veteran-class

[unreal nova]

Ppl are already using it with the old and you either move or aim.

[brazen mist]

Yeye I get it

[frank basin]

I fucked up the blender bone rigging gun

Now am tired

[brazen mist]

Old doesnt have stick though

I mean it failed for a reason

At one point it was being sold for 5 dollars

Kinder bueno costs more

New one seems to be a success

[unreal nova]

Naw. I can buy 6 sticks for like USD$2.80~.

Italian made ones even.

[brazen mist]

Damn here 2 sticks its 3 dollars

[unreal nova]

Not the trash fodder American ones.

[karmic spade]

Vets shouldn’t be trying to play zealot with a recon lasgun for decoration and instead should just play the gun guy like a decent human being

[brazen mist]

Well Im italian

Its like 2 euro or smth

[karmic spade]

They also shouldn’t act surprised when they get called out for this

[unreal nova]

SGD$3.65 for a triple pack of 2 sticks each.

[brazen mist]

Ngl they are expensive still

Its chocolate jeez

[unreal nova]

Yeah, absolutely but tasty so...

[brazen mist]

I get high on peanut butter now

I evolved

[unreal nova]

I dunno, I just have sugar. Cos can drinks are as low as 20 cents a can. Or I just have instant noodles/porridge.

[brazen mist]

Nah I dont eat istant noodles cause they have a shitton of calories for no reason

Like its water

Hows that possible

Also drinks I either drink redbull or fanta

But its 2 euro a can

1,50

[unreal nova]

33 cents red bull when on sale.

[brazen mist]

Damn bro thats so cheap

[unreal nova]

Currently 60 cents a can.

[brazen mist]

Nah here we are a failing economy so everything is mega expensive

[unreal nova]

Valueshop though. They are straight Thai domestic ones.

[brazen mist]

At least it stops me from buying more and getting a heart attack

[unreal nova]

IMO, better than the Western ones.

[brazen mist]

I used to drink like 2 a day

I just like the taste

Sugar free ones

[unreal nova]

I understand that bit.

[unreal nova]

WTF.

[silver patrol]

sugar free ones taste like shit, not gonna lie

[brazen mist]

Bro it has like more than 200 calories each can

[brazen mist]

Zero yes

Sugarfree its the same

Zero is dogshit

Thats not redbul

[silver patrol]

they have this

bitter aftertaste

[brazen mist]

To me normal one and sugar free are basically the same

And the whitish can redbull zero is real bad

Completely different taste

[unreal nova]

Doesn't matter. Only taste does.

That and it puts me to sleep.

[silver patrol]

i hate the sugarfree one with that silver and light blue color

absolute garbage

[unreal nova]

Only short gold cans.

HISS.

[tall torrent]

u gotta be more specific, too many failing economies in europe

[silver patrol]

here a red bull costs like a monster anyway

for half the liters

[brazen mist]

Infinite inflation and same salaries as 15 years ago

[silver patrol]

is that italy

[brazen mist]

Yes

[silver patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma985-jerma-italian-italy-flag-gif-27532722

[tall torrent]

that uh

still doesn't narrow it down much actually

[unreal nova]

Cheapest Monster is $1.50 a can.

[brazen mist]

One of the biggest but shittiest economies in europe

[unreal nova]

SGD. No stock at that price for a long time now.

[silver patrol]

i think Italy narrows it down a lot

[tall torrent]

did he say italy

[silver patrol]

ye

[tall torrent]

ah ok didn't scroll up

well at least they have good food

could be worse

[brazen mist]

Yeah that helps a lot

[tall torrent]

at least it's not UK

[frank basin]

jelly eel

[brazen mist]

Fish and chips

[frank basin]

fish and fries aren't bad

i know people will vomit over toast and beans

generic uk hating

[brazen mist]

Yeah but its not really traditional food lmao

[frank basin]

is ww2 food

[brazen mist]

You can get fish and chips anywhere

[frank basin]

toast and beans are ww2 stuff become culturally food

is basic yes

they the people joke uk colonize india for spices then they eat plain food

[brazen mist]

Lmao

[steep flower]

Its been popularized in the UK by the working class in the time the fishing business got booming & fish prices went down
It was a fast food eaten by workers after a long day
Read about it

So yes; its a national dish

Originating from UK just like Pasta is from Italy & Pierogi are from Poland

[unreal nova]

I mean, is simple and you can prepare it in like 15 mins. Just what ppl want after a day.

[frank basin]

Jelly eel

[silver patrol]

as much as french fries + fish can be a national dish

[frank basin]

Ketchup with fried fish

Or tartar sauce; that would be american use

[steep flower]

Fish-and-chip shops first appeared in the UK in the 1860s, and by 1910 there were over 25,000 of them across the UK. This increased to over 35,000 by the 1930s

[silver patrol]

yeah i mean

[steep flower]

Thats jewish

[silver patrol]

it's like making i dunno

[frank basin]

Is in britian

Gelatine eel

Is made when britian doesn't have a fridge to store fish

[silver patrol]

i'm not saying it's not a valid national dish

i'm saying brits can't cook for shit

[frank basin]

Britty colonize spices and never use them

At least medieval they do

Roast chicken, ham, pies

But modern is kinda slacking off

So they stick to random countries cuisine like america do

Pizza, hamburgers

Then brit like Mediterranean food

[steep flower]

Americans are from brittish btw

[frank basin]

Marytown is one

Theres itlian, irish, scottish

They come too

Then neatherland

[steep flower]

English

[frank basin]

Irish and scottish doesn't want be english

They call themselves own label

[steep flower]

They speak english

[frank basin]

Yes they do, but they doesn't want be them

Almost same as chinese and hong konger

Guangdong speak canton like Hong kong does

[steep flower]

Still; english language and what language Ameribois use?
Thats right! English

[frank basin]

Americanese

[silver patrol]

(simplified)

[steep flower]

Still english tho

W

[frank basin]

English has 'ou' suffix when american use 'o'

[steep flower]

Still English

[frank basin]

Is flavor or flavour

[steep flower]

English

[frank basin]

Which english

[steep flower]

There are 4 english types;
Brittish
American
Canadian
Australian
But they are all English
Educate yourself

[frank basin]

Aussie is far different accent

[steep flower]

So is irish & scottish

[frank basin]

Britty is feel crockney

[steep flower]

Still english

[frank basin]

Scotty has own accent

America just like simplified chinese

[steep flower]

Every one of them has it; boi distinct between accents & actual language differences

[steep flower]

Its still english in origin

[unreal nova]

No, no, no. Where Singlish?

[steep flower]

Thats singapoor

[unreal nova]

Hiya, Papa. Why you not know?

