#veteran-class
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The hardest part of the event is making sure your teammates actually pick up the fucking skulls.
Updated the section for explaining damage-related bonuses, should be a lot more intuitive now
I just do it myself if they don't. Ezy.
in the basic mechanics? very cool
whats bolter rifle dump stat?
Collateral
has a weapon like the heavy sword become more usable now that Carpace armor isnt so abundant?
was good before, is better now
scum can be p tanky with health and DR boosts active
well it was directly buffed before the crusher/carapace changes
it was always useable
Oh no, that one has as glass of a build as they can get lul. I was playing with friends.
ah ok
Can it handle Ragers and Maulers
that seems most of the big dangerous waves now
Ive seen like rager waves with 10 to 15 of them at once. wild lol
oops all ragers
they should introduce a difficulty where all normal infested become ragers
yeah the last event
it was pretty meh
nah it was great
i liked some of the end events
but the actual map runs were snoozy
maybe 700-800 enemies a match
hab dreyko was a very good time at the tree
mercantile was so much fun
I forgor
ok maybe this time increase the amount of enemies by 200%
but ye they did state there's less enemies overall
yeah
rework havoc so that there's only ragers instead of regular infested with 10x spawn rate and you balanced havoc gg
it's always a pleasure to see the duelling sword veteran get destroyed in a single second by 8 ragers
Is there some bad etiquette rules of darktide somewhere?
nothing that isn't common sense
is bolter rifle good
Obviously ledging someone with a barrel intentionally is bad form (unless it’s a smyker?
)
But common sense ain’t so common
and plasma gun?
one of the best in hte game lol
I don't think there is.
Don't flame other people using the scoreboard mod's stats I guess
What would you all say the dump stat for infantry lasgun should be?
mobility
Thank you for your service, the answer I expected but just wanted to make sure

personally i like it and think it's pretty good but it's up to personal taste
on vet the slow draw speed is a big downside and it is very ammo hungry
Got an opinion for combat knife
You're never gonna guess
LETS GO
General advice
usually mobility
there are a few exceptions
cleave targets on Power sword
damage on flamer
idk the psyker ones
don't waste resources don't quit on down don't be mean ig
yes but it can feel clunky given the slow draw and reload speed
p much warp resist for everything, void strike can do blast radius iirc
If someone is low on ammo (red/orange) and you're fine (white ammo) don't ammo hog. Good etiquette is pinging ammo for others to use too
Don't shoot poxbursters near allies and do not shoot them when an ally is moving closer to shove either
Don't shoot barrels near allies
Don't use medicae if an ally has bar(s) of corruption and need it more unless there are extra charges for you too
Don't wake Daemonhosts unless you are prepared to engage them and feel confident 1v1ing, always expect that other players may be preoccupied with fights (fighting elites/specials) and may not be able to hard commit to killing the Daemonhost fight
That's all I can think of
dont ping spam when you're downed
if you see a zealot with several health segments dont med stim them without asking first since martyrdom exists
What about shooting targets in melee range of another?
dont put ping target on lmb
as long as its not a burster you're free to shoot anything
i do it when the team is clearly totally oblivious
That's fine?
Just not poxbursters
If you pop a poxburster and someone goes boom you know you did wrong
you shouldnt be shooting bursters in the first place
tbf with the amt of bugged busters rn i tend to just shoot / throwing knife them if it's convenient for me and the team
If they're really far and doing a risky conga line I'll shoot them as long as no one is at risk
But I use Lasguns so ammo isn't a concern for me
yeah that's the wrong way to do it
you only shoot bursters when the psyker is nearby
is Uncanny still good/wanted on sapper mk1 shovel? or nah i havent played since the uncanny and armor changes
Ye
I wonder if skitarii is just gonna be veteran with gimmicks
like arc effects and pet servitor
but essentially a ranged gunner
I tried psyker and hivescum but I like veteran best
psyker I need to get inferno staff still though
For which weapons is the talent Opening Salvo designed for? 10% crit for the first 20% of ammo. Other than maybe the double barrel shotgun I'm not sure if I understand the use case.
