veteran-class

[serene bough]

I think vet is most popular class so im not that suprised

[tribal dawn]

Tbh while all the classes are super fun, I find the most versatility in Veteran.

[sharp epoch]

And it doesnt really cleave through armor as well

[meager echo]

probably due to the class popularity, aint no way vet beat psyker numbers.

[mortal aspen]

#NERFVET

[tribal dawn]

No.

[hybrid plover]

Only thing it doesn't is carapace

With manstopper

[tribal dawn]

Remember when the revamped skill tree was first released and everyone was whining about Psyker darts lmfao

[sharp epoch]

vets been like nerfed every patch 😂

[mortal aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[fair shale]

This is the work of all those recon vets mag dumping everything

[sharp epoch]

bulwark shields, flak ragers, and crushers

[tame lodge]

Wdym
It's right there

Vet beat psyker

It's right there

[tribal dawn]

Me. I'm the Recon Vet mag dumping everything.

[tame lodge]

Also Evis3 being the deadliest melee

[tribal dawn]

With my flashlight.

[tame lodge]

That shit used to be capped

How tf it is the deadliest

[hybrid plover]

Well duh.

[meager echo]

We need more reason to nerf psyker tho

[sudden cedar]

Iam surprised the deadliest melee weapon is not the Mk4 Duelling Sword

[hybrid plover]

That's why you bring the options to deal with those

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/itsrighthere-its-right-here-showit-gif-26494526

[sharp epoch]

purg hits all them so its just not as good for mixed horde clear, yeah it kills poxies well

[tame lodge]

It's probably because DS just doesn't clear hordes that well

[hybrid plover]

Mk4 dueling sword is overrated 🗣️

[hybrid plover]

True but you're also comparing this to a weapon that honestly shouldn't even exist in its current state because of how busted it is.

That's really not saying much.

[tribal dawn]

mfw I go to shove a poxburster and the plas rifle vet shoots it.

[hybrid plover]

The fact that double barrel has an edge in anything regarding its horde clear over the staff at all is crazy to begin with.

[sharp epoch]

It's been like that since the beginning of the game I don't think it's gonna change, and yeah we were explicitly comparing both

[sharp epoch]

It's easy to clear poxwalkers, kickback, executioner shotgun, ripper all do it with ease as well

[carmine cradle]

yeahhhh plasma duelling shout weapon spec shredder vet is still very strong and very fun

[hybrid plover]

You're ignoring like, every elite that isn't a bulwark, crusher or scab rager here

Or even the melee units

[tribal dawn]

I pray they never change it. Makes havoc that much more bearable .

[hybrid plover]

Its stronger now technically in pure dps. Just that shout itself isn't as good.

Which.

Good.

That is not a bad thing at all.

[tribal dawn]

Yeah. I genuinely mean it when I say I don't want things to be that easy.

Day 1 psyker darts, I'm looking at you.

[carmine cradle]

...shout is still busted

[tribal dawn]

Trying to play veteran and there's just 500 darts flying everywhere on Auric.

[hybrid plover]

Yes. But it's not as spammable anymore.

Which is good.

[sharp epoch]

I think exe is the better choice now tbh I was on the fence after the first nerf to shout but now its 5 seconds less so exe's a lot better

[hybrid plover]

Now for infiltrate to get a glow up because it needs it desperately.

[tribal dawn]

I love exe but I can't trust half the randoms I play with in damnation/auric.

[carmine cradle]

gold toughness will probably have downtime with just one shout vet and no psyker

[carmine cradle]

i STILL think shout is the best choice

unless ur doing something specific

[unreal nova]

Psyker aura is selfish now.

You need 3 vets for perma shout.

[tribal dawn]

Shout provides the best safety net in the game. Especially if you have one dedicated to the team and one dedicated for instant revives but that's kinda eh anyways.

[carmine cradle]

....i thought it still affected teammates

[sharp epoch]

It's the same buff as chorus no?

[unreal nova]

Psykinetic aura is selfish.

10% team aura still works.

But isn't enough.

[tribal dawn]

Yeah but tiny shout range.

[spark helm]

Not on a pulse channel either.

Instant feedback

[tribal dawn]

Plus shout gives a big shield while chorus has to build up

yea

only thing chorus has over shout is corruption cleansing

[unreal nova]

Shout stacks as well...

[unreal nova]

No?

[buoyant aurora]

Huh?

[sharp epoch]

5 or 6 seconds of perma staggering enemies and bosses is pretty huge

[tribal dawn]

Does it not? Could have sworn it does that.

[unreal nova]

Have you been mortising?

[tribal dawn]

I must be dumb then.

[sharp epoch]

And no it doesnt cleanse corruption thats beacon of hope zealots passive

[tribal dawn]

I might have been standing in a med field

[unreal nova]

Cos the only time chorus removes it is mortis.

[spark helm]

Chorus is definitely fine as well, but being able to just tell shit to stop in the moment is typically more attractive

[tribal dawn]

ohhh right.

I don't really run chorus on my zealot xd

I unga bunga that shit.

[unreal nova]

Thank your vet then. Field Improv.

[tame lodge]

No one runs chorus 🗣️

[spark helm]

If you got enough sense you can get ignorant with chorus too

[buoyant aurora]

Helpful at pushing monsters off the ledges too

[spark helm]

I wish it cleansed hazards

[sharp epoch]

It's maybe like .5 seconds from the first pulse not that different from instant

[fair shale]

Did they ever change the wording on demo team to make it more obvious its only for you?

[tribal dawn]

Well I knew that part, but I thought the chorus also cleansed corruption. That was my misunderstanding lol.

[spark helm]

Yeah that's why i said it's barely a big deal

[sharp epoch]

I think its pretty clear

[spark helm]

One is instant, one is delayed but guarantees sustain control unless it just happens to be moving around before the next pulse ig

[fair shale]

I dont remember it saying "you have" but yeah ig

[spark helm]

Like charging mutants or something that happen to beat the pulse.

[fair shale]

For a really long time I thought it was team support too

[unreal nova]

That's beacon of purity.

[sharp epoch]

I mean it used to but nerfed when talent tree came out

[fair shale]

Nah it defo did not hand out nades to everyone iirc

[sharp epoch]

i played on release it did

[spark helm]

Been too long. Idr anymore

[tribal dawn]

Is it obvious I don't play zealot that much besides charge lmfao

[fair shale]

I also played on release fwiw

I have achievements from inside the beta

[spark helm]

Might be recorded in patch note archives

[unreal nova]

But Zealous is funni on even a charge build.

[tribal dawn]

Oh trust me, I know. Heavy eviscerator my beloved.

[fair shale]

Chat i need a compelling reason to not just play psyker again

[tribal dawn]

Because 4 other classes exist?

[tame lodge]

It's psyker, you stay away from it lore wise

[buoyant aurora]

Psyker doesnt have Kraks

[fair shale]

Lmfao I guess

[static radish]

nah man its not a skill diff

[fair shale]

Imma be real I don't even like kraks, I just feel obligated to use them cause of rot armor

[unreal nova]

You are the krak.

