veteran-class

[mortal aspen]

or activating the buff for melee

[hearty panther]

every ten seconds, yeah

[faint beacon]

Tbh

[hearty panther]

which is just the general gamepaly pace

[faint beacon]

MMF can drop really easily

[hearty panther]

after damnation

[faint beacon]

if you forget you can't upkeep it without killing something via ranged headshots

vs WS

[mortal aspen]

still better than just getting passive benefit

[faint beacon]

where its just play the game

get stacks

[hearty panther]

like i do have to actually think about landing a couple intentional headshots first

just to be sure

[faint beacon]

This which makes me feel bad

that im shooting a poxer in the head

but I need those MMF stacks

[hearty panther]

ill shoot a crowd but never just one

if i have to shoot a poxer to then get a gunner 1hk breakpoint

ill just put two shots on the gunner

same result, dont care

[faint beacon]

if I went from 10-0 cause of downtime

and then a horde shows up with no elites in play yet

[hearty panther]

yea

[faint beacon]

im going to shoot them in the head

[hearty panther]

thats when i hit the crowd

cause one shot will get you a couple 3 stacks p. easily

on most weps anyway

[faint beacon]

literally just shoot 3-4

and then Melee

[hearty panther]

yea

it jsut depends on the gun

3-4 shots of a bolter

a bit less forgiving than 3-4 shots from your vigi auto

[faint beacon]

Vigilants you might get some collat kills and just

[hearty panther]

plasma gun still lol

[faint beacon]

really only need to kill 1-2

[hearty panther]

one shot, max stacks, go ham

[faint beacon]

bet Combat Shotty is vile with it also

[midnight wyvern]

it feels fantastic with MMF yea

[hearty panther]

zarona

my bae

sprint around, land a melee crit, swap, special shot at head level

Houston we are go for launch

[faint beacon]

Agri CS probably can get some stupid BPs

[hearty panther]

but yea tunnel vision

very strong

60% replenishment at max is downright nonsensical

16% toughness per second from xstance alone

[midnight wyvern]

Id test havoc level stuff with solo mod in Psyk but I dunno how lol

[mortal aspen]

and people will still say zealot has better toughness gen

[midnight wyvern]

so ill just solo run a havoc 40

ezpz

[hearty panther]

Cause they do

Much less situational

Second Wind still the best toughness node in the game probs, second only to Walk it Off if at all

[faint beacon]

Veteran has one thing thats arguably better which is passive toughness regen (Catch a Breath)

but Zealot has a lot more situationally good ones

[hearty panther]

Pair that with the newly improved IJ nodes and it's very easy to stay alive even when you aren't fighting but just running

[faint beacon]

Veteran's toughness regen comes from either Ability

OR

Killing things

[faint beacon]

Enemies within Enemies without

buffed version is

SO LUDICROUSLY good

[hearty panther]

Also very good yeah

Basically what it used to be lol

On launch

[faint beacon]

Zealot basically has inverse CaB

with that and its just so fucking good

Admittedly CaB is also insanely good but if you get hit at all it goes down

[hearty panther]

Yeah Zealot still the only ones who can hold block and dodge and get all their toughness back. Arby still has to have the stamina available.

Or their dog I suppose.

[faint beacon]

stamina or simply stagger enemies

Veteran has it a bit harder either being not hit at all or Kill enemies before your team does

Psyker-

Ahem, moving on

[hearty panther]

Anyway so I run Born Leader without shame

[midnight wyvern]

I run it with all TDR generating nodes with exe stance and a plasma

spam generate all toughness so my team can still die

[faint beacon]

if we get Gale to go on about how busted Psyker is

we'll be here for a day solid

[midnight wyvern]

it would prob be better on shout so they regen into gold

lol

[hearty panther]

yea in havoc especially it can help guarantee your teammates get bumped into gold

unless they took a plasma shot

im which case lol big L dummy

[faint beacon]

Correction

Plasma gunner group

they're already instantly downed

[balmy ermine]

Just dodge

[tame lodge]

Relatable

[midnight wyvern]

wonder what I should take off to run it

[eternal venture]

Ape is a big gamer

[midnight wyvern]

weapon swap speed

[eternal venture]

I usually run into him in super late night H40s

at like, 2 in the morning

[faint beacon]

ApeWithAButterknife

[eternal venture]

Forgot to respond to this earlier, but yeah

Exe is the worst for getting out of a corner since it, well, can't

VoC and Infil will at least let you scurry out of a corner and let your arb/ogryn deal with the 5 crushers you left behind hehe

[faint beacon]

I feel like its really smart to run Shredders or Kraks depending on what your melee is with Exe

seeing thats your get out of a jam button

[eternal venture]

It's really noticeable on maps like Silo Cluster and Chasm Logistratum, which force you into these nonstop tight corridors AKA death zones

[eternal venture]

Yeah I agree

I love smokes, but getting caught out without frags or kraks as Exe is painful

[faint beacon]

Smokes + Exe are insane

but like you have to be

[eternal venture]

You have to position really well

[faint beacon]

REALLY good at avoiding those bad situations

or run Taxe

[eternal venture]

Smokes + Exe is my favorite playstyle right now

[faint beacon]

cause thats mobile and can get you out of a bad situation

[eternal venture]

It's a lot easier on some maps than others

[faint beacon]

Stagger Melee thats good at horde

[eternal venture]

Like if we had the Hourglass maps in rotation right now, it'd feel even stronger

But this rotation has all of the crappy tight corridor maps

I hate chasm logistratum!!!

https://tenor.com/view/hayase-yuuka-blue-archive-desk-slam-anger-gif-9924102004262469214

That little L-bend corridor after the hacking event is just brutal. There's a boss trigger in there, and hardly anywhere to backtrack to

[hearty panther]

everything after the mid event

[eternal venture]

If you get twins + a slug there, I hope you can at least murder the slug really quickly (AKA I hope you have an Evis/Hammer zealot)

Silo Cluster and Gloriana have the most brutal map starts, but get easier as you go on

[faint beacon]

Counter argument

WS Powersword

[eternal venture]

Logistratum gets harder after the mid event

[warm schooner]

Bolter krak exe mmf ws vet

[faint beacon]

shit nukes bosses

[eternal venture]

Ahh yesh PSword as well

[hearty panther]

counter argument
they also have nowhere to fall back to

[faint beacon]

Hence you better kill that thing quickly

or have a bubble psyker to stall the Slug for a minute longer

[warm schooner]

Tighter the space, more krak value

[eternal venture]

