veteran-class

[steep flower]

And build it requires (only WS build with flechette & manstopper blessings)

Portable pots are good
Can make a meal AND protect yourself

[unreal nova]

Also good melee weapon.

[tame lodge]

Senshi carrying a wok

That is also a shield

[austere mica]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9fad575e-f27e-44fc-bd9f-f62dd7ed4001/how-to-have-fun

[midnight wyvern]

cat

[umbral scaffold]

scout lasgun dump stat?

recon or whatever its called

[silver patrol]

collateral

[umbral scaffold]

do granade kills still count as ranged?

[inner iris]

You dump mobility too

Depends on preference imo

[hollow ibex]

mob does something, even if not much

collateral does nothing

[sturdy crescent]

Is it really worth it photo

[unreal nova]

Recon is collateral dump. There is only one use for mobility dump and you still need to get the drop on said fart bomber. You can stagger them out of throwing a tox bomb if you shoot almost immediately with a mobility dump when they start pulling it.

Collateral dump will always fail to stagger.

[gilded wraith]

Does laspistol break into the top 5 vet ranged weapons post rework?

[void dragon]

Laspistol was always quite the powerhouse of the veteran, specially melee ones, the rework made it just better

[hot thorn]

lads a question

how tf does this trait work?

where's th explosion?

and the reduction for that matter

Power falchion - the weapon

[silver patrol]

they are all there

it's bad tho

[void dragon]

iirc the explosion is a really small stagger wave, doesnt stagger many stuff
as for the reduction is the heat bar for the activation mode, basically on overheating it instantly reduce the time its on lock down

[silver patrol]

of course it's still locked down tho

[void dragon]

as Dónte said, sadly, its bad

the stagger being so bad that is worse than a shove is really annoying

[hot thorn]

so barely noticable

[void dragon]

yeah, the overheat reduction is nice and all, but the sockwave being so small is seriously terrible

[hot thorn]

like in the meatgrinder i cant even see it

[hybrid plover]

Me and Cole really do just have carbon copies of the same thing save for like one talent being different lmao

[void dragon]

It's visual indicators are ludicrously small, just as how good it is

[hot thorn]

damn.

[void dragon]

I wish the stagger was better, but the reality is different

[serene bough]

How do people build their laspistol

Dundum+internus

And then go for 15 stacks mmf node?

[hollow ibex]

only if you're going for a ranged build

[hollow ibex]

that's how i'd do it

or dumdum ghost

laspiss is a good melee sidearmo too

[void dragon]

Mmf is optional to use as main weapon, and some swap internus with ghost iirc

[serene bough]

Doesn't laspistol have crazy high finesse scaling though

[hollow ibex]

yeh

[serene bough]

I wouldnt think mmf was optional because of this

[hollow ibex]

it works well with MMF

but it's still a very good melee build sidearm

[serene bough]

I see I see

[hollow ibex]

MMF is if what you're looking for is "ilas but better"

[hybrid plover]

Which is why it also works with WS for melee builds

Since naturally you're always getting a crit on your first shot.

And that crit does the big damage.

[void dragon]

I feel that's the Mk5 helbore with weight of fire, LasPistol feels like a beast of it's own

[hybrid plover]

Plus the extra RoF is actually quite nice when you can get ten stacks.

[hollow ibex]

well MkX laspis with full left side build is closer to ilas imo

point and click adventure

doesn't need to charge

and all that

[serene bough]

I was using laspistol MMF with inferus + that crit blessing it has

[hollow ibex]

desperado?

kinda ass

[serene bough]

I forget what its called but 20% crit on successful dodge

[hollow ibex]

the uptime on it is terrible

[serene bough]

Yeah that

I was consistenting keeping 75% crit chance if I just danced around and fired with the weapon

But i wasn't sure if it was worth using over dumdum

[hollow ibex]

def not

dumdum is 100% mandatory on any weapon that has it

[void dragon]

Dumdum is must imo

[serene bough]

Ok Ill have to switch to dumdum

Do people take rending with it

[gilded wraith]

Wonder why path left infernus of laspistol in his word guide?

[serene bough]

I know it has good flak dmg already so wasn't sure

[gilded wraith]

Off

[hollow ibex]

yeah

cuz maniac ADMs are terrible

and if you run MMF build

Mk X can fuck up crushers with rending strikes

[serene bough]

Interesting

I didnt think people used Mk X laspistol

[hollow ibex]

it's mostly for deadshot memes

works well

just boring

[gilded wraith]

Gets you close to helbore ammo economy

[slow spade]

Yeah its weird how bad its maniac damage is

Lasguns are typically good vs maniac

[void dragon]

Even with Deadshot the other mk works just fine imo

[hybrid plover]

Actually this wasn't too much of an outlier.

Helbore used to be God awful against maniacs too until they buffed it.

And adjusted the maniac adms significantly to make it a much better specialist sniper.

[slow spade]

Indeed but that was a while ago

[hybrid plover]

Not too long ago.

But yeah.

[slow spade]

Fatshark update rate really fucks with sense of time lol

[mystic glade]

my boy ALANIARIS completed havoc 40 before auric

[slow spade]

To be fair, Havoc gives more mats than auric if you just go for the weekly

So I get it

[fair shale]

Its not like you need auric as a precursor either if you start in lower havocs

[hybrid plover]

One of the carries of All Time

[fair shale]

All 200k damage done by the dog

[slow spade]

Yeah impressively bad performance

[hybrid plover]

"15 deaths"

Yeah I see it.

[slow spade]

But somehow I'm not surprised

[hybrid plover]

Honestly not as bad as it could have been.

[fair shale]

That has to be at least what, a havoc 25?

Whiteshield second class is 20 or 25?

[hybrid plover]

Contextually, that seems to be 40.

Someone probably let him in for shits and giggles.

And it ended up working out because the team was actually good enough to carry them lmao

[fair shale]

Oh fuck that is 40 lmfao

I missed the funny message looking at numbers

[hybrid plover]

That arbitrator is a fortunate one.

[fair shale]

Hey, bros better than I am

Hes got the havoc forged title and I do not

[hybrid plover]

I yearn for my 40 so I can do goofy shit like this

But this season has been particularly dicey.

[fair shale]

This season has caused me to play other games entirely cause I find rot armor crushers so miserably boring

[sharp epoch]

is that from winning 1 40?

