#veteran-class

1 messages · Page 1743 of 1

unreal nova
#

But that does explain a scum taking only a tiny bit of damage when they should be taking more.

#

Also, eating two overheads on psyker.

#

_>

tame lodge
#

That attack speed does make guns go brrrr

hearty panther
#

The hardest part of the event is making sure your teammates actually pick up the fucking skulls.

tidal fox
#

i have not had that problem

#

everyone picks up da skullz

silver patrol
#

i don't really bother

#

not much point in it

outer cosmos
#

As long as I snag a couple I’m satisfied

#

I’m doing my part

tall torrent
#

Updated the section for explaining damage-related bonuses, should be a lot more intuitive now

unreal nova
grand perch
brazen mist
#

whats bolter rifle dump stat?

narrow frost
#

Collateral

elfin glacier
#

has a weapon like the heavy sword become more usable now that Carpace armor isnt so abundant?

quiet lark
#

was good before, is better now

toxic reef
toxic reef
unreal nova
toxic reef
#

ah ok

elfin glacier
#

that seems most of the big dangerous waves now

toxic reef
#

prob

#

assuming you mean scab ragers

elfin glacier
#

Ive seen like rager waves with 10 to 15 of them at once. wild lol

hearty panther
#

oops all ragers

tidal fox
#

they should introduce a difficulty where all normal infested become ragers

hearty panther
#

they did actually

#

that was the event just before this one

toxic reef
#

yeah the last event

hearty panther
#

it was pretty meh

toxic reef
#

nah it was great

hearty panther
#

i liked some of the end events

#

but the actual map runs were snoozy

#

maybe 700-800 enemies a match

#

hab dreyko was a very good time at the tree

toxic reef
#

mercantile was so much fun

tidal fox
#

ok maybe this time increase the amount of enemies by 200%

toxic reef
#

but ye they did state there's less enemies overall

tidal fox
#

yeah

toxic reef
#

20 min or less for missions was common

#

on auric that is

tidal fox
#

rework havoc so that there's only ragers instead of regular infested with 10x spawn rate and you balanced havoc gg

silver patrol
#

it's always a pleasure to see the duelling sword veteran get destroyed in a single second by 8 ragers

distant plaza
#

Is there some bad etiquette rules of darktide somewhere?

silver patrol
#

nothing that isn't common sense

brazen mist
#

is bolter rifle good

distant plaza
#

Obviously ledging someone with a barrel intentionally is bad form (unless it’s a smyker? staregryn )
But common sense ain’t so common

silver patrol
#

i hate it

brazen mist
#

and plasma gun?

pseudo fiber
pseudo fiber
strong crypt
#

What would you all say the dump stat for infantry lasgun should be?

strong crypt
#

Thank you for your service, the answer I expected but just wanted to make sure

pseudo fiber
outer cosmos
#

on vet the slow draw speed is a big downside and it is very ammo hungry

strong crypt
pseudo fiber
strong crypt
#

LETS GO

pseudo fiber
#

General advice

#

usually mobility

#

there are a few exceptions

#

cleave targets on Power sword

#

damage on flamer

#

idk the psyker ones

quiet lark
quiet lark
quiet lark
somber axle
# distant plaza Is there some bad etiquette rules of darktide somewhere?

If someone is low on ammo (red/orange) and you're fine (white ammo) don't ammo hog. Good etiquette is pinging ammo for others to use too

Don't shoot poxbursters near allies and do not shoot them when an ally is moving closer to shove either

Don't shoot barrels near allies

Don't use medicae if an ally has bar(s) of corruption and need it more unless there are extra charges for you too

Don't wake Daemonhosts unless you are prepared to engage them and feel confident 1v1ing, always expect that other players may be preoccupied with fights (fighting elites/specials) and may not be able to hard commit to killing the Daemonhost fight

#

That's all I can think of

pallid jetty
#

dont ping spam when you're downed

stuck gorge
distant plaza
pallid jetty
#

dont put ping target on lmb

stuck gorge
hollow ibex
somber axle
#

Just not poxbursters

#

If you pop a poxburster and someone goes boom you know you did wrong

turbid ibex
#

you shouldnt be shooting bursters in the first place

quiet lark
#

tbf with the amt of bugged busters rn i tend to just shoot / throwing knife them if it's convenient for me and the team

somber axle
#

But I use Lasguns so ammo isn't a concern for me

hollow ibex
#

yeah that's the wrong way to do it

#

you only shoot bursters when the psyker is nearby

mortal horizon
#

is Uncanny still good/wanted on sapper mk1 shovel? or nah i havent played since the uncanny and armor changes

tall torrent
brazen mist
#

I wonder if skitarii is just gonna be veteran with gimmicks

#

like arc effects and pet servitor

#

but essentially a ranged gunner

#

I tried psyker and hivescum but I like veteran best

#

psyker I need to get inferno staff still though

quasi surge
#

For which weapons is the talent Opening Salvo designed for? 10% crit for the first 20% of ammo. Other than maybe the double barrel shotgun I'm not sure if I understand the use case.

tall torrent
tame lodge
#

🗣️

tall torrent
#

There’s a reason veteran is code name “default”

tame lodge
#

Load bearing veteran

whole solstice
tawny badger
#

I see a poxburster a healthy distance away from the group and I go to try and shoot it

#

Now why are my teammates doing all this to shove it

tame lodge
#

No but real answer

#

They are intended to "fit in any composition"