I had a H40 Gloriana run the other day with like 7 monsters and a captain in that starting area

[faint beacon]

(BON Cant puke in the bubble)

[eternal venture]

Somehow, we made it out alive

I love watching the puke stream swirl like a toilet bowl when you place a bubble on a slug

...Probably the most disgusting thing I'll type all week

And yeah Kraks don't have a target limit afaik

[faint beacon]

I've typed worse

[eternal venture]

clumping up a bunch of crushers into a corner and seeing them all pop is so satisfying

[hearty panther]

i fucken hate doming the slug

i get it, it works

really shouldnt be so good though

so lame

[eternal venture]

It's a very funny solution that works due to coding quirks

it's funny because even fire nade puddles will slip under a bubble

And flamer streams will pile up on the edges

But put a bubble on a slug? The barf stream just magically disappears

My guess is that it uses the same coding as a flamer, where the stream also just disappears the instant it touches the bubble zone. What's funny is that Trappers can still net you if they're right on top of you in a bubble, because the projectile technically spawns inside her before disappearing

[hearty panther]

its just all projectiles

[eternal venture]

yeah

I don't think I've ever seen what the projectile hitbox on the flamers looks like. I'm guessing it's just a box/sphere at the end of the stream

[midnight wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-sorprendido-shaquille-oneal-gif-23222312

[eternal venture]

Yeah I love seeing Ogryns get netted inside a bubble because they're so fat

and then they go WHAT WAS THAT

[fallen needle]

Took the rest of the day, but auric unlocked

[tame lodge]

Good enough

Get this Karker a havoc 40

https://tenor.com/view/get-this-man-a-true-lowtiergod-low-tier-god-true-gif-4673422440182131168

[hybrid plover]

it makes me so happy

that veteran got the clearance for their asthma medication

[tropic notch]

@faint beacon due to crushers and bulwarks being aids I may take krak tbh

Shredder is so good tho

I hate how they all spawn together

[midnight wyvern]

😭

my teammates just DO NOT want to live

let me monstrous specialist in peace

[native hamlet]

plasma gun has high finesse right? since im using power sword with it, im thinking about using weapon specalist to buff my ps to better brawl against hordes and monsters while plasma should be getting a cool 33% crit chance for more inconsistant consistant crit damage

[hearty panther]

It has finesse.

Whether we consider it high finesse is somewhat debatable I suppose.

[native hamlet]

interesting

[midnight wyvern]

I can confirm from hours of research in the past 30 seconds that it does indeed do damage to the head when you shoot the head

[hearty panther]

More damage to the head!

[native hamlet]

i think ur onto something

[midnight wyvern]

weapon specialist side is good for it so you dont have to reload too

[native hamlet]

i guess a better question would've been if plasma gun would benefit much from weapon specialist as it's mostly crit chance and then the qol perks below

[midnight wyvern]

it definitely benefits from the funny perks above it

[native hamlet]

gotten used to the reload tech but having to not do it at all sounds kinda funny

[midnight wyvern]

WS reload thing is just nice for Plasma because its reload takes 42 years

[native hamlet]

yeah. i was thinking of tryng mmf to help it hit headshots better on the lights and the cleave should mean hordes = max stack on 1 shot, but the nodes like right above it are infested with nurgle's blessing the amount of crap it is in relevance

[native hamlet]

maybe if we reload enough... we can see elder scrolls 6? 🥹

[midnight wyvern]

are all

https://tenor.com/view/cbum-my-honest-reaction-sigma-muscle-gif-27604114

goofy ah talents

[native hamlet]

what if 50% damage for doing darktide combat 🤔

[tall torrent]

IQ tax pickup

[midnight wyvern]

that is certainly a combination of words

[native hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-waddle-waddler-the-waddler-waddle-cat-weird-walk-gif-9738668264510949101

[midnight wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/buh-buh-cat-cat-twitch-twitch-emote-gif-2149547956468830794

[native hamlet]

i can't tell where this is supposed to stand

[hollow ibex]

Take it if dumb

[native hamlet]

[frank basin]

i didn't know head is mauler like

[midnight wyvern]

carapace yea

[faint beacon]

this right side combo is pretty much the Bread and Butter of every Vet build now

[tame lodge]

You can 2 shot it with Vigi

[midnight wyvern]

not mine

[faint beacon]

Well-

you're weird... and bumpy

[hollow ibex]

Tbf kinda hard to afford right side if you go MMF

Costs so much to reach the damn keystone

[sharp epoch]

we went from ranged class to melee class yay

[agile mango]

its for this reason that I never take marksman's focus

[hollow ibex]

Tbf you can afford both

[midnight wyvern]

I'd take right if I could afford it

but my build works for what its made for

[hollow ibex]

You just need to make… compromises

[midnight wyvern]

good nuff

[hollow ibex]

MMF good tho

[midnight wyvern]

yeah MMF makes for some interesting builds

some shit chonks

[agile mango]

mmf?

[midnight wyvern]

Marksmans focus

[heavy rover]

Massive mother fucker

[analog yacht]

I'm still a touch dubious on mmf ngl

[heavy rover]

I was able to run it in havoc 40 if that's any encouragement

[analog yacht]

oh yeah it's 100% viable in h40

[eternal venture]

It's more than fine for high Havoc

Arguably 'better' for a few select weapons than WS (basically Helbore)

[analog yacht]

but I more mean is it meta

[eternal venture]

Uh

I suppose?

Since the meta is being able to deal with gigantic blobs of armored units with massive health pools

[heavy rover]

Eh, who cares if it's meta. If it works it works

[eternal venture]

and MMF enables some weapons to deal with that

[analog yacht]

between the pathing to it being mid af and the damage bonus still being kinda clunky

idk it is still a damage bonus though

which like WS doesn't get

[eternal venture]

More damage is always good

The pathing to get to it is a little subpar yeah, unless you run Helbore

[heavy rover]

Ah, I've always been running helbore since the buff

[calm shard]

.5 second stamina regen my beloved

[tawny badger]

did somebody say hellbore buff

[midnight wyvern]

yeah

they're giving it deadly accurate

[little fox]

If I wanna just braced auto gun and shovel can I still survive the late game? Assuming im not playing like a fool

[hollow ibex]

yes

aurics at least

high havocs will be hard lol

[little fox]

Well what's the most dakka I can go while still remaining in the realm of possibility

[hollow ibex]

recon las mk xii or vraks iag for dakka

[little fox]

Recon las does satisfy the dakka urge even if it takes 500 bullets to kill a crusher

[hollow ibex]

you should generally be meleeing crushers

or just krak them

[little fox]