[static radish]

i just beat a damnantion mission with ogryn and it was so fucken easy

[fair shale]

Og is Og

[buoyant aurora]

I am on Krak

[static radish]

yeah

so

unless its a huge problem with my vet

[buoyant aurora]

Watch me attach to you and explode ez

[static radish]

i dont think its that bad

rather im that bad

[hybrid plover]

Post the build ☕

[static radish]

ok

[buoyant aurora]

Shredders are more fun tbh but yeaaah that armor xD

[fair shale]

I like smokes tbh

Smoked+Exe is my preferred way to play Vet

[buoyant aurora]

I played with smokes for like 50% of my playtime as Vet, kinda got bored of them but they were pretty darn neat yeah ;D

Dam bro you speaking my lang

[sharp epoch]

do you remember old demo team gave nades to team?

[static radish]

idk how to do it otherwise

[hybrid plover]

Not the ogryn build silly

[static radish]

oh sorry

[fair shale]

Information/denial of information is one of my schticks tbh, knowing is half the battle and all that

[static radish]

i understood wrong

[narrow widget]

drop the vet build

[hybrid plover]

You are in the channel of veteran wisdom

[buoyant aurora]

Tell that to some Havoc players who want you to run voice of command at all times heh

[tepid otter]

Heard a funny interaction between 2 psykers after a vet made fun of one of them lmao

[hybrid plover]

Those players are lame.

They do not see the light

[buoyant aurora]

Ofc they don't since they are complaining dead

[fair shale]

I unironically think Shared Exe+Smokes is pretty good in havocs

[narrow widget]

ok lowk the only times I gatekeep my party are when I see fire team aura lmfao

[hybrid plover]

Oh.

Oh no.

OH NO.

[static radish]

is it that bad?

[hybrid plover]

You have the revive shout.

[static radish]

oh sorry

[narrow widget]

lol res shout

[buoyant aurora]

And youre damn right, and it's fun to play too!
Which is the most important factor

[static radish]

i selected the wrong one by accident

:c

[tepid otter]

The heresy

[static radish]

i sweard i dont use revive

[tame lodge]

Probably way back when but I'm not sure

[hybrid plover]

Oh okay so you so use gold

[static radish]

YES

i dont use the red one

[hybrid plover]

Okay.

[static radish]

or rev

or whatever

[hybrid plover]

I do see some glaring issues.

You're going down right bottom tree but you have only one of the sauced up nodes.

And that actually matters a lot.

[static radish]

honestly i go that keystone because the others dont seem appropriate

i do not like WP

[hybrid plover]

Nah the keystone choice is fine.

[sharp epoch]

Yeah it used to actually give grenades to the team thats why it was called demoliton team 😂 #veteran-class message

[static radish]

as good as it may be

i dont like it

[hybrid plover]

It's what above it that's really off.

And it might be why you don't feel WS pulling that much weight actually.

What weapons are you using this with?

[gray steppe]

It's funny to be the one making fun of the psyker and not the psyker being made fun of.

[narrow widget]

skipping skirmisher and reciprocity for cqk is a choice for sure

[tepid otter]

I just had this dialogue in my last match lmao

[fair shale]

I dont even hear the voicelines much anymore cause of how hectic havoc is, they get cut off all the time

[tepid otter]

Pretty funny

[hybrid plover]

You also don't really need that 5% movement speed node

[static radish]

oh no its just that i forgot to chage my weapon to proc it :D

[hybrid plover]

O

[buoyant aurora]

I'm sure even in all that mayhem you'd hear Vacuum Capsule

[static radish]

i wish i could use mmf

i like that one much better

[hybrid plover]

Veteran second rework when

[hollow ibex]

fr fr

[hybrid plover]

Or third actually

[static radish]

please

on the next vet reowrk

[tepid otter]

Thought vet was finally at a decent spot

[static radish]

LET ME HAVE INFILTRATE AS MUCH AS FUCKING POSSIBLE

[hybrid plover]

In power level, yes.

[static radish]

solid snake style

[gray steppe]

Well just don't havoc.

[hybrid plover]

In tree build variety?

Not really.

[fair shale]

Its the only gamemode I feel engaged on atp

[tepid otter]

Fair

[fair shale]

Unless i queue into a mael with people who absolutely should not be there

[hollow ibex]

it's really only second

[fair shale]

Those are fun too

[south copper]

Man another thing that makes me like veteran more than the other classes is that even when I’m not playing him it always feels like I’m the only person who ever shoots at range units. Veteran is the best at that. Randoms just hate using their guns or something

I honestly prefer guns to melee

[tepid otter]

Can't escape using melee in certain situations tho

[buoyant aurora]

2 sides of the coin
You either get people who are constantly out of ammo
Or those who don't shoot at all

[fair shale]

Ammo is scarce and most people prefer to save it

[orchid hemlock]

Dam the bottom right of that tree is unironically triggering me 💀

[hybrid plover]

But ye what weapons do you use that with?

I can try to refine that a little bit for you.

[static radish]

double barrel and shovel

[south copper]

I get people who don’t shoot at all 75% of the time

[hybrid plover]

Don't be mean.

[tepid otter]

is that the move speed one

[static radish]

yes

[tepid otter]

Prolly remove it for field improv but tahts just me

[orchid hemlock]

I mean I can't lie about how I'm feeling 😞

[static radish]

oh no yeah i started liking that one

[sullen scarab]

Anyone have problems with the keepswinging mod? I'm trying to save my joints but it doesn't seem to work when I hold down M1, I have to bind a key for it to keep swinging lol.

[south copper]

Like for the love of the emperor would it kill you to stop meleeing the little guys for 2 seconds to kill the gunner pelting us from across the map

The little guys aren’t the problem

[tepid otter]

nades are like your second best thing as a vet imo so i take it 100% of the time

[buoyant aurora]

I'd rather die than do that!
10sec later wipe

[static radish]

gotcha

[hybrid plover]

Well that's why that build feels off for you.

Ya got the wrong ws subnode and your damage is off.

[south copper]

That’s exactly how it goes lol

[sullen scarab]

Wondering if MultiBind mod messes with it

[orchid hemlock]

Why do you have 2 wave clear weapons?

[static radish]

uhhh yes

[buoyant aurora]

It's not as bad currently as it was with the old Havoc where 90% of enemies were ranged ones

[hybrid plover]

Shovel db goes hard

[faint beacon]

Reminder that H40 shooters are still a bigger threat than gunners

[tepid otter]

real

[buoyant aurora]

Have you seen the ones that use blue stimm? Ridiculous

[static radish]

@hybrid plover is mmf any good?

[tepid otter]

and theres a rapid fire modifier on lmao

[south copper]

Shit man I’m only even playing on auric lol. Dudes will get melted by a gunner from across the map while trying to melee 2 little guys then leave immediately

[faint beacon]

Blue stim?

