veteran-class

[tall torrent]

Vig is close to a 5:5, it’s not rly a backline sniping type gun

I think it’s the most versatile gun in vet’s arsenal atm cuz u can actually shoot at everything with it and it still one bursts priority targets ez

[narrow frost]

I should try it on a melee build, see how I like it

[tall torrent]

Helbore maybe closer to a 7:3 if you backline a lot and ur team actually frontlines for u

[narrow frost]

I only take it when I feel like sniping

[dry cloak]

Helbore is best paired with taunt ogryn friend

[silver patrol]

Best paired with 3 desperado scums actually

[hearty snow]

is there some kind of lmg build for the recon lasgun

[steep flower]

Everything is better when taunt plays the game for you

[dry cloak]

One doesnt contradict the other

[dry cloak]

Any recon las build you gonna use mate is ,,lmg,, build

[hearty snow]

oh lol

yeuh i just realized that when i swapped my helbore for recon lasgun

[tame lodge]

It's just focus target or weapon specialist

[hexed arch]

weapon specialist is really amazing

[serene pawn]

What is the best gas mask in the game

[tame lodge]

Poster Boy's or the dirt one

[steel veldt]

Why does my recon lasgun do no damage

a few weeks ago it dealt all the damage

[runic estuary]

Hi everyone

My name is lamball^^

And I have one thing to ask of you guys

[silver patrol]

deez

[runic estuary]

pulls out gun hands up stinky

[vagrant dagger]

ever heard of ogryn humor buddy

[lunar maple]

Chainsword makes me feel like doom guy

[runic estuary]

Yes^^

[lunar maple]

Rip and tear

[runic estuary]

offers a rock and nosh cheers?

[serene pawn]

Wht do you have a cult

[runic estuary]

Yes^^

I am the leader of chaos undivided >:D

[serene pawn]

Cool

[vagrant dagger]

i think that might be heresy
not sure, need to consult the primer

[runic estuary]

Well technically I’m not from your universe

Plus there’s also a game based off of me^^

[steel veldt]

is it cuz I am using the fastest mark

[slate karma]

Archaeon the ever chosen is that you?

[runic estuary]

No

Just me

Lamball

[tame lodge]

It never dealt damage

It's all in your mind

[steel veldt]

huh

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotize-gif-18017563854157472082

(you were probably running Onslaught)

[steel veldt]

I got infernus and dumdum

[tame lodge]

Onslaught, the talent

Bottom right

[steel veldt]

ah

[tame lodge]

We don't recommend it
But it's a popular pick among recon users

[steel veldt]

got it

[steep flower]

Dirt one? Which is?

[tame lodge]

Don't remember the name but it's this one

It's the dirty version-ish of Poster Boy

[steel veldt]

Also scoreboard STILL NOT WORKING

[steep flower]

Ye that one fits with soo many other pieces

[steep flower]

That one 2
The mask itself cosmetic is also pog

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/peak-panda-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-1206829322030625047

[serene pawn]

Do you guys vermiaid to?

[clever crest]

What

[serene pawn]

Darktide but with rats

[clever crest]

Vermintide?

[serene pawn]

Yah

I am not good with names

[unreal nova]

Because shooting crushers with an entire clip is better than trying to hit it in melee.

[rough stream]

why tho ?

[unreal nova]

Because it's a terrible idea to shoot crushers.

[hexed arch]

i wanna take off either serrated blade or trench fighter drill are they both necessary for auric and havoc?

[unreal nova]

And the increase in damage for maulers and plasma is minor.

[unreal nova]

Serrated already is weapon dependent in the first place.

[hexed arch]

shovel

[unreal nova]

Then might be worth keeping for uncanny interaction to clear faster.

[rough stream]

yeah but it‘s still a buff against everything else no ?

[unreal nova]

Too small to be worth it.

[rough stream]

fair

[unreal nova]

When I said it, I meant it sarcastically. Mostly cos ppl are too scared to just melee.

Onslaught memes are malice diff things.

You use WAY too much ammo per kill otherwise.

On top of 1 clip per crusher means you run out after a pack.

Because they do get ridiculously tanky.

[slender elm]

Game decided to throw like 20 ragers at me

Scab ragers

I happened to be carrying kraks

Lul

[hexed arch]

is born leader worth it?

screw it i got rid of it

[unreal nova]

Yes and no. It can help a meh team survive if you can kill, but not so useful for an actually good team. A bad team basically just dies anyway, though you would slow their deaths.

Is more worth in havoc where you need to ensure everyone stays topped because 1 death can lead to a wipe.

[slender elm]

I dont understand the part that says sprint cancel after l3 on rashad

What am I supposed to cancel

[silver patrol]

the l3

bros need to play more fighting games

[unreal nova]

The backswing.

[silver patrol]

you are cancelling the l3 with a dash to reset the combo/reduce the recovery

[unreal nova]

Also to reset combo.

[silver patrol]

you can also block

[slender elm]

Yeah I'm not really seeing a long recovery

Which is derp

Also I play doto, I know what it does

[silver patrol]

you play what

[slender elm]

Doto, dota

[agile yew]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/510?tab=description

You guys got experience with this mod and say, the powersword?

To charge it up and then do optimal horde swinging combo with 1 press of a keybind

[silver patrol]

tell it to do special and your combo

you can set the keybind

i dunno the optimal combo, what is it

[unreal nova]

It's also to reset the combo so you can do it again.

[delicate shell]

Guys I am on trust level 2 but it doesn't allow me to equip the combat axe

[silver patrol]

bigly if truly

[clever crest]

Go apeshit

Murder the quartermaster

[pulsar horizon]

Why is swap speed so present in veteran builds?

[silver patrol]

because he needs to swap weapons fast

[clever crest]

Veteran uses both for most fights

And will often have to switch in a pitch

Like oh there's a crusher and a horde, pull out the plasma rifle and quickly take out the sword

[tepid otter]

Plasma Pistol when

[clever crest]

When the cosmetics shop becomes good

[delicate shell]

Ok

[unreal nova]

Also, swap speed affects grenade pull out time as well.

Because it's TECHNICALLY another weapon.

[craggy lake]

you learn something new everyday

[tame lodge]

When they successfully balance plasma gun

(never happening)

[rough stream]

actually what is good with onslaught then ?

[unreal nova]

Technically fast shooting guns and maybe fast melees. Problem is, fast melees aren't fast enough unless you are shiv scum running memes... and you really shouldn't be shooting cara armoured stuff anyway with automatics.

[steep flower]

Recon las & infantry autos & bruhautos & shredder
Basically any fast firing bullet hoses

[tepid otter]

what about the brautos

[steep flower]

You can shoot & thats the point of it; its more of a debuffing tool now than killing one before (cause HP got buffed)

[unreal nova]

Yeah, but pulling out powersword or stabbing with like dueling is cheaper than spraying before stabbing.