I was making a joke sir

[cunning haven]

should i swap agile engagement -> +25 toughness and reciprocity -> close quarters killzone?

i use recon + powersword. no real breakpoints needed just tryna be ammo efficient. i feel like my current talents dont proc often enough

[hollow ibex]

couldn't tell, shooting crushers is a very common noob trap

[little fox]

Oh lmao, first day I was googling flak vs carapace, how they interacted with various munitions etc

But I'm autistic so fair

[tropic notch]

One sec

[tropic notch]

Use this, https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d51275b-f9c4-4494-9b88-bfafbbbf4981/terrible-vet-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button you can take off always prepared

Recon doesn’t need it

[cunning haven]

my build is completely different. have focus target and shock trooper

and onslaught

[hexed wave]

Opinion: There should be a Steel legion specific Vet personality given the prevalence of the steel legion in the game (Morrow, Dukane) also goes without saying but add Armageddon as a selectable planet tied to the personality like Cadia

[fair shale]

Look I agree with you but man they'd have to do every regi atp

[tepid otter]

I think it'd be nice to have more personality archetypes than the usual gallows humor we have atm

Unless theres more idk about

[fair shale]

Idk

I never see Prof vets tbh

Its always loose cannons or cadians

[little fox]

Give me a krieg build where all I can use is flamers and a very overtuned shovel

[obtuse raft]

I'd be surprised if we ever get more voices. Each new one is more work than the last since every character needs interactions with every other.

[fair shale]

I was amazed they dropped an entire class with new voices

I was amazed when I learned one was Devora Wilde

[obtuse raft]

Ye if ever it'll be premium content

[tepid otter]

sadge

[floral creek]

I'm not lucky enough to get a 69/71 plasma gun, but which one is better for the moment; 60/80 or 70/70?

[tepid otter]

On dmg?

[fair shale]

Oh dude thats old

You can straight up dump charge rate now

[hollow ibex]

70/70

[obtuse raft]

Fatshark could probably fund darktide 2 by selling a 15$ kreig voice pack for all the lemmings

[hollow ibex]

you can, but it's not the dump stat

@tired egret is still correct

[fair shale]

Didn't they fix charge rate affecting damage?

[hollow ibex]

they did

the current stat distribution is not because of that

[fair shale]

Why is it like that then?

[hollow ibex]

it's to have 8 uncharged shots, and the highest rate of fire

possible

[fair shale]

Fair enough

[hollow ibex]

reddit is wrong (shocker)

[floral creek]

I can fire 8 shots with both, the 60 one gets me at 99 at the 8th shot, the 70/70 gets me to 100% but does not explode yet

[hollow ibex]

well with 60 charge rate

you're taking a hit to your fire rate

[fair shale]

Tbh I like the slower shots but

I run optimized cooling blaze away

[hollow ibex]

but yes you can fire 8 uncharged shots with 60 charge

[fair shale]

So the slower shots gives me a lil more time to aim

I think if I ran the standard gets hot+other one I'm blanking on I'd like the firerate

[fallen needle]

First havoc

[little fox]

You're all running shovel right?

[hollow ibex]

sorry to hear that, hope you get better soon

[fallen needle]

felt.... light? damnation was worse

[primal zealot]

early havocs are like malice or some other shit

[unreal nova]

25+ is when it gets going.

[fair shale]

Havoc doesn't become a proper challenge till 25

Yeah

They get "harder" around 20

You can legit run through them till 16

[fallen needle]

huh. makes sense

[unreal nova]

You are probably still playing heresy++

11-20.

[native hamlet]

yeah

as you keep going, gradually enemies get tougher and you get less toughness and health

[fallen needle]

heresy is comfortable. damnation is 50/50. auric is when i ask the wife to hop on

[native hamlet]

you could probably already visually see the difference if you're in havoc 16

i think if you do an auric maelstrom you get auto bumped to like 16?

[unreal nova]

Honestly 25-30 is more auric mael++

[native hamlet]

no i mean like instead of starting at hav 1 you start higher

[fallen needle]

theres auric maelstrom ?

[native hamlet]

there should be

they changed the ui layout and i don't fully know how to navigate it yet

[unreal nova]

Yeah? Though the comparison is more base statwise and the jacked up spawn rate.

[fallen needle]

i started yesterday so probably a dumb question

[unreal nova]

You need to switch to auric difficulty to see it.

Mael is now heresy and auric only.

[native hamlet]

no damnation auric??

[unreal nova]

Mhm.

[native hamlet]

that is interesting

[fallen needle]

oof. i did my maelstrom on heresy

[full osprey]

Was playing through the campaign of darktide and I finished a mission where they found the traitor on board. After that mission I wanted to get a cool helmet to match my shooters duty uniform and it turns out the shop keep was the traitor, AND THEY SERVATORIZED HER

Very grim

[tepid otter]

Really?

I never noticed lmao

[full osprey]

Very dark

[tranquil mist]

Welcome to 40k

[full osprey]

Rip heretic

Rough darts

[tranquil mist]

Now all they can say is compliance

[tepid otter]

Waste not want not

[full osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lobotomy-puss-in-boots-gif-27604384

[tepid otter]

I just vaguely remember Rannicks last line about him saying to someone to come get the body

Least they made good use of it

[full osprey]

Yeah but woof

Needless to say I’m not shopping there anymore

1.5 stars

[foggy rune]

Are you sympathetic for that dirty heretic?

[full osprey]

It was a little jarring lol

[foggy rune]

[full osprey]

[tepid otter]

should do more tiny details like that

even tho it just went right pass me kekw

[foggy rune]

Should we call the arbiter over?

[hollow ibex]

ok i take it back

columnus still sucks

IAG that is

[remote sonnet]

It is the fast firing one?

[hollow ibex]

middle child

the DPS is just very lacking

even with 15 stacks mmf lol

like i'll stop shooting, thinking the target is dead

but no

muscle memory from faster-killing IAGs (agri and vraks) lol

[remote sonnet]

Its good point is the ammo count.

That's it.

[hollow ibex]

yeah basically lol

[remote sonnet]

In term of damage per mag, it is higher than the other 2.

[hexed wave]

all steel legion cosmetics should have the steel legion patch and i think it was simply overlooked in the other cosmetics. also it should be on the left boot as well

[tepid otter]

so the in game ones dont have it?

the patches or iconagraphy i mean

[hexed wave]

the first one that ever came out has a white patch with the aquilla on it, then the long trench coat has no symbols at all

[tepid otter]

Maybe it was on purpose since we're playing as a bunch of rejects with secondhand gear supplied by the inquisition

[gilded wraith]

Are any of the Marksman's Focus modifying talents worth grabbing?

