veteran-class

[tribal tinsel]

How's the, uh, sapper shovel?

[vale nova]

It's working fine I guess

I still need to understand how blessings work

[strange crow]

Mid asf

Only saving grace is getting two must-take blessings

[tribal tinsel]

Aw man, really?
I've heard IRL shovels make a remarkably effective weapon if they're built well.

[narrow widget]

you're a vet so you have access to smoke grenades
those pretty much disable the ranged twin's AI

[vale nova]

Wait we can change grenade?

[narrow widget]

have you not accessed the talent menu

[vale nova]

I have, following a guide

[strange crow]

Yeah in-game they have mid cleave and only good single-target damage thanks to being able to run uncanny and decimator at the same time

[hollow ibex]

the cleave on shovels is ok

they're just really dependant on powerful blessings

[tribal tinsel]

And you didn't notice the fourth row on the talent tree lets you change your blitz? Very odd.

[vale nova]

Ah I have got shredder grenade

[hollow ibex]

because the base damage numbers are not great

[narrow widget]

one of the choices you get to make is which grenade you get to use
shredder frags (an upgrade of your base grenade)
kraks (anti-armor)
and smokes

[tribal tinsel]

Anyway, yeah, shredder is good against chaff, smoke disables ranged units, krak grenades obliterate armored enemies.
(I'm not being hyperbolic in the slightest, krak grenades deal insane damage but have very high damage falloff)

[vale nova]

I remember krak grenade from SM2 😆

[strange crow]

Yeah I may have exaggerated a bit my b

[hollow ibex]

i want shovel buffs

[strange crow]

Fr

[vale nova]

Also how do you guys get better rarity weapon?

[tribal tinsel]

I agree

[narrow widget]

consecrate them at hadron

[proud jolt]

im on Ill need your friend code

[tribal tinsel]

Once you unlock Hadron, you can speak with her to consecrate your weapons.

Be warned she's a bit of a bitch but at least she's mostly professional

[vale nova]

Ok, it's 893015331

[narrow widget]

i will stand for NO hadron slander in this household

[grim dawn]

is voice of command still good ?

[narrow widget]

yes

bro its a shout ability when is it not going to be good

[vale nova]

Alright I'll try that

[grim dawn]

idk i havent played for a long time xd

[proud jolt]

it says the code is not long enough lol

[tribal tinsel]

Yes. Free toughness regen, knocks enemies away, can give gold toughness and can even pick up knocked down allies (though that increases its cooldown)

[vale nova]

Wait let me see 😆

[vale nova]

Ok send me yours cuz it's the same

[strange crow]

VoC still cracked and infiltrate still gets mogged by it but they made exe stance better and it now works with hybrid builds

[proud jolt]

2761964179

[grim dawn]

are those weapon still good ?

[strange crow]

Chainsword has unfortunately been mid for a long time

[narrow widget]

chainsword is not that good

plas gun is good tho

[grim dawn]

mmmh so what weapon should i get ?

[narrow widget]

run power sword 6 if you want the best

[vale nova]

Huh it's not showing any name. You can try the profile name, it's LordBeerus

[proud jolt]

is that your steam? or the game

[vale nova]

Steam name

[strange crow]

For plasma:

• you want to dump charge rate (the perfect roll of 69 thermal resist and 71 charge rate is nearly impossible to roll)
• perks are flak and either unarmored (for dreg bomber 1hs) or maniac
• blessings are gets hot and rising heat

[narrow widget]

nvm im dumb

[grim dawn]

are we allowed to post link ?

[narrow widget]

yea

[grim dawn]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/veteran-squad-leader

[narrow widget]

lol

[proud jolt]

oh were those numbers your steam code lol, I meant the ingame one

[grim dawn]

this ?

[proud jolt]

hhaha

i found it

[strange crow]

Nah you're not dumb you're just coming back from a tour behind the front lines

[thick flint]

anyone got a good infantry lasgun build?

[vale nova]

😆 now I get it

[proud jolt]

I sent my invite anyway on steam

[vale nova]

Done

[narrow widget]

when is this build finally going to be good 😭

[strange crow]

Just so you know, helbore is just a better infantry lasgun. It's more powerful and cheaper

[vale nova]

I'm using this build

Is it good?

[narrow widget]

it used to be shit but its getting better

not quite there yet

[proud jolt]

nice profile pic lol

[strange crow]

It's mid but no longer the running gag here on the server

[grim dawn]

do you have a link for a build ?

[strange crow]

#veteran-class message

Plasma and power sword build from our lord and savior path.exe

[proud jolt]

@vale nova hop online, Its not showing your name up

nvm

nmv

[vale nova]

Let's GOOO

[proud jolt]

time to lock in lol

imma turn off discord to make my game run better

[tall torrent]

What weapons

[narrow widget]

hi path

[strange crow]

I already sent him your plasma + power sword build lol my b

[tall torrent]

Vet build is usually some variation of this

[tall torrent]

U can drop right side’s 25 TGH as well, situationally

[strange crow]

hopefully you didn't make any further tweaks I missed

[vale nova]

Arbites looks something from Judge Dredd

[strange crow]

Also grenade tinkerer isn't necessary outside of havoc

[grim dawn]

ok and how do you roll weapon again

[strange crow]

Buy from brunt

[narrow widget]

go to the armory and hit brunts armory

[tall torrent]

Go to armory exchange, buy from brunt’s armory the weapon u want

Until u get stat roll (max potential) the way u want

Favourite the one u wanted

Sell the rest

Go to hadron

Consecrate x4

Change perks and blessings first

Then empower to 500

[strange crow]

Hey path, unrelated question: for columnus mk8 iag, what blessings/perks? Same as vraks?

[tall torrent]

Same

[strange crow]

Bet ty

And onslaught prob not worth for it right?

[grim dawn]

how does potential works again

smth like this ?

[strange crow]

As you consecrate a weapon, the five yellow stat bars increase until their max (denoted by the second percentage in the brackets and the faded yellow bar)

For power sword you want to dump cleave targets

Sadly not cleave damage

[grim dawn]

so this ?

[strange crow]

Yessir

U got it

Hype

[fierce arch]

what would people say are the current "meta" builds, after the hivescum update?

not that i care about meta but i wonder whats up there

currently thinking of various cool builds

[strange crow]

Same as before as far as I know:

[fierce arch]

how long ago was before? how many months

[strange crow]

Before being days before hivescum dropped

[fierce arch]

i mean what update was it before hivescum? i forgot

[strange crow]

1.9 released September 23

Was titled "Bound by Duty"

[grim dawn]

what does blessing not available means ?

do i need mastery ?

