Still too long
#zealot-class
olive raven
tender moss
fair enough
i wish i could play as a mechinicus
forgetting how to spell because its 2 am
random berry
and requisition armory is being completely trash. lol.
north sedge
It's not a lake
It's an ocean
random berry
372 77% damage, attempt number two, whoo.
tender moss
It's not a lake
It's an ocean
Stephen King once wrote that “Nightmares exist outside of logic"
sage river
Very good picture thank you darktide
ripe quest
i wish i could play as a mechinicus
Probs will be the next Archetype if I had to guess. Either would be that or some curveball since the only two common requests are AdMech and Ratlings, one of which is too short to be added.
ornate bone
https://tenor.com/view/alan-wake-jazz-dance-alan-wake-2-dancing-gif-853594342403...
Love me Alan Wake
Remedy stan 🫡
tender moss
Love me Alan Wake
I really loved angers remorse that song was so fucking good
gilded bridge
i wish i could play as a mechinicus
Conspiracy theorists think that'll be the next class
tender moss
in alan wake 2
tender moss
Conspiracy theorists think that'll be the next class
dlc? or nah
north sedge
Aw2 was quite fantastic
gilded bridge
No idea, not conspiracy theorist
tender moss
oh yea it is
ornate bone
I really loved angers remorse that song was so fucking good
I'm still super biased to their earlier works myself
Late Goodbye on Max Payne was 👌
And so was Dark Disquiet on Control
gilded bridge
ornate bone
( again )
tender moss
https://tenor.com/view/mr-door-alan-wake-herald-of-darkness-david-harewood-smirk...
alan wake 3 i want to know who this man is
more of what he is
ripe quest
dlc? or nah
I vaguely recall FS saying they wouldn't do a paid archetype but idr
random berry
hadron apologized for messing up the last hammer.
sage river
Is the XII or IV the better axe?
tender moss
hadron apologized for messing up the last hammer.
screaming at my monitor
sage river
Also h a m m e r
olive raven
hadron apologized for messing up the last hammer.
Nice
ornate bone
hadron apologized for messing up the last hammer.
ripe quest
Is the XII or IV the better axe?
IV is generalist, better crowd damage. XII leans into the single target. Both can 1 shot Crushers for reference.
sage river
Ah
sage river
Is Ironhelm a good hammer to have?
ornate bone
Is Ironhelm a good hammer to have?
I like it
ripe quest
The special attack deals less damage but it can cleave unlike the Crucis. Some people don't like the patterns on it.
ornate bone
Yeh
It's mostly a trade off
The og hammer has really easy patterns
But the moment there's a horde you'll never hit your special
sage river
The ironhelm doesn't?
celest cave
Is Ironhelm a good hammer to have?
Depends. Most randos like it because cleave on special. But more junk moveset + less dmg .
ornate bone
The newer one's thunder charge cleaves through everything that's not a special/elite
But the moveset gets weird
First 2 heavies are horde clearing
sage river
ripe quest
The ironhelm doesn't?
Horde rotation is like, H1 L2 with PA for CC. It's simple just some people don't like it.
ornate bone
Then the 3rd is a weird overhead
maiden path
HELLO
tender moss
https://tenor.com/view/alan-wake-gif-281397509088435272
i love the actor so much
maiden path
are people talking about max payne
north sedge
You can hit stuff in crowds with crucis special, takes practice though
ornate bone
So you need to rotate your attack pattern
tender moss
are people talking about max payne
why>
maiden path
ornate bone
are people talking about max payne
We wuz
I love all the Max Payne games tbh
But 2 is still the best
sage river
Horde rotation is like, H1 L2 with PA for CC. It's simple just some people don't...
Oh perfect I played Warrior Priest Saltzpyre, Im already perfect at it
maiden path
3 is the only one u can go dive off a soccer stadiums balconys and go slide down the stairs
ornate bone
So doesn't quite hit as hard for me
ripe quest
Oh perfect I played Warrior Priest Saltzpyre, Im already perfect at it
Yee. Thammers suffer from a weird thing though where the base damage isn't much representative of a V2 hammer but it makes up for it with the activations.
ornate bone
But
you can hit your head on stuff and that's funny so it's still good
random berry
yay, i can oneshot a crusher with it using the F charge
sage river
Yee. Thammers suffer from a weird thing though where the base damage isn't much ...
So on demand full meter strikes basically
ornate bone
Yee. Thammers suffer from a weird thing though where the base damage isn't much ...
Me with the eviscerators
ornate bone
Why they no Kruber exec sword smh
maiden path
Why they no Kruber exec sword smh
das bascially new evis
celest cave
Why they no Kruber exec sword smh
New evis
gilded bridge
I just want a zealot kite shield
tender moss
I just want a zealot kite shield
your sheild is your faith
gilded bridge
your sheild is your faith
I know I'm playing zealot all wrong
tender moss
Yay or nay
ornate bone
your sheild is your faith
My face* is my shield
- martyr zealot
tender moss
My face* is my shield
- martyr zealot
as it should be
ripe quest
So on demand full meter strikes basically
Kinda. Less consistent though since you often won't be using the activations with each and every attack.
gilded bridge
My HAMMER is my shield
-crucis one shot builds
sage river
The really fun thing with Zealot is the F ability that literally saves everyone's toughness
sage river
I get to feel useful every time I press it
gilded bridge
ornate bone
But when other people use it I love them
tender moss
I think i love the shot gun
ornate bone
Legit I tried the channel ult a few auric runs
And my team psyker with smite is like
ripe quest
Yay or nay
It's a bit odd. We have a weapon setup guide in pins, the blessing is a bit preferencial but I recommend +Flak instead of reload speed.
tender moss
It's a bit odd. We have a weapon setup guide in pins, the blessing is a bit pref...
mannnn
the thing about guides is
its not fun to follow
its fun to make your own thing
even if its dog shit
ripe quest
The one we have is super loose compared to other ones I've seen before.
celest cave
its fun to make your own thing
We are meta slaves here.
ripe quest
If you want to experiment with random ideas and see if they're good there's a mod called Loadout Config.
