veteran-class

[heavy rover]

With the right setup you can throw in helbore as good anti armour too

[snow torrent]

yea, im trying to figure out a nice support veteran setup, whaat weapons etc

i like the combat knife+anti armour

any ideas?

[heavy rover]

Support vet like a dedicated anti range / elite / specialist?

[snow torrent]

something like that yeah

[heavy rover]

Ah I see

Here's my build that I run for havoc and it does just that https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f3c6424-3c04-4446-9875-2fcdecb5b950/flexible-helbore-havoc

Feel free to make changes as you see fit

[snow torrent]

awesome, ill take a look

😄

[heavy rover]

There's a lot of flexibility in it, like I've done changes like swap the helbore to a different mk and perks, even swap to focus target and also smokes if needed

[snow torrent]

yeah been using focus target alot

[unreal nova]

That set up may suffer into hordes if bolter. Krak or frags?

[snow torrent]

guess melee is preference

[heavy rover]

Yep, frags can be swapped in too

Personally I find that the tac axe with trench fighter drills and serrated edge more than enough for me to do crowd control

[unreal nova]

Oh, I forgot to reply.

[heavy rover]

I've also done power sword with Sunder. It works really well with serrated edge bleed stacks

[unreal nova]

Is more, knoife and plasma/bolter.

[quick shell]

plasgun isnt good into armour really

[unreal nova]

Bolter isn't good to shoot into hordes, massive waste of ammo.

Sadly, pubs do it so much.

Karkers even go fire team and demand all ammo.

[quick shell]

shooting into pure hordes is a huge waste

I think it is on a lot of guns

[pine plume]

the thuth nuke is that shooting anything into hordes is bad, unless flamer or hivescum

[quick shell]

I think there's cases for it

but a lot of them are typically mixed hordes

[unreal nova]

Yeah. But if you can deal without mag dumping, that should be priority.

[woeful junco]

this looks cool

[patent shell]

Genuine question, whats the best way to utilize smokes in this game

[tall torrent]

Throw them at where you want to be within 2s

[heavy rover]

Also throw them when you're fighting the plasma twin. They just stand there and do nothing

[patent shell]

I see, that makes sense

oh does it bug them out

[heavy rover]

Yeah

No mines, no shooting, nothing

[patent shell]

Beautiful

[heavy rover]

Literally

[frank basin]

I know Christmas is over I drew the image I couldn’t even find original image

Russia airspace

[icy blaze]

poor Azerbaijan flight on Christmas 2024

[dry cloak]

i kinda forgot that vraks mk5 can be fun to use

because i usually shit at it

[azure narwhal]

I actually enjoyed the columnus more once i got around to it, but i see the appeal. It's like the recon, using the brrrttt mark was fun and all but the slow firing brown one became my favourite

[snow torrent]

hellbore feels horrible lol

[azure narwhal]

Which one you using and wat you using it with

[snow torrent]

axe is great though.

[azure narwhal]

Taxe and caxe are funni

[patent shell]

mk5 helbore is pretty fun when you get into the flow of it

[snow torrent]

hellbore lasgun feels too slow and too weak?

maybe i got the wrong version

mk4

[azure narwhal]

Mk4 is slow which is why you use weight of fire (blessing). You can tap fire at stuff to proc it easily (this still does a lot of damage with MMF) which mentioning, helbore builds need 3 things, exe stance, shock trooper and marksman's focus.

[snow torrent]

its charged attack, but its just a tap?

hmm

[azure narwhal]

Charged attack is your main action with it, of course

[snow torrent]

im prolly doing it wrong then

[azure narwhal]

But with MMF proc + the strongest helbore single shots are more than enough to take out the ocassional gunner/specialist, this is good to note because weight of fire quickly procs on your weapon this way

And you can easily do charged shots

[patent shell]

also for the mk5 atleast its bayonet is actually pretty strong and fast

[gleaming sun]

Is hard to get use to it due to how hectic the higher levels become
But I guess is just getting use to it, which is what I'm trying to do

The Helbore feels like trying to forget half the things you already know about the game and change stuffs to use it well

[azure narwhal]

This is my personal build. But you should check pins for more in depth buildcrafting guides

[snow torrent]

i guess hellbore is versatile but requires alot of ...getting used to

[azure narwhal]

Yeah it is not something you just pick up out of the blue either

[unreal nova]

You either like it or hate it, like plasma.

[orchid hemlock]

Dam skill diff 😞

[azure narwhal]

[willow prairie]

how to use helbore:

disable autofire/skitarius

[azure narwhal]

Funny of you to assume i was interacting with such heretical technology in the first place

[cobalt wedge]

I run Braced Autogun

I hold left click

Sometimes I hold left and right click

Also, to get the 90% accuracy on Heresy or higher mission, what gun is recommended to use?

I was thinking Plasma since it can burn through ammo just so quickly

[bleak ginkgo]

I tried on bolt pistol a bunch of times

[snow torrent]

i played with non-charged hipfire hellbore lol

no wonder i thought it was crap 😂

hipfire charge is amazing

[weary cave]

Am i wront to say you should just always want to have a Vet in your havoc missions??

I swear the shout is unmatched in increasing success rate

[quick shell]

Vet is very good, idk about always but they offer a lot

[weary cave]

I honestly feel like it might just be always that vet should fit into a 4 man team comp

unless doing memes or some shit

but also i'm biased psyker enjoyer who loves the shield and help with ranged elites

[distant plaza]

double barreled shotgun, rolling steel/train mission is probably the easiest

[quick shell]

can u still let urself die to remove half ammo

[distant plaza]

dunno, i didn't feel a need to cheese it when i got the achievement
it did require unloading both barrels at even singular poxwalkers to make happen so...

[patent shell]

i just did plasma gun and made sure i didnt have a vet with survivalist

[cobalt wedge]

nah I just tried the achievement with Plasma Gun, first try

Tbh I always use fully automatic weapons, so prob why it was so hard for me to get 90% accuracy

Oh, and ending with 0 ammo I guess, I always have ammo at the end

[tall torrent]

No, but a competent vet does offer a lot to a team

[calm shard]

doesn't actually matter that much whether survivalist is present or not iirc

the game only checks for if you have ammo if you pull your gun out

so getting to 0 and then just never equipping your gun again would also work

[patent shell]

i... never knew that 😭

i thought it HAD to be 0 no matter what

[stoic thorn]

DB shotgun

[surreal rune]

hey did they bug zealot's second wind talent

[snow torrent]

k hellbore is ffing amazing

[surreal rune]

it just doesnt seem to work half of the time when it should be

[snow torrent]

whats the difference between hellbore mk4 and mk3a though? beside some dmg

[livid fractal]

what purpose does Sunder have?

don't charged attacks already have infinite cleave?

wait pswords dump cleave?