[heavy rover]

probably yeah

[strange crow]

One of the effects of leveling up mastery is earning more blessing points, which can be spent to unlock and upgrade blessings for a specific weapon

I'm guessing you have blessing points unlocked but just haven't used them

[grim dawn]

oh so i ahve to play with it i remember now

[heavy rover]

yeah

[grim dawn]

didnt we use to gamble before tho ?

[strange crow]

Yes thankfully that's gone

[tall torrent]

u want cleave targets at 60% max

[vale nova]

@proud jolt thx for the run

[livid hill]

pink got those navi proportions

[fading yarrow]

What do the event shrines do besides summoning bosses?

Do they progress the event tiers faster?

[fierce arch]

is it me or us thge shock maul like, super good.

[narrow frost]

its really good

decent damage across the board with a minor weakness to unyielding

amazing stagger too

with the 2nd best blessing in the game

Skullcrusher

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-steve-carell-laugh-good-one-banana-gif-4958026

[ocean idol]

why navi are like thast?

Would it not make sense for them to take smaller people?

same as for tanks

[fierce arch]

Do people use shock maul in havoc? I mostly see vets with combat knives, or some sort of rending build with chain swords or whatever

[narrow frost]

I do

[fierce arch]

Usually it’s the same invincible vet combat blade and krak spam or rapier boss builds. Idk

I am very much out of the loop, don’t destroy me with facts and logic lol

[fierce arch]

Is there any teir list or whatever on blessings or is there a “this is a shock maul use it” build

I imagine it’s all flexible tho. Since havoc has infected armour and once that’s rotated out Kraks won’t be as used

[narrow frost]

Skullcrusher + hammerblow

for talents its a versatile weapon

doenst need any talents to perform different

[livid hill]

so true

[tame lodge]

Considering the extra monstrosities in havoc
You better bring kraks if you're running Shock Maul

Because Shock Maul against monstrosities is 💀

[primal zealot]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a089d7ee-44a5-456a-a51b-417640b356a4/uhhhhh

chat is this good ?

[tame lodge]

No precision strikes

Trash

[primal zealot]

wait lol my actual build has it

[proud jolt]

pros would look at my build and cry

[woeful oxide]

same i feel like but i enjoy it and do good with it

[keen folio]

GIVE THEM THE OLD KARSKING DOUBLE TAP

[strange crow]

It's pretty good but a few subs I'd make:

• replace a toughness curio with 1 health curio
• replace longshot with one motion
• switch field improv for superiority complex

You can also regain some talent points to spend more efficiently elsewhere

• out for blood isn't necessary, you already have enough toughness regain and on your toes is better for that anyways
• always prepared isn't necessary if you've got the hang of plasma
• grenadier isn't too helpful for kraks
• if you're not playing havoc, you don't need grenade tinkerer either

[fierce arch]

That just makes it good against ragers and crushers right? Doesn’t perform any different with hordes at all? Get has like a bunch of kraks

[narrow frost]

not many ways to improve horde clear outside the obvious attack speed increase from talents

Shredder nades help

[strange crow]

@primal zealot With the 3 points saved from out for blood, always prepared, and grenadier, you can get precision strikes and agile engagement

[fierce arch]

I’m just wondering how to improve the shock maul better ig

Is there anyway to make it super mega good, outside ig swing speed

Celerity stim would be goated I imagine

As well as maybe red stim

[primal zealot]

shock maul is just peak mid tbh. not much can be done about it

[fierce arch]

Peak mid?

[primal zealot]

yea its mid

its the absolute peak of being mid

profoundly mid

[hollow ibex]

would say it's a bit below mid tbh

[fair shale]

Agreed tbh

[fierce arch]

So like what are the best vet melee?

[fair shale]

Power Sword

[hollow ibex]

i value melees that have actual unyielding damage

[fierce arch]

The shock maul felt better to use than the knife does, for me ig

[strange crow]

Power sword and its not even close

[hollow ibex]

knife has like 0 horde control

so maybe that's why

[fierce arch]

I mean yeah for boss damage maybe

[strange crow]

And horde clear

[hollow ibex]

psword is extremely good at everything

[strange crow]

And adm

[fierce arch]

Idk I felt knife was really good with hoards, mainly for its swing speed.

[hollow ibex]

boss damage, mixed hordes, elites

well it's terrible at dodging

that's the one bad thing

[strange crow]

Knife is nowehere close to horde clear of power sword

[hollow ibex]

the horde clear is good, but you don't stagger them

[fair shale]

Power Sword removes everything infront of me

Boss? Gone

Horde? Gone

Crushers? 2 tapped.

[fierce arch]

Maybe I haven’t yet expierence what it feels like to be rushed by like, 20 crushers yet

I usually rock with knife but recently I wanted to get all penances done on my vet, and all masteries done

I have 1 penance left to go on vet

[fair shale]

If you like knife you might like Tac Axe tbh

It feels like a knife but better for hordes

[strange crow]

And it doesn't need trench fighter

1 extra talent point

[fierce arch]

I mean mayhe, I just used to rock knife since I mainly stuck with like, 1 particular build with stub revolver and knife. Felt pretty speedy

[proud jolt]

Unc had a darktide video with it, its nuts, its like a wall of metal

HOLY SHIT IM PROMOTED TO CONVICT

WOAH

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-warhammer-40k-cat-lick-gif-10144758042871786903

https://tenor.com/view/neebs-promoted-yeah-yay-bff-gif-11512732

i can finally show my pics

[spark iron]

Absolutely love whenever the portraits glitch out because this is all I can see

[robust herald]

what's a good vet build for if you cba to tag specialists?

[primal zealot]

does knife rly need trench fighter tho ?

[strange crow]

Without trench fighter it def doesn't feel as good as compromises your dps

[fresh thistle]

personal opinion switch the vets smoke grenades out for the rad grenades

[versed mural]

Honestly I’ve been running the knife lately and I really enjoy it

[remote sonnet]

It is still one of the strongest non class specific weapon.

