veteran-class

[tall torrent]

revolver

[gilded wraith]

I need a cash sink, anything else similar to plasma I can dump a few million into?

[turbid ibex]

another plasma gun

[gilded wraith]

hah

[hollow ibex]

mm

ripper

[turbid ibex]

have a collection of them like how rich people collect yachts

[hollow ibex]

besides plasma and ripper

[gilded wraith]

What's ripper looking for?

[hollow ibex]

oh yeah

FGS

if you really want to burn money

for minimal gain

[hollow ibex]

66% ammo

[turbid ibex]

66% ammo and 74% collat i think

[hollow ibex]

yeah i think that's right

[turbid ibex]

why fgs

isnt that just warp res dump

[void dragon]

someone remember a good H.Laspistol build? think i screwed the one i had

[hollow ibex]

you can dump it lower than 60

for max peril gain

i don't bother

[formal hamlet]

What was the ideal mark and blessings for recon lasgun again?

[tall torrent]

all 3 are ok

[thorn lark]

I'm mad that I have to go through it before shock trooper for my helbore

[amber vortex]

Infernus and dum dum

Black or orange (can't remember the actual marks)

[teal canyon]

Dev: add more armor
80% of weapons: "useless noises"

Can't play the vet because the use of guns are punished

[toxic reef]

sounds like skill issue

[amber vortex]

Know what really deals armour?

CHAINSWORD

BEST WEAPON IN THE GAME

100 YEARS CHAINSWORD

[teal canyon]

i wan dakka-dakka, not plasma-plasma and stabba-stabba

[toxic reef]

except that this is a melee first game

[teal canyon]

sounds like a skill issue for me

[toxic reef]

just run guns that can actually deal with carapace like bolter or helbore

[teal canyon]

you cant aim, aint it?

[toxic reef]

instead of crying that your full auto guns can't kill carapace

[teal canyon]

update 1.1.10 - 80% of weapons fukken deleted

[toxic reef]

it's like you use guns to kill other stuff than carapace

[teal canyon]

also - strawman argument. even at arguing skill issue is glaring

[toxic reef]

im just baiting you

you're clearly not looking to change your playstyle or viewpoint so

[teal canyon]

oh wow, what a novel idea, nobody thought about that before!

[teal canyon]

THAT THE POINT! You almost got it! Backwards that is.
I wanna run something beside a freaking old boring bolter

and even more boring lucius

sheesh.

[turbid ibex]

Just dont bother shooting carapace

The guns that can handle it are the exception, not the rule

Its supposed to be your melee/kraks job

[unreal nova]

Then do so, but don't complain they do nothing to crushers. It just how they were made.

[strange crow]

Vet has really good melee though, not really punishing vet unless u only run chainsword

[steel veldt]

Falchion is pretty good

I might use it over knife, which is a pretty deal to me

[teal canyon]

Is it? Felt bad. But i was at GUN build, so naturally everything felt kinda bad

[steel veldt]

I wasn't talking to you

also skill issue

use melee weapons too

[unreal nova]

Gun build is still 25% melee in this game.

[steel veldt]

Inb4 Zealot gun build

[unreal nova]

Otherwise, just play uprising where you can shoot EVERYTHING.

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/secret-universe-secret-roblox-feodoric-gif-16628722592380084695

[faint beacon]

Falchion is king of mediocrity

It’s usable yes but it’s just

The very definition of “meh” summarized as a melee on Veteran

[steel veldt]

promotion lads.

oh hi Gale

[faint beacon]

Unironically convinced they were to afraid of making it decent or accidentally making Power Sword but mobile and decided to heavily hit its ADMs and not give it damage blessings aside from Cranial

[tough nova]

Shitty stagger to boot. I like the moveset too but its so ineffective.

[gentle lake]

Why did they make power falc

[somber axle]

Yeah it looks fantastic with the other armoured pants and the green cadian vox pack

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1153279327513886770/1473935178492547092/CadianTime1.png?ex=69ae6e1a&is=69ad1c9a&hm=99e6978d7fb0b6dcb0f0eabe49a90847abd88850dd74c2a7c8661dc441708a05&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

oh whoops wrong pack hold on

[steel veldt]

how get taht

[somber axle]

it was from a previous shop rotation

[steel veldt]

aw

[somber axle]

unfortunately the only way is wait and see what shows up every other week

[tame lodge]

Appeal to the people that don't want to power up the sword every 3 swing

Also

Took them a year to add this mediocrity

https://tenor.com/view/angel-angel-devil-csm-this-shit-so-ass-deadass-broken-heart-gif-17406653291425555681

[steel veldt]

3 swings? I thought it's just one

[tame lodge]

With Power Cycler Psword gets 3 powered swings

[steel veldt]

ah

Yeah I don't fw that

does it really do THAT much more damage than falchion?

[dry cloak]

yes it does

[steel veldt]

I assume cuz Finesse?

[tame lodge]

Falchion is about less than half of Psword dps
According to the vet guide writer

[steel veldt]

wtf

I guess Imma start using it

[nova carbon]

Do yall have any good youtube vet build guides?

[steel veldt]

Do I charge-heavy or charge-light?

[tame lodge]

Mk6

For multi targets

Power up light light light

For single target

Power up push attack light light

[steel veldt]

I got mk3

and no power cycler

[nova carbon]

new to vet and my builds suck and i can't find a gun that is right for me on him

[tame lodge]

I don't watch DTubers

Try the pinned guide

[teal canyon]

-Fork is not good for soop
-Skill issue
Do you numbnuts grown in one secret lab?

[steel veldt]

@tame lodgeI'll just power up into light

unless I am agaisnt carapce

then heavy

[faint beacon]

Local Reminder: Veteran is a hybrid class, if you want a more gun heavy class consider Hive Scum cause they actually have Infinite ammo unlike Veteran

[steel veldt]

I meannnn

Veteran is more longer ranged than HS

and they specialise in special/elite elimination

HS just shoots everyone

[faint beacon]

Elite and Special picks

You’re still going to be heavily engaging in melee

[steel veldt]

Oh definitely

[teal canyon]

Because it's not worth using guns. If you want some sort of fun: double barrel, weapon specialist and some sort of melee that is easy to pull off and kill one guy. Usually a knife or dueling toothpick. Grenade based on what you have problems with, hordes or big guys.
Being a marksman sucks, plasma boring, and for melee you have a zealot.

[steel veldt]

I mean I got my buddy back into DT

he likes Exe stance

and he clears house with it on Auric

with either recon or boltgun

[faint beacon]

Exe Stance Vigilant Auto is still insane on Havoc 40

It’s less the weapon and more the build

Veteran you need to build your talents around your weapons

[steel veldt]

I don't lol

I run serrated blade on everything

[hollow ibex]

[turbid ibex]

guns are still really important for dealing with ranged elites and most specialists

and exestance making you even better at doing that obviously is very good

plus the added survivability makes it a really versatile ability

[steel veldt]

What is the other blessing to use for Power Sword?

Wait

does power sword not count as blocking when charging it up?

[hollow ibex]

it does not

[steel veldt]

...