[tame lodge]

The toughness replenish one

Tunnel Vision

[gilded wraith]

Thanks!

[wraith lion]

Two questions about executioner's stance

Does it apply to grenade damage
Does the ally highlight refresh on an ally kill or just yours

[hollow ibex]

no, and just your own

ally highlight is just shooting yourself in the foot tbh

hurts your own refresh

[wraith lion]

Does Infiltrate's +30% damage apply to frags

[hollow ibex]

yes

as does CQKZ

(hence stealth bomber build being reaaaaally fucking funny)

[wraith lion]

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-six-video-game-soldier-throw-smoke-im-ready-gif-4123534090510221338

Thank you for determining my build

I assume throwing a grenade breaks stealth?

[hollow ibex]

underhand toss does not

only overhand

[wraith lion]

PEAK

[grand perch]

hard disagree now

especially since you can extend ES duration to 8 seconds

thats an eternity to kill any 1 marked target

extremely potent combo with smokes and perfect counter to plasma gunners

[hollow ibex]

you're going to take both the ogryn node and ally highlight

[grand perch]

you should see how eager people hunt specials, and especially plasma gunners, in havoc now

[hollow ibex]

boy i sure do wished i had that many talent points to spend!

[grand perch]

you easily can

[hollow ibex]

i can see more of an argument for havoc

i'm not doing that shit in auric

all the specialists belong to me

[hollow ibex]

i never have enough points, so not going to spend a point to make life more difficult on myself

[sharp epoch]

ally highlight isnt really that detrimental now that tac awareness is so bad ironically

[hollow ibex]

i just want it as an extra source of ES regen

[sharp epoch]

its only 5 seconds no matter how long you extend your own ES

[grand perch]

its not

and i have proven it

[sharp epoch]

doesnt it say right here

[hollow ibex]

fatshart lying? surely not

[grand perch]

#veteran-class message

see how long it stays active for ogryn? thats me extending it

[sharp epoch]

guess the text is wrong

exe stance vet is back guys

[native hamlet]

damn spearhead boltgun is cool. feels nice dunking on a boss if you have the space

[tepid otter]

new variant is my favourite so far

despite what people think

[hybrid plover]

I was trying havoc but everyone wanted me to use shout

i'll be real

i feel like i would have been better off with exe stance

[grand perch]

That's fair, it would be nice if the targeting sub node gave like 1 or 2 seconds of extra duration when a teammate kills an outlined target

[sharp epoch]

I feel like shout is just not that good anymore

[hybrid plover]

i feel like if you actually know what you're doing, it's just a better ability

way more practical uptime

[sharp epoch]

yup

[hybrid plover]

much more impactful down the line because of the extra damage and honestly

information is a powerful thing even when you're going more melee focused

[sharp epoch]

and what I used shout was for the full toughness refill, exe stance does the same thing but better

[grand perch]

Yeah I have to admit I underestimated the toughness regen utility. Together with born leader and other sources of t regen, it's a lot for the whole team

[native hamlet]

oh the new mark is for spear boltgun too? cool beans

i thought it was only bistol that got it. been liking that one on zealot for stagger utility

[sharp epoch]

I still don't take born leader, demo team is just better and I don't got any extra points

[hybrid plover]

i have topped every scoreboard in damage over the past day

it's kinda nuts when you have a good setup for it

[tepid otter]

was it you that gave me that bolter exec stance build

[native hamlet]

unsure if im using it wrong, but trying to get damage for the more damanging bistol felt rough, so for some builds where i got throwing knives i take it for stag. feels nice

[tepid otter]

Its bonkers, i love it so far

[hollow ibex]

yeah i really hope they address the talents that are purely beneficial for teammates

[hybrid plover]

it may have been me

[hollow ibex]

it's old design

and needs to be updated

[native hamlet]

true

[hollow ibex]

like arbi doesn't have anything like that

their support talents also affect the arbi itself

[native hamlet]

i would love to take it for altruism, but not enough i feel. i could compromise, but the greed is too much

[hollow ibex]

meanwhile vet gets dogshit like covering fire lmfao

[tepid otter]

yep, i feel like i have better control over it than the other one, but thats just me

[hybrid plover]

i'm glad people are starting to realize it's legitimately not bad at all

[hollow ibex]

because the recoil is straight up better

[hybrid plover]

more controllable, stagger is very helpful

on exe stance it can still hit meaningful breakpoints

[hollow ibex]

i prefer the original myself still

[native hamlet]

yeah. just taking a look at it and it being a single fire instead of a double burst sounds really good for qol

[hybrid plover]

hipfire being more accurate is really nice too

[native hamlet]

oh really? that's sweet

[tepid otter]

its glorious

[native hamlet]

i usually run run n' gun on bistol so haven't noticed much. that's a neat feature

[hybrid plover]

and unlike regular bolter, you don't end up overshooting your mag by mistake because of the lower rof

[native hamlet]

ya. looks more like a monster menace

[tepid otter]

that was like my main issue before too lmao

poggers of a gun tho

[hollow ibex]

i really think the new bolter shouldn't have the ammo/mag penalty

the damage penalty kinda sucks

[tepid otter]

the clip doesnt even look all that different too, size wise anyway

[native hamlet]

yeah lol. i had it running for a bit, but i realized it didn't look like it was doing much

[hollow ibex]

bigger frag rounds or something idk

[tepid otter]

someone mentioned another update comin a few months from now too, excited to see whats new on that one as well

[hollow ibex]

should be a winter update

[native hamlet]

oh yeah, how's exe stance? last i tried vet, everyone would laugh if you were thinking about it since it didn't offer any breakpoints

[hollow ibex]

it's great

used to be pretty hard to use well, but not anymore

[native hamlet]

unsure if the ult itself was bad or just was how it was back then with the balancing

[native hamlet]

nice to see it has a redemption arc

[grand perch]

It always offered BPs

[tall torrent]

exe stance is pretty nice even for melee

wallhack + toughness/s + stun immune is good

[hollow ibex]

stun immunne is what gets me killed lol

[native hamlet]

nice

[distant mural]

Exe stance with bolter is peak now

[native hamlet]

maybe i'll changed it up. so used to defaulting to shout for every build. gold toughness is cool and all, but been wondering about more offense

[hollow ibex]

i just don't use shout

shout boring

[native hamlet]

esp since havoc peeps like to soak up more dmg than usual

[distant mural]

Exe stance is way more fun. Sniping specials all day

[native hamlet]

yeah. i like the support but im worn out from using it all the time

[distant mural]

Exe stance is also much better support imo

[native hamlet]

yeah! the wallhacks look awesome

[distant mural]

Gold toughness is nice and all but getting rid of snipers and disablers preemtively is super usefull imo

[fair shale]

I think smart use of smokes and exe stance is cool

[grand perch]

Not to forget bombers

[distant mural]

Yeah pretty much anything thats qnnoying you just see and delete it

[native hamlet]

funnily enough today was the first time i brought mk4 helbore into live gameplay and about all my 4 missions with it were lights out

wallhacks would've def helped there lmao

[tall torrent]

exe stance is good

a lot more dmg for gun

tho it's kinda more ammo limited than CD limited

[native hamlet]

at least it's got utility incase you're running dry

[distant mural]

Whats cooldown?