[fair shale]

Cleave targets, yeah

[livid fractal]

funky

[fair shale]

Its like

[livid fractal]

i thought it was mobil

[fair shale]

10.5 vs 11.9 or something

[livid fractal]

ahhh makey sensey

[fair shale]

Vs PS have actual dogshit mobi and needing help badly

[livid fractal]

also does the "Havoc" build from hammer of the emperor work well for normal gameplay

this one

[fair shale]

It's "The Build" for vet

So yes

[livid fractal]

ahh aight

also what can i consistently 1 shot with a well built pgun?

[fair shale]

That i do not have an answer to

Don't like using it

Sorry

[turbid ibex]

Wait the guide is already out

[fair shale]

It has been for like a week and a half

[turbid ibex]

Shit

Thats what i get for not checking this channel

[crude wind]

Gotta be real I absolutely hate the Plasma gun. It feels so janky.

[fair shale]

I'm just a conventional gun person tbh

Like the combat shotty and the IAG on vet

[crude wind]

I dislike how the breakpoints feel super inconsistent. If you have skirmisher up at 4, agile engagement etc it puts things down. You mess up the buff stacking at all and it stops one tapping flamers

Talking havoc here but you get it

[fair shale]

I dislike that it has to take

Fuckin unarmored

Cause of fuckin poxbombers

[fair shale]

I do

If I'm using any charge gun its the helbore

More reliable

[crude wind]

I also love Helbore

Beeg Helbore just puts shit down

[calm shard]

all specialists except mutants

can also one shot gunners

and anything else is mostly just a waste of ammo

[crude wind]

Yeah, and that is the other issue with it. It feels more like a side arm on a gun class

Fair enough if you like that play style but if I am playing Vet I want to shoot things, generally speaking

[primal zealot]

absolutely horribly designed specialist. hitting them for 999 with the kickback measurably shortens my lifespan

[fair shale]

I firmly believe darktide would be a better game without poxbombers

[primal zealot]

same

theyre a big part of why i dont care about bAlAnCe

[fair shale]

"Hey, yk what'd be cool? If we made the bomber somehow the most cancerous enemy in the game." -Some insane person at fatshark

[primal zealot]

when theres an enemy that spawns in packs, can attack from out of bounds, blinds dmgs n debuffs you while buffing other enemies

[fair shale]

And the game will spawn

12 at a time on occasion

I kinda think the director needs to be looked at tbh

[primal zealot]

ur not the only one

[fair shale]

I believe that

[primal zealot]

i know cole has noticed it

[fair shale]

Sometimes havoc feels like a cointoss based on how the director feels that run

[primal zealot]

if u have spawn feed u can just see it spawn in 3-4 of every special in like 5-10 second intervals

[fair shale]

Ive had missions where 6 bosses spawn in waves all game

And I've had missions where I've seen a boss the entire mission

Same havoc rating

[fair shale]

I don't tbh

Takes some of the fun away

[primal zealot]

try it if u want confirmation of the director being totally fucked

although at this point i just assume its gonna shart n fart all over me

like 90% of games have the infinite specialist hordes

[patent shell]

my most hated used to be plasma gunners but tox bombers have to be the top 1 worst enemy in the game no competition

[calm shard]

vet is not a gun class

veteran is always a hybrid on their strongest build

[primal zealot]

plasmas are also gross stupid n op

[calm shard]

even exe stance the defacto gun ability also gives you incredible durability and stun immunity which makes melee safer and easier

[ember aurora]

Hello.

I just joined here. I keep watching videos where everything looks different.

ANyone got any tips on mods?

[bleak kettle]

Just found this infantry autogun build so fun https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a7f4ac3-039f-424a-a98c-3b57bba86bb8/abc-always-be-chooting

[calm shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/982944904080687107/1322327279900168245/attachment.gif

combat axe+iag feels weird as I think they're pretty mutually exclusive weapons

as they both want high talent point investment in opposite directions

IAG REALLY wants MMF, and caxe REALLY wants WS

And you can't have both

[signal juniper]

in the armory there is a 16% toughness at 390, is it worth it

[dry cloak]

Max is 17%

So yeah

[dry cloak]

I would like that iags be keystone agnostic. But what i would want and what fatshark does are different things

[quick shell]

i thought it was gunners

[trim badger]

When the game forces you to run kraks because rotten armour got buffed against melee:

[fair shale]

PGun only one shot headshots Poxbombers with unarmored in havoc

[quick shell]

ah

[quick shell]

it's so dumb

[trim badger]

here comes the crusher train choo choo

[calm shard]

what if I did something deranged for the laspistol

laspistol solution to all problems

[trail ore]

stop immediately

[calm shard]

okay but what if I...laspistol

[trail ore]

this is a bad idea trust me

[calm shard]

yeah good point

CLEARLY I NEED THE RENDING

[trim badger]

"mom I want needle pistol"

"we have needle pistol at home"

needle pistol at home:

[mild elk]

Hey for a krak & tag build do yall think the extra damage from grenade tinkerer is worth the point? Not having any issue clearing armor but I’m only playing on auric rn

[trim badger]

booty grab

[calm shard]

it was oka

god awful horde clear

should've used heavy sword

[umbral scaffold]

darktide play doh update

[sonic kayak]

For Auric? Nah not worth

[bleak oasis]

What objects can a plasma gun shoot through?

[calm shard]

most of them, completely arbitrary but you get a feel or it mostly

[tame lodge]

Yes

[gritty mural]

mfw the VoC vet that goes down a billion times doesn't even bother picking up field improv for grenades

[hollow ibex]

Field improv isn’t that good gonna be real

[quick shell]

it feels like a nice bonus

but it's reliant on crates which are kinda unreliable

[stable socket]

it's more of a "i need to get to the bottom of the tree but my weapon doesn't have much synergy with serrated blade" sort of talent

[hollow ibex]

yeh

[sonic coyote]

Does Precision Strikes on vet also apply to melee attacks as well? It's seems like it should. Also do bleed stacks still not give toughness when enemies die to bleed? Including toughness from Out for Blood?

[serene bough]

Yes it applies to melee

Bleed kills will give toughness if you take Out for Blood

[sonic coyote]

Thank you!

Got rid of One Motion and Field Improve for Precision Strikes and Serrated Blades. Going to have lots more dps now.

[tall torrent]

1. Yes
2. Bleed kills can give toughness depending on the talent you take (CK & OfB both can, but ET can’t)

You can check the pinned guide

[sonic coyote]

Good to know which perks Serrated blades can help with. Thank you!

[lucid reef]

What dump stat should I be looking for on the plasma gun?

[narrow frost]

71 charge, 69 thermal

if poor dump thermal

this is explained in the guide

check pins

[gentle lake]

I like ur name, is very cool

[sonic coyote]

Thank you!

Also tried out the new build. Switching those 2 perks make my dps go up by a frick ton.