Great question. it’s just not a good talent lol
Every class is just veteran with gimmicks
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There’s a reason veteran is code name “default”
Load bearing veteran

I see a poxburster a healthy distance away from the group and I go to try and shoot it
Now why are my teammates doing all this to shove it
No but real answer
They are intended to "fit in any composition"
So let's see if they have are veteran tier
Or the "doing their own thing" tier
Which is like ogryn and Arbites tier
Zealot has a tier called zealot
It's pretty self explanatory
Then psyker tier which has psyker and scum
Skitarii is just Kerillian in an admech suit, heal-stealing and all
Screencap this
(Which in turn is branch of vet even if VT came out first)
Why do so many veteran stealth builds use the combat blade
Deadly commandos
I dont follow
Knife has high mobility and high damage
Ah
So you end up wanting to move fast for maximum stealth
high move speed, high single target dmg
u can ofc use smth else
the sample builds in my guide are just meant to be samples
I was just surprised by that choice initially
I havent experimented with many of the melee weapons yet
dueling sword feels pretty mid
it kinda is now
Thematics I guess
Or theyre scared of melee so they pick both the ability and weapon that lets them run away from it
it's just thematic
The knife gets an inherent 1.25x backstab multiplier but thats not really well known but that is an actual reason but I dont think people are leaning into that if they even know it exists at all
and infil marksman gives really high dmg in burst
also works with frag spam pretty well
Better than 90% of players already if you recognize theyre strong lol
They just turn entire groups into a fine mist
Im just very hesitant to use them because of friendly fire concerns
no friendly fire in DT
go nuts
Which there arent any
Oh fr?
yup
Absolutely none
Whats the green damage marker then
It was planned at some point but scrapped
So theres code for it and damage profiles n stuff
it just indicates your shot hit a teammate
also it used to reduce your cleave but htat's gone now
But none are enabled
Ah
But it is funny because in some instances you can trigger on hit buff effects from hitting teammates because some lingering parts are there
Also i am a bit confused how I'm suppoused to use stealth with the DB
Is it mainly to close distance and get out of sticky situations?
Ah
both are super strong benefits in this game
Should also make weakspots easier to hit
Considering you have 8 seconds to properly aim
a common strat is
stealth, underhand throw frags at groups of elites, break stealth with melee/ranged attack and go on a tear
Tear?
Might be overstepping on exe stances whole shtick
Is he going to be okay?
Oh?
Just a "shooting mode" ability
Highlighting enemies n stuff to make them easier to target
Ah
Thankfully no
I don't really understand why he got launched lol
Isnt it a good thing for him to shock the enemies like that
You'd think so but no!
Spending the entire game with someone hovering around you doing nothing but exclusively removing the gameplay from the game tends to not be viewed positively
It also kinda throws people off when their opponents uh
Are stopped dead in their tracks like that
Like it’s nice for a bit but then you’re forcing your teammates to have to go and walk up to each enemy and beat them to death
Instead of having the enemies come to them for easy grouping n’ whatnot
That specific clip was ainz running dclaw, which has a parry requiring enemies to attack him to trigger
Only for every enemy to be unable to do that
Which is why he turns around and solves that issue
dodge, parry, or perfect block talents also require enemies to proc them
And then smite deals virtually no fucking damage so despite it being extremely solid CC you’re also not Doing Any Damage
which requires an attack, which isnt possible with smite
Its toxic but also like
Idk some people want to have fun
so some of the dps is lower on the enemies
smite CCs both the enemies and the person using it
Its why a lot of people just hate a lot of the "meta" stuff
Purg, rumbler, chorus, smite, etc
worlds first horde shooter where the playerbase is like
"I FUCKING HATE CC"
Because all just shut down the game and some also kill everything at the same time
The issue is that these render the gameplay of the game nonexistent for everyone else on the team
BtL
"BACK AWAY!"
"MOVE 🗣️ 🔥 🔥 ‼️ "
KNEEL
"SCATTER!" from the fatalist is another fav
Mod that replaces all BtL voice lines with the horn of a 16-wheeler
smite isn't good cc tho because most smykers spam it so enemies aren't grouped tgt, making it take longer to acc kill everything
yeah I said that a bit earlier
Where is your guide?
First pin in this channel
Thank you!
Im using an agrip exe stance build and i dont know if i should use the power sword or the devils claw. I need something mostly for horde clear but can still deal with carapace
Any thoughts?
Power sword
Damn, does the devils claw sword suck that much or is the power sword just that good?
The power sword with more power swings per use is amazing
Both
Tragic. The devils claw sword looks so cool too. I figured the reposte attack would have been sufficient for crushers/maulers, no?
Kind of but power sword is really just better lol
Okay, thank you!
