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#veteran-class
trim badger
unreal nova
That's meat.
trim badger
Thrust collateral sound badass
trim badger
Give me heretics to brochette
uneven cedar
xD
open ravine
I remember playing a game and now I can't remember it's name but you had this weapon where you kebab the enemies heads up to like 3 heads then you got empowered attacks
unreal nova
I remember playing a game and now I can't remember it's name but you had this we...
So, increase the forwards hitbox of the dueling sword and let it hit 3 enemies regardless of cleave while lowering the ADM somehow. Gains a short buff if three heads are hit with the thrust to buff the next followup strike/thrust.
open ravine
What no I just want to mention it because I saw kebabs
unreal nova
So if you git gud and keep chaining hordes with also striking funni elites... XD
velvet gale
What aura do you like best on the Veteran?
open ravine
What aura do you like best on the Veteran?
Which ever is least taxing on the build I am doing
unreal nova
What aura do you like best on the Veteran?
Survivalist. I just play a selfsufficient build to compensate for the ammo hungry players.
open ravine
Vet tree is so taxing
Actually is vet tree still the most expensive to reach the bottom of it
velvet gale
Ty
unreal nova
Actually is vet tree still the most expensive to reach the bottom of it
Which class is the ONLY class where keystoneless is viable due to lack of enough talent points?
open ravine
Okay vet isn't the longest it's tied with pyskers and zealot at 19 points while ogryn and arbites are at 17point
unreal nova
Okay vet isn't the longest it's tied with pyskers and zealot at 19 points while ...
Thing is, you need things from at least 2 paths to be a decent build.
Or to meet breakpoints.
open ravine
This is just straight down the middle and not taking in the sides branches in case those are longed or shorter
open ravine
Thing is, you need things from at least 2 paths to be a decent build.
Yeah rebranching on the 3 human classes is expensive and really dampens build variety especially on zealot and vet who's nodes and abilities need a face lift
Actually psyker isn't that expensive thanks to their spider web design where there are diagonal connections
hollow ibex
Actually psyker isn't that expensive thanks to their spider web design where the...
Yeah prob because psyker got a rework and fatshart realized the three paths design is terrible lol
open ravine
I thought they only got tweaked and not reworked
mortal aspen
I think ADS Revolver weapon specialist is becoming one of my fav builds. Is it good enough in high havoc?
And maybe somebody can link an optimized version of it?
grand perch
revolver gets taken out back and shot in havoc
doesnt hit breakpoints anymore and lousy ammo economy
hollow ibex
is double barrel WS good till havoc too? or only auric lol
Works in havoc too
Prob not meta
But works
calm shard
is double barrel WS good till havoc too? or only auric lol
yeah lol
it's not meta but it beats using the cookie cutter stuff
narrow frost
is double barrel WS good till havoc too? or only auric lol
It's amazing strong in havic
You just need to be able to handle melee
I have a few videos with Psword and Dbarrel, with smokes : )
barren girder
ty!
i love psword so this is a plus
i might actually miss how it works now if they change it to work the way relic blade does
crude wind
I doubt they will touch the existing powerswords
past stratus
My only problem with the psword is that the animations are not as cool and impacting as they should be for a such a powerful and iconic weapon lore wise
hollow ibex
I doubt they will touch the existing powerswords
My hope is a new mark or separate psword using RB mechanics 😭
crude wind
I hope so too! 😄
little path
I want a spear :(
heavy rover
My hope is a new mark or separate psword using RB mechanics 😭
Sounds like a fair compromise to me. Those who prefer the old mechanic get to keep it. Those who prefer the new mechanic get to use it
Plus who would complain about another weapon for vet
hollow ibex
Plus who would complain about another weapon for vet
As long as they don’t use this as an excuse to be like
See? Vet got another weapon. We’re all set now
hollow ibex
Recon lasgun
marsh pivot
Is mk xiv not the best?
orchid hemlock
tame lodge
Is mk xiv not the best?
It is but it isn't
You can 4 shot some elites with it
Or you can just go maximum brrrrrr
marsh pivot
BRRR
elder vessel
Recon Las Brain
quiet valley
karmic goblet
For the Make Every Shot Count penance does your accuracy have to be exactly 90%
And if so how do I do that
marsh pivot
Or above
karmic goblet
Oh
marsh pivot
Just hit every shot
normal bay
For the Make Every Shot Count penance does your accuracy have to be exactly 90%
At least 90%
karmic goblet
Nice
marsh pivot
Use a revolver, easy
Don't use aoe weapo such as boltgun or boltpistol
Use precision weaponn
normal bay
Double barrel
Who needs to aim
marsh pivot
Iirc it counts every pallet
normal bay
As long as one of them hits, it counts
ember nest
I checked pins but I can't find the dump stat for helbore
marsh pivot
stability
ember nest
kk ty
and what perks would you snag on the highest damaging one
also why did they rename them all aaargh
past stratus
Someone said you can just empty your revolver hitting every shot then never using the gun for the rest of the match you get the penance. Should be doable in lower difficulty
ember nest
huh
gleaming viper
best power sword dump stat?
hot crag
I did it with the slug combat shotgun
hot crag
best power sword dump stat?