[fair shale]

I believe so

[hybrid plover]

Ye

[sharp epoch]

I feel like you can try to hop into any 40 some are easier depending on luck

[fair shale]

I consistently got rejected from any game higher than my CL

So yeah in theory I guess you could

[hollow ibex]

it's an option if you want to shoot at crushers with a las weapon lol

[hybrid plover]

I'll be real. Dealing with rot armor crushers has forced me to somehow become even better of a player.

[slow spade]

Havoc 40s ironically might accept you by virtue of they don't care about losing

[fair shale]

I play fucking arb so it's not forcing me to get better, I just BtL them and click on them longer than normal crushers

[hybrid plover]

I joined a 40 with a CL23

[fair shale]

Yeah, in theory

[sharp epoch]

made me a krak spammer

[hybrid plover]

And ended up clutching that 40 on zealot lol

[fair shale]

I've gotten to 37

Thats it

[hybrid plover]

Funny enough, I actually tend to time my kraks a lot more now

[sharp epoch]

yeah getting two or three crushers in one is nice

[fair shale]

Ive used every grenade with the logic that "two is one, one is none"

[hybrid plover]

Try to get them funneled through a doorway

I've gotten like

[sharp epoch]

what works also is if you got a teammate with stagger and you throw it when they all fall over in a pile

[hybrid plover]

5 crushers with one at one point doing that without lethal prox

[sharp epoch]

i cant even tell how many i kill with all the gas going around

[hybrid plover]

It's real nice when your demo team procs on the kills too

[frank monolith]

Can you name your acceptors

[hybrid plover]

This was like

A good while back so i can't remember:(

I don't even think I have the scoreboard info for it

[frank monolith]

Do you remember their class by any chance 👀

[willow prairie]

man zarona cs fuck actually

shit have pretty high mpa

[hybrid plover]

Think it was arby, vet and psyker?

[willow prairie]

so fullbore activate pretty consistently

[frank monolith]

Was it vent psyker and btl arbiter

Sorry for jogging your memory would have been my group, since when we get a 3 stack going we might accept a homeless clearance person for fun

[sharp epoch]

calling you homeless omg

[frank monolith]

Idea behind is, if they have any 40 clearance they have a higher chance of finding homes in other people's party

[hybrid plover]

Did that zealot end up being the last one alive at one point with a pogryn breathing down their neck?

Until they were respectfully chopped up with a Marty tac axe?

[thorn lark]

Lethal prox boost Krak radius?

[willow prairie]

yes

work for all grenade

idk about smoke

[sharp epoch]

it works for smoke

[frank monolith]

Probably not usually it's the arbiter with shield maul, he managed to rez vet while a rit dh was on him and vet got the person up

[sharp epoch]

I don't really feel a difference in the radius changing

could be a 1m radius changing to 1.25 or less

[hybrid plover]

It helps more with the outer radius tbh

I've gotten like over 60+ kills on one proxed krak before.

[thorn lark]

woh

[calm shard]

technically yes

but kraks only kill in their epicenter which is like...2 meters or something?

[willow prairie]

which one is the good heavy sword again

as in least dogshit

[tame lodge]

Essentially they are all the same

But you're probably looking for the mk9

[hollow ibex]

VI is what the chads use

[tame lodge]

It just looks better than the others

[willow prairie]

man im washed

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-when-you-find-out-your-goat-washed-goat-washed-cars-gif-1199141646612804836

[willow prairie]

i died twice to burster

[hot thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-kanye-west-ye-kobe-kobe-bean-gif-2995326171300684959

[hollow ibex]

Well it also has the cooler moveset

[willow prairie]

its that bad

[sharp epoch]

wow noob

imagine dying in darktide

[hot thorn]

im imagining it

what now?

[frigid shuttle]

Now stop doing it.

https://tenor.com/view/troy-achilles-brad-pitt-gif-14097970

[hollow ibex]

Peak cinema

[hot thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/nordic-hyperborea-agartha-viking-gif-9573023894945166641

ok now you go drink a glass of water

[buoyant aurora]

That feeling when youre doorcamping and the game spawns 4 bursters behind it

[hybrid plover]

This is why you don't doorcamp.

[buoyant aurora]

You're right, next time I should just toss a shredder instead as it works through the door 🤔

Elevate the door camping strats

[inner iris]

do opening salvo and lock and loaded (clip size) have synergy with each other?

like the the opening salvo portion increase with the increased clip size

or any the base clip before the increase

[hollow ibex]

Yeah but opening salvo just isn’t great either way tbh

[inner iris]

probably true

im just a bit obessed with ammo maxing my lasguns

[hollow ibex]

Lasguns already have such good Econ with shock trooper that it’s just not needed

[tame lodge]

Fuck it

Efficiency Shock Trooper build

[calm shard]

no my favorite vigilant blessing/bad talent tree talent :(

[sharp epoch]

you got like a babillion shots already 😭

[midnight wyvern]

real

been running with newer players bumping them into 40 to traumatize them

doesn't lose me anything but if they want the heat, who am I to decline

[hybrid plover]

I wanna get my 40 so i can do this lmao

This seasons got me fucked up

[hot thorn]

40 as in age?

you'll get there

[hybrid plover]

Havoc

[hot thorn]

that's called a mid-life crisis

[surreal rune]

do people even talk about zealot in zealot class

or is it just another general chat

[sonic kayak]

Well, that channel is General 1, General is General 2

[hollow ibex]

It’s the off topic chat

[surreal rune]

checks out

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-country-audrey-james-thats-the-nicest-thing-anyones-ever-said-to-me-compliment-that-is-the-nicest-thing-anybody-has-said-to-me-gif-6060803095792836446

[quick seal]

i keep reading about the marksman focus crouch thing

has that talent been removed? I can't find out what it's called nor can I find it on the skill tree

[sly orchid]

lol lmao

i wonder how many times this mod has broken rule 11 by now

[narrow frost]

@turbid wave is this real

[turbid wave]

Id never say such a thing in my life

[narrow frost]

whew

[tame lodge]

💀

[narrow frost]

close call

[turbid wave]

: )

[narrow frost]

https://tenor.com/view/astralspiff-spiff-astral-astral-spiff-loaf-gif-1331290147387807855

[hollow ibex]

No longer a thing

Crab walking days are over

[quick seal]

oh so i'm fucked up and screwed in the butt

[turbid wave]

Also we literally just banned a guy in here 2 hours ago over being racist to aboriginals

so dont start lol

[narrow frost]

bruh

[quick seal]

there's gotta be a better way

[hollow ibex]

It’s way easier now actually

[tame lodge]

I admit
I used AI to generate Dilara saying that

[hollow ibex]

Since stacks don’t decay from movement anymore

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/gülmek-komik-gif-12950352696137374051

[quick seal]

what should I do, then? what is the optimal way? just play normally with recon lasgun?