[frank basin]

Europoor, britbong

Amerikkka

[steep flower]

I use other version but i would get hate for it

[frank basin]

Is fuiyo correct?

[frank basin]

Which is?

[steep flower]

I won’t say it cause i would get hate for it
Read mah man; Read!

[frank basin]

I want to know

[steep flower]

Your curiosity will not be sated then

[unreal nova]

Yes. Malaysian and Singapore slang is similar tbh.

[frank basin]

Oh right malay has chinese in it

I thought is predominate muslim

Singapore is like hongkong of malay

[unreal nova]

Oi. Is Singlish la. What you mean?

[steep flower]

I jest

[unreal nova]

Except we actually got kicked out for being different rather than you know.

[steep flower]

[steep flower]

Imprisoned

[frank basin]

Yeah

It was poor fishing area become hong kong likes

[unreal nova]

Malaysia expect us to come crawling back begging for help in years. Hilarity ensures.

[frank basin]

Yeah

[unreal nova]

Naw, they treated Singapore like that weird state that half ignores the Muslim majority thing for some time before just cutting us off.

Fearing the mindset acting like an infection that might spread.

Because Muslims/Malay Malaysians get advantages based on race in Malaysia.

[frank basin]

People see singa is a dictator country use english only, but it has meaning value taught to understanding each other

[unreal nova]

Naw, language is like rojak.

[frank basin]

Didn't he make people speak english in public space then at home native tongue?

[unreal nova]

You need to know piecemeal of like 5 different languages to speak to some ppl lul.

[frank basin]

Like a deal for a deal

[frank basin]

Arabic, chinese, i forgot third one

[unreal nova]

More, for work and such. Easier to communicate with a shared language that isn't like, a local one.

[frank basin]

Corpo paper work talk to Korean, Japaneze

That could be 2 extra language

Then english

[unreal nova]

And English was pushed in by the Brits and is like a language that doesn't favour any of the locals THAT hard.

Assuming ppl are willing to learn it anyway.

[frank basin]

Did youtube make wrong history theb?

I remembered the president make people speak english for more understanding other local who speak different languages

[unreal nova]

I'm talking actual Singlish slang. It's literally rojak of 5 languages.

[frank basin]

Rather divided

Slang?

Rojak means slang?

[unreal nova]

English, Mandarin, Malay, hints of tamil and some drops of the other neighbouring countries.

[frank basin]

Right is a surrounded island

[unreal nova]

Well Hokkien as well, actually, but that's a dialect.

[unreal nova]

No. Rojak is a food. Is literally a mix of consideringly weird ingredients but ended up a delicious mix.

[frank basin]

Ah...?

Right

[unreal nova]

We use the term to mean roughly mixed things if not the food.

[frank basin]

Rojak make sense

[viscid sparrow]

if Rojak's meaning is either a type of food or roughly-mixed concepts, then is Wojak a Rojak of Rojak and Woke?

[turbid ibex]

OwOjak

[fading yarrow]

Dumb question

Was playing RykenXIV's Ciaphas Cain build (with Krak and Chainsword swapped out for Frag and Power Sword), and I noticed whenever I activated my PS and immediately swapped to Laspistol I would receive a significant sprint speed boost

Like, knife-surfing Zealot levels of speed

Is this known tech?

[unreal nova]

It's a pistol.

All pistols are nyoom.

Try Revolver and Bistol.

[unreal nova]

Same thing, they are zoomy guns.

I would only say slower than knoife.

[pallid jetty]

maybe cause of evenrt

[unreal nova]

And shiv, but well.

[fading yarrow]

I mean the specific interaction between the PSword and the pistol though. It feels almost uncontrollably faster and certainly faster then just having the pistol out

[unreal nova]

Just to be sure, not event, right?

[fading yarrow]

This is indeed in an event modifier mission

[unreal nova]

Because event just turns anything nyoom in coherency.

If event, it's cos you break the totems and activated the skulls in them.

Stacks up to 5.

[fading yarrow]

I see I see, I was unaware of this

[unreal nova]

It turns on when near teammates.

[fading yarrow]

Does it have a duration after leaving coherency? I don't think I was close enough to be in coherency in the clip

[unreal nova]

Nope. It just work when in coherency.

You can see the buff on the bar.

When it's dulled out, it's off.

[fading yarrow]

The red stack of 5 over on the right?

I see it dulls out as soon as I reach the med station

The power sword thing must've just been placebo

[gentle rapids]

We're gonna have this speed boost for a month and it's going to suck when it's over. such a huge QoL buff

[unreal nova]

Yep.

[unreal nova]

Depends on if teammate is near or not.

[tame lodge]

You're a speedhead

Seek speed anonymous

Urgently

[stuck prairie]

its so funny how fast you can go though

[unreal nova]

Knoife Knoife Knoife.

[gentle rapids]

I'll try to find one as fast as I can

[tame lodge]

😭

[grand perch]

I'll need to check when I'm home but I think it also triggers when you get hit

Only for a short time

[unreal nova]

No clue about that. I just abused Bot teleportation to gas as much to rescue for most part.

[brazen mist]

which mk is the best recon lasgun?

[unreal nova]

VIC.

[brazen mist]

whats that

[unreal nova]

The green one.

Middle of the line.

[brazen mist]

its the middle ground? not slow not fast?

[unreal nova]

Yeah.

[surreal rune]

im surprised we dont have a singular normal pistol yet

such as an autogun or stubber

we do have a generic assault rifle

[turbid ibex]

Dual stub pistols

[unreal nova]

Better ammo efficiency than blue, also more upfront damage without the downsides to mobility. Shoots faster than red and uses less ammo do the same amount of damage.

[ocean talon]

Re: Superiority Complex miscalculating damage

I think I found a bug, anyone able to reproduce before I post it?

My helbore consistently is hitting an elite dreg gunner for 663.

With conditions exactly the same except for taking 'Superiority Complex' it now hits consistently for 624.

It is a damage decrease against an elite by taking a talent that should increase base damage against elites by 15%.

Edit:
My build without Superiority Complex increases the base damage of the helbore's primary fire versus a dreg gunner by 40.77%, the talent that should increase this is instead reducing it to a net 32.48% increase.

[quiet lark]

it's correctly increasing damage for me

[grand perch]

you sure you got the talent equipped? i got a bug that undoes any changes i do to the tree somewhat often

probably to do with the extra loadouts mod

[hybrid plover]

Happens to me and I don't even have that mod

Feels like it's been fairly recent that I've been noticing it.

[outer cosmos]

yeah it's an issue in vanilla DT i'm fairly certain

i think there is a mod that fixes it on nexus but i don't use it and i'm too lazy to check

[viscid sparrow]

wait, WHAT?!

ok, guess I gotta unspec from Superiority Complex for now...