#

So let's see if they have are veteran tier

#

Or the "doing their own thing" tier

pseudo fiber
#

Gimme lots of weapons

#

that's all I want

#

skit can take lots on tabletop

tame lodge
#

Zealot has a tier called zealot

#

It's pretty self explanatory

#

Then psyker tier which has psyker and scum

strange phoenix
#

Skitarii is just Kerillian in an admech suit, heal-stealing and all

#

Screencap this

#

(Which in turn is branch of vet even if VT came out first)

hard lake
#

Why do so many veteran stealth builds use the combat blade

tame lodge
#

Deadly commandos

hard lake
#

I dont follow

tame lodge
#

Knife has high mobility and high damage

hard lake
#

Ah

tame lodge
#

So you end up wanting to move fast for maximum stealth

tall torrent
#

u can ofc use smth else

#

the sample builds in my guide are just meant to be samples

hard lake
#

Might use rashed

#

Rashad?

hard lake
#

I havent experimented with many of the melee weapons yet

tame lodge
#

Knife is pretty easy

#

Always hit heads

surreal rune
#

dueling sword feels pretty mid

tall torrent
#

it kinda is now

slow sky
tall torrent
#

it's just thematic

slow sky
#

The knife gets an inherent 1.25x backstab multiplier but thats not really well known but that is an actual reason but I dont think people are leaning into that if they even know it exists at all

tall torrent
#

and infil marksman gives really high dmg in burst

#

also works with frag spam pretty well

hard lake
#

I dont throw as much frags as I should

#

Its very strong

slow sky
#

Better than 90% of players already if you recognize theyre strong lol

hard lake
#

They just turn entire groups into a fine mist

#

Im just very hesitant to use them because of friendly fire concerns

pseudo fiber
#

go nuts

slow sky
#

Which there arent any

hard lake
#

Oh fr?

pseudo fiber
#

yup

slow sky
#

Absolutely none

hard lake
#

Whats the green damage marker then

slow sky
hard lake
#

Ah

#

Good

#

Its way too easy to FF in this game

slow sky
#

So theres code for it and damage profiles n stuff

pseudo fiber
#

it just indicates your shot hit a teammate

also it used to reduce your cleave but htat's gone now

slow sky
#

But none are enabled

hard lake
#

Ah

slow sky
#

But it is funny because in some instances you can trigger on hit buff effects from hitting teammates because some lingering parts are there

hard lake
#

Also i am a bit confused how I'm suppoused to use stealth with the DB

#

Is it mainly to close distance and get out of sticky situations?

tall torrent
#

it sort of does everything

#

it's really high move speed & damage

hard lake
#

Ah

tall torrent
#

both are super strong benefits in this game

hard lake
#

Should also make weakspots easier to hit

#

Considering you have 8 seconds to properly aim

tall torrent
#

a common strat is

#

stealth, underhand throw frags at groups of elites, break stealth with melee/ranged attack and go on a tear

hard lake
#

Tear?

slow sky
slow sky
# hard lake Oh?

Just a "shooting mode" ability
Highlighting enemies n stuff to make them easier to target

hard lake
#

Ah

slow sky
hard lake
#

I don't really understand why he got launched lol

#

Isnt it a good thing for him to shock the enemies like that

pseudo fiber
#

You'd think so but no!

slow sky
tawny badger
#

It also kinda throws people off when their opponents uh

#

Are stopped dead in their tracks like that

hard lake
#

Ah I see

#

Seems rather boring

slow sky
#

Yeah

#

Thats why people dont like it

tawny badger
#

Like it’s nice for a bit but then you’re forcing your teammates to have to go and walk up to each enemy and beat them to death

#

Instead of having the enemies come to them for easy grouping n’ whatnot

slow sky
#

That specific clip was ainz running dclaw, which has a parry requiring enemies to attack him to trigger
Only for every enemy to be unable to do that

#

Which is why he turns around and solves that issue

surreal rune
#

dodge, parry, or perfect block talents also require enemies to proc them

tawny badger
#

And then smite deals virtually no fucking damage so despite it being extremely solid CC you’re also not Doing Any Damage

surreal rune
#

which requires an attack, which isnt possible with smite

slow sky
#

Its toxic but also like
Idk some people want to have fun

surreal rune
#

so some of the dps is lower on the enemies

turbid ibex
#

smite CCs both the enemies and the person using it

slow sky
#

Its why a lot of people just hate a lot of the "meta" stuff

#

Purg, rumbler, chorus, smite, etc

tawny badger
#

worlds first horde shooter where the playerbase is like
"I FUCKING HATE CC"

slow sky
#

Because all just shut down the game and some also kill everything at the same time
The issue is that these render the gameplay of the game nonexistent for everyone else on the team

tawny badger
#

The only acceptable form of CC is ogryn/arbites shield + maul, trust and believe

tawny badger
#

"MOVE 🗣️ 🔥 🔥 ‼️ "

surreal rune
#

KNEEL

pseudo fiber
#

"SCATTER!" from the fatalist is another fav

tawny badger
#

Mod that replaces all BtL voice lines with the horn of a 16-wheeler

quiet lark
tame lodge
#

AWOOOOOL 🗣️ 🏃‍➡️ 🛡️

clever flicker
#

Where is your guide?

hollow ibex
clever flicker
#

Im using an agrip exe stance build and i dont know if i should use the power sword or the devils claw. I need something mostly for horde clear but can still deal with carapace

#

Any thoughts?

tall torrent
#

Power sword

clever flicker
final osprey
#

The power sword with more power swings per use is amazing

clever flicker
# tall torrent Both

Tragic. The devils claw sword looks so cool too. I figured the reposte attack would have been sufficient for crushers/maulers, no?

tall torrent
clever flicker
tall torrent
#

I suggest u check guide first

clever flicker
#

Normally I just put a slug in their fucking chromed out temple, but when there's like 5 of them in a cramped hallway and an Entourage of ragers around them im kinda cooked

clever flicker
final osprey
#

What's more important for the boltgun, the bleed or brittle blessing?