Try blue stim rager or bulwark

Lmao

[buoyant aurora]

Yeah on the stimm modifier

[faint beacon]

Actual mini bosses

[buoyant aurora]

Oh I use Kraks, they arent a threat xD

[faint beacon]

36k effective HP on a Blue Bulwark

[tepid otter]

depends on the weapon imo

[buoyant aurora]

Still easier to dodge bulwark than minigun random ass ranged dude IMO

[faint beacon]

Yellow stim shooters are gunners on crack

[static radish]

i just actually want a keystone ill use

[faint beacon]

They do a 42 round salvo

[south copper]

I doubt my teammates would shoot those either lol

[tepid otter]

I've been enjoying FT a lot more recently, do have to ping a lot more but it helps the entire team out

[faint beacon]

Well I mean they kill you

[south copper]

Everyone just wants to play Dynasty Warriors

[buoyant aurora]

looks at our own weak stimms
Shiiiiit...

[static radish]

that also works

[sharp epoch]

I hate blue stimmed ragers more especially if I don't have hard cc like chorus or shout

[tepid otter]

MMF, I've only ever tried it on my Helbore build, it slaps, but diff kind of playstyle

[red robin]

blessings for chain axe?

[static radish]

i have FT on my krieg build

[red robin]

whats prio, headtaker or slaughterer if i wanna take thrust

[faint beacon]

Fun fact

Blue stim ragers in Tox gas have effective 100% DR

They’re immune to all sources of damage

You literally have to respect their existence if this happens

[sharp epoch]

Yeah every blue stimmed enemy does right

[static radish]

@tepid otter what does 🤌 mean?

[tepid otter]

, iz gud

[tame lodge]

[static radish]

oh oke

[tepid otter]

FT just keeps me more engaged imo

[faint beacon]

Ragers and Bulwarks are the biggest culprits iirc

[sharp epoch]

Yeah but I also notice when theres a blue stimmed bruiser taking a stab to the head multiple times from a PS

[cunning haven]

what does it mean when they are blue? how do i kill a blue?

[buoyant aurora]

Be like Ork, believe they don't have 100% DR, problem solved!

[sharp epoch]

Havoc modifier, you're probably not there yet but it gives them stagger resist and damage resist

[cunning haven]

no, ive fought them. i just thought there was a specific way i had to kill em or something

[hybrid plover]

Mmf good. Pathing bad.

[static radish]

damn it

well whatever

i want a mmf build

[faint beacon]

It modifies their armor values to all carapace also

So aka you can’t cleave through them

[sharp epoch]

No they're just souped up enemies, best way to deal with them is hard cc like shout/chorus and lot of damage

rending/brittleness also helps

[cunning haven]

like i dont even know the other stims. i just know the blues are straight up broken

like am i supposed to run away and wait for it to wear off?

[faint beacon]

It’s truly horrifying watching a Scab rager pack

Manifest into existence

And half of them roll Blue

[sharp epoch]

they dont wear off 😂

[faint beacon]

They do

In huge quotes

[sharp epoch]

wha

[faint beacon]

Takes ages

Just kill them

[cunning haven]

why isnt blue just attack speed like it is for us?

[faint beacon]

I don’t think you want to wait over 4 minutes

[cunning haven]

like i dont know what any of the colors do

[faint beacon]

For 1 enemy

[cunning haven]

other than blue being broken

[buoyant aurora]

This is where Vet shines, even weakest helbore is capable of 1 shotting Ragers as they manifest

[sharp epoch]

If you can't outrun them or have the tools to deal with them your basically cooked

[buoyant aurora]

Pop them before they pop stimms

[tame lodge]

Aka just kill them

[cunning haven]

i have power sword and i couldnt stagger a blue

[faint beacon]

Basically

[faint beacon]

Well I mean you can get free hits in

They stop in place doing the animation for 3 seconds

[buoyant aurora]

Or they slide towards you xD

Which looks hilarious

[faint beacon]

Well they can’t hit you during it thankfully

[buoyant aurora]

They don't have to when Im dying of laughter

Still, good to know

[hybrid plover]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0314b2b-e241-43b6-95c3-e1e195e74907/double-barrel-krieg?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

Oh yeah. Here you go

Refined that for you.

Honestly you don't need tinkerer if you're not doing havoc so you could trade that for Out for Blood

[static radish]

https://tenor.com/view/the-thing-marvel-rivals-here's-the-thing-marvel-rivals-gif-10489918399175350285

i can copy it

but im not gonna be good at it

[hybrid plover]

Just try it

[orchid hemlock]

What do you do to bosses?

[orchid hemlock]

Let me ask you, how do you use the DB?

[static radish]

shoot

[narrow widget]

yellow is good as well

pop it and spam ult

[static radish]

in all seriousness i mostly use it when there's a horde or some enemy i need to try to kill

[orchid hemlock]

Because in your build the biggest problem is you never take this:

[narrow widget]

wait ur not talking about stims

nvm

[orchid hemlock]

Read that carefully

[umbral scaffold]

Love always prepared!!

[orchid hemlock]

And now turn those gears in your head

What does that mean for DB?

Let's do some simple math

[static radish]

1 shot yeah i get it

[orchid hemlock]

The DB has 2 bullets correct

So what is 3.3% rounded up to the 2 bullets?

[static radish]

i get it jeesh

[static radish]

k

[sharp epoch]

3

[orchid hemlock]

Close here's your cookie 🍪

[undone jungle]

anyone got a zarona build? i read that with left keystone it can 1 tap bulwarks

also it just sounds fun :P

[narrow widget]

imo best zarona build goes weapon specialist

[tepid otter]

who makes these things lmao

[narrow widget]

for both revolver and shotgun

[tepid otter]

is Zarona the braced one when you right click

[narrow widget]

pretty sure that's agripinaa

zarona is the ADS one

[tepid otter]

okie, was just looking for another primary about a vet build someone shared like a week ago

[undone jungle]

no i meant zarona shotgun

which used to be called lawbringer

a far better name

[tepid otter]

why change it

[undone jungle]

no fucking clue

they also mixed up all the braced autogun names

[hollow ibex]

a lot of the name changes are just fucking stupid and pointless

[undone jungle]

and the headhunters

sorry vigilants

anyway yea anyone got a lawbringer build

[tall torrent]

exe stance + WS

Basically the default vet build lol

For auric u can drop tinkerer for krak and grab always prepared

[undone jungle]

yeah mainly thinking what blessings and perks for it

ofc no respite

full bore?

[tall torrent]

Works

Maniac + flak

Unyielding is also ok

For monster damage

Deathspitter also ok

U could technically run full bore + deathspitter if u don’t want to count on stagger

[undone jungle]

yaaa sounds fun

[tall torrent]

Cuz no respite is mainly a boss dps blessing for combat shotguns

[undone jungle]

i'll try flak + unyielding

tyy

[tall torrent]

Exe stance is huge in general

But especially huge for shotguns

Since it makes ur pellet spread tighter which makes it way more consistent for 1 taps

Also big Rdmg increase

[cobalt sparrow]

How is laspistol currently

[tall torrent]

It’s ok

[cobalt sparrow]

Standard vet build work with it? Or should you path for shock trooper?

