veteran-class

[tall torrent]

it can handle scab bruisers in droves really well which is good enough for most melee weapons on pure horde clear

[tame lodge]

Yeah 8 cleave

[hollow ibex]

Yeah that's what I tested against

Good horde clear and good horde control

Just a bit slow in attack speed

[tame lodge]

The feels and the CDD is what I don't like

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/then-you-are-lost-obi-wan-star-wars-episode3-well-then-you-are-lost-gif-11609928

[tame lodge]

Shut 💀

It should've been Mk4 to have their cap removed

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-27446150

[woeful oxide]

best helbore pattern?

[hollow ibex]

Your choice

They're all good

[tame lodge]

Mk4
Objectively (biased)

[woeful oxide]

what about tactical axe waht mark?

doing sniper build

[tame lodge]

Mk7 is preferred

[woeful oxide]

thx

[ocean idol]

i want long las

I actually had an idea today for a new class

Disgraced Noble

Shooting path is Hunter, melee is Duelist, and utility path is Aristocrat

Hunter focuses on long ranged sniping, with access to long las

Duelist would focus on perfect parrying giving big bonuses to damage

utility is buffing of allies in different ways

Unique weapon - sword and buckler

[feral jetty]

oi vetties

what perks/blessings would yall recommend for the bolt pistol

[tough nova]

Flak maniac puncture lethal proximity/surgical depending on blitz choice

[feral jetty]

I gots krak atm

[tough nova]

Prolly go surgical

[feral jetty]

ty

what about the chain sword

and would you recommend the mk 4 or 13g

[tough nova]

Shred and the 36% damage increase on 3 enemies

[feral jetty]

ty

[tough nova]

Flak and maniac as well. There's some fun to be had with move speed on activation and 100% crit on special kill.

[feral jetty]

gotchu, ty

recommend either of the marks over the other?

for the sword

actually bolt pistol too

I didn't realize they both had a diff mark lol

[tough nova]

I prefer the one with the stab push attack can't remember mk #. Og pistol is my preference, higher base damage smaller explosive radius.

[tame lodge]

Bistol new mark was added recently
Tldr it's shit

So use the old one

Uh

Is it the 4

[feral jetty]

the mark 6 is the new one yea

mark 4 has higher dam

[tame lodge]

Yup use the 4

[feral jetty]

ty

helpful lads, much appreciated

[tough nova]

The new bistol sounds better for what its worth. Chunky sound design.

[ocean idol]

What are top 3 ranged weapons for vet? 1. Is plasma, but what about 2 and 3?

[tame lodge]

If you're going havoc
Plasma and Helbore compete for top 1

If you go auric
Zarona Revolver is top 1

[woeful oxide]

i love the recon

is that any good

[tame lodge]

It's good yes

Probably top 5

It gets outdps'd by Vraks5

But on havoc there's ammo limitations so you usually take recon on havoc for the ammo economy

[analog pond]

anybody got a strong havoc viable pure ranged build?

my lazy A$$ hates to meele

[regal smelt]

play psyker, even then you still need your melee to poke bosses

[analog pond]

yea for bosses sure

[tame lodge]

A Helbore build is the closest thing to a ranged only

But you'll still have to melee

And also rely on teammates covering you so you can do your thing

[regal smelt]

ammo isnt really the issue also. Melee elites are just too tanky to unload on when melee gets the job done faster

I'd like to see how ranged only scum goes

[analog pond]

tbh the idea i got from the ranged only Scum .... i fell in love in that ... endless amo ... just backlining and chilling

[tall torrent]

Vet is hybrid combat class

[leaden condor]

I like the shovel as a backup for the helbore

[narrow widget]

the recon las vet community begs to differ

[native hamlet]

been a bit since i've done combat blade. mk6 is still roughly better than mk3 right?

i got mk6 knife with spearhead boltgun goin' and shredder nades. i'm not familiar with move tech, but it feels like charging heavies felt faster (unsure if there's a diff between the marks), but i've been seeing a handful of mk3 combat blades vs mk6

[narrow widget]

charging heavies on both dueling sword and knoife do speed you up yes

actually dueling sword I'm not sure since they've been reworked but knoife yea

[hybrid plover]

Thrust light tech is still there yeah. Only thing that changed was the special and that had nothing to do with it.

[native hamlet]

interesting

do you know by how much?

[hollow ibex]

Decent amount

[opal prairie]

Guys is it just me or is the power falcion not working properly?

[mystic lodge]

Man its just proper ass

[narrow frost]

Current bug that power weapons don't have their power mode audio

[opal prairie]

Mine has the audio but when it's on, my hits are no different than when it's not powered

[narrow frost]

Interesting

1st time hearing that

Try in test room

Is it actual damage difference

[opal prairie]

I'm doing that now

alright there is a power difference

it just feels like ass in hordes idk

gonna switch marks to see if i secretly did that without knowing, but i crashed to desktop when switching in the meat grinder lol

[narrow frost]

That's Pfalcion for you

[opal prairie]

man idk something doesn't feel right with horde clear

i thought it was supposed to shock the enemies when i hit them too? it's def not doing that

[woeful oxide]

would the dueling sword work for helbore sniper build? i wanna use cause im a kreig and i have the skin

[proven garden]

What vet gun has the best dps/damage per shot besides the plasma gun

[distant plaza]

helbore?

maybe revolver too?

[proven garden]

Rad

[faint beacon]

It’s funny because literally no one uses Falchion cause it’s ass

It’s so sad

[woeful oxide]

thats the new one yeah?

power falcion

[upper dock]

I have not played in like 6 months how's the Veteran. Still just Dueling Sword and Plasma Gun or you gimp yourself?

[narrow widget]

vets in a good spot rn in terms of power

has a lot of options

bolter, plas, helbore, revolver, bistol, etc etc

ps6 still the best melee tho

[upper dock]

is the recon good again? I liked that one a lot

[narrow widget]

its always been decent

[slate wave]

I am back boys I called Hive Scum was fun but ultimately just couldn’t stay way from the Vet

[smoky trout]

What's the difference between the Power Sword 3/6? They say they do the same damage.

[narrow widget]

ps6 is objectively better

[mystic lodge]

No, he has tons of options now

[smoky trout]

Do you know why?

[narrow widget]

big wide and horizontal swings

also the push attack combo

[smoky trout]

ty

[tame lodge]

It doesn't electrocute

You don't have SFX nor vfx due to a bug rn

[tame lodge]

Ignore that damage part

Because

It only shows the adm of the first attack

Of your light and your heavy

[hollow ibex]

Do yourself a favor and stop watching tanner

[slate wave]

That’s a set up for failure right there

[fallow shoal]

is mobility the dump stat for dueling sword

?