tender moss
We are meta slaves here.
slaves to the meta
ripe quest
Lets you custom make Psyk and solo mod weapons.
ornate bone
End of the day
I clear auric Maelstroms smoothly most of the time
It's ridiculous that sprint sliding away from an enemy doesn't dodge their attack
So it's obviously working fine
tender moss
slaves to the meta
Sheep to the shepherd
tender moss
https://tenor.com/view/cats-toby-the-cat-nod-yes-yes-yes-hooman-gif-17105827
im glad you agree
i cant use fefe here
ripe quest
It's ridiculous that sprint sliding away from an enemy doesn't dodge their attac...
something something harder to hit a guy sliding into your legs compared to hitting a guy sliding at a nice and reasonable distance
tender moss
also i hope they dont remove the twins because its actualy fun as fuck
ripe quest
They're up indefinitely.
tender moss
or i hope they have raid bosses diffrent weeks? and then they rotate back
ripe quest
That'd be interesting.
tender moss
its a concept i just thought of
because it would be fun to fight a boss bulwark diffrent from the enemy type
celest cave
Well, there are a lot of fun things could be.
Personally i would like more mid and finale events on the map, like in vt2.
visual stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6qjvT0DSso Just dropping this here
celest cave
Not the same hold/scan stuff.
north sedge
They've already started expanding it a bit
ripe quest
yee it seems like they're trying to experiment
tender moss
Personally i would like more mid and finale events on the map, like in vt2.
instead of plug in servo skull and wait
i need something fresh
ornate bone
something something harder to hit a guy sliding into your legs compared to hitti...
Worse even is dodging dogs by sliding
You can Neo an entire dog, but not a dude's sword
vestal coyote
Is this thing fucked because of the crowd control?
I dunno what the threshold is
gray ice
Mmm, typically I don't think much about that outside certain weapons.
exotic portal
yeah, another 500k kills to go
gray ice
This is perfectly fine
vestal coyote
Oh yeah? awesome
Because I was upgrading it from grey
so, so far it's been pretty nice
but then I ran out of plasteel at purple
gray ice
You have skullcrusher which is all you really need
You can change the stam perk and whatever the 2nd blessing is doesn't matter much
quaint verge
hadron apologized for messing up the last hammer.
Need 4% more on penetration 
random berry
lmao
ember yew
Getting shot by a trapper at this corner
this is normal for them
i'm getting regular crap shots like this, thinking "maybe THIS time it wont go through textures/objects"
nope
frozen temple
Is this a good roll bois? What blessings/perks is the best? New to flamers
quaint verge
You can change the stam perk and whatever the 2nd blessing is doesn't matter muc...
replace perk to block effiecency (its a joke)
gray ice
Is this a good roll bois? What blessings/perks is the best? New to flamers
can change quickflame to blaze away and specialists to flak
and it'd be fine
exotic portal
i'm getting regular crap shots like this, thinking "maybe THIS time it wont go t...
through a railing
frozen temple
can change quickflame to blaze away and specialists to flak
Copy 
exotic portal
fucking slug shots
quaint verge
can change quickflame to blaze away and specialists to flak
can use caraspace if he wants to play alot of scab melee
with chastise
frozen temple
im basically only gonna use it for twins HM 
quaint verge
then cara since its alot for elites
exotic portal
holding back on trappers like the guy putting jumping fleas in a yar, they adapt
exotic portal
additional difficulty modifier by fartshart
ember yew
when he shoots a net
there's 98.4% chance that he will ignore everything on its path
exotic portal
there's 98.4% chance that he will ignore everything on its path
feels like it's more
frozen temple
i feel like its only fair that if the trapper shoots the net at you through a horde it should gobble up everything infront of it along with you lol
exotic portal
i feel like its only fair that if the trapper shoots the net at you through a ho...
think i'd rather prefer a pleasure world
abstract venture
Somebody let's you out of a trapper net 2 minutes later and like a Pokeball out pops a zealot, 4 maulers, 2 shotgunners, and a fs dev
silk sail
does duelist work with ranged weapons?
wondering if I should pair it as a shotgunner zealot
exotic portal
wondering if I should pair it as a shotgunner zealot
Dance of death works with it, think it atm stacks too
spark ember
why in some matches AI director apamming specials and disablers non stop like there is no tomorrow?
ember yew
why in some matches AI director apamming specials and disablers non stop like th...
depends on the map
Hab Dreyko loves to do that
for example
soft atlas
what should I do with this guy
timber ether
is this an upgrade or a sidegrade
i'd love to have more ammo, but idk
that crit chance is so nice for reliable burning
ember yew
you dont really need burning, its a antiboss type blessing
abstract venture
Could always take Infernus if you want it badly but that first one is better in my opinion
ember yew
and on the left one you can still replace 8% damage with 25% maniac or flak, speedload is somewhat useful (not the best, but it works)
abstract venture
Ohh I didn't see that yea
oak ermine
If I had to use one of them, I'd probably use the one on the left
abstract venture
Agreed that's the better choice
oak ermine
Unless I desperately needed boss/Unyielding damage in the build
abstract venture
I mean this is my current pistol, I'm saving my last change for DumDum instead of speedload, but if I didn't have infested rolled I would put flak on instead
But even with that roll Infernus is pretty hit or miss, most gunners, shotgunners, snipers die before burn is applied
And flak/carapace guys just eat a charged chainsword heavy
timber ether
oh there's a lvl 4 infernus
abstract venture
I honestly find more use in speedload than Infernus even against large enemies because "close range kill" proc is a considerably large range and running out of ammo is no fun
timber ether
mmm good to keep in mind.
spark ember
what should I do with this guy
u can grab rampage from it...