[tame lodge]

@tired egret

[lucid reef]

How much of a difference does 1% make for charge

Because I got 70 charge 70 thermal

[narrow frost]

"Thermal Resist doesn't matter above 68.?% (69% is safer) for 8 hipfire shots before auto-vent.
Charge Rate reduces charge time for both firing modes, so it's good to have it be higher.
If you don't have the resources to make a perfect one, dump Thermal Resist to 60%. "

[lucid reef]

Yeah the guide doesnt say how much of a difference 1% makes if at all

[narrow frost]

if thermal is above 69% you are fine

[lucid reef]

Alright

[tawny rivet]

Veteran chat

join the cult of the tactical axe

[tall torrent]

this is fine

[cerulean flume]

Damn combat knife is goated

Bleed stacks go whoosh

[brisk epoch]

do you have a potato as your device?

[trim badger]

fuck you too :3

[brisk epoch]

what did I do

[trim badger]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-disposal-unit-dance-gif-27583345

[brisk epoch]

[tall torrent]

Yea he does

He plays on 24fps vsync on

[brisk epoch]

he needs to get a job

[tall torrent]

Fr

[brisk epoch]

Recon lasgun is good

recon lasgun and bolter are the best metas

plasma is also too but more controversial

[brisk epoch]

get a job

[brisk epoch]

btw where did you get that avatar

[tall torrent]

Forgor

[brisk epoch]

forgor

[peak heath]

If I'm trying to do normal ranged Veteran activities with left-hand choices on the skill tree and a bolt pistol, what do I want out of my reliquaries?

[narrow frost]

Veteran benefits massively from stacking toughness

His source of damage reduction is toughness % based

And his toughess Regen is % based

Look into the guide in pins for more info

[hollow ibex]

1 of each of hp tough and stam is pretty standard

[proud jolt]

my gun glitched

my casually 4000 rounds lol

playing havoc and I died, got revived and pulled out my bolter and was very suprised

Mr.Bigsharky, I found a glitch

[tame lodge]

Ah yes

3 pounds of gear

Lightweight

[primal zealot]

idk i think 3600 bolts might weigh a bit more than that bro

[charred halo]

are these workable stats i dont feel like gambling further

[primal zealot]

yeaj

as long as ur not getting farted on by dumping something crucial like dmg/pen/first target (depending on weapon ofc) youll be fine til u get a better one

[ancient path]

this may be a scrub take but good god i want poxbursters to be reworked

theyre like the most inconsistent thing in darktide

[narrow frost]

I agree

[ancient path]

sometimes double shoves get you blown up, sometimes a single shove keeps you safe

sometimes they dont leap

sometimes they leap in the wrong direction

[narrow frost]

Their VT counterpart were rare/only in certain gamemode. Way less dangerous and even rewarded you with ammo

I feel like they tried to give them the same role as the wizards from VT but failed

[ancient path]

double poxbursters is hella corny

sometimes you shove the 2nd

sometimes you dont

[narrow frost]

A special that is basically harmless unless you ignore them and are meant to split groups/disable someone

[ancient path]

i think the worst ones are the poxbursters that just refuse to blow up

and youre trying to handle 5000000 + 3 other things

and that one pox burster is just "nah"

[ancient path]

what did they do?

[narrow frost]

Groups of slaves with barrels on them screamed as they spawned and got louder the closer they were and jumped at you doing little damage but knockback was the main factor. If killed with ranged they dropped ammo

They spawned in waves

Like waves of specials

[calm shard]

Man

[ancient path]

oh is weapon customization working again

neat

also damn

[ancient path]

what set up are you using for your hellbore?

[calm shard]

Uh well that setup was to showcase the implications of a....bug?

very obscure feature?

something?

that I was posting about in #hivescum-class earlier

where I wrongfully assumed that laspistol was gaining cleaves on crit

[calm shard]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0b51439-d98d-4d26-bae4-d82fe619e7a1/helbore-one-shot-everything

[tame lodge]

Helbore W

As always

(but also WHAT THE FUCK)

[calm shard]

Yeah I recently ran into an extremely obscure mechanic/bug/whatever when talking to path in #hivescum-class

Apparently if you overkill an enemy by enough damage with a ranged weapon it just ignores their hit mass/health type and cleaves them anyways

Fuck if I know what the health threshold for it is but if I had to guess I'd say half

[tame lodge]

No such thing as overkill

But also
That's insanely wild Brutal Momentum

[calm shard]

yeah uh the build I had to do for that

and pop a red stim with

maybe a teensy bit impractical

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1444017590748975125/1455103045015699617/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.12.29_-_01.38.59.21.mp4?ex=695381d0&is=69523050&hm=7fecc2a0ff408e1f3f19b4207c93bdde7d1275f236d5c93a3a043abb2cab2119&

[upbeat horizon]

Heyyy, for the weapons globally, brown means big dmg but slow, blue is low dmg but fast, and blue is in betxeen, right?

[austere mica]

I guess?

[upbeat horizon]

wait not its seems its sometime the opposit?

did they change all assault rifle names at one point?

[austere mica]

Yes

[upbeat horizon]

I love fatshark

[austere mica]

The name change was a GW thing

[dry cloak]

mates

i started preffering sap to brautos

[bleak kettle]

which one is best on vet Infantry/Vigilant/Braced autogun been using mkV infantry from this build and its lots of fun https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a7f4ac3-039f-424a-a98c-3b57bba86bb8/abc-always-be-chooting

[inland canopy]

veteran on autogun ignores armor if built right

[snow torrent]

How do you survive highest difficulty (5?) 3 is quite...challenging already?

[bleak kettle]

3 is easy imo jump from 3 to 4 is really steep you need a decent teammate 1-2

[dry cloak]

play more and you will get it one day

[snow torrent]

Did 4 once, felt insane

[dry cloak]

those are 3 different weapon families

[tall torrent]

U need good understanding of base game mechanics & target priority vs specialists

[snow torrent]

People split and everything goes to shit

[dry cloak]

lack of team work

[tall torrent]

Each class has enough tools to carry the game but u need to know how to use them properly

[bleak kettle]

if you are good enough you can split depending on difficulty otherwise groups of 2 at least

[dry cloak]

i used to play aurics. now 4/damnation is enough for me

[snow torrent]

I haven't made orange curios yet and capped power rating, but I can't imagine a bit more rating will make all the difference

[bleak kettle]

1 drops all drops whenever you get to a drop

[snow torrent]

Aurics if 5 right, and then there are havoc?

I don't recall verminde 2 being as difficult

vermintide*

[bleak kettle]

havoc is for tryhards from what i heard so far

[tall torrent]

Auric is meant to be the cataclysm equivalent
Havoc is meant to be the modded equivalent

[snow torrent]

ohhh I see, thanks

[tall torrent]

Auric is just damnation with extra spawn intensity

[dry cloak]

and guarantedd modifiers

[bleak kettle]

is manic/flak correct for infantry autogun mk5

[tall torrent]

It’s ok

[snow torrent]

Must be 1% of the community playing that

I can't imagine tomes on that difficulty lol

[tall torrent]

U can check the guide pinned here

I covered every veteran-available weapon alrdy

[snow torrent]

gotcha

[tall torrent]

Books in this game are worthless

[snow torrent]

too random?