[quiet lark]

the undoing of changes, i believe they mean, not that sc doesn't work

[grand perch]

no he meant the loadout reset bug is in vanilla

[grand perch]

show builds

and gun

helbore with only sup complex damage works as advertised for me. 236 damage without sup comp, 272 with. thats a 15% increase

[ocean talon]

Of note - it works correctly for every other enemy type I've tested on. It might relate to the odd combination of dreg gunner head being unarmoured but also being elite. I'm not sure if there's any other unarmoured weakspots for elite enemies.

[grand perch]

calculates normally for dreg gunner head for me as well

340 headshot damage on left click shot. up from 296 without sup complex

[tame lodge]

Dreg shotgunner

[quiet lark]

working correctly for me too on dreg gunner

[ocean talon]

Mk IIIa; Stability 60, remainder at 80
Uncharged shot to weak spot
Irrelevant perks (Cara, Unyd)
Blessings are Armourbane (not in effect as shot is always on full health enemy), and Surgical (always waiting for full stacks before firing, so consider the attack definitely critical)

Talents that effect ranged damage:
Longshot (taking shots at point blank for consistency)
Exe Stance - Not activated so N/A
+10% Ranged Damage
Precision Strikes - +30% weakspot damage
Bring it Down! - N/A
Reciprocity - Not activated so N/A
Skirmisher - Not activated so N/A
(Disabled Marksman Focus for testing)
and then testing Superiority Complex

[tame lodge]

Armourbane Helbore

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-2773712783314774774

[ocean talon]

Retesting:
With Superiority Complex - Consistently hitting dreg gunner and dreg shotgunner with a critical weakspot uncharged shot for 624.
Without Superiority Complex - .... 664

[ocean talon]

Weight of fire fan?

[tame lodge]

No point in having Armourbane on Helbore

But that's not what we're discussing here today

Superiority Complex time

[tall torrent]

show exact build in screenshots pls

[heavy rover]

i use armourbane on helbore

mainly because if i miss a headshot, at least my teammate can still benefit

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-2773712783314774774

[viscid sparrow]

I was JUST about to mention something about Armourbane being good if the person wielding the Helbore has bad aim and hits more bodyshots than headshots...

oh wait

[heavy rover]

totally rare for me to miss btw, it's not like my aim is ass or anything, yep totally not

[tall torrent]

which buffs are active, and against which enemy

is skirmisher maxed across all ur tests?

[grand perch]

he said that earlier

[tall torrent]

ok

[ocean talon]

Hmm. I'm cracking heads pretty much non-stop, but I don't really feel like the time to charge shots is much of an issue.
That being said, I don't really get much use out of armourbane when 95% of stuff goes down in one. It's aight to 2-3 shot a crusher's head.
A blessing with rare use is better than one without any.

[tall torrent]

did u fire charged shot or quick shot

[ocean talon]

Quick.

[tall torrent]

ok that's prob the issue

quick shot's dmg profile is a scaling based on charge shot

[ocean talon]

If I did charged then it would exceed the health so I wouldn't get a usable number.

[ocean talon]

Oh. So the charged number is what's effected by talents, blessings, etc.?

And the quickshot is derived backwards from that?

[tall torrent]

it scales based on how much is charged

it's not actually a different attack template iirc

[ocean talon]

It is completely uncharged though. Is that not consistent?

[tall torrent]

so holding m1 a little longer gets u different results

nope

lol

[ocean talon]

Sick.

TIL then, thanks.

[tall torrent]

u can try clicking m1 quick shots as fast as possible and it'll get u diff numbers

[ocean talon]

^Ah I can't test this with armourbane, but I'll take a look.

I'm getting consistently the same number from spamming quickshot without armourbane.

Am I misunderstanding what you mean?

Do you think I'm fatfingering the shot and leaving m1 held down slightly?

[ocean talon]

What would you recommend for someone who clicks heads?

[frank basin]

What mk?

[ocean talon]

IIIa

[frank basin]

The slow?

I forgot for quite a time not playing to remembering the mark

[ocean talon]

Nah that's the IV. It was overkill in 40s from my testing.

[frank basin]

The middle groujd

[ocean talon]

It's the medium yeah

[quiet lark]

i think weight of fire or hot-shot are ur best options

[frank basin]

Ah

I was gonna add weight of fire

Because that use nice spam charge attack use

[ocean talon]

How comfortably does that dispatch armour then? I'd rather take shredders over krak when running with more uncoordinated teams.

[frank basin]

The rending strike 10% boost and marksman focus

Like that is the source

For trying keeping headshot stack up

You get benefit 25% rending total source

[ocean talon]

I'm not having issue keeping it up currently (xd).
The only real factor in that is space from melee, but I'm not having issue cleaning up with taxe and shredders either.

I'd need to swap +25 toughness to Rending Strikes, plus drop something else for Chink in their Armour for that 25%...
Meanwhile I can go a blessing for a 30% - even if it only applies on the second tap.

I suppose it can go either way.

[tall torrent]

armorbane is ok for IIIa vs crushers but they don't spawn nearly as much as they used to, and tbh if u wanted a helbore for shooting crushers, IV just does better in that regard
I think WOF is just generally strong (especially if u get the passive charge mod)

[hollow ibex]

surgical + wof is the ay

[frank basin]

Spamming the charge attack

[ocean talon]

^^ yeah, I'm aware of the spawn changes (rip). And nah, I'm not bringing helbore for them - it's just a bit of extra flexibility that it can also dunk them happily too.
Like I said, I'm not really getting much out of armourbane, but it's at least something.

I mean, I'll give WoF a go again.

[frank basin]

With mk IV?

[ocean talon]

IIIa still.
Using IV didn't really offer any better breakpoints in 40 - just my experience though.

Still oneshotting everything excluding mauler, crusher, bosses.

[frank basin]

With iron sight

[ocean talon]

Tragically. My monitor lets me put a green dot in the centre so the QoL isn't entirely down the drain.

I've done the scopes mod before, but not really fussed about it tbh.

[frank basin]

Weapon customization is looks drippy

[outer cosmos]

I'm only just now easing out of putting Carapace damage on everything now lol

tried tac axe with flak unyielding instead and it was actually quite yummy

[quiet lark]

ive been making carapace on my taxe for maulers and plasma gunners

[frank basin]

Forgot what's mine taxd perk is

It feel like 2 stam and something

[ocean talon]

fair, but at a certain point it feels a bit win-more. Like if a weapon deals with stuff well enough, then I'd rather boost it on the stuff it struggles a bit with - even if that stuff appears less frequently.