#

And how useful is the bolt pistol explode on close range hit blessing

tall torrent
tall torrent
quiet lark
hollow ibex
#

it's pretty good on hiv, unsurprisingly

#

mid on all everyone else

final osprey
#

I found a boltgun that is 290 power with 80 potential in everything except mobility at 60, if I empower it to 500 is it guaranteed that all of the stats reach their max potential?

hollow ibex
#

yes

final osprey
#

Should I?

#

Its 280 power blue rarity, it costs 80 plasteel and 20 diamantine to go to 290

hollow ibex
#

dump is collateral

#

mobility dump is still fine tho

final osprey
#

What does collateral do, and how much does mobility affect sprint?

shrewd topaz
#

You just brain off max it if it's right stat roll

hollow ibex
#

mobility also doesn't do much but it technically helps

shrewd topaz
#

Vet stagger when frags

#

And shout

#

And whatever else

final osprey
#

What would be the best dump stat for an assault chainsword?

tall torrent
timber kettle
#

Is this class one of the least played in lobbies? Or is it popular?

tall torrent
timber kettle
#

And which class would be rarest?

tall torrent
#

Does that even matter

abstract sand
#

none of them are particularly rare

final osprey
#

Lol I have a bolt pistol with 61 collateral and 79 mobility, I might upgrade it tomorrow

tame lodge
#

Big man has seen worse days

restive mountain
#

“What’s the best build in the game”

#

Comment

#

Thems the best ones

grand perch
#

best build is squad leader, i mean its the most upvoted on GL

#

the people have spoken

quiet lark
#

true

#

who up leading they squad

abstract sand
#

What's the best build in the game

hybrid plover
quiet lark
#

it's actually crackhead john wick

hybrid plover
#

It's the most upvoted GL build so it has to be true.

abstract sand
#

I'll take a look

hybrid plover
abstract sand
hybrid plover
#

That's not even the glaring issue

abstract sand
#

Plasma Gun longshot

#

Lol

hybrid plover
#

That's also fine.

#

It's something below

abstract sand
#

Oh my God

#

Born Leader over Demo Team

#

I weep

#

this is fine though

hybrid plover
#

It's not terrible for the most part until you realize there's no Demo Team.

#

On a build.

#

With frags.

abstract sand
#

These are the issues I see

hybrid plover
#

Which immediately makes the build so much worse than it has to be

abstract sand
#

Also I personally think the Power Falchion underperforms and the Power Sword is just better but I wouldn't judge a build to be immediately worse because of weapon choice

tame lodge
abstract sand
tame lodge
#

All the good players are there anyways

abstract sand
#

Banished to Sedition difficulty

#

Those poor lost souls

#

I used to be a hardline Veteran main. Then I played Scum and now I main them and haven't looked back

#

I should come back to my Vet to use the Plasma Gun

tame lodge
#

Sorry uh

#

The Skittles are requisitioning the plasma gun

#

You know how it is

brazen mist
#

Cadian skin where

brazen mist
#

is this good?

#

also this one

clever flicker
#

Depending on the build your going for will determine which mark is the best for you to use

clever flicker
brazen mist
tall torrent
brazen mist
#

which one is better though for havoc

#

slow firing or fast

tall torrent
brazen mist
#

im lvl 28

tall torrent
#

Ok do urself a favor and don’t think about it

clever flicker
#

If you have a high crit build and are using infernus with dum dum then use the torrent one

clever flicker
brazen mist
#

I think I got crit build

#

is the torrent better than mkVIc which is middle ground between fast and slow firing?

#

also Im trying hybrid with Plasma gun and power sword and its real good

#

whats plasma gun dump stat?

unreal nova
brazen mist
#

also why power cycler doesnt stack

#

I should have 3 energized swings but its just 2

unreal nova
#

Maybe you didn't use a tier 4 one?

brazen mist
#

ive power cycler t1 I think and then one from mastery

unreal nova
brazen mist
unreal nova
#

Yes, you need a T4 blessing.

#

Like, go to hadron and add the T4 blessing to it.

brazen mist
#

whats dump stat on power sword?

#

I need to first find a good one

#

then add blessing

unreal nova
clever flicker
# brazen mist is the torrent better than mkVIc which is middle ground between fast and slow fi...

The torrent offers the highest outright dps especially if you are constantly procing crits so the infernus blessings gets to stack up quickly. If you pair it with the shock trooper talent as well, your ammo stretches much further too. But if you arent using DoT effects and arent hitting an insane amount of crits the VIc may be the better choice as its more balanced and versatile. Really its gonna depend on what you are trying to do with your build

clever flicker
clever flicker
shrewd topaz
brazen mist
#

Gotta find guns

#

Gonna take a while

#

Spent 100k tryna find good mk6 power sword and didnt find any

worthy solar
#

just find any good power sword and change its mark to the correct one

brazen mist
#

You can?

worthy solar
#

dont need to get specifically the mk6 from gamble since you can just change it

brazen mist
#

Tf

shrewd topaz
#

I just said that 😭

clever flicker
full marsh
# brazen mist whats plasma gun dump stat?

68% Thermal Resistance and 72% Charge Rate is ideal if it can fire 8 consecutive hipfire shots. The decimals are hidden so not every Plasma Gun with those stats will be able to do that, so 69% Thermal Resistance and 71% Charge Rate is practically perfect too.