[tall torrent]

Grims are horrible

[snow torrent]

just a bit more gold eh?

[tall torrent]

Tomes are worth very little
And grims corrupt your hp over time

They’re just not worth grabbing

[snow torrent]

ahh, used to be less max hp mm

[bleak kettle]

if you need gold run ordo dockets on all 3 curious like i do

[dry cloak]

if you are comming from vt2

[snow torrent]

your veteran ranged weapons primer is in the bin?

[dry cloak]

books and grims are useless

they do nothing for end game rewards

just some exp and gold

[snow torrent]

yeah too bad man

i liked how they did the lootbox system ugrades in vermintide

[bleak kettle]

i also came from vt2 20h in already did 5th difficulty runs now doing 4th since its with pubs

[bleak kettle]

RNG hell for reds you mean ?

[tall torrent]

Just look at pin “Hammer of the Emperor”

[snow torrent]

gotcha

[tall torrent]

It’s long but everything in there is actually relevant

Have fun reading lol

[bleak kettle]

this game i was just told look at the max % on the weapons stats you want mobility at 60% rest at 80% almost always

max% is random in this game

[snow torrent]

thats a good thing, no? heh

[snow torrent]

yea figured out that much as well

hellbore is really the weapon so far

[tall torrent]

Depends on how much u like reading

[snow torrent]

I don't like reading perse, but what it gives me lol

weird thing to say i guess

you wrote the bloody thing after all

you write manuals for a living? 😄

[tall torrent]

No

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075782743285301308/1448329868491100252/supra.gif

[snow torrent]

allright, keep your secrets then

[bleak kettle]

combat knife with invis ult turned out to be really fun its basically shade from vt2 this build: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a58b877-f385-40dd-a4cc-d8198b4a6688/invincible-vet-2

[dry cloak]

zealot has assasin path

[bleak kettle]

on my first character still gonna make either ogryn or psycher next

[dry cloak]

fair enough

[snow torrent]

veteran is so much fun, the other classes don't look as interesting

[bleak kettle]

psycher is good the krak granades are way too OP outside of havoc imo

[snow torrent]

yeah kraks are damn reliable

[dry cloak]

kraks arent op

they literally do what they do in lore

punch holes in armour

[dry cloak]

oh man thats where you are wrong

every class is fun

[snow torrent]

most likely

Outfits on veteran looks so awesome though, even though its basic

[dry cloak]

#darktide-driptide

[silk elbow]

so what would yall recommend for like, the plasma gun

mainly with ammo management and stuff

hmm, I sare say my hud is lying

its still going

[trim hemlock]

Try pressing the button again after the presumed cooldown number reaches a figurative 0.

it's a visual bug

... it should be at least.

[silk elbow]

its still going

still going

im dying laughing at this for no reason

[tall torrent]

Melee more

U usually can’t afford to shoot at ranged horde units with plasma

It’s almost exclusively used for shooting at elites and specialists

[silk elbow]

thank you!

im gonna be working on it next to level up the mastery so wanted to know before I got into it

the dumpstat for plasma gun is generally charge rate right?

[tall torrent]

No, check the pinned guide here

It’s a bit more complicated

[silk elbow]

whicxh one?

[tall torrent]

Hammer of the emperor

[silk elbow]

okay, itneresting

thank you

[blazing jetty]

69% thermal resist and 71% charge rate are optimal

But you can get away with dumping charge rate

[silk elbow]

well I got one with 70 on both of those and im broke, soo imma just use that one

[blazing jetty]

Lucky you

[silk elbow]

I spent all my money to get 1 good shovel so I could max it out

I have 20 shovel.s

I shoulkd probably discard them

also god, i hate my shredder auto pistol because I physically cannot complete the mastery

it just

forever has 1 point

just 1

that I cannot spend

it just wont let me

[dry cloak]

Ogryn ahs thr same problem

On few weapons more

[silk elbow]

ever gonna get fixed or?

[tall torrent]

70/70 is perfect, u don't need to roll more

[silk elbow]

amazing username
but also ty

hmmm, the plasma gun would be pretty good for that one achievment that requires you to be out of ammo with 90% accuracy right?

[slender elm]

still pretty damn hard to get

[silk elbow]

yah, I've come pretty close with my hellbore

[slender elm]

i tried a few times

[blazing jetty]

It's easiest to do with a shotgun

Bolt pistol could also work

[dry cloak]

revolver mate

57 rounds of rev vs 88 of bistol

[gleaming sun]

It is a bug that it has been around a while, yeah
It gets kinda annoying

[tall torrent]

it's easiest with DB shotgun

[slender elm]

im reading hammer of the emperor and it says plasma gun traits are unarmored and flak...

why would i take unarmored

is there something im missing

[fair shale]

You need it to one shot poxbombers with a headshot

And they are the worst enemy in the game

[slender elm]

i see

i thought they're maniac

[charred halo]

how good is the shovel

[quick shell]

It’s okay

[silk elbow]

well I got the achievment

but someone left and there was a stupid ass bot that kept giving me ammo

I hate you bot

I mean, I hate them in general anyways

[hearty echo]

what should I have as blessings on my helbore pattern lucius lasgun?

[midnight wyvern]

wouldn't you like to know

[hearty echo]

I would

:C

[tall torrent]

Check pinned guide

[unreal nova]

If you use up all ammo and never swap to gun, will still work.

[dapper bison]

What mark of helbore should i use?

[bleak kettle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a58b877-f385-40dd-a4cc-d8198b4a6688/invincible-vet-2 how is this build would bolt pistol or laspistol work with it

[silk elbow]

I generally use the mk IV

[signal juniper]

I know 69 thermal and 71 charge rate is optimal for plasma gun but i got a plasma gun with dump stat on thermal, is it usable or nah?

[dry cloak]

everything is usable

you simply wont shoot as much

[signal juniper]

What i mean is, is the difference between 60 and 69 thermal a big difference?

[dry cloak]

69 is the brakpoint for shooting 8 times before overheating

so you will shoot 7

imo its good

[tall torrent]

it's fine, use it until u feel like u hav enuff resources for rolling perfect

[tall torrent]

the difference is getting 8 continuous hipfire shots from 0% heat (68.?% thermal or higher), or 7 continuous shots

it's a good QOL benefit but not fundamental to the weapon's performance

[signal juniper]

I see

[snow torrent]

Are there ways to see if you're in coherency?