[wild vortex]

is what I'm doing

at least it doesn't make me want to uninstall

[hollow ibex]

Yeah for the penance

[blazing jetty]

Stacks decay regardless of movement, but they do so way slower now

[quick seal]

i know it's supposed to be like "i'm an elite sniper and I pick off enemies with headshots" but i'm trying to do that sort of thing with the helbore but I just can't output enough dps. I think it's just better to use recon lasgun and point in the general direction and hope some are headhsots

[hollow ibex]

Or get stacks

And melee a horde

You don’t need ranged kills

[blazing jetty]

Also melee attacks delay the decay

I mean melee weakspot hits

[stuck gorge]

any weak spot hit does :)

[stuck gorge]

you don’t even have to use sniper type weapons

any gun benefits from it

[quick seal]

yes, acknowledged. I am just saying that the crosshair icon and the marksman's focus makes it sound like it's a marksman thing, but nope. It's really more of a spam recon lasgun and melee enemies thing.

[swift river]

Man I'm glad I earned that Veteran badge early...

[stuck gorge]

yea just unfortunate how it be

[hollow ibex]

Tbf

[stuck gorge]

my days of having crouch set to toggle and dodging across the floor are long past

[hollow ibex]

If you’re not doing penance cheese

The keystone playstyle makes perfect sense

And works well

[stuck gorge]

can’t hellbore onetap crushers with mmf and a few other buffs

[blazing jetty]

I like using bolter with marksman's focus

Pops heads pretty consistently

And the iron sights are easy to work with

[hollow ibex]

In theory but not practical or recommended

[swift river]

What penance was all headshots for an entire round? I can't recall...

[stuck gorge]

Skirmisher as a whole is kinda iffy for me

Sure it’s 25% but like I just don’t dodge slide frequently for it to remain active

[hollow ibex]

It’s not bad

[swift river]

I just remember that you could cheese it by disconnecting and reconnecting right at the end, headshot like one or two dudes, and then be off

[hollow ibex]

The uptime is good

And the damage is stupid strong

[mortal aspen]

i mean, it is? i don't think recon benefits much from mmf, melee only keeps up the stacks but gains no benefit

[mortal aspen]

sprinting or dodge\sliding at least once every 8s is pretty easy to achieve

i think it's 8s, right?

[stuck gorge]

I just don’t dodge slide in melee enough

[hollow ibex]

Something like that. It’s pretty generous

[swift river]

Only dodge slide while shooting. Like all true action heroes

[narrow widget]

hot take this is GOOD

healthy for the game

[swift river]

Powerslide into death

[hollow ibex]

I think it’s just funny that revolver reaches the one shot breakpoint easier than helbore lol

[narrow widget]

revolver has 0 ammo it balances out

[swift river]

That's why we run Weapon Specialist with the Always Prepared perk. Always have a one-shot bullet in the chamber

[hollow ibex]

Not that bad outside of havoc

If you’re talking about ammo reserves

If you’re talking about clip size lock n load is stupid strong

[swift river]

I still love running knife and revolver

Pure gunslinger

[narrow widget]

true...

[calm shard]

real

[calm shard]

now hang on I do not remember it taking this much to one shot in my testing of it

[hollow ibex]

Hmm it did for me

On Mk iv with carapace

[slow sky]

i hate the 1 wound filter

[narrow widget]

theres a mod that turns it off

[calm shard]

BiD is not needed for the one shot

[hot thorn]

SEX!

also improve the power falchion blessings

[calm shard]

or CQK

oh right I should've tested point blank so longshot was giving the minimum damage boost too

[hot thorn]

this one 'ere specifically

[turbid wave]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-warhammer-darktide-warhammer-40k-40k-zealot-gif-16257746668960706185

[hot thorn]

you are 61?

[austere mica]

I just watched state censorship in real time
I know what you did

[hollow ibex]

Rigged and fake

Too lazy to test again

[calm shard]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946661851322789908/1009316500856918066/image0.gif

[slow sky]

honest to god

[slow sky]

i think hotshot is better than weight of fire

[calm shard]

yeah prob

[narrow widget]

https://tenor.com/view/jackpot-trillion-dollars-rich-money-gif-9799459745232419380

[calm shard]

helbore hits like a freight train full charged or not

I rarely actually fire it more than half charge just because it kills anyways

[hollow ibex]

OK that’s true on mk4

[slow sky]

hotshot basically ensures you get a double kill if theyre lined up, or a random guy doesnt block a shot

and yeah its on the slowest charging one

tbh idk why youd use the others cuz half charging exists

[hollow ibex]

MkV is a beast

Honestly think the middle child is the worst off rn

[swift river]

I honestly prefer the IIIa just for the melee attack...

[calm shard]

MkV and IIIa have the same melee

[surreal rune]

what is

the mk4's melee good for

[spark helm]

Mk4 for what?

I don't remember most of these marks.

[hollow ibex]

Giving haircuts to heretics

[swift river]

I've used the MkV! But only after getting the Krieg skin for it 😄

[surreal rune]

hellbore

[spark helm]

Ah. Idk

I hate the bayonets.

[swift river]

How can you hate the bayonets, they're so useful

Annoying zombie in the way and don't want to swtich to melee? Bayonet

Stun ragers? Bayonet

[tame lodge]

Mk4s bayonet is just weird

[swift river]

The slash is horrible

[tame lodge]

But alas, can't be good at everything

[swift river]

Also, definitely get the Legacy of Vraks skin while it's up. The iron sights are so much better >.<

[wild vortex]

I still find it insane we can't just add sights / flashlights to our weapons

it's so stupid lol

[swift river]

As cool as helbore is though, I still prefer running Recon Las

Hmm... Experimenting with builds and the only thing that really gives me trouble is the armored ogryns...

[calm shard]

have you tried shooting them with the helbore

's how I kill them

or kraks

[swift river]

Eh, still takes 2-4 shots with Helbore...