I suggest u check guide first
Normally I just put a slug in their fucking chromed out temple, but when there's like 5 of them in a cramped hallway and an Entourage of ragers around them im kinda cooked
I've been using it, thank you! Its been very helpful!
What's more important for the boltgun, the bleed or brittle blessing?
And how useful is the bolt pistol explode on close range hit blessing
Depends on which variant & what ur using it for
Lethal proximity is basically the only reason boltpistol is remotely relevant
dclaw is better on other classes ime but it is serviceable. power sword is just easily one of the best melee weapons in the game as a whole
I found a boltgun that is 290 power with 80 potential in everything except mobility at 60, if I empower it to 500 is it guaranteed that all of the stats reach their max potential?
yes
Should I?
Its 280 power blue rarity, it costs 80 plasteel and 20 diamantine to go to 290
What does collateral do, and how much does mobility affect sprint?
Initial doesnt matter
You just brain off max it if it's right stat roll
stagger, but it doesn't affect any stagger breakpoints on vet
mobility also doesn't do much but it technically helps
What would be the best dump stat for an assault chainsword?
Mobility
Check pinned guide
Is this class one of the least played in lobbies? Or is it popular?
Veteran is fairly popular tho most players don’t know how to play him right/well
And which class would be rarest?
Does that even matter
maybe ogryn but you should see plenty of each of them
none of them are particularly rare
Lol I have a bolt pistol with 61 collateral and 79 mobility, I might upgrade it tomorrow
Likely ogryn
Big man has seen worse days
Nah you gotta wait for the
“What’s the best build in the game”
Comment
Thems the best ones

best build is squad leader, i mean its the most upvoted on GL
the people have spoken
What's the best build in the game
Squad Leader
it's actually crackhead john wick
It's the most upvoted GL build so it has to be true.
I'll take a look
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/veteran-squad-leader truly one of the best builds Of All Time
frags blitz
tinkerer over grenadier
But why?
I don't know but it's the most upvoted GL build so therefore it is the best. 
That's not even the glaring issue
It's not terrible for the most part until you realize there's no Demo Team.
On a build.
With frags.
frags but using tinkerer instead of grenadier
longshot plasma gun (i'd just use one motion tbh)
using born leader over demo team
These are the issues I see
Which immediately makes the build so much worse than it has to be
Also I personally think the Power Falchion underperforms and the Power Sword is just better but I wouldn't judge a build to be immediately worse because of weapon choice
Talentless
Grey weapons, unpowered
No curios
Sedition meta
Banished to Sedition difficulty
Those poor lost souls
I used to be a hardline Veteran main. Then I played Scum and now I main them and haven't looked back
I should come back to my Vet to use the Plasma Gun
u'd be right
Cadian skin where
This one's better
Depending on the build your going for will determine which mark is the best for you to use
what about stats though
Perfect stat spread
the slow firing is not godroll?
Gud
Are u playing havoc?
Ok do urself a favor and don’t think about it
It depends on what talents and weapon blessings your using
If you have a high crit build and are using infernus with dum dum then use the torrent one
The first one sacrifices some mobility to gain some collateral which isnt worth it on the recon
I think I got crit build
is the torrent better than mkVIc which is middle ground between fast and slow firing?
also Im trying hybrid with Plasma gun and power sword and its real good
whats plasma gun dump stat?
The middle mark is the best of both worlds. Is the tryhard mark for a reason.
1+2.
Maybe you didn't use a tier 4 one?
a what?
ive power cycler t1 I think and then one from mastery
You need to add it to your weapon.
I have a +1 swing blessing on it
Cleave targets.
The torrent offers the highest outright dps especially if you are constantly procing crits so the infernus blessings gets to stack up quickly. If you pair it with the shock trooper talent as well, your ammo stretches much further too. But if you arent using DoT effects and arent hitting an insane amount of crits the VIc may be the better choice as its more balanced and versatile. Really its gonna depend on what you are trying to do with your build
Imo stopping power, because even at /60 it still has absurdly good stagger
You need at least T3 power cycle to get the 3rd chain hit
You can just change mark freely yk
Gotta find guns
Gonna take a while
Spent 100k tryna find good mk6 power sword and didnt find any
just find any good power sword and change its mark to the correct one
You can?
dont need to get specifically the mk6 from gamble since you can just change it
Tf
I just said that 😭
After a certain mastery level you can swap the mark for any weapon at any time you want
Cool
68% Thermal Resistance and 72% Charge Rate is ideal if it can fire 8 consecutive hipfire shots. The decimals are hidden so not every Plasma Gun with those stats will be able to do that, so 69% Thermal Resistance and 71% Charge Rate is practically perfect too.