[hearty echo]

the 2nd unlock is my personal fav

[distant plaza]

the blue icon with a number 1-#

[hearty echo]

blue icon with numbers

[snow torrent]

thanks, ill have a look 😄

thatll be very useful

[umbral scaffold]

Upgraded Krak grenade my beloved, AKA the boss fight champion

[dry cloak]

nah

zealot one shot

[umbral scaffold]

???

Can..can they do that?

[dry cloak]

yes

[umbral scaffold]

Sweet Imperium

I may make a Zealot after all

[dry cloak]

you will play all classes one day

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah I do wanna try more than just veteran, especially Arbites, but my bank account is already suffering from all the customization packs on space marine 2

[dry cloak]

i bought both season passes at a sale

[dry cloak]

you still have whole 3 classes

with whole of 9 playstyles

with mix and match capabilities

i think you can stave of buying arby for a while

[umbral scaffold]

Eh, it’s more about interest in the class, ive tried a bit of Psyker and its kind of fun, but Arbites just looks both fun and very effective with the dog being able to pin and kill most enemies

Plus being able to name my mastiff something goofy like Cupcake or smth

Vet will always be my favorite though, sad we dont have Death Korps outfits for every class

[dry cloak]

and there wont be for both arby and scum

core 4 has 2 krieg sets

unless fatshark proves me wrong ofcourse

[umbral scaffold]

…Help out someone who’s had the game for maybe 4-5 weeks…Core 4?

[dry cloak]

what are dlc classes?

tell me

core 4 is vbet zet oggy and psyker

[umbral scaffold]

Ohhhh okay

Are they in the commissary or?

I haven’t seen Krieg sets for anyone but vet

And ogryn

[quick shell]

zealot with thammer can oneshot bosses in hav40

[quick shell]

zealot just generally has a lot of good bossfight options

but thammer is the king

thammer cannot however 1shot a rot armour crusher

because that's how dumb they are

[dry cloak]

they were in at the beggining of the month

[dry cloak]

relic blade can also one shot

[quick shell]

relies on sprint attack though

[dry cloak]

yeah

[proud jolt]

Trying to master more of my weapons, all my lasguns are maxed, I gotta work on the autoguns, and the plasma guns. I don't really care for them, but I want them penance points

[dry cloak]

because zealot and psyker sets for krieg are fucking ugly

[fair shale]

Most krieg larpers are also playing vet

For obvious reasons

[dry cloak]

yaeh

[crude wind]

idk I like the Zealot and Psyker ones more than the Vet one

[dry cloak]

heres one and two

[crude wind]

especially with the candle helmet version zealot got on the re-release

[umbral scaffold]

Shiii the Psyker one kinda looks fire to me

[crude wind]

the coats look better on both Zeal and Psyker as well

[willow prairie]

at max stack marty without external damage bonus relic blade stab does about 44k to plague ogryn and thammer do about 70k-ish

h40

[dry cloak]

Hammer will always be king of one shots

That why it should a rework

Yes rework

The pasive from crowbar

Better adms

And movesets that both ironhelm and crucis usable

[willow prairie]

build used

you can use unseen blade for little more damage but personally I don't like it

[lean heron]

is the dueling sword good?

cause it kinda feels meh against hordes

[dry cloak]

is grass green

[dry cloak]

and will

its anti elite weapon

[lean heron]

i see
so what should I be using for horde clear

[faint beacon]

I mean you can easily turn it into a brain dead horde clear weapon

Serrated edge talent on vet lmao

But yes the DS is busted overpowered

[lean heron]

it is?
damn

I picked it cause it looks cool with my outfit

also cause it's the only thing with a high enough level to do any dmg

[faint beacon]

Mfw they replace it’s special with arguably something better and now it’s even more stronger

[quick shell]

what was the old special

[midnight wyvern]

no

[faint beacon]

High stagger poke

Youd literally stun lock anything aside from monstrosities

[narrow yacht]

calling a weapon that's burst fire or semi only an autogun is the most warhammer thing ever

[deft tangle]

Hey, which veteran talent is this? https://gyazo.com/64d63275f87d4fc20388b20dfa0522ee

[narrow frost]

zealot, get 25% of your hp back from holy revenant

[deft tangle]

oh i though it was veteran talent

my gosh

[narrow frost]

all g

[deft tangle]

im gonna complete it asap, thx

[narrow frost]

just bring thunder hammer

proc until death

then charge hammer and wack a poxwalker

easy

[quick shell]

bring literally any melee weap if u proc it inot a horde u will do it

[deft tangle]

kk

thx

[proud jolt]

Big poke dmg

[deft tangle]

already done

thx

[narrow yacht]

what's everyone's favorite mark on recon lasgun right now?

[thorny egret]

VIc, easily

[deft tangle]

which weapon has the most dps? Lasgun?

[hearty echo]

14 easily

[hearty echo]

depends

are you looking for fire rate or flat out damage?

[deft tangle]

fire rate

[hearty echo]

that'd be recon lasgun

[deft tangle]

do u have any updated build to check it?

[hearty echo]

personally, I use the mk14 but the other two fire fast as hell

[hollow ibex]

12's the firerate one

[hearty echo]

I don't really 'do builds' in all honesty

[hollow ibex]

but it's not as good as the others

[quick shell]

LOL

[hearty echo]

like I just pick perks that mesh well with my other party members

[hearty echo]

this

anyway

question

should I keep gambling or are these acceptable rolls

it's a helbore

[quick shell]

pretty sure u dont want to be down ammo

[hearty echo]

430 ammunition is enough for my ammo goblin ass

ngl

but it isn't enhanced at all yet

soooooo do I gamble my life savings again or call it

[quick shell]

ppl nowdays dont know how good they have it with rolls

[hearty echo]

that's why I'm fucking asking dude 😭

well I'm glad I gambled

[deft tangle]

Probably i would sacrifice stopping power

[hollow ibex]

dump is stability or ammo for helbore

[hearty echo]

what

does that mean\

[hollow ibex]

a dump means you want the stat as low as possible

usually

so ammo or stability at 60, rest of the stats at 80

[hearty echo]

so it's not a good roll

fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

I'm bouta be 400k deep in gambling on these helbores dude

😔

someone take me out back and blow my head off

[hollow ibex]

wait how

you should be able to get a good roll in like 10-20 weapons

[hearty echo]

I'm exaggerating

lol

but seriously I've gone about 100k+ dockets in gambling and it's taking my sanity away

I'm about to just call it and keep this one cuz

yea

[distant plaza]

inb4 the next armory rotation has a 60 stab helbore waiting for you

[hearty echo]

oh shit I understand what the numbers mean now

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

[ancient path]

smoke is avery interesting grenade

[ancient path]

im a recently converted helbore fan. gun is a lot of fun

[stuck gorge]

Helbore is fun I just can’t aim

[lean heron]

does someone have a 25pt talent tree build for melee?