60% Thermal Resistance is also fine

blazing jetty
#

60% thermal can actually be more desirable in some cases

#

Doesn't hurt to have multiple plasma guns with different stats in your collection

hard lake
#

why do teammates straight up ignore downed teammates so often?

#

i know that randoms not being the best teammates is normal in every game

#

but i never really noticed it being so common compared to this game

worthy solar
#

it depends on how you die but atleast 30% of the time you're gonna be unrevivable in aurics or havocs

hard lake
#

i only have early game stuff

worthy solar
# hard lake oh im playing on Malice

well malice isn't too dangerous so idk why, it could be you're with other newer players playing on those difficulties and they don't know that you count as blocking while reviving someone

hard lake
#

AH

#

ah

#

sorry caps

worthy solar
#

wait it's meta..

thin stone
#

Is the infantry lasgun good now?

turbid ibex
#

Ehhhhh

#

Good would be pushing it

thin stone
#

Which Darktide youtuber is good?

#

For veteran builds

turbid ibex
#

Pinned guide

#

Avoid mr e and tanner like the plague

thin stone
#

Big-dom or smth

turbid ibex
#

Idk

#

I think they recommended power falchion in one of their builds though so i wouldnt trust him

tame lodge
#

I think Dom also recommended a build without Precision Strikes

#

That's a strike

#

So Dom out

thin stone
#

I mainly wanted a cadian trooper build

#

Using ilas + some decent/good melee

#

But buff ilas said that ilas is not good rn

turbid ibex
#

Its usable

tame lodge
#

It's there™

turbid ibex
quiet lark
# thin stone What about dom

dom has some odd choices in many of the builds i've seen but he has a lot of builds, so could be good for giving u an idea to work off of

#

and ya like others have said u can certainly use it

thin stone
#

Even in Havoc 20+?

quiet lark
#

even in 40 lol

thin stone
#

Ow

quiet lark
#

if u like smth then use it 🙂‍↕️

tame lodge
#

Are you a good player because of your skills

#

Or are you a good player because of your gear

heavy rover
thin stone
tame lodge
thin stone
steep flower
steep flower
steep flower
unreal nova
steep flower
#

Its our duty to preach

#

So that the flock may be wiser

hard lake
#

does the DB just not do a lot of damage against bosses?

#

im barely doing any damage

turbid ibex
#

Double barrel is horde deleter

hard lake
#

oh

#

so use Rashads Axe against bosses?

#

or what do i use

turbid ibex
hard lake
#

i see

tropic halo
#

Dude, the shovel feels much faster than i expected with the new buffs

#

and it does surprise feel so better too

tropic halo
hard lake
#

and use the axe for anything bigger

tropic halo
#

I dont really use it for trash hordes tbh

#

But my prefer use it to stagger with one shell if it doesnt kill them just for a quick breath before i finish in melee or a second shot

tropic halo
#

I dont play vet often but i used DB on arbites for a while but my melees often are taxe, knife, power sword, falchion and recently shovel

tame lodge
#

I can only think of 3 good weapons against monstrosities atm

#

Helbore chadgryn

#

Vraks Infantry Autogun

tidal fox
#

Revolver

tame lodge
#

Agripina Revolver

tidal fox
#

Skibidi revolver

tidal fox
#

Ngl why are you even using ranged against a boss if youre not a ranged class

tame lodge
#

💀

tropic halo
#

Embrace bolter CC mark

#

The only good bolter

tame lodge
tame lodge
unreal nova
# tame lodge

To be fair, is the only real issue with that mark unlike the bistol variant.

tame lodge
#

It goes chew to remind us that Warhammer is British

#

Chewsday innit

tropic halo
#

Only reason why CC bolter wins is more ammo efficient and hits and kills more than just one enemy from a single shot

tame lodge
#

When are we getting one of them bolt carbines with scopes and shit

#

🗣️

hard lake
#

On Rashads Axe, should i put this?@tame lodge
25% Damage (Unarmoured Enemies)
25% Damage (Carapace Armoured Enemies)

#

also jeez i did not know ranged weapons were this bad against bosses

#

i thought i was just too weak

tame lodge
#

Rashad vet usually goes Flak/Unarmored + Carapace
But they reduced the number of crushers so carapace kinda fell off

hard lake
#

ah

#

then what should i put on instead of carapace

#

or should i leave it

tame lodge
#

Rashad likes unarmored, flak, Unyielding and carapace

#

So you could keep it

hard lake
#

aight

tame lodge
#

But most weapons will be moving towards flak Unyielding

tropic halo
#

Nah just hit torsos for no apparent reason

tame lodge
#

True

tropic halo
tame lodge
#

Now that I'm thinking about it

#

I haven't seen a scab rager pack in a while

tropic halo
#

I often have the scab mix packs

turbid ibex
tropic halo
#

I kinda wish they spawn more frequently like the black rat packs from VT2

#

And their march sound louder

hard lake
#

wait so if i want to use my axe enemies that my DB cant deal with, shouldnt i got Flak and Carapace?

tropic halo
#

Flak/unyielding or flak/carapace

unreal nova
tropic halo
#

Your choice

hard lake
#

hm

#

flak unyielding seems best

#

aight thanks

tropic halo
#

I go Cara/unyielding for my Arbites taxe crit build and it is honestly fun

surreal rune
#

why are these expedition penances so bad

#

if they removed a single zero from both of them itd be less grindy

unreal nova
#

Because the salvage one will take over 300 runs to do.