[hollow ibex]

PC + sunder/bm

[steel veldt]

I already hate this weapon

[hollow ibex]

older weapon design

on mk6 you can block cancel anyway

so it's very fast

mk3... tough luck

[steel veldt]

ugh

why do people evn use mk3

[hollow ibex]

vibes ig

it's straight up shit compared to mk6 tho

[somber axle]

I mostly watch ChocoB and Mr. Unc. ChocoB probably has a few builds listed in their vids for Vet that they take into Havoc but Mr. Unc is mostly Zealot/Hive Scum from what I've seen

Reginald does Vet build guides too I think

[hollow ibex]

most youtubers suck ass

ChocoB is an exception

haven't watched Mr. Unc

[somber axle]

ChocoB is pretty good

Mr. Unc is just entertaining

[hollow ibex]

Reginald has questionable takes

[somber axle]

Well Mr. Unc is both good and entertaining but I think ChocoB might be the better player

[hollow ibex]

Regi's understanding of the game is more based on vibes than actual research

[somber axle]

There's also vaguely Tanner but that's double questionable

[thorn lark]

It’s only on relic blade and falchion iirc

[somber axle]

Like they're good at the game but I think sometimes they accidentally spread the wrong info

[hollow ibex]

tanner's straight up brain damaged

does no research

arrogant as fuck

[thorn lark]

Khandones, a.a have good builds for all classes

[hollow ibex]

and an unapologetic bigot

[somber axle]

they're a bigot? I had no idea

[thorn lark]

a.a is the one behind fatmangus

[somber axle]

I think the best bet for finding a solid Havoc Vet build would be ChocoB

they list their talent builds in their video descriptions

with weapon blessings/perks

plus they show a lot of footage of them clutching up when things have gone bad and they're running either solo or duo trying to save a run

[nova carbon]

Vet would be my fav class if they had a sniper option instead of a dmr

i hate dmr

[thorn lark]

He has deleted all his community posts about Ebonics, Jews.

[somber axle]

Longlas one day please

[somber axle]

idk what Ebonics even is and I think I might be better off not knowing

[nova carbon]

give me a 50 bmg anti tank rifle please unnaturaly large aquatic animal

[thorn lark]

Play helbore mmf and one shot everything. Except crushers. You 2shots them.

[somber axle]

it's the closest thing to a Longlas we've got right now

[thorn lark]

Yeah

[somber axle]

and tbh a scope would be so awkward for Darktide with all the close quarters combat

probably why they haven't added it yet

[nova carbon]

we have a close range scope , shame it is stuck on the weapons that don't need it

The ironsights of some of the autoguns are atrocious

[somber axle]

if you're able to sit still, stare down a scope and go tunnel vision sniping something down a hallway you're probably only alive because you're on a lower difficulty or you're running Infiltrate + Low Profile

that sort of behavior is going to die to poxwalkers walking up and slapping them from behind

like a Smite Psyker

[nova carbon]

that implies the bugged poxburster wouldn't kill you first

but i get it

[somber axle]

the reflex sights on the Infantry Lasgun are fine yeah

but it'd be weird to consider a Longlas without a scope

maybe if it was some sort of short range scope but then you're still sorta going tunnel vision

[steel veldt]

I just showed a pox burster, dodged back and slid with Power Sword nad I died

??????

[thorn lark]

Ninja crushers

[nova carbon]

just for some reason all the autoguns are built for close combat and can't even do decent damage in midrange

[somber axle]

silent poxbursters and silent crushers competing to see who can sneak up on the Smite Psyker first

[nova carbon]

like why?

and i do not mean the dmr ones those can be fine but they cause carpal tunnel

[somber axle]

I thought the Vraks Infantry Autogun was still one of the best autoguns?

did it change

[nova carbon]

let me check wich one that is

[somber axle]

the only thing I remember about it is that it shredded everything short-mid range but it sucked to use for tap firing snipers across the map when they're perfectly behind crates and pixel perfect laser sighting your team

[nova carbon]

yeah that one is decent but im still perplexed as to why fatshark decided to give the assault rifle equivilant close range damage perks

why put this on an assault rifle?

[dry cloak]

close range is 12.5m

thats the default shooting range for most time

[somber axle]

you'd be surprised at how much combat is within close range

[nova carbon]

Idk what to do then. Close range i can usually handle well with melee but if i want a full auto option for midrange im outta luck it looks like

maybe if they introduce a new gun it will be the right one for me

gonna try to make some usable ones in the meantime

maybe the automatic lasgun

[somber axle]

Recons can be fun for just vomiting a laser light show at specials/elites

I'd check with the guide guy for close range because I could swear that the way the damage calculation works is that up to 12.5m you get the full damage bonus and then it slowly scales down to around 30m or so before you stop benefiting from it

like double check for sure because I'm mostly working off memory and can't find a source to verify

[thorn lark]

Revolver, bolter, helbore….

[somber axle]

Recons are pretty accurate mid range to long range though and with shock trooper they're not too bad on ammo economy

[thorn lark]

Vigilant with 3 burst not good enough for you?

[somber axle]

oh also Boltgun can technically go full auto but like

outside of magdumping a boss for funsies

you never want to

[steel veldt]

Power Sword without PC is so hard to use

oh my God

Am I even doing damage?

[somber axle]

that weapon is designed for Power Cycler yeah LOL

[silver patrol]

it is

[steel veldt]

So annoying.

[somber axle]

hey isn't that gun available on Hive Scum

I should try it for how goofy that probably is on that class

[dry cloak]

the best

[silver patrol]

it is meta

for ranged builds

[somber axle]

I thought needle pistol was meta

or is that only for melee

[silver patrol]

not for ranged builds

[somber axle]

that makes sense

Vraks Infantry Autogun is just so strong

[hollow ibex]

PC is just a tax because otherwise psword would be way too strong

[steel veldt]

Why not remove it

and make the sword a bit better

[faint beacon]

It’s meta for Despie builds on Scum

You literally never have to engage with melee

Pop stim solely for armor

[nova carbon]

what is the chainsword dumpstat?

[dry cloak]

mobility

[nova carbon]

would this be a bad take then?

[fast sundial]

i'd bring it along just for funsies because shredder is suffering too

[hollow ibex]

it'd be insane tbf

PS with slaught + sunder/BM would just be so broken lol

[turbid ibex]

yeah

PS really should not be receiving any buffs in its current state

[steel veldt]

I just hate the concept of PC

[hollow ibex]

iiwii with a weapon this strong

[turbid ibex]

that looks like an UwU-adjacent emoticon

[tropic halo]

the only buff needs is the dodge distance

[tall torrent]

nah

[tropic halo]

But me dodges too low

[tall torrent]

that's the balancing factor

[turbid ibex]

its the one thing barely holding it back

[tame lodge]

No no I agree

Buff Psword

No other melee matters anyways

[amber vortex]

OTHER THAN THE CHAINSWORD

1000 YEARS CHAINSWORD

CHAIN GANG

[errant bear]

Duelling

[amber vortex]

DOESN'T HAVE ANY CHAINS

[ebon inlet]

guys

whats a good gun for gun vet?