[burnt pelican]

if its rotten armour then no plasma gun for u otherwise its pretty good yeah

[upper dock]

I dunno who that is. I think the only person I have watched is mister e

[narrow widget]

imo cleave damage but I am an unreliable source of information

[mystic lodge]

Mister E is a popular figure here

[hollow ibex]

oh no...

both don't know shit about the game

but at least mr. E isn't an ass

so there's that

[upper dock]

I saw his video saying do melee not desperado and it changed my whole opinion on the Hive Scum. Actually pretty good now. I guess Veteran is still king of ranged

[narrow frost]

vet never was though....

psyker still is

the only class that can range 100% of the time

and be ranged and single target range

nearly any range

[mystic lodge]

Yes, but u should also try out the IAGs

[faint beacon]

Vet is one of the best Hybrid classes in the game

Psyker can brain off click with any staff

and just win

[tribal tinsel]

What perks should I use on the power sword?

[hollow ibex]

cara unyield

[tribal tinsel]

Gotcha. Blessings?

[hollow ibex]

brumentum / sunder + PC4

[fallow shoal]

haha thanks bro

[narrow widget]

Mr e literally stole the Krabby patty secret formula and killed my cat in cold blood

[slate wave]

Psyker is the king of everything lmao, Melee? Psyker! Ranged? Psyker! Support? You guessed it Psyker!

[narrow widget]

if I had my way all psykers would be barreled to hell and back as soon as the mission starts

vote nitoric acid for darktide dictator 2026

[slate wave]

Trust me I hate those Mutants too but in Havoc 40, I will never say no to a bubble Psyker

Anyway Vet is the best class, and is the swiss army knife of content. Need to get some do with reliable damage and survival. Veteran is the answer

[tribal tinsel]

How good's the regular lasgun, and what perks/blessings should I have on it?

[narrow widget]

inflas isnt that good

but probably flak maniac, headhunter deadly accurate

[modest stag]

guys, im leveling my vet but i get no ammo bc ppl just zoom through and steal them, what do?

[narrow widget]

be faster than them

also be more ammo efficient

[mystic lodge]

people steal ammo from Vet?

in my games people usually leave ammo for the vet

[tribal tinsel]

👍
I like using the lasgun for thematic reasons.

Power falchion? When was this added?

Is it any good?

[narrow widget]

no

[distant plaza]

it's okay
not too shabby when powered up
kinda dogshit when off

[tribal tinsel]

Oh.

It's relic blade for vet, I see.

[hollow ibex]

except worse but yes

it's like fatshart forgot why people liked RB

[tribal tinsel]

That being, what, good base damage and reach?

[hollow ibex]

main thing is not total dogshit when powered off lol

[tribal tinsel]

A scathing critique

[hollow ibex]

unfortunately, it's true

[tribal tinsel]

Don't let hadron hear you say that

[spark helm]

It can work for what it does but eventually you'll feel where its limits exist.

[livid sphinx]

He's levelling up that mean's he's with noobs

[mystic lodge]

truly the hardest enemies in Darktide

[livid sphinx]

Good thing vet was the first class I maxed out

[hoary gorge]

the ammo on kill aura:

[dense belfry]

Is this worth getting?

[narrow frost]

mobility is the better dump

[dense belfry]

Didn't see that.

Thanks

In the meantime, mind if I ask about how to make my Devils claw better?

[narrow widget]

vegeta darktide ain't no way

[dense belfry]

Way.

[austere mica]

You don't really

Dclaw is just bad at this point

It has no redeeming factors

[dense belfry]

Bait.

[narrow widget]

not bait unfortunately

[austere mica]

Its one of the worst weapons in the game

And its niche as a parry stick got eaten by DS

[dense belfry]

Dammit.

[narrow widget]

its aight into unarmored/maniac but dogshit flak/cara

[austere mica]

It does absolutely nothing that something else doesn't do better

[austere mica]

Its bad into flak

[dense belfry]

What about a heavy sword, then?

[narrow widget]

oh yea

I always get those mixed up

[austere mica]

There is no fixing dclaw until they buff it

[austere mica]

No its both

[narrow widget]

I may be stupis

[austere mica]

I was using italics for emphasis

[dense belfry]

God forbid underperforming weapons don't get buffed...

[austere mica]

Very good, struggles with carapace unless you juice crit chance

[narrow widget]

lucky for u take reciprocity

[dense belfry]

I want a sword for horde clearing but not the PS because that thing is a pos when you get overrun.

I just hate having to juice it up all the time. It's worse than a chainsword, when it comes to it.

[narrow widget]

ps lowk makes vet horde clear good

[austere mica]

What

Vet horde clear is good

[livid sphinx]

Just get a DS

[narrow widget]

compared to other classes it's eh

[narrow widget]

holy bait

[dense belfry]

Main issue is that the power sword doesn't do much damage unless revved up.

[austere mica]

Manstopper Dbarrel

It can outclear purgatus

[narrow widget]

yea but bro specified melee

[austere mica]

You have power sword

[narrow widget]

that's what I'm saying

[austere mica]

Which is one of the best weapons in the game

[narrow widget]

vro

that is literally what I just said

[austere mica]

Its not entirely fun to use but its incredibly good

[narrow widget]

💔

[livid sphinx]

DS and Plasma are your bestfriends

[austere mica]

Die

[livid sphinx]

Dont forget shout and WS

[dense belfry]

It feels shit to use.

[austere mica]

DS plasma is icky gross nasty

[dense belfry]

I'd rather use a Caxe

[austere mica]

Point and click adventure

[narrow widget]

vegeta literally specified
melee horde clear
not ps

smh smh

[austere mica]

Ps3

Or tac axe

Tac axe always works

[livid sphinx]

Okay but seriously Power Sword is the best for horde clearing imo

[narrow widget]

that's what I'm saying bro

[livid sphinx]

The new melee weapon for Vet is so weak when out of power

[dense belfry]

Thank you.

(I really hate clicking the stick every 2 seconds.)

[dense belfry]

So exactly like power sword then?

[livid sphinx]

Power sword is alright when you haven't powered it up

[narrow widget]

insane lie

[livid sphinx]

Way more decent than PF when out of power

[dense belfry]

Bull. Shit.

[livid sphinx]

Hey you're the one asking for everyone's opinion here so i'm just saying my opinion

[dense belfry]

I remember the chainsword being good for horde clearing.

Do I get a new one?

[narrow widget]

bro we got the ED power sword 🥀

[dense belfry]

The what?

[narrow widget]

dysfunction 🥀

[dense belfry]

Ah yeah.

[livid sphinx]

Shit I just realized that the only weapons I have for my vet is a DS, Power Sword, Power Falchion and a Knife

[narrow widget]

lemme put u on Rashad

[livid sphinx]

Idk the Rashad feels weak for me

[dense belfry]

I feel like the PS needs more base damage, because it's so shit at killing when underpowered.