[narrow yacht]

i have one of those too but i'm not trying to use only one weapon type on the way leveling up

[ancient path]

does anyone actually use fire team

[narrow frost]

ye

its free damage

[thorny egret]

I like it

[unreal nova]

If you take it, stop spamming I need ammo the entire match.

[ancient path]

im using a helbore and inf las 😔

hows blood letter on chainswords

[unreal nova]

Naw, is more avg pub going greedy and avoiding survivalist on bolter/plasma/revolver/recon and then constantly crying for ammo.

That 7.5% damage on an empty bolter does work, right?

[ancient path]

yeah.... on its bash special

[narrow yacht]

my last mission i ran recon with survivalist and i was the only person picking up ammo because survivalist was keeping the other 3 in white ammo

[unreal nova]

And yes, they don't know melee.

[unreal nova]

That's also the bonus. People can't loot ammo if full. Most skip if 1-5 bullets missing.

[narrow yacht]

nothing will ever take me off maining ogryn but i'm actually having fun on vet for the first time since the game released

[unreal nova]

Who da thunk removing some taxes and making them innate would make things a little better, right?

Also, better pathing.

[primal zealot]

same. i played a few rounds last night with knife n plasma n it felt rly good

[narrow yacht]

i'm using pmaul and recon lasgun/vigilant autogun

[dry sparrow]

Which mission in the easiest to do the On Overwatch (take no melee dmg) penance?

[narrow frost]

train

its a quick mission

[dry sparrow]

ok thx

[unreal nova]

Asking someone to carry you while you ledge yourself and die by falling. Otherwise, any no minigame missions or battery escort if you can't trust ppl to do it.

[thorny egret]

I got it just playing lol, I didn't try

[dry sparrow]

kk

[humble drum]

What are good blessings for the plasma gun?

[hearty echo]

the soup gun is automatically good but lemme go look rq

[humble drum]

Haven’t played much with that weapon, gonna try it some games

Been hellbore fan

[calm shard]

rising heat, gets hot

[hearty echo]

yea I'd do that honestly

[humble drum]

Thanks, gonna make a weap specialist build I guess

[hearty echo]

W specialist

[humble drum]

I could use the combat axe maybe with it, been using the shovel on the hellbore build so don’t want to do the same

It’s lackluster vs crushers I find though

[hearty echo]

you should try out the dueling sword for a game and see how it fares

[hearty echo]

that's what krak grenades are for 👍

[humble drum]

Dueling sword is kinda cookie cutter no?

[hearty echo]

wym by that

[humble drum]

It’s the weap all the vets use

[unreal nova]

Crit as heat grows and str as heat grows. Forgot names.

[hearty echo]

I have not seen a vet use dueling sword in a long while

nor have I really encountered a veteran

we are a dying breed

😔

[unreal nova]

Is safe and can deal with armour.

[silk elbow]

I have just had 4 rounds in a row where I was playing vet and my teammates were all vets

[hearty echo]

mfw I don't read

I haven't

[unreal nova]

Difficulty matters.

[hearty echo]

you have

[silk elbow]

ment to reply to the dying breed one, very sorry

[hearty echo]

dw I'm jus messing with you

:)

not tryna be a dickhead

[unreal nova]

You see more vets in lower diffs from my playing around.

[hearty echo]

yeah

[humble drum]

Gonna use smoke nades for the penances

[silk elbow]

you know what, no more crack with your kraks

[hearty echo]

I will always remember the most chill vet I ever met was a random

[narrow yacht]

apparently i broke rockstar's terms of service yesterday and my gta account i haven't played since christmas eve is suspended and reset so that's cool i guess

[hearty echo]

his name was Skodi and he was repping the Harakoni Warhawks

used dueling sword and helbore

played passive with my ogryn and I to systematically deal wit hordes tactically

I loved that guy

I'll name my firstborne after Skodi

[unreal nova]

Maybe someone got access.

[silk elbow]

anyways im gonna go back to trying to figure out why the fuck I have this weird sprinting looking effect constantly on my screen

step 1 is im gonna literally just turn off every mod and see if that does literally anything

[hearty echo]

that usually works

[silk elbow]

nope

still there

[hearty echo]

imagine

[silk elbow]

I've already closed and opened the game

[calm shard]

did you turn motion blur off

[hearty echo]

did you update your drivers 🤓

[narrow yacht]

probably but whatever the reason it's pretty damned annoying having to put in an appeal for something i didn't do

[silk elbow]

imma try just like, removing talent points maybe

oh

[narrow yacht]

but also i have 2fa set up and no email about soneone trying to get into the account

[silk elbow]

its focus target

why the fuck does focus target do that

[calm shard]

oh you mean the vfx for focus target being at max stacks

[livid fractal]

anyone got a build for plasma gun / psword vet

[calm shard]

Marksman's Focus will do it at 10+ stacks too

[silk elbow]

yah, its annoying

I want this shit gone

[calm shard]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/17

[unreal nova]

Can't help it. Bet you is to make you make a new one and rebuy.

[silk elbow]

praise by you

be*

[silk elbow]

uhhh, which one should I turn off?

is it veteran improved tag effect?

cause that did nothing

nvm, it worked
I just rebooted the meat grinder

[cloud reef]

what melee wep would u guys pair w recon lasgun?

[narrow frost]

Something with good horde clear and carapace damage

since recon doesn't do that very well

Power sword and the axes come to mind 1st

[cloud reef]

thx

[calm shard]

Mk XIV recon can horde clear decently

[primal zealot]

shooting any lasgun into a horde is worse than holding smite the entire mission

[tame lodge]

Well......yeah

[calm shard]

half a magazine for that lol

[primal zealot]

ok but that took forever

[grave hawk]

does any1 have that Bare minimum vet tree

the baseline

[faint beacon]

Check pinned

Should be in the guide

[calm shard]

can't post my clip of using psword on melee build in the same circumstance because it took too long xd

ouchies

granted I'm out of practice on the power sword from playing far too much scum

I could probably get it down to 30-ish seconds with practice

which would still be slower than me just unga bunga recon lasgun holding LMB into the horde

that I did on my first try taking zero damage and being at zero risk

[glacial beacon]

Sorry, I can't hear your booing over the sound of my lasgun firing.