[versed mural]

Yeah, I know it’s a bit of an odd way of playing with it, but I run uncanny strike and then the blessing that gives you strength on weak spot hit-I figure that since strength gives you cleave, that will help with horde clear since I’m using the mark that has the horizontal slash on heavy 2. It seems to work quite well honestly

I’m not saying it’s “meta” or recommending it necessarily, it’s just something I’m trying out. I played with the power sword for a long time but the dodge is rough, even with 80 mobility

[versed mural]

I like the shock maul a lot, actually. It has something like 95% damage into carapace, and with thrust the horde clear is quite good. Light/heavy alternating gives you a nice side to side sweep

[versed mural]

Why? I’m not gonna lie, it gets a bit irritating coming on here and having people say “X is mid” and then just not elaborating on it

[fierce arch]

thats what im saying shit doesnt make any sense

[mystic lodge]

Darktide is mid 😎

[fierce arch]

and for the mase to be super good at killing crushers and carapace then like, why is it mid teir

[hollow ibex]

the horde clear is mid, the single target is mid, the unyielding damage is horrid

[fierce arch]

i swear people look at a weapon and be like "erm, this doesnt kill literally everything in the game, mid."

[fresh thistle]

your mom is mid

[fierce arch]

"this weapon doesnt kill nurgle and give me a orgasum in the same combo, weapon mid"

[fair shale]

By comparison to other options available its mid

Like

How else are you supposed to quantify what's good and what isn't?

[hollow ibex]

sorry but calling the smaul mid is like the least controversial opinion to have on this server

[versed mural]

How so?

[versed mural]

Quantify it

[fair shale]

.

[hollow ibex]

it's not something i have to explain

[fair shale]

You already got your answer

[fierce arch]

bruh

[hollow ibex]

most people just know lol

[versed mural]

The single target seems fine, honestly

[hollow ibex]

it's passable

[fair shale]

It is fine, serviceable.

[hollow ibex]

until unyielding shows up

[fair shale]

That doesn't make it great.

[hollow ibex]

then it's fucking garbage

unyielding falls into the ST category

[versed mural]

Why not? Someone asked you a question, explain your answer. I don’t think that’s unreasonable

[hollow ibex]

i elaborated above

didn't i?

sometimes people don't care why something is mid

they just w ant the strognest weapon

[versed mural]

You did, yeah. Thank you, that’s all I’m asking for

[hollow ibex]

so if i tell them something is mid, they just move on

[distant plaza]

if you want to quantify it, go grab that datatide mod that reginald uses and get data to compare weapons at your skill level

[fierce arch]

some of these people have the communications skills of a rock

[versed mural]

Use what you like and figure things out for yourself. That’s what I’ve been doing and I’ve been having a great time with this game. If you want the super meta combination, run the plasma gun and the dueling sword. People will optimize all the fun out of a game, I swear

[mystic lodge]

Guys, its mid, not bad

[hollow ibex]

chill out

[versed mural]

You’re right, honestly, I don’t know why I bothered asking

[hollow ibex]

i don't get the weird hostility over this lol

[fair shale]

Ask question

[distant plaza]

then again, i've seen people make weapons like the smaul, chaxe, chord, etc, work so 🤷

[fair shale]

Get answer you don't like

"These people suck"

[versed mural]

It’s not the answer ffs. It’s the condescension and refusal to explain reasoning

[proud jolt]

https://youtu.be/6LiVXp2lYAw?si=5XFT-QlgBq6f8v9z

[hollow ibex]

yeah there's freaks making even the shovel work

[fair shale]

Cept you got an explanation.

[distant plaza]

would you say the shovel is mid? 👀

[hollow ibex]

prob a bit above average

but i'm biased

i really hate melee with poor unyielding

[fair shale]

Shovel defo better than at least shock maul

[hollow ibex]

a lot of people just like shovel for the THUNK

[hollow ibex]

yeah definitely

[fair shale]

It's not Power Sword tho, the metric by which all things are measured

[proud jolt]

I make the shovek work

for my Krieger

[fair shale]

I think shovel is solidly A tier tbh

Safe

Reliable

[hollow ibex]

mk3 shovel my beloved

[versed mural]

Sirosky gave a half sentence description that boiled down to “it’s bad against one kind of enemy and mid against anything else.”
No numbers, no metrics, no nothing. Sorry, but I’ll pass.

I’m done, fuck this. I have no idea why I even bothered asking

[fierce arch]

like i said, brains as smooth as a whetstone

[hollow ibex]

what

[versed mural]

I’m going to go actually play the fucking game

[fair shale]

Ask question

Dont like answer you get

Get angry

[hollow ibex]

getting so upset after you get help

fuck off

[hollow ibex]

cunt

[versed mural]

No, you fuck off, dickhead

[hollow ibex]

like all of this was totally uncalled for

you wanted an assessment on how a weapon performs

i gave it to you

[hollow ibex]

and now you want exact dps numbers???

test it yourself

[versed mural]

Buh-bye, cocksucker

[hollow ibex]

i'm not going to have this shit memorized off the top of my head

[cloud thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[fierce arch]

real tbh

[hollow ibex]

and then we have this cunt right here adding nothing to the conversation except insults

[mystic lodge]

Dude, you expected him to have an excel spreadsheet ready with testing methodologies and shit?

[hollow ibex]

actual NPC behavior lol

[hybrid flame]

[fair shale]

Regrettably you're gonna have to try harder than that to bait me man, unlike you who I can just say "ask question, get answer, get angry about answer" to

[cloud thunder]

That’s what a true veteran would do

[fierce arch]

"erm, mid not as good as powersword" and you wanna call me an npc lmao

[cloud thunder]

Fucking imposters

[fierce arch]

thats fine, whatever

[cloud thunder]

[hollow ibex]

am i wrong?

on any of those accounts?

[fierce arch]

you could have elaborated but nah

anyways idc anymore, something more important

[fair shale]

Thats why you keep typing

[hollow ibex]

@fierce arch is a NPC ✅
shock maul is mid ✅
PS is better than shock maul ✅

looks like i'm right on all three accounts

everything checks out

[proud jolt]

The game has the numbers of its damage in game, just go to the weapon and look at its numbers

[hollow ibex]

except i did

and you were still being a dickwad for no discernible reason

other than the fact that you couldn't handle the truth

that smaul is mid af

grow up

[fierce arch]

I have unlocked all the penances for veteran, lets goooo

[fierce arch]

notice how you're the only one still on this topic?

lmao

[hollow ibex]

incredible, that much time on vet, still totally clueless.