60% Thermal Resistance is also fine
60% thermal can actually be more desirable in some cases
Doesn't hurt to have multiple plasma guns with different stats in your collection
why do teammates straight up ignore downed teammates so often?
i know that randoms not being the best teammates is normal in every game
but i never really noticed it being so common compared to this game
it depends on how you die but atleast 30% of the time you're gonna be unrevivable in aurics or havocs
oh im playing on Malice
i only have early game stuff
well malice isn't too dangerous so idk why, it could be you're with other newer players playing on those difficulties and they don't know that you count as blocking while reviving someone
Or its people speedrunning
letting people die so they don't have to be there for the buddy door
wait it's meta..
Is the infantry lasgun good now?
I see your name, I understand
Which Darktide youtuber is good?
For veteran builds
Idk
I think they recommended power falchion in one of their builds though so i wouldnt trust him
I think Dom also recommended a build without Precision Strikes
That's a strike
So Dom out
I mainly wanted a cadian trooper build
Using ilas + some decent/good melee
But buff ilas said that ilas is not good rn
Its usable
It's there™
More than falchion at least lol
dom has some odd choices in many of the builds i've seen but he has a lot of builds, so could be good for giving u an idea to work off of
and ya like others have said u can certainly use it
Even in Havoc 20+?
even in 40 lol
Ow
if u like smth then use it 🙂↕️
Are you a good player because of your skills
Or are you a good player because of your gear
If you want something that feels like ilas you can try the mk V helbore. throw in the weight of fire blessing you'll be shooting faster than ilas
I did

Those are incomparable; gear/build does not equal skill in equal measure
One can find out when seen playing
We already know skill matters way more.
We do
Many don’t
Its our duty to preach
So that the flock may be wiser

Double barrel is horde deleter
Yes
i see
Dude, the shovel feels much faster than i expected with the new buffs
and it does surprise feel so better too
I like to use it as stagger stick and specialist close range killer
so mainly use it against crowd clear and smaller specialists?
and use the axe for anything bigger
Any specialist or elite at close quarters
I dont really use it for trash hordes tbh
But my prefer use it to stagger with one shell if it doesnt kill them just for a quick breath before i finish in melee or a second shot
what melee do you use?
I dont play vet often but i used DB on arbites for a while but my melees often are taxe, knife, power sword, falchion and recently shovel
99% of the ranged Weapons have their boss dps neutered
I can only think of 3 good weapons against monstrosities atm
Helbore 
Vraks Infantry Autogun
Revolver
Agripina Revolver
Skibidi revolver
No bolter?
Ngl why are you even using ranged against a boss if youre not a ranged class
That too I guess
I have been using it as a dmr for so long I end up forgetting it has full auto
💀
To be fair, is the only real issue with that mark unlike the bistol variant.
Only reason why CC bolter wins is more ammo efficient and hits and kills more than just one enemy from a single shot

Speaking of
When are we getting one of them bolt carbines with scopes and shit
🗣️
On Rashads Axe, should i put this?@tame lodge
25% Damage (Unarmoured Enemies)
25% Damage (Carapace Armoured Enemies)
also jeez i did not know ranged weapons were this bad against bosses
i thought i was just too weak
Rashad vet usually goes Flak/Unarmored + Carapace
But they reduced the number of crushers so carapace kinda fell off
aight
But most weapons will be moving towards flak Unyielding
The scab rager pack 
Head is flak
Nah just hit torsos for no apparent reason
True

I often have the scab mix packs
I have
I kinda wish they spawn more frequently like the black rat packs from VT2
And their march sound louder
wait so if i want to use my axe enemies that my DB cant deal with, shouldnt i got Flak and Carapace?
Flak/unyielding or flak/carapace
Rashad kill time isn't that fast on crushers unless you crit anyway.
Your choice
I go Cara/unyielding for my Arbites taxe crit build and it is honestly fun
why are these expedition penances so bad
if they removed a single zero from both of them itd be less grindy
Because to force ppl into playing so they can say expeditions is a success.
Because the salvage one will take over 300 runs to do.
at least vermintide didnt force me into some stupid bullshit for cosmetics
I keep saying it needs to be halved at least but Fatshark doesn't care.
How am i suppoused to get penance elitist?
agri cs is good no?