[steep flower]

Ofc; but if you don’t use those weapons or can’t risk getting close or enemy advances on you you can prep them for quicker kill

[unreal nova]

I suppose, still feels meh since it requires too much ammo to do it's thing.

[lost frigate]

can vet stealth while holding power cell?

[dry cloak]

Yes

But you will drop the cell

[lost frigate]

so can i pick it up again and keep stealth walking to obj

[dry cloak]

Yes

[agile yew]

Yeah i think it could use still some buffs, cant oneshot crushers

First time using it in 2 years, forgot how the heat rising VFX turns everything into pixelated mess, i wonder if there is graphical setting i could tweak to make it go away or mod to get rid of it

Power Sword feels awkward to use, half the time i press Q to energise and start swinging and it had no time to get the effect

Gotta look into that mod that autochains combos into one button for it

So can do the Energise+L1+L2+L3+H for hordes and Pushattack and forgot what followed for single target

[loud kiln]

Trying a new thing

Gonna try to make lasgun work

[calm shard]

not that hard to be honest

lasgun isn't bad it's just directly outclassed

[agile yew]

Someday ill actually try the laser things, as RPing thing, in non-havoc setting just for the vibe

Recon and Hellbore are actually decent from what ive understood

And las pistol too

[teal canyon]

Tunnel syndrome Speedrun gun, yes

The reason I dropped veteran for a zealot at the time

[calm shard]

helbore is extremely good

[buoyant tulip]

I love jumping guys

[dry cloak]

And they come with different flavours

[bleak kettle]

what should i run on curios got 2 toughness 1 hp with toughness/Ability/Gunner but i don't think i need gunner should i try more HP ?

[hollow ibex]

1 stam hp toughness is the typical

Take three gunner resist if you need it

[bleak kettle]

why unarmored and infected on shovel is it outdated in pinned msg ?

[turbid ibex]

which msg

[turbid ibex]

#veteran-class message use this guide instead

[hollow ibex]

Scrolling down to 2023

[faint beacon]

Carayielding is the shovel combo

Mainly cause Uncanny is your damage against flak

And maniac technically

[bleak kettle]

sniper build is good for havoc's i assume ?

with tactical axe + helbore using stance ult

[faint beacon]

Yeah it’s good

Marksmen Focus or Focus Target keystone depending if you want to support the team or more focus on dropping priority targets

[tall torrent]

I didn’t make it specifically for havoc

Backline role is dependent on your frontliners doing really well to cover for you

It’s not that self sufficient

[quick shell]

Helbore is like top 3 guns in the game

[agile yew]

Gotta try it out then

[quick shell]

Personally don’t really like the gun a ton

But it does a lot of fucking damage

[bleak kettle]

if someone is frontlining using hamdolsun's ogryn frontliner might be worth trying

i'll try the bomber stealth one with power sword and quick revolver i'll take of swap speed maybe

[ancient path]

helbores are extremely ammo efficient. its why i enjoy them a lot.

basically letting the squad have all ammo boxes

[dry cloak]

Helbores are only ammo efficient if you use shocktrooper

Otherwise they eat ammo

[agile yew]

Late 2023 when played my vet, they were mostly for RP and challenge

[dry cloak]

Because sights where noy existent

[ancient path]

why wouldnt you run shock trooper with them?

[dry cloak]

Thats the thing

Yoy always run shoctrooper with them

[clear lantern]

360 no-scoping with my Helbore because I don't have a choice

every shot is a no-scope

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-kill-cod-montage-sniping-montage-sniper-gif-7453980808548041523

[fair shale]

I can hear the song

[faint beacon]

Gif isn’t even playing and I can hear it

I just see the still image of a quick scope

[scenic lance]

accatran mkxii or mkxiv

[dry cloak]

6c

Piss laser looks fun but is not

And mk14 hits hard

[clear lantern]

🎶 BURY ME! BURY ME! I AM FINISHED WITH YOU~~~~ 🎶

[calm shard]

not really the point

Mk 14 has cleave

[prime wyvern]

THE PLANETS DYING
D:
THE GOVERNMENT HATES US
D: ??
THE ANIMALS ARE LEAVING
where???

BREAK ME DOOOOOOOOOOOWN

[tame lodge]

Atoma is dying
The Arbites hate us
The heretics are leaving
The aliens are contacting us
We are not alone
It might be just me and another 3 rejects
But that's ok
Do you really need anyone else?

[in church choir]

COOOOOOME
BREAK
ME
DOOOOOWN

[fervent quest]

-t. invaderzola

[dry cloak]

Usually one comes with other

[orchid hemlock]

BURY ME BURY ME

[signal juniper]

anyone have a special/boss busting build? asking for a friend who wants to optimize for specials and monstrosities

[frigid egret]

Do you guys keep voice of command for emergencies with max toughness increase or do you spam it as often as possible before every tough engagement so the whole team benefits from it

because I feel like I should probably use it more

[ancient path]

i paid for the whole class

i hit my buttons

[loud kiln]

I came up with this, any suggestions?

[tall torrent]

go shock trooper for recon

[molten hound]

Is marksman's focus IAG any good now

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-gif-18932176

[tough nova]

Thats good memeing

[loud kiln]

Realized the video i sent was to show off to a friend of mine instead of the short version ☠️

Anyway, is replacing infernous with dum dum a good option?

Or should i keep the gun as is?

[tall torrent]

swap headhunter for dum dum

[loud kiln]

Cool

Would marksman's focus be a better choice to? Cause I've been told, since I'm primarily using reconlas, that marksman might be better over weapon specialist

[hollow ibex]

Recon las has like no finesse so there’s very little synergy with MMF

MMF is for weapons with good finesse

Which is def not recon las

[loud kiln]

What's finesse do again?

[hollow ibex]

Crit and weakspot damage multiplier

[loud kiln]

Oh yeah

Duelling sword is nice to go with recon las for crusher damage

Iirc it has thrust and uncanny

[abstract wren]

What Mark is the best for the Recon Lasgun?
XIV, XII, or XIc?

[loud kiln]

I'm using blue, brown is good to i think

[abstract wren]

I like the blue one too

[hollow ibex]

Here you go

[abstract wren]

Much appreciated!

[lean rune]

should i get this from melk?

[unreal nova]

If it were between mobility and def, sure, but losing damage is always bad.

[lean rune]

thats what i thought but i didnt think 3% would matter that much

[unreal nova]

It likely wouldn't, but may cause an extra hit required sooner or later with how the devs keep powercreeping the game.

I guess is okay if you want something to lvl mastery with.