[faint beacon]

Fuck kinda crash out did I miss in here

[fierce arch]

redditpill behaviour

[faint beacon]

Lmao

[hollow ibex]

two guys coping when i told them smaul was mid

[faint beacon]

It’s unfortunately mid

[fair shale]

Yup

[hollow ibex]

and didn't immediately have an excel sheet with ttk statistics to present to them

[fierce arch]

who tf is coping lmao

[hollow ibex]

and explain why the smaul is mid

[fierce arch]

bro i didnt even ask for any statistics that was the other guy

[hollow ibex]

no you didn't ask for anything. you were just slinging insults the entire time

[fierce arch]

stop throthing at the mouth over this discord and "chill out" lmao

[hollow ibex]

when i responded to the other guy

[hollow ibex]

says the guy who stooped to mudslinging right off the bat lol

don't dish it if you can't take it

actually pathetic

[fierce arch]

bro i took it fine, you're the one arguing over it

[fierce arch]

🪞

[hollow ibex]

you took it fine, as in you started immediately using insults for no reason

i feel bad for all the people around you

[fierce arch]

lmao

this is sad \

wjhatever anyways

[strange crow]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-spider-man-web-of-shadows-depressed-sad-gif-16524395

[fair shale]

Seething so hard they can't even type right

[proud jolt]

anyway, I want this fit anyone else

[hollow ibex]

i wasn't even talking to him and he just starts insulting me for answering the guy that asked the question

[fair shale]

Id take that big ass sword tbh

[fierce arch]

isnt that just a powersword

[mystic lodge]

heavy power falchion

[strange crow]

I got the actual steel legion cosmetics (not the bum fit they made shortly after the game's release) so I'm all set

[faint beacon]

Can we collectively gaslight everyone into thinking the Tac Axe is bad again

Thanks

[fair shale]

Two handed at the very least.

We only have a small PS.

[fierce arch]

its got that thing on the middle isnt that a powersword

[fair shale]

You don't have to tbh, Tac Axe is a kinda special snowflake weapon.

[proud jolt]

i have the steel legion fit aswell

[fair shale]

Is the fuckin snake eater remake locked to 60 fps

[hollow ibex]

only perfectionist thinks that

[faint beacon]

You’d be surprised

[fair shale]

Most likely, yeah.

[strange crow]

Impeccable taste good sir

[faint beacon]

How many of my friends

I’ve had to tell Taxe is good

[hollow ibex]

people who don't follow the game actively

prob think it's still bad tbf

[robust herald]

honestly after seeing a vet drop a high specialist kill count with a shredder autopistol I don't know what the fuck is good or bad anymore, or what those two words even mean. let alone mid or mediocre

[hollow ibex]

SAP's good

mini vraks

[mystic lodge]

Its better than Smaul

[fair shale]

I remember when SAP was literally the best gun in the game tbh

[proud jolt]

my favorite fit is I have an cadian gaurd armor

[faint beacon]

Way fucking better than Smaul

[pine plume]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

The only things good or bad are players

[fair shale]

Nah man the devils claw is defacto bad

[faint beacon]

It’s weird because it seems bad but when you learn how to use the Tac Axe it can pull Rashad level bullshit

[hollow ibex]

mk 7's ok

[fair shale]

Ain't no redeeming qualities on that mf

[hollow ibex]

usable at least

[faint beacon]

Unless you’re Hive Scum

With Rampage Adren

[mystic lodge]

No

Dclaw is mid

[faint beacon]

Then it goes from shit to actually playable

[fair shale]

Hive Scum with so much rending it forces DC into viability

[hollow ibex]

tbf that's one of those combos that can make any melee weapon in the game work lol

hell adren even by itself

[faint beacon]

Nukes H40 bosses

[hollow ibex]

is very powerful

[faint beacon]

Teehee

[fierce arch]

idk, i feel like mentioning rampage is weird because rampage has alot of bugs with it. like some of your talents arent even triggering when they're supposed to with rampage

[fair shale]

When it had a niche as a parry stick I'd have agreed but they gave that to DS

[mystic lodge]

It can still parry

so its not bad

[fierce arch]

hivescum is one of those "wait and see" classes rn, at least when fatshark gets back from holiday vacay

[fair shale]

Yeah, I'm saying that it's not unique anymore and that was the use case for it

[fair shale]

Hive scum is incredibly good rn

[mystic lodge]

Dclaw my beloved

[faint beacon]

HS is unironically incredible

[fierce arch]

ehhh...

[faint beacon]

It’s just balanced out by the filter known as

[mystic lodge]

heavy sword?

[faint beacon]

Survivability via movement

[fair shale]

You don't have to believe me but I've been playing tide games since vt1

[faint beacon]

Hive Scum

[fair shale]

Scum is genuinely incredible if you know how to move.

[mystic lodge]

ah aight

[faint beacon]

Honestly I’m gonna say HSw for Heavy Sword

[fierce arch]

yeah obv but thats not all the problems with it

[proud jolt]

https://youtu.be/iuHBgwdZq3U?si=LnZu3CAzAQRKuqNs vibing to this rn

[cloud thunder]

Hive scum is giga busted in a good player’s hands. In the average player’s hands , you’re floor POV

[fair shale]

It's perfect

[robust herald]

it really is, I've been avoiding the scum chat because just so many bad, horrible takes on the class there

[faint beacon]

Speaking of HSw on Rampage Adren is fucking insane

Literally nuke carapace

[tepid panther]

What blessings for Vraks IAG?

[faint beacon]

With the weapon

[hollow ibex]

i still need to try that

[faint beacon]

THATS BAD AT CARAPACE

[cloud thunder]

Gotta be like top 10-20% to play HS tbh skill wise

[faint beacon]

lmao

[pine plume]

Fatshark managed the impossible, they made a dlc class that actually requires you to play the game

[hollow ibex]

dumdum fire frenzy i'd say

[pine plume]

Never before seen

[robust herald]

dumdum fire frenzy

[faint beacon]

Pre-Buff psyker

[fierce arch]

dude im so happy i got all the penances with vet

[faint beacon]

If you played pre buff psyker you can probably play HS

[tepid panther]

Thank you, and what perks would you recommend?

[hollow ibex]

unyielding + crit chance

[cloud thunder]

Psyker was my main for a long time until Arbites

[mystic lodge]

Hive Scum is the "Let him cook" class: Its either doggypose or John Woo movie protagonist

[cloud thunder]

Then now HS is my new main

[faint beacon]

Holy truth nuke

[robust herald]

flak or unyielding and crit chance

[hollow ibex]

they prob should've led with HIV

[fair shale]

Nah tbh

[cloud thunder]

Nah

[fair shale]

I like watching the arb mains get skill diffed

[mystic lodge]

dumdum and deathspitter

[robust herald]

I like unyielding and crit chance more

[hollow ibex]

starting with arbites conditioned a lot of people to play like morons

[cloud thunder]

It would have been badly balanced if they had it at start

[faint beacon]

Basically if you’re used to having your HP get nuked from one mess up then yeah youll like it but the class is incredible

[faint beacon]

Ogryn with Mobility

This was bound to happen

[hollow ibex]

this implies that fatshart learns from their mistakes...

