zealot-class

[silk sail]

well I didn't like running shattering on weapons that has access to it anyway

#veteran-class message

[fading vale]

yeah nobody would know that shattering was nerfed unless you specifically test it or look at the code/have a mod

bolter is great on vet cause it's vet

but pretty mid on zealot

[elfin thorn]

boltgun?

[fading vale]

boltgun aka bolter yes

[heavy arch]

Well well well

Bolter did get buffed

[lean lark]

bolter is a solid pick on zealot if you're running things that the bolter cant do

[silk sail]

it has access to instant pullout tech and fury boost, I'm still having fun with it

[heavy arch]

it’s time to blast

[silk sail]

but yes, it's a bit of a meme on zealot in any case

[elfin thorn]

yeah starting to notice its ups and downs

love how it can hurt though, but i really like the feel of the revolver

i dunno if there's another type yet. i think i talk of la quickdraw

[silk sail]

dance of death is especially fun with it, having a pinpoint hip barrage when the game decides to give you a dodge trigger

[fading vale]

I just don't like it for super dense modes cause I can kill more stuff and have more ammo/flexibility with almost any other weapon, and I have chastise if I need to shoot a crusher anyways. Also fuck it's sway and suppression, so annoying

[hushed knoll]

Hi Laz hope ur having a Gucci day

[fading vale]

Hi Stanley

[elfin thorn]

true the sway and weird recoil thing sure can be rough

nice powerhouse. maybe i will have more fun on veteran

[fading vale]

vet has suppression immunity and stuff so it's much nicer

[elfin thorn]

revolver feels nice but worry i may be more weak to shooter crowds

tho i hate assault rifles lol

[silk sail]

bolter is not really a shooter weapon either

[elfin thorn]

also loosely know what suppression is

[fading vale]

zarona revolver is extremely strong

[elfin thorn]

yeah it ain't but if horizontally spread out slightly salvagable there ig

[sand lance]

I run Zarona Revo on Zealot specifically as an answer to Specials and especially Snipers. Shooter squads burn too much ammo.

Though I do like backstepping, hitting Q to swap to my Revolver, hip-fire a shot and then dive back into the fight. It's fun to use against Ragers that way.

[fading vale]

and for ranged packs zealots tend to dive them or shoot them as approaching with brautos etc

[elfin thorn]

i forgor that revolver can pierce till now though

[olive raven]

Best solution to snipers = throwing knife

[silk sail]

thing is plasma is currently overtuned and outperforms the bolter on vet

[olive raven]

(extreme bias in that statement)

[elfin thorn]

best solution to snipers = loner

[fading vale]

what

[elfin thorn]

(i want to be put down)

[fading vale]

lol

[elfin thorn]

got you in the first half haha

[dusky chasm]

best solution to snipers = just kill em

[elfin thorn]

yeah at least with bolter i would fire as i rush in and go brrr

i have shroudfield tho so i can just do that ig

don't really find myself ulting unless big boy elite or monster/bosses

[fading vale]

do you know about the chastise ranged effect

aka fury of the faithful, which we call chastise

[elfin thorn]

doppler effect but cooler

no but i probably can guess what yer about to say

what a name

god damn

[naive star]

I wanna wave some big clubs that deal also with hordes well, so Ironhelm or Crusher?

[lean lark]

both do the same overall

[fading vale]

it downgrades armor from cara to flak and flak to unarmored for 3 seconds on ranged

[lean lark]

but ironhelm lets you use power hits to cleave through trash enemies

oh wait crusher

i thought it was crucis

@royal vortex this is a question for you

[hushed knoll]

I haven’t played dark ride in a while

[naive star]

Yeah Crucis seems too niche mainly for bonking bosses down for me

[hushed knoll]

I hope I haven’t lost my deadly edge

[fading vale]

there is a crusher guide pinned, crusher can kind of do everything

[hushed knoll]

Dark tide

[elfin thorn]

yeah

[naive star]

Yeah i read it earlier today, but it doesnt go into differences between Ironhelm and Crusher

[elfin thorn]

not sure how, but i had a feeling it had some weird rending effect

wollah

downgrade kink built into an ult

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/bicycle-rider-riding-a-bike-hello-smile-gif-15173609

[fading vale]

ironhelm is just H1 H2 special spam and does not have the ability to deal with multiple elites like a crusher

and struggles more vs rager and mauler packs etc

crusher has a straightforward answer to pretty much everything

[elfin thorn]

praise the aoe stagger

[silk sail]

power cleave is p damn satisfying tho

[elfin thorn]

shame power maul was forgotten

[silk sail]

it has a niche when building for bm

[naive star]

Ok thanks, il shall keep eye on Crushers from now on then

[silk sail]

it does something funky to the explosion damage

[naive star]

I really liked Coghammer in Vermintide 2 with the tanky dwarf

So looking for something similar, that both staggers and damages in equal measures making damage dealing "safe"

[elfin thorn]

shall i interest you in regular axe

[wise fern]

Whats the peek flamer build as of right now? Perks and blessings wise. I know we don't get much skills besides the first middle tree perk

[elfin thorn]

[sharp zodiac]

Quickflame and blaze away for blessings

Perks idk

[north sedge]

Blaze away and whatever, flak elites unyielding

[wise fern]

Thank ya kindly

God Emperor blesseth thee

[fading vale]

second best blessing would be overpressure but it's bugged

so second blessing really doesn't matter

[naive star]

Maybe i should make Crusher + Flamer + Throwing Knives

[sharp zodiac]

They're good synergy

The flamer and knives I never used crusher so I'm not sure

[naive star]

Well ive never used Crusher or Flamer either (outside like 1 mission while leveling) so something to keep things fresh

Think ill try to farm some coins and crank out bunch of Brunt Crushers tonight

[silk sail]

you will feel very at home with the crusher coming from the Coghammer imo

Ironhelm is more of playing dawi drop warpick

[late birch]

The crusher is ridiculously good with the speed change

[elfin thorn]

oh right

i use throwing knives. are those good enough to make my ranged weapon for supression/hordes

or is it still a good idea to take a revolvah

[silk sail]

Flamer Knives is still rather finicky to play around

Can't really go wrong with a revolver

[late birch]

I run crusher, revolver, knives. The Crusher handles crowds and elites alike

[sharp zodiac]

You gotta be very accurate on their heaf and it can be tricky to hit specials/elites in hordes

[wise fern]

Probably our best ranged option right now

I've been wanting to build up a Medic Zealot, pretty much trying for the most uptime on relic, I'd imagine this would be done through crits right?

[polar plover]

does thy wrath be swift apply to gunners/shooters

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah

[covert sonnet]

What’s the best way to use the d claw parry? I only ask because I’m not sure what attacks count as parryable and what is not worth parrying

[steel agate]

Yes and yes

Mostly anything and everything is parriable

Ranging from basic zombie smacks to giant monstrosity melees

[frosty herald]

Even crusher overheads

[covert sonnet]

Can I parry grab-type attacks like dog pounce or a mutant grab?