[prime wyvern]

ohh

the one that goes pew pew pew

[ebon inlet]

besides the recon lasgun

[prime wyvern]

or uhh the uhh

pew pow

and the BANG BANG

[ebon inlet]

oh ok

so braced autogun

got it

[prime wyvern]

...

bolter

[ebon inlet]

no no

you said

pew pew pew pow bang bang

braced auto gun

thanks

[prime wyvern]

D:

[ebon inlet]

not so funny now aint it? >:c

[prime wyvern]

no that one goes drdrdrdrdrdrdrdrdrdrdrdrdrdrdr

[ebon inlet]

genuinely wished braced was better

[turbid ibex]

dont

[ebon inlet]

the vigilant are burst right?

[turbid ibex]

plasma, revolver, bolter, helbore, vigilante, laspistol

most ranged weapons work on vet

[ebon inlet]

not even infatry?

[turbid ibex]

save for brautos which just suck and ilas which is a downgrade from laspistol

[turbid ibex]

infantry work

vraks is still stupid dps amounts

[ebon inlet]

hate the fact that infantry have no sight

[turbid ibex]

but not really something for your ranged elite and specialist sniping job

[ebon inlet]

why do brautos suck?

geniune question

[turbid ibex]

iirc their damage just sucks

and also no aiming

[ebon inlet]

i like the braced thingy tho

its funnier than aiming imo

[turbid ibex]

like theres no point in using them over other weapons

[ebon inlet]

its weird tho

a vraks infantry has less bullets and less damage than a vraks braced

[turbid ibex]

lmao

fuck no

[ebon inlet]

i mean state wise

[turbid ibex]

vraks is one of the highest damage guns in the game

[ebon inlet]

i lowkey dont get what makes the infantry better

maybe im just stupid

[turbid ibex]

insane dps

[ebon inlet]

due to fire rate?

that it?

[turbid ibex]

and finesse multipliers

[unreal nova]

They trade damage for stagger/suppression. Killing>>>staggering.

[turbid ibex]

the adms are also probably better

[ebon inlet]

so the stats are a lie?

honestly

im confused

sorry

[turbid ibex]

thats just the base damage per shot

[unreal nova]

As in, vs inf auto.

[ebon inlet]

i think i get it now

[turbid ibex]

the damage shown is before finesse and adms are applied

[unreal nova]

They are base stats. Which can change based on buffs and such. ADM matters as well.

[ebon inlet]

yeh now i got it

whats ADM btw?

[turbid ibex]

you have to go for the detailed view

[turbid ibex]

armor damage multiplier

[ebon inlet]

inf vs brac (for me to look at

[turbid ibex]

everything has individual damage multipliers for each armor type

[ebon inlet]

ah i see now

[turbid ibex]

look at the crit+weakspot values

[ebon inlet]

technically the damage on the braced is higher but only on non crit bodyshots

[turbid ibex]

there is an insane gap between vraks dps and brauto dps

yeah

[ebon inlet]

but if the infantry gets a crit its insanely better

[unreal nova]

As a vet, you want to go for headshots.

[turbid ibex]

and for crits as well

[ebon inlet]

now i understand

[unreal nova]

You even have a node that's +weakspot damage for a reason.

[ebon inlet]

the only one that comes.....kinda? close is agri braced

but less ammo

and less fire rate

[unreal nova]

Agri is the strongest?

[ebon inlet]

of the braced?

seems to be

[unreal nova]

It is still worse than the strong mark of the inf.

[ebon inlet]

agri vs vraks bragun

[ebon inlet]

yes

[unreal nova]

And ppl say that's the worst one of the 3.

[ebon inlet]

this is agri braced vs inf vraks

[ebon inlet]

likely due to rof

inf vraks 13
braced vraks 11
braced agri 8

so the dps goes down not due to damage

but rof

[unreal nova]

That and if you are consistently hitting heads, the inf auto vraks will shred any braced.

And all of them are really close ranged guns.

[ebon inlet]

really the problem i have with infantry?

aim

[unreal nova]

Check the close range damage modifier for inf auto vraks as well.

[ebon inlet]

IF I COULD JUST PUT A SIGHT ON IT

[unreal nova]

Tell you a cheat, aim at the neck/above chest lvl, the kick will hit the head after a few shots.

[ebon inlet]

see here's the thing

at this point?

i'd just use las gun

because auto fire mod

[unreal nova]

Just use the laspistol.

[ebon inlet]

i really like the gun but my finger hurts due to clicking too much

[ebon inlet]

for a stance build?

is it that good?

[unreal nova]

Las pistol is inf las gun but better.

It's funny but it's the truth.

You want the fast mark.

Try it.

[fickle narwhal]

What's the main role of the vet at havoc 40? should i take care of specialist right=?

[narrow frost]

kill enemies

it depends on your build

There isnt really class roles

its just people's playstyle and buikld

[tall torrent]

kill everything, especially ranged elites and specialists like bombers & flamers

[thorn lark]

If

[thorn lark]

Hmm, where's the zealot backliner?

[narrow frost]

often one killing specials in the back

[distant plaza]

i ran into an elusive martyrdom veteran today in havoc (i just started playing it)

[narrow frost]

seen a few invis zealots do that

[thorn lark]

Ainz validating my playstyle fuck yeah

[unreal nova]

No competent vet to clear? Zealot with bistol having to compensate.

[thorn lark]

Turns out that I do that a lot when playing bolter zealot

[unreal nova]

We are talking vet, you should be able to at least hit 40% ranged weakspots. Otherwise you would just suffer going left side lul.

[thorn lark]

Not a fan of the vraks to do that honestly

[fickle narwhal]

Don't you have problems with hordes while you're trying to deal with specialist and ranged elites?¿

[unreal nova]

Everyone does, but the better players just deal with it.

[tall torrent]

wats ur melee weapon

[fickle narwhal]

the knife, i'm with a laser recon build but i feel like horde is my weak point at the moment i'm not sure how to deal with the horde

[tall torrent]

yea that's the problem

vet usually wants strong horde clear melee

[fickle narwhal]

like the rashad or something like that?

[tall torrent]

yea

[tame lodge]

3 and 9 are
7 is single shooter

[tall torrent]

or just power sword lol

[unreal nova]

Or drop one-two frags near.

[fickle narwhal]

i'm with the krak grenades spam for the crushers and bulls

i think i'm going to give it a try at the power sword

what's the specific mark i should use?

[unreal nova]

You can use as emergency horde hole opener is you have LP bistol, but not reccomended.

[tall torrent]

VI

check pinned guide

[thorn lark]

Or use taxe if you don't want to lose mobility

[fickle narwhal]

do you think it's a good idea to swap this for bandit?

[tall torrent]

why do u skip both toughness nodes

[fickle narwhal]

i'm following a guide, this was the skill tree

[ebon inlet]

which is the best?

[tall torrent]

this build isn't very good unfortunately

[orchid hemlock]

Which guide?

[tall torrent]

missing a lot of dmg
missing both +25 toughness nodes (u should get at least one)

[fickle narwhal]

it was this one https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff74c60-007a-4e54-91c7-b39ff600583f/guardians-spec-ops-sergeant-havoc-40

[orchid hemlock]

Lacerate Knife

[turbid ibex]

this is dogshit

[tall torrent]

it's missing a lot of dmg unfortunately

[turbid ibex]

dont trust random gameslantern builds

[orchid hemlock]

Headhunter is also bad on Recon

It's a blessing that has a deception on how good it is

I have a recon build but people think it's troll 😔

[turbid ibex]

recon runs infernus dumdum for blessings

[fickle narwhal]

this one?