surreal rune
#

at least vermintide didnt force me into some stupid bullshit for cosmetics

unreal nova
#

I keep saying it needs to be halved at least but Fatshark doesn't care.

hard lake
#

How am i suppoused to get penance elitist?

quiet lark
tame lodge
#

Zarona combat shotgun has better unyielding performance iirc

quiet lark
#

hm interesting

tame lodge
#

Atm I don't have a side by side comparison

#

Yea

quiet lark
#

i could giv it a try in a bit, i kno zarona has a weird interaction with unyielding but i assumed the better finesse and tighter spread of agri making it better suited for mmf makes it more of a likely build and i also just thought it'd be better for dmg

tame lodge
#

That is indeed the question

#

Will Zarona unyielding performance outshine agris damage for boss

#

Or is Agri just that goated

turbid ibex
#

But agri faster fire rate and reload prob make it better

quiet lark
#

on a quick test only hitting weakpoint with the same mmf build stacked to 15 and skirmisher, they had like the same dps

#

very scientific

tame lodge
#

Good enough

#

Both are good for boss dps

steep flower
tidal fox
#

No thanks im married to psword push attack

steep flower
tropic halo
#

unfortunately power creep can only exist

steep flower
hard lake
#

What usage does the Rashads Axe special attack have

#

combat axe special attack

turbid ibex
#

none really

hard lake
#

ah i see

hollow ibex
#

Looks cool while you slide

hard lake
#

oh youre onlline :D

silver patrol
tropic halo
silver patrol
#

but you should probably just spam m1

#

you tend to kill those 3 ragers in your face anyway

tropic halo
#

the special is a slow swing

hard lake
#

a bit confused how to use it against bosses and those fat chuds

#

Ogyns?

silver patrol
#

definitely not against bosses

hard lake
#

oh yeah i mean the heavy attack

silver patrol
#

and yeah heavy spam for single target

tropic halo
#

Or Heavy 1, light

#

If you want mixed swings

hard lake
#

not sure if my build is just doing really low damage

#

or if my teammates are that good

#

because i dont really kill bullwarks

#

or any big fellas

tropic halo
#

Maybe you should share your build and weapons

hard lake
#

im using the saboteur build from that pinned dude

#

Guide WIP

#

basically exactly that

#

but with Rashads axe

#

ignore the curious

#

i have just gotten them

silver patrol
#

i don't think saboteur is the best fit personally, as both are horde munchers

#

but they should all perform about the same in melee

hard lake
#

fuuuuck

#

i spent all of my money on that

silver patrol
#

the combat axe has the right blessings?

hard lake
#

yes

silver patrol
#

what difficulty

hard lake
#

difficulty 3

verbal burrow
#

Is that ancient build which revolved around setting enemies on fire with the full auto lasgun still viable?

hard lake
#

forgot the name

silver patrol
#

heresy

hard lake
#

ye

verbal burrow
#

You can just say difficulty 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5, we will understand

hard lake
#

thank you max

turbid ibex
# hard lake

ngl youre wasting a ton of resources by trying to optimize weapons this early

hard lake
#

you are my strongest soldier

verbal burrow
hard lake
#

i just didnt know what to do because i keep underperforming

silver patrol
#

imo it doesn't really excel in antisingle

hard lake
#

so combat blade then?

silver patrol
#

but if you hit the head it should two hit kill a bulwark at least

hard lake
#

ah

silver patrol
#

combat axe is great

verbal burrow
hard lake
#

i guess i could continue using this until i get a good combat blade?

silver patrol
#

try both and use what you like

hard lake
#

sure in a bit though

#

gotta go eat

hard lake
verbal burrow
#

Oh I gotta get some gameplay in quick and then back to politics on Conan Exiles actually

tame lodge
#

First

hard lake
#

maybe some other time then

#

thanks for the offer

tame lodge
#

Wow you're playing unmaxxed Rashad

verbal burrow
tame lodge
#

But like
The consensus is that you either play a perfectly rolled/maxxed Rashad

#

Or suffer

verbal burrow
#

@tame lodge , how would you do a recon las build in this day and age?

tame lodge
#

I don't recon
But would probably Focus Target

silver patrol
#

right, i suppose the rashad really needs to hit those breakpoints

verbal burrow
#

Rashad is great fun, just chopping heads off whilst listening to Butcher Pete

silver patrol
#

altough i dunno about that on heresy

hard lake
#

Any other melee recommendations?

silver patrol
#

the shovel exists

hard lake
#

Its good on single target damage?

silver patrol
#

no

hard lake
#

Its fun

silver patrol
#

yeah i'd say it feels pretty good

hard lake
#

But I think this build just needs single target damage really

#

DB and frags just clear hordes with ease

#

Its just big fellas that it struggles with

silver patrol
#

then duelling sword

#

or power sword

#

or yeah combat blade

tame lodge
#

Hell even Chainaxe 12

hollow ibex
#

actually

#

now that DS has been massively nerfed

#

maybe i'll try DS again

#

jk jk who am i kidding

tame lodge
#

It's pretty balanced nowadays

arctic ridge
#

Knife veterans getting tunnel vision'd with knife melee, a thing or no?

hybrid plover
pseudo fiber
#

DS kinda off meta pick

tall torrent
hard lake
#

what can i do with profane items that i dont need anymore?

tall torrent
hard lake
#

i see

tall torrent
#

since ur new u prob want weapon mastery XP

hard lake
#

also im trying out the combat blade rn

hybrid plover
hard lake
#

any tips?