[calm shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1435777070746697751/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.11.05_-_17.43.50.03.DVR_online-video-cutter.com.mp4?ex=690d3319&is=690be199&hm=89693bcce5d1f182ea3ec1846aeb00272c9babd46cf5cbfacca1c766b1b81c2f&

have you tried shooting them like...harder

also even 2 shotting them with MkV is a LOT OF DAMAGE

oh it doesn't need marksman to two sot

Okay MkV I didn't know you were built like that

[hollow ibex]

lol yeah mkv fucking wrecks

[heavy rover]

damn, mk V, I apologize for giving it shit

I wasn't aware of your game

[calm shard]

it just uuuuuh

does that I guess

[void dragon]

what maps you think having smoke in havoc is must?

[sonic kayak]

All of em

If you're not managing without smokes, then quite simply, the team is bad/Ogryn isn't doing his job

[tame lodge]

What are the ones in rotation

Silo Cluster (best map in the game) is the infamous "what the hell is cover 🗣️ " map

[dapper coyote]

I like the first mission one, no extra gimmicks, just one horde stand and kill da big boss, call it a day

[heavy rover]

only time i'm not running smokes on havoc is when it's purple (encroaching garden)

if that happens, then I switch to krak grenades

[tame lodge]

From the campaign?
Didn't play it

[dapper coyote]

Yea that one, but you can get it into the rotation once a while and i like it, because it's short

No gimmicks, just you, 3 other idiots, and the boss

[swift river]

Man, I just can't seem to get that kinda damage... Even with the same build and weapon perks

What level is that?

[calm shard]

auric

[swift river]

No no, the meat grinder, what difficulty?

[calm shard]

yeah

auric

so damnation

[swift river]

Man, I dunno... I'm just not gettin that kinda damage 😄

[calm shard]

oh wait for the uh

mk v I run armourbane instead of weight of fire

[heavy rover]

armourbane gang

[swift river]

You didn't have armourbane in that video though

[tame lodge]

Yeah because that was a 1 shot

Casual bane L

As always

[swift river]

I can't pull 6500 😄
All my shots are doing between 2000 and 2500

[calm shard]

yeah that one was Mk IV

[swift river]

I have a very stupid idea...

To make a build... Focused on Bolt Rifle and all the grenades

Or bolter, rather

[hybrid plover]

B-but.

I don't bring smokes. 😢

[sonic kayak]

O yeah I forgot

I'll make an exception for you

[hybrid plover]

:D

[surreal rune]

making a new character has me seeing some questionable arbites players

[misty minnow]

Lol

What do you see?

[surreal rune]

nothing good

[fair shale]

Leveling a character through the campaign will have you seeing some shit tbh

[sonic kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/jensen-ackles-approval-supernatural-gif-3464776

You aite, Gremlin

[obtuse finch]

this alr?

[hybrid plover]

it could be better

[obtuse finch]

Any tips, then, boss?

[hybrid plover]

first, what weapons?

[obtuse finch]

boltpistol, knife

[hybrid plover]

i gotchu

question

are you using lethal prox on bistol

[obtuse finch]

yeah

[hybrid plover]

https://gyazo.com/2245be248eb738206556c26f52644fcd

i'd use something like that

i suppose another thing really

what exactly is the build intended for?

like, difficulty wise

cuz i could change it accordingly for that

[dapper coyote]

Chat asking about the Focus keystone, does it also stack upon other bonuses like bring it down and superiority complex?

[calm shard]

be a bit weird if it didn't

[dapper coyote]

Aight, that's flat 50% more dmg towards bosses and ogryns then

Also is competitive urge good?

I think its one of those gambler nodes

[hollow ibex]

meh

win more talent

there are better choices

[dapper coyote]

Also what does covert operator meant by "ranged backstab attacks"?

Is it shooting at the back or is it melee

[hollow ibex]

shooting in the back yeah

meme talent

[dapper coyote]

Lol

That's fucking weird and funny

[hollow ibex]

good for burgle i guess lol

[dapper coyote]

The Backshots node

Quite literally

[modern swallow]

Is the helbore any good?

[dapper coyote]

Yes

Havoc viable

[calm shard]

best ranged weapon in the entire game

on any class

[modern swallow]

Yall ain't messing with me are you?

[dapper coyote]

No

[hollow ibex]

helbore is very good yeah

[modern swallow]

I remember this gun being considered horrible a few weeks ago before the veteran changes

[calm shard]

it honestly was still good back then it was just fucking awful to use xd

[dapper coyote]

Correct build and enough skills allowed you to get 6k per shot

[modern swallow]

[dapper coyote]

It is awful due to its sight

[calm shard]

6K per shot is not correct build damage for helbore

correct build damage for helbore is more like 9K into carapace

20K+ into everything else

[dapper coyote]

It can be more

But its awful to use because of its awful sights for some people

[calm shard]

the sights were changed to be less bad recently

[dapper coyote]

With a bit of practice or modding

You can negate this issue

[modern swallow]

Welp

[calm shard]

the weapon customization mod had to be rewritten and the sight offsets are all wrong

[modern swallow]

Guess I'm dying on Vraks now

[calm shard]

the sights thing isn't a problem anymore

[dapper coyote]

Not all, Combat shotguns still have that issue

Wrong zeros

[calm shard]

they just gave the helbores the infantry autogun irons and removed their old unique ones xd

[dapper coyote]

Because its so awful

[orchid hemlock]

even before the talent buffs, helbore was probably one of the best range on vet

[midnight wyvern]

good competition on the top end

[steep flower]

Maybe for agri cause of the precise slug but otherwise nah

[dapper coyote]

The zeroing for combat shotgun with the optics is off is what i meant

The centre dot is where the bullets SHOULD go for, but for combat shotguns its the top bit in the circle

Yellow is where the combat shotgun is zeroed at, the red is where other guns is zeroed at, (you need to zoom in because i highlighted it)

[steep flower]

Ye its barely visible

[vestal arch]

Is the SpearHead Bolter a decent weapon against elite mobs?