[tall torrent]

this also isn't that good

[orchid hemlock]

Yes this is my build

[thorn lark]

What the

[fickle narwhal]

yep i tryed but since people always want me to use the scream i don't feel confortable without it

[orchid hemlock]

I like it because I use recon very aggressively to the point that I just use onslaught as a damage node, not for the debuff

[turbid ibex]

if people demand you to run shout theyre prob just bad at the game and need the extra safety net

[orchid hemlock]

A regular recon build probably looks something like this:

[fickle narwhal]

thanks i will try it tomorrow, what blessing do you recomend me to use with laser recon

[turbid ibex]

infernus dumdum

anything else is not worth

[orchid hemlock]

It's always infernus dumdum

XIV you can maybe go dumdum deathspitter for the extra cleave

[midnight galleon]

whats a good build for Hellbore

[turbid ibex]

sniper build on pinned guide

[warm gulch]

yes

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https://tenor.com/view/smyker-psyker-warhammer-40k-darktide-gif-18327129578094586864

[midnight galleon]

...lol?

[warm gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/timon-and-pumbaa-inflation-weight-gain-animals-gif-21635473

[slow sky]

https://youtu.be/Mv9aRrDIlfw

[warm gulch]

Um

[gilded wraith]

When did we get down on deathspitter? Even with the 6c?

[languid crypt]

Whats the difference with the recon marks?

[gilded wraith]

Fire rate, ammo efficiency, cleave.

12, 6c, 14 I think... stupid mk changes

[languid crypt]

thx

[tame lodge]

Mk 3 (triple burst)

[void dragon]

mind someone explain me the good ranged weapons for Zealot? do some favour a specific keystone between Blazing and Inexorable? is there one that is solid to use even in martyrdom builds outside of the bolters?

[hollow ibex]

here you go

[languid crypt]

Appreciate that

[red bluff]

Can anyone help with a lasgun build?

[orchid hemlock]

Which lasgun?

[red bluff]

Recon! The middle mark, the one with high damage

[orchid hemlock]

Ok sure post it here and I can roast it 😈

[red bluff]

Oh? How can I post it?

[orchid hemlock]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[red bluff]

I will say I am currently level 22/30

[orchid hemlock]

That's fine just post the build assuming you are 30

[red bluff]

Hrm... Im not good at making builds, damn

My problem is that I dunno what direction to take it!

[orchid hemlock]

You mean the tree?

[red bluff]

Yup, as well as blessings

I kinda wanna go for crits?

[red bluff]

Thank you!

[warm gulch]

Gup

[sudden flame]

Hello veterans chat, i have a question is the new power sword thingy thingy good

[narrow frost]

Highest melee dps weapon on vet

[sudden flame]

The power gla, gla kark it, the fancy power sword!, also which mark you using?

[narrow frost]

mk6

[sudden flame]

Thanks

[tame lodge]

Falchion

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-bro-hand-on-shoulder-gif-11963500747147243380

[sudden flame]

Yes!, which mark u using?

[tame lodge]

Mk1 iirc

[amber vortex]

Its ok

but you know whats better?

CHAINSWORD

[sudden flame]

Rev Rev?!

[amber vortex]

Rev

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124

[magic ermine]

SHOVEL SUPREMACY!

[void dragon]

believe in our lord and savior chain axe you unworthy rejects

https://tenor.com/view/tts-asmodai-repent-make-him-repent-gif-18135020

[tall torrent]

Power sword is top 3 melee in the game
Power falchion is mid at best, needs 8-10 or more buffs to be good

[narrow frost]

apologies. I thought you meant Power sword. Not power falchion

[sudden flame]

No biggie

[sudden flame]

I pair chainaxe with bolt pistol to get kharn the betrayer vibe ( don't repent me )

[willow rain]

Power falcon SQUAAAAA

[void dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-astartes-bolter-boltgun-dakka-gif-17604583

[thin stone]

Is veteran good now

[austere mica]

They have been

[thin stone]

Alright, I'll stick to playing SM2

[thin stone]

What is the easiest class right now to play for noobs?

[austere mica]

psyker

[thin stone]

are you sure about that 👀

I heard psyker used to be the hardest class

[austere mica]

Oh well if you want something that actually plays itself then its arby

If you have a baseline level of positional awareness and melee competency then psyker is better

[thin stone]

Jokes on you I have neither kekw

Despite having ~400 hrs in the game 😭

[austere mica]

Honestly good

Psyker is a problem

[thin stone]

Honestly good?

[austere mica]

Not having a psyker

[thin stone]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-gif-3831815201415389844

Anti-psyker propaganda

[tall torrent]

it's just that psyker is ridiculously op

but vet has been very strong since 1.9+

[sudden flame]

NOT ONE STEP BACK

GET YOUR KARKING BOOTS IN

[void dragon]

vet might be busted, but at least feels fun to use
psyker just feels dumb strong for no cost for using the GODS DAMNED WARP

and then there is Hscum doing drugs that could kill nurgle

[sudden flame]

It's lean

[void dragon]

fent needles that are infused with soap

[sudden flame]

And bleach ( not the anime )

[tame lodge]

Shield Ogryn

You just plant it

Let team deal with rest

[sudden flame]

And use fart ability ( taunt )

Ez game

But beast of nurgle can eat chu

[void dragon]

how dare you suggest future generations of ogryn to act in such lame way

ogryn is made for krumping

[sudden flame]

I think there's a mod replace taunt sounds with the fart meme

[sudden flame]

If fat shark buff them then is krumping if not, no krumping

[void dragon]

das why me ogryn is hive-err-nat-ing, so i was playing arby, zealot and veteran instead

[sudden flame]

True me ogryn also

[void dragon]

Obesefish so jealous of our fatness that send us to dream for better guns

[tame lodge]

I dare

[sudden flame]

They need new weapons, rework, and add snap hound neck, or throw and crush enemy with their hands and pick enemy up and throw them at enemy

[void dragon]

Making current weapons be actually good with real ammo instead of cotton candy would be massive

making BLO be a good keystone for a gunner ogryn would be amazing

[sudden flame]

Somehow kickback still goated weapon for ogryn ( cry about it )

[void dragon]

also making so the hitbox for disablers to be smaller so our dodges are not crippled by our fatness

[sudden flame]

How heavy are the ogryn we're talking

[void dragon]

kekback is nice, but why me gun that its ammo is ogryn fist size deal less damage than umie barrel of 2?