[quick shell]

yeah ok i need to redownload fucking weap customisation bad

i need a scope again

[hearty echo]

2 bolter shots and that horde would have been gone

[ancient path]

i need to play this game more selfishly

me dying because im rezzing someone and theres 2 other teammates and i go "man i hope someone shoves that poxburster"

spoiler: they didnt

[narrow frost]

rule #1

dont trust your teammates

[ancient path]

i rez, shove, but poxbursters do the thing where they dont care about being shoved and explode kill you anyway

[ancient path]

flamer on top of us and it flamed when i was 80% done

so i finished

and went "please shove that poxburster"

[bleak tendon]

Rule #2 don’t trust yourself

[narrow frost]

#2 dont trust

[bleak tendon]

Only trust in that the silent poxburster WILL sneak up on you and it WILL kill you

[ancient path]

what infantry las gun do yall use

[tame lodge]

2b or not 2b

That's the question

[ancient path]

https://tenor.com/view/nier-automata-swagger-android-walking-animation-walk-gif-16557605

oh

theres a 2b

[wraith locust]

does flak get you any important breakpoint on the plasma in havoc

this is mostly vibe based but i feel like there are more cases where i dont oneshot maniac specialists like flamers

[narrow frost]

what do you think is flak in the head

[wraith locust]

the most relevant ones are scab gunners, both types of shotgunners and bombers

[hearty echo]

helbore

[wraith locust]

wait bombers are flak right

or are they maniac

[narrow frost]

Its only scab gunners and shotgunners

[wraith locust]

icic

[narrow frost]

shotgunners dont have much hp already

its really only scab gunners

and would you sacrifice speical 1 taps to kill gunners?

[wraith locust]

hm

the main thing im not one tapping is flamers

but flak is nice for the gunners

[calm shard]

the humble scab rager

[narrow frost]

forgot about them

I dont shoot scab ragers

[calm shard]

the loathsome dreg bruiser

[wraith locust]

the perk on the weapon you're holding doesnt affect nade damage right

[calm shard]

it does

[wraith locust]

huge

[ancient path]

i think i enjoy the helbore more than the infantry lasguns

but idk how the helbore plays w weapon specialist

[tame lodge]

Weirdly

[tropic tide]

@ivory kiln

[ivory kiln]

to each their own but some of that looks so clipping into other bits I'm not a fan

[tropic tide]

😄 my spearhead boltgun

[ivory kiln]

boltgun?

[tropic tide]

Oh its fugly, but yah, spearhead boltgun

[ivory kiln]

thast a lasgun thats had too many energy packs

[tropic tide]

😛 just be glad i cant bedazzle it

[ivory kiln]

glad thats just a mod

tech priests would crucify you for doing that to a bolter

[tropic tide]

A little less gaudy, my autogun

Oh if the marsy bois see any of my weapons, im getting posted to guard the inside of the nearest airlock

[ivory kiln]

thats reaching the territory of some of those necromunda guns that gangers make

[tropic tide]

really its just for the sights. Having access to all of teh sights that exist ingame, and being able to put them on anything is amazing

[quick seal]

how do I do the "kill dregs with ranged" melk bounty

idk what i'm doing wrong but it's not going up after I killed dregs at range. I googled it and it said it was bugged and there's no apparent fix, just people on the reddit and steam discussion pages and fatshark forums complaining about it

I played an entire mission and it didn't go up. Obviously the only conclusions are,

1. I never pulled out my gun
2. I never encountered any dreg enemies
3. the contract is bugged
   My hunch is the latter. How do I fix it. Help!

[distant plaza]

1. i reroll kills with range to something else, kills with melee is acceptable
2. campaign missions 1-4 are primarily scab, 5-8 dreg, so you can play those if you don't want to play the coin toss game of which faction is prevalent in a mission
3. teammate kills count

[quick seal]

I think it's straight up bugged

1. i reroll kills with range to something else, kills with melee is acceptable
   is it because range kills don't progress correctly and melee kills do?
   if you don't want to play the coin toss game of which faction is prevalent in a mission
   IDK how I progressed the first 536 but my most recent game, I find it difficult to believe that neither myself nor my teammates shot at dregs once. Like, even in campaign missions where it's predominantly scab, there's still some dreg ragers or some dreg specials that show up. I think it's bugged. Is there a recourse (other than to reroll it)? Like, it seems like it broke itself at 536. Given enough time, will it fix itself?

[distant plaza]

is it because range kills don't progress correctly and melee kills do?
no, i just tend to kill the majority of non-elite scab/dregs with melee
Is there a recourse (other than to reroll it)?
you could try one of the campaign missions 5-8 and shoot dregs 🤷
elite dregs that you probably shoot count towards it as well

[unreal nova]

Just shoot everything dreg, beg or ask others to do the same. It'll be quicker on certain servers and diffs.

[quick seal]

see above where I did all that and came to the conclusion it's bugged

[unreal nova]

If you roll a plasma, recon or bolter vet that shoots hordes.

Do note, what counts as ranged is... spicy.

If they died to burn, soulblaze, chem tox or bleed, you might not get a +1.

Best guarantee is to run no DoTs.

Like, try using a plasma in campaign mercantile and no care shoot everything at the first part.

Then try with a bleed or burn gun, you'll see a massive difference.

Is why I pull out the rashad on my Ganger without chem on crits when doing it.

[quick seal]

I think you're right. That is probably the issue—I'm running infernus. Every dreg must've died to fire stacks on that mission

[unreal nova]

Might be. The ticks go decently fast.

[quick seal]

Does the contract only go up when you successfully finish a mission?
If I am at 536/1000 and then shoot and kill a dreg, if I press tab, will it display 537/1000?
Or do I have to finish the level successfully for it to count, like some of the live events?
Or is it like other live events, if I fail the mission, it just forgets all the dregs I shot in that mission.

How do I tell if I'm "shooting dregs" correctly—can I press tab and check on the spot?

[unreal nova]

Naw, it ticks when you kill.

You can check on the fly.

[signal juniper]

there is a plasma gun in the requisitorium, level 500, 80 damage, 73 ammo, 70 thermal, 78 charge rate, 79 stopping power, i know its not optimal but what are your opinions, could be worth it?

[unreal nova]

I wouldn't bother.

If you have no funds, just dump thermal.

Heck, if it only karks thermal and charge rate, that's fine.

[signal juniper]

I guess, i already have a level 200 thermal dump but getting it to 500 is gonna cost me so much 😭

[stuck gorge]

Might as well just favorite it and build up resources for now

[signal juniper]

My main issue are those diamond cubes looking things

They are so hard to grind

[unreal nova]

Just save up for it. Check in the shops for possibly better. Then upgrade it.

[unreal nova]

Need to play damns for more of those.

They are rarer on lower diffs.

[faint beacon]

Bro Found a Unicorn

[signal juniper]

Ive been playing on heresy i guess i need to get higher difficulties

[faint beacon]

(Another unironic vigilant autogun Veteran)

[unreal nova]

Heresy is more plasteel. But is still best the diff you can win 95% of the time.

[signal juniper]

I play recon lasgun, thats my main build with the duelling sword, i shred thru missions

[signal juniper]

What difficulty is better for the diamond cubes thingies

[faint beacon]

Diamantine?

Damnation/Auric

[signal juniper]

Idk i forgor, the cubes used to level up the weapons

[unreal nova]

I told you, damns.