[orchid hemlock]

Get both

[orchid hemlock]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c9abbca-ad8e-424c-8780-11409eba0097/funny-laser-pointer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[flint iris]

https://streamable.com/k1erw3

friend showed me this whose barely played the game

my jaw dropped

[gentle lake]

yeeeep

[flint iris]

had no idea about that shortcut back up

[slender elm]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

But really, any sucker who downs before ledges should just die

[mystic pilot]

tactical axe is very nice, its attacck speed is so comfortable

[slender elm]

Indeed

[flint iris]

I like tac axe i just wish it wasnt a crime to heavy swing with it

Id like to just use it like a combat axe

And dont go "You heavy swing with combat axe!? Wtf"

You'll hurt my feelings

[narrow frost]

Why don't you use heavy attack on taxe?

[tame lodge]

Why are you using shitactical axe

[mystic pilot]

its very good at horde clear for me and isn't the overused shovel

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[tame lodge]

Who up me

https://tenor.com/view/song-and-gif-27434243

[hallow drift]

When the balance is so karked that people go from complaining about psword and Rashad being braindead to complaining that mk1 shovel is too fun

[hybrid plover]

"overused"

[hallow drift]

Foldies can 1 shot crushers tho

Not sure which one I just saw a video posted a while back

[hollow ibex]

prob a meme setup

[hybrid plover]

mk3 i believe

[hollow ibex]

but 2-shot is very easy

[hybrid plover]

even though it's kinda impractical

cuz i'm sure that requires thrust

[hallow drift]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1461538383535804477/what.webm?ex=69796bb0&is=69781a30&hm=eb5069e68c345c2f4c90d30dbdacd045ccf0a7e601c5d631826451633f07dde0&

Dis one (not mine)

Definitely has thrust, I think you can see the icon but I’m on mobile so zooming is kinda funky

[narrow frost]

thrust + Ft + agile + skirmisher

[hybrid plover]

shrimpsher

[narrow frost]

https://tenor.com/view/simple-shrimple-shrimple-meme-its-really-that-shrimple-shrimple-gif-gif-26259870

[hallow drift]

Mk1 shovel is one of the few weapons where the entire moveset is used rather than just “PA, Heavy, Light Attack (X) times” so I give it credit for being able to compete with the others

The special into PA double overhead combo is really neat

All the shovels get the frying pan sound on heavy and that’s just peak

[hollow ibex]

mk1 shovel's moveset is pretty basic bitch wdym 🤔

[hallow drift]

Heavies to get Uncan/Deci stacks like instantly, assorted lights to deal with the leftover chaff, and the combo listed above for anything heavy

[tame lodge]

• crit

[hallow drift]

Most of the weapons I normally use are like:

Mk2 Relic moveset “PA Heavy Heavy Light”

Evi Mk3 moveset “PA Heavy light light light”

Arby Mk6 shield “PA Heavy light”

Scum shivs “Light spam and just heavy anything scary”

[junior grail]

Both marks of shivs?

[hallow drift]

I don’t use the Mk3’s

I prefer the Mk1 but both kinda play like a taxe

[hollow ibex]

mk3 is technically PA H for single target

[hallow drift]

Fair enough yeah, that’s how Mk3 gets the stab I think right?

[molten hound]

Anyone got a fun weapon spec revolver build

[hallow drift]

Mk1 shivs have the same effect as Mk6 FGS where your heavies are just “overhead, stab, overhead, stab” which is really handy imo

[unreal nova]

But slower lights if you just wanna brain dead lower diffs.

[hallow drift]

Could never get into the PA heavy heavy light for MkX relic stabs either

[unreal nova]

With tox.

[hallow drift]

I typically use the shivs as my mobility tool on gunscum

I take battering strikes to help with cleave

[unreal nova]

I run tacaxe then for funny.

[hallow drift]

Respect

Ive been rocking DB (triple barrel) + Shivs

Is it as powerful as DAP? No, but other people get to play the video game without me having to intentionally gimp myself

[unreal nova]

Or combat axe if I just want to bromentum PA hordes.

[unreal nova]

I run vraks.

[hallow drift]

I tried combat axe back on Arby but haven’t tried on Scum yet

I was digging the HS back during the launch week

[unreal nova]

Terrible as sidearm, probably OP on a proper melee build.

[hallow drift]

Rampage + attack speed stim prolly turns it into the Ultima Taxe

[unreal nova]

Yeah.

[hallow drift]

If HS is anything to go by since rampage basically made most garbage one shot with lights

[unreal nova]

That atk spd with more stam and blu stim is funny already.

Cos I run blu yellow on my gunzerker.

[hallow drift]

I take rending + CD stim to get back into cannoneer stance quicker.

Triple barrel firing to the beat of the trenches OST is so hot

Reminds me of combat axe heavies on the assassin bosses syncing with disposal unit

[unreal nova]

Shoot hilariously fast, melee extra fast as well.

[faint beacon]

@tall torrent Chainsword could break rager combos right?

but its more like Falch where you have to go further into a combo to actually do it

Reason I ask is im doing the mental Gymnastics of trying to figure out how I can safely go through with it by abusing Uninterruptable with EStance

[tall torrent]

mk4 push atk, all heavy strikedown

[tall torrent]

wouldn't call stance abusing uninterruptible tbh

[hallow drift]

I thought I saw once that Mk13g stun them out with the heavies too. Still true?

[tall torrent]

"all heavy strikedown"

[hallow drift]

Gotcha gotcha, ty

[slender elm]

Man stamina management is rough

[hollow ibex]

hey vet stam is already so much better than it used to be

[slender elm]

I'm running ads stam cost so I'm kinda fucked

[hallow drift]

There’s def a bit of an adjustment period to Deadshot. Lots of times I’ve found myself quick swapping just to instantly get guard broken

[tall torrent]

Don’t use it then, it’s not worth it most of the time

[slender elm]

But muh ilas breakpoints 🤪

Tbh idk if build is decent

Ugh bad screenshot

[tall torrent]

those guns are just 2+ headshots to kill most priority enemies

[tall torrent]

missing both +25 toughnes nodes

[hollow ibex]

shrimply don't get hit

[slender elm]

Guess I try not taking tunnel vision deadshot

[steep flower]

No field Improv Yikes

[sudden cedar]

@steep flower Field Improv does not do anything, remember?

[steep flower]

Yeah i forgot; true fr fr

[blazing jetty]

my honest reaction to reaching into an ammo crate to restock my grenades, only to find out that our vet skipped field improv:

[sudden cedar]

Very true.

Hive Scum with Rockets when the Veteran does not have Field Improv

https://tenor.com/qNcdd3aQVsU.gif

A field improv ammo crate, that is potentially 12 rockets.

[dry cloak]

16

[steep flower]

If you play auric & below

[steep flower]

8 rockets per crate on havoc 40

Cause each dip gives 2

[stark holly]

what FOV settings do you guys play with? do you just completely max it out in the settings?