[austere mica]

Rashad is sleepy roll a tac axe

[narrow widget]

u power it all the time anyway there's 0 point in using unpowered attacks

[livid sphinx]

Yeah that one too

[dense belfry]

What if i'm overrun and don't have time to power up?

[livid sphinx]

The good part about PS is that your only down time is powering it up every 3 attacks

[midnight totem]

Sounds like a skill issue

[livid sphinx]

PF on the other hand is useless for like 1 minute

[midnight totem]

Although, I do wish power sword had 1: 2 powered swings base, 2: slightly better mobility or attack speed

[livid sphinx]

But if you want to join the gigachad club, use a DS

[midnight totem]

Also I'm using falchion and I can't get used to it

[narrow widget]

yo why do we want to buff the best melee in the game 🥀

[midnight totem]

There's nothing gigachad about the dueling sword

[livid sphinx]

I'm being sarcastic

[dense belfry]

I'd rather use the chainsword for horde clearing due to it's high damage and fast swing speed.

[livid sphinx]

Everyone knows how beta using DS + Plasma + Shout + WS is

[narrow widget]

the tac axe in question

[dense belfry]

Elaborate.

[narrow widget]

taxe is great

very highly recommend

[dense belfry]

Elaborate!

[narrow widget]

[austere mica]

Its like combat axe

But knife speed

[dense belfry]

"It's good". Ok, WHY?

[austere mica]

And also one of the very few weapons with an innate crit mod

[dense belfry]

Thank you.

[austere mica]

Very good finesse

Extremely safe clear with PA -> heavy

Can dead stop mutants with special

[fresh thistle]

ok the veteran tree is the best its ever being

[dense belfry]

What Mark Taxe?

[austere mica]

2 or 7

[narrow widget]

7 iirc

[dense belfry]

I see.

[narrow widget]

we have like 7 free points instead of 2 now !!!!1!111!1!1 big win !!1!1!1!

[austere mica]

Brutal momentum headtaker flak cara/unarmored

[dense belfry]

Could be better, could have some reworked skills.

[austere mica]

If you can't kill bruisers in one heavy attack (with light buff stacking) run unarmored over carapace

[fresh thistle]

i noticed the invis ability for vet feels so much nicer now

[dense belfry]

What's the point of invis vet, by the way?

Is it for ranged attack backstabs?

[austere mica]

Its utility stealth

[narrow widget]

u can chuck a lot of shredders

[fresh thistle]

this

[austere mica]

Objectives, repositioning, revives, self resets

[narrow widget]

not much of a reason to take it over like exe stance or shout tho

[austere mica]

Yeah

[fresh thistle]

leave no one behind is actually in a fucking great spot i just noticed

[austere mica]

Exe is really good for damage and sustain, and the information it gives is invaluable

[dense belfry]

When i get a taxe, (assuming dump mobility) I'll return with questions as to make it better.

[austere mica]

And VoC can reset fights very well plus extra safety with gold

[fresh thistle]

this

[midnight totem]

what are the ideal trinkets for a melee vet now?

[austere mica]

Probably 1 hp 1 stam 1 tough

[fresh thistle]

wait is marksmen focus actually good now? no more crab walking?

[narrow widget]

it's good now

*on specific weapons

[austere mica]

Its been good

[mystic lodge]

Tac axe is like me on Adderall

[dense belfry]

I use VoC to stagger heavies, like Crushers, Mauler and muties.

[austere mica]

The toughness regen they gave it means it works in melee now

[fresh thistle]

recon las gun?

[austere mica]

Melee exe is real

[mystic lodge]

true, VoC is clutch

like, the most clutch ability in the game

[fresh thistle]

i see field improv is also in a great postion

https://tenor.com/view/game-dispatch-toxic-kiss-chef-gif-7773832749888199702

[dense belfry]

Would Infiltrate be good with a knife?

[mystic lodge]

Is it just me or are people rushing it in No Mans Land?

[austere mica]

It lets you hyper lunge with the movespeed buff

[dense belfry]

That a yes?

[austere mica]

Not really

[livid sphinx]

Its just a fast map

[austere mica]

Infil works with anything

But its also not as good as exe or voc

[versed mural]

Is it really? I haven’t used it much

[dense belfry]

Probably not Caxe...

[versed mural]

I might have to try it now

[fresh thistle]

translation you become a complete crackhead

[mystic lodge]

I know its a fast map but the majority of my Ls on it is because someone rushed ahead or got left behind

there are situations where hanging back for a few seconds to let the enemies come to u would have meant an easy horde clear but someone just gotta put everybody in a tough spot

[versed mural]

I would love to see Vet’s infiltrate get to the same level as what Zealot has. It feels a bit neutered by comparison

[midnight totem]

you'd have to restore vet's cd perk

[livid sphinx]

That's just normal gameplay for you

[dense belfry]

Got an atrox mk2. With mobility dump stat.

Any blessings and perk advice?

[livid sphinx]

Jesus I feel like i'm the only one rocking exe stance and marksmanship on plasma

[dense belfry]

What's the max crit chance we can have? I feel like they added a cap to it.

[old prism]

100

you can go above if you want

[dense belfry]

100 isn't guaranteed then?

[austere mica]

100% is guaranteed crits, you just can't hit it outside of mortis for more than 1 hit

[dense belfry]

I'm just trying a DB crit build that has as much crit chance as possible, even with Deadeye.

[austere mica]

Oh nevermind scattershot

[austere mica]

Skip deadeye and just use weapon specialist

Its all you need

Manstopper and flechette

[dense belfry]

You sure?

[austere mica]

Yes

Its 100% crit from 3 kills

Its also my most played vet build

[dense belfry]

I meant to say Deadshot, my bad.

The talent.

[austere mica]

Yeah I know

You don't need it

Weapon specialist is all the crit you need

[dense belfry]

Not even Opening salvo?

[austere mica]

Opening salvo isn't good, and no it isn't needed

Weapon specialist is 33% crit chance per stack

Which only require 1 melee kill each

[dense belfry]

3 kills is enough then?

[austere mica]

If you kill 3 poxwalkers you get 1 shot of 100% ranged crit chance

[dense belfry]

Then after that?

[austere mica]

Wdym

[dense belfry]

As an example, say I want to shoot my shotgun more than once.

Do i still get crit chance or does it not matter?

[austere mica]

Just kill more things

Or run Scattershot over Flechette

It'll let you shooting again at like 70-95% or so

[dense belfry]

Is bleed damage worth it tho?

[austere mica]

It makes it much more consistent

And helps it snipe

It also does full damage if you pair it with an uncanny melee like shovel or knife

[dense belfry]

uncanny will carry over when I switch weapons?

[austere mica]

As long as you keep it up

Only not for your gun though

It'll apply to DoT's

[dense belfry]

Sweet.