Zarona combat shotgun has better unyielding performance iirc
hm interesting
i could giv it a try in a bit, i kno zarona has a weird interaction with unyielding but i assumed the better finesse and tighter spread of agri making it better suited for mmf makes it more of a likely build and i also just thought it'd be better for dmg
That is indeed the question
Will Zarona unyielding performance outshine agris damage for boss
Or is Agri just that goated
On a pure damage per shot basis yes
But agri faster fire rate and reload prob make it better
on a quick test only hitting weakpoint with the same mmf build stacked to 15 and skirmisher, they had like the same dps
very scientific
Try mk8 exterminator shotty on arby with full bore + 50% weakspot dmg blessing and 25% unyielding perk & you’ll see

No thanks im married to psword push attack
They both work for different situations
Can’t compare tbh
unfortunately power creep can only exist
Dog special tho…
none really
ah i see
Looks cool while you slide
oh youre onlline :D
i think stagger?
stagger
but you should probably just spam m1
you tend to kill those 3 ragers in your face anyway
the special is a slow swing
definitely not against bosses
Heavy spam
oh yeah i mean the heavy attack
and yeah heavy spam for single target
not sure if my build is just doing really low damage
or if my teammates are that good
because i dont really kill bullwarks
or any big fellas
Maybe you should share your build and weapons
im using the saboteur build from that pinned dude
Guide WIP
basically exactly that
but with Rashads axe
ignore the curious
i have just gotten them
i don't think saboteur is the best fit personally, as both are horde munchers
but they should all perform about the same in melee
the combat axe has the right blessings?
what difficulty
difficulty 3
Is that ancient build which revolved around setting enemies on fire with the full auto lasgun still viable?
forgot the name
heresy
ye
You can just say difficulty 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5, we will understand
thank you max
ngl youre wasting a ton of resources by trying to optimize weapons this early
you are my strongest soldier
true
viable, but mid at best
Only if I select my strongest builds instead of meming
i just didnt know what to do because i keep underperforming
imo it doesn't really excel in antisingle
so combat blade then?
but if you hit the head it should two hit kill a bulwark at least
ah
combat axe is great
This game is an enjoyment sim for masochists. Don't worry about performance. Suffer with us on the highest difficulties. Wanna play together?
i guess i could continue using this until i get a good combat blade?
try both and use what you like
need a higher power blade first
Oh I gotta get some gameplay in quick and then back to politics on Conan Exiles actually
First
Hmm
But like
The consensus is that you either play a perfectly rolled/maxxed Rashad
Or suffer
@tame lodge , how would you do a recon las build in this day and age?
I don't recon
But would probably Focus Target
right, i suppose the rashad really needs to hit those breakpoints
Rashad is great fun, just chopping heads off whilst listening to Butcher Pete
altough i dunno about that on heresy
Any other melee recommendations?
the shovel exists
Its good on single target damage?
no
Its fun
yeah i'd say it feels pretty good
But I think this build just needs single target damage really
DB and frags just clear hordes with ease
Its just big fellas that it struggles with
Hell even Chainaxe 12
actually
now that DS has been massively nerfed
maybe i'll try DS again
jk jk who am i kidding
Knife veterans getting tunnel vision'd with knife melee, a thing or no?
It genuinely feels like it's meant only for psyker now if I'll be honest
DS kinda off meta pick
It’s ok on zealot but zealot has more flexible melee
what can i do with profane items that i dont need anymore?
consecrate to green, then sacrifice that to the corresponding weapons
i see
since ur new u prob want weapon mastery XP
also im trying out the combat blade rn
Why would you use DS when knife is right there
any tips?
i know that back stabs get a multiplier
but thats about it
oh and mobility
Always hit heads
I'm basically relgating my ranged entirely to horde clear at that point which, I guess that was always the case but it's even more pronounced than ever
because DS is cheaper to run and with higher single target atks at base
Both marks push attacks are pretty good dps wise
And also helps with horde clearing
But its pretty much the only thing it can do now. When it had some means of horde clearing, I could justify the choice even if I don't like it myself but
It's really hard to take that as a choice on the class you want your melee to be more generalist on
I think it's alr for chorus flamer
😭
Tell that to the chorus zealot yesterday who left all of us without ammo 🥲
Mofo was vacuuming every single pick up because he couldn't stop needing to use the flamer for every horde possible
hah bro thought he was a rumblergryn
They ended up being the last alive and I saw their perspective dude it is BLEAK seeing someone try to do anything horde related with that thing at least in havoc now
I could see why he was resorting to flamer so often
It's why it feels like a psyker weapon again. You actually have ranged options that aren't resource hogs.