[frosty herald]

Nah

[steel agate]

No those are sadly grabs

[sharp zodiac]

No

[covert sonnet]

Unfortunate

[sharp zodiac]

But you should still try it

It'd be funny

[steel agate]

They don’t have damage so ur devils claw can’t do it’s thing

[covert sonnet]

Fair enough

[wise fern]

It do, not sure it's intended but it's so strong

[polar plover]

ty ty guys

i thought it did but wanted to make sure

[wise fern]

Gives you ogryn intrinsic ability

Can't be staggered out of actions like auspex or reviving

[north sedge]

It's always been this way, it's intended

[wise fern]

Perk states its only melee attacks but makes you unstaggerable so I don't think it was

[south folio]

prob was once unintended but it seems to be intentional nowadays

e.g., ranged toughness DR existing only in descriptions but not in actual gameplay

and then any description with ranged toughness DR was just changed into global toughness DR

[silk sail]

you use parry mainly on ragers and maybe the occasional plogryn attack

[south folio]

so i expect it to be fixed once a localization pass comes through or something

(even though it's been a year since)

[visual stream]

Are standard Hi-STG 5s weaker than auric Hi-STG 5s? Or just the same thing

[north sedge]

Auric has a hidden tension mod, things spawn more often

[silk sail]

ragers track you through dodge so dodging with parry up should keep you safe through their flurries

and a higher specialist cap

[faint mountain]

how is overpressure bugged?

[wise fern]

Also very possible, I'd imagine whatever value codes for stagger is based off some value that once reaching a breakpoint causes the stagger but the perk sets all incoming stagger value to zero regardless of source

[fading vale]

doesn't effect burn

[wise fern]

I'd say at best its intentionally being left alone so by extension now is intentional

[faint mountain]

So its basically meaningless

[frosty herald]

So fellas

When is fatshark back from vacation

[tender moss]

when

[wise fern]

Thats not a shark nor is it fat

[south folio]

i think special cap is the same between non-auric and auric

at least, i haven't seen commissartyr remark on a difference between

8 for non-hishock and 16 for hishock

[tender moss]

nah its fishe

[wise fern]

Obesefish

[frosty herald]

Anorexic anglerfish

[tender moss]

Scoliosis

[frosty herald]

He will be baked

[sharp zodiac]

George

[stoic harbor]

Does the chain axe crit on multiple targets seperately like the eviscerator? Just curious

[tender moss]

love george

[hearty lily]

Does this ability really make you invulnerable? A Google search gave me some oddly mixed results on whether this works that way or not

[sharp zodiac]

No

[hearty lily]

Dang

[sharp zodiac]

It's just that nothing can really attack you

Say for like beasts of nurgle

[hearty lily]

I was gonna say. It seems the dogs don't get affected because they'll still jump on me

[mystic ether]

Does it stagger snipers outside of its radius?

[sharp zodiac]

No

Because I remember doing it and getting sniped still in an attempt to dodge him

[mystic ether]

If they're already doing the running pounce they'll do it

[north sedge]

all weapons behave like this, crit build is bad for chain axe

[sharp zodiac]

But because of the toughness it won't hurt

[obtuse solstice]

what fire mode should I use onm flamer

[sharp zodiac]

Single for stagger otherwise rapid for hordes

[north sedge]

"brick oven pizza"

[stoic harbor]

Is Crit build really only for daggers?

[mystic ether]

No

[lean lark]

its unkillable

[mystic ether]

You can use plenty of other weapons

[lean lark]

if the chorus is up, you dont die, you gain "unkillable" which is what until death does

[tender moss]

claw sword for example

[mystic ether]

Heavy swords, the new eviscerator if you want, uh, basically any build where you're using something fast enough to blender things

[hearty lily]

Wait a sec. If my Pscyher friend blows up (he's REALLY bad at maintaining his Peril) while in my chorus, will he avoid going down due to invulnerability?

[mystic ether]

No

[fading vale]

crit is for either knife, crit CDR spam with cleave weapon, or for ranged weapon

[hearty lily]

Dammit

[lean lark]

uhhhh not sure but technically yes?

[mystic ether]

Overload is overload
You can't avoid it

[lean lark]

unless psyker's detonate is

unique

[mystic ether]

Nope. When you mess up without a venting source, you blow up

[hearty lily]

Seinna in vermintide could avoid going down when she overheated when she was invincible in the blue bubble so I thought it would be the same

[mystic ether]

Nothing stops it save the shriek ability

And yeah yhays just extraction you're invulnerable there

She doesn't have an overload cancel iirc

[north sedge]

Unchained

[hearty lily]

Damn. Was hoping I could help my friend out at least. I dunno how he's so bad at maintaining Peril

[mystic ether]

Oh yeah

I mean it's a different flow to gameplay

Takes time.

[north sedge]

Have them run venting shriek, it at least helps

[stoic harbor]

Also the vent button overrides everything else

[mystic ether]

Managing the only mechanic in the game that straight downs you is tough

[ripe quest]

I think I've seen that happen before, yeah.

[hearty lily]

I guess. He also attempts to vent in the middle of a fight

[mystic ether]

Save vet with the uh plasma gun

[south folio]

hmmm that

's an interesting case to test

[hearty lily]

You don't build Peril by taking damage right?

[mystic ether]

That's okay. You don't need to completely vent sometimes

[mystic ether]

You can with one talent on the right tree

[ripe quest]

I'll check what the tags are on Chorus to see if it's proper invuln or just some weird other thing

[fading vale]

I think it's just you can't go below 1 HP from damage but not sure

[mystic ether]

Unless there's an interaction I'm not aware of I've been getting back into psyker kinda heavy again. Main thing is, if you ever actually pop a spell after you're already at 100% you're triggering the explosion. Venting shriek is the only thing in the game that I know of that prevents that from happening since you can actually trigger the self destruct animation without completing it.

[ripe quest]

Chorus gives Resist_Death, same as Until Death.

Also here's that math

[fading vale]

so yeah, 1 HP

[south folio]

hmm instakill

[ripe quest]

if will_die then
dont()

[minor sage]

if has_buff and not instakill

p sure explosion is instakill

[mystic ether]

Sometimes? Like you mean versus enemies?

[ripe quest]

Seems to be an instakill yeah

[south folio]

noooooooooooooo

[hearty lily]

Damn

[minor sage]

can't save arco anymore rip

[south folio]

shush

[north sedge]

oh that arco, always blowing up (with that latino passion)

[south folio]

so true

[minor sage]

well you can vent in the middle of the fight with proper pushing and movement

[vague depot]

What needs venting

[hearty lily]

Yeah he doesn't manage that well. He just vents during combat and complains he's getting hit =/

I also play mobas with him. Resource management isn't his thing

[mystic ether]

Major thing too: you do not need completely vent. Getting to at least 80% is safe enough.