abstract venture
3-4 is not much better you will rarely get 10 burn stacks even on crusher/mauler
I believe lvl2 is 3 stacks up stacking to 6 total, which would be all you could reliably apply before anything dies
warm gust
ornate bone
Reddit guy told me to watch a "top true solo player with thousands upon thousands of hours experience"
The specific player took a jab at vet's stealth because "who the heck are you diving on veteran, you're made of paper"
And the best part, right
The Reddit guy was lecturing me on vet shout being bad
ember yew
The Reddit guy was lecturing me on vet shout being bad
what
ember yew
ammo aura and VoC are best traits of my pocket vets
how dare he insults my fellow slaves
ornate bone
The stuff the dude tells me to watch says he's wrong
quaint verge
The Reddit guy was lecturing me on vet shout being bad
Show him the way to the dumpster 
so he can fish up some more vet takes
ornate bone
Dare I add
The youtuber's latest video I can find is the first iteration of the vet tree and it's the shortest part of the entire video
It's not even the current one
quaint verge
ornate bone
So if the guy called the revive shout very strong when it had a combined total of 60s cooldown, I can't imagine his opinion has been negatively impacted by the reduction to 45s
fading vale
DT youtubers have negative braincells and know nothing about how the game actually works
quaint verge
Especially this dude (Its a joke)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAYSGu7FR10
celest quail
real ^
median steeple
Today's bleed build is sponsored by raycon
quaint verge
Today's bleed build is sponsored by raycon
quaint verge
https://tenor.com/view/2-pixel-sad-moxie-gif-7814315665172989526
cause of death, excessive bleeding from the ears
median steeple
exotic portal
tender moss
exotic portal
tender moss
https://tenor.com/view/chewing-character-chewing-character-hd-chewing-character-...
eating my blows
celest quail
peak
tender moss
i mean im bi so idc
ember yew
fair
exotic portal
i mean im bi so idc
tender moss
Biro vision
exotic portal
zinc talon
sterile stone
That looks horrid
gray ice
keep the right one
exotic portal
That looks horrid
exotic portal
accuracy, 2 outta 100
median steeple
Big numba brain hurts
sterile stone
accuracy, 2 outta 100
We can make that work
It may not be perfect
But it can work
exotic portal
We can make that work
Honnestly
even force behind those bullets with that short of a barrel?
quaint verge
god, the clicking
tender moss
god, the clicking
my finger has abs now
median steeple
Holy fuck reddit comments are both hilarious and horrifying to read
raven swan
Holy fuck reddit comments are both hilarious and horrifying to read
You should also check Steam Forums, a lot of gems there
quaint verge
Holy fuck reddit comments are both hilarious and horrifying to read
its a refined 4chan
median steeple
I haven't checked the forums since launch and all the "why women in my manly man game?"
ornate bone
To be fair, most of the female faces are ugly
It's why 90% of the female characters you see use the same face
raven swan
I haven't checked the forums since launch and all the "why women in my manly man...
Welcome to 40K fandom
quaint verge
It's why 90% of the female characters you see use the same face
tell that to this SoB face
exotic portal
prob why psykers get one shot by crushers so much
quaint verge
prob why psykers get one shot by crushers so much
whats the correlation of this ? 
sterile stone
even force behind those bullets with that short of a barrel?
I mean
Press F
Get in their face
exotic portal
whats the correlation of this ? <:merlup:1079235607701753977>
https://tenor.com/view/trevor-belmont-castlevania-trevor-castlevania-s4-trevor-vs-death-gif-21847182
median steeple
I can't even post these screenshots because they're so vile
raven swan
My female sharp shooter has pretty good looking face.
quaint verge
I can't even post these screenshots because they're so vile
yea, lets leave it at that
exotic portal
I can fix her moment?
raven swan
The person who created the thread is playing anime games with girls with big stompas
median steeple
Time to sleep so have a cat
drifting wolf
peter rex
median steeple
Why he so smal
sterile stone
how was the breakfast?
Dude
quaint verge
And it still gets me
raven swan
I find this lady attractive
sterile stone
10/10 birthday breakfast
quaint verge
thats good 
ornate bone
That face is the one I use for my veteran
quaint verge
dopamine from food and meme
ornate bone
I found it to be an acquired taste
sterile stone
dopamine from food and meme <a:NODDERS:1073320123227713608>
I dunno what's been up
But I've been just drained the past few days
Like always tired
I think old age is finally catching up to me
quaint verge
seasonal holidays
sterile stone
More than likely yeah
quaint verge
its more of a choir as you age
raven swan
Barehands he pull the teeth of beast of nurgle
quaint verge
ive kinda stopped going to family meetups in the holidays
ornate bone
In the meantime this is my female character in PSO2
quaint verge
cause its too much effort
ornate bone
Or one of her earlier iterations
raven swan
ive kinda stopped going to family meetups in the holidays
I have no family left to do meet ups
sterile stone
ive kinda stopped going to family meetups in the holidays
I don't blame you
raven swan
4h train, 4 hour flight another hour of flight
And in the whole that time all you think is about playing video games
sad
sterile stone
Train rides actually seem like the vibes
quaint verge
Train rides actually seem like the vibes
the dread of thinking about exam while in a train ride
naah
sterile stone
the dread of thinking about exam while in a train ride
Gotta clear the mind bruv
quaint verge
last xmas train i took took 10h
sterile stone
Good thoughts
ornate bone
And while I'm in the PSO2 folder
exotic portal
and i live futher north now
quaint verge
Good thoughts
i drank some beer
ornate bone
the kvaris snow fox achieved kino status in my heart
quaint verge
so it was alright
drifting wolf
i like to envision the male fanatic as grody and fairly old, so i use the gross skinny looking saltzpyre face
quaint verge
https://tenor.com/view/xlist-viking-valhalla-gif-4945508668487910972
i need to travel south to trave north
sterile stone
It's the small things you gotta appreciate
jade compass
what modifiers i should be looking for for this wep?
quaint verge
It's the small things you gotta appreciate
i got 5/10 presentation done now 
exotic portal
i need to travel south to trave north
I'm only resonating with walking.
raven swan
what modifiers i should be looking for for this wep?
