdom
you don't run wounds unless you run marty
verbal marlin
Ah ok, it's that specialized, got it.
For now I'll stick with an even spread and get Wound trinkets later on.
hushed agate
Its fine to have one wound penance if you arent confident enough not to get downed
fading vale
hsword is super strong and in general does really high damage, claw is decent but it has a parry
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/cooler-batman-and-robin-mr-freeze-arnold-arnold-schwarzen...
Is this him
fading vale
yes
hushed agate
Yes
hushed knoll
The fuck
hushed agate
Stan do you want me to tell you
hushed knoll
He looks like an emaciated Michelin Man
fading vale
only one of the greatest movies of all time
hushed knoll
Which movie
fading vale
oh also claw is more of a crit oriented weapon than hsword
north sedge
For now I'll stick with an even spread and get Wound trinkets later on.
Do either 3 toughness or 2 toughness 1 hp
fading vale
Which movie
it ends in man
modest light
Hey fellas I haven't checked in a couple patches but anybody know if duelist still bugged?
hushed knoll
it ends in man
Superman?
ripe quest
Hey fellas I haven't checked in a couple patches but anybody know if duelist sti...
It never was.
hushed agate
No we already marked that off
fading vale
duellist has never been bugged, just icon display issues
modest light
Aight cool
violet hornet
Hey fellas I haven't checked in a couple patches but anybody know if duelist sti...
I think it was just the status icon for it that was bugged
fading vale
Batman
hushed knoll
Oh
verbal marlin
Another question:
Which thunderhammer generally has more power, the Crucis or the Ironhelm?
I just unlocked the latter, and one is in the shop- but it has at least a hundred less damage than the Crucis one I bought, despite being about 15 points in gear score difference.
hushed knoll
I thought Batman fought Bane
zinc talon
fading vale
Another question:
Which thunderhammer generally has more power, the Crucis or th...
they are both solid, also several stats go into the final damage, ironhelm is more of a special spam kinda weapon cause it's special has cleave
hushed agate
Wouldn't make much of a difference in combat
fading vale
and crucis special does not have cleave
ripe quest
Another question:
Which thunderhammer generally has more power, the Crucis or th...
The base damage is the same. The H3 on the Ironhelm is a bit different and some of the lights are slightly different, everything else is exactly the same. The special's damage is different though, as seen above.
north sedge
I thought Batman fought Bane
fading vale
yeah crucis special has 25% more damage
north sedge
10
verbal marlin
heavy arch
worth making an iron helm if I already have a decent crucis?
north sedge
Just depends on the flavor you want
heavy arch
don’t think I’ll care much for the special cleave you can just jump
fading vale
ironhelm L1 does less damage and that is what is displayed
north sedge
If you're good with crucis, probably won't be into it
hushed knoll
NO I GOT SMOOTHIE ON MY PILLOW
fading vale
Smooth move
heavy arch
ofc you’d be a messy eater too
hushed knoll
At least it's not my chillow
hushed knoll
ofc you’d be a messy eater too
Can't help if it dribbles out of my mouth
fading vale
uh
hushed agate
Close your mouth
hushed knoll
Sometimes I suck too hard and it comes up the straw too fast lol
heavy arch
aren’t you in your 30s?
delicate shadow
hushed knoll
Until what
north sedge
Stan is 13, 29, and 83 all at once
verbal marlin
ironhelm L1 does less damage and that is what is displayed
But someone else just said the base damage is the same?
I
'm confused
heavy arch
Anyway point is at 29 you should know how to use straws properly. As for until what it’s until the death of your youth
delicate shadow
Stan is the Fibonacci sequence
hushed knoll
I'm in my mid 20s
fading vale
But someone else just said the base damage is the same?
I
it is on most of the moves, not L1 or H3
hushed knoll
Anyway point is at 29 you should know how to use straws properly. As for until w...
30 is still young
heavy arch
LOL
copper hawk
21 years young
north sedge
Stan is the Fibonacci sequence
He's the weirder version of Benjamin button
delicate shadow
old doesn't really start until you're 50+ tbh
flat marsh
I feel old and I'm 25
delicate shadow
well I mean physically, we all become emotional boomers at different rates
hushed knoll
Stan is the Fibonacci sequence
This reminds me of the opposite of abstinence November
verbal marlin
it is on most of the moves, not L1 or H3
Ah, I see. Thank you.
north sedge
What
north sedge
hushed knoll
Why you gotta do me like that
north sedge
You do you like that
hushed knoll
No
flat marsh
This reminds me of the opposite of abstinence November
No shave November?
hushed knoll
No shave November?