[void dragon]

morbidlyobese, that's why MorbidlyobeseShrimp, aka obesefish when he is misbehaving, is jelly of us

[mighty python]

Just beat the Karnak twins, holy fuck they were tough

[void dragon]

as per usual the most dangerous part is not the twins themselves, but no one killing the army that is with them, aka the real killers

only one player vs one boss folks, everyone else dont interrupt the dance and KILL EVERYONE ELSE

[tall torrent]

if the karnaks didn't have forced gas phases they'd prob die in 15s tops

[void dragon]

twins not having resetting shields on hp breakpoints means that they are VERY vulnerable to be nuked

just isolate the melee one and beat her rights do a pulp

[mighty python]

Getting stuck in the gas was what downed me most times in my experience

[void dragon]

something to improve is your loop of activating your sword for horde crushing, the moments you got stuck were because of that, the weapon is slow but it will cut down all and everyone

also, you should do more push attacks on boss enemies, the stab on weakspot HURTS

[tall torrent]

just get to the vented spots quick

[mighty python]

Noted

[mighty python]

I'm probably doing something wrong but every time I try to push stab with the power sword it doesn't do it

[void dragon]

odd, it should not be that hard to keep holding attack when blocking

outside of getting slapped in the back idk what could be the issue

[mighty python]

Again, probably an error on my part lol. But next time I play I'll try again and see

[void dragon]

give it a try in the psykanium something to note is that since the weapon is slow and could get interrupted is important to face fights by anticipating dangers to have room to keep activating it

[mighty python]

Gotcha, ty

[molten cedar]

What's the plasma gun's dump stat?

[midnight wyvern]

@tired egret

[willow rain]

LMFAO

Based name

[midnight wyvern]

that guy has to have this server muted so hard

lmao

[molten cedar]

Okay I'm not just gonna roll for that oddly specific thing

[midnight wyvern]

its not odd

[willow rain]

It's actually easier to roll that than a perfect 60

Lmfao

[molten cedar]

I do that a lot, I'll just go to brunt's and just keep buying the same weapon over and over to get the best rolls

[midnight wyvern]

so why is this not a time to do that

[willow rain]

If you truly don't care about minmaxing id dump charge time cuz I value my extra shot

[molten cedar]

62 therm, 78 charge is good enough

[midnight wyvern]

[willow rain]

I think that'll work...?

[midnight wyvern]

same thing as running 60 thermal

[willow rain]

No

Lmfao

Yeah

If it isn't above 69 thermal you don't get your extra shot

[willow rain]

My reaction to this entire convo ngl

[molten cedar]

Ehh I'll work it out

If I don't like it I'll trash it

[willow rain]

Try and dump charge

I don't care past that, I don't like plasma anyways

[midnight wyvern]

yeah neither lol

bolter all day

[willow rain]

Recon las ftw

Brrt go brrr

[midnight wyvern]

handheld autocannon go doof doof

[fickle narwhal]

whait, can you parry those laser shoots?

[fickle narwhal]

Hey Orcka, i'm using this build again, what's the buff on the curious you recomend

[errant bear]

Eh not really golden toughness is busted and vet can have it every 15 seconds or so

[turbid ibex]

If its to the point they yell at you for not running it theyre bad

[unreal nova]

Just get a dump instead. If only your 2 and 8 swapped. That can be a working one.

Thermal dump is better feeling for most.

[orchid hemlock]

I don't remember curio set ups anymore, should be in the pin guides

Tbh anything works as long as you don't go wounds

For perks I would run toughness, gunner resist, revive speed

[hybrid pulsar]

It’s so embarrassing

That vet actually has a passive that he can shooter from cover

And I never knew

[mighty python]

No I parried a melee hit from a poxwalker that was off to the side

Also those are plasma shots

[hybrid pulsar]

Parrying a plasma shot is not a good idea for your weapon or your chest

[steep flower]

Basically; outdated af; was useless on launch

[hybrid pulsar]

hey it had its one in a lifetime use when i was pinned by gunners with no walls nearby

though actually crouching for cover is so weird when we can dash and slide to them

[steep flower]

Sometimes its suicide to do so so yeah…

Sometimes you have to shoot back

[dapper pier]

Absolutely adored my first use of heavy laspistol
Any blessing tips?

[turbid ibex]

dumdum and either ghost or infernus

[ebon inlet]

guys i normally use either shovel or knife, what are other good melee weapons?

been using chainsword a bit too

[turbid ibex]

power sword, rashad, tac axe

[ebon inlet]

(for a melee build

rashad?

[turbid ibex]

combat axe mark

[ebon inlet]

ohhh o'k

also what gun pairs well in a melee build just to deal with pesky ranged threats/specials?

laspistol maybe?

[turbid ibex]

revolver, bolter, plasma

[ebon inlet]

ill give revolver a try

braced or sight?

[turbid ibex]

zarona

[ebon inlet]

sight

gotcha

[turbid ibex]

better one shots

[ebon inlet]

just gotta aim well

[dapper pier]

A or B?

[elder fiber]

C

[turbid ibex]

R

[tame granite]

print screen takes a screenshot if you're on pc

Or F12 if you're using steam

anyway, I like B

[steep flower]

A looks better

[turbid ibex]

when are we getting f13 key

[dapper pier]

On xbox
I couldve used the in built screenshot button, but it takes way too long for the upload to happen, plus the finessing to get it on phone for editing

[steep flower]

My condolences 🥀

[formal ice]

Also why did you took a picture with your phone

[dapper pier]

1: you bastard now i cant unsee it
2: i just explained it

[formal ice]

Explicitly it

[dapper pier]

Autocorrect caught me

[formal ice]

It takes like 10 seconds

Lazy skull

[dapper pier]

Id prove you wrong if i wasnt prepping for sleep

[fickle narwhal]

A, those pants on B has some clipping problem on that chest sadly

Love that chest but as soon as a pack have back pouches clips alot

[tall torrent]

neither
A color doesn't match
B has clipping issue

[still dove]

is onslaught good for a recon build?

[turbid ibex]

onslaught only really helps with shooting crushers

[still dove]

oh ok nvm

[turbid ibex]

which is not something you should be doing

[still dove]

yea i have kraks

this is my bottom tree, melee is power sword

i want focused fire so bad but i can't really drop anything for it

[turbid ibex]

tbh if i had the extra point i'd rather put it into exploit weakness

[still dove]

i was thinking about that bc look at my tree

[tall torrent]

it's not worth

[orchid hemlock]

Why it's probably the worst subnode

[silk brook]

so pretty new to vet and working on grinding out all my penances right now. i was wondering if anyone had a nice infiltrate build they could possibly share with me?

[orchid hemlock]

I saw a funny stealth bomber build

Stealth in general is mostly used for picking people up and doing objectives, so I don't see too many vets using it

Zealot uses it for one shotting bosses

[silk brook]

no yeah, im just trying to get my penances done thats all

i typically use shout

[orchid hemlock]

I would assume you just switch to the stealth node in any build and treat stealth like a disengage tool

You only take one subnode for stealth anyways

[silk brook]

heard heard, ill just go ahead and do that then and go for the two charges

tyty ❤️

[orchid hemlock]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e1f05dc-6162-4d02-8a5d-ceb865e4f69a/stealth-bomber

I found the build

[lean igloo]

Is the On Overwatch Penance actually even slightly possible or is it just there to troll me?

[tame lodge]

It's possible

Just don't take health damage

[silk brook]

i got mine on rolling steel

[tame lodge]

So keep toughness at 100% or golden

[brave acorn]

Do it on malice and take a good blocking melee weapon with you. I used tac axe.