[narrow frost]

yes

it has good single target damage

good for sniping

[vestal arch]

I see, im kinda new in this game and looking for builds but I heard multiple people saying that gameslantern isnt the place to find some builds

[narrow frost]

They would be correct in that regard

its alot of outdated, incorrect information

and is often build only for their playstyle

which doesnt translate easily when you copy and paste their build

This chat is a good place to ask but dont forget no build that others give will fit your playstyle perfectly

so its good to experiment

[vestal arch]

Oh, that does have a point

atleast it serve as a reference

[dapper coyote]

We have the ultra violence builders, we have the railgun builders

[vestal arch]

Im sort of confused on what you said

[dapper coyote]

There's alot of diverse builds depending on playstyle

[dapper coyote]

Ultra violence build are DPS maxxing in every way, Railgun build are DPS maxxing but focused mainly on the gun

[vestal arch]

huh, I see

well I want to survive a bit longer and go toe to toe on elites without heavily relying on teammates

while dealing some damage

[narrow frost]

Okay, one sec

[dapper coyote]

Well thankfully, that this class is jack of all trades

Sort of

[narrow frost]

This is a good framework

With 3 extra talents

You can switch nades and aura to whatever

Know that with krak grenades you will need the extra damage for nades to 1 tap crushers in havoc if I remember correctly

[dapper coyote]

I'd change the FI to serrated blades imo

[narrow frost]

FI is more applicable

But serrated is good for some weapons, yes

[jaunty sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/lf-vegeta-grn-vegeta-vegeta-base-vegeta-saiyan-saga-gif-16922828199677659792

[narrow frost]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946661851322789908/1009316500856918066/image0.gif

[dapper coyote]

True but i feel FI is once a while becomes a clutch

[jaunty sphinx]

How it feels to slam plasma down a crowded corridor

[dapper coyote]

Serated blades just gives you fat DPS for all melee

[narrow frost]

Naur

https://tenor.com/view/astralspiff-spiff-astral-astral-spiff-loaf-gif-1331290147387807855

[jaunty sphinx]

Gato...

[narrow frost]

Loaf

[jaunty sphinx]

loaf

[dapper coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277023186902585420/1414346844804481145/7yc1ggmmouif1.gif

[narrow frost]

@vestal arch

[vestal arch]

Thanks, Ill try it out

[jaunty sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-gif-19585502

[frigid shuttle]

hmm, have you tried it with other optics too?

[dapper coyote]

Yes

[frigid shuttle]

and you have the latest weapon customizer from github?

[dapper coyote]

With the laspistols optics, they all landed in tbe upper ring

I did reports the problem just now

[jaunty sphinx]

I wanna go for the helbore again, which mark is best do ya think

[dapper coyote]

I heard the light one is the best one

But that's awhile already

[frigid shuttle]

hmm

[dapper coyote]

MkV i think is the light one

[hollow ibex]

V or IV

IV is heavy V is light

I think III hasn’t aged as well though it’s still not bad obviously

[dapper coyote]

The IV sucked at its bayonet

Ngl, bayonet can be a clutch at doorways or chockpoints

I did have way more kill with the bayonet than the gun itself when i used HB

[frigid shuttle]

Idk

seems accurate to me at 43m

what fov do you play at?

yeah, same for the other optic as well

actually idk, even if I put weapon fov to 120, it still hits where the dot is.

[red portal]

Ew the sway

[azure narwhal]

At that zoom it's normal

Whatever sway the weapon naturally has seems bigger

[distant estuary]

Is this for the new class?

[frigid shuttle]

I only put it to min fov for testing, I normally play with a bit higher weapon ads

but I can't replicate the issue, regardless of fov in options or mods

[tropic halo]

the hell am i looking at

this feeling like a shitpost the way the clip looks

[dapper coyote]

At Maxxed out fov, which i forgot

[dapper coyote]

Combat shotguns Zeroing test

[frigid shuttle]

85 vfov?

[dapper coyote]

I forgot its uhh

Fuck

At 115? I think? I need to check it out later on and to see if there's an updated version of the weapon customisation

[frigid shuttle]

85vfov is 117 hfov at 16:9 ye

[frigid shuttle]

latest is 4th of november, but they seem fine to me, just like the mid october one I had #1168063453416669284 message

hmmmmmmmmm

[distant mural]

Lord jesus the colors

This burns my eyes

[frigid shuttle]

Sounds rough.

Turn down the brightness of your monitor perhaps, if those colours are causing a burning sensation in your eyes.

[hallow drift]

As a longtime Arma player, this weakness sickens me

If my character isn't doing the chacha slide when I ADS after a brisk walk down the block, game is literally unplayable

[vestal olive]

Its not actually happening in arma

it just looks that way because your game is running at 7 FPS on your new 3000 USD machine

[tropic halo]

this week auric maelstroms have been nothing more than just a shitshow with all randoms been playing

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G3UKfRyW8AgaE0p.gif

[dapper coyote]

I mean I did see Havoc 33 with a level 21

[thorn lark]

A havoc lvl21?

[dapper coyote]

"Bless the innocent before taken his time" - loose cannon

[tropic halo]

Character level 21 i think

[thorn lark]

Holy

[dapper coyote]

Zealot lvl 21

[toxic reef]

you can't do havoc under 30

[tropic halo]

It shared rank

Through account

[thorn lark]

Unless invited in a group?

[tropic halo]

Wait you played havoc or missions?

[toxic reef]

that's a really weird workaround then

[dapper coyote]

Mf bout to witness the tomfuckery maxximus carnival of specialist, Ogryns and bosses

[thorn lark]

Never tried it. Don't know if it works

[dapper coyote]

H a v o c 33

Not 10, or 20

Fucking 33

[thorn lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1076246644749766687/1333114351086731395/uncaption.gif

[dapper coyote]

7 less steps to the ceiling

[tropic halo]

This new darktide gen is cooked

[dapper coyote]

"Bless the innocent before taken his time" - loose cannon

[misty minnow]

It was the kool-aid

[tropic halo]

Very wise words for a funny man

[dapper coyote]

Male loose cannon is somewhat smart at navigating zealots and ogryns

And is clearly having coping issues

And is CERTAINLY an alcoholic

[turbid ibex]

Almost everyone does lol

[potent patio]

how are you supposed to use the plasma gun? im currently trying to mastery it, and i just Dont Get It. Is it just only for Ogryns? Is there some psyker style heat loop im missing?