[undone jungle]

should i give a shit abt deadshot and tunnel vision or nah

idk how crit dependant shotguns are

[tall torrent]

I don’t play MF with shotguns

I don’t think MF worth going for outside helbore

Opportunity cost is just too big

[undone jungle]

yeah but its funny

[tall torrent]

Exe stance already does everything MF needs to do but better

[tall torrent]

Deadshot tho, yes

Fatshark for some reason really likes to make shotguns finesse weapons

[undone jungle]

oh okay yum dot com

[cunning haven]

i tried exec recently in h40 but it felt like voc was better

probably just my playstyle

[undone jungle]

oh my fucking god

it 1 shots bulwarks behind shields

they werent lying thats so fucking funny

[static radish]

wtf is zarona

[hollow ibex]

shotgun or revolver

[undone jungle]

excellent combat shotty that used to be called lawbringer and a very subpar but fun revolver

wait no

agripinaa rev is the subpar one

i forgor

[static radish]

ohh combat shotty

thank ye

[hybrid plover]

I hit them.

Half joke aside, shovel isn't as abysmal at boss damage as it used to be, since you very often would pick serrated and with unyielding perk, the bleed itself does actually contribute quite a bit to your boss damage.

So you'd naturally throw a krak to stagger them and just start wailing.

[narrow widget]

subpar? it has all the damage in the world
it's one downside is how little ammo it has
perfect for everything below havoc and even in havoc it's still good if you spend ammo wisely

[hybrid plover]

It's not the best obviously, which is why I'd definitely run kraks with that setup.

You could run skullcrusher to make boss damage more consistent technically but I just prefer deci more.

[narrow frost]

vet moment

[toxic reef]

I did try that on a second shovel, but then I noticed that deci is also just so nice with heavy spam in to hordes

and it's not hard at all to keep stacks up compared to when you're just spamming lights

[sharp epoch]

squshed

[tame lodge]

Wouldn't happen if you were using a better mid tier weapon

[faint beacon]

Chat how do I do damage against a boss with a melee weapon that’s bad

I hit them in the head till it dies

[steel veldt]

amazing

[cobalt sparrow]

you run WS?

[violet yacht]

how do yall run ur bolt pistols rn?

[still flare]

Kraks + shout can make any single boss pretty trivial with the stagger, doesn't matter what your weapon is, imo. Assuming anyone else is sneezing on them it'll be pretty painless

[sharp epoch]

i think he was being sarcasmic

[faint beacon]

Oh I know how to kill bosses im just more so saying that in the usual question of "how do I kill bosses"

Dead serious if you're just patient you can kill all the bosses with any melee

[still flare]

ರ⁠╭⁠╮⁠ರ

Anyway ye DB + shovel is pretty lit

[calm shard]

I DO HOWEVER

[calm shard]

flex point goes wheevr

blessings for MMF shotgun would be Deathspitter/Full Bore+Manstopper

I would recommend Unyielding+Flak/Crit Chance/Maniacs for perks

Flak lets you one shot bodyshot Maulers with Zarona regular shell, and Agri slug shell

Agri slug shell will one shot bodyshot Havoc 40 maulers on a crit

Zarona does 2/3 of their health

I would also like to mention that the combat shotguns with manstopper are more or less the perfect Deadshot guns

Extremely high damage per crit, Manstopper gives those crits infinite cleave, and a slow fire rate that doesn't need you to stay ADS

[frank basin]

did boltgun ammo reserve got buffed?

[calm shard]

Event missions give double reserve ammo

[frank basin]

oh

[hybrid plover]

New event with either of the bolters is so cathartic

Fatshark needs to do more goofy stuff like this.

[opaque crane]

Any other guns good on havoc? Or is it still las pistol and plasma?

[heavy rover]

Helbore

[opaque crane]

Thanks

[heavy rover]

Especially now it works very well with the marksman focus keystone

[cobalt sparrow]

What kind of build would you run with las pistol? MMF or WS?

[calm shard]

MMF

laspistol is very reliant on crits/headshots anyways

[cobalt sparrow]

Cool, ty! Do you happen to have a talent build I could look at? Thinking for maybe running it with a shovel for clear

[calm shard]

I was running this for Helbore 4 in Havoc earlier

Should work about the same

field improv is your flex talent point there

[cobalt sparrow]

yeah think I’m still too new to vet to be making builds lmao mine was a bit undercooked

Tyvm

[calm shard]

If you want other talents Field Improv or 15 MMF stacks are the least important ones here

[sturdy jungle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0317b75-27bd-42f5-8170-caf88f5bdaf4/smosh-approved-meta-vet

I made the best meta build on veteran with some minor tweaks can y'all tell me how it looks😊 😊

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-woof-bark-ruh-roh-gif-4303248

[opaque crane]

Thanks everyone

[hybrid plover]

Literally anything that isn't infantry lasgun honestly

[sturdy jungle]

😝 😝

It's meta don't worry about it

[calm shard]

literally anything that isn't braced autogun tbqh

there are some that are like mid but usable there like infantry las

but vet is so goddamn strong with guns that they can brute force just about anything into working

[opaque crane]

Oooo I'm spoiled for choice

[calm shard]

Oh actually another thing worth noting

Revolver does NOT have enough ammo for Havoc

Combat Shotgun, and Plasma do more or less the same thing though

And they have ammo

[opaque crane]

Ahh understood!

[sturdy jungle]

Survivalist and the extra ammo balance it out, no?

[calm shard]

No

[sturdy jungle]

Plasma significantly more so from my experience

[calm shard]

https://imgur.com/a/SObUCHY

[sturdy jungle]

Back when I played havoc vet I ran revolver instead of plasma solely for the cowboy autism I have

[calm shard]

havoc 40 maulers

[sturdy jungle]

Plasma does this but better as far as I know

[calm shard]

obviously doesn't work into rotten armour because of the fucking absurd 70% ranged damage resistance

[calm shard]

plasma doesn't get past the second mauler, nor does it one shot any of them

[sturdy jungle]

Dosent plasma have nigh infinite cleave

[calm shard]

It has a lot of cleave

[sturdy jungle]

I can't test I'm on console I've just heard such

[calm shard]

Problem is Maulers have a lot of hitmass

Man stopper is not limited by such things because it Is infinite cleave

[steel veldt]

Curious could heavy laspistol work with Weapon Specialist

or is WS only good for weapons that oneshot

[sturdy jungle]

Idk who's running man stopper unless the council of combat shotgun works in secret

[calm shard]

why wouldn't you

infinite cleave on crits is huge for combat shotty

[hybrid plover]

Me

[sturdy jungle]

I'd imagine it's alright considering the free crit and the fire rate

Ok then I've just not known of the combat shotgun council

I've been told combat shotgun Is better than I think bare minimum 3 times now I should probably try it

[calm shard]

Okay I was slightly wrong about this it gets past the fourth mauler and doesn't one shot any of them

[sturdy jungle]

Man stopper scatter shot?