Ppl said cleave target
gleaming viper
is slaughterer not good on power sword?
tame lodge
Better options atm
Power Cycler is mandatory
Then either Brutal Momentum or Sunder
Depending on the sword
barren nimbus
Wow veterans can deal damage again lets go
gleaming viper
what is power sword meant for
i was hoping the power would work like the rune sword instead of the insufferable spam activate shit
tame lodge
what is power sword meant for
Killing everything when powered
From hordes to carapace to monstrosities
heavy rover
is slaughterer not good on power sword?
It's useful in havoc when you're dealing with the Final Toll modifier
But in general brutal momentum would serve you better most of the time
gleaming viper
i am confused why slaughterer isnt as good as Brutal Momentum or Sunder
i guess those both help against heavy targets
whereas slaughterer requires killing squishies as well
tame lodge
Brutal Momentum deals first target damage to 4 targets on weakspot kills
The 5th target takes second target damage
It's just a kill more blessing
Sunder is essentially 400% cleave
gleaming viper
for exectuioners stance, does the perk that lets teammates also see the highlighting also refresh it if teammates kill them?
odd sparrow
for exectuioners stance, does the perk that lets teammates also see the highligh...
No only initial 5 seconds. Which makes it pretty bad unfortunately
gleaming viper
yea if anything that means teammtaes are just more likely to take kills I need
hollow ibex
No only initial 5 seconds. Which makes it pretty bad unfortunately
Pretty sure that’s not the case
And it stays on
It’s still shit tho
hollow ibex
also really use Dum Dum on Recon?
Yes
It’s mandatory
If a gun has dumdum you take it
hollow ibex
whats the best dump stat on plasma gun
See here
proper delta
whats the good recon lasgun mk
hollow ibex
VI or XII
gleaming viper
people on reddit were saying 71% is outdated but idk
proper delta
whats the current guide for how to build? pins are from last year
hollow ibex
people on reddit were saying 71% is outdated but idk
They are very wrong and conflating two separate things
It’s Reddit after all
hollow ibex
I thought you went headtaker or something for the crit chance
Trap talent for recon las. You get a lot of crit from reciprocity already and DD buffs Infernus DOT damage
hollow ibex
whats the current guide for how to build? pins are from last year
HOTE guide is still mostly up to date but it doesn’t have builds
Can ask here for build
proper delta
whats a plasma build and a recon lasgun build and then im chilling
with psword / shovel
i havent logged on to vet since they changed it and all my builds are gone
proper delta
L
tame lodge
Legit have no idea what curios I was running on proper builds
gleaming viper
best grenade ?
long dove
Trap talent for recon las. You get a lot of crit from reciprocity already and DD...
oh okay
gleaming viper
really i just assumed kraks were best cos i can clear fodder with a sword
tame lodge
Yes really
2 frags and a trash horde dies
Kraks are basically for big targets and even then they are a bit underwhelming
tame lodge
A teammate is more likely to kill your kraked target than the Krak to go boom
gleaming viper
will i blow up if i overcharge this plasma gun
tame lodge
Only on charged shots
long dove
A teammate is more likely to kill your kraked target than the Krak to go boom
I learned that when doing Armourbane Penance
long dove
Only on charged shots
Also learned that the hard way
tame lodge
If you just spam uncharged shots then you never explode
long dove
but charged up shots slap
fathom imp
I just want the lasguns to be better man, is that too much to ask?
Veteran players are stinky
Guardsman players are the gigachads amiright gang?
gleaming viper
so vetern with plasma gun is meant to be op right
elder vessel
Kraks are basically for big targets and even then they are a bit underwhelming
THEY TAKE
TOO
FUCKEN
LONG
fathom imp
so vetern with plasma gun is meant to be op right
Meant? I dont think so. Is it though? Yeah if youre playing it right
gleaming viper
well i was told its op but obviously idk
tryna work out how to play it, it doesnt seem crazy
proper delta
can someone link me to a plasma build for havoc or a recon lasgun build for whatever
fathom imp
A shout vet with plasma and dueling sword is one of the best possible options for havoc
Like 100% broken
hollow ibex
can someone link me to a plasma build for havoc or a recon lasgun build for what...