Does it stack with decimator, too?

[austere mica]

I don't think so

Uncanny is just weird like that

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9fad575e-f27e-44fc-bd9f-f62dd7ed4001/how-to-have-fun

Go forth

[dense belfry]

VoC? That's strange.

[austere mica]

Why

Its the generalist ability

Requires no investment besides a subnode and it just works

[dense belfry]

Thought ES would be more in tune with the DB.

[austere mica]

Not really

You only pull it to shoot and go straight back to melee

And it doesn't aim for heads

[dense belfry]

A lot of toughness taxes.

Good call.

[fresh thistle]

at least that shit aint pineapple on pizza

[austere mica]

I am a pineapple pizza eater

[dense belfry]

Outside of the sauce, vegetables don't belong on pizza.

[fresh thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-smh-stop-ew-nope-gif-16327269065997561618

[gleaming patrol]

I suck at the game and can only pass havoc 30. Anyone know any good havoc 40 builds for veteran?

[tepid otter]

I usually just look one up but the meta is still plasma with the psword afaik

[gleaming patrol]

Any tips on where to look it up?

[calm shard]

this is the most basic bitch meta veteran talent build

either weapon specialist or middle keystone to preference

can also use executioner's stance instead if you're into that

[gleaming patrol]

Thanks

I do use something like it but with dueling sword a frags

[calm shard]

yeah dueling sword is not really a very good weapon on veteran just because it is so unbelievably outclassed by 3 other weapons they have

power sword, combat axe, and tactical axe

tactical axe has the same mobility and only loses a tiny bit of single target damage for way waaaaaaay better horde clear and stagger

power sword and combat axe kill everything easily and quickly

[gleaming patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT94rSET8OQ

[calm shard]

granted this can be saida bout the dueling sword on every class

[gleaming patrol]

I use this one right now

[calm shard]

it's good but frankly I think the modern meta has grown out of it

oh tanner yikes

[gleaming patrol]

Okay I do enjoy its move set and poke stab

[calm shard]

tanner is kind of the black sheep of this community

[gleaming patrol]

ah ok

[calm shard]

he got banned form this discord for constantly starting shit with dataminers

and people who knew better than him

[gleaming patrol]

Ah okay

[calm shard]

he's a prideful idiot who thinks his word is law

[gleaming patrol]

Well I'm shit at building so I just try to look for the current meta and to copy it

[tame lodge]

"The obvious new BEST meta"

Serrated Blade Dueling Sword

💀

💀

Serrated Blade Dueling Sword

[calm shard]

nothing super out of place on his build in this vid tho aside from a weird set up on the weapons

[gleaming patrol]

I just pickedthat one cuz it was short and I just skipped pretty much everything that was not perks and weapons

[calm shard]

it's mostly just out of date and not really in-touch with how good kraks are in havoc these days

[gleaming patrol]

Okay will give it try then, thanks!

[calm shard]

oh also thing to note Power Sword 6 requires you to learn a single block cancel for best effects

[tame lodge]

Always Prepared plasma and Serrated Blade Dueling Sword

[gleaming patrol]

So gunner restiance is still the best? what other curio perks should I get?

[calm shard]

you have to tap block every time you power the sword to reset your chain for your horde clearing lights

[calm shard]

largely personal preferecne, 2 gunner resists is just extremely common

some people run revive speed, +toughness, stamina regen etc.

[gleaming patrol]

I played without it and did not notice much diffrence

[calm shard]

basically all of the curio stats are useful for something

[gleaming patrol]

Revive speed and stamina regen is what I use now

Right

[calm shard]

except for the obvious damage resistance against specialists taht don't do damage (mutants, pox hounds)

[gleaming patrol]

Well I'm grateful for any tips and navigating trough videos is pretty tricky

[calm shard]

I think on my vet I personally use stamina regen and +corruption resistance

[tame lodge]

Revive Speed is cool

[calm shard]

yeah revive speed's real good

it applies to all actions that save your teammates

[gleaming patrol]

I just like the shout build a lot and I learnedto love the plasma gun

[calm shard]

trapper nets, reviving dead teammates, reviving ledges teammates, etc.

if you are holding E on a teammate for it revive speed makes it faster

[gleaming patrol]

The revive talent isnot worth it though?

[calm shard]

nope

nerfs VoC cooldown and radius which is crippling

and frequently using VoC gets you the revive anyways

because of the huge stagger

[gleaming patrol]

Oh I mean the one under it

[calm shard]

oh uh

[gleaming patrol]

The shout one I never used

[calm shard]

can be taken for personal preference since the build has 3 free points

[gleaming patrol]

Too hard a nerf as you said even I could tell lol

I do like the purple weapon one

[calm shard]

it's not the best talent vet has but 20% can be the difference

[gleaming patrol]

Right

[tame lodge]

You also get the movement speed towards teammates grabbed by mutants/Chaos Spawn

[calm shard]

yeah

[gleaming patrol]

Well I will try it out thanks a lot!

Been a bit stuck at around havoc 30 lol

[quick fossil]

Did veteran tree get their promised second round rework this update ? Or is it hivescum ?

[tame lodge]

Nothing changed this time around

[quick fossil]

Ahh sad 🙁

[last pewter]

me are not smart

TIL I learned if you're not aiming down sights on a bolter

it's not that it's its burst mode

it's full auto

[azure narwhal]

I thought that too but only for the first 10-15 hours of bolter i'd say

[last pewter]

tbf I hadn't been using bolter for the longest time, only really picked it up for the first time on my Arbitrator

but yeah

[azure narwhal]

Fair

[last pewter]

btw doesn't boltgun now have a different mark? what are the differences?

doesn't Boltpistol as well?

[serene bough]

Yes theyre AoE oriented

[azure narwhal]

The new mks provide better stagger, are better for horde clear due to their explosion radius but they do less dmg and have shittier amo econ

[serene bough]

Not other good compared to other

[azure narwhal]

Yeah

Og bolt weapons are still better

[opal seal]

I need builds mine got wiped 😭😭😭

[void dragon]

New bolter is good, an hybrid of flamer and OG bolter that still can snipe good, is the Bistol that is kinda effy but it has a place as utility gun for zealot

[serene bough]

Ive never seen someone use either of the new bolt weapons

[sudden cedar]

@serene bough @steep flower https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8MBt231rq4

[uneven kelp]

Hello

I am looking for the most potent melee weapon at killing crushers and carapace armor ennemies.

What would it be ?

[steep flower]

Ah; my humble Captain Blast

[serene bough]

I will watch later this evening

Thnx for sharing

[sudden cedar]

You are welcome.

[steep flower]

Eve being the bro we all need

[sudden cedar]

I did share the video because i think the guide is not done yet for GamesLantern.