[vale ledge]

My fellow veterans, is this drip?

[stark holly]

im playing on a 27inch 1440p monitor. I normally play with maxed out fov to be able to see more enemies, but im wondering if its worth the trade off to reduce fov a bit to get easier headshots

[sudden cedar]

@steep flower True

@stark holly Try it out?

[steep flower]

How would that make headshots better?
Just increase it to max - better vision is key

[willow rain]

I like running krak on a full nade build with stealth

Stealth yeet the krak my children

[unreal nova]

People never saw how busted it can be. Or they expect someone else to have it. Is same for any aura or team help nodes.

[slender elm]

i lel

[slender elm]

what the fuck there was a visor for this helmet

fucking scam

[pseudo fiber]

Thing is there wasn't

Until... 50 minutes ago

[slender elm]

yeah exactly

what the fuck

[unreal nova]

Time to complain. Could be a fix, but if it wasn't in any pictures, grounds for misadvertising.

[pseudo fiber]

Isn't this the one for ordo dockets lmfao

[slender elm]

no you buy it for money

oh wait it is dockets

[pseudo fiber]

They all are the same colour

We're getting more cadian stuff

Yay

[unreal nova]

Oh, then you might just have to deal with it unless too many ppl hate it and demand alt versions.

[slender elm]

the currency confuses me

[pseudo fiber]

Ordo is the one you get from missions

Aquilas is the one you pay for

Melk bucks (or mobian ingots as I learned they're called) are melkbucks

[unreal nova]

Melkbux.

[slender elm]

annoyed

the other variant without the visor is the fucking "for the emperor 3" penance

and i dont have long bomb

ajskdhsjkdfhsdkjf

or the goddamn desert camo

angery

[pseudo fiber]

Longbomb ain't too bad

[slender elm]

it requires specific circumstances that i cant be bothered to find

because too busy murdering heretics etc

[unreal nova]

Silo bridge for lift.

[slender elm]

uh

what lift?

[unreal nova]

I think it's Silo. Looks like one of the maps that look like it.

There is a hold out at the lift on one end of the bridge. Stand at the opening and spam all 'nades across.

Use the first two to judge distance.

[slender elm]

torrent bridge with the elevator?

[tame granite]

yeah

[slender elm]

hmmmmm

will try that

[tame granite]

that one or you can do it at the start of the transit hub assassination

pretty much you just want a bridge with a lot of open air above it

[unreal nova]

Train can also work, but very niche.

You drop off, aim up to the raised platform and pray for 5 enemies.

I got it there.

Take lethal prox AND tinkerer.

[slender elm]

oh lethal prox

means bistol

[unreal nova]

Bigger means more things hit.

Which means, easier to get 5.

And also, if you mistime, the boom radius is big enough to clip stuff.

[wispy sorrel]

Hmmm...

[zenith sandal]

Seen this online in a few places circulating

Have we had any confirmation yet if the change to this helmet is intended? I’ve seen in a couple places they’ve made the change undocumented

[pseudo fiber]

It probably isn't

This is intended

They might not fix it tho

[zenith sandal]

Did think it was a bit weird since it’s clearly just been pulled from the zealot helmet with the visor in the image I sent

I can see them fixing it, they’ll unironically make a fortune charging for a visor on helmets

[pseudo fiber]

Well this helmet probably goes with this

Which seems to have gotten a small update

Maybe

It's been so long

[noble epoch]

Peak

Oh

That’s a paid helmet

Still

I need it

Is it in rotation rn?

[pseudo fiber]

That's free

That's ordo

This is the paid one

It sint out yet

Maybe Thursday

[silver patrol]

Is the uhh

Difference just the color

[pseudo fiber]

And the visor

And the fact the free one probably isn't intended lol

But who knows

[noble epoch]

They finally gave it a visor?

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-i-used-to-pray-meek-mill-dreams-and-nightmares-dreams-and-nightmares-michael-jordan-gif-4600240804856944817

[pseudo fiber]

Again it may not be intended

But for now it does yes

[noble epoch]

I’ve been begging for one forever

[slate karma]

Can we have the same backpack as the traitor gunners?

[noble epoch]

Does the black one also have one?

[slate karma]

🙏🏻

[pseudo fiber]

No just that one

The sand and black one are visorless

[noble epoch]

Ah so it’s a bug

Shit

Still gonna use it

[pseudo fiber]

They will probably keep it with some pushbacj

They'll relent I think

And if yoy want an orange visor it'll be available for... gonna go with 900 aquilas

[noble epoch]

Im nuking Sweden if they don’t

[grand perch]

No don't they have meatballs

[clever crest]

Oh shit there's new items in rotation??

[pseudo fiber]

Nah just from the hotfix today

[clever crest]

Awh

[tall torrent]

dodge linger reverted lets gooooo

[pseudo fiber]

And a real helmet

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-blessing-blessed-bless-gif-25991585

[tall torrent]

HUH

this added today??

[pseudo fiber]

Ye

[tame lodge]

They unpowercrept ogryn dodges
You love to see it

[pseudo fiber]

Thats kinda jt tho

[tall torrent]

peak

imma buy it when it's out

[trim badger]

Time to see how much worse I got

(I kinda dodgeslide spam already even during the bug but still)

[sudden cedar]

I forsee a lot of people getting blasted by ranged fire.

[turbid ibex]

Wheres the patch notes

[tame lodge]

I ate it

https://tenor.com/view/denji-chainsaw-man-csm-anime-tongue-out-gif-2431750407514080700

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-1-10-4-patch-notes/118146

[serene pawn]

What cosmetic makes the veteran to look like a knight

[sudden cedar]

A night..?... A knight?

There is the Vostroyan Set, that could be something to your liking.

[serene pawn]

Yes knight

[serene pawn]

Look like a guy from the soviet union

[wispy sorrel]

tbh Vostroyans look more like Tsarist Russians

[sudden cedar]

As far as iam aware, that is indeed the intention and i see it the same way.

@serene pawn There is also that set collection with Inquisitorial Acolytes from Crucis, i don't exaclty know the name of the set for the Veteran tho. It features a nice set of armour with a grenade belt, pouches, shoulder pads and part-chain mail legs.

[pseudo fiber]

Zealots are more your Knights

Even got a greatsword

[sudden cedar]

That is true, but he specificially asked for it.

[serene pawn]

Ok tks

[wispy sorrel]

Yeah, there's some straight up medieval plate armour on Zealot

[sudden cedar]

@serene pawn

Is that the sort of thing you're looking for?