#

i know that back stabs get a multiplier

#

but thats about it

#

oh and mobility

tame lodge
#

Always hit heads

hybrid plover
#

I'm basically relgating my ranged entirely to horde clear at that point which, I guess that was always the case but it's even more pronounced than ever

tall torrent
tame lodge
#

Both marks push attacks are pretty good dps wise
And also helps with horde clearing

hybrid plover
#

It's really hard to take that as a choice on the class you want your melee to be more generalist on

tall torrent
tame lodge
#

😭

hybrid plover
#

Mofo was vacuuming every single pick up because he couldn't stop needing to use the flamer for every horde possible

hollow ibex
#

hah bro thought he was a rumblergryn

hybrid plover
#

They ended up being the last alive and I saw their perspective dude it is BLEAK seeing someone try to do anything horde related with that thing at least in havoc now

#

I could see why he was resorting to flamer so often

#

It's why it feels like a psyker weapon again. You actually have ranged options that aren't resource hogs.

#

That can actually deal with hordes

tame lodge
#

Tbf

#

Flamer does get ammo prio

tall torrent
tame lodge
#

Nuh uh

#

It's a flamethrower in the 40k universe

#

It gets ammo prio

hybrid plover
#

I think ammo priority is dumb in the first place chadgryn

tame lodge
#

Watch mojo top 10 ammo prio list

#

Number 1
Helbore veteran

bleak tendon
#

How’s the infantry lasguns after the buffs?

pseudo fiber
tame lodge
#

Mid tier
The reduced recoil is pretty nice though

#

Still eh with flak (needs rending Strikes and whatnot)

#

Good maniacs

brazen mist
#

is relic of cadia skin ever gonna be available again?

#

its kinda fire

hard lake
#

Wtf

#

Did it dent

#

Oh wait I see

prisma spruce
#

shovel has good single, not as good as ps or ds ofc, but nothing rlly is

hard lake
#

Ps?

prisma spruce
#

power sword

hard lake
#

Oh

#

Im thinking of using the combat blade

prisma spruce
#

its my favorite weapon

hard lake
#

Can you give me some pointers

prisma spruce
#

Stab shit in the head, push attack very good, abuse great mobility, run serrated blade node

prisma spruce
#

Almost exclusively heavies, with proper setup itll one shot basically every special and 2-3 hit gunners and maulers

tall torrent
hard lake
hybrid plover
hard lake
#

Oh

#

I just keep seeing it being used in every single guide

#

So I was quite confused why its not in his build

hybrid plover
#

Most likely because those guides haven't accounted for the uncanny rework

#

Which was arguably a flat out nerf.

#

And a big one too.

hard lake
#

3 to 1 month old vids yea

hybrid plover
#

Yeah uncanny just isn't as "must take" as it used to be.

#

Especially since crusher spawns have been cut down a lot

brazen mist
hollow ibex
hard lake
#

oh

tall torrent
# brazen mist wut

good news: it might rotate back into shop at some point

bad news 1: we don't know when it's gonna rotate back
bad news 2: the upper body armor has texture popping glitches with certain weapon animations in 1st person (reported many months ago, not fixed & unlikely to be)

tall torrent
tall torrent
hard lake
#

i see

unreal cliff
#

krak grenade or shredder frag grenade?

tame lodge
#

Shrek grenades

unreal cliff
#

?

unreal cliff
#

green

tame lodge
#

Just go shredder

#

There isn't a lot of important enemies for Krak anyways

#

Ignore the bulwarks, maulers and monstrosities

#

Those don't matter

hollow ibex
#

no fuck the bulwarks

unreal cliff
#

i mean...if you insist

unreal cliff
strange phoenix
#

I like Krak personally

narrow frost
#

I use smoke

strange phoenix
#

But I also use recon las so grenades are the designated elite-killer

copper vector
#

where can i see the vet guns' cleave values?

tall torrent
prime wyvern
#

I cant find it 😔

copper vector
#

ty

stuck gorge
prime wyvern
#

damn, the economy

stuck gorge
#

too many veterans bound their ping to m1 that we cant afford red circles anymore

tall torrent
#

I reworked some intro sections

#

And some more ranged weapon sections

prime wyvern
tall torrent
#

This afternoon

prime wyvern
#

in this game trying to use a fast weapon would explode my ears

#

theres no ping cooldown ;.;

#

its also just more useful in v2, pinging a hookrat through a horde

stuck gorge
#

evil hookrat that immediately leads to your death in 0.2 seconds after being hooked

prime wyvern
#

yea theres not as much "fuck you blow up the entire screen" in v2

#

so hookrats are a much higher threat than their trapper equivalent

tall torrent
stuck gorge
#

side note on a hookrat ive had it drag me into a secret room for chalices on one of the maps and my teammates just looked around in confusion on how to get me

prime wyvern
#

lol I dont blame them

#

I have 1200hrs in that game and idk how to even get in those rooms

#

isnt that blood in the darkness

#

or enchanters lair

stuck gorge
#

idk remember names well

prime wyvern
#

oh if its chalices it has to be enchanters lair

open jolt
#

gang nobody told me the hellbore was so sauced

hollow ibex
#

you clearly have not been in this chat for very long KEKW_ogryn

mystic pumice
#

😆

next ridge
#

Any of you gurus have a good easy spot / way to farm 65 kills from firing down range penance . After 104 matches i have 35/100

tall torrent
next ridge
#

You would think its simple but not for me

tall torrent
#

Ideally with guns that do well at long range

next ridge
tall torrent
next ridge
next ridge
heavy rover
open jolt
#

like gang one shotting any target with that satisfying shot sound dude omg

slow sky
#

which is crazy

open jolt
#

i mean i get powercreeping in high level (haven't tried havoc yet) but i like to see people make the weirdest or weakest builds work

slow sky
#

its one of the few things that maintains its peaks in high havocs

hollow ibex
#

because they lack the requisite skill to make the gun work

glad pelican
#

best combat shotgun mark?

hollow ibex
#

agri

mental turret
#

For the shout should I get the toughness regen for allies or the revive?