All depends, I've seen Zaelots running 5% Crit Chance
sterile stone
How long is the other half gonna take?
ornate bone
I go for cleave targets dump because the lights already have plenty cleave and I want all the mobility I can get
raven swan
Others go Maniacs Damage etc
quaint verge
How long is the other half gonna take?
ive worked on them before, just need to finalize and organise it
sterile stone
You've got this
raven swan
I got couple of trash ones
quaint verge
its a pain
and 10 more presentations to do for 8th jan
raven swan
Best I can do is this
drifting wolf
what modifiers i should be looking for for this wep?
probably focus on penetration, damage, and shredder the most, i'd still prioritize high cleave but i'm guessing it's not nearly as important, mobility is dump stat
raven swan
drifting wolf
very true
exotic portal
adhd is fun <a:ScrimboBimblerPajama:1164643433898582036>
They say coffee works
raven swan
any shotgun experts?
quaint verge
I'm only resonating with walking.
imagine. walking across the ocean
quaint verge
get it for the blessing
quaint verge
https://youtu.be/9v6utcu5u_Q?si=GuBdAm7Lcj3YZtfO
void iron
If the mobility n finesse were swapped oh my gosh....
median steeple
You can now play as Luigi
quaint verge
You can now play as Luigi
Luigi the hedgehog 
raven swan
fire frenzy tho
I guess I can take it to earn bellsing?
quaint verge
If the mobility n finesse were swapped oh my gosh....
buy it for the 369 rating
raven swan
Blessing*
quaint verge
I guess I can take it to earn bellsing?
yea
what you want on kant is No respite and anything else with dmg as blessings
i run no respite and full bore
since i mostly focus ogryns on my shots
exotic portal
the slug shotgun in kinda fun to pop trappers with
exotic portal
load in a heavy load and wait for that amusing pop sound as the slug fires
quaint verge
the low spread kinda arse when yyou are used to kant
since you actually need to aim
exotic portal
the low spread kinda arse when yyou are used to kant
run the death talent, 75% on the spread
quaint verge
i said, low spread is arse
exotic portal
it seems to stack
quaint verge
https://tenor.com/view/shame-gun-thats-a-shame-rifle-reload-gif-16005192
tis mah vet agri
median steeple
Do you also put cut up hot dogs in your Mac and cheese?
hushed knoll
Hi anngaku Chan
quaint verge
Do you also put cut up hot dogs in your Mac and cheese?
he puts floppy bacon
hushed knoll
Do you also put cut up hot dogs in your Mac and cheese?
No but it sounds good
hushed knoll
I put powdered mustard in my crock pot Mac and cheese
quaint verge
you mean on your concoction
median steeple
His wizards brew even
quaint verge
Hi anngaku Chan
i have never acknowledge this, so please stop with that
median steeple
Warlocks divination if you are so inclined
exotic portal
tis mah vet agri
quaint verge
His wizards brew even
i mean he has german blood in him, so mustard is a part of his culture
quaint verge
rip scattershot
exotic portal
it doesn't stack with the slug?
native cargo
quaint verge
it gets more crit chance on more enermies you hit
works wonder for lawbringer
since special is horizontal spread
quaint verge
also normal shot on agri can stagger almost all ogryns
just aim around the neck area
the agri benefits most from full bore than the rest of the shotguns
exotic portal
Won't render a new rev, again for 4-5 million
exotic portal
but you can put fire frenze on it
we'll see
quaint verge
my kant has fullbore and no respite since its my own pref.
exotic portal
my kant has fullbore and no respite since its my own pref.
Good luck on the million heresy killed frame.
exotic portal
already done with that since before patch 13
No wonder you didn't care for kills.
median steeple
Zealot has fallen millions must use guns
exotic portal
that kant special applies fire <:standespair:1169793136231469167>
shredder with power blessing and crit on continouse fire and inscrease on mag size/what not
better
tender moss
Zealot has fallen millions must use guns
Billions must #veteran-class
quaint verge
Columnus braced or IAG
shredder is okay, it does what its meant to do now.
pre patch 13 was just dumb for shredder
exotic portal
shredder is okay, it does what its meant to do now.
well i choose not to cheese the just a flesh wound at release
quaint verge
bold of you to assume that i cheese all achievements
quaint verge
@lusty turtle look at this guy trying to start shitte
tender moss
quaint verge
wasting time
exotic portal
wasting time <:standespair:1169793136231469167>
did the twins penance Hard mode first try
lusty turtle
I hope you’re feeling ok <:peepolove:632255612851322890>
I lived 
tender moss
alive
quaint verge
I lived <:AmeliaApprob:791139586969305108>
but at what cost?
exotic portal
<:Servoskull:736623579403124857>
tender moss
I keep putting it off
exotic portal
I keep putting it off
Ran once on damn to look around, 2nd with a group up for hard mode and finished
lusty turtle
but at what cost?
lumgd flat
quaint verge
lumgd flat
just glad you survived 
tender moss
Ran once on damn to look around, 2nd with a group up for hard mode and finished
the map is pretty nice
exotic portal
the map is pretty nice
Yeah, it's nice to skip now
tender moss
isnt there a secrete hard mode too
exotic portal
isnt there a secrete hard mode too
oh, yeah.
quaint verge
so secret that you can search for it online
tender moss
True
quaint verge
so fun that the rest of the maps turned dull
tender moss
Just boot me in the fight
exotic portal
Just boot me in the fight
wooden river
Readying a stim with M2 and casting Chastise crashes the entire lobby
quaint verge
Readying a stim with M2 and casting Chastise crashes the entire lobby
too much stim-ulation
wooden river
Just happened to me lmao
hushed knoll
too much stim-ulation<:standespair:1169793136231469167>
I see what you did there hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hushed knoll
I lived <:AmeliaApprob:791139586969305108>
I will make dinner to celebrate
lusty turtle
quaint verge
I see what you did there hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Breath
hushed knoll
That is the face of excitement
quaint verge
<:WitheredGator:994383720133951602>
Run
gray ice
Readying a stim with M2 and casting Chastise crashes the entire lobby
im gonna test this and it better be correct so I can get a crusade started
wooden river
im gonna test this and it better be correct so I can get a crusade started
I might try it in a private lobby after this
gray ice
I might try it in a private lobby after this
It didn't crash the lobby but it crashed my game
wooden river
It didn't crash the lobby but it crashed my game
Weird. What happened to me was:
- I did Chastise while readying the stim because I thought it'd look funny
- Game instantly crashed
- I relaunched and got no prompt to rejoin the game
- Everyone I had been playing with was not in a game or in another game
atomic sparrow
i will use autoclicker mod for the melee and guns and FS wont stop me
wooden river
My guess is that there's no animation for charging with a stim held aloft lol
native cargo
It didn't crash the lobby but it crashed my game
The power of God is on our side now. We can crash our game reliably now
atomic sparrow
with no survivors
hushed jolt
Hello zealots
Would anyone mind explaining why the heavy sword is considered to be so good?