[steep flower]

💯

[steep flower]

That is true; this & 1 more build lacks a guide

[steep flower]

I can share ya the talent tree & weapon specs in the dms later if you wish

[serene bough]

Sure ill take a peek

I may not be able to play and try til sunday though

[tame lodge]

Power Sword 6

[uneven kelp]

K ty will try

[tame lodge]

The combo is
Power up
Push attack
Light
Light

[uneven kelp]

The recommandations most upvoted on a subreddit were shovel and combat knife but the answers were old so prob chnaged

And you kill armor with light ?

Kk

So you have to power up every time ?

[tame lodge]

Basically yes

Don't forget to apply the Power Cycler blessing

Powered up it's a heretic Slayer 40 thousand
Unpowered it's a pool noodle

[uneven kelp]

Alright will try.

However if I dont like having to power up all the time, what other options are possible ?

[tame lodge]

Dueling Sword
Knife
Combat Axe
Tactical Axe
Chain Axe

Shovel is fine (the foldable ones)

Shock Maul is fine but more on the slow side of killing

[uneven kelp]

Chain Sword sucks ?

I assume for any of thoses option to work they need the blessing that give rending on weakspot hit ?

[tepid panther]

What's the general trinkets I should run on vet and the perks for them?

[tame lodge]

Chainsword can kill heavily armored enemies, but it's pretty unsafe

[tame lodge]

Not quite

Of those I listed

Only knife, dueling sword and shovel have Uncanny Strike

Rending is good, that's for sure

[azure narwhal]

Mk4 chainsword has solid PA -> light for single target

They've certainly gotten better anyways

[sudden cedar]

@serene bough @steep flower What i forgot to mention, this is a build for Arbitrator and not Veteran.

[steep flower]

Nah; you use rev for singles just like with the rest of the chain weapons
Mk4 chainsword is simply rev light or heavy depending on class & enemy & situation you are in

[azure narwhal]

Rev against packs of ragers?

[steep flower]

Utilize spacing, CC, terrain & bloodletter blessing- don’t need to finish the rev to apply 14 bleed

[sudden cedar]

It certainly requires more skill

[serene bough]

Oh I see

Why arb not vet

[heady wraith]

how good is the mk III shovel
the one with the overhead heavy in mode switch

[sudden cedar]

@serene bough I'll have to leave that answer to @steep flower

[sick marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/kids-wb-coconut-fred-warner-bros-gif-26185975

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-not-great-not-terrible-its-okay-gif-24540363

[azure narwhal]

Is the TTK and safety on that really better than PA -> light chain though? Doing one by one manually feels slower ngl, especially if you have something like shred + WS active paired with the strikedown lights

[steep flower]

What really matters in a fight is your survivability & reliable ways to answer threats as they come; you still do push att cause of reach & good single target dmg and ocasional light spam but rest is rev lights to apply bleed so they wither as you focus others/reposition

You also mix in heavies if you want non-rev attacks

[azure narwhal]

personally i wouldn't use anything else than pa+lights on most weapons vs a great number of ragers but i do see your point, because i know you like to utilize bloodletter whilst you do other work

[steep flower]

Once i come home in like… 5h i can show you on stream

[azure narwhal]

👍

[steep flower]

Then we are set! Will remember!

[steep flower]

Cause originally i wanted to make casti (worst ability) & its subnodes archetype work together with the worst keystone arby has and use what is generally considered since release a poor boltgun mark if not straight up a bad one; would say the moment they released that boltgun the build was born… sleeping… just not awakened yet by my hand
As for vet; it can work too but i would have to do some testing - already did some prototype talent trees cause boltgun build does not change

[cerulean ridge]

so... you guys got any of them veteran builds?

[steep flower]

Nah boi; go back to latrine duty - those toilets ain’t gonna shine themselves!

[cerulean ridge]

*grabs sapper shovel

no seriously, there's no pins..
gotta scrounge through gameslantern huh

[hollow ibex]

what sort of build

you gotta be more specific

[cerulean ridge]

fair enough.
I got my plasma and a recon crit/fire build, just wanted to double check

[steady heron]

this is one of my fav , ammo is no longer a problem , and u reviv u r team mate fast , and the bayonet is some what useable agaist the hord

[modest stag]

do you like recon lasgun better or helbor

[steady heron]

hellbor , there is a mod that makes it recharge by aiming

plus its has the bayonette , i almost never switch to the melee

[modest stag]

but recon go brrrrrr 😂

[steady heron]

recon works with excution stands yes , but hellbor on stealth let u deal with snipers

[hollow ibex]

both of these... need some work

for reference, this is a pretty standard vet build template

[steady heron]

how do u avoid key stones

[hollow ibex]

... it's a template

you pick the keystone and ult you want

[modest stag]

hes cheating

[steady heron]

ok ok ok so the build i had atllest with dead shot + shock trooper , ammo is no longer an issue

[ocean idol]

What would be second blessing for chsword if i take bloodletter?

[hollow ibex]

shred

and i hope you're using mk4 if you take bloodletter

[narrow widget]

if you dont need like weapon specialist or marksman's focus, focus target is pretty skippable lol

[ocean idol]

Why?

[serene bough]

Ok thank you

When im bored of leveling hvs maybe ill try

[hollow ibex]

cuz mk12 is largely light spam for horde and doesn't have much cleave (needs wrath)

[pseudo fiber]

Just watched a vet player in my game not activate his power sword onen time

[narrow widget]

holy

[wind ravine]

anyone got a infiltrate smoke nade build and a executioners stance build? I got some penances to do

[tribal tinsel]

What's a good perk/blessing combo for the Agripinaa MK XIV stub revolver?

[hollow ibex]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a02606aa-11c1-4470-9bb1-fc3f2d315f31/emperors-fusiliers

for ES

for infil you can use the build template i posted above

and just take smoke/infil

[steep flower]

Wrath; shred is nice but… cleave is better

[ocean idol]

duality of man

why it does not have slaughterer

[hollow ibex]

well if it's mk12 that you'er taking

wrath is mandatory

[steep flower]

With shred you gamble on crit cleave which is not reliable
Wrath is reliable

[hollow ibex]

eh chord crit is quite reliable

and the whole thing with chord is crits

[ocean idol]

are stacks from bloodletter even enough to kill anythingh

[sudden cedar]

Over time, yes.

[steep flower]

True but not being able to even reliably cleave through a couple of bruisers is bad
The only class that can forgo wrath for shred is HS (arby can too if you take push cleave talent but i don’t use it cause i don’t push attack hordes with mk4)

[sudden cedar]

But it seems a lot of players are focused on breakpoints, oneshots and quick kills.

[hollow ibex]

mkiv can cleave through four bruisers per heavy which is fine

[sudden cedar]

So naturally, there will be scepticism

[hollow ibex]

mkxii will need wrath

[sudden cedar]

Patience is a virtue.