[robust herald]

okay so for me, despite being an arbi main, I have been no diffing AMs on scumbag with barely any issue

[faint beacon]

Ogryn is weird cause like

You have abysmal dogshit

[cloud thunder]

I mean I feel like all the classes in a good spot now tbh

[faint beacon]

Or silent gods

[fair shale]

Well god bless you in particular man cause that's a rarity.

[hollow ibex]

ehhhh

[faint beacon]

Nothing in between

[robust herald]

it seems so

[cloud thunder]

Better than launch

That’s for sure

[tepid panther]

Appreciate the help, thank you everyone.

[robust herald]

ngl tho I did have a bumpy ride with leveling the class lmao

[fair shale]

Why is snake eater max fps 60

I'm gonna kms

[robust herald]

I think that’s a common thing ppl had with scumbag tho regardless of class background

[cloud thunder]

Was smooth for me. My leveling experience went from “hanging in the back then hanging in the middle then being the very front now”

[fading vortex]

Can someone give me a reliable tier list for ranged weapons?

[cloud thunder]

I also maxed out my weapons at level 1 so that helped

[fair shale]

There are very few bad ones depending on your build.

[proud jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-marching-warhammer40k-krieg-death-korps-of-krieg-marching-soldiers-marching-gif-26655156

me when I saw the new mission

[fading vortex]

I've got a Focus Target type skilltree. Just wanted to know what ranged guns people are using meta wise

[fair shale]

Helbore(variant up to taste) and Plasma are real standard good weapons tbh.

Combat Shotgun on vet is great, I like it with weapon specialist or focus target.

Revolver(aim down sights not hipfire) is great on vet rn

[faint beacon]

Vigilants…

[proud jolt]

helbore smacks, love it

[fair shale]

You've got the ever consistent Vraks IAG

[fair shale]

3 round burst vigilant autogun is goated atm

[faint beacon]

They require specific talents however but are incredible if you can aim at heads

[proud jolt]

I never cared for any of the autoguns

[robust herald]

is the Helbore Lasgun a full auto? I saw its mag capacity and was like "that can't be right for a semi automatic gun" but it looks like a ww1 weapon

[faint beacon]

Columnus III Vigilant Autogun

There’s also Graia VII

[fair shale]

Its a charge single shot like plasma

[proud jolt]

no it has charge up shots and hits hard more like a musket

[faint beacon]

and Agrippinna IX

[robust herald]

that sounds really nice actually

I might try that

[proud jolt]

do

[robust herald]

I'm stuck between the plasma gun and helbore now

[proud jolt]

it can HIT HARD

[tepid panther]

Is the best place to save builds, GL? For when the game updates?

[fair shale]

Helbore is imo better than plasma if you can aim

[faint beacon]

If you want something that dumpsters enemies use the Mark IV

[robust herald]

I like the plasma gun's feel but it's too chunky for my tastes

[faint beacon]

Also take Shocktrooper

Inf ammo lmao

[robust herald]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[proud jolt]

you can get shittons of ammo on your helbore the plasma will run out quick and overheats

[fair shale]

Sure, I can't think of a better one.

[robust herald]

oohhh

I might do helbore then

what keystone do yall take for helbore

[fierce arch]

so, is it possible to get an 80 alls for the autopistol? whats the best dumpstat for grinding them

[fair shale]

Mobility

[robust herald]

I dont know if I wanna do the middle since I cba in tagging enemies all the time for damage bonuses

[fierce arch]

even for hivescum tho?

[robust herald]

so is it like it consumes more ammo the longer you charge

that sounds really fun actually

also it'll fit with my Krieger

[fair shale]

Are you talking about scums autopistol or the shredder

[fair shale]

Scum you dump mobi or collat

Shredder you dump mobi

[faint beacon]

Yeah that’s Helbys whole gimmick

[proud jolt]

yea

[fierce arch]

the HS dual autopistol

[faint beacon]

You want to fire charged shots more

[robust herald]

cuz I believe helbore is what Kriegers use

[faint beacon]

Correct

[fair shale]

Mobi or Collat, personal preference.

[proud jolt]

yep

[faint beacon]

That’s their iconic rifle

[robust herald]

coooolll

[leaden condor]

Is stability the dump stat for helbore?

[fair shale]

Iirc yes

[leaden condor]

Nice

[robust herald]

okay I'll max out helbore when I get to it then

[proud jolt]

me

[faint beacon]

Anyways for note taking if you want a rifle that’s basically a cannon

[fierce arch]

alr well i just rolled the "godroll"? from brunt, so neat

[robust herald]

I'm gonna grind to damnation and then just power level with karnak twins to 30

[leaden condor]

I didn't find out how stat spreads worked till the other day but I've just gone and looked at my hellbore and stability is 62%

[upper dock]

After playing scum so much I realize now how quick this dude can blow through ammo. I feel like I am always scrounging ammo

[faint beacon]

@robust herald

Mark IV Helbore

Blessings: Surgical + Weight of Fire

Perks: 25% Carapace + 25% Unyielding

[proud jolt]

oh this is just a random one lol

[robust herald]

carapace???

can it kill carapace?

[proud jolt]

sabaton just came on, Im so in killing mood

[faint beacon]

Literally kills everything aside from like bosses and crushers

Yeah it nukes crusher HP on charged headshot lmao

[fair shale]

And for those? Glorious power sword.

[robust herald]

lol

[leaden condor]

What's the difference betwee mk3 and mk5?

[robust herald]

I was actually thinking about running krieg fit with power sword and helbore lasgun

[proud jolt]

@robust herald https://youtu.be/FCQd-5eYn2U

[robust herald]

how good is the power sword on vet

[faint beacon]

MkIII is good middle of the road

MkV is gimmicky

[leaden condor]

What's mk5 do then

[faint beacon]

Sirosky iirc has a charged shot spam build with it

But it’s the worst of the variants

[ancient path]

leveling up hivescum makes me really miss playing vet/having a good vet around. killing every disabler before they even get to the team is nice

[proud jolt]

I like the new power falchion

[fair shale]

Its vets best melee weapon by a country mile.

[robust herald]

oooh

[faint beacon]

It’s the best melee in game Tbf

But I recommend

[fair shale]

Yeah

[leaden condor]

I tried the mk4 for a bit but didn't like its version of the bayonet

[faint beacon]

ESPECIALLY WITH HELBORE

[robust herald]

I'd hope the power sword is the best, it's the power sword

[fair shale]

The only thing comparable is like, FGS.

[faint beacon]

bring something lighter

[ancient path]

all krump squads and its a free for all on whose getting trapper netted sometimes

[proud jolt]

also you get a bayonet

[robust herald]

what's the dump again? stability?