I’ve heard some people call it the best all round weapon for the class and I’m not quite sure I understand what makes it so strong
ember yew
I’ve heard some people call it the best all round weapon for the class and I’m n...
there's a lot of "best all around" weapons for the class, Heavy Sword is just one of them.
hushed jolt
Right
ember yew
Right
if you want a heavy sword for general use, it will look like this, Deathblow can also be exchanged with Rampage, if you happen to get your hands on Sword with that and resources are limited
tropic pelican
it's good damage, high cleave and can take care of armour through h1 special loop
olive raven
best weapons are crusher & heavy sword tbh
Crusher is less braindead
Heavy sword is brain dead.
your choice tbh
ember yew
still quartz
Ironhelm if you love the Emperor more than others
ember yew
I wouldn’t have though crusher would be that good
it received buffs
still quartz
hushed jolt
Ironhelm if you love the Emperor more than others
Based
small heron
I like my big chain swords. Not the best, but by no means weak.
Crusher is great crowd control and perfect to keep your group healthy as everything, even the armored ragers and their ilk end up getting thrown around.
hushed jolt
I love the thunder hammer and combat knife because of their stupid burst damage
still quartz
If Ironhelm has no fans, it's cause I died
hushed jolt
Evicerator feels awesome in a crit buukd
hushed jolt
I like my big chain swords. Not the best, but by no means weak.
Crusher is grea...
The special attack is that strong?
small heron
Yes, though only if it is over 60% under that the armored ones stagger but won't fall down usually.
hushed jolt
Stagger alone is really nice
lone pecan
It's a lot of fun to bully ragers and everything else with the crusher 
hushed jolt
Nice
small heron
Early on the crusher even staggered the corrupted ogryn on a special attack. I miss that. It was hilarious seeing the grenade stagger animation because of something half it's height smacked it with what ammounts to a metal baseball bat.
olive raven
I wouldn’t have though crusher would be that good
Kills everything quick, staggers fucking everything, best CC ever so
umbral kindle
Finesse is nice
wooden river
Crusher Light 1 > Heavy 1 > Light 1 is great for keeping hordes staggered
throw in a charged attack if there's anything armored in there
open echo
or light charged spam
wooden river
Light 2 > Heavy 2 > Light 2 is your single-target overhead bonks combo
light charge or push attack charge spam is very safe
umbral kindle
Isn't heavy 1 the bonk?
lone pecan
Yeah
abstract venture
3 questions incoming
wooden river
It is actually yeah
umbral kindle
Yeah L1 >H2 is hordes H1>L2 is bonk bonk
abstract venture
Worth rolling this chainaxe? Idk much about them and if so what am I looking for
umbral kindle
Defense is a dump yeah
abstract venture
There's also a pretty bad vraks mkIII autogun with headhunter 4 and crucian roulette 3 from melk for 2300, worth buying even if just for blessings?
umbral kindle
Possibly
abstract venture
For reference it has 70%-78% with ammo as the highest and stab and stopping power 60 and 63
abstract venture
Would just be useful for maybe headhunter or crucian
Okay I'll go for it to grab headhunter
Flamer is also in melks for 2600, I have coins for both but not sure if it's worth just to pull a lvl3 blessing
Very thankful for the help aswell saving me a lot of time if I make a wrong choice
lone pecan
I wouldn't buy that flamer, personally, If you are that short on coins
dense field
Flamer is also in melks for 2600, I have coins for both but not sure if it's wor...
It's not worth it honestly
Overpressure is not working as it should and fan the flames is not something to go an extra mile for
abstract venture
Not terribly short on coins around 10k and will do another character within the week
blazing fossil
wtf did they nerf the game? Just had a match damnation (standard) where noone got over 300k
abstract venture
Overpressure is not working as it should and fan the flames is not something to ...
Ahh okay flamers never interested me very much personally but thought if they're there may as well see
abstract venture
Oh I'm a bit of a perfectionist with my stats I pick 1 dump and everything else needs to be 75%+ for me to roll it
If I'm doing it may as well do it right
dense field
Ahh okay flamers never interested me very much personally but thought if they're...
Quick rundown on flamers: you want Burn stat to be at least at 76%. Cloud radius is the second most important stat. Damage is not that important though.
abstract venture
Oh damn I know for sure I've thrown some good ones
I'm assuming mobility as first dump but damage can be around 70% and it's still ideal?
Everything else minimum 76%
lone pecan
Damage could be even lower than that and still do fine, as far as I know the tick damage from flamer and purg staff doesn't really benefit from the damage stat
76% burn for max stacks, cloud radius for more range
quaint verge
also dont try to fish for the overpressure blessing
does only boost the dmg per hit
not the burn
abstract venture
How useful can the flamers actually be? I use a chainsword for clearing hoards and either a rev/bolter/heavy laspistol for elites
I feel it would be hard to work it into most builds as it does things you already do just uses more ammo
hushed agate
abstract venture
Hadron thanks you for the contribution to their bulging retirement fund
soft tiger
Just noticed I have an ok heavy sword, nvm I'm not upgraded that
abstract venture
Those stats make me so hopeful
But I can tell you've been disappointed by hadrons antics once or twice
lone pecan
How useful can the flamers actually be? I use a chainsword for clearing hoards a...
Thunderhammer and flamer maybe? Flamer for hordes, hammer for big guys and monstrosities
quaint verge
Thunderhammer and flamer maybe? Flamer for hordes, hammer for big guys and monst...
flamer for elite group if you use chastise
it will downgrade the armour stats on ranged too
abstract venture
Thunderhammer and flamer maybe? Flamer for hordes, hammer for big guys and monst...