[quiet lark]

most the time i have taxe my gun does better damage into bosses anyhow

[tall torrent]

I only have carapace on like 4 weapons

[frank basin]

You hate carapace as everyone else does

No blame i hated too

[outer cosmos]

You're leaps and bounds ahead of me i'm only just now developing freedom of thought

[tall torrent]

I spent like an hour a few days ago just changing weapons to unyielding flak

used to run carapace on most things as well

[frank basin]

Maula still have cara but not an big issue

[tall torrent]

maulers don't have nearly as much hp, and their flak body gives more workarounds

[frank basin]

Yes not an big issue

[prime wyvern]

im too stupid to know what to actually put on weapons, i copy paste so I can just get out of the morningstar asap and shoot heretics :3

[hybrid plover]

No longer are we bound to the carapace meta

[tall torrent]

I finished DC sword overhaul in guide

[hybrid plover]

I can't wait to see the wonderful Flak ADMs!!!

[tall torrent]

beautiful

now just shock maul and TH left

[faint beacon]

More of a Flak Unyielding now

[tall torrent]

u will run unyielding flak on 90% of weapons and like it (I kinda do)

wish there was more perk variety tho like

attack speed?

extra stagger?

dodge speed?

[hollow ibex]

good point

i think dclaw should get stagger perks

[frank basin]

Sound lovely

[hard lake]

Looking for a build that has a high damage primary and decent melee weapon against crowd clearing

[tame lodge]

Your melee is the primary

So your statement confuses me

[hollow ibex]

i think he means a "high damage" and "decent" melee

[tame lodge]

Sounds like power sword 6

[hard lake]

yes sorry

how are the shotguns like? havent unlocked them yet

[hollow ibex]

agri/zarona = good, but needs specific builds

DB = very powerful, on like one build

assatran = ass

in terms of melee, power sword mk 6 like higui said and Rashad are the meta melee vet melees

if you're focusing on ranged vet Taxe Mk VII is the best option

[hard lake]

fuck it im going full double barrel

[hollow ibex]

falch mk1 also not bad on a ranged build despite its (many) issues

[hard lake]

can you send me the build if you have it?

[hollow ibex]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e1f05dc-6162-4d02-8a5d-ceb865e4f69a/stealth-bomber

[hard lake]

thanks

[hollow ibex]

realistically the only thing you need from this build are the DB set up

and these two nodes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1418078742198095964/706A021.MP4?ex=6a131b7e&is=6a11c9fe&hm=affd08899a92ba65b284f601694b0700022e580de50317bf72e543a03547e5a3&

this is how you use the DB

every 3 melee kills, fire the DB once

switch back to melee

it's very strong

[quiet lark]

i really like db with executioners stance, it's really fun with the spray tightened

[hollow ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1428625217718194277/6A17271.MP4?ex=6a133e2a&is=6a11ecaa&hm=59503b9d4198b532bdffa8d16dd2c341370fa804072388a207c6fec75b08a66d&

[hollow ibex]

ES works well too

[hard lake]

lmfao

so it instantly reloads a shell every 3 kills

[hollow ibex]

yeh

[hard lake]

thats beautiful

[hollow ibex]

and guaranteed crit

which results in infinite cleave

and stacking 6 stacks of bleed

on everything any single pellet touches

it's like everything is perfectly, beautifully synergized

[hard lake]

i tried look at the steam forums and the guides are so confusing

[tall torrent]

Just use mine or kuli’s

#veteran-class message

[hard lake]

is Siroskys not that good?

should be ban him?

i will take a look

[tall torrent]

He’s alr I just mean if u want full length guides

[hollow ibex]

"alr" 😭

thought we were friends path

[tall torrent]

Yk this is a high compliment since I’m Asian

[hollow ibex]

i'm also asian

so alr doesn't cut it

😠

[tall torrent]

Oh didn’t know

[hollow ibex]

pretty sure i told you

anyway i don't do guides

guides is path's thing

it's literally in his name

[tall torrent]

Me big dumb dumb sorry

[hollow ibex]

i just post funny but functional meme builds

[hard lake]

too much text, i will use Siroskys because he used images

[hollow ibex]

it's ok and understandable given how bad at math i am

[hard lake]

thanks

[hollow ibex]

paths / kulis guides are really good when you're ready to learn underlying mechanics/deep dives on how things work

and path has a good build section in his guide

[hard lake]

i cant thumbs up react you

hold on

[silver patrol]

wow i hate path because he forces me to play in a way i don't want to

[hollow ibex]

path made me use power sword and now i can't use any other weapon

[hard lake]

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yeah ok

fuck my stupid chud life i guess

[hollow ibex]

~_~

[tall torrent]

There’re sample builds if u scroll down

[quiet lark]

that guy @ed me and called me an uncreative sheep that needs a shepherd for saying i don't like eviscerator with shroudfield 👍

[tall torrent]

Just navigate to veteran sections

[silver patrol]

owned

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207

[tall torrent]

That sounds more based than I actually am

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075782743285301308/1448329868491100252/supra.gif

[quiet lark]

no the pizza guy that was arguing the other night

[tame lodge]

Real ones know Evis3 Shroudfield is legit

[hard lake]

can you increase the difficulty btw

[tall torrent]

Yea

[hard lake]

i cant see that option in the mission thingie

[tall torrent]

U might need to beat current difficulty missions a couple more times

[quiet lark]

it's on the bottom right, you need to play a number of games on the current diff to unlock the next

[hard lake]

ah

[silver patrol]

can't wait to play on malice again when skitarii comes out

(i want to die)

[tame lodge]

Don't worry

[hard lake]

also just how bad is the range on the DB?

[hollow ibex]

fuck me don't remind me

[tame lodge]

You can get to auric by level 26-27

[tall torrent]

It’s better than u think

[silver patrol]

better than you'd think

[hard lake]

jinx

[tall torrent]

But

[tame lodge]

Darktide shotguns actually have range

[hollow ibex]

pretty good against specialists, less good against elites

[tall torrent]

Don’t expect it to kill flamers and gunners at range well

[silver patrol]

darktide has a system that makes it so that enemy are hit by a minimum amount of pellets, regardless of how many actually hit

although you still eat shit with the damage falloff

[hollow ibex]

the bleed procs help a lot tho

[hard lake]

Is it just me or are the enemy designs a bit of a downgrade compared to Vermintide?

[silver patrol]

to say the least

altough

[hard lake]

I keep mixing up my teammates with chaff enemies

[silver patrol]

darktide doesn't have a disabling special that just teleports behind you

[marsh shard]

Yeah. Enemies is DT are pushovers compared to VT2 and the roster has signif less variety

Compare ragers to plague monks lmao

[hard lake]

Doesnt help that youre fighting in dark corridors yeah

[silver patrol]

the tide is pretty dark

[tall torrent]

Yea

[hybrid plover]

I can't believe they would do that

Shaking and crying rn

[tall torrent]

DT is density over individual strength

[hybrid plover]

Path why would you do that

[marsh shard]

VT2 doesnt have density?