[faint beacon]

Tac Axe, Combat Axe, Shovel, Falchion if you hate yourself like me

[proud jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/bayonet-warhammer40k-death-korps-of-krieg-equip-bayonet-i-make-ready-gif-26550076

[faint beacon]

Correct

[robust herald]

can it cut through trash mobs?

[proud jolt]

yes

[fair shale]

Pop desperado and murder them, idk

[robust herald]

awesomeee

[leaden condor]

The bayonet is very good in a pinch since you don't want to switch off the helbore if you can help it since it's slow to switch back to

[robust herald]

alright y'all convinced me

[proud jolt]

if you hold the button you do a bayonet charge

[robust herald]

I'm investing in the helbore

and the power sword

[leaden condor]

Wait you can??

[ancient path]

playing box because everyone plays desperato and no one has crusher kills

[proud jolt]

run and hold button

[leaden condor]

With all marks?

[ancient path]

unless i come across someone w zerker + knives

[proud jolt]

not all I think

I think one you gun butt

[leaden condor]

All of them have a bayonet but the mk4 does a weird chop instead of a stabby

[faint beacon]

In my opinion especially if you’re adjusting to the games movement pick up something neutral or light in movement cause admittedly yes Power Sword is insane but fuck ups are costly on it

[robust herald]

I'm pretty comfortable with the game's movement so far I feel

[fair shale]

Power sword does have a skill curve to using it tbh

[leaden condor]

I don't like the power sword

[ancient path]

desperado uzis is definitely the most common played scum so you hit crusher/carapace walls and im happy to fill that void

[leaden condor]

It's janky

[fair shale]

It functions a little different to most melees

[robust herald]

how so

[fair shale]

Its slow and clunky

[fair shale]

You gotta turn it on

[leaden condor]

The special mechanic is jank

You have to constantly be charging it

[fair shale]

Where a lot of other melees dodge, PS wants to swing ime

[robust herald]

is that so..

is it like

FGS

[fair shale]

It has a different sort of flow to it

[robust herald]

cuz I have lots of experience with FGS

[fair shale]

Nah, FGS is way more automatic

You legit have to repower PS every 3 swings

[robust herald]

makes sense

[leaden condor]

I thought it lost the charge after its first swing

[robust herald]

what are some good sub outs for PS?

[leaden condor]

Like the power maul and whatnot

[fair shale]

Level 4 Power Cycler is 3 swings

It used to be 7

Those were the days

[fair shale]

Shovel is safe and reliable while you're learning tbh.

[robust herald]

krieg shovel..

[leaden condor]

I like the shovel

[robust herald]

I've been using rashad and that's been fine

[faint beacon]

Tac Axe, Shovel (it’s okay not the best nor worst), Combat axe specifically Rashad

[leaden condor]

It has the same sort of mechanic as power sword but its special is used for different things from the normal attack so you don't really need to spam it as much

[fair shale]

Rashad just works

[robust herald]

yeah

rashad isn't like

[fair shale]

Its one of the most just works weapons in game

[robust herald]

hard to use

[faint beacon]

Rashad is literally

[robust herald]

or wtvr

[faint beacon]

Oh no

[fair shale]

Things boring as fuck tho if I'm honest

[robust herald]

you just spam heavy and it's easy

[faint beacon]

It’s one of the easiest to pick up

[robust herald]

yeahh

[faint beacon]

Light spam into hordes

Heavy into single targets

Push attack if ragers

[robust herald]

yea

[leaden condor]

I am partial to the shock maul

[fair shale]

It Just Works™

[robust herald]

it's kinda boring for me tho tbh

[faint beacon]

Tac Axe is literally what if we took the Rashad

Right

[hollow ibex]

falch's actually ok on some builds

[faint beacon]

Made it smaller

Deal a bit less damage and have a cleave cap

[fair shale]

Tac Axe is Rashad but fun

[faint beacon]

But give it knife mobility

You know

[robust herald]

does sound fun...

[faint beacon]

The best in the game

[leaden condor]

Taxe

[faint beacon]

Can also stagger ragers and mutants like the Combat axes

Tac Axe propaganda WILL be spread by me

[robust herald]

idk if I'm looking for something super mobile tho

[fair shale]

Mobility is good tbh

[faint beacon]

Helby is a heavy weapon like Plasma

Trust me

Youll want it/appreciate it

That’s my like go too sniper build in Havoc 40

[robust herald]

I see

[hollow ibex]

for helbore side arm i go between taxe and falch

[leaden condor]

I tried plasma a couple times

[faint beacon]

Helby IV + Tac Axe

[leaden condor]

It felt like doodoofart

[hollow ibex]

falch's pretty decent as a sidearm

[faint beacon]

Falchion is potential man

[hollow ibex]

given that you'll be using the gun most of the time

[faint beacon]

I really hate to say it

[robust herald]

so what keystone do you guys like for vet? I think I wanna take the right branch

[faint beacon]

Meet Potential Melee!

[hollow ibex]

WS>MMF>>FT

[faint beacon]

Hey

[robust herald]

because tagging specials seems like something I cba in doing all the time

[proud jolt]

lucuis shotgun I WANT

[faint beacon]

Don’t talk shit about Focus Target

[hollow ibex]

what do you even take FT for lol

i don't have a single build that uses FT at this point

[faint beacon]

Self + Team buffs

[robust herald]

what's WS again

[faint beacon]

Usually doing it in Havoc

Weapon Specialist

[hollow ibex]

makes sense with a coordinated team

[robust herald]

that's the one I was thinking about using

[faint beacon]

MMF = Marksmen Focus

[faint beacon]

Even in uncoord

[robust herald]

it seems like the justices keystone for arbites but for vet

[faint beacon]

Remember

They can kill it

You still get the buffs

[hollow ibex]

nah at that point i'd rather run MMF

[faint beacon]

Tag and forget

[faint beacon]

It is

Terminal Warrant is actually worse WS

[robust herald]

is it good in practice?

[hollow ibex]

it's like they took the best part of WS

[robust herald]

you have my attention

[faint beacon]

WS is literally one of the best Keystones in the game

[hollow ibex]

and chucked it out the window

[robust herald]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[faint beacon]

You get 3 melee kills

Now you have 100% Crit on next kill

And on that ranged kill

[robust herald]

that sounds. insane

[faint beacon]

You get further dodges and faster melee swing speed

It’s encouraging you to embrace how Vet should be played

Which is a true hybrid class of the game

[robust herald]

yeah

I was thinking WS sounds exactly what I want out of a hybrid

[faint beacon]

I can confidently say my main gun of choice which was notoriously anemic for a long time even though I made it work

The vigilant autos

Is pretty fucking insane now with WS

[proud jolt]

hey if anyone wants to krieg up let me know, Ill join you

[faint beacon]

Now if they could only tweak the Infantry Lasguns

All would be good

[hollow ibex]

and finish the tree rework...