Plus all the toughness and tdr buffs you can get

[analog mural]

What aspect of it seems impossible? Just play a low int malice or something

[dry cloak]

Low int doesnt exist anymore

[somber axle]

You could also try with Infiltrate, Overwatch and Low Profile. Put combat ability regen perks on all curios and just sneak your way to getting the penance done on Malice

[dry cloak]

Proper or cheese

[somber axle]

Low Profile gives you less threat after stealth breaks so as long as you're near another team mate enemies will forget you exist for a little longer and you can sorta chain it with Overwatch's second charge of Infiltrate

[silk brook]

wym? ran it with a chorus zealot, i ran infil and we had a decent random psyker with us

[analog mural]

Oh lmao, didn't even realize

[somber axle]

Plus Low Profile means you can still fight and you won't need to just spend all day hiding and not playing the game

[dry cloak]

You can cheese it on rolling steel by self exploding at th start and dying then being resurected at the end

Its 3 man game then but oh wrll

[somber axle]

Can also grab an ability recharge stim to have your infiltrate back asap if needed

[halcyon blaze]

I did it without cheesing on the Torrent map, regular Malice, infiltrate and just paying attention to surroundings.

[tall torrent]

I can help if ur still up

[orchid hemlock]

One of the easiest penances

[tall torrent]

it's easy if cheese

but one of the hardest if u do it legit

[tame lodge]

Hardest?

https://tenor.com/view/escanor-gif-10507320087304996260

[tall torrent]

it's def way harder than most other classes' penances lol

psyker's penances compared to veteran's is like coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

[south spindle]

Really still not sold on Vet stealth vs Zealot stealth

[hollow ibex]

Yeah because vet stealth is niche as fuck

And not very good

[south spindle]

I dunno, it just feels kinda out of place aye

I don't dislike it, but its usability for how it seems to want to be used is kinda low

[turbid ibex]

it could def use some major buffs

main things i'd like for it would be longer duration for the damage buff and for the movement speed buff to also linger for the same duration

and also shorter cooldown

[somber axle]

It's more utility focused vs Zealot being damage focused. You can force an objective when the spawn director is deciding to go maximum silly mode, rescue a downed team mate with less risk by underhanding a grenade (doesn't break stealth iirc) and as a repositioning tool if you end up cornered or need to get to medicae and it's high risk

But yeah I prefer Exe Stance for sure and Shout is a lot more generally useful for most people so Infiltrate is a distant third that most only ever look at for the penances

It's not bad you just have better options

[turbid ibex]

tbh zealot's still offers pretty much just as much utility

while also doing a lot more damage on top of a much shorter cooldown

[hybrid pulsar]

Hey guys

Your opinion

What blessings do I dude on the shock maul

And perks and dump stat

[turbid ibex]

check pinned guide

[somber axle]

Yeah Vet stealth is definitely nowhere near as useful as Zealot stealth but the longer duration gives you more leeway

Zealot stealth is only 3 seconds while Vet is 8

[turbid ibex]

zealot has a subnode that makes it 8

[somber axle]

Yeah and Vet arguably saves a point not needing to spend on any of the Infiltrate nodes

I dislike Low Profile outside of On Overwatch penance for newer players because it feels like a Lose More button

If your team is struggling you will make it worse by adding more aggro onto them

[turbid ibex]

doesnt mean much when vet is much more strapped for flex points than zealot

[somber axle]

Yeah I'm not saying that Vet stealth is better, just that Vet stealth is arguably it's weakest option while Zealot stealth is arguably its strongest

It's not a simple comparison

A newer player will probably find the 8 sec duration safer vs the 3 sec duration (+2 with the extra node tax)

But a veteran (hehehe) will be able to make the 3-5 work just as well and the 8 sec ends up feeling like too much time in stealth sometimes

[turbid ibex]

i still think infiltrate needs buffs

[hollow ibex]

Wouldn’t mind it being replaced tbh

[tall torrent]

5

[turbid ibex]

i dont think thats needed

oh right

forgot the description was bugged for a while

[somber axle]

It'd be funny if they gave Infiltrate a big ranged finesse bonus for the first strike but idk if they ever would

[tidal fox]

too similar to zealot imo

[somber axle]

It already gives +30% damage for 5 sec though so

[tidal fox]

that's eh

[somber axle]

It'd feel a little redundant and would still be the weaker option vs Exe Stance

[tidal fox]

maybe they can do something with the supression

[turbid ibex]

just extend the duration of the damage buff and make the move speed buff linger as well

[tidal fox]

supress every enemy that can see you

[turbid ibex]

plus shorter cooldown

[tidal fox]

oh yeah

[turbid ibex]

still shit

[tall torrent]

uptime is horrible unfortunately

[turbid ibex]

5 second duration on a 45 second cooldown

should at the very least be 10s duration with about 30s cooldown

[somber axle]

I feel like they could double it and it still wouldn't compete with Exe Stance having virtually 100% uptime tbh

[turbid ibex]

Infiltrate changes to make it good:
Damage buff lasts 10s
Move speed buff lingers for the same duration as damage buff
Shorten cooldown to like 30s

[tall torrent]

it needs more than that

[somber axle]

Agreed yeah

Tbh I'm not sure what they could do to make it more appealing to Vets because Exe Stance and Shout feel so much more impactful

They already reworked it and just added a bunch of the old nodes to it for free and I still never see any Vets use it

[tall torrent]

better uptime, shorter CD, more effects

[somber axle]

What effects would you add?

Aside from ranged finesse the only other thing I could imagine would be 100% crit. Definitely not both though because then it just feels like ranged Shroudfield

But 5 sec of 100% crit would be funny and at least give it a niche beyond Exe Stance as the dedicated Vet burst CD

[tall torrent]

#veteran-class message

[somber axle]

Plus synergy with Shock Trooper (not that any of the lasguns need anymore ammo efficiency)

I like the hunter's resolve stun immunity and low profile screen effect options for sure

the only concern I'd have is how the stun immunity would interact with Get Back in the Fight

[turbid ibex]

it wouldnt interact with it because nobody uses that talent

[somber axle]

LMFAO fair

I'm just imagining that funny code would mean that if you have GBitF and that version of Hunter's Resolve goes through then if your toughness breaks it immediately drops the duration to 6 sec

Like you pop Infiltrate and after stealth your toughness breaks 2 sec into it your Hunter's Resolve stun immunity drops from the remaining 13 sec to the 6 sec from GBitF

[tall torrent]

wouldn't happen

[somber axle]

do you think fixing the silent poxburster/crusher bug will happen

[south spindle]

These are nice ideas, though personally I would want to be able to commit actions in stealth outside of "oh we can throw a frag"

Like the duration ends when the duration ends, but you can do whatever whilst in that window

[south spindle]

Honestly? No

Audio cues got exponentially less reliable when they first put Auric into the game, ever since its been an uphill struggle for the audio engine to keep up with the volume of specials/elites

[fair shale]

Not without fundamental changes to the game engine or how they "design" encounters

It happens cause the game audio engine struggles with how many enemies there are.