[serene pawn]

Mmm look like a knight

[agile yew]

Thats pretty sweet set

[serene pawn]

Yes

Is ther any helmet

[agile yew]

I just wish they wouldnt put those candles on everyones shoulders

[sudden cedar]

I agree with the candles, it would be nice to have the option, but since this Collection for the 4 base classes is called Templum Officiates and they are from Holy Crucis, it is understandable.

[wispy sorrel]

best I can suggest would be this helmet.

[serene pawn]

Look nice but is more of a german look

[serene pawn]

Is this your caracter

[wispy sorrel]

yes

[serene pawn]

Looks ameizing with the helmet

[wispy sorrel]

It does have the chain mail hood inside though for that medieval look

[serene pawn]

How can I post photos whith my caracter

[wispy sorrel]

I just took a screen shot and cropped it in paint

from the cosmetics tab

I usually wear that helmet on my support/shout build

[agile yew]

Is your veteran's name Lemmy?

[wispy sorrel]

Whitlock

[agile yew]

https://tenor.com/view/lemmy-motorhead-guitar-shredding-bass-gif-4886419

[wispy sorrel]

Also really like the Armageddon uniform. That's mostly from reading about Trooer, later captain Andrej Valatok in Helsreach 🙂

[elder briar]

they upgraded the helmet from commissary

hopefully not an accident and gets reverted

[wispy sorrel]

that's nice, although it looks a little buggy there

the visor's clipping through the upper part of the helmet

[elder briar]

yep

[wispy sorrel]

There always was a version of that helm with a visor, but only for Zealot for some reason

[agile yew]

Im too poor to even buy the commissary cosmetics 😭

Well, helmet i can maybe get, but not the whole set

[wispy sorrel]

I know because I got it for my Zealot's flamer build

[elder briar]

heres the other version no clipping

[elder briar]

leather texture looks good on this one

[wispy sorrel]

nice to see them finally add the visor to those other helms they were always MEANT to have visors

There's one uniform I'd still like to see in the Commodor's shop

The Mordian Iron Guard

Yes, they're corpo goons, but they're the best trained and dressed corpo goons in the Imperium! They even held off a demonic incursion of their homeworld, by themselves.

Admitedly, that was mostly due to abandoning 95% of the civilian population and digging in around the spires of the planetary governor. but they did save the planet in the end! LOL

just not most of the people...

But hey, the Imperium's never short of people

[serene pawn]

Are this buy with real mony or with cash from the hame

Game

[dry cloak]

That one is from premium shop

[wispy sorrel]

that one was in the cash shop. but if the leaks are true looke like some of the free helmets may be getting visors added

[dry cloak]

Also thats a zealot helmet

[wispy sorrel]

Yes, I think I said so before I posted it

It'll be nice to get that visor on other helmets of its type that were always supposed to have them, but currently don't

[desert viper]

is there any info on this?

is it in the patch notes that it got this update?

if so, then surely it stays

[elder briar]

nah its not documented
but ill cope its permanent

it seams like the reddit is all over this change

[final locust]

yooo they finally added it?

one with the visor too?

[elder briar]

dunno just saw the guy posting their fit

[clear dagger]

I hope it’s not, it looks amazing tbh

[final locust]

Are fatshark still pretty slow with this stuff?

Feels like they add stuff nobody has been asking for

then the stuff that looks awesome they forget about

[serene pawn]

Help kron is geting my frends

[ancient path]

theyre never gunna re-release this damn armor 😔

[turbid ibex]

get your friends back

[faint beacon]

There's no way in hell I believe they did this intentionally

I refuse to believe that FS actually cared that much to tweak some of the Vet helms

[desert viper]

is there a set in stone blessing choice for combat knife on vet

[faint beacon]

Uncanny + Flesh Tearer

run Serrated with it and it does nuclear levels of bleeding

[desert viper]

oh sweet

[faint beacon]

cause your Crit chance comes from Reciprocity Talent

[desert viper]

thanks!

[tall torrent]

prob bug cuz of the clipping
with that said the new kasrkin helmet is truly peak and I will be buying

[steep flower]

Or just run serrated & instead of FT run Mercy for more weakspot dmg on an already good finesse scaling weapon

[tropic halo]

the visor somehow looks bit awkward

[green siren]

i mean, the choice isn't that great to begin with

[final locust]

id like to think theyd add the little visor thingy because it does enhance the look of the entire helmet a lot

that said, it looks cool without as well

[dense light]

lol this was never released, only viewable through the drip mod

[ancient path]

oh

i thought it was the cadian outfit

that they released once

[dense light]

Honestly the visor looks 1000 times better than without it. We’ve got the most chopped, washed, British faces to choose from - With near to none helmets to hide them

[dense light]

They never released the plain green, only the Kasrkin patterned set.

[hot whale]

Hey fellas, on grenade vet you gotta have the bolt pistol out before the grenade explodes, right? Or do u gotta have it out b4 u pull the pin?

[tall torrent]

u don't need it in hand

lethal prox just works all the time

[hot whale]

Oh damn

Sick

[serene pawn]

how is darktide in 2026

[tame lodge]

Better than 2022's

[turbid ibex]

Pretty fun

[serene pawn]

ok tkss i will reinstal it

[tall torrent]

If you’re not looking at havoc min max then the game is pretty good

[orchid hemlock]

Me in havoc playing flame Psyker for the 507483939 time:

🛌🏻

[tame lodge]

Me in havoc
Damn this game sucks

I'll play it for another 2k hours

[tall torrent]

If ur playing havoc then the game alrdy convinced u to stay so you’ll prob play more even tho the systems built around that mode are dogshit

[tame lodge]

Vergil

[serene pawn]

ok i do not remember what is hovac but ok tks

[tame lodge]

Oh so

You're from before havoc

[tall torrent]

Basically DT’s equivalent of VT2 modded

[serene pawn]

i quit the game after the trench mission

but was fun caz back in the day i did not have space marine 2

[tall torrent]

What trench mission

[serene pawn]

and i like to cut my way to the enamys

[tall torrent]

There’s only 1 trench mission and it’s the newest map added

[serene pawn]

the 1 with the tanks

[serene pawn]

yes

[tame lodge]

That's very recent
So nothing changed

[serene pawn]

the 1 with the tanks

i like the vibe

but my pc freezes when i play it

[tall torrent]

Yea this game’s optimization is next to nonexistent

[serene pawn]

I miss playing this game

i lie that is war hammer and haz the death korpses og krige

the only thinck that i do not like are the dlc prices

[tall torrent]

DLC classes are priced pretty similar to FS’s DLC careers in VT2 given DT classes’ design complexity

Given that you’re getting effectively 3 careers in 1 DT class

[void dragon]

I feel i finally getting the hang of C.shotguns, at least on Veteran (Emperor didnt had to test me so bad)

ppl just dont like to fight on choke points

[tall torrent]

Try full bore + manstopper

[void dragon]

manstopper better than no respite?