[robust herald]

what's the dump on helbore?

[hollow ibex]

stability or ammo

[robust herald]

my vet's a krieger but I'm on malice atm LOL

I'm considering grinding to damnation and just doing karnak suicide rush to 30

get it done quick along with my masteries

[robust herald]

I'd rather stability

ammo seems. Important

[hollow ibex]

that's what i dump too

i mean ammo's fine

given shocktrooper

but i don't think stability matters at all

[leaden condor]

What's stability do?

[fresh thistle]

yes

[proud jolt]

lol nice

[leaden condor]

I'm gonna feed you to a squig

[proud jolt]

glad I was able to grab this

[leaden condor]

Smelbore

[hollow ibex]

affects recoil, accuracy and maybe weapon sway? i mean none of it is material tho

[leaden condor]

So unimportant if you're using the one talent that negates all that?

[proud jolt]

lol

[fresh thistle]

did the devs buff the shredder auto pistol?

[hollow ibex]

i run with ES so yeah

[leaden condor]

No they added a class that has autopistol but better

[fresh thistle]

so they still havent buffed the auto pistol for the other classes fucking hell

[leaden condor]

I really like the laspistol

It's really fun with the weakspot kill keystone

[hollow ibex]

it was buffed

it's usable/decent now

whereas it was literally a bb gun before

[proud jolt]

The ALMIGHTY Las pistol smacks

[leaden condor]

I kinda wish we had a regular stubgun equivalent of the dual stubguns

[surreal rune]

its such a slog to rise up through the difficulties on a new character

[leaden condor]

They made it a lot easier with the new update

[surreal rune]

i still have to get up through all of it

[tepid panther]

Which mark of Tact axe is best to pair with Helby?

[hollow ibex]

VII

[strange crow]

Mk 7 is always the way to go rn

[hollow ibex]

mk iv can be quite good, but not on vet

[robust herald]

what's a good melee for cleaving thru mixed hordes

[strange crow]

Power sword

Or db shotgun

[robust herald]

hmm alr

does taxe work too

im not lvl13

[leaden condor]

I like the good ole chainsword for that

[strange crow]

Rashad would work better than tac axe for mixed horde

[robust herald]

ic

I'll just use rashad till then ig

[strange crow]

Tac axe is usually used as the go-to budget melee since you don't need trench fighter

[robust herald]

I won't be long till I hit lvl13 anyways

[strange crow]

You forgot the mixed in mixed horde lol

[robust herald]

I just don't like how slow rashad feels in its lights

[strange crow]

Yeah trench fighter is a must have for rashad

Tac axe is still great in a vacuum but compared to rashad it's less potent in a straight brawl

Its main benefit is mobility and saving you a point

So more for ranged focused builds

[strange crow]

What ranged weapon are you running btw?

[robust herald]

helby

[strange crow]

Oh yeah then tac axe will def work

You won't really have to worry much about mixed hordes when you can kill all the armored guys before they reach you

And if you still want more mixed horde clear than what tac axe gives you can run frags

[robust herald]

yea idk tho I like my cracks

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/power-wheel-cop-police-funny-funny-cop-gif-17537628

[strange crow]

Fair enough

[hollow ibex]

youve been liking what now?

[robust herald]

my krak grenades sah

they make the biggun' go boomy

[proud jolt]

the fit, was this the version you were refering too

[strange crow]

Nah I meant the real steel legion one

[proud jolt]

ah the old helmet

I have the jacket and pants

[strange crow]

Nah that's the newer version

[proud jolt]

oh really

that helmet is fire

[strange crow]

Yeah the helmet you have on in that pic was originally released alongside the coat you had in the first image and some minor variants of it were made later

[proud jolt]

oh ok

yea I collected both versions

[strange crow]

The one I posted (which is based on the goated tabletop miniatures) came out a few months before the full set and was rereleased with the set

[strange crow]

Haha fair enough, either one mogs krieg lol

[proud jolt]

you like the steel more than krieg

my other favorite fit

vox soldier

[strange crow]

Yeah lol if you can't tell by my name

That's fire too

[proud jolt]

yea lol

i also collected the command hat

[latent ridge]

guys do you know any good skin to fit with this? im waiting Fshark to take back the black version of Vox

[strange crow]

You mean back cosmetic?

[latent ridge]

yeah

im using the militarum backpack, but still missing something immersive for field operations

this is my favourite look with the new map

[proud jolt]

rat fit

[strange crow]

Would the brownish-yellow pack with the grey bedroll work?

The one you get from Hestia

[latent ridge]

ye im using that one rn

[strange crow]

Oh whoops my b

[latent ridge]

dw

[latent ridge]

i use that one with scarf, looks infil OPS af

[strange crow]

And I take it you don't have the tan/red vox caster?

The "rust camo" one

[latent ridge]

tan vox caster? nope

was that some gift or unlockable?

[strange crow]

Nah it was released in commodore's vestures with the cosmetic set you're wearing in the pic

[latent ridge]

i've one seen the black vox and green one from the rn shop

[latent ridge]

too bad i got it now, it is not there rn

that one would be the one ye

damn

why did they separate it?

[strange crow]

Ah tragic guess you know what to look for when the shop rotates ig

[proud jolt]

figured I ask you, what is the main rifle for the steel legion is it the lucius

[strange crow]

Nah its the voss

[proud jolt]

ah ok

whats the VOSS lol

[strange crow]

It was purchased separately from the original set, it was just first seen in the same shop rotation. Also the original release for the set had different headgear

[latent ridge]

i took your pic to remember when i see that on shop again

[strange crow]

It's a rapid fire carbine, looks most similar to infantry lasgun 2b

[latent ridge]

ah yeah i dont like the original, so i put kantrael flack helmet with pointer same color, i though it was fit for the unit

[strange crow]

Folding stock and everything

Oh you didn't purchase it with the helmet?

[latent ridge]

no

[strange crow]

My b lol ig its still sold with the bandana then haha

[latent ridge]

it was a headset and a eye protesic

[proud jolt]

tried to make a death head, fire or not

[latent ridge]

thanks for the assistance!