[calm shard]

Man Stopper+Full Bore/Deathspitter

Full Bore has no arbitrary range requirement but is a smaller numer and more annoying to activate

[sturdy jungle]

I don't see the value of death spitter in the slightest

[calm shard]

Deathspitter has arbitrary range requirement and can't reasonably be stacked into small enemy counts

But is big number and easier to maintain

[sturdy jungle]

I feel like scatter shot man stopper with weapon specialist and mag dumping would shred armour packs

[calm shard]

well you see the neat thing about combat shotguns is that at close range you can do this to enemies

which is instant max deathspitter for 32.5% strength

which is a huge damage increase

[austere mica]

Carapace stops infinite cleave

[sturdy jungle]

Oh it stacks? Alright

[calm shard]

yeah only stops on carapace

just aim at head/leg level into scab ragers

[sturdy jungle]

Ok shreds anything but carapace then

[calm shard]

and don't shoot crushers same as you do everything else

[sturdy jungle]

Only crushers are the issue yet you have a melee

[calm shard]

correct

[austere mica]

If you want a weapon spec shotgun then run Double Barrel

[calm shard]

Zarona/Accatran combat shotties are alright for weapon spec as well

If you don't like Double Barrel's lack of accuracy over range

[sturdy jungle]

Ik the tech yet I'm not a fan of double shotgun after using it a bit more

The value would be wiping out a line at a time of a horde with free crits from scatter shot with the chain starting from the WS crit

[calm shard]

https://imgur.com/a/yuGZP1O

I do quite like this clip

It's very good at getting across the totality of what the Zarona combat shotgun specifically excels at

Just sheer versatility

[hybrid plover]

You don't use scattershot with db

[sturdy jungle]

Isn't the horde clear tech of db (mainly without WS, I'm referring to the combat shotgun in that cus of its higher ammo account therefore more uses of cleave) to use the cleave too refresh the scattershot

I know that's how it was run on arbite

[calm shard]

no

[hybrid plover]

No because you will always guarantee crits as long as you get kills with your melee weapon out

[calm shard]

veteran does it by getting kills with weapon spec for the guaranteed crit

and replaces scattershot with flechette

[hybrid plover]

The real setup is Manstopper + Flechette

[sturdy jungle]

Ok so that was the arbite one

[sturdy jungle]

Fair enough

[hybrid plover]

Completely different deal on vet.

[sturdy jungle]

I'd still run it like this on combat shotgun tho because I'm doing it for the gimmick of an infinite cleave magdump rather than the actual viability of man stopper itself

[hybrid plover]

And probably the best deal because vet can get so much out of double barrel that it rivals inferno psyker in damage numbers

Crazy powerful setup

[mortal aspen]

it's too easy to just set up a guaranteed crit with WS

2-3 melee kills and it's guaranteed

[hybrid plover]

It is probably the most gung-ho you can get with vet too

Really fun.

[sturdy jungle]

Yeah yeah your build may be "good" And "great at stacking bleed" Yet is it a gimmick build that won't make it out of sedition? Didn't think so bub😎

[hybrid plover]

I've won havoc 40s with it lol

[sturdy jungle]

The joke is my build of not running it optimally is the gimmick build vro

[mortal aspen]

the bleed never scores that much damage overall for me

but it might not be registering correctly in the scoreboard, idk

[hybrid plover]

The bleed isn't really the main source of damage. It's there to be the finisher for the things the pellets don't kill.

[mortal aspen]

yeah, it does what it needs to do

still, for 1mil damage it's like 50k bleed

[atomic void]

what gun are u all using to do the funny infinite cleave gimmick in the event

[umbral scaffold]

Good for you! Honestly just run what you want and what’s fun. I find when I’m having fun, I make weapons and builds that “are shit” work just fine.

Who would have thought that having fun coincided with doing well?!

[orchid hemlock]

What gimmick?

[stuck gorge]

Event gives all guns infinite cleave

[orchid hemlock]

Oh easiest answer of my life then:

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c9abbca-ad8e-424c-8780-11409eba0097/funny-laser-pointer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[cobalt sparrow]

What if the infinite cleave was the friends we made along the way

[plain glade]

So I’m out of touch with the veteran class so any ideas for a solid build to run high level missions

[hybrid plover]

It's not even that it's just fun. It genuinely is a very powerful set up.

It just requires some finesse since it doesn't have the greatest range.

[tepid otter]

What build we talking about :3

[umbral scaffold]

Fair! I’m just saying I often see people get almost irritated/confrontational if you want to run non-meta weapons or in even ones in a bad spot….yet I see people do it and excel.

I run heavy sword on my zealot. Absolute shit vs carapace, but it slaughters everything else with ease. Plus, bring a bolter and problem solved. Certainly isn’t the best build, but because I have fun, I don’t care 🤷🏻‍♂️

[umbral scaffold]

By high level, I assume you mean auric and above?

If so, I run recon lasgun with power sword with a lot of success and fun along the way! I don’t have my build on hand as I am at work, but I’m sure someone here could help with that.

If you’re not too familiar with vet, I’d say run shout. Your group will appreciate you for it, and it is a good “oh shit” button to press if things go south quick

[plain glade]

Ok that’s a good start for me cause Iv been consumed by completing all the arbites penances and I’m almost done but need a break from the guy

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah, we all need a break sometimes from our operatives!

Yeah, recon las is a fun go. Your focus fire is incredibly accurate, and your left mouse shooting is great for groups of things like ragers, gunners etc.

Just bring kraks for carapace/crushers. Lasgun will take forever and waste a lot of ammo trying to headshot a crusher down

And your power sword will help with crushers as well! And does great vs maulers and scab ragers

[hollow ibex]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f1c57f4-d600-4673-9d86-d7895f39af23/fresh-corpsestarch

simple starter build

[plain glade]

Alright thank you I’ll give it a try

[hollow ibex]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e3a17a9-c4c4-4f9b-855b-c37250ad14f2/light-show

and if you want recon las

[hybrid plover]

Fuhnee cuz this exact thing happened on a h40 I did a while back.

Purge psyker was asking me to run plasma and I just ignored and ran db anyway

And he said this team's gonna sell

[umbral scaffold]

What a joke. I’ve never, ever told anyone to change what they are running, in any game, ever. It’s just a game…as much as winning is the goal, and feels good, sometimes my most fun and best moments of growth have come from failure.

Nothing feels as good as clutching with a sub-optimal build or weapon!

[static radish]

this

"devil's claw sword"

its fun

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[umbral scaffold]

Use your special to block with it.