[faint beacon]

usually where you find the best loot pools as well anyways

[blazing jetty]

Damnation usually gives you ~200 diamantine each mission

[faint beacon]

See I would say

Havoc

[unreal nova]

Aurics might be too hard to loot if you aren't used to it.

[faint beacon]

but like- thats

yeah

lmao

[blazing jetty]

Main reason I hardly play havoc is that the party finder is an ass to use

[signal juniper]

Im comfortable with my current build on heresy, guess i can go to the next

[faint beacon]

I have a group to play Havoc with its more just I realize

not everyone is going to have that ease of access

[unreal nova]

Try a little, if you keep dying, drop down back and basically focus on honing mechanics and muscle memory more.

[blazing jetty]

Damnation isn't so bad outside of high-intensity modifiers

[unreal nova]

Like, 1 or 2 deaths is normal, but if you spend like 50% of the run down or dead, might not be ready

[signal juniper]

Yeah, ive just been leveling up this damn plasma gun / machine sword (whatever its called) build, its kinda hard to master but its fun

[unreal nova]

Could be hard for someone stepping up from heresy. Gotta think that way.

[unreal nova]

Machine sword? Power sword?

[calm shard]

couple arbitrator randoms saying the game is so easy with 2 arbitrators

me the veteran with over 200 elite kills

single handedly wiping every single gunner/rager swarm

[signal juniper]

The sword that you have to rev up

😭 im not good with names

[calm shard]

born leader exe on gunner seed and they say arbitrator just doesn't die

[unreal nova]

Err, chainsword? That's uhhh... not quite a good weapon. Big question, kraks?

[calm shard]

BOY I WONDER WHY

[signal juniper]

Kraks?

Im sorry this must be enfurating, i literally got into this game because i came from vermintide 2

[blazing jetty]

Krak grenades

[calm shard]

Chainsword is considered a low tier melee because it is extremely bad at killing crushers

[unreal nova]

Yeah, to deal with armoured. You aren't just shooting crushers, right?

[calm shard]

They're asking if you are using Krak grenades. The grenade that instantly kils them

[faint beacon]

No no you dont understand

[calm shard]

I mean I shoot crushers but like

[faint beacon]

we dont need the veteran cause Arby exists

[calm shard]

That's different

[faint beacon]

till they realize they cant kill the gunner spam

[signal juniper]

Oh yeah, i use kraks because the chainsword is ass at killing armored enemies

I was expecting well, a little more power tbh

[unreal nova]

That's fine then. Is why asked, would just stare if you said no.

Cos you know. Chainswords bleah.

Even funni shovel better.

[signal juniper]

With the build that i have, i get some fodder kills, pull out the plasma gun and i can snipe specials and other armored enemies, sometimes its a one shot with ogryns and others

[unreal nova]

You bulli ragers.

[unreal nova]

Weapon specialist?

Or pathing the left side?

[signal juniper]

Yeah and also a bunch of elite damage buffs

[unreal nova]

Or the cancer that is the fork.

Trying to path all three to some degree.

[signal juniper]

I have a bit of the three paths

But obvs all the way into weapon specialist

[unreal nova]

XD

Yeah, auto reload is nice.

You can also learn to sprint cancel reload.

Cuts the reload time by like a third.

[signal juniper]

Yeah, if not the chainsword then what else would be optimal

I dont want to repeat the duelling sword because its a differnet build

[unreal nova]

Power sword if you are okay with lower mobility, knoife but that's more defensive, shovel (mk 1 for more horde clear, mk3 to fold heavy crushers, 7 can do both, but I hate it.)... Technically, you should just try everything and see what you like.

Is always better when you use something you enjoy and is comfortable with.

[signal juniper]

I like the knoife, shovel is fun but i think it kills the aesthethic of my build

[unreal nova]

Oh, aesthetic. I uhh... have you seen a Commissar with a knoife?

[signal juniper]

Can i post pictures here?

[unreal nova]

Yeah, ppl do it here or driptide.

[signal juniper]

This is my main one, this pic was before i upgraded the rest of my stuff but i dont have the other pic of the other build cuz I forgor but yeah the other one looks more like a regular trooper

[unreal nova]

Commissar runs bistol only.

[signal juniper]

I wanted to get bolt pistol but i never got an optimal one and they all are ass

[unreal nova]

Collateral dump.

[signal juniper]

I know, i never managed to get one

[unreal nova]

Mobility dump also works.

[signal juniper]

Nah i like mobility

[unreal nova]

I use it for the new mark to just watch hordes flinch.

[signal juniper]

Also if i have to change to a bolter pistol im gonna have to change a lot, for now im good with this until i can find an optimal bolter and then level up mastery

[unreal nova]

I should mention I have 2 bistols on all chars that can get one.

Heh.

[signal juniper]

[unreal nova]

I like the statstick gun.

[signal juniper]

Good thing one of my drops was an optimal devil claw

Maybe I can replace the duelling sword with it on another build with the recon lasgun and then use the bistol in this one once I get around to getting an optimal one

Now you are gonna tell me devil claw is ass

[unreal nova]

It is. Same issues with chainsword but better/worse.

[signal juniper]

[unreal nova]

Has god parry, but that's about it.

[signal juniper]

Sigh

[unreal nova]

Is literally best defensive weapon but being defensive on higher diffs means you end up being pushed back.

You CAN parry overheads though.

And the parry is better than the DS version just lower damage.

[signal juniper]

Gonna have to get around to getting an optimal power sword then

[unreal nova]

Better is the uptime.

[unreal nova]

And then you hate it cos SLOW AS KARK.

[signal juniper]

[unreal nova]

Other than the special slash slash slash special slash slash slash special slash slash slash gameplay.

[signal juniper]

I'll see if i like it

If not then shovel should just fit perfectly

[unreal nova]

Is the best way, just try everything then come back to what you dislike to try again then pick.

Oh, the rashad is also good.

Combat axe.

[signal juniper]

I hate the combat axe

[unreal nova]

Just chop heads.

I prefer it on ganger though.

[tall torrent]

power sword

check pinned guide for more info

[calm shard]

https://fximgur.com/a/SCDpo9y

havin' a great time in auric randoms tonight

https://fximgur.com/a/Y1jHicJ same match a few minutes later

[broken jay]

Hello i need help with the adept assassin penance
how do you do it?

[analog mural]

It's pretty self explanatory no?

What part confuses you

[raw sky]

anyone have any success with Take A Swing on Mk1 (wooden) shovel?

admittedly have not tried very hard but i think it's really cool

[tall torrent]

it's meh

[raw sky]

keeping up in auric okay with thrust

wish i had some way to make it synergize a little more with the crit parts of weapons specialist

[tame lodge]

Take a Swing All or Nothing meta soon

🗣️

[calm shard]

one can only imagine

[junior grail]

I wonder if All or Nothing can work with Hive Scum Rampage

[analog mural]

I mean it works but you want to maintain high stamina for the attack speed