[vague depot]

What are we talking about

[mystic ether]

Psyker vent mechanics.

[south folio]

maybe have the friend install a mod like perilgauge or something

[hearty lily]

My friend plays Psycher and maxes out his Peril very often and blows up as a result. I'm trying to help him as a Zealot

[vague depot]

Ah

[mystic ether]

They'll figure it out as they keep going.

[north sedge]

he should be doing mini vents, basically edging

[ripe quest]

Wow! This Arco guy has some good mod recommendations, I wonder what his other mods are

[fleet zealot]

stop sayin heavy sowrd ciritititi

[mystic ether]

It's literally a matter of figuring out how it feels to weave venting in fig h to and things like that

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-angry-gif-23442156

[south folio]

i don't like the implication of that sentence

[fleet zealot]

just pick chsword, dclaw, or evi

[hearty lily]

Is it similar to Vermintide where if an ability gives 20% peril, but you use it while at 90%, you won't blow up?

[fleet zealot]

there is no reason to force Hsword into a crit weapon

[fleet zealot]

yea

[hearty lily]

Like do they give you a little buffer room when you're near max Peril

[mystic ether]

Yep

[olive raven]

Or… pull out melee!

[hearty lily]

Ah ok

[south folio]

yeah, basically everything except brain rupture can be cast below 100% peril

[hearty lily]

I'll tell my friend that

[south folio]

for brain rupture, the threshold is at 97% to initiate the cast

[mystic ether]

You can cast smite as a continuous stream until 100% since it'll fizzel.

Assail won't care and push you over the edge. All staves push you

[vague depot]

Idk when I see a psyker effortlessly decimate a horde or a bunch of ranged units I give up on trying to get in there

I just sit by them and play defense

[south folio]

though you can still suicide with smite's RMB if you attempt to cast at 100%

[olive raven]

Tbh it’s the easier way sometimes

[south folio]

interestingly, i've met a lot of smite psykers who are surprised in in-game chat when they die this way

[olive raven]

I’ve had some good psykers just shred everything in front of me so I just like… sit there

[mystic ether]

True.

General rule of thumb: do not cast again after getting to 100%.

[north sedge]

impossible

[vague depot]

I shoot down any specials and enemies they can’t kill

They kill everything else

[olive raven]

and before fatshark just gives psyker a talent to prioritize weapon swapping

[mystic ether]

They just haven't learned it usually yeah.

[olive raven]

I cannot remember if it exists or not already lol

[mystic ether]

Malefic momentum

+warp dmg after non warp kill

[north sedge]

yea

[vague depot]

Swap after getting a couple of kills to restore a bit of peril sounds nice

[north sedge]

it exists

[mystic ether]

Fun for gun psykers and builds like mine running high peril bonus dmg interactoon

[south folio]

if only it were more like agile engagement where it also a benefit for non-warp attacks on warp kills

[steep flame]

just played 6 hours of risk of rain

[visual stream]

Modded or no

[steep flame]

no

[mystic ether]

1 2 or remix 1?

[steep flame]

2

[mystic ether]

How'd that g

[visual stream]

What survivor you rocking 🧐

[steep flame]

a couple

[steep flame]

i played like, engineer and loader

thats it

[vague depot]

Fun

[languid vault]

How good is Executor on Combat Blades? It looks pretty good. Would a blade with Executor & Uncanny Strike be better than Lacerate / Uncanny Strike?

[mystic ether]

Which one is executor?

Instakill on heavy chain?

[steep flame]

i also unlocked artificer

[visual stream]

I just loved turning around and the other two are deadpan staring at him

[steep flame]

and practically solo'd mithrix

[north sedge]

executor is better than lacerate, but precog would be betterer

ah

[vague depot]

[mystic ether]

I haven't given it a chance but I personally don't like it out of everything else you can run on it.

[olive raven]

Yea just haven’t looked at psyker tree in 2 weeks so 😭

[ripe quest]

It would be yeah. Precog will output more damage than Executor as well.

[olive raven]

Executor is good. It’s def A tier on knife, right under Precog

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-pig-reagan-mask-darmine-gif-6743568957181143062

[olive raven]

What the fuck.

[north sedge]

lol

[ripe quest]

oh is that where your old pfp is from?

[north sedge]

yea

[ripe quest]

thought it was some like, corpse

[north sedge]

stan was disturbed by it

[olive raven]

that’s fucking rancid.

that’s some fucking Tusk level shit

[vague depot]

Don’t remind me of tusk

[north sedge]

https://youtu.be/B1pwyCl5ymE?si=bxJNI5Ht3vHmVM1z

is from this

[visual stream]

puppy doggy 🫂

[surreal solstice]

INSPECTING

[surreal solstice]

The only bad thing about being a manlet in dorktide is that weapons are scaled with player height
Smoler man - smoler weapon

[median steeple]

baby bolter

[surreal solstice]

I feel discriminated

[vague depot]

What enemies have carapace/flak armor

[south folio]

if they have some black armour of some sort, it's probably carapace/flak

crushers/maulers/reapers/bulwarks have carapace

maulers have it on their head, and reapers/bulwarks have carapace on inconsequential bodyparts

[open pollen]

I had a dream last night where they gave Ogryn a revolver, but it was regular sized. I remember being both impressed and infuriated that my ogryn was able to reload and operate it with ease. It was like they were loading in tic-tacs

[sterile badge]

shit game

[sterile badge]

[left iron]

Didnt you have 16 mil ordos a while ago Dough

Or am i remembering someone else

[surreal solstice]

...you were making hammers, weren't you

[north sedge]

someone else

i think most ive had is like 12 or something

but i made stuff

[vague depot]

So is it worth it to add damage vs flak and carapace to my evis

[lean lark]

if i wasnt a psychopathic lunatic i'd probably have 3m ordos or more

but i was "hey i want a perfect mk6 hsword."

and there goes all money

the dark temptations of this game

[north sedge]

carapace is solid on the new evisc

[vague depot]

I have no idea what stats I should be going for each weapon I just take whatever has the highest damage modifier

[north sedge]

flak is generally just good

[ember yew]

hey, i want at least any shred/rampage (flak/mnc) mk15, but fartshart saying no for 2 weeks now

[ripe quest]

I'm tempted to grab a Mk VII Hsword to add to my collection of VII swords

[ember yew]

[ripe quest]

After that benchmark stuff I've come to like it

[lean lark]

yeah after i nailed down how to use the mk9 hsword i decided to try out the others hswords

and mk6 was what caught my attention

[sterile badge]

Are you a prophet?

[ornate bone]

lel

i guess that the blessing knifers want

or blessings

[ripe quest]

yee Rending + Damage.

[ornate bone]

also is the special assignment stuff gunna stick around?