[tall torrent]

I have much more creative insults than this

[hybrid plover]

Not NEARLY to the same extent

[marsh shard]

Density means nothing when you got ppl with infinite cleave

And the enemies themselves are dogwater

[tall torrent]

Auric HiSTG has >2x the specialist spawn cap than VT2 cataclysm lol

VT2 is only comparable on modded

[marsh shard]

Ahh, I play modded diff VT2

[hybrid plover]

I'd say yeah except the density has gotten legitimately a tad out of control since crusher spawn nerf lmfao

[marsh shard]

Tbh tho VT2 Cata is more threatening than h40

[hybrid plover]

AI director is tweaking tf out right now

I don't think Havoc has been this hard before

[tall torrent]

Surge 5 mins straight

So fun

[unreal nova]

Kill 1 of 3 trappers, new one spawns behind someone insta.

[silver patrol]

yeah literally

[tall torrent]

Some enemies in DT are actual direct upgrades over VT2 counterparts

Tox bomber for example

[silver patrol]

and i hope you are having fun meleeing that horde

because there is a silent poxburster inside

[unreal nova]

70% of things are silent.

[atomic void]

someone told me that darktide enimies and combat design were supposed to be way more advanced but they had to rush shit on release and they never returend to it lives free in my head

i'd love to see what they were cooking

[unreal nova]

I got more slient dogs than ever recently.

[hybrid plover]

Yeah specialists in general, the sound cues are so unreliable right now.

[tall torrent]

Prob smth to do with breakable armor and more visual damage indicators

[marsh shard]

Tbh I wish theyd revamp and add to enemy roster rather waste time on doodoo new gamemodes

[tall torrent]

Well we’re getting that lol

[hybrid plover]

They are tbf

[atomic void]

the convo was about enemy behaviors and movesets and stuff and i think it was exhil or someone knowledgable who said that

i dont remember it happened like 3 days ago

[unreal nova]

The game even hit a point the background music killed itself mid event.

[tall torrent]

They scrapped a lot of things to rush out a launch

[marsh shard]

Should have got it before the doodoo game modes

[atomic void]

real

[tall torrent]

I don’t think map/mode is being made by the same person that designs enemies

But yea

[unreal nova]

So only sounds were swinging my knoife and hit sounds.

[silver patrol]

i mean

how many new enemies did we get since release

[tall torrent]

Forgot

Do we count y1

[silver patrol]

what's that

oh year 1

[tame lodge]

At least 4

[tall torrent]

Year1 additions like chaos spawn

[silver patrol]

isn't it like

pretty copied from vt2

looks better in vt2 honestly

[unreal nova]

Except faster.

[marsh shard]

The base game character classes are finally as good as they should have been at release.

Issue is weve powercrept and the enemies remained doodoo af

[unreal nova]

As in, closes distance easier with the leap.

[silver patrol]

yeah, once

i think the only real new addition was the plasma gunner

[unreal nova]

Think they can do it multiple times. Easier to see if you kite with a stealth ability.

[tall torrent]

DT Tox bomber is direct upgrade of VT2’s globadier

[silver patrol]

right that's ""new"" too

[tall torrent]

It’s not exactly new they just invented buffs & debuffs on top of the gas

[silver patrol]

yeah basically

same animations as the bomber too right?

[unreal nova]

Needs a nerf still. Either smaller area or shorter duration.

[marsh shard]

They try to make it difficult by making it rain doodoo enemies, or raising hp of doodoo enemies

But the enemies are doodoo, and quantity>quality doesnt work when infinite cleave exists.

[outer cosmos]

slightly different i think? not enough to reaaally be distinct

[silver patrol]

i think they are the same but slowed down

[outer cosmos]

slowed with reverb ass enemy

[silver patrol]

man, it's crazy how we never got any actually distint enemy since release

[tall torrent]

Packmaster is pretty new

And his stats are kinda crazy

[outer cosmos]

technically the bulwark is a darktide original

[silver patrol]

i mean since release tho

[outer cosmos]

yeah

[silver patrol]

also packmaster doesn't exist because he is a mode that doesn't exist

[outer cosmos]

demonhost is cool but that's also not since release

[tall torrent]

I think it’s just psyker’s broken density scaling and hive scum being massively over-stat

[silver patrol]

also i think fatshark will do a funny move and actually forget to bring it to normal missions

[unreal nova]

Not funny, just forget about it.

[silver patrol]

an accidental prank

[unreal nova]

Like they just do at times.

[outer cosmos]

tbh i don't know how well packmasters would mesh into maingame being able to summon disablers at will

probably fine

[molten pond]

hey, hello

[tall torrent]

He’s basically strongest boss in solo

He’s more durable than every other boss

Applies an insane debuff

[molten pond]

how am I supposed to form teams for Havoc Assignments? Just reached the first one.

[tall torrent]

Summons disablers

[tame lodge]

At least 5

[toxic reef]

Early havoc is quite easy so just invite whoever

[molten pond]

yeah, tried that, got the message "some party members can't do this assignment" or something like that

[quiet lark]

means they have to play a maelstrom and/or touch the terminal

[silver patrol]

uh oh, someone hasn't done a maelstrom

stinkyyy

[molten pond]

lol, I had to, otherwise I wouldn't be able to enter the havoc terminal

[silver patrol]

yeah, but someone of your group hasn't

[molten pond]

they're gone by now XD

[tame lodge]

Because

Radio Operator exists

Allegedly

[silver patrol]

Radio Operator must have sucked ass since they don't want to bring it back

[molten pond]

so, this havoc thing, is the endgame, basically? ranking it up?

[tame lodge]

The 21st also exists

Sometimes

So at least 4

[silver patrol]

yeah, sure

[tall torrent]

It’s a poorly made “endgame” for bragging rights and Diamantine

[unreal nova]

Guy just summons inf elites

[outer cosmos]

don't forget the free cosmetic set that actually looks good for once

even though it's covered in dirt

[tall torrent]

Too bad the arms aren’t rendered enough for vet havoc set

[unreal nova]

If you get crazy arse spawns that event and can't find him, means he got stuck somewhere while still flooding the game

[silver patrol]

btw you lose ranks if you lose times in a row

[outer cosmos]

yeah...

[unreal nova]

Path, that is literally every vet set barring 1?

[tall torrent]

Yea

Actually more like

Almost all human sets

lol

I use this now cuz it’s drip

[outer cosmos]

yeah the new helmet really adds some flair to otherwise basic sets

[unreal nova]

Fatshark failing to competently make skins/base and the third party just following blindly.