Oh hmmm sort of like how you would run a semi auto or burst gun with damage perks/blessing cranked to 11?
quaint verge
slaughter & thrust for hammer is ok at dealing with hordes
lone pecan
Oh hmmm sort of like how you would run a semi auto or burst gun with damage perk...
I don't know, I have never used one of those yet
quaint verge
Oh hmmm sort of like how you would run a semi auto or burst gun with damage perk...
you can 2-3 shot a crusher with a kant while using chastise 
abstract venture
I can hit him with special full charge heavy from my XV and activate fury of faithful for a one shot on crushers
I am that dude
copper hawk
Slurp
olive raven
How useful can the flamers actually be? I use a chainsword for clearing hoards a...
pretty useful
olive raven
shame its a mk7
soft tiger
shame its a mk7
Yeah exactly, decided not to do it
olive raven
@royal vortex youve converted me
copper hawk
Downvote
See crusher?
2 the shredder w u leux
#srry
Another day another slay..
copper hawk
What the slorp.
U need 3 play
Knife
W lac and flesh tear
Not crusher
Smh my heade..
lean lark
3 play
copper hawk
Whaddagloop.m
left iron
lean lark
no you dumbass its 2 play
lean lark
the price of grapes is two
copper hawk
humble tangle
what are good blessings for this weapon?
zinc talon
@olive raven leux I helped a youngin coming back to revamped crusher get up to speed with a few vids and explained a trick or two that really boost QoL when using the weapon
zinc talon
thread more or less sstarts there^ if you'd like to see if anything's there to soak up some knowhow
copper hawk
Thread startz here actually >
zinc talon
gawd that one displayed as having an alpha
that one's somehow worse
I give up you see comedy was achieved everyone may now laugh
frozen glen
what are good blessings for this weapon?
sprint efficiency to flak and rampage to tier 4 just to get it to 550
ornate bone
What blessings do I need for the chainsword to effectively kill Crushers/maulers?
frozen glen
u dont have to upgrade rampage but do it anyway for the perfect rating
zinc talon
550 is the objective here yes
humble tangle
sprint efficiency to flak and rampage to tier 4 just to get it to 550
i was thinking maybe crit?
zinc talon
always 550 everything
ornate bone
Feels like I'm just inconveniencing them sometimes
frosty herald
New chaxe feels very sluggish to use
humble tangle
or would flak be better?
zinc talon
every 550 you make comes with you to the pearly gates
frozen glen
crit perks are bad on weapons
ornate bone
And not actually hurts
zinc talon
New chaxe feels very sluggish to use
you're not bonking enough then
ornate bone
New chaxe feels very sluggish to use
Need momentum to unlock its smoothness
And a lot of shoves
frozen glen
if you want crit you can just do a crit build
zinc talon
light attack has usage up to and including crushers
frozen glen
the 5% is inconsequential
zinc talon
it'll jostle even them
ornate bone
Yeah
The only bad thing about it is that without momentum procs the base dodge is kinda small feeling
humble tangle
the 5% is inconsequential
mkay
ornate bone
But once it's on
Just kill everything
zinc talon
make that OG chainaxe look like a 1h chainsword instead
and run a mission swimming in dopamine
cuz you just got a brand new weapon
ornate bone
make that OG chainaxe look like a 1h chainsword instead
Makes perfect sense to me
olive raven
thread more or less sstarts there^ if you'd like to see if anything's there to s...
thx for the offer but i have a josho
frosty herald
Cant wait for the perfect 650 weapon
fiery ingot
wot
happened
i got pinged
as soon as i turn my pc for the first time after that 5.9 quake i see ping
solar gorge
there wasn't that many Quake games made i'm afraid
surreal marlin
why cant i see the wounds stack from curioos and talents
abstract venture
I am thinking the same
abstract venture
why cant i see the wounds stack from curioos and talents
Do you mean during missions you don't have full wounds you should?
abstract venture
Yes 5 in Malice difficulty or below
fiery ingot
surreal marlin
wounds dont work in heresy or damnation?
abstract venture
In heresy and damnation difficulty and you go down in wounds
solar gorge
they do you just get less as default
2 wounds default for non-ogryns
then you add up whatever you gain thru curios and talent
abstract venture
I run 3 wound curios because martyrdom build
abstract venture
I have heard 17% toughness is worth it on one curio but I have 2x 5% toughness as perks so I'm not too bothered
Out of curiosity what do you run on your curios as perks?
lone pecan
Gunners, toughness and dockets, because I'm poor
abstract venture
Hmm okay currently I'm sitting on 1x gunners 1x snipers, 2x health, 3x ability cooldown and 2x toughness
Used to run 1x bombers and another gunners in place of the toughness but I like the extra damage absorb in damnation+
olive raven
ability cooldown i typically wouldnt recommend cause theres so much CDR in the tree
olive raven
I have heard 17% toughness is worth it on one curio but I have 2x 5% toughness a...
and this is a "Do you play at only certain stacks" thing
abstract venture
I do try to keep my health below half for the extra martyr stacks so the toughness is useful in my case
I do know people who recommended healing whenever possible but I'll take a down and lose a wound to corruption to heal a lot of the time
azure mortar
something something it's always better to heal
abstract venture
My build leans on the extra swing speed to hit more regular crits but if I'm 2 wounds or lower I seek healing
frosty herald
injecting martyr zealots with random needles i found laying on the ground
olive raven
injecting martyr zealots with random needles i found laying on the ground
always
abstract venture
The whole crits give ability gives fury 20% swing speed = more crits but martyrdom
olive raven
i mean
swing speed isnt magically giving more crits
its just giving the same amount, faster
abstract venture
Shred tho
inner crane
Shred 
pallid hemlock
what's the consensus on the new chainaxe?