See what fun really is, if you haven’t done that yet

[static radish]

oh no yeah

i spammed that shit so much

good swing here or there but

when shit got crowded? "BLOCK"

[tepid otter]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-the-agents-know-dont-gif-18536773

[umbral scaffold]

100! It makes ragers look like chumps. And it’s hilarious blocking a crusher overhead with it

[static radish]

what dont i know?

[static radish]

YOU CAN FUCKING DO THAT?

i saw it nulified ragers almsot

[umbral scaffold]

Yes sir! Unless it’s changed. But you can use the special/counter attack it

[static radish]

but still

[tepid otter]

I havent seen or tried it yet either but DS has a parry now too apparently

[static radish]

...

well i mean

if it is like devil's claw

i will then MAYBE give it a truy

[tepid otter]

Good luck , leave no heretics alive

[tame lodge]

Not like it

I mean

https://tenor.com/view/japan-real-real-japan-sugi-same-same-but-different-chikara-gif-4942153489374473890

Dclaw parry is a bit more

Nuanced

Yeah

But still

You can parry everything melee with both

[static radish]

still have a bit before i got the DSword so

[vestal olive]

The dueling sword is not like the devil claw

I've never seen hordes cry out for devil claw nerfs 🤔

[static radish]

the parry?

[mortal aspen]

#nerfdevilclaw

[static radish]

if you are talking about attacks, blessings etc? yeah
i am trying to figure out how the parry is for both

its funny as fuck just parrying everything

still gotta see the overhead slams

[umbral scaffold]

Personally, I find the devil claw halfway between combat knife and heavy sword.

You’re slower than a knife but lose armor piercing vs carapace, but do better vs gunners and ragers . You are faster than a heavy sword but don’t do as much damage.

The parry is amazing, but I find it can be kinda odd to use it effectively. Sometimes you use it when you think you’d logically be attacked by 20+ enemies around you, but they don’t. Then when the animation ends, they attack 😂

[vestal olive]

Nah im being fascecious. They are completely different though barring the parry

[static radish]

ahem, uncanny strike

[umbral scaffold]

It’s a great talent for sure!

[elder vessel]

Its been so long since I used ILas

a weapon for controller it is not

[static radish]

alright ngl

i just soloed sword twin

with the devil's claw

the gun one was dead

i just yelled at my psyker "PLEASE GET THE OGRYN I GOT THIS"

and proceeded to spam parry

if it works it works

ok so i also had a shitty idea

but an idea non the less

stance = mmf
shout = fc
sneaky = ws

i think you know where im going with this

[tepid otter]

Elaborate?

[static radish]

the keystone always down the line of the ability

[tepid otter]

Mhmm?

[static radish]

if i take executioner's stance, ill grab marksman focus and so on with the other 2

[umbral scaffold]

That’s awesome! I’m glad it worked. Sword twin is no joke either.

[static radish]

it was uprising...but i was level 6

[tepid otter]

I havent done a lot of infil vet myself

[static radish]

i thought you were gonna shit talk my idea

which in my defnece....its shitty but sounds fun

[tepid otter]

Nah, messing around with builds is what makes the game more fun imo

[static radish]

true

HOWEVER whenever i try a build i get flak for it

cuz i decide to ask for ideaas

[tepid otter]

Sounds about right

[static radish]

and people just say "try this build, its like yours 'but better'"

[tepid otter]

I mainly looked up builds in my case and just make modified ones out of those if I wanna try something different

Or grab one here if someone shared something interesting

[static radish]

despite not being chat related, i wanted to see one for zealot where you get always prepared but on backstab

[tepid otter]

Zeal has a node thats called Always Prepared?

[umbral scaffold]

I actually just tried out a brauto infil vet build last night. I ran taxe with it and kraks!

Not bad. Infiltrate is certainly not as good as shout, but it was fun to mess around and see how the build worked. Did pretty decent!

[hollow ibex]

Infil with braced sounds like pain

[umbral scaffold]

Used the brauto for rager/gunner and maulers, and reapers. Kraks worked for carapace and taxe handled hordes.

[static radish]

no no

[tepid otter]

I can't find a weap I enjoy using with Infil just yet

[static radish]

its vet's one

but for zealot

where he gets 5% ammo from reserves but from backstab kills

and stacks 5 times

lemme show ya

[umbral scaffold]

I found some success infiltrating into flanking positions/behind enemy lines and killing while my team kept pressure on. Worked well, but of course, that means your team doesn’t get your aura or benefit of another member to help if shit goes south

There were a few times I just used it to reposition and that was almost a better use of it

[static radish]

@tepid otter

[tepid otter]

I should prolly get my Zeal to lvl 30, I left it at lvl 28 and never touched it since Bound to Duty lmao

[static radish]

lmao

i still have 2 levels to finish my psyker

[tepid otter]

Maybe I should buy Arbites 🤔 then again the new class would prolly come out in the winter update

[static radish]

you dont have arby yet?

you most def should then

very very fun class

and due to dog mechanics

a lot of potential builds

[shy raft]

Better version of three class combined, it's really fun

[umbral scaffold]

arbites has it all. Armour,
Toughness, incredibly strong melee and ranged, doggo who kills anything you tag, regenerative grenades…yeah. It literally is 3 classes combined like plasma said

Only thing it doesn’t have is Rashuns.

[shy raft]

R A S H U N S S A H

[shy raft]

You can give up dog to be john wick too

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah, I usually run without the dog to make an already broken operative even more broken.

[shy raft]

also, raw %50 damage with forceful and arbites vigilant

every 10s

also %50 more stagger, stun, cleave

castigator to potential %200 damage and invinciblity for 10s

it really has it all

[hollow ibex]

Arbi is still pretty overtuned

But the range options are definitely limited

[shy raft]

his range options almost equal to plasma

three-shotting crusher with long nose, kill 10 rager per second with mk3

[umbral scaffold]

That mk3 with full bore is insane

[sharp epoch]

overrated

[willow prairie]

mk3 lol

[shy raft]

don't forget it also gets benefit of %70 cleave node too

[umbral scaffold]

That’s the non-wide spread shot isn’t it? I forget

[willow prairie]

the shit one

[shy raft]

ye

[sharp epoch]

mk7 is the sniper one

[shy raft]

until it isn't

[umbral scaffold]

THATS the one i love

The one that you can shoot once and kill like 4/5 gunners if they’re all in a row

It’s isnane

[sharp epoch]

agripina shotty outclasses the mk7 though

its like 3x the bullets same breakpoints

[static radish]

ok so

devil's claw?

very fun

however doesnt beat a good THONK with the shovel

[shy raft]

cuz shovel can deal with carapace and flak

so does exterminator shotguns

also can deal with maniacs

plus, shovel is cool af

[static radish]

i meant as in

[umbral scaffold]

Shovel life is best life.

[static radish]

the sound the shovel makes when you heavy attack

[umbral scaffold]

Tbh, I don’t think I’ve run shovel in ages. I really gotta make me a kriegsman

[static radish]

so so

for my marksman's focus vet ill use the infantry las
for my weapon's specialist, ill use the double barrel
now what should i use for a focus target one...