#

Or is it ok if I get both

turbid ibex
quiet lark
#

unless ure turbo cool revive shouter 😎

clever flicker
quiet lark
clever flicker
clever flicker
clever flicker
tall torrent
#

can't say the same for e

clever flicker
#

Ah okay. I've only watched like one video from him, which was about the plasma gun charge shot change, but other than that I have no knowledge on how reliable his videos are

tall torrent
#

he is neither good at the game nor knowledgeable about the game

#

but people like to assume both things lol

clever flicker
#

Ah, so like an unfunny version of zanny

tall torrent
#

unfunny & niche

#

cuz dt is not that popular of a game

#

I can almost guarantee u that u will learn more about getting better in DT reading 5 mins in my guide than watching 50 of his vids

clever flicker
#

What about Jeficus? I've relied on a lot of his videos coming back into the game. I heard hes pretty well known on gamelantern

tall torrent
#

maybe a little better

clever flicker
#

Damn really?

tall torrent
#

yea

#

well jeficus doesn't milk that many vids I think

#

so even if he was as bad or worse, he's not spamming it

hollow ibex
#

most DT youtubers are dogshit

#

in terms of actual game knowledge

clever flicker
#

How hard is the game knowledge of DT exactly?

tall torrent
#

it will probably give u an idea

hollow ibex
#

literally a 100 page guide and it's not comprehensive 😭

tall torrent
#

unrelated but this is pre vs post patch 1.11.6 (soulblaze & chem toxin dmg changed), not accounting for ADM changes

#

also made this, replacing tables

clever flicker
tall torrent
#

it is a fatshark game after all

clever flicker
#

But how intrinsically "relevant" are majority of the stats to someone's gameplay? Like if i only understand the basics (toughness, spillover, stamina management, etc.) but dont know or memorize the more complicated stuff, will i still do fine in auric and havoc missions or will I get dogwalked by the game?

tall torrent
#

I could add crit mod and weakspot boost and crit boost to attacks if I wanted to suffer, but I chose not to

clever flicker
#

Fuck

tall torrent
# clever flicker Fuck

for example in the "stagger, mass & cleave" section, there's this part at the end where it is VERY relevant to ur gameplay

#

and then u can look at ur weapons' attacks in their sections and find out if u can build them to have "enough" cleave

dry cloak
#

In other words cleave is you budget mass is the price

clever flicker
#

How much of this info is actually accessible in-game? Because ive noticed that some weapon stats are absent like the chainswords saw damage and the base crit chance of a given gun

clever flicker
#

😐

tall torrent
#

for example they don't tell u attacks' cleave at all

clever flicker
#

😑

tall torrent
#

and the in game stagger tables are effectively useless (inaccurate)

#

they also don't tell u how stagger actually works

#

whereas I actually show u what ur weapon is capable of staggering

#

so that u know that bringing ur dinky ass power falchion to fight 6 ragers at once is a really really really really bad idea

#

but bringing a relic blade to fight 6 ragers at once will make u feel very good and potentially want to jerk off

clever flicker
#

Why the fuck would they half ass the information available???

tall torrent
dry cloak
#

Fatshark special

clever flicker
#

Genuinely infuriating, honestly

clever flicker
#

But I suspected that when I realized that even at auric level meat grinder they dont add in monstrosities to test your weapons against

#

Also, why?

slow sky
#

they werent in there initially and the thing has been updated a total of 2 times since launch

clever flicker
#

Like it CANNOT be hard to add a beast of nurgle next to the fucking Reaper

tall torrent
slow sky
#

adding only standard enemies in

#

about 2 patches after they were added into the game

clever flicker
hollow ibex
#

yeah modding is mandatory if you want to actually test the game

clever flicker
#

And Fat Shart is just... fine with that?

tall torrent
#

for example scoreboards in game

clever flicker
#

Are there any mods that they do ban you for?

#

(besides the obvious ones)

tall torrent
clever flicker
#

Ah okay. Thank you for all the info and tips!

hollow ibex
#

yeah nexus is fine

#

they've allowed some pretty sus cheaty mods on there lol

hybrid plover
#

i love this game

#

but it's so infuriating sometimes

quiet lark
#

jeficus probably has more wrong opinions but i don't think he presents himself as this h40 clearing expert that can tell u what the meta is and all the problems with the current game (he doesn't rlly play the game and is crazy good at sm2 from my understanding)

quiet lark
#

ggs

hybrid plover
#

8 times

#

EIGHT

frank basin
#

of what

hybrid plover
#

Of me error coding through a game

frank basin
#

you modding?

hybrid plover
#

Along with these solid second long stutters

#

Yes.

frank basin
#

yeah i felt ya

#

i mod l4d2 stuff

hybrid plover
#

But it only happened this game.

frank basin
#

and the blender and coding file is pissing me off to fix animation bulshit

hybrid plover
#

So I really don't know what could possibly be causing that if its anything on my end.

quiet lark
frank basin
#

my game just laggist with back downgrading computer

#

fsr just did so little

craggy pulsar
#

hello real veterans, today i used the "shout" ability and it went on cooldown for negative six hundred and sixty seconds.
how can I prevent my veteran from doing this again, as it was very inconvenient.
thank you.

frank basin
#

with least performative than last time i played

quiet lark
frank basin
#

that sound like numeric us bug to me

craggy pulsar
#

thank you and thank you for your service 🫡

tame void
#

So revive shout is better now since no downsides, but isnt it still kinda bad? Like if you shout you have room to revive anyway

hybrid plover
#

It really doesn't mean much in anything below because at some point if you're handling the situation well enough, a good shout can change the pace enough to give time for a revive

#

In havoc, it's not the same thing at all KEKW_ogryn

#

Even if you shout, there could be a blanket of enemies coming behind what you just staggered and you can get submerged in the horde anyway

#

Revive Shout is extremely good for those scenarios.