No
flat marsh
Every month is no shave with a beard
north sedge
copper hawk
Secretion santa
hushed knoll
😠
north sedge
Secretion santa
Merry dripmas!
flat marsh
Secretion santa
Sounds like a band name tbh
north sedge
😠
(Stan thought i said Wok Hard instead of Walk Hard and said "walk hard didn't make sense")
He also thought it was a spy movie because he's holding a gun on the cover
heavy arch
walk hard is such a banger of a movie
heavy arch
ok u have good taste confirmed
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/correct-mr-bones-thres-hold-kids-skeleton-gif-17856936
The skull would be so much better without the baby head
As previously stated
hushed agate
The skull would be so much better without the baby head
Its a fasion statement
hushed knoll
Its a fasion statement
No 
hushed agate
No <:PeepoRabbitGun:710263323123384370>
Yes
north sedge
The skull would be so much better without the baby head
no uncle mr. bones is beautiful the way he is
stray summit
My lord the new evis feels so sluggish
hushed agate
Run attack speed perk
stray summit
It might be that I'm a leveling zealot and I haven't got my martyrdom stacks yet
north sedge
no it is slower than the other, but it's fine
lyric rain
wat do with this thing
hushed knoll
no uncle mr. bones is beautiful the way he is
Uncle?
gray ice
wat do with this thing
terrifying to deathspitter/fire frenzy
and then congrats you've won
lyric rain
cool cool cool
does it benefit from all the critty critty bless bless
or is that just the agripina
whatever blessing gives crit chance per enemy hit
gray ice
nah, kant isn't really for crit
you can use scattershot on lawbringer though, pairs pretty well
hushed knoll
https://youtu.be/FVZ1Zj_RgeY?si=W8NwyQYq62K6hf3r
Wtf is this
lyric rain
ooh ok thanks,
i wasn't sure about no respite but pairs well with innate stagger ya?
royal vortex
probs do flak/maniac for perks. shattering impact is 2.5% per stack instead of 5% rn but hopefully itll be bugfixed
lyric rain
awesome
it feels really underwhelming tbh
maybe im using it wrong
the fire shell seems weak
lyric rain
how's that
royal vortex
the fire is kind of niche in application, esp since most weapons clear hordes good
north sedge
two shots will down bulwarks and a bunch of the crowd
royal vortex
it goes through bulwark shields/has infinite cleave
its really good for big elite packs or bulwarks
hushed knoll
the fire is kind of niche in application, esp since most weapons clear hordes go...
Daily female that you are not a frog
royal vortex
decent-ish at thinning out a horde
lean lark
Daily female
gray ice
daily female november
lean lark
who would that be
north sedge
a november to reminder
royal vortex
if you're gonna be bigoted at least have the mental fortitude to proofread
hatred against frogkind
hushed knoll
You can't be bigoted against frogs
royal vortex
you are
hushed knoll
I've kissed frogs before
unborn depot
Anyone know off the top of their heads if the first target multiplier applies when hitting only one guy
asking cuz I got a hammer that's sick but meh first target
gray ice
It does
royal vortex
it's always the first enemy hit in a swing regardless of cleave
lean lark
yes
royal vortex
😔
lean lark
yikes
gray ice
your hammers be lookin like mine
heavy arch
which would u run
royal vortex
i spent 3 million on crushers while writing the guide and only got like 5 bases
royal vortex
which would u run
left probs
unborn depot
t4 thrust and better unyeilding damage is big gud
sturdy cypress
fortnite battlepass
covert blade
WHAT THE THRONE
hushed knoll
t4 thrust and better unyeilding damage is big gud
Ur big gud
lean lark
wait I thought tough perk was increase of tough regenerated not delay decrease
warm trellis
only affects passive regen so I guess that's what it's trying to convey
covert blade
its garbage thats what
covert blade
sold that pos already
north sedge
ordos ain't bad if you need money
warm trellis
and yeah it's probably the mod changing the wording
covert blade
yes
north sedge
that was not a pos, with a lil toughness and hp it would have been fine
warm trellis
I wouldn't have sold a rare 17% but lmao
warm trellis
zealot sees ally revive speed, throws it in the trash
polar nexus
Keep either ordos or revive
covert blade
duh?
oak cipher
zealot sees ally revive speed, throws it in the trash
Anything less than 10% revive speed is an affront to the servant of the Emperor, lol
covert blade
just revive them vanilla ez
warm trellis
eh, I guess I am just not as picky when it comes to having bigger main number for me
oak cipher
just revive them vanilla ez
And waste your stum grenades on a guy that thinks he is awesome, yes
hushed agate
No need triple gunner resist to eat bullets
covert blade
1 sniper
warm trellis
ornate bone
wat blessings on revolver?
oak cipher
wat blessings on revolver?
You should check the vet-class chat, it was discussed there yesterday
I belive it was crit rending and something something
ornate bone
yee i have rending one just dont know what 2nd one is
steep burrow
hey guys sorry to bother but how do we feel about the bloodletter and thrust combo on the new chainaxe?
oak cipher
yee i have rending one just dont know what 2nd one is
#veteran-class message Try looking after this post a discussion
north sedge
power blessings for chaxe are gonna perform better
oak cipher
hey guys sorry to bother but how do we feel about the bloodletter and thrust com...
I like the bloodletter, but dont ever use charging heavy attacks
If you expect to bleed out the boss at some point, though in all honesty that is probably not why one would pick a chain weapon
steep burrow
gotcha ok! is slaughterer still one of the ideal blessings or has it changed around a bit?
north sedge
slaughterer or headtaker
steep burrow
sick thanks for the help guys!
zinc talon
you uh
ya don't say
penetration a lil low with this misprint
on further inspection
hushed knoll
The fuck am I looking at
zinc talon
an axe
proper dawn
hushed agate
I wouldn't waste the plasteel
sharp zodiac
This toddler is very persistent about learning about 'a darktide '
south cloak
is this normal?
hushed agate
Toddler?