[narrow frost]

I have a shovel havoc video cooking

[static radish]

good

wait what mk?

[narrow frost]

mk1

[static radish]

based

[narrow frost]

did more then 2 zealots and a purg psyker

[blissful stump]

Hey what are some good blessings for the boltgun?

[hollow ibex]

Pinning fire puncture is the default on vet

[blissful stump]

huh, ig im underestimating puncture

[calm shard]

hey did you know veteran can THEORETICALLY 3 shot crushers with the regular ass combat shotgun?

On a practical build mind you

You'd just have to have perfect aim and get lucky with crits

[hollow ibex]

It’s pretty practical tbh

[calm shard]

or doink a havoc 40 crusher like this

[hollow ibex]

I wonder if you can do 2 shot with rending

Both rending nodes

[calm shard]

You can 2 shot a hav 40 crusher with agri slug

Just MMF rending

[static radish]

interesting

[calm shard]

crit headshots for 4944

[hollow ibex]

A meme setup tbh but that does sound funny

[static radish]

how is that gun with stance tho 🤔

[calm shard]

https://imgur.com/a/yuGZP1O pretty okay

[static radish]

im all for memes and not being useful

[calm shard]

https://imgur.com/a/M9IBRJV

https://fximgur.com/a/e0T1SI5

[static radish]

you have solved my dillema

thank you

[calm shard]

https://imgur.com/a/hjoeyAe

[static radish]

I was honestly like "hmmm what gun am I gonna use on my stance build that I haven't used on my other two

[calm shard]

I use Full Bore+Manstopper on mine

+unyielding for boss damage/bulwark one shot

[static radish]

Since the WE is double barrel and FT is infantry las

[calm shard]

+flak for mauler one shot

[thick needle]

That's the Zarona Mk VI right

[calm shard]

yes all of those clips are zarona except for the one where the slug one shots 3 maulers at once

[umbral scaffold]

Combat shotty is always good fun!

[rancid dragon]

Am I allowed to ask for help here?

[umbral scaffold]

👀

[rancid dragon]

Why you staring at me?

[static radish]

Of course not man the hell you think this is? You think we are helpful? Pffft (just kidding go ahead

[umbral scaffold]

Making you feel uncomfy. Lol. But yes of course you can

[rancid dragon]

Trying to get help with overwatch penance

[static radish]

Ohh easy

[rancid dragon]

Trying to do this with randoms has proven….difficult

[narrow frost]

do you want to cheese it?

[rancid dragon]

Yes

I’m tired

[narrow frost]

just need your fatshark code, social menu then press E

[static radish]

Throw yourself off a cliff at the beginning and have 3 teammates complete the mission

[rancid dragon]

I’ve been trying to get this done for 4 hours

[static radish]

Yeah this dude is fucking goated

[rancid dragon]

Oki

[static radish]

He'll help you in a jiffy

[rancid dragon]

How do I check my code

[static radish]

Social

Press E

[rancid dragon]

Console

[static radish]

Uhhh

[rancid dragon]

I’m a guardsmen you think I have the money for a PC?

[static radish]

Social, bottom right corner add player or something

[rancid dragon]

Ok I got

It’s

[static radish]

Should then display your fatshark code

Dm him it or something

[rancid dragon]

Oki

[static radish]

Or here whatever works I'm not yer comissar

[rancid dragon]

Oh

1173576440

Here u go

[static radish]

@narrow frost

Get to work gamer B)

[static radish]

What you'll do is

[rancid dragon]

Jump off the map

Accidentally

[static radish]

Let him run off, and you'll throw yourself off the map

[static radish]

On purpose actually

He needs to go, if the bots stay with you they'll always pull you up

Seeing that dude work btw, it's like watching John wick on a contract

[peak tusk]

Hey everyone, I apologize if this question has already been answered, but I'm still relatively new. My main class that I enjoy playing is Veteran and I've been at level 30 for some time. While I'll get to questions regarding endgame some other time, what I mainly need assistance for is a good Infantry Lasgun build that uses Executioner's stance. Or rather what perks and blessings it should have as well as which mark I should be using for it. Thank you!

[hollow ibex]

ilas does not do well in higher difficulties i'm afraid...

it's usable

but there are way bette roptions

[peak tusk]

I see. What about Helbore Lasgun?

I found a lot of success with the Boltgun

[hollow ibex]

both of those are excellent

[rancid dragon]

@narrow frost TY

Any way I can repay your help?

[peak tusk]

I've found some success with the MK V Lucius model, but should I go with the middle of the road MKIIIA model or stick with the high fire-rate of the MKV?

[hollow ibex]

they're all good

iv, iii, v

i personally like v

[narrow frost]

no need

[rancid dragon]

Oki

If your in any need of a photo of a dog I’ll give you one

[spare prism]

MK V is going to give you faster charge times and the IIIA model does have the draw back of not fully charged shots having a tiny bit of drop in damage but it’s all about your play style

IMO use ever which one you prefer

[umbral scaffold]

Have two cats

[tepid otter]

I only see one

[rancid dragon]

Cute

[rancid dragon]

Same

[hybrid plover]

The sloptide creators strike again

[umbral scaffold]

Vlad and Lucy thank you for your praise and worship.

[dapper coyote]

I have 2 cats as well

The blur on the other one is because She's belly flopping whilst being belly rubbed

[orchid hemlock]

Helbore, assuming you are cracked at the game, can be argued as the best range weapon on Vet atm

[rancid dragon]

Np

Cats, dogs, and owls are the best

[umbral scaffold]

Love it!

[tepid otter]

Da floof

[hallow drift]

Uncanny decimator for mk1 shovel?

[dense river]

Is the veteran ability where you shout and revive allies good?

Voice of comman, only in death does duty end

[spare prism]

It’s really good and helpful in horde clearing as well as revival

[hybrid plover]

it's a trap

[dense river]

How it does it work? Do I just get near the downed fellow and F key?

[narrow frost]

a good way to prevent downs is to keep constant gold toughness which revive shout lessens with its longer cooldown

if they are in range when you hold f, they will get revived after a second

revive shout is planning for failure but can be clutch in rare situations

a soild 3/10 talent imo

there are better options

but its funny to play as wee woo vet

[dense river]

I am playing with a psyker friend and he keeps blowing himself up so I will take it for now

[willow prairie]

if only revive shout isn't like adding cd to your ability

[dense river]

I love how you can change perks at will

[spare prism]

If the psyker keeps downing themselves they get yelled at (Voice of Command)

[south copper]

Just tell your friend to play a better class (veteran)

[willow prairie]

certified mercenary gaming

[narrow frost]

the reduced radius also makes it so you cant stagger trappers at their max range

lol

[dense river]

Oh btw, are there any perks that make the pulling out animation for the bolter quicker?