[tall torrent]

Tbh if u don’t hold power sword heavy all the way or jump

It’s not that noticeable for a lot of sets

But rly it’s a lot of copium

[outer cosmos]

i am quite fond of the vostroyan recolours

[tall torrent]

They’re good too

[outer cosmos]

they're all i have lol

on vet specifically

[tall torrent]

But I rly like this black grenadier armor set

With the skulls krieg helmet

Immaculate vibes

[outer cosmos]

the shoulderplates add a lot to it

nice and bulky

[tall torrent]

It’s an actually good looking armored set

Vet has way too many jacket /coats

So bad

[outer cosmos]

need more tempestus-adjacent armour sets

[pseudo fiber]

I didn't get the vostroyan recolours because the pants wouldn't match

however I spread my original set as far as possible

[tall torrent]

My dudes look like inquisitorial black ops rn

[unreal nova]

Not jumping? But that's just something ppl do at times.

[meager linden]

Wake up, Veteran Sentry Chest still only has one glove and pauldron

Is there anything that makes life worth living

[tawny badger]

I like how there’s several Veteran sets that feel like they’d be better on Zealot and vice-versa

[marsh shard]

Vet shredders are great too

[tall torrent]

Yes but not to the same extent

Esp since uncanny got nerfed

[marsh shard]

Nah you right, the shredders are amazing but share a niche with inferno... and inferno owns all

Actually nah, inferno is bad. Thats why devs buffed it last patch. Needed more damage, clearly

Inferno shouldnt pierce shields

[tall torrent]

Staff psyker technically got a big nerf this patch

[marsh shard]

Still best class in the game

[tame lodge]

And inferno staff got buffed 3 times in the same patch

[marsh shard]

The issue is game balance.

Classes have been massively improved over the years and the enemies remain doodoo.

Devs have artifical difficulty by having massive waves of doodoo enemies, when instead focus should be on improving mob quality/increase mob roster instead of adding doodoo game modes

[thorn lark]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/r3MuSO7hSq

This is unreal

[marsh shard]

Shielded enemies should shut down cleave. Ragers should be threatening. Mauler overheads should ruin your day

[pseudo fiber]

What a muppet

[tall torrent]

All of these already do work

Inferno doesn’t interact with cleave at all

[pseudo fiber]

We're getting more shields too

[tame lodge]

Another ogryn victim

Another Evisgoat15 victim

[marsh shard]

Inb4 inferno staff just cleaves and melts em

[pseudo fiber]

probably lol but htat's an inferno issue lmfao

[marsh shard]

So what youre saying is inferno needs more buffs? Lol

[pseudo fiber]

and scriers too

[outer cosmos]

infern and flamer ignore density they don't interact with cleave mechanics at all

[tame lodge]

I agree

Buff inferno

[marsh shard]

Right, SG buffs are wild

[outer cosmos]

Buff inferno let me stack soulblaze 100 times on a single enemy

[tawny badger]

new scrier's gaze buff:

• while active, Kinetic Flayer cooldown reduced to 0s

[unreal nova]

You forget, while active, KF causes BB to chain to everything around the primary target.

[tawny badger]

of course, how could I forget such an insignificant detail

hm

ogryn psyker

full-auto flinging rocks like

https://tenor.com/view/zenyatta-overwatch-videogames-gif-7480020

[slow sky]

The mods removed it what was the post like

[unreal nova]

The comments discussion bit explains.

Nazi things much.

[hybrid plover]

"Otto Von Gaspeople"

[unreal nova]

The name of the character alone.

[hybrid plover]

Very fuhnee joke

Haha

[slow sky]

Yeah but like
What was the rest of the content of the post

That doesn't explain why the post was made

[hybrid plover]

Probably complaining about being reported since the comments seem to hint to that.

Or someone mentioned it in a not so good light to them and they decided to post a picture of it

Since it seems it got deleted for naming and shaming.

[fierce spoke]

Should I look for a new Recon Lasgun with Collateral as the Dump stat.
Or is keeping my Stability dump stat good enough?

[hollow ibex]

collat is the dump

but dumping stab is totally fine too

[severe zinc]

I was looking to go after the Power Falchion again and was wondering what the best stuff for it was? I’m running a weapons specialist Vet with it if that helps.

[clever flicker]

Definitely collateral. Stability is underrated on the recon, especially if you plan on using shocktrooper. The more shots you land, the more crits you'll proc, meaning the longer your ammo will stretch and more often infernus will stack too

[fierce spoke]

That's a great tip. Thank you.
I normally run Headhunter with Infernus, so that's right up my alley

[tall torrent]

unyielding, flak
blessings are unfortunate so go with any between cranial / overload / wrath

[hollow ibex]

headhunter is pretty bad on recon las, use dumdum instead

dumdum buffs burns

[tall torrent]

Updated bolt weapons & braced autogun

[tame lodge]

0.5 finesse

Sub 80% adm

Still outdps Ogryns peashooters

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-ishowspeed-crying-gif-9927421093776034953

[thorn lark]

Guy was like: I wanna name my vet Otto-von-Gaspeople because he always wears a gas mask (in a Krieg outfit). I don't understand why people are saying "go fucking die" to me. I am a fan of WW1 and I am even Jew!!!!

[quiet lark]

hmm

[hybrid plover]

"I am even Jew"

💀

[brazen mist]

once I finished the campaign what do I do? Im level 23

I got heresy diff

[thorn lark]

it's supposedly automatic impunity

[quiet lark]

first hit level 30

[prime wyvern]

whatever you want

quickplay, expeditions, maelstroms, mortis trials

penance hunting

gooning in the morningstar

https://tenor.com/view/good-night-siesta-cat-kitten-blanket-gif-9763633

[unreal nova]

Is like being able to say Chink because Asian Chinese.

[quiet lark]

havoc is suspiciously missing 😞

[prime wyvern]

theyre not level 30

[unreal nova]

Cos you can't do that till 30.

And beaten a mael.

[tall torrent]

Yea cuz it’s ass

[quiet lark]

oh true in my head i was thinking and after hitting 30

[amber vortex]

Krieg fans are never beating the allegations

[hallow drift]

Had a guy blast some AI of Patrick Star yelling the n-word in Barotrauma and he was like "WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING" as we proceed to beat him to death and ban him from the server

I don't understand the fascination with just getting yourself killed and spending most of your night staring at the server browser

[latent dune]

had a dude in squad™ start reading meinkampf to 5 different squads and he got kicked from all of them and he complained the entire time. he left after that

[unreal nova]

Someone needs common sense.