Never have that with exe stance lol

[native hamlet]

do y'all take the "highlight all human shooters" or "ogryn and up are outlined" nodes?

[tall torrent]

Ogryn

[distant mural]

Yeah ogryn for more time

[grand perch]

I've been using ogryn now pretty much always

[native hamlet]

ah okay

[distant mural]

And take all the reload buffs u can get

[native hamlet]

oh right cuz if you kill a highlight it refreshes

[grand perch]

Eh not really needed

[native hamlet]

i was thinking people can already see big guys so not needed

[grand perch]

MMF and WS already give reload speed anyway

[tall torrent]

Shooter is better max uptime depending on ur gun but ogryn is nicer for going after the stuff that rly matter

[distant mural]

I take tactical reload and speed on elite kill and its a must on bolter imo

[sharp epoch]

its only taken cause it adds 8 extra seconds now to each refresh

the ogryns are a bonus

[grand perch]

Bolter, shotguns and plasma can do with reload speed, sure

Most others it's kind of a waste

[sharp epoch]

plasma reload speed is not needed

[tall torrent]

Nah just 1 reload speed enough

Plasma no need for reload speed

Only boltgun

[grand perch]

I know, I just reload skip
But some people like it

[native hamlet]

think i can get rid of redirect fire for boltgun/power sword? thinking i can give it up to slot in either iron will or agile engagement not sure which

[sharp epoch]

you didnt have iron will? 💀

[grand perch]

Then again some people swear on always prepared for plasma and I don't see it

[fair shale]

Tbh even prior to tree reworks I didnt see it

Just learn the animation cancel

[grand perch]

Vet rule #1
You will take iron will and you will like it

[native hamlet]

i had it, but i keep toggling it on and off between theorycrafting. i haven't gone into a mission without it yet (and i had shout so gold toughness was more preserved). i assume i will get my ass kicked if i dont have it haha

[distant mural]

Animation cancel cheesy and lame

[sharp epoch]

with shout is almost when its best because your alwyas getting that dr from it

[native hamlet]

i agree, though i've grown used to it

[hollow ibex]

wtf helbore partial charges are ridiculously powerful

mk4

[native hamlet]

true

iirc i didnt even need to charge to kill about all specials except mutie on the head with max mmf lol

[fair shale]

Tbf you barely even have to consider how large plasma mag sizes are

If youre effecient you normally only have to reload on the inbetween elevators

[sharp epoch]

unless its havoc

[fair shale]

If its havoc i think you should get over yourself and learn the anim cancel tbf

[native hamlet]

yeah. that's what i ended up doin'

[tall torrent]

Wasting 4 points to path for 2 reload speed talents is more lame

[distant mural]

No its called playing the game

[tepid otter]

theres an animation cancel for the plasma?

[native hamlet]

sometimes it's nice seeing it fully play out, but winning (or prolonging death long enough for funny moments) is too much of an opportunity cost

[native hamlet]

for the reloading yes

[fair shale]

Technically by animation canceling i am playing the game more cause I'm pressing more buttons

[tall torrent]

Animation cancel is called playing the game

[tepid otter]

How do you do it

[hollow ibex]

when the circle thing on the top during the last part of the reload begins rotating

sprint

plasma animation cancel is stupid easy

[grand perch]

https://youtu.be/eZfy98yzGy8?si=2wZENERSMwZtx77M

Look at 1:55

There's a demo, three spots in the animation where you can speed it up

[fair shale]

Ye olde 3 stage reload lol

[tepid otter]

Oh I see

[fair shale]

Im ngl I love animation cancellable reloads

It almost reminds me of GoW

Or BF2

I love sweet spot reload mechanics

[tall torrent]

Having animation cancel is almost always better than not having them

[fair shale]

Idk

They're tech

I enjoy tech, is fun

[little fox]

I wish we had scopes or something, so many iron sights suck

[grand perch]

Scopes suck though... At least the ones you can already mod on

[fair shale]

Some irons are way better than others

The God Emperor's real contribution with the bolter was those irons

[tepid otter]

think scopes would be kinda weird considering youre just beset on all sides by enemies almost half the time

[little fox]

Not like a sniper scope, like a holographic or something idk gun jargon

[tepid otter]

Ohh

Kinda like whats on the infantry lasguns?

[little fox]

Yeah, just wish there was more of that tbh

I prefer just the auto guns and they're so bad for long range, only because of their iron sights

[tepid otter]

maybe they should add weapon customizations in Darktide next, have our rejects just personalize their weapons of choice

sounds kinda neat

[little fox]

I'd love that tbh, nothing major just slight modifications would be nice

[tepid otter]

yeah that'd be nice

itd still be the same gun, in essence

[little fox]

Being able to put a flashlight on more guns at the very least lol

[dry cloak]

Which autoguns theres 3 kinds of them

[tepid otter]

Would definitely be useful on maps that have that Blackout modifier where its just dark as shit

[little fox]

Generally I prefer braces for dakka, but infantry is in fact my favorite. Haven't decided on which marks I prefer yet

[native hamlet]

for boltgun, cavalcade with puncture or cavalcade with shattering impact?