[steep flower]

Thats not good enough; tested with & without wrath the mk4 and it was already struggling to cleave a mass of poxers without

[hollow ibex]

yeah well i don't like running bloodletter on chord to begin with tbh

[steep flower]

No extra elite dmg; might aswell use Hsword or Dclaw instead (Dclaw more cause shred + wrath is good)

HOL UP

I HAVE AN IDEA FOR HS

Can’t wait to test it!

[ocean idol]

i just want to try something different

and i like dot builds

[regal fjord]

So is the heavy sword ass

Or am I misunderstanding it

It does like

No fucking damage 😭

[hollow ibex]

it's very good at horde clear

and killing some elites

but the moment it runs up against carapace

it's joever

[regal fjord]

Idk man I was swinging it at the little dudes and it took like 4 swings to kill one 😭

[hollow ibex]

the lights do like no damage

if you want the meta version use mk ix

[narrow widget]

u only want to use heavy attacks

[hollow ibex]

open with a light then spam heavies for horde clear

[narrow widget]

it's the heavy sword after all

[hollow ibex]

make sure you're using HT and deathwhatever

the brumentum rename

[tame lodge]

It's good at killing
Lots ok killing
Just sucks against carapace

So bring kraks

Or a Helbore

Or a Zarona Revolver

Or bolter

[civic vessel]

Alo, somewhat new to the game, currently doing Recon Lasgun, what blessings work best with it? Dumdum and Infernus or Sustained Fire?

[dry cloak]

Dumdum infernus

[civic vessel]

Copy that, burn damage that good huh

Thank ye

[dry cloak]

Not exactly its simpyl paires best with how las weapons are built on vet for the most part

[civic vessel]

ah, and Sustained Fire isn't that good because it 's just frontloaded

[dry cloak]

Sustained fire would be best on the heaviest mark ssinc eit fires slowest

Also if you are using the very fast one try the mk6c/green one

It may suit you better

Also try the heavy variant

[civic vessel]

yeah big damage, slow shooting Marks/weapons

I'm being braindead and using Mk XII because dakka and poor ammo conservation

[dry cloak]

Do not be scared and experiment with weapons

[civic vessel]

but i'll give them a try, I used the MK XIV and it felt weird to throttle

[dry cloak]

Fun is what matter the most

[civic vessel]

also are there any channels that you can recommend for in-depth weapon info? or just info info

[tame lodge]

Here

If you're lucky

[dry cloak]

Class chats

[narrow widget]

hi im misinformation man™

[civic vessel]

Ah I meant vids and wotnot

absorbing info via second monitor background audio

[tame lodge]

Path ( @/path.exe ) will be here and he's writing the vet guide

[narrow widget]

just ping bro

idt he cares

[hollow ibex]

there aren't really super credible youtubers for DT i'm afraid

[narrow widget]

at grok is this true

[civic vessel]

alas

[tame lodge]

Ik
I just pester him enough on average

[civic vessel]

and then for perks anti flak and anti-unyielding?

[dry cloak]

Vids are not the best source of info outside of few youtubers

Best info quality is class chats here

[narrow widget]

at path is this true

[dry cloak]

Theres like 3

Reginald, hank and reginald again

[civic vessel]

i figured as much, i've been crossreferencing builds for info and testing stuff but I'm also not at the difficulty where i will start feeling the burn

[hollow ibex]

ryken's ok

[livid sphinx]

I just realized that i've been playing this game since release and I never understood what is movement tech

[hollow ibex]

he does some number crunching

[dry cloak]

Yeah rykens good

[narrow widget]

do not copy the gameslantern builds btw

[livid sphinx]

Anyone can explain what that is?

[dry cloak]

Forgot about him tbh

[narrow widget]

some ((((veteran squad leader)))) are absolute dog shit

[civic vessel]

I saw that, pretty funny build

[narrow widget]

hold down heavy on knoife and run
u move faster
thats movement™

side dodge off a ledge
u slingshot really fast
thats movement™

[civic vessel]

tested a couple lantern builds and again i'm probably not at the part where i start feeling pain. Planning on a meme knife-bleed build at some point

all i know is krak nade and voice of command all day, my lasgun build gona have to do smoke nade and executioner for a while to get some penances out of the way

[dry cloak]

Also go to pins on ogryn chat and read ogrynomicon. It will give you some insights on mechsnics outside of ogryn

[civic vessel]

i think i got that on a tab open, saw it on Steam guides

[dry cloak]

Thats all fun and good. But voc is gonna stale fast

[narrow widget]

unless u like the voice lines

FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT OR ANSWER TO ME

[dry cloak]

Yeah

I dont i like the ability

Me fave on vet was always infiltrste

[livid sphinx]

Which weapons can we use that on?

[narrow widget]

the ledge thing works on anything

as long as you have a ledge to dodge off of

[civic vessel]

I used to do Infiltrate Huntsman in Rathammer

[livid sphinx]

Ahh alright

[modest stag]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/veteran-squad-leader this best vet build?

[boreal sentinel]

Hey! Why do people like the shredder auto pistol? It seems to be worse than most weapons despite its high usage!

[hollow ibex]

likely one of the worst

don't even need to click in to see the build

[bronze quiver]

hey guys, anyone got a good list of classbuilds they could hook me up with? Havent played since february so I have to get used to the new reworks theyve done but all my loadouts are reset and those builds arent what they used to be. if anyone can help so I can hit the ground running again it would be great

[modest stag]

damn wtf, any recommendations?

[hollow ibex]

idk depends on what sort of build you want

[tame lodge]

Good finesse
Good maniacs damage
Good stagger
Very agile

[hollow ibex]

basic template/starting point

pick your ult and keystone

[narrow widget]

lol

lmao even

[modest stag]

damn its that bad? why is it bad?

[narrow widget]

it is in fact that bad

it ignores like every good node

[tame lodge]

The real good stuff is on the bottom right
That squad leader build has none of that

It also doesn't have Born Leader

How can you make a leader build without born leader

[hollow ibex]

well his vet wasn't born a leader

[hollow ibex]

it's a build that we often see people get baited by unfortunately...

it's been up on GL for a very long time

highly upvoted

and has always been bad

never trust upvoted GL builds

[modest stag]

:

guess ill look at youtube for a build

[heavy rover]

Nah not really. The "best" vet build is highly dependent on what you're looking for. In general, vet has a lot of variable builds that you can run even at havoc 40

[sonic kayak]

#veteran-class message right there buddy

[heavy rover]

Like here's mine that I run https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f3c6424-3c04-4446-9875-2fcdecb5b950/flexible-helbore-havoc

[hollow ibex]

even worse place to look tbh

if you want a specific type of build, ask here

[heavy rover]

Feel free to swap for kraks

Yeah, here in vet chat we can make even the most shitpost build viable

[unborn perch]

What the best talent tree configuration for a exe stance/marksman’s focus build?