[tall torrent]

On vet I don’t think no respite is needed

It’s only there for boss

It doesn’t change # shots to kill pretty much everything else

[hollow ibex]

Funny crusher deletion tho

But yeah obviously manstopper is fantastic

https://tenor.com/view/monkasen-nathan-monka-coom-gif-23519849

[void dragon]

had few to manny moments where manstopper would helped a lot, so def will give it a run

@hollow ibex hey mate, do you have a Rashad focused build? i think i erased mine at some point

[hollow ibex]

You can just use paths WS build for that

Same thing

[void dragon]

the "Slayer" one from the guide?

[hollow ibex]

Not familiar with the build names, is there more than one WS build there?

[turbid ibex]

Slayer is the db

[void dragon]

the "Bomber" one and the Havoc which has points to put in it

[hollow ibex]

That’d def work with Rashad

[tall torrent]

2

[cloud reef]

when playing solo havoc i tend to get fkd up most of the time im sniping elites, is this a skill issue or bad teammates?

[void dragon]

"Solo havoc" and "teammates"?

[tall torrent]

Prob pub group

[tall torrent]

Could be both

[void dragon]

context is important, if you are the designated anti special, someone should be keeping an eye to remove melee enemies so you can do your job, but even then you are expected to clean your turf on a safe zone before going turret mode, if you are trying to do that on an unfavourable area for the team you are to blame

[cloud reef]

hm alright

another question

what do u guys pair with the helborne if u use it

[tall torrent]

Tac axe

[orchid hemlock]

The answer is the same regardless of the gun

PS

[void dragon]

Nah, some crazy folk use shovel, DClaw or even Hsword

[cloud reef]

i dont use the ps at all

power button weps are annoying to me haha

i recognize its rly good tho

[void dragon]

its probably one of the strongest (if not THE strongest) weapons in the game, even with the slow mobility and the activation loop

but with Helbore you might need horde clear to clean your surroundings, Hsword can do that but Taxe does it safely while also giving you mobility

[tall torrent]

It’s one of the only 3 t0 melee weapons in the game atm

[tame lodge]

What are the other 2

FGS

Pickaxes

[turbid ibex]

Pretty sure its like rashad and asm

[tame lodge]

We've been glazing pickaxes since day 1
I would be surprised if they weren't considered t0

Although I just remembered path considers FGS mid tier without the special

Or something along those lines

https://tenor.com/view/theres-no-limit-to-the-glaze-flight-riding-ftc-glazed-donut-gif-13467296479651443764

[void dragon]

Special is quite good, even as a stagger tool, and its damage to horde clear makes it insane

all while having good damage swings without an active minigame like the Rblades

[tame lodge]

3 lights to kill a bruiser or something

[tall torrent]

Force greatsword with sg + dd
Rashad on hvs

Everything else t1 max

[tame lodge]

Oh ok so FGS is there

That being said

Surprised no pickaxes

[serene pawn]

I have reinstalez the game

I like that now the gurd helmet has a vizor

Or what is the red glass

[tall torrent]

Not enough atk speed

[thorn lark]

Fgs is so fucking slow

Give me warp speed attack

[void dragon]

You want it to be even MORE powerful?! Madness

[ancient path]

still one of my favorite games. buggy as ever, though

idk if they fixed poxbursters this patch

[tame lodge]

That would require our Psykers to be biomancers (which they are)

[ancient path]

still has all the audio bugs tho

[void dragon]

The combat loop is still goated

But there are still stuff that are buggy

And still what I want is power fists

[little fog]

Some good fisting action.

[void dragon]

I want it so ogryn can reach it's peak slapping performance

[little fog]

Yes.

I Cast Fist!

[void dragon]

Is a disappearing act, ogryn claps, every heretic banishes on a red cloud

[sonic kayak]

They insistin' on a fistin'

[ancient path]

this is what i try to tell ppl all the time. theres no other game with the same sort of impact and combat loop as darktide

[steep pier]

just threw a build together to mess around and accidentally completed marked for death

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-meme-i-just-made-some-bullshit-gif-15690632352507439130

[steep pier]

3 penances left for the last penace and then maxed out on ogryn arbties vet and hive scum

[steep pier]

but darktide combat is based on vermintide 2

[tame lodge]

It's better

[ancient path]

vermintide doesnt mix gunplay and melee like darktide and vermintide doesn't have bolters.

[steep pier]

depends on what you prefer

but the fact is vermintide still has a more conistent player base then darktide lol

[ancient path]

i genuinely

[steep pier]

also way more maps and variety

[ancient path]

do not give a single fuck about player count lol

if i can queue for a match and get players, i dont care

[steep pier]

thats your opinion lol

[ancient path]

yes.

yes it is. lol.

[steep pier]

why is the no mands land penance still bugged

ive done auric end of the line twice and it still hasnt counted

[clear lantern]

did you watch the entire post-match cinematic

and not do it using quickplay, but the mission terminal

[void dragon]

how behind is the Chain axes to the Rashad? the mk12 feels quite solid but was wondering how behind it is currently

[tame lodge]

Mainly horde issues due to low unarmored/infested Adms

And you know, lack of BM

[hollow ibex]

Horde clear is actually great though

Even without BM

Crushers hordes can get sketchy though

[calm prairie]

by what metric

[steep pier]

consitent playerbase

[calm prairie]

as in less peaks and valleys on a chart more of a straight line

cuz even at its lowest these days, darktide still has more players than vt2 so I wouldn't say thats strictly true

and vt2 has the same spikes when updates drop like you see with darktide

[silver patrol]

me when i spread misinformation

[hexed arch]

vermintide 1 is like 2 bucks on steam

i should get it

[tepid otter]

I got both games for free and still havent tried it

[silver patrol]

it's a lot more janky

and the forge system is barely a step above darktide's og

[umbral scaffold]

Knowing that I probably won’t get serious ones anyway, serious name suggestions for my new Darktide kriegsman?

[tidal fox]

indiana jones

[umbral scaffold]

Just India jone

[calm shard]

Nadda Not-See

[calm shard]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tomato-tomato-mater-mato-catomato-gif-1820475763262864503

[umbral scaffold]

Wait a minute there…

[calm shard]

Fr*nch

[umbral scaffold]

🤢

[distant plaza]

Johnny-Waghammah

[umbral scaffold]

John Krieg

[tepid otter]

Kriegers have names?