[latent dune]

genuinely don't get why people embarrass themselves that

[latent dune]

thats just funny😭

[unreal nova]

Because stupidity is common.

[brazen mist]

where do I get good guns? is my only source of weapons the emperor gift at the end of a mission>

armory stuff is bad

[covert wadi]

You can upgrade

[outer cosmos]

Level a weapon’s mastery to 20 -> buy a bunch of grey copies of said weapon until it has the stat spread you want -> upgrade it to max and win

[brazen mist]

so basically there are no unique drops

[outer cosmos]

Until you can comfortably do that with resources yes you’ll be relying on random loot

Nope

[brazen mist]

what stats do I look for in a recon lasgun

[outer cosmos]

For endgame mobility or stability dumps are both interchangeably fine

60 in either one of those and 80 in the rest

[brazen mist]

what does that mean

oh ok

[outer cosmos]

For levelling stats don’t really matter

[brazen mist]

hows this

[outer cosmos]

Yup that’s a darn good recon laz if I’ve ever seen one

[brazen mist]

good Ill max it

lmao

[outer cosmos]

Brilliant

[brazen mist]

what perks and blessings?

[unreal nova]

Wrong. Dump collateral.

If recon.

Lul.

[outer cosmos]

Forgot that collat is useless

[unreal nova]

Has 1 use.

You can stagger a tox bomber if you aimbot target him when he starts the pull out animation.

[outer cosmos]

In my defence it’s five in the morning and I haven’t slept at all

[unreal nova]

You will fail if you dump collateral.

[hard lake]

how do i get Rashads Combat axe?

[unreal nova]

But GL even making it work in real situations.

[outer cosmos]

Dumdum + infernus is what I run on it but I don’t really use it all that much I just know those are both decent blessings

[unreal nova]

You can swap marks in inventory.

[outer cosmos]

In the time it takes a tox bomber to actually whip a grenade out and throw it they’d be dead five times over lolol

[hard lake]

is there a guide for this? im a bit clueless

oh wait

i see

so get mastery level 10

[unreal nova]

7/10 usually.

For 3 marks weapons.

[unreal nova]

Why, kinda pointless barring maybe high havoc... but then recon pick on vet is questionable.

[hard lake]

so getting better weapons isnt as tedious as Vermintide 2?

[unreal nova]

Yeah. You just suffer finding maxed curios usually.

[outer cosmos]

Das what I’m sayin’ boss

[unreal nova]

Only thing you might struggle is finding a minmaxxed plasma and ripper.

[hard lake]

basicaly want rashads combat axe with DB on vet

[outer cosmos]

I LOVE DB SHOTGUNNNNN RAAAH

sorry had to let that one out of my system

[unreal nova]

Just pull for greys in armoury till you get the minmax then upgrade.

Everything barring the initial maximum can be changed.

Just costs dockets.

So only care about the right side numbers.

[shrewd topaz]

which isnt too bad

unless youre malding for 420s 🗿

you just check shops on reset

[unreal nova]

You could find 17 +3 stams and 0 17% toughness...

That was my oggy btw.

There's a reason I ran +9 stam oggy.

Oh, I just spent 100k melk bux, no luck lul back then.

[shrewd topaz]

just be luckier

smh

[silver patrol]

btw

for plasma gun

absolutely nothing changed for it right? people still just spam m1 and forget charged shot exists?

[unreal nova]

Yep.

[silver patrol]

lol

lmao

[unreal nova]

Only thing is you can no longer shoot into massive hordes to hit a trapper.

[silver patrol]

i remember everyone theorycrafting m2

[unreal nova]

So just don't aim into 50 random chaff expecting to hit said trapper.

[silver patrol]

well you still pierce what

6 people, at least?

[unreal nova]

If they are actual chaff, yeah.

Otherwise, is same as always. Charge if you really need to pierce a horde but eh.

[celest elk]

I love using the MK llb infantry lasgun, my fingers have never felt worse

[hard lake]

@tall torrent thoughts?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a054023c-e7f7-4a2b-b53b-f66fbab78952/veteran-combat-shotgun-build-that-fucks

[silver patrol]

oh brother

[outer cosmos]

It’s not the best overall

[hard lake]

oh

:/

[silver patrol]

it's pretty bad even

[outer cosmos]

I know I’m not the guy you pinged but you should know sooner rather than later

I agree it’s not good period (no disrespect intended to the guy who made it 6 months ago)

[hard lake]

man getting builds is rather complicated

[silver patrol]

is this yours or did you find one

[hard lake]

i dont wanna read

[hard lake]

found it

he made a vid on it

[silver patrol]

i wouldn't search on gameslantern

[hard lake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlL6LPVt4ZM

Youll see why I picked that build based on the title

[outer cosmos]

Don’t go into gameslantern without either the prerequisite game knowledge to sift through the bad stuff or unless directly linked to it by someone who knows their stuff

It’s full of sludge you’ll be deceived into not having fun

[silver patrol]

it has so much garbage that you would make a better build by going by your nose

[hard lake]

know where i could find a build for combat shotgun on vet

[outer cosmos]

My brain probably

[silver patrol]

pinned guide

it has 5 sample builds

[outer cosmos]

That also

[hard lake]

idk how to tell which of those 5 fits with combat shotgun

[silver patrol]

it also has weapons it goes well with

[outer cosmos]

Combat shotgun is best with the weapon specialist keystone everything else is extraordinarily flexible

[silver patrol]

i think you would use the double shotgun one

[unreal nova]

Sometimes ppl need more idiot-proofed builds.

[hard lake]

inititally yes but i just unlocked the combat shotgun

its quite fun

[silver patrol]

yeah i mean

the use is the same

[hard lake]

oh

[silver patrol]

you don't really go wrong with the hybrid one

[unreal nova]

Pick up and play type so they don't need to worry.

[silver patrol]

i think the ones in the guide are pretty idiot proof

like man, that guide he linked sure loves its reload speed

[hard lake]

im guessing Hybrid and Brawler work the best with shotguns?

[silver patrol]

yeah imo

no wait

[outer cosmos]

is there a specific melee you feel like using too

that's important to think about

[hard lake]

i havent unlocked many yet

[outer cosmos]

i see

[hard lake]

the axes seem fun

[silver patrol]

yeah i think hybrid would go well

[outer cosmos]

they are fun

[silver patrol]

or brawler, maybe more brawler

[unreal nova]

I mean, some like their constant shots. Probably not worth that lvl of investment though.