(i am a psyker main)

[distant mural]

Yeah

Imo it succs

But its strong i guess and havoc viable or somth

I prefer bolters or laser weapons

[turbid ibex]

Its not for bosses

Its for sniping elites and specialists while also getting a bunch of fodder as collateral damage

[potent patio]

i meant more the shield boys and crushers

[turbid ibex]

Also dont even bother with the charged shot

Just spam left click

[silver patrol]

you shoot them and they die in one hit

there is not much to master

[potent patio]

they dont seem to be dying in one hit but that may be due to my gun being being imperfect

[silver patrol]

you must get the right talents and the right plasmagun build

[potent patio]

currently using what seems to be an average havoc40 build everyone is posting variants of

[turbid ibex]

Plun also wants a really specific stat distribution

[silver patrol]

it doesn't really want a specific stat distribution, there is barely any difference between 71% charge rate and 60%

[silver patrol]

what is it

[turbid ibex]

Its more so the thermal resistance

[silver patrol]

yeah i mean

[turbid ibex]

69% is just enough that you can squeeze an extra m1 shot before it becomes a problem

[silver patrol]

if you just dump charge rate, it's works anyway

that distribution above is optimal but there is not much difference compared to a 60% charge rate one

you shoot like 0.05 seconds faster

[potent patio]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f7e8c2a-c046-4694-8e52-51d39b373505/new-vet-meta-havoc-40

[sonic kayak]

You don't shoot them

That's melee or nades

[silver patrol]

yeah don't shoot bulwarks or crushers

waste of ammo

[sonic kayak]

You could shoot ragers and mauler bodies in a pinch

[silver patrol]

in auric, ragers die in one hit with a headshot

maulers should be twoshots irrc

you should prob just shoot them if they aren't in your face

they like to do choochoo trains too so

[sonic kayak]

Idk I don't play Auric these days, mostly Havoc

[turbid ibex]

"New vet meta"
Uses dord

[silver patrol]

what does that stand for

[potent patio]

dueling sword?

[turbid ibex]

D-ueling sw-ord

[silver patrol]

never saw it abbreviated like that, usually it's ds

otherwise, this is basically the build everyone uses no (talentwise)?

[sly orchid]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1124335205650538509/1283126260775784529/bonk_loop.gif

[turbid ibex]

No longshot, uses shredders instead of kraks, no pord, no bring it down

[silver patrol]

it does talk more about krak below

[turbid ibex]

Unyielding on plun???

Crit chance on dord????

[silver patrol]

oh i ignore the weapon stuff

[potent patio]

yea thats what i figured, and i ran a few games with it just now and it felt kinda trash

[silver patrol]

i wouldn't take thrust on it either

[turbid ibex]

Stamina regen on curios is also a weird pick

[silver patrol]

yeah why not toughness

[turbid ibex]

Or gunner resist

[distant mural]

I mean ds and plasma is definetly meta.

But not new

[silver patrol]

right it has no resist

[distant mural]

Like it allways was

[silver patrol]

i think the author's logic is that you are spamming VoC

[turbid ibex]

Which isnt possible anymore btw

[silver patrol]

but not on this economy

[distant mural]

“GAMING“

[turbid ibex]

Idk pord kinda insane

[distant mural]

True

[silver patrol]

bro you must be taking the piss with these abbreviations

[potent patio]

I have heard as much, but i am just now picking up vet and it doesnt feel meta? like i have a much more effective hellbore setup

[distant mural]

But ds was allways meta

[sly orchid]

also thrust on dueling sword instead of relentless strikes

[distant mural]

Listen

Duelling sword is ass

Its overrated

[sly orchid]

taxe vet is a better pick for melee

[turbid ibex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/888163424855535647/1192679966198988800/Animation_1704427443.gif

[potent patio]

more talking about plasma

[silver patrol]

i mean, the problem is the plasma gun for you right now no?

[distant mural]

Plasma is good i just dont like it

[turbid ibex]

I just think they sound funny

[potent patio]

yea dueling sword is fine, i honestly swapped it for the falchion cause i gotta mastery it too and its doing well enough

[distant mural]

Theres other weapons that are more fun and also very havoc viable

[distant mural]

The strongest vet melee is power sword tho

[potent patio]

Trust i know, i got a hellbore build which is hella nice

[distant mural]

Based

[potent patio]

(is this a bit of blunt player memes i am too periled to understand)

[distant mural]

No

[turbid ibex]

Helbore is also really good for more gun-centric builds

[distant mural]

It actually is

[turbid ibex]

No pord is just fucking insane

[potent patio]

Fair enough, i remember it was insane at launch, got nerfed and was pretty aight, did they buff it again?

[distant mural]

The reason people love the duelling sword so much is because its super duper safe

And kills crushers good

[potent patio]

Not as good has power hammer

[turbid ibex]

It was always extremely strong

[distant mural]

But psword can do that too AND shred hordes

[turbid ibex]

And with the vet rework gigabuffing melee it has only become even more insane

[potent patio]

whats the falchions meta status?

[turbid ibex]

Its alright

Nowhere near the meta

[potent patio]

good enough for me

[distant mural]

Screw ze meta play whats fun

[turbid ibex]

True

[potent patio]

true

[turbid ibex]

Not like the competition wasnt rigged though lmao

Pord is just that good

[dapper coyote]

And this is why i liked 🅱️ istols

John wick with deagle

A rather large and comically complicated deagle

[distant mural]

Bistols and bolters are my favs yeah

Nothing quite scratches that itch

[tame lodge]

Not meta

Crazy work Fatshark
Crazy work

[spark helm]

Very much so falls behind but can work just fine up to aurics. Works well in builds taking exestance and weapon specialist in my experience. Haven't had a chance yet to feel out its limits in havoc.

[rancid dragon]

My fellow veterans

I know what I must do…

But I don’t know if I have the strength to do it

[turbid ibex]

Wait who is that

[rancid dragon]

Malcom’s homes

Fallout new cages

Vages

[turbid ibex]

Is that the star bottlecap guy?

[rancid dragon]

Yes

Time to make a new veteran operator

[frigid shuttle]

donate to a charity instead

[rancid dragon]

Nah

[serene bough]

Whats this week's rotation for the shop

[crisp oak]

Im slightly sad I can no longer onetap crushers with the mk7 shovel

Wish they brought that back

[distant mural]

Please dew it

But dont carry any bottlecaps

[calm shard]

why can't you?

[distant mural]

Or ill tk you

[crisp oak]

Only does like ~75% with my best efforts

On auric crushers

[calm shard]

yeah I didn't even have to change anything from my gun vet build

does have to be a crit though but only barely

[ocean bramble]

wow that's without the 20% ogryn damage boost

whatttt

[calm shard]

yeah I honestly kind of expected it to need it

but decided to test it on gun vet first anyways

only using easily applicable damage boosts

actually I wonder if you can do it without marksman if you go melee vet with FT

[ocean bramble]

why would marksman make a difference? it gives ranged finesse damage no?

i unironically don't understand how you're doing that much damage lol im messing with it rn

[calm shard]

buh

okay but that was a crit

[calm shard]

marksman gives ranged STRENGTH

[ocean bramble]

is this with thrust or limbsplitter?