Dont they just have designated troop numbers

[narrow widget]

guys should I buy the Vermintide 1 dlc

[fair shale]

https://tenor.com/view/so-is-gary-four-is-a-name-superman-robot-robot-superman-gif-4965358476179446705

[umbral scaffold]

No

[narrow widget]

[umbral scaffold]

Delete Vernmintixe

Trash game

[narrow widget]

bbbbbut it has Bret longsword

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-neuron-gif-1455356329209493514

[narrow widget]

and halberd

and tuskgor spear

[tepid otter]

Trooper 42069

[narrow widget]

and Markus Kruber my beloved

[tepid otter]

new krieg name

[umbral scaffold]

Fuck you and your “lore” he’s now Jurten

[tepid otter]

fake ahh krieger fan

[umbral scaffold]

Dude autocorrect is making me fucking tweak

[umbral scaffold]

Penitent engine

[tall torrent]

just do some roman numeral

if u want full role-play

[umbral scaffold]

…FUCK

[tall torrent]

alternatively put "Tyborc"

[umbral scaffold]

Fatshark please let me change it

Please fatshark

My mom is kinda homeless

[tall torrent]

u can change it

just pay 50k dockets at the chirurgeon for personality scourge

[umbral scaffold]

Man idek what ur saying

[tall torrent]

on the mourningstar lobby

go left

find the commissary shop

[umbral scaffold]

Wait are you being real-

[tall torrent]

next to it is the chirurgeon

barber place

he has an option called personality scourge

u can fully remake ur character there

needs to spend 50k dockets to use it

[umbral scaffold]

The only thing I use dockets for are reblessing and upgrading my Arbites weapons anymore lol

[tall torrent]

yea so just do personality scourge

it allows u to change character background, voice, name, etc

[umbral scaffold]

Appreciate it twin

[tall torrent]

this guy was in siege of vraks and actually later became an agent of the inquisition
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tyborc

[slender elm]

Why would they siege a gun

[narrow yacht]

i just found out the penance for killing 2 elites or specialists in a single use of volley fire counts friendly veteran volley fire for yourself too

finished the last 5 of the 50 i needed in my last mission and i was running voice, the other vet was using volley fire

[quaint marsh]

Im assuming Tier 0 Blessings in the guide are like baseline required?

[tall torrent]

tier0 means best basically

tier1 is good

these are just relative to the weapon

the same blessing can be t1 on one weapon but t0 on another

[quaint marsh]

Right I figured, thanks. Researching the Vigilant Auto Gun for a friend

Looks like its more important to get a weakspot hit than it is to get a crit, does that sound right?

[hollow ibex]

ideally you want both

btw never take weakspot or crit damage as weapon perks

on any weapon

they're both really bad perks

[quaint marsh]

oh yeah I have 800 hours in the game, know that much lmao. Just dont use this weapon and am lookign at the numbers for the first time

[tall torrent]

u shud aim for weakspot whenever u can (except vs mauler or plasma gunner) across basically every weapon
and surgical should feed u sufficient crits anyway

with deadly accurate the crit weakspot 1 burst total dmg is quite high

just enough to 1 burst priority enemies like both flamers and both gunners in havoc max hp scaling with mk3
which puts it ahead of a lot of breakpoint-oriented weapons

[quaint marsh]

Specifically the mk vii, he likes the rifle feeling. I know its like objectively the worst, but its still good

I use iLas

[tall torrent]

it's the worst for breakpoints but still usable

u just expect to shoot twice more often unless u spec harder into ranged dmg

[calm shard]

ilas is not really the objective worst gun

but it sure is the most pointless one

you basically only use it because roleplay purposes

it is directly outclassed by laspistol and arguably helbore

[tall torrent]

inf las needs help to match the glorious drip it's getting soon

I'll be happy if any of the inf las gets to about as good as vig auto 3

[amber vortex]

more power to you if you run inf lasgun

[quaint marsh]

Oh for sure, Las pistol is just better iLas. However semi auto rifle sniper play style is fun. I do aurics and maelstrom with variations of this build. Power sword and kraks can deal with anything in melee, iLas can deal with anything at range.

I like to zoom and the holographic sight of the iLas

[surreal sentinel]

How good is the Catachan sword with CC?

[tepid otter]

cc.. like the guys with the flamers?

[surreal sentinel]

Crowd control.

How good is the Catachan sword with crowd control?

[tall torrent]

depends on what ur fighting

lots of armor, not good

[surreal sentinel]

Ahh

[tall torrent]

maniac and unarmored enemies, it's good

[surreal sentinel]

Alright, well since I'm running Infiltrator and double barrel shotty, I think I'll be fine with the Catachan sword.

[tall torrent]

then ur missing a lot of carapace dmg

[surreal sentinel]

How is the shotty not good against Carapace?

[tall torrent]

shoot at crusher with it and u'll find out

[surreal sentinel]

Aye, fair enough. What should I run on my Curios? I'm thinking stamina efficiency, combat ability Regen, and +5 toughness.

I'm also running Krak Grenades

[willow rain]

So

Is it still socially acceptable to run no capstone vet

[hollow ibex]

it's generally not a good idea

[willow rain]

But they're all so mid

[hollow ibex]

you're kidding right

[willow rain]

No

I'm not

[hollow ibex]

ok well the keystones are all quite strong now these days

[willow rain]

I feel I gain more value from just taking another passive I'ma be honest

[hollow ibex]

and not putting at least one point in them is a mistake

[willow rain]

I like FT

But I forget to ping

[hallow drift]

Sounds like a good habit to train

[willow rain]

You're not incorrect

[hallow drift]

I think of a lot of class intricacies like minigames

[tall torrent]

u shud be tagging important enemies regardless of which keystone u take

[hollow ibex]

bind tag to lmb

||don't actually do this||

[willow rain]

I play only in dedicated 4 mans so I just use my words

Also I play console

So dpad ping

[hollow ibex]

could take WS or MMF instead on most builds too

[hallow drift]

That’s fair, but it really helps with tracking targets in the dark + blood + fire

[hollow ibex]

vet's strongest builds use WS

MMF is also very strong tho build-dependent

[willow rain]

Does grenade tinkerer do anything for kraks outside monstrosities?

[hollow ibex]

crusher one-shot

[tall torrent]

yes, havoc crusher 1 tap

outside havoc it's not required

[willow rain]

I'll keep that stored

That's good to know

[tall torrent]

see pinned guide for info

[willow rain]

So, say I'm doing a bit of recon las play using the crits don't spend ammo (I'm fuckin around in heresy rn) would y'all use MMF or WS

[sonic kayak]

If you play Battlefield, then you already know

[hallow drift]

I bound ping to my upper side mouse button and keep middle mouse for the “go here” ping

[calm shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241878072605540508/1324137193421148211/media-iv-text.gif

[hallow drift]

I basically scan hordes until I hit something

[willow rain]

Deadshot still works even if you have no stamina right?