That can actually deal with hordes
no lol
I think ammo priority is dumb in the first place 
How’s the infantry lasguns after the buffs?
number 2
purge staff psyker
Mid tier
The reduced recoil is pretty nice though
Still eh with flak (needs rending Strikes and whatnot)
Good maniacs
shovel has good single, not as good as ps or ds ofc, but nothing rlly is
Ps?
power sword
its my favorite weapon
Stab shit in the head, push attack very good, abuse great mobility, run serrated blade node
Heavy or light attack?
Almost exclusively heavies, with proper setup itll one shot basically every special and 2-3 hit gunners and maulers
I have 1 good news and 2 bad news
Gotcha
Btw why dont you use uncanny strike on the saboteur build?
The days of uncanny meta have passed
Oh
I just keep seeing it being used in every single guide
So I was quite confused why its not in his build
Most likely because those guides haven't accounted for the uncanny rework
Which was arguably a flat out nerf.
And a big one too.
3 to 1 month old vids yea
Yeah uncanny just isn't as "must take" as it used to be.
Especially since crusher spawns have been cut down a lot
wut
the nerf only happened like a week ago so a lot of shit is out of date now
oh
good news: it might rotate back into shop at some point
bad news 1: we don't know when it's gonna rotate back
bad news 2: the upper body armor has texture popping glitches with certain weapon animations in 1st person (reported many months ago, not fixed & unlikely to be)
I list it as a good pick in the weapon section, because it does give u more consistent single target DPS
with that said there're blessings that work more generalist
i see
krak grenade or shredder frag grenade?
Shrek grenades
?
green
Just go shredder
There isn't a lot of important enemies for Krak anyways
Ignore the bulwarks, maulers and monstrosities
Those don't matter
no fuck the bulwarks
i mean...if you insist
alr
I like Krak personally
But I also use recon las so grenades are the designated elite-killer
where can i see the vet guns' cleave values?
Pinned guide
can you add some more circles
I cant find it 😔
ty
they might not have the budget for more red circles
damn, the economy
I did that in v2 but they had an internal time limit for how fast you can do it
This afternoon
in this game trying to use a fast weapon would explode my ears
theres no ping cooldown ;.;
its also just more useful in v2, pinging a hookrat through a horde
evil hookrat that immediately leads to your death in 0.2 seconds after being hooked
yea theres not as much "fuck you blow up the entire screen" in v2
so hookrats are a much higher threat than their trapper equivalent
I think u can turn teammates’ tag sound effect off in settings
side note on a hookrat ive had it drag me into a secret room for chalices on one of the maps and my teammates just looked around in confusion on how to get me
lol I dont blame them
I have 1200hrs in that game and idk how to even get in those rooms
isnt that blood in the darkness
or enchanters lair
idk remember names well
oh if its chalices it has to be enchanters lair
gang nobody told me the hellbore was so sauced
you clearly have not been in this chat for very long 
😆
Any of you gurus have a good easy spot / way to farm 65 kills from firing down range penance . After 104 matches i have 35/100
What does that penance ask for
Kill 100 ranged enemies from 30 plus meters away
You would think its simple but not for me
Play expeditions and shoot at enemies far away
Ideally with guns that do well at long range
Is that considered las gun?
Any gun that does well at long range
Ok
For zarona special weapon ammo special skill does reloading one bullet make the entire clip thag special ammon or just the next shot ?
Just 1 shot
Helbore is the goat. It's my go to for havoc
like gang one shotting any target with that satisfying shot sound dude omg
people will tell you its still poop
which is crazy
i mean i get powercreeping in high level (haven't tried havoc yet) but i like to see people make the weirdest or weakest builds work
its one of the few things that maintains its peaks in high havocs
well they're speaking from their own experience
because they lack the requisite skill to make the gun work

best combat shotgun mark?
agri
For the shout should I get the toughness regen for allies or the revive?