[calm shard]

which is calculated last in damage calculation

(so it gives a fucking enormous damage boost)

[thorn lark]

Ranged?

[calm shard]

or uh

not ranged strength

weakspot strength

my brain is very small

[thorn lark]

Ye

[calm shard]

oh yeah easy

[ocean bramble]

but it says ranged finesse strength, am i stupid? does it just lie and affect melee damage? (wouldn't be the first time tbf)

well i suppose i can find out real quick lmfao

[calm shard]

ohp wait I have a mod that changes descriptions lemme turn that off

[ocean bramble]

oh im fuckin braindead, sorry

i thought you were referring to marksman's focus

[calm shard]

so yeah 100% still can

and can easily infact

[thorn lark]

I should use marksman more in my exec builds

[calm shard]

it's not actually that useful

[thorn lark]

Overdmg?

[calm shard]

it helps with boss damage, and if you REALLY hate crushers while using the bolter/helbore

but otherwise oh no you one shot them even harder now

greaaaaaat

[thorn lark]

Hmmm even in havoc?

[calm shard]

You would need marksman for havoc crushers but maybe

[slow spade]

Sadly the weapons that could benefit like Recon have terrible finesse

[thorn lark]

That may be more useful on the pisto bolter then

[calm shard]

okay but it's not finesse it's strength

marksman gives strength

[tame lodge]

No such thing as overkill

[thorn lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1078922307394879508.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[dapper coyote]

Chat tac axe dump stat is?

[calm shard]

who's this "chat"

[tame lodge]

The tactical Axe itself

(it's probably mobility)

Damage, Penetration, Critical Bonus, Finesse

Yeah the dump is 100% mobility

[crisp oak]

Foly fuck I didnt think of exe stance

[slow spade]

Funny times with Fatshark

I'll give Recon Marksmen Focus a try

[calm shard]

it literally says it does that

this is "people can't fucking read"

not on fatshark

for once

[calm shard]

exe stance doesn't give melee damage

[crisp oak]

Oh

Is that uncanny thrust then?

[thorn lark]

mob

[queen fox]

Whats the optimal plasma gun stat spread?

I remember it was 72 and 68 in some stats, forgot which

[thorn lark]

#veteran-class message

[queen fox]

Thank you

[crisp oak]

Who is this path, I only know bath

[crisp oak]

Clearly an imposter

His real name is "Veterans guide pending"

[thorn lark]

Pending since last year

[slow spade]

The problem once again is as I mentioned "finesse"

Not "strength"

Recon is notorious for bad finesse

[thorn lark]

we were talking about marksman the talent and not the keystone

[slow spade]

I did say "Marksmen Focus" in a message to be sure

Such is life

[calm shard]

you did not say it initially

so I assumed you were talking about the talent Marksman

[slow spade]

Indeed that was my bad

[orchid hemlock]

Marksman Deez 😈

[orchid hemlock]

@tall torrent when he looks at the source code 😔

[slow spade]

I should dive into the code one day

Seems interesting some of the stuff people dig up

Didn't know sliding affected damage taken for the longest time

[thorn lark]

and differently on each class

tbh, you should just start by reading kuli's guide

[hollow ibex]

man

agri/vraks IAG on a ranged focused build

is so insane

[calm shard]

why yes the gun that fires at the speed of light should be able to one shot every enemy in the game on headshot

why wouldn't it?

[hollow ibex]

well it's not quite that good

but they both feel way better than vigilants to use ngl

i know vigilants theoretically have better ttks

but in an actual match you'll still be hitting the body at times

[umbral scaffold]

guys, is there some kind of rotation in the missions or whats up wit hit?

[hollow ibex]

and souped up IAGs fucking shred so quickly already

[hollow ibex]

yeah they rotate

[calm shard]

yeah you right

has to 2 shot reapers, 3 shot bulwrks, and like

8 shot crushers

[hollow ibex]

yeah

so trash

[calm shard]

yeah

[umbral scaffold]

in what way

[calm shard]

the ammo economy simply is not there

[umbral scaffold]

not like the map types

but enemy types

cuz i kinda doubt theyre random

[hollow ibex]

oh those are not

it's tied to maps

[umbral scaffold]

are they?

[safe jacinth]

trying to build a plasma gun like that is super annoying, i’d rather just build it like a psyker staff tbh

(i never get those stats)

[turbid ibex]

wdym like a psyker staff

[umbral scaffold]

not even that many of them.🤣

[mortal aspen]

walking green circles for the DB

[umbral scaffold]

missions is done tho so all is well

[slow spade]

I love melk bucks :D

[hollow ibex]

the only reason i care is because i'll prob have to dump 50k milkbucks into the new class for curios

[livid hill]

https://youtube.com/shorts/z9zrng-eh_E?si=KAfD_S-p3cAKz2TY

fem loosie is such a bitch i love her sm

[void dragon]

Be like me, dump all your milk money because the jerk keeps scamming me and still have classes without maxed curios

[slow spade]

Yeah melk curios are the only useful thing so far

[lapis osprey]

Any suggestions on what I can improve here for a H40 recon exec stance build(idk why guess i just wanna mag dump)

tac axe helps with mobility and kraks help with armor

[hollow ibex]

Don’t take MMF

Take FT

You’re also not going to have shit for toughness. Good luck

[lapis osprey]

so u are saying there is a way

[orchid hemlock]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c9abbca-ad8e-424c-8780-11409eba0097/funny-laser-pointer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

Not taking reciprocity is very sus even if you are taking MF

MF is by far the worst keystone on recon

[vapid thunder]

should i name my veteran puppygirlwithagun

[hollow ibex]

Sounds… heretical

https://tenor.com/view/hand-on-shoulder-akakichi-no-eleven-everything-will-be-ok-my-brother-in-christ-we're-gonna-beat-you-gif-16692013677699419935

[viscid sparrow]

was just in a match with yet another example of "vet gaming" (just shooting everything in melee range...)

[hollow ibex]

Was he using a recon lasgun mk XII?