[somber axle]

yeah it does feel like one of those things they'd have fixed by now if they could

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396860171541807105/1232138126441582642/mfw_deadass.gif

at best tweaking sound channel priorities

[tall torrent]

lemme show u a super cursed clip

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/silent-overhead-burster/119178

[somber axle]

I think I saw when you posted that vid for someone else here and yeah that's insanely cursed

[somber axle]

I know it feels like it's a comment out of nowhere and it is but I just had a run get wiped because we were fighting a plogryn and a big group of stacked poxbursters entirely silently walked directly into everyone and we all fell over

we couldn't even see them behind the plogryn it was just instant death for everyone

it was really funny but it was also one of those "wow this game needs help"

it wouldn't be so bad except this event makes the bug feel so much worse LOL

[glacial ferry]

I hope they never fix the sound barrier issues in that specific spot ever. It's just too funny to watch people die right there and react

[tall torrent]

evil appletarts be like

[errant bear]

I doubt

[errant bear]

I would actually probably increase the base cooldown but make people work for shorter one plus make it into a guerilla ability after every elite/special kill I would refresh the stealth for 3 seconds and add 0.5 s to outside of stealth uptime but make this diminished after 15 seconds total (outside of stealth) I would keep the base unchanged tho

[willow rain]

Best vet build, we got exe stance and krak here

Plus I got FT to auto target? Peak gameplay

@agile radish

[agile radish]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=a143e0be-48d4-4f00-a7c6-b0dd321f84a0

wait not this

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a143e0be-48d4-4f00-a7c6-b0dd321f84a0/useable-ilasgun-vet-build1

i like use infantry lasgun build

it bad but

play fun

[willow rain]

Lmfao that is a build indeed, and nothing is bad

You just aren't skilled enough

[agile radish]

raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh

[willow rain]

Ilas is fun

I just prefer recon cuz I'm a slut

Brrt go brr

[agile radish]

yeah Ilasgun finger pain

[errant bear]

Name: Guerilla tactics
Base cooldown: 60 sec

Description: Replenish all Toughness and enter Stealth for 8s, gaining +25% Movement Speed. Leaving Stealth Suppresses nearby Enemies. While in Stealth, and for 5s afterwards, you have +30% Damage. Attacking makes you leave Stealth.

While Guerilla tactics is active, Elite and Specialist kills refresh Stealth by 1s, extend its duration outside of Stealth by 0.5s, and reduce its cooldown by 0.25s. Duration outside of Stealth has diminishing returns after 10s total. Cooldown cannot be reduced below 30s.

[errant bear]

What do you guys think about it?

[dapper pier]

I dont like knife. I dont care enough for taxe
Is there a med-fast weapon that does kinda wide block attacks?

[dry cloak]

Shockmaul

Munitorum one to be exact

[dapper pier]

I havent rolled a maul in ages… all right

[stray ivy]

Not played the game for a hot minute, gunner focused builds still decent?

[willow rain]

H a h, join me in my mauldome

JOIN ME

[dry cloak]

Yes

[stray ivy]

[turbid ibex]

Yes but you shouldnt neglect your melee

Even the most tunnel-visioned helbore sniper builds are at least like 25% melee

[heavy rover]

Helbore builds are peak

[formal ice]

"Gunner"

[heavy rover]

Fair point

Does helbore mk V with weight of fire count as a gunner guild?

[tame lodge]

Very closely to an iLas build so yeah

Lasgunner

[warm gulch]

Secret radio in motion trial

[flat nexus]

Oh interesting

[warm gulch]

Was playing something till I hit it

It said something about hold onto faith and shield your heart

It was during the morrow memory

[flat nexus]

That is unique

[warm gulch]

I contributed

[quartz girder]

oh whar!!

never seen that before

[warm gulch]

Look out for them

[south spindle]

Dude looks like he's just taken a massive hit of something

[warm gulch]

It was sparking lol I just happened to pic it

These might have been here all this time but idk

[tame dragon]

Which version of the hellbore is the best again?

[sudden glen]

I think I’ve finally been able to put into words some thoughts I’ve had differentiating the Male and Female Cadians.

The Male bites, barks, and screams his lines.
The Female more spits, grits, and hisses hers.

They’re both the same level of blistering, searing anger, bitterness, and even self-loathing—it’s just that one lets it out in loud, harsh waves of fury, while the other slips it out like a pressurized hose.

If I’m inclined to read further into things; I wonder if the Male experiences more a sense of catharsis than the Female. Like, does it feel good, to scream like he does? Does he get a sense of release when he’s allowed to unleash? And if he does, what of the Female? Does she have any release for her feelings, or is she stuck in this caustic hyperfocused state?

The Male will make me want to pound my chest and pick a fight, but the Female will often send shivers down my spine.

I worry about them both. 😭

[sudden glen]

I don’t have much experience—yet. Waiting for the Krieg cosmetics to roll back around—but I remember preferring the green version to the blue or brown. More balanced.

Then again, the Helbore isn’t exactly built for balance. It strikes me as a Elite / Specialist eliminator, its charged shots better suited to picking targets and sniping important heads than clearing hordes. So maybe go with the brown.

[tall torrent]

all 3 are ok

[thorny egret]

As someone who has two Cadian vets, one male one female, both Cutthroat, honestly I'd say that the Female Cadian is more accepting of her situation than the male. Male is absolutely closer to his breaking point. There's so much more viciousness and unfettered hatred in Male's tone and it screams of someone who has been tortured inside out to the point that all they know how to do to any kind of contact is lash out at it. Female Cutthroat is still a professional, still a fighter, still a soldier. Male Cutthroat is a wounded dog wearing a soldier's mask.

[somber axle]

IV for the satisfying Crusher 2 shot, V if you want an iLas that can hit anything, IIIa if you want something faster than the IV but with easier breakpoints than the V

IV has the awkward bayonet swing, V and IIIa have the fun bayonet stab that can be a fun bayonet charge if you hold and sprint

They're all fun but lately I'm leaning on the IV more often for the current event

It's personal preference so it depends on how much you hate the bayonet swing vs how fast you want your Helbore to fire

[hollow ibex]

I think you mixed up IV and V

V is the fast one

[sonic kayak]

[somber axle]

Oh yeah you're right

I'll edit

Personal fav is the V for how fast it feels firing charged shots with Weight of Fire. You arguably don't need Weight of Fire on the V but it feels so smooth with it

IV is just more useful for me with the Rumbling Giants event going on

Nice for sniping a few Crushers as they approach

[hollow ibex]

V enjoyers

https://tenor.com/view/draco-malfoy-harry-potter-mewing-mew-slytherin-gif-8263298459687914233

[lofty abyss]

Where's the best place to do the long shot grenade penance

[sudden glen]

The Male definitely feels like he’s been wringing himself inside out over his loss—be it Cadia, be it a million other things—for far, far too long. Probably suffers from stomach ulcers.

The Female though—she does seem more, in-control of herself, but at the same time I don’t think she’s able to “switch off” anymore. In the crucible of Cadia, she turned into something vicious, deadly, viper-like, but I fear she’s spent so long in that hunter-state she’s lost the ability to be any other way.

Or perhaps it’s even worse; perhaps she’s fully capable of switching off, but won’t let herself. It’s not her default state, but is instead something she has to put on and keep on and never drop, lest she fail again.

I think both Cadians take Cadia personally—if you listen to some voicelines, it can be interpreted both were on Cadia when it went down—both they’ve turned their hurt inwards and outwards, respectively.