#

Or you're getting laid into by like

#

55 gunners

split estuary
#

Does anyone have a Vet build for havoc i could copy

hollow ibex
#

pinned guide has builds

split estuary
#

thank u

frank basin
#

am gonna drop some spanish pop for on nuncio aquilia

meager plover
#

hey, i suck at building and not really a veteran player. any buid to do the killshot penance ? * Killshot Ready - Penance
Kill 2500 enemies while at 10 stacks of Marksman's focus or more.*

frank basin
#

or a shotgun

quiet lark
frank basin
#

headshotting far away unless you're skillfully land the shot at distance, otherwise, use high capacity good accurate gun and shoot at medium/short distance on headshotting

#

I suggest you not chase penance too often it would burn you out easily, driven insanity like i met a guy willing pay someone do 5 match maelstrom/auric to get the title

meager plover
frank basin
#

if you crackshot kill a lot steal kill, you make progress faster

meager plover
#

i'll try

frank basin
#

either you want milkfish said vrak mag dump

or a shotgun much simplier headshotting

#

agrip is tighter spread so it make sense

somber axle
#

OH

#

Yeah the build from that message should still be fine and fun for finishing Killshot Ready

#

Just shoot heads to 10+ stacks and then load your special shot on the Zarona Shotgun

#

aim at a horde

#

delete

#

rinse and repeat to penance completion

#

better than crabwalking with a Power Sword imo

#

I did it in like 2 days of running a few matches and it was on work nights

#

if you just load up and shoot hordes all day the penance goes by fast

quiet lark
# meager plover i'll try

I'd just put on the 15 stack node so you can still get kills that count towards it even if one stack because

frank basin
#

try use tac reload it help to reload faster before you shot to empty rounds

#

more dakka per minute

toxic reef
somber axle
#

the duration really isn't an issue anymore

#

it was funny seeing people crabwalking though

#

LMFAO

toxic reef
#

ye now you can just get enough stacks and start killing with melee

meager plover
#

ok, i'm to bad at this game to get enough stacks 😄

livid vale
#

MILITARUM DRILLS

#

NOTHING LIKE IT.

meager plover
#

i'm not even sure i do it right

frank basin
quiet lark
meager plover
#

yeah i was playing with people that were munching hordes. i'm ok now 😄

verbal burrow
#

After all those years, that look is still peak

#

I was worried it'd underperform but it's been handling very smoothly

#

What's the longest zoom range of any weapon anyway?

frank basin
#

without mod?

livid vale
#

I think the best you can get (from vanilla game) is Kantrel Lasgun with Executioner's Stance activated

frank basin
#

what he use VoC?

mental turret
#

How do you complete the penance that requires you to blow up enemies with a frag while it's still in the air?

#

I find the fuse time to be way too long

#

Is there a way I can cook it or do I just need to throw it straight up

shrewd topaz
#

just do expedition and hit someone with mortar shell

mental turret
#

Direct hit?

shrewd topaz
#

yes

mental turret
#

Aight ty

quiet lark
#

got that one by complete accident honestly

mental turret
#

You just throwing it in the sky for fun

quiet lark
#

probably some far away enemies and there was a nade pickup or smth

mental turret
somber axle
#

Idk if this stacks with the zoom from Executioner's Stance but if it does then you get the highest zoom possible

#

Be careful because the zooming can make you tunnel vision hardcore

#

A lot of the time I see people talk about modding out the zoom

grand perch
#

You say tunnel vision, I say target focussed chadgryn

somber axle
#

the only awkward part is that there's no like

#

scope or anything

#

it's just regular iron sights

#

your Vet is just putting their face REALLY CLOSE I guess

tawny badger
#

"Hold that pose"

grand perch
tawny badger
#

with a shotgun too lord have mercy

#

WHERE IS THE STOCK

#

AUGHHHH

mental turret
#

I didn't realise how cursed that was until the rager pointed it out

open ravine
# grand perch

Wouldn't holding the shotgun there just fuck your face.
Genuinely asking as guns aren't that popular here so I don't know this shit off hand.

tawny badger
#

Yes

steep flower
prime wyvern
#

and he tucks his face into the stock to line the sight. rn his face is going to absorb the recoil instead of his shoulder ;.;

open ravine
#

Thought so

near abyss
#

Can anyone recommend an up-to-date recon lasgun build?

quaint marsh
#

It's not really common to have aperture sights on a shotty either

near abyss
#

Why is Infernus now the go-to blessing on Recons instead of Headhunter like in the past?

turbid ibex
#

recon has shit finesse

#

without infernus the only benefit crits do is a slight damage increase and shocktrooper procs

near abyss
#

In the past, procing shocktrooper was the whole point. More crits = less ammo spent

#

🤔

turbid ibex
#

you can still crit without headhunter

#

and with infernus gets both that and applies burn

#

so overall more damage

analog mural
#

Recon has tons of ammo to begin with as well

heavy rover
#

If you're really worried about ammo economy i suggest helbore at that rate