[vague depot]

What’s finesse again

I’m assuming rending is something along the lines of armor penetration

[north sedge]

yes

[cerulean jewel]

headshot dmg/autoaim

[north sedge]

autoaim?

it's weakspot and crit dmg, if it's a stat on a weapon it can affect attack speed (rashad)

[mystic ether]

Oh wait nvm that one is fine enough

[cerulean jewel]

pretty sure that weapons with higher finesse make the weakspots easier to hit

[mystic ether]

I mean. If you can actually consistently set up your backstabs, it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

[north sedge]

no

they do not

[mystic ether]

People literally just don't know how to do it

[cerulean jewel]

hmm

alright

[shy river]

Got riposte as a locked blessing on my knife it's joever

[mystic ether]

Riposte is fine

[cerulean jewel]

yeah

[mystic ether]

If anyting you actualy got one of the best combos to run with ruthless backstab.

Personally would rather have riposte at tht point for my zealot but that's fine

[ornate bone]

Oh man this new Maelstrom modifier is awful

[north sedge]

uncanny is considered better because it covers more situations

[ornate bone]

People keep falling off ahhh

[fading vale]

ok but why jump through hoops when uncanny is purely better in every way

[mystic ether]

It's not even jumping hoops.

sharking for backstabs is not difficult.

[fading vale]

it's pointless

[mystic ether]

It's really not

Like strictly so

if you don't want to that's fine

[fading vale]

it is strictly pointless to shark for backstabs cause of a worse blessing than uncanny, yes

[mystic ether]

And then even with the blessings, backstabs get better.

What's your point?

[north sedge]

it's not the worst if you have backstab, it's just uncanny doesn't care about that, it covers all situations

[fading vale]

it's a niche thing to do and obviously worse than just hitting shit in the head in any scenario

[mystic ether]

And if you want to push yourself towards more backstabs, it's not like you're sudden--

okay nagh

I'm pushing back on that one.

Backstabbing is literally key to making snappier mob clearing than facstabbing when you have/create those opportunities.

[north sedge]

🤔

[mystic ether]

It's genuinely a useful method and skill to develop for crowd control and racking up your kills.

[fading vale]

what game are you playing

[mystic ether]

VT2 and darktide

1000's of hours on shade dual dagger, multiple cta clears

[obtuse solstice]

random drop, what do I swap out?

[mystic ether]

you can always do something safer.

But you're not about to tell me that that doesn't matter

[shy river]

Knife had mobility plenty to enable mid fight backstabs, it's a playstyle preference between ruthless/uncanny

[mystic ether]

^ straight up

[fading vale]

thanks for the memeable take of the day

[mystic ether]

I don't care.

I literally do play this game and gety my results.

You do some of the exact same things in vt2 to setup your mob backstabs as in darktide.

[fading vale]

like if you have fun doing backstabs then by all means

but do not argue in any way it's a good option relative to other choices

[mystic ether]

I didn't.

I said that it's doable and worth it when you can do so consistently or create the opportunitiy

I said several times that you can always be safer.

When I'm not getting it done well enough on vt2 I just swap to sword and dagger

To prve my point that it's a safer. more effieicent alternative.

[fading vale]

what does backstabbing have to do with being safe or not

[mystic ether]

...

Yeah we good

[fading vale]

so nothing, got it

[mystic ether]

Imma actually be that guy and drop it if you're not sure how creatin your backstabs as a core to your playstyle for a buuld is going to not be as safe compared to doing something better

Like you've been saying dawg

lol

[fading vale]

stop making a fool of yourself over a backstab fetish

[north sedge]

🤔

who said anything about safe

[mystic ether]

I'm not though?

Setting up your backstabs can be incredibly unsafe in hordes?

que?

Main reason why people would rather just go preco uncanny, even with backstabbing weaved in?

you don't even need to if you don' twant to?

[vague depot]

Are we talking about backstabs

[mystic ether]

Or just not use a knife period?

[vague depot]

I rather bump chests with the rager and tear him a new one with the evis

[north sedge]

i dont even know what's being said at this point

[fading vale]

yeah

[mystic ether]

That's fine

[north sedge]

i think the goal posts just got moved 15 times in one sentence

[mystic ether]

They haven't.

They're with yall.

[vague depot]

Idk I see people run around with knives and they do fine

Let them cook

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-block-parry-dodge-block-parry-dodge-gif-25053870

[fading vale]

we didn't say knife bad

[vague depot]

Can’t circle chase anymore

I’m happy

[fading vale]

just some weird backstab thing

[lean lark]

precog uncanny backstab is something im forced to run and the only thing ive got to say about it is

[mystic ether]

It wasn't weird, just vouching for making a point to push a build further for backstabs and how doable it actally is

[lean lark]

if you're good enough, you can somewhat make it work

[obtuse solstice]

is pen too low?

[mystic ether]

while completely acknowledging that you don't need to do it at the same time. you can have room for both things

[lean lark]

but uncanny + precog/mercy killer or whatever is better

[north sedge]

all i said was uncanny covers more situations since it's buff isn't based on positioning, hence overall better pick

and now were into safety and horde management or some shit? i dont even know

[fading vale]

probably? what % loss is it on cara and flak

[mystic ether]

Because bacjstabbing playstyle have to actually do that to do it.

[shy river]

Internet arguments be wild

[mystic ether]

If you're focusing on that

It's not that confusing at all.

[obtuse solstice]

25 on flak and 8 on cara

[lean lark]

25% flak dmg loss is uh

pretty rough

[fading vale]

is it really 25 on flak? you can't compare to the max number cause it's scaled to 100 and not 80

[buoyant pecan]

[fading vale]

so it's a 17% loss on flak roughly

that is not great

err I mean 15

[lean lark]

you'd need to run +flak and +elites

to make it reach somewhat same numbers as a high pen evis

[mystic ether]

Ig man. Iz video game

[ripe quest]

There's a mod that sets the 100% numbers to 80% numbers so you can have an easier time figuring out what's actually lost.

[obtuse solstice]

I guess I'm gonna upgrade and see what I get

[fading vale]

4% loss on cara, not sure what the special number look like though

[fading vale]

that sounds like a based mod, the whole 100 thing is silly over a year later

[obtuse solstice]

link?

[umbral kindle]

damn locks

[sharp zodiac]

Eat the locks

[ripe quest]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/235

[buoyant pecan]

Show me the weapon fax

[sharp zodiac]

Show me a RRREEAAAL man's weapon

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/wrex-masseffect-gif-21734496

[onyx solar]

what perks would you put on a flechette/scattershot kantrael shotgun? typical flakiac or would reload speed be noticeable?

[fading vale]

basically always flak maniac, or you could do elites/unyielding over maniac I suppose

[minor sage]

ok

[open bramble]

how intellectually disabled would you have to be to not be able to play gunlugger ogryn?

[royal vortex]

you would need to be incapable of turning darktide on

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[onyx solar]

idk but you can prolly ask a knife zealot

[mystic ether]

Sup? Still getting my clears.

[calm salmon]

what

you kill one enemy an attack with knife

backstabbing doesn't change that

what

and for everything else, uncanny goes further except on like, I dunno, bosses?