I lucked into one with elites/flak and slaughterer/thrust
olive raven
what's the consensus on the new chainaxe?
from memory, its good
pallid hemlock
and it's been working quite well for me, if not heavy sword levels of bullshit
surreal marlin
is rashad axe good?
olive raven
is rashad axe good?
braindead good
pallid hemlock
rashad axe is very good and also very boring
olive raven
its the most braindead zealot weapon
surreal marlin
what about exec?
olive raven
Exec?
pallid hemlock
mans lost
surreal marlin
the big mkxv chain swrd
olive raven
its also good
pallid hemlock
they're both good
olive raven
not as braindead
pallid hemlock
one almost as braindead
olive raven
the evis id say is A tier, chain axe low A
rashad is S tier
Heavy sword is S tier
crusher is s tier
pallid hemlock
yeah I definitely have to work harder on the chainaxe
surreal marlin
is rashad only good if u go martyer?
pallid hemlock
but I have more fun
olive raven
everything except taxe is B tier or better
pallid hemlock
rashad is good for anyone with hands
olive raven
is rashad only good if u go martyer?
its better with momentum tbh
lone pecan
one almost as braindead
But swinging a 2 handed chain sword is extra fun, so it's fine
pallid hemlock
not complaining too hard in that it's a very sensible and intuitive moveset
surreal solstice
rashad is good for anyone with hands
I'd argue single hand is enough
olive raven
you can just turn off your brain with a rashad
lone pecan
I like simple, I'm still a noob
pallid hemlock
monitor even
olive raven
tbh yea
surreal marlin
momentum best?>?
frozen ibex
Martyrdom more damage more attack speed.
pallid hemlock
I like simple, I'm still a noob
fair, you'll probably hit a point where you like mucking about with weird shit
surreal marlin
Martyrdom more damage more attack speed.
if ur at lw hp
olive raven
Martyr is just generally good
frozen ibex
Yes that's the point of the keystone.
olive raven
Momentum is superb with finesse weapons
frozen ibex
4% attack speed per stack.
lone pecan
Martyrdom seems very risky if you are not almost perfect in melee, am I wrong? I am sure I would eventually die because of damage that goes past toughness
ornate bone
Martyrdom seems very risky if you are not almost perfect in melee, am I wrong? I...
If you play it like vt2 zealot yes
But you don't have to tank your heath
It just goes down with you doing things naturally
pallid hemlock
you have your invuln/regen to fall back on, the left toughness regen path takes a lot of heat off, and the centre path lets you regen back over wound thresholds
ornate bone
It's probably in the best spot it will be for a while cos of med stims
pallid hemlock
and yeah unlike VT2 you don't have quite the same stability and safety
but VT2 zealot was straight busted and stupid
ornate bone
Temp hp moment
pallid hemlock
yep
ornate bone
When your first move as vt2 zealot is to get poked till your ass bleeds
lone pecan
How do you heal back up over wound thresholds?
ornate bone
How do you heal back up over wound thresholds?
If your team sucks just use the med station
If it doesn't suck
Use med stim
That's my rule of thumb
pallid hemlock
How do you heal back up over wound thresholds?
the centre bit at the start has the 25% of damage heal, but outside of that, usual med resources
ornate bone
Only reason it's truly risky is if your team is kinda bad you uhh
Basically don't have a keystone because it's too risky to go too low hp
pallid hemlock
and ofc, every couple of minutes you get to be invincible and regen health
ornate bone
Ye
next crow
if your team can win without you ever losing health and getting martyrdom stacks then you don't need the stacks
ornate bone
It's basically a funny balancing act
next crow
if your team can't, you'll naturally lose health and get the stacks for increased performance
ornate bone
Yep
pallid hemlock
self-regulating lol
ornate bone
So don't treat it as it needing to be active 24/7
pallid hemlock
the more you need the power the more it comes online
ornate bone
Just think of it as you powering up to your final form
And giving you more room for error
pallid hemlock
So don't treat it as it needing to be active 24/7
this the same bullshit that Vets keep harping on about
that Psykers learned was a trap very early on
free buff stacks for doing things you're going to do anyway
doesn't mean it needs to be permanently maxed out
ornate bone
Ye
It doesn't need to be active 24/7
It just needs to be active when you need it bruv
pallid hemlock
mfs wanted to put down roots
ornate bone
The weapon swap one
Was the stupidest malding
I NEED TO KEEP SWAPPING WEAPON TO KEEP STACKS
But
You don't need stacks all the time
pallid hemlock
weapon swap one felt like a passive aggressive jab from FS and it was great
"hey you maggots keep sitting on your ranged weapon only"
ornate bone
If anything it felt like it was encouraging "proper vt2 mechanics"
pallid hemlock
"here's a keystone to teach you to play properly"
ornate bone
Right? Lol
Ofc you need to switch to melee when garbage comes in
Wtf you mean you need to use your gun during garbage hordes
frozen ibex
Hrm I suicide right at the start to get 5/6 staacks going.
ornate bone
"but my stacksss"
frozen ibex
Then the map turns to paste. 
pallid hemlock
ofc they all malded about the marksman keystone instead
weapon specialist was hella strong from the get go
lone pecan
Would martyrdom with only 4 wounds be worth it, if you don't want to go all in with wound curious, for a crusher build for example? Using the crusher with crits works, but it feels wrong
ornate bone
Marksman is pretty clunky
But rightfully so
surreal solstice
The weapon swap one
Which one is it? I don't remember
ornate bone
That shit has some overpowered breakpoints
ornate bone
Which one is it? I don't remember
The weapon specialists
frozen ibex
Nah go all in if you're gonna go martydom. Otherwise just go momentum.
ornate bone
You get a buff when you switch weapons based on how many you kill with your previous weapon basically
So you get aspd and dodge when you kill with ranged and switch to meee
And you get reload speed and damage when you switch from melee to ranged
And the main complaint was
pallid hemlock
it's basically the gameplay loop if you're not fixated on shooting
ornate bone
"wuh I need to switch to my gun every 10 seconds to get a kill to keep the aspd stack going"
olive raven
Would martyrdom with only 4 wounds be worth it, if you don't want to go all in w...
not really.