Or is it ok if I get both
You never run shout without the toughness node
unless ure turbo cool revive shouter 😎
Wait genuinely what's wrong with Mister E? Im relatively new
he's wrong more often than he's right
Depends on if you want it for horde clear or specialist sharpshooting. Use the slug one for specialists, or use the horizontal shot for hordes
Sloptuber
About anything in particular or does he generally just push misinformation
So basically the majorkill of darktide?
latter
majorkill is at least sometimes funny
can't say the same for e
Ah okay. I've only watched like one video from him, which was about the plasma gun charge shot change, but other than that I have no knowledge on how reliable his videos are
lemme put it this way
he is neither good at the game nor knowledgeable about the game
but people like to assume both things lol
Ah, so like an unfunny version of zanny
unfunny & niche
cuz dt is not that popular of a game
I can almost guarantee u that u will learn more about getting better in DT reading 5 mins in my guide than watching 50 of his vids
What about Jeficus? I've relied on a lot of his videos coming back into the game. I heard hes pretty well known on gamelantern
same tier
maybe a little better
Damn really?
yea
well jeficus doesn't milk that many vids I think
so even if he was as bad or worse, he's not spamming it
How hard is the game knowledge of DT exactly?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3367063781
just read the "Damage Bonuses" section near the start
it will probably give u an idea
literally a 100 page guide and it's not comprehensive 😭
unrelated but this is pre vs post patch 1.11.6 (soulblaze & chem toxin dmg changed), not accounting for ADM changes
also made this, replacing tables
Oh, so im cooked, got it 👍
it's mechanically complex yes
it is a fatshark game after all
like I said
But how intrinsically "relevant" are majority of the stats to someone's gameplay? Like if i only understand the basics (toughness, spillover, stamina management, etc.) but dont know or memorize the more complicated stuff, will i still do fine in auric and havoc missions or will I get dogwalked by the game?
believe it or not, this is stuff that's simplified so that only the stuff most relevant to gameplay are shown
I could add crit mod and weakspot boost and crit boost to attacks if I wanted to suffer, but I chose not to
Fuck
for example in the "stagger, mass & cleave" section, there's this part at the end where it is VERY relevant to ur gameplay
and then u can look at ur weapons' attacks in their sections and find out if u can build them to have "enough" cleave
In other words cleave is you budget mass is the price
How much of this info is actually accessible in-game? Because ive noticed that some weapon stats are absent like the chainswords saw damage and the base crit chance of a given gun
very little.
😐
for example they don't tell u attacks' cleave at all
😑
and the in game stagger tables are effectively useless (inaccurate)
they also don't tell u how stagger actually works
whereas I actually show u what ur weapon is capable of staggering
so that u know that bringing ur dinky ass power falchion to fight 6 ragers at once is a really really really really bad idea
but bringing a relic blade to fight 6 ragers at once will make u feel very good and potentially want to jerk off
Why the fuck would they half ass the information available???

Fatshark special
Genuinely infuriating, honestly
But I suspected that when I realized that even at auric level meat grinder they dont add in monstrosities to test your weapons against
Also, why?
they werent in there initially and the thing has been updated a total of 2 times since launch
Like it CANNOT be hard to add a beast of nurgle next to the fucking Reaper

this is why u should mod
I am beginning to see why so many people do in this game...
yeah modding is mandatory if you want to actually test the game
And Fat Shart is just... fine with that?
yea cuz they don't wanna do a lot of things officially
for example scoreboards in game
pretty much everything on nexus is fine
Ah okay. Thank you for all the info and tips!
has strange opinions that aren't representative of how the game actually is and makes slop / low effort content, which is fine, but people take him as an authority.
jeficus probably has more wrong opinions but i don't think he presents himself as this h40 clearing expert that can tell u what the meta is and all the problems with the current game (he doesn't rlly play the game and is crazy good at sm2 from my understanding)
of what
Of me error coding through a game
you modding?
But it only happened this game.
and the blender and coding file is pissing me off to fix animation bulshit
So I really don't know what could possibly be causing that if its anything on my end.
ya i would guess it's mostly fatshark rather than u
hello real veterans, today i used the "shout" ability and it went on cooldown for negative six hundred and sixty seconds.
how can I prevent my veteran from doing this again, as it was very inconvenient.
thank you.
with least performative than last time i played
u got interrupted, u can just use it again and it'll fix
that sound like numeric us bug to me
thank you and thank you for your service 🫡
So revive shout is better now since no downsides, but isnt it still kinda bad? Like if you shout you have room to revive anyway
It's a Havoc thing mostly
It really doesn't mean much in anything below because at some point if you're handling the situation well enough, a good shout can change the pace enough to give time for a revive
In havoc, it's not the same thing at all 
Even if you shout, there could be a blanket of enemies coming behind what you just staggered and you can get submerged in the horde anyway
Revive Shout is extremely good for those scenarios.