[hollow ibex]

this is what i run

for heavy ranged focused build

intended for IAG/vigils/combat shotgun

[bright cliff]

chat would you all help me settle an argument

I'm inclined to think that the Zarona Revolver and the Accatran II (whichever the Torrent one is) Recon Lasgun are both better than any individual Helbore Lasgun

he told me this was ragebait and that I should post this here

am I stupid or is he stupid

[hollow ibex]

depends on the player

good players will do better with helbore

bad players recon las

[tame lodge]

Zarona, sure best auric weapon no problem
Recon better than helby? Hah that's a really funny joke

I ain't calling no one stupid though

[bright cliff]

tbh I don't even particularly like the recon lasguns I think I'm just a helbore hater

I hate the draw speed and he tells me that's not even a consideration

he also said the zarona was a gun for twinks

[tame lodge]

picture of that one femboy trying to lift a gallon

[bright cliff]

he's bullshitting me

does the helbore lasgun bayonet push ragers out of their attacks??

that can't be true

[tame lodge]

3 and 5 yes
I don't remember if 4 can after it got buffed

The stabs have good stagger
The slash not so much

[bright cliff]

hm

well if I concede the argument now I look like a fool so I'm gonna dig my heels in and say I'm right anyway even when I know I'm wrong

oh well

[tame lodge]

Weak Aura

Just say
"I wasn't familiar with your game"

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-apology-game-gif-7376410236799910476

[civic vessel]

that veteran squad leader build is everywhere

[tame lodge]

"top voted build on gameslantern"

[hollow ibex]

eh i don't think even that is true lol

[tame lodge]

Which one

The Zarona one?

[heavy rover]

Helbore slander

[tame lodge]

Mk3 is an all arounder

Mk4 is for people like me, that really loves chunky damage

Chunk chunk chunk

Mk5 is for people that wants a good lasgun

Lovely

[bright cliff]

is the mk5 the one with the silly melee on it

[tame lodge]

3 and 5 are stabs

[heavy rover]

Mk IV has the diagonal slash

[bright cliff]

nah I'm lookin the mk4 is the one with the diagonal

[heavy rover]

Oh woops typo

Fixed

[hollow ibex]

Yeah revolver

[tame lodge]

It basically hunts everything
Quick to draw
Mobile

Boss dps ain't much, that's for sure

[proper otter]

wild that bigger they are is locked out of this and exe stancei s hardly even played in the first place, but like you get to take al three extras on crazy ass abilities like stimm pack

[hollow ibex]

yeah it's good for sure, i just wouldn't call it the best auric weapon

[tall torrent]

revolver is a very diff playstyle from helbore since most builds that use it are melee spec hybrid playstyle
recon tho, usually not as good as helbore for killing priority targets

[surreal rune]

youd think both would simply be baked in and there would be more interesting nodes

[proper otter]

yeah seriously

i feel like the helbore is the only thing that makes exe stance usable cause of how easy you can reset with the bayonet

[surreal rune]

you can swap to your melee and kill enemies the same

executioner stance is still refreshed if they are viable for the mark

[surreal rune]

wdym

[proper otter]

i just struggle to keep the exe stance going on other ranged weapons cause of all the swapping

bayonet you can just never put the thing away its nice, definitely a skill issue lol

[narrow widget]

just stick next to the flame psyker
or generally the person with good horde clear

[proper otter]

yeah

[narrow widget]

theyll protect u while u shoot the priority targets

at least a good one will

[proper otter]

lol yeah i was abt to say, randoms are rather hit or miss with that

i think thats another reason i find the bayonet's reliability so nice

[tall torrent]

just take the bigger they are, it's the better choice usually

[livid sphinx]

I mean why use the bayonet if you can just whip out your big black Duelling Sword

[livid sphinx]

Anyone here aware of the plasma tech you can use to increase its rate of fire?

[modest stag]

whats the mod that lets you charge helbore lasgun by holding rightclick (ADS)?

[hollow ibex]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/496

[modest stag]

ty

[fast shale]

Decided to go vet with kraks and a team full of hobos with bazookas, mofos use the thing to never use em again

[sharp epoch]

hack

[hollow ibex]

true

[modest stag]

🖨️

[quick seal]

hive ganger lowkey sucks

super squishy, tries to be a glass cannon but actually has worse DPS,

[hollow ibex]

hmm?

[quick seal]

all of them look the same,

[hollow ibex]

just gotta abuse the right talents

[quick seal]

and also my recon lasgun shoots faster. I'm COMING BACK TO YOU #veteran-class

[tall torrent]

hvs dps is very high with the right weapon & build tho

[quick seal]

my loyal krak grenades out-DPS everything

[fair shale]

Thats not dps that's burst

[neat shadow]

its a part of dps

[fair shale]

I mean sure, but i dont think kraks qualifiy for a dps item

Theyre very specifically a burst removal tool

[fast shale]

When the scum run out of bazookas and a pack crusher start spawning and you se em start running your way

[tepid panther]

I don't really like the helbore because of the charging.

[tepid panther]

Which mark of vigil do you use?

[hollow ibex]

colum's my least disliked one

i don't really like the vigils

[tepid panther]

I see. Which gun do you usually use with that build?

[hollow ibex]

my main pick would be vraks IAG

i have slightly different builds for agri CS and bistol sniping builds

[tepid panther]

Can you share your bistol one? I love using it.

[hollow ibex]

here ya go

[tepid panther]

Thank you!

[hollow ibex]

bistol's honestly pretty great... if you base your entire build around it

[mystic lodge]

My current build with Columnus IAG and Mk7 Dclaw

[fresh thistle]

hey is a keystoneless vet viable or nah?

[mystic lodge]

Yes I would say

[hollow ibex]

generally not a good idea tho

the keystones are pretty strong

[tepid panther]

Is it worth charging helbore mkv or just shoot it normally?

[hollow ibex]

you should charge

the rate of fire once you have WOF up is very fast anyway

if you want to spam uncharged shots, use mk iv

though the charged shots will be considerably slower

[mystic lodge]

If you wanna spam uncharged shots, use Vigil autoguns

[fresh thistle]

does vet still have that passive where their immune to surpression?

[hollow ibex]

yes

its baked in now

[mystic lodge]

yes

[sterile garnet]

@urban notch you aint even bad. you did fine bro

[urban notch]

Thank you 🙂

[fresh thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-on-wait-a-minute-somethings-aint-right-hold-up-somethings-wrong-here-gif-17361118

you're telling me that the passive that makes vet immune to surpression is now part of the class?

[hollow ibex]

yup

i mean it was basically a point tax talent

so during the rework, it got baked into the class

so you don't have to waste a point for it

[fresh thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-meme-big-brain-big-brain-meme-big-brain-time-gif-2441110471562975014

did they also fix the grenadier passive where the additional grendade goes in a random direction?