[distant mural]

https://tenor.com/view/you-know-it-yup-yas-gif-20862141

[viscid sparrow]

no. idk what non-Vigilant autogun he was using, but I didn't see him ads, so could've been a brauto... (although, I couldn't tell if he ever even braced with it)

[sharp epoch]

should be a viable playstyle tbh like psyker staffs

[viscid sparrow]

he was also mag dumping into crushers at melee range and doing nothing to them as a result... (also, he took a LOT of poxbursters to the face)

[inner iris]

recon lasgun is so cringe imo, yeah ik its meta

having a rapid fire lasgun feels like it invalides the autoguns

[calm shard]

do you know how much damage the autoguns do

just like

ballpark estimate of their dps

[mortal aspen]

iag shreds crushers

[calm shard]

and everything else yes

[mortal aspen]

compared to recon, which tickles them even with onslaught

[hollow ibex]

Well recon las does like a third of the dps lol

[mortal aspen]

but recon is infinite ammo, so there's that

[hollow ibex]

Yeah doesn’t even need onslaught

[viscid sparrow]

we ended up wiping because that vet got overwhelmed, one of our two psykers ran into melee and got surrounded constantly, and the only one besides me who showed any amount of carefulness was the SG Smiteker (who downed to a poxburster).

I got downed as the last one standing while trying to rush to the next respawn area. as a taunt ogryn...

[tall torrent]

Name ur veteran as some sort of disease

[calm shard]

I think a third is underestimating it tbh xd

[tall torrent]

So the killfeed looks like the nurgle-worshipping enemies are dying to diseases

[mortal aspen]

leukemiawithagun

[hollow ibex]

Prob. It’ll just depend on the target tbh

[tall torrent]

I named my veteran tetanus

Prob gonna change my zealot’s name to disbelief

lol

[viscid sparrow]

I mine has always been named ItchyTriggerfinger.

[calm shard]

mine is John Warhammer :)

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[hollow ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1432758812129099786/5FB4E81.MP4?ex=690e15a0&is=690cc420&hm=352b361e0deebb20cab2e464d2cd77c9f2f2945494561b7121b045171851f496&

Let’s see a recon lasgun do that

[vapid thunder]

mines currently jinx

[tame lodge]

Tbf
They said Autoguns

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[hollow ibex]

It’s only what. 9 guns?

[tame lodge]

Yeah
So compared to brautos, yeah sure why not
Compared to Vigis or Iags, gets tricky

Wish brautos were better

[charred elm]

what do you guys take for your gun

i strongly dislike the plasma gun but idk what else is decent

[tame lodge]

In no order

Shotguns
Bolter
Helbore
Plasma
Zarona Revolver
Infantry Autoguns
Laspistol
Infantry Lasgun

[hollow ibex]

Why is Ilas on that list

[tame lodge]

Because it's Ilas

[hollow ibex]

Laspis but worse

[tame lodge]

Yeah

[heavy rover]

Helbore

[tame lodge]

Tbf
They asked what I take for my guns

I'm a lasgunner at heart

But like

Not a recon user

Recons are decent

[narrow frost]

Shredder auto

[primal zealot]

^ but on gun psyker

https://tenor.com/view/dog-feral-zoomies-zoomie-sped-up-gif-26353164

[short agate]

Will we ever get a melta?

[tame lodge]

2029

[tame lodge]

I'm also a sucker for the good Headhunter blessing

[short agate]

I love the lasgun. Not saying I win much but its a fun way to die for the emperor.

[serene bough]

Its honestly not that terrible of a gun its just not very viable with the meta shift recently

It needs buffs to damage and recoil reduction (and maybe larger hitbox)

[tame lodge]

Just on a weird spot

(again)

²

[serene bough]

Its also oddly nerfed by things that caused mass suppression like the flame staff since everyone's tucking their heads all damn game lol

[short agate]

Only runts need cover! (me hiding)

[umbral scaffold]

will it get also new weapons? it would be appalling if it didnt tho

[silver patrol]

obviously

[frigid shuttle]

recon las goes brrrrt and deletes specials

[slow spade]

I use plasma because I can take grenade nodes and still have a solid gun

[hollow ibex]

Yeah arbi also got exclusive new weapons

[umbral scaffold]

about time

[sharp epoch]

gonna be broken on release

[umbral scaffold]

when ogryn tho?

[slow spade]

Then they'll release an update that bricks one of its best builds for months UwU

[umbral scaffold]

yeah it be like that

[silver patrol]

skirmisher is probably going to eat dirt imo

[void dragon]

Skirmisher Nerf will be so it only buff melee so all veteran's cry of fear is heard in the steam reviews

[sharp epoch]

i wouldnt even mind i hate having to slide randomly just to keep the stacks

i dont think its unbalanced either

[faint beacon]

I’ll be surprised if they nerf it tbh seeing it made of lot of the lukewarm weapons pretty solid but obviously the overachievers are over achieving

I’m more so in the boat of talents should be swapped into different spots

[fervent citrus]

outta my own curiosity: has everyone's perk trees reset with bound by duty came out

[faint beacon]

Yeah

[sharp epoch]

i think everyone but ogryn

[faint beacon]

Actually yeah

I was about to say Arb

But arb was hit also

Literally only Ogryn survived

[distant plaza]

rip bully club bleed light spam

[fervent citrus]

the fuck man?

[silver patrol]

what do you mean the fuck

[tame lodge]

They reset every time they move stuff around

[silver patrol]

shouldn't have been resetted for arbites

but everyone else had to be resetted

[tame lodge]

Yeah the Arby's part is weird

[fervent citrus]

oh right they changed the talent trees for every class but arbites

[silver patrol]

yeah i think they just did it accidentally or something

[fervent citrus]

WAIT THEN WHY WAS ARBITE'S reset

[silver patrol]

and ogryn

[fair shale]

I imagine it was easier to tick a reset all button than reset all but arb

[silver patrol]

but ogryn wasn't resetted

[fair shale]

Oh?

[tame lodge]

Because Fatshark

[fervent citrus]

well it's gonna take me a bit out of time to rebuild my shit again but oh well

[tame lodge]

Kek

[fair shale]

/shrug fatshark

[fervent citrus]

hopefully my laspistol build can be salvaged

[silver patrol]

arbites did get some nerfs, maybe they were planning on moving some talents but didn't ?

but anyway, fatshark

[sharp epoch]

because arby had it coming