Or you're getting laid into by like
55 gunners
Does anyone have a Vet build for havoc i could copy
pinned guide has builds
thank u
am gonna drop some spanish pop for on nuncio aquilia
Negative 666s? Sus.
hey, i suck at building and not really a veteran player. any buid to do the killshot penance ? * Killshot Ready - Penance
Kill 2500 enemies while at 10 stacks of Marksman's focus or more.*
i could think some funny stuff like recon slow firing
or a shotgun
easiest weapon is probably vraks infauto
headshotting far away unless you're skillfully land the shot at distance, otherwise, use high capacity good accurate gun and shoot at medium/short distance on headshotting
I suggest you not chase penance too often it would burn you out easily, driven insanity like i met a guy willing pay someone do 5 match maelstrom/auric to get the title
not my goal, just wondering how to achieve it without too much thought
i see, is depend how much you keep uptime of 10 stack mmf
if you crackshot kill a lot steal kill, you make progress faster
i'll try
either you want milkfish said vrak mag dump
or a shotgun much simplier headshotting
agrip is tighter spread so it make sense
OH
Yeah the build from that message should still be fine and fun for finishing Killshot Ready
Just shoot heads to 10+ stacks and then load your special shot on the Zarona Shotgun
aim at a horde
delete
rinse and repeat to penance completion
better than crabwalking with a Power Sword imo
I did it in like 2 days of running a few matches and it was on work nights
if you just load up and shoot hordes all day the penance goes by fast
I'd just put on the 15 stack node so you can still get kills that count towards it even if one stack because
try use tac reload it help to reload faster before you shot to empty rounds
more dakka per minute
this hasn't been a thing since the rework
that makes sense
the duration really isn't an issue anymore
it was funny seeing people crabwalking though
LMFAO
ye now you can just get enough stacks and start killing with melee
ok, i'm to bad at this game to get enough stacks 😄
PRACTICE
MILITARUM DRILLS
NOTHING LIKE IT.
i'm not even sure i do it right
malice or heresy you will kill faster, but as long the team not eat whole enemies like buffet
just kill with headshots 🙂↕️
yeah i was playing with people that were munching hordes. i'm ok now 😄
After all those years, that look is still peak
I was worried it'd underperform but it's been handling very smoothly
What's the longest zoom range of any weapon anyway?
without mod?
I think the best you can get (from vanilla game) is Kantrel Lasgun with Executioner's Stance activated
what he use VoC?
How do you complete the penance that requires you to blow up enemies with a frag while it's still in the air?
I find the fuse time to be way too long
Is there a way I can cook it or do I just need to throw it straight up
just do expedition and hit someone with mortar shell
Direct hit?
yes
Aight ty
got that one by complete accident honestly
How 😭
You just throwing it in the sky for fun
don't even remember 😭😭
probably some far away enemies and there was a nade pickup or smth
This is so funny to think abt
Vigilant Autoguns have a built in zoom when aiming down sights
Idk if this stacks with the zoom from Executioner's Stance but if it does then you get the highest zoom possible
Be careful because the zooming can make you tunnel vision hardcore
A lot of the time I see people talk about modding out the zoom
You say tunnel vision, I say target focussed 
the only awkward part is that there's no like
scope or anything
it's just regular iron sights
your Vet is just putting their face REALLY CLOSE I guess
The Til Schweiger school of weapon handling
I didn't realise how cursed that was until the rager pointed it out
Based.
Wouldn't holding the shotgun there just fuck your face.
Genuinely asking as guns aren't that popular here so I don't know this shit off hand.
Yes
That eye be going deeper into the skull after a shot

it should be against his shoulder
and he tucks his face into the stock to line the sight. rn his face is going to absorb the recoil instead of his shoulder ;.;
Thought so
Can anyone recommend an up-to-date recon lasgun build?
It's not really common to have aperture sights on a shotty either
Why is Infernus now the go-to blessing on Recons instead of Headhunter like in the past?
recon has shit finesse
without infernus the only benefit crits do is a slight damage increase and shocktrooper procs
In the past, procing shocktrooper was the whole point. More crits = less ammo spent
🤔
you can still crit without headhunter
and with infernus gets both that and applies burn
so overall more damage
Recon has tons of ammo to begin with as well
If you're really worried about ammo economy i suggest helbore at that rate