[outer cosmos]

note that i'd swap out the toughness regen node on weapon specialist for the ammo replenishment one so you can go back and forth between melee and shooting

[silver patrol]

taking 10% reload speed over 15 toughness is wild imo

and opening salvo

and like 4 other talents

[outer cosmos]

the way you play shotguns on veteran is constantly swapping between them and your melee into hordes to kill fleshy stuff

and the reload is better for that than the toughness (generally(IMO))

[outer cosmos]

not talking about this it;s unrelated

im referring to the thing the guy asking for builds said

[silver patrol]

yeah i was talking about the other build

[outer cosmos]

specifically the ws node

[unreal nova]

Thus too much investment that likely isn't worth it. Unless they are like, don't need toughness cos I'm too good mindset.

[outer cosmos]

hold up i need to actually look at that build again as soon as i looked at it it seemed off

[silver patrol]

the gameslantern one?

[outer cosmos]

yuppers

oh my goodness gracious

[silver patrol]

i think it's just a shotgun meme build

[outer cosmos]

i didn't take the time to look at it too closely oh my goodness it's tragic

[unreal nova]

It is. Just too much investment trying to just do a doom playstyle build.

[outer cosmos]

which is strange because they straight up ignored the keystone that facilitates that

[unreal nova]

Which is extra funny. Maybe they don't care to melee. Shrugs.

[shrewd topaz]

is it triple barrel

[unreal nova]

Reload speed build.

[outer cosmos]

that is also trying to build for crits for some reason but does not take manstopper or flechettes on the actual shotgun

[shrewd topaz]

bleh

[unreal nova]

Why questionable as heck.

[hard lake]

how do i get colorful weapons?

higher rarity?

[distant plaza]

you want weapons that swear more?

[hard lake]

no like yellow or green weapons

[distant plaza]

mastery unlocks the other marks of a particular class of weapon

[hard lake]

or blue

purble

[outer cosmos]

consecrate at hadron

[hard lake]

ooh

i see

[outer cosmos]

feed her your plasteel and diamantine

[next ridge]

Other than surgical what blessing and perks for qucik stub revolvee for weapon specialist build

Plesse

[outer cosmos]

i am quite fond of hand-cannon

[next ridge]

Thnx

[tall torrent]

genuinely bad

[tall torrent]

just use my guide and navigate to here

[sly orchid]

skipping confirmed kill augh

[turbid ibex]

skipping bottom right entirely and most of middle

also no survivalist

and for whatever fucking reason mmf on shotgun

[hard lake]

currently building your saboteur build

[distant plaza]

Dumb question, does activating the chainaxe pop you out of infiltrate?

[tawny badger]

Like revving it up? No

[distant plaza]

Hrm, that gives me a bad build idea
Thank you

[grand perch]

agrip shotty does silly damage with MMF

lots is wrong with that build, but MMF + agrip shotty is not one of them

[next ridge]

Is getting 6 adept assasin kills per level considered “good”

[toxic reef]

no

[next ridge]

Like 19 an hour?

[next ridge]

How do i get more

[distant plaza]

What weapons are you using?

[toxic reef]

try revolver

with headcannon

[next ridge]

Stub listol or double barrel shot gun

[toxic reef]

like you only need 3 melee kills or so to get max crit chance

[distant plaza]

Yeah, use the pistol

[toxic reef]

and then you just swap and pop a headshot

[outer cosmos]

headcannon on revolver

[next ridge]

Yes but theres not that many elites onmalice do i need to go tl auric or something

[outer cosmos]

yeah i put my homebrew space marine legion minis on my revolver

[toxic reef]

yes

auric usually helps with getting more out of a single mission

[next ridge]

So head cannon and surfical? With what perks

[toxic reef]

maniac flak

[next ridge]

Thanks

[brazen mist]

I just got sent back to mourningstar while I was in mission

almost like a crash but no reconnect

didnt get 1 xp

nice

only 20 minutes wasted

[toxic reef]

ye it can happen and it does it to all of your teammates too so there's nothing to reconnect back to

[brazen mist]

bruh it was the first mission out of 5 I did I would have been able to finish

jesus

[tall torrent]

revolver?

unyielding flak, surgical point blank

[half root]

so, stupid question cuz i'm out of the loop, do any of the base classes get anything new when these DLCs come around?

I mostly play vet, and have no want to play something like Hive Scum or the new class coming around. We ever getting anything new or just told to kick rocks and buy into the expensive DLCs

[serene bough]

If you mean new dlc themed weapons/cosmetics then no

The 4 main classes have rotating cosmetics in the cash shop whereas the other 2 haven't

[silver patrol]

no

[half root]

ah, so never getting a new gun anytime soon, got it.

[dry cloak]

when in dt

[silver patrol]

well, who knows about that

just saying that a new class dlc means literally nothing for the other classes

maybe the update after that

maybe they'll add an underpowered weapon that nobody uses a week after

[half root]

Like I get the special Arbites guns don't make sense for the rejects to get, but when new updates come around you'd hope the existing classing would get something worth a damn. I'm not asking for the Skitarii's Glavanics but you'd think basic stubbers the hive guard uses could end up on some of these rejects, in 1 handed form

[silver patrol]

well, they have had a glacial pace with new weapons for the other classes, so i wouldn't hold my breath

both hivescum and veteran are shown with a heavy stubber in images and yet

[hollow ibex]

The only human stubbers in the game are used by heretics…

What if the art was actually drawings of heretics? It all makes sense now…

[narrow widget]

gunlugger oggy art seems pretty heretical to me

just missing the horns n shit

[bitter turtle]

is the falchion still hot garbage

[narrow widget]

it's mid

[tawny badger]

An honest-to-god single Not-A-M1911 for all classes would go so hard even if it was ass

[silver patrol]

same as it was before

[bitter turtle]

Sadness

[hollow ibex]

technically it's better now

after it got its 3% damage buff

[half root]

even then, i've seen the weapon lists people have made before, there's a lot that could be covered, but I just assume Fatshark is saving those as DLC exclusive to new classes that only a few will adopt

got called away a few times, had that half finished before someone startin yelling about some IRL issues

[pseudo fiber]

When you have the buff from all 5 totems the power falchion becomes servicable

[feral jetty]

hey friends how yall doin

[unreal nova]

To be fair, anything is with that. My GF was on a roll to play weapon she hasn't mastered yet and 5x buff made everything nicer to use.

[tame lodge]

Turns out some weapons only need

180% extra damage

To function

And like 30% attack speed too

[pseudo fiber]

I'm not joking I had 3 and it took 5 hits unpowered to kill a trapper

Like I hit her

Looked away assuming she doed

And kept having to look

[tame lodge]

😭

[unreal nova]

Wait, it's that high?

[tame lodge]

Yup

[unreal nova]

I thought it was some haha smaller number and paid no mind to it.

Since my accuracy with trauma was non-existent anyway.

[tame lodge]

At some point my character started taking no health damage from bursters

That was disorienting