pallid hemlock
they told on themselves hard lmao
ornate bone
But
But you don't need it all the time up
olive raven
youd be better off with momentum
ornate bone
they told on themselves hard lmao
Right
The biggest tell was how none of them were talking about the free reload with the revolver
lone pecan
Would momentum work well with chorus or only really with chastise then?
ornate bone
It was just a circle jerk of "I need to use revolver bullet on horde blahhh"
frozen ibex
You can use any ability with any keystone.
ornate bone
Then again those are probably the same people who use up all their ammo during aurics shooting hordes so
ornate bone
"use my sword? But it's a game with a gun x
"why game give me gun if I have to use sword"
pallid hemlock
also they insist on hoovering up the ammo even when there's a gunlugger ogryn who can use it well
ornate bone
Worst part is how many people upvoted it
pallid hemlock
like, chief, if there's a good gun lugger, vet is no longer the ammo protagonist
ornate bone
I don't wanna be elitist but
surreal solstice
veterangaming.gif
frozen ibex
I play stealth loner with martyrdom/momentum it's very cool.
ornate bone
If I can finish an auric with a br auto and not take too much auto
lone pecan
You can use any ability with any keystone.
Well yes, but I don't want to troll my team by having a bad build, that's why I'm asking
pallid hemlock
don't worry about it too much
ornate bone
You shouldn't run out of ammo with a revolve that 1taps specials
frozen ibex
Nah no such thing. As long as you have fun bro.
ornate bone
Nah no such thing. As long as you have fun bro.
^
pallid hemlock
as long as you bring a good attitude and awareness you'll be well above average
frozen ibex
Don't care what people say you must do.
ornate bone
Prime thing to remember
Have fun
And enjoy yourself
And be chill
It only gets bad when people try to gatekeep randomly without actually "knowing how to play"
Playing badly or inefficiently isn't really a problem
frozen ibex
I've had teammates who take all the ammo. Don't care it means I gotta play melee only.
ornate bone
But playing badly and getting mad at your team is the big nono
pallid hemlock
Right
The biggest tell was how none of them were talking about the free reload ...
yeah honestly it really feels like the median vet wants to be Simo Hayha
ornate bone
Not even a problem to me if they wanna mag dump every horde personally
It's just that the whine was beyond unreasonable
When vet already has one of the best consistent melee weapons in psword
pallid hemlock
But playing badly and getting mad at your team is the big nono
yeah this, accountability is super important if you wanna improve
lone pecan
Fair, I will go and slap together a fun momentum build then and bully some ragers later, thanks guys
ornate bone
Fair, I will go and slap together a fun momentum build then and bully some rager...
Haffun
pallid hemlock
it's very easy to blame other people because you feel guilt or shame
goes for life as well
ornate bone
Ye
I don't even care too much if people fuck up
pallid hemlock
When vet already has one of the best consistent melee weapons in psword
I have Opinions on this
ornate bone
I've got like 600 hours in Fatshark games
People play bad or make mistakes all the time
pallid hemlock
power sword mk 6 is straight busted
ornate bone
It's only a problem when you try to lecture people
pallid hemlock
I really want to see a modded realm where a martyrdom zealot can use a power sword
ornate bone
power sword mk 6 is straight busted
Probably is once you have power cycler
That thing is just disgusting
ornate bone
I really want to see a modded realm where a martyrdom zealot can use a power swo...
VT2 did let you use all weapons on all characters eventually ( on a mod * )
Maybe one day if modded single player realm is a thing it can do that
pallid hemlock
yeah current deal is power cycler plus brutal momentum, or sunder if you like goofy shit
when something displaces Slaughterer...
ornate bone
Vet is honestly has some of the best stuff they can fall back on atm in my opinion
Psword
Plasma gun
Shout
surreal solstice
VT2 did let you use all weapons on all characters eventually ( on a mod * )
Imagine ogryn with force staff
ornate bone
Permanent ammo replenishment
ornate bone
It's not flashy
But that's Kerillian style utility of never dying
And having answers for everything
pallid hemlock
and on a pretty sturdy chassis if they're doing it right
ornate bone
Ye I'm amused people call vet squishy
pallid hemlock
Vet toughness isn't just "lol 400% Toughness all the time" any more
ornate bone
When they have a lot of damage reduction when toughness > X
surreal solstice
Permanent ammo replenishment
Don't forget nade regen
pallid hemlock
but they're still really resilient if you respect your windows of power
ornate bone
I have been able to tank a mauler overhead with shout
ornate bone
but they're still really resilient if you respect your windows of power
Ye
Only true squishy character is arguably psyker
ornate bone
Because if you're not venting atm you die
pallid hemlock
used to be Psyker main but it's exhausting to play after work
ornate bone
It's why I'm just doing the chill psyker staff + scream
pallid hemlock
it's like playing VT2 Cata+
ornate bone
Don't need my team to carry
Cos I just knock everything over with sunder+ clear chaff
And I can kill Crushers by myself if needed
Used to run purgatus but can't rely on pub teammates to clear maulers/crushers often
It's just like vt2 all over again
pallid hemlock
pubs are interesting
sometimes you find some astonishingly competent and cracked people
ornate bone
I mainly play on sea
And the pubs tend to be highly skilled from my experience
ornate bone
Lul
pallid hemlock
SEA feels more tryhard at baseline
analog mango
yo guys gm , im new here, whats the rate 1-10 on the twins mission ? on damnation
pallid hemlock
used to live there, sometimes stretch over to matchmake there
analog mango
like , how hard i it
ornate bone
and then you have some really goofy jabronis
i have been both
frozen ibex
Eu pubs is really sus
pallid hemlock
i have been both
aye we all have been heh
just gotta be easy to carry when brain isn't wrinkled
ornate bone
Been having some nice games on sea
Helps that my ping doesn't suck here too
I play with eu/na friends sometimes but being on 200+ ping is not a good experience
quaint verge
Eu pubs is really sus
US pubs is full of larpers
ornate bone
i will visit my fiance in march and then i will play with pennsylvania frens 🌞
frozen ibex
US pubs is full of larpers <a:NODDERS:1073320123227713608>
Joke on you I am the sus player