[mystic ether]

When you're going for backstabs and creating that space/giving yourself that space to do so and clumping whatever goons you already got?

[calm salmon]

what the fuck does that even mean

you stand there and kill one enemy an attack

with a dodge distance of 40 meters or whatever ungodly shit the knife has

Like, this shit isn't complicated.

[mystic ether]

I'm talking about backstabbing mobs unless you just mean literally the act of attacking something.

[calm salmon]

Stab face>dead

Repeat however many times there are for enemies

Backstabbing changes that process literally 0%

and only makes it harder

[mystic ether]

It can give you different chances for respositioning, getting to other units in those clusters, etc. It's not some end all be all.

[calm salmon]

like. . . are you unironically trying to light attack mobs to death with knife?

Pain

and clearly a process that just outright doesn't work

[mystic ether]

When you're backstabbing them it's not even close to that bad.

[calm salmon]

WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP DOING IT

[mystic ether]

I literally do it and it works.

I literally do these things.

[calm salmon]

yeah and literally anything else is objectively better

[mystic ether]

Not every single time but when I'm going for it and doing it, I'm getting exactly what I want out of it and moving on to the next fight.

I said this.

[calm salmon]

alt-f4ing and giving your team a bot is objectively better

than light attacking poxwalkers

[mystic ether]

okay stay the fuck over there then lol

[calm salmon]

at least the bot has survivalist

[mystic ether]

dope.

[calm salmon]

and feeds the team ammo on elite and special kills

[mystic ether]

you can hold all that, you're fine.

[calm salmon]

not just taking 50 minutes to kill 50 poxwalkers

[mystic ether]

It doesn't take that long though at all.

[calm salmon]

though honestly I'd argue that knife users outright shouldn't be attacking hordes ever anyway.

[mystic ether]

at least not in my experiences doing so.

[calm salmon]

On zealot you have flame nades

better served divebombing elites and specials

not wasting literal minutes on horde trash

[mystic ether]

I'm just not taking that long to deal with trash mobs if I ever have to.

Like ti's not taking me that long to clap them up.

[calm salmon]

You're taking longer than literally every other weapon in the game though

regardless of your blessings or skill level.

Just due to how the knife is designed.

This is an unovercomable statistic.

[mystic ether]

Not to the point where we're just getting completely swarmed is my point dawg

[calm salmon]

You're better served fucking off and focusing on elites and specials.

[mystic ether]

I literally do not care about other weapons when I'm using that weapon knowing the others are going to do better. I'm just using that weapon

[calm salmon]

Yeah and you're using it wrong if you're trying to defend its pacing on horde trash

And not taking uncanny strike on top of that

to shave hits off bosses/maulers/crushers

oh and dreg bruisers

you can reach a osbp with uncanny on them

[mystic ether]

If I'm using it wrong then I'm not supposed to be getting these clears that I';m getting. Plus I got multiple knives running different blessings just because I can. With weaker combos it takes longer, yeah no shit. I won't use those if I don't want to.

[calm salmon]

Granted that might be veteran specific

[mystic ether]

Not once did I ever say yo ucan't do something better.

[calm salmon]

I just don't get the point of defending the objectively bad horde clear on knife.

And trying to say that backstabbing makes it better

[mystic ether]

I wasn't.

[calm salmon]

when it doesn't change anything

[umbral kindle]

I feel like we need to distinguish which knife we're referring to

[mystic ether]

And it does beyond just killing things.

[calm salmon]

Both the mk6 and mk3 are the same

mk6 is just marginally easier to use because it'll stagger 2 enemies after the first kill

[mystic ether]

I'm literally opening myself up to getting to more important targets after punching a hole through a mob that's already going to be dying.

I've literally done these things.

[calm salmon]

because you can hit ~3 enemies per horizontal heavy

[mystic ether]

This ain't a vacuum to me.

also that's cool since I haven't use the mk6 enough yet

only took into the psykanium and it wasn't even a roll worth playing with in an actual run, just wanted to see how it worked.

[calm salmon]

like the mk3 knife, its dogshit.

unmitigated trash.

Just use a god damn axe

[mystic ether]

No.

lol

When I want to use an axe I will

[calm salmon]

or heavy sword

or devil claw

or force sword

or power sword

[mystic ether]

And still perform fine regardless.

[calm salmon]

or chainsword

or chainaxe

literally anything but the knife pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase

[mystic ether]

No

And I'm still getting my clears. You'll live.

[umbral kindle]

seems like someone has been butthurt by the lacerate larrys

[calm salmon]

I love staring at someone take 40 seconds to kill 40 poxwalkers

[mystic ether]

I mean, when you got someone with a knife not doing shit it does suck.

[calm salmon]

its just so fun

[mystic ether]

But it's not me

[calm salmon]

"but my horde clear is fine guys"

[mystic ether]

And I straight up don't care about my dawg's hate for it.

[calm salmon]

yeah sure, but its awfully fucking slow and literally anything else is better served because nothing else in the game sacrifices so much for its niche.

[mystic ether]

For me, it doesn't take 40 years to clear mobs. that's all I'm literally saying lol

[onyx solar]

holy shit i feel like i started an argument

[open bramble]

man, the darktide class channels have been full of violence today what with this backstab discussion and the endless survivalist debate in vet chat

[calm salmon]

survivalist is just OP

[mystic ether]

That's vet shit surv is just always in someone's mouth.

[calm salmon]

I get why everyone wants people to use that

but you can live without it

Also doesn't help that fatshark went "lol here's two completely useless auras" as your other two options

[north sedge]

i will destroy you broku (with kindness)

[ripe quest]

Are you talking about backstabbing fodder? The damage offered through backstabber doesn't change the horde clear due to how aggressively the cleave damage falls off.

[umbral kindle]

It's only bad when the Fire Team vet decides he's a plasma trooper and vacuums all the ammo boxes

[calm salmon]

IE: One kill an attack either way

IE: backstabbing is pointless in the horde discussion

its a tool for speeding up boss TTKs

[mystic ether]

as far as I'm concerned, creating my backstab opportunities isn't strictly just for the backstabbing is my point.

[calm salmon]

and probably some marginal shit like ogryns/maulers

[mystic ether]

if we're only talking about mob shit

[solar gorge]

however you can backstab a horde for cdr if you have the talent

[mystic ether]

everything else is just yeah duh stab the fucking huge asshole right in the back

[mystic ether]

doesn't exist

❤️

[ripe quest]

Yeah you can farm it with fodder, kinda fun on certain weapons that have a PA -> Light that sets up for it.

[umbral kindle]

My two cents is that knife horde clear is fine if you need to get past a handful of poxwalkers but bring a flamethrower if you actually want to "horde clear"

[solar gorge]

it's very fun to play with the backstab cdr

[calm salmon]

no knife horde clear is awful

I'm so god damn tired of people using "fine" as the word for shit that's just ass but clearly not unuseable

[mystic ether]

To this day, I still haven't cared.