By the throne it takes 3 days just to take it out

And another 2 days to reload

[south copper]

Vet eventually gets a node that gives +50% swap speed

[south copper]

And a perk that reloads for you

[spare prism]

I like when Toughness becomes gold just before the 7 different types of gunners turn me into a trypophobia image test

[uncut topaz]

guys do u have any good builds for havoc 40?

im using the recon lasgun

but i feel its not doing so great

[south copper]

I was about to say one but it’s plasma based

[uncut topaz]

maybe I am the problem tho xd

[south copper]

I don’t like lasguns

[uncut topaz]

what do u use

[south copper]

Shovel+plasma with weapon specialist

[spare prism]

I love lasguns

I don’t like the recon one but the others are cool

[south copper]

Out of the lasguns recon is probably the best

Followed by pistol then infantry

Oh hellbore is a thing that exists

I always forget hellbore exists cuz it’s literally just worse plasma

[spare prism]

I play thematically, I have one “good” build I make guardsmen because I like the imperial guard

[uncut topaz]

we dont talk about helbore

xd

do u guys know anything about the new class?

is anything out yet

[south copper]

No

[spare prism]

It exists and no

[south copper]

If it’s 12 dollars I won’t be getting it for quite a while anyway lol

[spare prism]

It’s actually just a PNG of Markus that moves like a MK1 character

[uncut topaz]

u guys from the usa right? xd

[uncut topaz]

40 pieces of money for me

[unreal bone]

Power falchion dump stat?

[hollow ibex]

mob

[hybrid plover]

that just aint true

[dense river]

So the revive ability, does it also revive people caught by trapper net or do I need to untangle them? And what about when they are tied up at the respawn totem area thing.

[narrow frost]

it does not do rescues

ie

rescue station, ledge, or not

[dense river]

Gotcha

Probably will switch it out then once my friend learns to not combust every 5 minutes

[unreal bone]

Man idk if it's just me but

I hate the deadshot perk

[tepid otter]

Do be kinda weird lmao

[unreal bone]

It always gets me fucking killed

[south copper]

Pretty much every gun in the game is worse plasma

[tepid otter]

Despite how good it is, I actually dont use the plasma so much as a Vet

Bolbgun more fun atm, but trying out the Revolver for a build I got going on

[south copper]

Boltguns are the only non-plasma guns I like

Everything else has too many weaknesses

[tepid otter]

Wonder if FS will consider adding a Plasma Pistol next, just for shits and giggles

[south copper]

The plasma gun we have is basically a plasma pistol already. They only really get bigger

[tepid otter]

Want one that shoots like the Heretic Plasma Gunners

[hybrid plover]

plasma doesn't have the kind of one shots that helbore does

[tepid otter]

These traitor scoom

[hybrid plover]

at least the harder hitting marks

[tepid otter]

Really should add that mod where it auto charges the Helbore everytime you ADS

[south copper]

In the time it takes to fully charge up a single hellbore shot you can shoot plasma multiple times for even more damage

[tepid otter]

Ehhh, charging doesnt take that long on a Helbore I dont think

[hybrid plover]

it's not that long at all

like not even close

[south copper]

Weapons specialist plasma is essentially semi automatic

[hybrid plover]

it just feels that way because of the manual charge

and plasma is way less ammo efficient

[south copper]

I have never had ammo problems with plasma. If you take survivalist you will have 0 ammo problems with any weapon

[tepid otter]

Think it would boil down to preference, but I like enjoying the other weaps in the game

Despite being sub-optimal

[south copper]

Plasma is considered the best for a reason

[tepid otter]

Picking it in Havocs is prolly a must most of the time, but I'd rather not try hard any game I get into

[hybrid plover]

it's not

[tepid otter]

I wouldn't know, I'm still clearance lvl 23

[hybrid plover]

there's a decent variety of weapons for vet that are havoc viable up to 40

[tepid otter]

Being a solo and trying to find parties for higher level ones tho, they mostly dont accept you if you don't have 'meta' builds on as a vet in my experience

[hybrid plover]

helbore's one of em because of the consistent one shots actually

[tepid otter]

Lowkey terrible at Helbore atm

[dense river]

Between the 3 marks of dueling sword whats the difference?

[tepid otter]

Takes a lot more precision out of me, since you cant afford to miss sometimes

[tepid otter]

Movesets, afaik

[dense river]

IV and II seem to have identical stats, but the V has defenses stat instead of the cleave damage stat

[tepid otter]

Uhh, maybe someone here knows, I only know they can parry now after the bound to duty update, I havent given it a try since after that

[dense river]

Gotcha thanks anyways

Even as a complete rookie I am starting to tell why people love this sword so much

[tepid otter]

its goated

[unreal bone]

Also holy fuck

They increased the helbore ammo capacity by a fucking ton

1600 ammo

[warm schooner]

that's the special event

[tepid otter]

I thought that was for the event only

[unreal bone]

oh

okay

I was like DAMN

I haven't played since the update came out

[tepid otter]

perfect for when you wanna use your build that just goes brrt or pew

[tepid otter]

Welcome back

[unreal bone]

Yeah ngl

Think I might just get off again lol

Load into event mission on auric

Get an arbite teammate > fire barrel explodes next to medicae station

Arbite stands in fire and consumed all 3 medicae charges (I'm on 1 hp from a sniper)

Arbite is on full hp

[tepid otter]

Yeaaah, keep seeing complaints from other people who plays like apes ever since the new event went live as well

so its not just you lmao

[unreal bone]

That isn't playing like an ape

that is like literal trolling lol

[tepid otter]

sounds like an ape to me , but yeah unfortunate

I havent encountered any teammate like that yet thankfully

[unreal bone]

Maybe he didn't like my custom krieg outfit

It mean to be more armored looking and less coat

[pulsar patio]

guys whats the consensus on the palchion

is it poggers

[tepid otter]

Like a pocket Psword

People would prolly say its pretty mid, which it might be, but I enjoy it as a weapon

[pulsar patio]

will i be shunned for using it

[tepid otter]

Ehh, you'll get people who say its decent, and others who say theres better options

Its like a mixed bag atm, so use what you want imo

I mean I use it despite the duality lmao

[rancid dragon]

I wish to post photos of my drip

I can’t tho

How do I acquire the ability to

[tepid otter]

There's a driptide section

[tepid otter]

#darktide-driptide

[rancid dragon]

Still can’t post photos

[tepid otter]

oh

[rancid dragon]

That’s what I’m asking

How do I square such an ability

[tepid otter]

Maybe just keep hanging around the discord mingling with people til your name turns red

[dense river]

How does one even acquire a red name?

[rancid dragon]

Kill another person in the server

Cmere

[tepid otter]

Just happened for me after a while lmao

Run

[rancid dragon]

I just wanna talk

[dense river]

Well you are krieg. Expendable.

[rancid dragon]

That’s all..

[rancid dragon]

Oh?

And you are?

At least people know what I am

Dose anyone know you?

[dense river]

Yes