[hollow ibex]

it's intended

so 2 kraks don't stick to the same target for example

[mystic lodge]

I mean, hes the vet, the shooting class

[hollow ibex]

i mean it only works sometimes anyway

[fresh thistle]

no shit lol

[hollow ibex]

eh vet's more of a hybrid class still

[mystic lodge]

If there's anyone used to being shot at, its the Vet

[hollow ibex]

you'll note that the strongest talents are all on the melee side of the tree lol

[fresh thistle]

like onslaught

[hollow ibex]

onslaught is shit

has only gotten worse over time

[fresh thistle]

ya joking me onslaught use to be the goat

what happened to it?

[hollow ibex]

it used to be dubious even back then

[mystic lodge]

every class is a hybrid class

[hollow ibex]

now it's just pointless

[hollow ibex]

not in the sense that vet is

[fresh thistle]

what so brittleness is not worth it?

[hollow ibex]

brittleness is good

it's just that onslaught isn't

[mystic lodge]

maybe if they reduced the number of shots

[hollow ibex]

it's really only worth it on 2 guns: vraks IAG and recon las mk xii

and then it's really only worth it against one enemy type: crushers

vraks IAG doesn't even need onslaught to shred crushers

which leaves recon las mk xii

crushers got their hp buffed massively

[fresh thistle]

hehe i use las mk xii

[hollow ibex]

so even with onslaught, recon las takes waaaaaay too long to kill a crusher

the dps just isn't there

[fresh thistle]

ya kidding me

[livid sphinx]

Its infernus that kills a crusher

the dot

[hollow ibex]

there's a lot of ways to kill crushers, but recon las takes... a while

[hybrid plover]

Crusher hp buff did it no favors.

[livid sphinx]

not the recon lasgun itself

[hollow ibex]

i'm accounting for infernus

[livid sphinx]

oh okay

[fresh thistle]

not my las recon xii

[hybrid plover]

40% brittleness fire DoT doesn't do that much damage to justify it.

[mystic lodge]

onslaught should just be stacking rending on weakspot kills

[fresh thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633

[hybrid plover]

That being said. Could argue you could use it as a brittleness buffer to then finish it off with melee but

Eh

That's just weird.

[mystic lodge]

or you could just yeet a krak

[hollow ibex]

yeah

[mystic lodge]

thats too much attention given to a single crusher

[hybrid plover]

Yeah like, you have way better options.

[hollow ibex]

kraks got massively buffed

[fresh thistle]

think i'd rather yeet a zealot towards a crusher

[mystic lodge]

Onslaught should stack rending on weakspot kills. Fits the name better

[hollow ibex]

which makes taking onslaught all the more pointless tbh

[mystic lodge]

the Zealot yeets itself

[fresh thistle]

that is very true

[mystic lodge]

Hot take: Id rather have an Ogryn on my team than an Arbites

[fresh thistle]

ugh guess imma have to get back into modding if imma use sights on these blasted vraks IAG

[mystic lodge]

the sights are easy to use no?

maybe if they could just add a little tritium dot on the front sight post, thatd be perfect

[fresh thistle]

i dont like many of the iron sights

[mystic lodge]

the IAGs literally have the best iron sights

the IAGs should get a tritium dot like this on the front sight post to make it easier to aim in low light

[fresh thistle]

yeah idk why but everytime in the past i modded darktide i always ended up putting sights on the vraks weapons

probs just built weird i am

[mystic lodge]

just built weak

real vets use what they are issued

[fresh thistle]

i mean if we had customization of weapons like tub of lard shark originally had planned wouldn't need to mod

also i'm not weak i enjoy customization

[tame lodge]

Everyone knows Arby's is mid

So it isn't hot take

Maybe lukewarm

https://tenor.com/view/sae-itoshi-sae-blue-locc-blue-lock-edit-itoshisaeedit-gif-962935594415130151

[mystic lodge]

Id rather have an Ogryn on my team than Hivescum

[tame lodge]

Hiver been out for 3 days, I don't have a fully fledged opinion about them atm

Except they're hilarious

[tall torrent]

it's never occured to me that boltpistol is the deagle equivalent in this game
no wonder it's ass

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-time-to-stop-gif-9416155803997449261

[hollow ibex]

i won't stand for this deagle slander

but yeah i'd say bistol is the closest to a deagle in this game

then we get people in HIV-chat saying that the stubpis are dual deagles

i mean lmfao

[tall torrent]

all deagle slander is based

[hollow ibex]

you think dinky pistols like that would be deagles??

[tall torrent]

just like all psyker slander is morally correct

[azure narwhal]

Forget deagle slander, slandering bolt weapons?

That is peak male fantasy right there

[tall torrent]

boltpistol in this game is really

off

everything about it is off

[azure narwhal]

Well yeah truthfully speaking very few 40k games have anything to a T lol

That's because a game like that wouldn't be successful anyways

People care more for what's fun

Hell

[tall torrent]

no it's that the feel of the weapon is fully off

the way it reloads is off

[azure narwhal]

Most don't care for 40k itself

[tall torrent]

the way it shoots is off

the dmg profile is off

[mystic lodge]

they are a glass cannon

[tall torrent]

everything is off

[mystic lodge]

sometimes just an ass cannon

[azure narwhal]

[hollow ibex]

def with some players lol

[tame lodge]

Imagine reloading your gun without being fancy

[tall torrent]

I like most reload animations in this game even tho they're purposefully scaled slower than they should be

but boltpistol reload genuinely is just weird

most reload animations in this game only look normal with around +20% reload speed

[smoky hare]

Hello chat, im trying to get good to solo what weapons do you recommend for a VoC build for the current build of the game? Weapons, perks, curios etc, all of it

give me

ALL of the info

[gleaming patrol]

Sorry I just noticed, Is versatile fighter not good? It seems really good with weapon specialist.

[hollow ibex]

what's versatile fighter? 🤔

[gleaming patrol]

Sorry agile engemet I meant

No idea why it was called versitle fighter in my head lol

btw this is the build https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0866dfd-bb71-4e6e-9809-819bf0320093/meta-8

I want to try havoc 40 and got this recommended if anyone have have tips do let me know I would be grateful ^_^

[solar valve]

is the guarantee weapon swap mod breaking for anyone else?

[modest stag]

anyone got a good build that's not helbore lasgun? hate the ironsights on this gun

[mystic lodge]

do u wanna try IAG?

This build works for me

[tepid panther]

I've just realized... I've been using a gimped P Sword this whole time.

Cleave damage instead of cleave targets.

[hollow ibex]

oooof

it was prob still good tho

[tepid panther]

I definitely felt the lack of damage in hordes

[livid hill]

i love the green laspistol

exec stance green laspistol is so fun