[tall torrent]

Infantry autogun V

[tall torrent]

Puncture + pinning fire for boltgun

[native hamlet]

could boltgun stagger captains? im worried about it not being useful vs monsters and captains

unless i'm missing something

[dry cloak]

Try the heavy iag

[inland canopy]

had fwendly psykers cover me when i was hellboring

[tepid otter]

think its better melee'ing the captains imo

[dry cloak]

Shields yes

Health it depends

[native hamlet]

maybe more worthwhile on lieutenants cuz their shield is down for longer

[tepid otter]

yeah i usually mag dump when the shield is down sine it kinda knocks you back too

[native hamlet]

though it would be an ammo sink. not sure how to make that up without being greedy for ammo

[native hamlet]

their chest should still be flak so puncture should still be effective

[tepid otter]

ive just observed that i can get more dmg in by just melee'ing as opposed to mag dumping them with a bolter before their shield goes back up

im not sure if theres a dmg threshold before it comes back up or like a timer

[native hamlet]

maybe i'll try pinning fire. theoretically i should be able to fire once in a horde and get max stacks yeah?
then redirect to big ugly

[native hamlet]

captains it appears to be a dmg threshold. lieutenants it's a timer

based off martyrdom thammer experiences

[tepid otter]

yeah, there was some cases where they already had the shield back up almost immediately after taking a chunk of dmg

so i couldnt get my timing in

it just weirded me out since i cant tell which ones are the caps from the leftenants sometimes

[tight plover]

been thinking of getting back on the game, is there a way to get the lasgun and shovel to be godlike

[fiery raft]

how's the power falchion?

[dry cloak]

Good

[fiery raft]

what's the dump stat on it

[dry cloak]

Mob, defences or power output

[fiery raft]

ight

is there any like

tech with it to know

[dry cloak]

Same stuff as relic blade

[fiery raft]

never used relic blade

[dry cloak]

Reginald has quick tutorial on power flachion

Watch it and younshould know everything

[fiery raft]

alright

[fiery raft]

out of curiosity, is there a veteran guide anywhere?

[dry cloak]

Check pins

[fiery raft]

hammer of the emperor?

[dry cloak]

Yup

[fiery raft]

is it outdated?

[dry cloak]

In perks section.

Weapons are up to snuff

This aint ogrynomicon thats always up to date

[fiery raft]

i just wonder about the new wep variants

and how good they are

[dry cloak]

The bolters arw fine. A bit worse for sniping but therwise prfectly fine

[sharp epoch]

no theyre like the worst weapons on vet

[tight plover]

damn

i liked them

[normal bay]

You can make something usable. Exe stance + MMF to juice up your lasgun. take whatever melee nodes you can afford and run kraks for armour lol

[odd sparrow]

Lasgun is still good if your aim is good.

Shovel is mid to my understanding

[normal bay]

Just don't expect "Godlike"

[tight plover]

im aware that there are some RNG perks or such that can make a godlike weapon, i so was just planning on testing my luck

[normal bay]

Only works if the weapon is up to the task

[sharp epoch]

theres not really that much rng anymore for building weapons its easy to get perfect weapons now

[tight plover]

idk what it is, i dont like embracing meta or the actually too good weapons and such, i like harships and grind

so i thought perfecting those two would make for a nice challenge

[sharp epoch]

well just playing veteran would be off meta, they were considered one of the worst classes last patch

[tight plover]

hm

[frigid shuttle]

Unless you are the skill level where you can solo, there will be plenty of hardship, even if you go full meta.

[distant mural]

Be free my bou play what u want u dont need meta justbuse what u like

Unless u play havoc u dont need to pay too much attention to that imo

[calm shard]

you should def embrace the meta for setting up weapons at least

the meta blessings/perks for weapons are often core functionality that give the weapons their identities

[fossil creek]

What is the meta in this game?

[fiery raft]

i think its still plasma and ds

[fossil creek]

ds?

[calm shard]

uuuuuh

[fiery raft]

but im likely wrong

[calm shard]

lot of class changes just happened

[fiery raft]

dueling sword

[fossil creek]

ahh

[calm shard]

Dueling Sword is like meta yeah

[fiery raft]

dueling sword is really good

[calm shard]

But every class has one unique weapon that's arguably better than it

[fossil creek]

rn im using the power falchion on almost all my vet builds

[calm shard]

or you're Arbitrator/Ogryn who obviously don't have it

[fiery raft]

i dont like using it cuz its a rapier

im not big on rapier

[fossil creek]

yeah same

[fiery raft]

i like combat knife

[fossil creek]

duelling sword isnt rlly cool

[fiery raft]

and im gonna try out the power falchion

but idk how good it is

i havent played since may

[fossil creek]

I think it's pretty good

[calm shard]

Path says it's a sidegrade to Rashad combat axe (top 5 vet melee)

IIb variant is much better

[fossil creek]

Using a wacky build rn

[fiery raft]

how does one use it

similar to the powersword?

[fossil creek]

Exec stance, infantry autogun, smoke nades

but mostly doing smoke nades for the penance

[calm shard]

nah it's like zealot relic blade

the weird one with the uppercut/overhead single target stuff

[fiery raft]

fuh ive never used that

what's the lethal prox build on the bistol agian?

[inland canopy]

you have to wave it way more times to get to the horde clear cleave

cuz it's up and down

[pseudo fiber]

Lethal/puncture

[fiery raft]

i mean the talent tree

still thank you

[fiery raft]

lame

ill still try it

[inland canopy]

fun weapons are for vanilla auric games

lmao hong kong havoc lobby

[fiery raft]

for now im just using my comb knife and vraks mk5 for auric maelstrom

[fiery raft]

just to get used to these changes

[tepid otter]

party finder in a nutshell?

[willow prairie]

rottrn armor and stim 😔

[midnight wyvern]

rotten stim is way better than rotten purple

fuck rotten purple

[willow prairie]

it better than the crusher i just about to kill heal back to full hp

encroaching garden ain't shit

[midnight wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-toothless-blah-blah-how-to-train-your-dragon-talking-gif-17916482

90 crushers all body blocking the 10 purples:

[tepid otter]

what are rotten purples

[midnight wyvern]

like rotten apples

[willow prairie]

like its bad

[tepid otter]

im guessing its a modifier right? i meant what does it do to the enemies

[fiery raft]

alice in chains

[pseudo fiber]

Purple is encroaching garden it makes the enemies heal eachother

Rotten armour I don't remember I know they fart on deathb

[tepid otter]

sounds horrid

[willow prairie]

green stim make every elite heal themself to full

[midnight wyvern]

its worse than that but its also not on every elite

and they're not always green stimms

the stimm adds health to them

so they can green stim at max health and get 2x hp on H40 lol

[fiery raft]

what role does the new bolter play?

like what's the main difference

it seems to be more of a sniping tool

[turbid ibex]

New bolter is more of a stagger/horde clear stick

[fiery raft]

i see it does a bit less dmg

[steel veldt]

I heard Cutthroat voice lines

I am really tempted to personality switch my Professional vet into the Cadian man

Just because of the combat ability voice lines Cutthroat has, ESPECIALLY VoC and Exe

"Sever the head, the body dies" goes so unbeliavebly hard.