Not even once.

And I'm still using it and performing

you'll be alright

when I'm not interested in knife shit I don't do knife shit

When I do knife shit I still get my shit done and have fun

[umbral kindle]

And I'm tired of people having a conniption because something isn't mega pooper DPS meta 3000 turbo fart

[mystic ether]

That might change by the time I get into aurics again but whatever.

[calm salmon]

it doesn't need to be

[ripe quest]

I think it's funny that base Taxe has better horde clear than knife.

[calm salmon]

fuck, chainsword is RIGHT THERE

[onyx solar]

mate are you okay

[calm salmon]

its not OP

its just good

[mystic ether]

oi fr?

I fucking hate that thing.

[calm salmon]

and outclasses the knife at literally everything but like. . . mobility

[dense field]

Claw is right there

[calm salmon]

and I guess melee elite TTK

[dense field]

It's good and fun

[calm salmon]

cause carapace is pain

[mystic ether]

Still haven't given a fuck. Same situation with dual daggers in vt2.

[dense field]

If you like to click

[mystic ether]

You definitely got safer options, better options.

Cool.

[north sedge]

i dont need mega pooper dps meta 3000 turbo fart, im fine with just mega fart

[mystic ether]

🗡️

[ripe quest]

For light spam yes, which is mostly in reference to the Mk III. The Mk VI is a tiny bit better but a Deci Taxe will keep up.

[calm salmon]

Yeah, its not like the choice is Combat Knife or Power Sword

[mystic ether]

Well that

[calm salmon]

There's a huge selection of tools that are all better than Combat Knife but not as braindead OP as PSword

[mystic ether]

that would be funny if I were to build a hill.

Hold on

I need to stop laughing before I type it

I got you puri

[umbral kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/chao-garden-chao-sonic-we-dont-care-meme-ratio-playing-gif-26069397

[mystic ether]

I can do it I swear/

I can...I can say that combat knife is a btter choice than psword.

[calm salmon]

And on this point, focus on the upsides of the combat knife.

[mystic ether]

OOOOOOh

oooOOOOh

[calm salmon]

Dumb mobility and good elite/special clear

don't try to fucking sell it on the horde clear.

[onyx solar]

https://tenor.com/view/tifa-tifa-lockhart-ff7og-ff7-ffvii-gif-16729434

[mystic ether]

I will

[calm salmon]

That's the worst fucking aspect of the god damn weapon

[mystic ether]

knife has better horde clear than psword

hold on hold on

[dense field]

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/glasses-luvvsrage-gif-21885528

[mystic ether]

with ruthless backstab

I can keep going

[ripe quest]

Rending doesn't apply to Unarmored and Infested.

[sudden shard]

https://tenor.com/view/london-gif-19304239

[mystic ether]

Oh dawg no pls I was bullshitting with that one

[dense field]

Knife has better horde clear than zarona revolver special spam

[mystic ether]

I promise

[dense field]

probably

[sharp zodiac]

Knife has better damage vs monstrosities than crucis

[onyx solar]

people shit on mall ninja shit but that shit looks cool as shit

[mystic ether]

Oh

[royal vortex]

bad frog

[mystic ether]

Oh hey hey hey.

[sharp zodiac]

WOW

[mystic ether]

It's funny no more.

That's not funny

[sharp zodiac]

Frog on frog violence

[mystic ether]

banned

lol

[sudden shard]

https://tenor.com/view/london-knife-meme-gif-26118846

[royal vortex]

i am far worse when violent

[mystic ether]

violent 2

[sharp zodiac]

Malevolznt

[umbral kindle]

So true when everything else is pushing me back/boss is running away before the swing animation finishes/hitting a poxwalker

[sudden shard]

We all know that if you aren’t playing ogryn you might as well uninstall

[mystic ether]

I mean, if we being real about it, might be better to just take that one talent that gives you unstoppable when/if you got the points for it.

that's what I do for my crucic shroudfield.

[ripe quest]

TWBS is popular with Thammer for a reason.

[calm salmon]

me grinding my psyker wishing I were playing ogryn

[dense field]

or, you know, stun and stagger immunity

[calm salmon]

oh well

[mystic ether]

Oh yeah that one too.

[calm salmon]

I'm tired of 99% on my class penances

I still have 100 more missions on psyker to go, give or take.

[mystic ether]

which one is that?

[calm salmon]

Then I can go hug ogryn and never let go

[ripe quest]

Thy Wrath Be Swift, the no stagger one.

[ornate bone]

sometimes i wanna bring this with me cus i feel like i have to kill all the gunners

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/917351609137254460.webp?size=64

instead im stuck sniping them with shotgun

[calm salmon]

that's what chastise the wicked is for

or twbs

but I don't use twbs

I just deal with the stagger

[ornate bone]

yes that works

if theres not one billion gunners

[calm salmon]

the bad guys can't shoot you if they have a melee weapon out

[umbral kindle]

No stagger is just too immensely OP

[ornate bone]

and if u use chastice the wicked ul run to kill 1 to be gunned down by 10 others

[mystic ether]

?

you sure?

[ripe quest]

Brauto, Laspistol, Lawby and Agri shotgun, HH Autoguns, and Revolver are all guns that can handle gunners.

[dense field]

If there's one billion gunners it's much better to chop them to bits than trying to outshoot them

[ornate bone]

yes but no

[sudden shard]

https://tenor.com/view/viktorbg-gif-25283495

[mystic ether]

Wait I never tried. Can you slide while in chastise/

[dense field]

It's pointless, one billion gunner shoot better that 1 you

[sudden shard]

Use the revolver

[umbral kindle]

I love using Chastise, I love dashing to something only to stop on the shooter that just sprinted in front of me

[ornate bone]

machine gunners stunlock u so u cant do shiet with melee

[dense field]

not really

[ornate bone]

wym not really

[mystic ether]

You can bull through them and attack if you're in max range of your melee.

[ripe quest]

Gunners can be anti-shooter movemented and you can use TWBS.

[mystic ether]

that'll shut their shooting off.

[solar gorge]

don't run up to them when they're shooting at you in a straight line

[mystic ether]

^ unless you got something else set up to do so.

[ornate bone]

yes

[dense field]

this is stun immunity

[ornate bone]

but what if theres like 6+ of those

[mystic ether]

I slide underneath them an dstart flicking throwing knives.

[ornate bone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/748179060210794587.webp?size=64

[solar gorge]

shoot them

[ornate bone]

yes

[solar gorge]

or wait till they reload

[mystic ether]

slide and shoot, slide and stab their toes.

I'm not kidding.