[hollow ibex]

Hab Dreyko

[lofty abyss]

Ty

[torpid sundial]

600+ hours into the game and finally getting around to using the rashad on a melee vet with weap spec

I love the weap

Def will use it more

Not the highest ttk on crushers but holy shit bosses fall on their knees

And ig brutal momentum carrying the waveclear

What even is the aoe combo, pattack > 4 lights?

[hollow ibex]

horde clear: LLLLLLL
rager clear: PA
single target: HHHHH

high skill gameplay 🙂‍↕️

[hybrid plover]

Truly one of the most one note weapons of All Time

[fair shale]

I'd rather have my fingers pulled off digit by digit than have to use Rashad ngl

[hybrid plover]

It's got no finesse. No style. No grace.

It doesn't even have a funny face.

[dapper pier]

What is the mission that has the power generator/ tesla coil room

[hybrid plover]

erm

Rolling Steel?

There's

Honestly a few maps where that criteria fits

[void dragon]

do you remember the objetive of the mission?

[dapper pier]

Ok so
Details
You enter from a corner of the map
Immediately from that corner in the center to the wall is a raised platform with a console you interact with at least once or twice.
Once the zone objective is down, scaffolding directly opposite of the platform (more to the right) opens up to exit through. I think its two doors, they lead down and to the right.
Between the platformed console and the scaffolding exit, are 10-12 electrical nodes with HEAVY lightning vfx

[austere mica]

Gloriana

[dapper pier]

I mustve been burstered off at the first 3 mins as usual to not remember that

[void dragon]

ah the power distributor nexus event

technically speraking you need to interact with the console once IF your team manage the failing nodes correctly and fast

its quite hard but i had teams that manage that event SUPER fast because they did it all in one go

[dapper pier]

I had some bad frames during the mission, and it was infinitely more noticeable when we got to the power nexus

[torpid sundial]

I love high skill gameplay

Idk it clicks with me after using it for a couple games

Ive tried basically ever other weap on melee vet already

Shock maul’s surprisingly decent

You can electrocute anything by just using special on them for a bit under half a second then dodging to cancel it followed by heavies to kill them with the improved dps

Crusher is kinda ew

Chain axe I find pretty okay

My fav is still pow falchion

[deft crystal]

I need the right blessings and refinements for DB vet

[tall torrent]

check pinned guide

[potent patio]

vets is it worth trying to make a sniper autogun build to deal with the new event or is its rending not up to snuff

[tall torrent]

this event is made specifically to sell hive scum DLC

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-warhammer-warhammer40k-truthnuke-truth-nuke-gif-1489307707648900771

[potent patio]

is it? did they not nerf the chem damage or is there something im missing

[hollow ibex]

hiv has pretty much only been buffed since release

[tall torrent]

This event spawns loads of Ogryns that drop grenades on death which deal high damage to u

And poxburster waves

And killing those Ogryns have chance to refill ur blitz

So basically way more rockets for hive scum

[potent patio]

Yea i know ive been playing, but ive been mostly keeping to ogrynheimer and boltgun+krakspam vet builds which seem to do a better job of consistenly deleting ogryns rather than blitz reliance

[tall torrent]

those also work

rumbler is super op

[potent patio]

quite fun, but im asking if theres a autogun that can do similar carapace damage to the bolter cause honestly getting a little bored of it

[tall torrent]

Vraks 5 with onslaught talent

Not rly worth the ammo sink tho

[dapper pier]

Idk guys im just using the event as an excuse to get specials penances 👀

[drifting timber]

when putting together a support vet, is comp urge even worth the node? the 2.5% just seems like its not worth it or am I not understanding it right?

The main nodes i'm pairing are exil takedown, confirmed kill, covering fire, born leader and all 4 focus leader. its more of a back line play style and sometimes i like to change up my play style

[tall torrent]

Not worth

[drifting timber]

just did test run with it

2k kills proc'd under a dozen times

'maybe 5% an a full 10 secs maybe would be worth? but i'm not the kind of player who is one to speculate deeper aspects besides "thats fun" ty

[toxic reef]

seeing as it competes with +25 toughness on the way to bring it down

you'd be actively wasting a point

[sudden glen]

Hey, any tips for completing Veteran’s Smoke Grenade Penance? I’d really like to switch back to my Kraks, please. ;w;

[toxic reef]

aim far

open maps, like end of consignment yard

[sudden glen]

Will do. Thank you!

[unreal nova]

Bridges also can help.

The LONG ones anyway.

[sudden glen]

What does it mean to “engulf enemies in smoke”? Does it just mean how many enemies run through a cloud, or is smoke like an effect that applies to and suppresses ranged enemies?

[unreal nova]

Smoke penance? Just spam it on every horde.

[night marten]

Morits trials throw em into hordes, complete it within the first few waves.

[flint iris]

hellbore lasgun is slow and it doesnt even kill in one hit wah wah wah wah

i dont wanna hear it

[tame lodge]

If your helby isn't 1 shotting

It's laced

https://tenor.com/view/this-shit-laced-laced-hulk-green-monster-shit-gif-11770717343618769494

[flint iris]

your daily reminder that this mark aint got no fookin' skins neither

[frank basin]

Weapon customization for yourself (is limited as remade)

[south spindle]

Wait its back?

[frank basin]

Yeah is remade but limited

Only discord file

[south spindle]

dope

[frank basin]

Is not on nexus atm

[south spindle]

Nah, i can always rejoin the modding discord an get it

[fickle narwhal]

Is it normal that playing as a specialist I have the feeling that practically everyone plays a build mainly oriented to the management of hordes to melee? Why as fast as I die the game goes to shit because of the distant gunners and the bombers, is that the veteran is the only one minimally specialized in killing distant enemies?

[south spindle]

That my friend is what is commonly referred to as "sod's law"

[spark helm]

People aren't always thinking about it and most tend towards just barreling in and killing whatever. Veteran isn't the only one that can play at range but it can do so well without completely suffering in melee for it.

Not that other classes suffer for swapping to melee often. Melee is just a massive part of the game. Even a ranged focused build is probably going to be involving some kind of melee.

[steep flower]

That means you were majority of the job you were doing & others were either too slow or ineffective or dogshit; its usually dogshit

[rocky vine]

Has these blessings always existed for shovel? Why have I not known abou this for so long

[tame lodge]

Idk why you didn't know

And yes these blessings have been around for so long

That when you realize that shovel is so mid you just can't believe it

[rocky vine]

with those 2 blessing it is mid???????? 80% damage debuff with 100% armor pen?????? HOOWWWW??

[tame lodge]

Yeah it's unbelievable isn't it?

Says a lot about shovel

💀

[rocky vine]

so ogryn shovel isn't the only thing suffering

[tame lodge]

Which is crazy because the shovels have great blessings and even the ability to deal good single target damage

For example
Vet shovel mk1

Special into push attack

The push attack has great damage
The special stagger and apply one stack of Skullcrusher
The push applies the other stack

So you have a push attack with an extra 80% added on top

Truly one of the weapons

But in reality people play it for the bonk

https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207

[rocky vine]

uncanny is really nice for bleed grenades

[tame lodge]

Oh you can also run decimator for better horde clearing

[rocky vine]

even with the bleed on melee talent that is nice

just spam swing and armored enemies go down or something

well they did nerf bleed

because of grenades

nerfing bleed damage screwed ogryn