Why did I pick Professional when I first started???

[turbid ibex]

Pros of playing VoC with cutthroat: amazing lines with an amazing VA
Cons: VoC 💤

[pseudo fiber]

He's the most popular pick

Go feed the good doctor 50000 odro dockets

[steel veldt]

Who, Pro?

Also sick sona m8

[pseudo fiber]

Oh thank you!

[pseudo fiber]

Yeah professional they made a "John darktide' post a while back

[steel veldt]

Wait what

Show me

Also show sona too

[steel veldt]

No way

Hahahahha

[inland umbra]

does the crime change the colour of customizations btw?

[pseudo fiber]

Yes

[fiery raft]

has anybody got a exe stance bolter build?

[steel veldt]

I made one on a whim

[inland umbra]

holy shit I need to personality scourge

or make new characters

[steel veldt]

Damn he's hot

[turbid ibex]

Oooh i didnt know that

Thats neat

May save up the dockets so i can change up my psyker and ogryn then

Not a fan of the red on them

But on vet and zealot i like it

[steel veldt]

I have enough Dockets to personality scourge but for some reason it feels wrong to do it

Then again choosing Pro and not Cadian Man whilst HAVING the choice because I picked my home planet as Cadia makes me sick

What is wrong with me?

[tepid otter]

god what is up with havoc

[inland umbra]

how bleak is it??

[tepid otter]

ive been disconnected thrice now and 3 times ive reconnected

[inland umbra]

I've been looking to make a veteran havoc build and I was gonna ask for advice

new modifier

tzeench's interventions

[midnight wyvern]

rotten is the disconnector and the crasher lol

stacking debuff with havocs already sad servers

[pseudo fiber]

It's super buggy rn I'd wait

[tepid otter]

sheesh, really?

[inland umbra]

it's basically just after the update

[fiery raft]

i forget, what's the bistol lethal prox talent tree look like?

[steel veldt]

Wanna see my dude btw

[pseudo fiber]

100%

[steel veldt]

I got way more obv

But this is a taste

[pseudo fiber]

Very good

I like the rain on the left one

[grand perch]

ha, way back when ilas XII was meta

[pseudo fiber]

The good old (bad) days

[grand perch]

but it was going out of fashion even then iirc

[inland umbra]

I only started playing the game a little before arbitrator was announced

[steel veldt]

Thanks haha

You'd like this one too

Me thinks

[tepid otter]

still looking for a build?

[inland umbra]

for a havoc viable veteran, yeah! if you got any advice or a full on build

or any good/fun build tbh

[tepid otter]

I just started dipping my toes into Havoc just recently too tho so i cant say much

[steel veldt]

I just play on Auric

[tepid otter]

just that plasma and power sword is still meta on it

[steel veldt]

Damnation now because of Plasma boys

[tepid otter]

Horrid buggers

[turbid ibex]

Helbore is also really good

[tepid otter]

With the new Exec yeah its actually pretty powerful

[grand perch]

It was S tier before as well

I just wasn't a widely known fact

And maybe it still isn't

[turbid ibex]

One motion getting its bonus doubled was also pretty big for it

Meanwhile ogryn is still stuck with +20% swap speed

[tepid otter]

ive just one tricked vet since starting so idk what other changes the other class had if im being honest

played a bit of Zealot, but Ive only got it at level 20 something rn

[turbid ibex]

Ogryn was mostly just minor changes

Except for crunch getting nerfed to the ground

[mortal aspen]

so long as people are still watching tanner, they'll think DS and Plasma are the only meta choices

[steel veldt]

I main Zealot

[mortal aspen]

I know people who still think Ogryn is weak

[steel veldt]

You should play Zealot

[normal bay]

Some people have considered Ogryn weak since the rework

[willow prairie]

literally just tanner

[normal bay]

Nah, theres been other crazies

[mortal aspen]

he has an audience, so it's a sizeable number of people

[steel veldt]

Is Tanner the funny guy I get on YT

[turbid ibex]

Tanner when i delete the sun (he cant tan anymore)

[steel veldt]

Who edits funny

[inland umbra]

same here, I accidentally went into a havoc level 22 and somehow made it out alive and decently helpful to the team

[mortal aspen]

no, tanner shows meta builds in the psykanium

[steel veldt]

I recall someone on the subreddit calling him a furry (derogotory) and his comment was deleted by mods

Is that true

[steel veldt]

Yeah him

[fiery raft]

i watched tanner for a bit but i dont like his stuff

[steel veldt]

I watch him for fun

[dry cloak]

Good

[steel veldt]

I don't use his builds

[fiery raft]

wdym?

[steel veldt]

But I have 100 hours only

So I listen to his tangents

[dry cloak]

Hes wrong on mostly everything

[inland umbra]

really?

[dry cloak]

Yes

[inland umbra]

thankfully I don't think I used any of his builds then

as far as I know

[willow prairie]

yeah the femboy bigot racist tidetuber

[distant mural]

Is tanner the guy allways saying your build needs to da any and everything at once?

[dry cloak]

Yeah

We dont like him

He insulted hank

He i sulted ogrynomicon

[willow prairie]

the perilous combustion and kinetic deflection bad guy

[fiery raft]

waht

[dry cloak]

And ogryn dont like being insulted

[steel veldt]

Wait what

[dry cloak]

Yeah

[willow prairie]

yes and it not a lies

[dry cloak]

I can vouch for that

[fiery raft]

are u meming

[dry cloak]

We are as a matter of fact not

[steel veldt]

To who is he racist

Like which group of people

[dry cloak]

Everyone

[steel veldt]

So he isn't racist

[inland umbra]

that's called being hateful, no?

[dry cloak]

He is racist to ogryn

[inland umbra]

what

[steel veldt]

what

[willow prairie]

no he actually racist

like actually

[dry cloak]

Like he hatea ogryn

A loy

[willow prairie]

no he hate black people like fr

[steel veldt]

Do you have proof of that?

Because from me watching like 2 of his vids I never noticed

[willow prairie]

where fyve when you need him

[dry cloak]

New videos?

[inland umbra]

irredeemable, disgusting, enemy of mankind at large

[willow prairie]

mostly in other comment section and on his steam comment

but it is true

[steel veldt]

If that is true I am gonna stay hard away from him

[midnight wyvern]

💀

[steel veldt]

So please find it for me or direct me to where to find it

[willow prairie]

I mean just ask @tropic notch

[fiery raft]

i havent watched tanner in atleast 8 months so im all good on avoiding him

[willow prairie]

man literally goes to his steam profile to talk shit

[dry cloak]

Like ask hank or people on ogryn chat about him

[willow prairie]

also in his dc

[crude wind]

he's definitely a racist. Against black people specifically, based on evidence.