[dense field]

Slide

[solar gorge]

they always stop shooting for a moment

[dense field]

It just works

[solar gorge]

then rush + slide

[sudden shard]

Use cover

[ornate bone]

shoulda clipped what i mean

[mystic ether]

mm

[ornate bone]

only option was shooting basically

[sudden shard]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-bernie-gif-27192884

[solar gorge]

or nade

[mystic ether]

Like when they're positioned in a way where you're going to be getting gunned down by them, maybe reconsider your stuff but things like throwing knives are very helpful. Obviously nades and all that too.

[ornate bone]

i use the fire nade so cant stun

[mystic ether]

You really do have pletny of methods to set up rushing gunner squad.

[lean lark]

just diagonal runslide towards them with swift certainty

[umbral kindle]

Take autopistol, shoot 3 bullets at them to stagger, rush

[ripe quest]

In cases where the gunners are mostly infront of you, you can use movement to go to the gunner/shooter furthest to the left or right and just work your way through them. Swift Certainty shines when doing that. Alt. just shoot them.

[solar gorge]

well use the fire nade so instead of being stunned they die

[ornate bone]

works when they are not spread out

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/927593143371694131.webp?size=64

[covert needle]

c'mon, 1 revolver shot to the hed = ded

[ornate bone]

one day

[mystic ether]

if you're running it sure

[solar gorge]

if they're spread out it's easy to pick them one by one

[lean lark]

if gunners are spread out you do a little conga line one by one

[ornate bone]

bought that for hand cannon

[covert needle]

just hope there aren't 6 of them and you can land your shots lmao

[ornate bone]

ud die

[lean lark]

no

[ornate bone]

yes

[mystic ether]

Can also just kind of line up your revolver shots for collateral kills if you can.

[lean lark]

you'd kill them

[ornate bone]

u wouldnt be able to kill 1

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/559535376268787754.webp?size=64

[solar gorge]

gunners are at their worst when they're on top of eachothers and desynced

[lean lark]

i kill 90% of ranged elites as zealot

[covert needle]

so satisfying when it happens like that

[lean lark]

using melee

because of swift certainty

and twbs

[ornate bone]

it was the most cancerous shit iv experienced

buncha gunners stunlocking u etc

[violet hornet]

I cannot recall the last time I had difficulty charging shooters, even in a straight line, by just spamming slide

[mystic ether]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

maybe mistiming it sure

[covert needle]

you guys don't just eat the damage? 👀

[solar gorge]

well except reapers you can spam slide very easily yes

[mystic ether]

that'll always do it. got some friends still learning to dodge snipers

[lean lark]

gunners are a non-threat unless you have disablers Infront of you

then they're a threat

[mystic ether]

no shade to them but idg the sniper fear sometimes.

[violet hornet]

I'm chastising if I see a reaper for sure lol

[ornate bone]

i usually dont either

[mystic ether]

from other players.

[ornate bone]

but sometimes

[solar gorge]

reapers will literally not give a shit about ur slide

[mystic ether]

They're kind of just whatever.

[ornate bone]

damnation rlly fuks u at times with the amount of gunners etc

[north sedge]

twbs and roam free

[ornate bone]

wym

[ripe quest]

Tis what schmovement is for.

[violet hornet]

Why wrath be slippery

[solar gorge]

idk what a schmovement is

[north sedge]

movement but cooler

https://tenor.com/view/monty-mole-mario-mario-party-superstars-mario-party-mario-party-mole-gif-809106713000995708

[south folio]

TWBS prevents the knockback from gunners/reapers right

[ripe quest]

An umbrella term for stuff that you can do to style on shooters.

[south folio]

that's the good shit

[ripe quest]

Most easily done is diagonal running.

[lean lark]

not reapers

iirc

[ornate bone]

ye works if theres like 1 or 2

[mystic ether]

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-ichigo-ichigo-fast-ichigo-speed-pheistyy-gif-21412576

[ornate bone]

not 5+ extra shit

[covert needle]

i heard the naruto running tech is super valuable

[mystic ether]

me against one scab grunt

[solar gorge]

reapers fire differently from gunners

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/omori-schmove-omori-dancing-jrwi-just-roll-with-it-gif-24571934

[ripe quest]

Refer to what I said earlier about groups of ranged enemies.

[lean lark]

when there's groups of enemies you chastise towards them

[violet hornet]

80% of the time I see a reaper it's dead before it can get set up and fire anyways

[lean lark]

or use a

You won't believe this but

You can use a secondary.

[ripe quest]

A GUN?

[ornate bone]

that what i was saying at start

[violet hornet]

You mean grenade right?

[solar gorge]

agri shotgun with the 2 shot reaper set up

[ornate bone]

then they say i shud just dodge

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1149411700488015912.webp?size=64

[lean lark]

well yeah

[mystic ether]

We can just not speak in vacuums in a game that doesn't care about vacuums.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Like it's hard I know for the zealot class to not do so but...

😛

[solar gorge]

and then you have ogryn with the rumbler 1 shot reaper setup, common ogryn w

[ripe quest]

A good amount of the advice I saw was either schmove on them or use a gun.

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-keannu-reeves-bend-gif-14008902

[normal wren]

Is it bad I cant swap off of the kantrael shotgun?

[violet hornet]

What does speak in vacuums mean?

[lean lark]

no

[south folio]

vacuum capsule

[ripe quest]

I don't think anyone was advising against using a gun.

[violet hornet]

That's either really loud or silent depending on which vacuum you're talking about

[mystic ether]

Treating things as if they only have linear outcomes.

[lean lark]

cryonic rod

[dense field]

Stop getting stunned.

[normal wren]

Tried bolter, couldnt do it, tried autogun ehh, revolver is a thing.

[ornate bone]

that doesnt work on guns i think

[dense field]

Yes it does

[lean lark]

it does

tooltips lie

[ornate bone]

wtf

[dense field]

Yes it's intended

[mystic ether]

:>

[dense field]

So it's not gonna be "fixed"

[ornate bone]

now i gotta redo build

[covert needle]

try zarona big iron, it's like kantrael but you dont have to fire 3 times to kill a sniper

[normal wren]

I 2 tap em?

[violet hornet]

Nah it's a great all around weapon, everyone needs something they can lean on for most situations

[dense field]

That's 1 tap too many

[ripe quest]

Have you, idk, tried any of the stuff people were saying? There's a difference between something being vacuum sealed and you not thinking it'd work in a game.

[normal wren]

(Also I like to spray it into patrols of maulers/crushers)

[heavy arch]

Kant shotgun fucks hard

[dense field]

Yeah it's very good

[covert needle]

me too but with the revolver they actually die

[heavy arch]

big D

if you can’t kill with Kant shotty that’s a skill issue sorry not sorry

[normal wren]

Fair, gotta try and get a revolver with good blessings though

My blessings/stats are still shot cuz only level 28

[covert needle]

i used it for 50 hours and my proficiency went up when i switched to a higher precision weapon

[covert needle]

it does make the difference. but use what's fun, you know! love how shotguns in this game perform like shotguns and not confetti cannons

[normal wren]

Yup

[heavy arch]

[south folio]

twbs does work against reapers, neat https://streamable.com/gjy4we

[normal wren]

Bolter was too slow for me sadly

For the first ~20 levels I used a lasgun

[hallow hatch]

Would you guys roll this even tho cleave is 70?