[strange crow]

Ofc ofc

[latent ridge]

and the vox caster pic

gn guys, have fun

[strange crow]

Yeah yeah ok it is the same one still then

Unfortunate cause I like helmets a lot more

[latent ridge]

me too

[spark mauve]

HOW DO I DROP A PIC

[strange crow]

I think u gotta get the Convicts role

Which u get by just talking in the server

It doesn't take too long

[spark mauve]

oh ok

wanted to show my fit

lol

[strange crow]

What cosmetics u using?

Or what theme?

[robust herald]

yeah the hellbore feels good

[strange crow]

Lets go

[spark mauve]

rougeish recon vet

[spark mauve]

check dm

[strange crow]

Bet bet

[fresh thistle]

@hollow ibex are you the go to guy for everything veteran related?

[hollow ibex]

that's prob @tall torrent

he's the one writing the vet guide

[fresh thistle]

Eh close enough

This is currently what I’m using for my veteran tree and was wanting a few pointers to if I should change anything

[hollow ibex]

what weapons?

[fresh thistle]

Vraks infantry autogun MK V and the chainsword XIIIg

Was using the tax axe like you guys suggested but didn’t feel right

[hollow ibex]

i'd make the following changes

red nodes in general don't do well with infil because of the very long cooldown

get back in the fight is very bad

and basically a never take

reciprocity, skirmisher, and agile engagement are very powerful talents

skirmisher is needed for the krak crusher one-shot on auric/damn

if you don't take tinkerer

though i guess you have bring it down already as well

but skirmisher is one of the strongest talents vet gets

agile engagement is good so i'd still suggest trying to squeeze it in somewhere

tbh in general though, vraks wouldn't be my pick for a WS gun

i'd go revolver, double barrel or maybe even plasma

FT or MMF are better for vraks

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a02606aa-11c1-4470-9bb1-fc3f2d315f31/emperors-fusiliers

this is what i use for a vraks hybrid build

[proud jolt]

if you want send me a pic through DM, ill post it

[fresh thistle]

Thanks for letting me know I’ll use this build that you suggested @hollow ibex

Soon as I get home from shopping 💀

With the wife 💀

Christmas shopping

[hollow ibex]

oh yeah my build uses exec stance

infil's in a rough spot, ES is much better overall

though doesn't have the "get out of jail free" aspect that infil has, so be careful about that

[fresh thistle]

How bad of a spot is infiltrate in right now?

And how did it get in such a bad spot

[hollow ibex]

worst vet ult by far

[hollow ibex]

only got small buffs

VOC was always op

ES got major buffs

then the vet cdr talent got nerfed quite a bit

which hurts infil the most, as the talent having the worst cd

infil also doesn't really synergize with much, besides like frag nades

[fresh thistle]

Oof man that hurts my heart to hear that one of my favourite veteran abilities is the worst in the class

[hollow ibex]

yeah same

used to main infil

[fresh thistle]

Oof I see the second half of deadshot is horrible

First half of deadshot is great second half not so good devs should really remove the second half of dead shot

[leaden condor]

Frag grenades feel like doodoo to use ngl

[proud jolt]

whats a good autogun build, I Never use any of them

thought about giving them a try

[hollow ibex]

it can be quite good

just gotta build around it

[hollow ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1428625649047834714/5292FC1.MP4?ex=69371411&is=6935c291&hm=b9c1b071718f32c098f59dd9b795e1c2114a0930336a15b310640462b399688c&

you need to drop 2 of them if you want to kill things

[leaden condor]

Thats why I don't like them ig

And the delay

[hollow ibex]

grenadier gives you 4 of them

they're very powerful

and you regen them quickly

[livid hill]

I wish it worked more like bardin ranger's uly

Like it created a smoke cloud that kept you hifden while inside it

Exec stance fucks but requires much more skill than voc, which is overpowered

I acknowledge its not the best way to run it but I've found that green reconlas and exec stance + weapon specialist is good

The blue reconlas doesnt do enough damage per shot to benefit from exec imo

But it does work

[faint beacon]

Yknow I thought about it for a bit

I wonder why Infil doesn't have a node or baked in thing where on Infil Kill you get 10% ammo back

I've been thinking about this just because then it would encourage not needing to take Survivalist and if you do take it, it wouldn't be utterly gamebreaking

[hollow ibex]

could be interesting

[civic knot]

why cant I change my ability??

[tepid panther]

70 thermal/ 72 charge rate is good for Plasma, right?

[hybrid plover]

it'd be 68 thermal 72 charge

and yesn't

sometimes it is, sometimes it isnt

gotta test it

[surreal rune]

68 to 69 thermal and whatever amount of charge speed you can gather

68 to 69 thermal is the breakpoint where you can get an extra shot off from zero heat buildup

and also get two whole shots off after venting heat

69 thermal is definitely safe but 68 thermal can be finicky, thus you should test the plasma gun

[leaden condor]

Isn't 70 well past that

[silver patrol]

70 or more is completely fine

[open ravine]

Potentially controversial take but I feel this skill should let ally kills refresh the ability as well but maybe at 2.5 seconds instead of the 5 seconds that they player gets\

[tepid otter]

Make it lower than 2.5 and I think it's ok, think it'll be a tad op even refreshing just half of it on ally kills

but das just me

[agile mortar]

what's dump stat on plamsa?

[strange crow]

Most optimal is 68/69 thermal resistance, 71/72 charge speed, and the rest at 80

Otherwise dump charge speed

[agile mortar]

ah XD
may I ask why it's optimal?

[strange crow]

Lets you get an extra shot off before overheating

[young pond]

what gun does this guy have?? a WOOD FINISH??

who does he think he is

i havent played for a while, is it a fomo skin

[strange crow]

After 68/69% there's no extra benefit for further thermal resistance so the rest should go to charge speed to reduce the firing delay

[strange crow]

That's jus the normal kantrael mk7

[young pond]

ohhh ive never used it

[strange crow]

For good reason

[young pond]

oh no

[open ravine]

Avoid shattering impact blessing as it basically does nothing on plasma as it already has full pen on everything except carapace and even then it's at 90 and above pen

[fresh thistle]

question what material is the chainsword made out of?

carapace i'm guessing

[azure narwhal]

The frame and its many parts are made out of plasteel or imperial steel alloy. The chain and its teeth (the important part) are adamantium

[hoary gorge]

??? carapace is armor type not material

where did you get this idea from

[fresh thistle]

i just assumed seeing as carapace is armor so thought to my self maybe carapace is also a material

[obsidian shoal]

Where can i get Plasma gun?

and a power falchion

[dapper coyote]

The armory exchange?

Just level up in time and buy them

Or use melk coins and hope to get one