[steel veldt]

Christ

[crude wind]

there's a photo of him and a buddy dressing their toons like KKK members

[steel veldt]

????

Like his yt pfp guy?

[crude wind]

all white hooded zealots lol

and horrible names

[steel veldt]

:(

[crude wind]

pretty blatant

[midnight wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-screams-then-dies-gif-22962780

[willow prairie]

tanner lore

[crude wind]

so like, yeah he may know a lot about the game but who cares when he's that kind of person

[steel veldt]

Tanner? More like 4channer

[crude wind]

v much so

[steel veldt]

Yeah Imma look into it thanks mate

Fuck him then

[mortal aspen]

he called a chatter the n-word in anger once

[fiery raft]

damn

[distant mural]

His builds are ass tho😂

[dry cloak]

Hes wrong a lot about the game

[steel veldt]

And I assume he never apologised for it

[dry cloak]

He pushes ,,THE META,, and its wrong

[midnight wyvern]

perilous combustion - kinetic deflection bad

probably should've given you an indiication of the this man is

[steel veldt]

I never played Psyker

:(

[midnight wyvern]

they're both very good talents

[distant mural]

Psyker is fun

Stronk

[steel veldt]

I am tempted to make a Psyker

[crude wind]

never watched any of his 1hour+ long vids so wouldn't know 😛

[midnight wyvern]

one makes psyker pretty block tanky and the other is free spread of soulblaze for something you're doing already

and an actually good spread of SB

[crude wind]

fun class, fragile af but very powerful

[distant mural]

Good dont bother basically all his builds focus on doing everything

[midnight wyvern]

not even very fragile anymore lol

[distant mural]

Wich surprise doesnt work

[midnight wyvern]

Glass cannon got reinforced glass this update

[willow prairie]

I literally don't get where the psyker fragile thing come from

never the case even before update

[crude wind]

will take your word on that, I don't really play Psyker and haven't tried the new updated tree yet

[midnight wyvern]

they just lacked TDR but they had giga regen

[steel veldt]

I just like mobility based classes (rogues)

[willow prairie]

literally the most braindead class

[crude wind]

play Zealot

[steel veldt]

Which is why I main Zealot

[crude wind]

lol

there ya go

[steel veldt]

I main Zealot

[crude wind]

srysry

[dry cloak]

Filthy zealot main /j

[distant mural]

It was very fargile

[midnight wyvern]

I want to play more zealot

[distant mural]

You died from a gust of wind

[crude wind]

it sure would be cool if they added another mobility based class. heavens even knows what that could be

[steel veldt]

Doesn't he SCREAM that I am a Zealot main

[turbid ibex]

Zealot was the class i played the most way back when i first played

[steel veldt]

Filthy

[crude wind]

Zealot is super fun now

[midnight wyvern]

I started with psyker

[dry cloak]

Psa to all zealot players. Making a zealot guide is bannable offence

[crude wind]

apart from Prayer but at least you can catch up on reading if u run prayer

[midnight wyvern]

so is talking about zealot in zealot chat

[turbid ibex]

Only one i had gotten to 30 before i returned a bit after arbites released

[steel veldt]

I juat like Shroudfield and DS

[dry cloak]

I mean a proper guide

[distant mural]

I played vet and ogryn the most

Then psyker then zealot

[midnight wyvern]

the uptime on it is really nice

[steel veldt]

DS is the closest I get to weebstick and Shroudfield is the rogue skill

So yk

It fits me perfectly

:D

[pseudo fiber]

The zealot guide corrupts you and makes you evil then you get banned

[steel veldt]

Yeah the new buffs make it usable for me on Auric/Damnation

Before I couldn't justify the 30 sec CD

When Fury was like, 2 charges

And it regens in 8 sec

[midnight wyvern]

fury just had better pathing with the old tree too

[turbid ibex]

30 sec cd was like nothing lol

[steel veldt]

Considering Fury regens so fast tho

[midnight wyvern]

old CD was dumb though

[distant mural]

Fury is atill very nice

[turbid ibex]

Old invocation and pious were insane

[steel veldt]

Oh definitely

[steel veldt]

Yeah 30 sec to oneshot something is like... just use Fury and 3 shot everything every 8 sec

[azure narwhal]

Zealot got enough damage reduction to survive for another 40000 years

[midnight wyvern]

no like, ability to get things back

lol

[steel veldt]

Like toughness?

[distant mural]

You can 1 shot crushers easily with fury and evis

[turbid ibex]

Invocation of death and pious

Before rework

[dry cloak]

Like ogrynomicon

[steel veldt]

That too

[dry cloak]

Yeah

[midnight wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-waddle-waddler-the-waddler-waddle-cat-weird-walk-gif-9738668264510949101

[steel veldt]

Catto

[fiery raft]

anyone have any recommended builds?

im kind of stagnant rn

[midnight wyvern]

no

builds aren't real

[last marten]

is this ai

[midnight wyvern]

wouldn't you like to know

[last marten]

yes, thanks

[tame lodge]

We figured out that if it's there's multiple contributors then you don't get banned

If you're writing it solo

Then bye bye bye

[midnight wyvern]

so make some alts

gg

[scenic solstice]

they nerfed a gun that i just got good stats on

are you shitting me

[grand perch]

Yay ammo bug fixed

[grand perch]

Whatchu talking about

[scenic solstice]

oh thank god i misread

🙏

[deep bone]

Epic

[grand perch]

They hotfixed plasma gunners yeah

[scenic solstice]

I misread it thank you devs 🙏 🙏

[deep bone]

Plas gunners got nerfed

[midnight wyvern]

peak

[scenic solstice]

oh peak

ive been crashing for a while

[mortal aspen]

introduced 10 more crashes

[scenic solstice]

real

[mortal aspen]

[willow prairie]

havoc finally playable on rotten armor

[red portal]

Havoc 40 now instantly crashes.

Oh well I have to see what they did when I get back home from sea.

[steel veldt]

Curious, when was the personality scourge added to the game

or was it always tehre

[drowsy goblet]

whats the difference between all the helbore lasguns?
dont have them unlocked but it looks like... different max charges? am i getting it right?

[pseudo fiber]

During path of remptoons which released April 2024

[steel veldt]

Thanks mate