[tall torrent]

no

[tall torrent]

FT

[willow rain]

[hallow drift]

I was gonna shit if it did

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/im-kidding-homelander-antony-starr-the-boys-im-joking-gif-25925069

[tall torrent]

recon doesn't scale finesse well for MF

[willow rain]

So need stamina gain

Got

[tall torrent]

or just don't use deadshot

[willow rain]

Alternatively

[hallow drift]

What’s that one talent uhh

[willow rain]

I need the crit

[hallow drift]

30% stam on dodge

[willow rain]

For my recon

To actually use the free ammo perk

[tall torrent]

what's ur build

[willow rain]

Meme

Shock trooper recon las

Currently running marksmans but I swap to infiltrate sometimes

Krak as always

[tall torrent]

show full build

[willow rain]

It's half wip

But one sec

[tall torrent]

don't take 6 stack for FT

take redirect fire

onslaught also not needed (u should melee carapace)

skirmisher + exploit weakness is 45% global dmg combined, super strong

[lyric path]

AKI get a ad blocker

[willow rain]

Phone

[lyric path]

even phones can have an ad blocker man

[willow rain]

Meh

To sketchy

Idrc

[hallow drift]

Is built into Brave browser

I use it to watch YouTube videos in bed so I don’t have to roll over and skip ads until I fall asleep

[slender elm]

Waterfox i guess

With all the adblock shit

[slim copper]

This works on Firefox too

[slender elm]

Firefox is going to shit do not recommend

Waterfox is a branch without their corporate bullshit

[hollow ibex]

FF is still perfectly fine

[tidal fox]

is boltgun good for vet?

or is it easily outclassed

[hollow ibex]

still good

[full garnet]

it's a good weapon but it's something you either build around or reserve for bossing

if you're looking for a ranged weapon for a weapon specialist build, bolt pistol is usually better, but it's not exactly bad

[austere mica]

Revolver is better than bistol for weapon spec

Better damage and finesse

[full garnet]

revolver is better if you can hit heads and don't have a good answer for carapace, otherwise boltpistol hits the same one-shot breakpoints

so it is less strict for aim both bc you don't need to hit the head and because the boltpistol bullets are fatter

[distant mural]

[hollow ibex]

idk if the bistol bullets are fatter

they feel the same

both guns have very fat bullets

[cunning sandal]

Very strong iirc

[cunning sandal]

They have the same raycast actually (iirc)

[full garnet]

interesting, I thought it shared the bolter projectile and the rev had a smaller one

[cunning sandal]

Yes, Boltpistol damage is the same as Bolter

[full garnet]

might just be a visual illusion since rev has a little more bloom on hip fire

[cunning sandal]

but the raycast (the size of the hitscan) is the same as Revolver iirc

or at least close enough to not really have a difference

[distant mural]

I prefer the bolter over the bistol.

[hollow ibex]

ice cold take

[distant mural]

It just feels better.

[hollow ibex]

bistol sets a pretty low bar

[distant mural]

And i know the dmg is the same on paper but i swear the spearhead does more.

I just cant prove it

[hollow ibex]

well once you factor in shit like pinning fire

it absolutely does

[distant mural]

Yeah

I dont really have a way to check that.

[tidal fox]

only issue ive been having is the sway on shots and the ammo

besides that it's a powerpuncher tbh

[tall torrent]

Boltpistol is quite a bit worse at breakpoints

[tall torrent]

It does do more because u get better blessings

[tall torrent]

Same raycast radius of 0.1

[hollow ibex]

makese sense

[noble epoch]

What blessings n shit should I put on the lex power flachion (for auric) with all the extra dmg perks for posses and elites n allat

As a melee weapon for my nade build

Oh and with the weapons mastery thingy where melee and ranged weapons buff each other

[tall torrent]

Check pinned guide

[noble epoch]

In what section

There uhhh

A lot

[tall torrent]

Power falchion

And for builds check the veteran sections

[noble epoch]

Is there a way to jump to a certain section?

[tall torrent]

Yea there’s a navigation panel on the right side

[noble epoch]

Ah thx

[slender elm]

Is it worth it for vets to run melees that cant kill carapace well

[narrow frost]

Yeah

[slender elm]

Kraks enough to cover? 🤔

[narrow frost]

I run Dclaw into rot armor H40. And I still outperform my team

I use smokes myself

But up to you

[slender elm]

That sounds like a skill issue for your team

[junior grail]

Is it bad that I've grown reliant on the Clear Smokes mod?

Being able to see through and also the Smoke borders is such a lifesaver

[vagrant dagger]

Does throwing smoke at a daemonhost stop/delay it waking up? Saw someone do that once, never used smoke myself

[steep flower]

I know the sause of your profile pick

[cunning sandal]

Surely I know nothing of what you speak, sir or madam.

[steep flower]

Oh no worries
My lips are sealed

[cunning sandal]

But now I know what you are.

[narrow frost]

I cannot think of this ever affecting a dh. Maybe look in Kuli's enemy guide highlighting dh aggression

95% sure it doesn't

[vagrant dagger]

kthx

[steep flower]

#noshamejustpureenjoyment

[vagrant dagger]

yep, nothing about smoke/vision. it's distance

[sly orchid]

Unless you hit the host directly with a smoke

I think its a projectile and does like 1 damage

[strong fox]

hello ive been playing h40 with ogryn arbites and zealot for awhile now and im gonna try to learn Vet, any tips guys? ive been trying havoc 30s and im having a hard time trying to focus spoecials esp when i have an arbites front liner

sometimes i cant just leave the melee state in order not to die

and i feel like if i dont kill specials fast enough it is my entire fault that the team is gonna wipe bec of throwers trappers etc

flamethrowers*

[narrow frost]

Spec more into melee and being a faster gun for maniac specials

Vet is the hybrid class for a reason

But if you are committed to being more ranged focus, learn cheese spots/enemy spawn behavior and know that without that it's depends on your team alot more

Also

If your teammates are dying to specials it's not your fault, unless your actively leaving them alive and redirect them into your team

But if you learn better with videos then reading/researching I have a few ranged and melee vet videos

[strong fox]

can i wa tch some of the videos man? bec i feel like when I use an arbites i usually win my h40s but when I play with my Vet, i lose like a lot. I have only done 1 successful high tier havoc with veteran and it was 33. and I hate using the plasma gun at all

[narrow frost]

https://youtube.com/@ainzdt?si=K8UYD0AIAWQDjJqg

https://youtu.be/4csRClzNRjo?si=e5kO9ImYyilKc9Z3

I have a few vet videos but here is one

Won't be your experience because this team was a bit stacked

[strong fox]

You dont normally use VOC as ability?

[narrow frost]

Nah

It's not that good anymore for me

Stances does so much more

Shout is more like a bandaid, covering your mistake. While stance is very proactive, being able to see the threats/get the buffs to kills the threats faster/insane toughness regen