[covert needle]

someone said bolter was slow to draw, idk how true that is

[heavy arch]

70 is good

Most people aim for 70+ as a base

[violet hornet]

It mostly just feels slow when you're trying to draw it while being closed in by melee specials / elites or when your team mows down targets before you get it out

[normal wren]

It was enough to get me killed when I tried karnak twins damnation

[covert needle]

man, i hate it when my bolter gets stuck in my pocket

[hallow hatch]

what could i do to make this sword better?

[mystic ether]

I don't really use claw swords much so idk

Maybe change the impact blessing to something else that ramps your dmg or something.

Does claw sword get rampage?

[covert needle]

vicious slice > rampage, block efficiency > flak?

[royal vortex]

yea

[lean lark]

not really that slow

[violet hornet]

Id swap vicious slice for either rampage or shred (shred for crit build), then block eff for flak damage

[lean lark]

it's over exaggerated

[ornate bone]

thammer is life

[lean lark]

iirc if you run momentum the speed of the pullout is faster too

[mystic ether]

Usually for weapons like this you can take a blessing combo that bumps your cleave up and boosts your damage fluidly. Then for your perks, whatever combo you need to further accomplish that

[lean lark]

don't quote me on that as I'll test the truth of that tomorrow

but the bolter, for how overdramatized it gets, has a slightly slower draw time than other weapons

[violet hornet]

I run flamer often which is also slow to pull out, you just have to get used to it and plan to bring it out earlier and commit to having it out when you do

[vocal pulsar]

your pc is capable of playing music and darktide at the same time?

[covert needle]

i haven't heard of that, would be interested to know, too.

[vocal pulsar]

also @south folio do you like shoegaze?

that song kind of reminded me of candy claws

[normal wren]

I think I just got used to the shotguns pull time

[south folio]

i'm getting a restraining order against you so that you can no longer be on the same planet as me

[south folio]

just listening to a few of their stuff, i don't think i'll like their stuff too much besides ambience

i like stuff that evokes a strong emotion from me
this was the song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkPU8IYkTSw

[spare dome]

arco obviously plays his music through a gen 1 iPod. With the bitrate cranked down to 10 to save on performance.

[south folio]

there's a vocaloid version but i dislike it

[south folio]

soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

i'm playing music through my android phone

that i connect to my computer using scrcpy

i can not believe how close you are to the mark

[spare dome]

me too actually

the disbelief i mean

[south folio]

and i indeed do listen on music on my android devices during gameplay esp since the music i like is stored on soundcloud and all the browsers on my computer have like 100 tabs open

[vague depot]

I listen to the music and then memorize it so I can perfectly play it back in my mind

[spare dome]

i still have songs on my HDD from fuckin

Kazaa

[heavy arch]

ok boomer

[south folio]

i used to have music on an sd card but that got corrupted

[vague depot]

Ngl I really like the darktide music

Not all of it

But there are just moments when the beat drops as the horde hits and it gets a guy all jiggy

[south folio]

yeah it's a shame i can't selectively turn on the music for certain events

[spare dome]

shit do be boppin

[vague depot]

I wish the song for the twins had more impact

[inner forge]

Arco, why do you always have the most cursed setups

[south folio]

don't talk to me or my phone again

time to take a picture of my setup again

[heavy arch]

he’s a modern day cyber hobo

[south folio]

which angle best displays my noctua fan hmmm

[spare dome]

exterior noctua fan

[vague depot]

Also how am I supposed to revive my teammates during the final fight with the twins when I’m the last one standing

[heavy arch]

chad noctua fan enjoyer

[vague depot]

They just don’t give me time to breathe

[heavy arch]

Respect

[inner forge]

His singular noctua fan lmao

[south folio]

hmm my setup is too condensed to show the fan properly

oh well

[vocal pulsar]

idk what band or song you were listening to was

shoegaze is a genre of music

that song you posted reminded me of a shoegaze-esque band i like, candy claws

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXCEF22nx2E&list=OLAK5uy_l6YHqBPlvufAypZnBmEMzaEyvwYtj6MFI&index=5

[solar gorge]

what kind of genre name is shoegaze jesus chirst

[heavy arch]

tumblr genre

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-shoe-rack-gif-22985477

shoegazing rn

[heavy arch]

no you stare at your feet

[normal wren]

Btw what build should one run for the twins to not be deadweight?

[heavy arch]

You look at your own shoes when you listen to shoe gaze

[north sedge]

i like how you deleted your graphics for performance but keep an absurd amount of tabs open

[heavy arch]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-emo-goth-dance-hair-flip-gif-15779062

[vocal pulsar]

it got the name from the band/artists staring at their shoes during performances (because they were manipulating guitar effect pedals with their feet)

[heavy arch]

shoegaze enjoyer

[mystic ether]

Some of those blues look really good.

I just don't like wearing heels

[south folio]

they're important ok

[inner forge]

I get the tabs I spose

[vocal pulsar]

here's my fav song, from the most 'fundamental' shoegaze band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH0NQzXlzyQ

[quaint verge]

Any build works, just help with either shield, mines & elite managing.

[inner forge]

But even I know that's cursed

[vocal pulsar]

my bloody valentine, not to be confused with bullet for my valentine

[normal wren]

Wasnt sure if there was a general better one to use, been running kantrael+new eviscerator

[solar gorge]

and not be confused with Funny Valentine

[north sedge]

Corruption aura is nice, chain weapons do well against shields

[quaint verge]

Evis is ok for shield, while chaxe is better at it

[ornate bone]

idk what to sacrifice for thy wrath

[coarse birch]

Bullet for my valentine is a band i forgot about idk if i can even name a song

[heavy arch]

evis 15 2 taps shield

[inner forge]

I love that I'm in the famous arco potato pic

[vocal pulsar]

i've never listened

[quaint verge]

Plus you can help Abit with elite stuff with the chain weapons

[north sedge]

What weapon

[ornate bone]

thammer

[lean lark]

What weapon

oh

[ornate bone]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5pKCDm2fw4k6D6C5Rk646C?si=0d2df25968434601

[lean lark]

that's what I get for not scrolling down

[coarse birch]

yeah me either never my type of metal

[lean lark]

remove ewew and distain

[vocal pulsar]

only metal i listen to really is slayer

[lean lark]

not good on thammer

[north sedge]

coherencey regen bad

[ornate bone]

wth is ewew and distain

[lean lark]

remove coherency Regen buff and backstab cooldown to get second wind

[quaint verge]

[lean lark]

enemies within enemies without

Distain is the two crossed swords at the top of your talents

[coarse birch]

slayers good, for metal i tend to listen to all sorts of stuff but we would be here all day listing everything

[lean lark]

One of the first 3 options

[ornate bone]

ah