I don’t use plasma
gleaming viper
why is the shout good?
hollow ibex
So idk about that one
proper delta
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e3a17a9-c4c4-4f9b-855b-c37250ad14f2/ba...
ty
fathom imp
why is the shout good?
Knocks every enemy off of you in a panic, fully refills toughness and gives you gold toughness
Gold toughness doesn't allow any damage to pierce through your toughness bar
And you have it up every 30 seconds at minimum
long dove
A shout vet with plasma and dueling sword is one of the best possible options fo...
It's pretty much the only option other than recon
gleaming viper
ive been using the enemy highlighting one cos it seems good for picking groups apart
long dove
Gold toughness doesn't allow any damage to pierce through your toughness bar
No pick up talent?
tame lodge
can someone link me to a plasma build for havoc or a recon lasgun build for what...
Plasma
fathom imp
ive been using the enemy highlighting one cos it seems good for picking groups a...
Well thats a capstone, not your primary ability
fathom imp
No pick up talent?
What's that?
long dove
What's that?
The talent on shout that let's you pick up a downed ally by yelling
gleaming viper
Well thats a capstone, not your primary ability
i mean the ability
hollow ibex
The talent on shout that let's you pick up a downed ally by yelling
It’s quite bad
fathom imp
The talent on shout that let's you pick up a downed ally by yelling
Yeah that's bad
long dove
It’s quite bad
Was just asking cause utility but fair enough
fathom imp
I mean realistically you'll have the plasma to clear a horde no problem, shout gives you enough time to res, or you will have an arbites/ogryn to do it
I mean hell chorus zealot is also meta so just do res while he holds them off
long dove
fair
hollow ibex
Was just asking cause utility but fair enough
If you want to see how bad it is. Take res shout without gold toughness mode
long dove
also I wish I had enough good luck to get the correct Plasma to drop
hollow ibex
It might actually be the worst possible ult setup for vet
long dove
I get it, I get it
fathom imp
also I wish I had enough good luck to get the correct Plasma to drop
That just takes a shit ton of money
Its worth it though
gleaming viper
I mean realistically you'll have the plasma to clear a horde no problem, shout g...
how do i use plasma to clear a horde
the splash damage seems shit
hollow ibex
Its worth it though
Until fatshart reworks plasma
tame lodge
That being said
hollow ibex
You kill high priority targets
hollow ibex
Any horde clear due to cleave is just nice to have
And incidental to the primary purpose of the gun
fathom imp
It does have like basically unlimited cleave so you spam a few uncharged shots and the trash mobs are gone
Dueling sword to clear up the last armored guys and bobs your uncle
I feel the need to state, that all of this is coming from me, the single most anti-plasma gun vet player in the world
Hate that cursed object
gleaming viper
im testing it out but idk how to use it properly lol
why does it burn me to vent it
fathom imp
Q. Speaks the truth. I only use charged shots to build up extra heat for blessings, and then headshot crushers/maulers
long dove
AYYYY
long dove
Now to make the money needed to actually empower the bastard
hollow ibex
Me after spending 2.5m and still not getting a perfect roll
long dove
Me after spending 2.5m and still not getting a perfect roll
Should I sell/discard my old one?
hollow ibex
Should I sell/discard my old one?
Idk what it looks like but plasma is getting reworked so I’d keep it
past stratus
I just roll with one that is 60% Thermal and I think the only time I burned was when I was checking how many charged shots I could do before death
long dove
I thought it was just a nerf to uncharged shots
hollow ibex
I thought it was just a nerf to uncharged shots
Well charged shots will almost certainly see a buff
long dove
How good is the Chainsword for horde control?
long dove
so what would be a good havoc weapon? I was starting to enjoy the shainsword
hollow ibex
If you want to use chord, arbi is the only class that can make it work
hollow ibex
so what would be a good havoc weapon? I was starting to enjoy the shainsword
Psword for vet
long dove
If you want to use chord, arbi is the only class that can make it work
how so?
hollow ibex
Is by far the best
tame lodge
Unfortunately if we're talking about havoc
Then it's just powersword
long dove
Psword for vet
PSword feels terrible unless I constantly use alt
hollow ibex
PSword feels terrible unless I constantly use alt
Yeah you have to
tame lodge
When powered it's one of the greatest weapon in the game
When unpowered it's a pool noodle
hollow ibex
It’s a really good weapon to teach you positioning and melee defense basics 
long dove
btw which versionof Psword to use?
hollow ibex
btw which versionof Psword to use?
6 is better
long dove
Why?
ocean idol
Damn, i am doing pretty strong vet build with plasma gun and weapon spec
hollow ibex
Can block cancel the charge
ocean idol
but arbitres just outdamage me so easily
hollow ibex
So it’s just straight up better
ocean idol
ocean idol
Have about 5 iq
long dove
gotta admit though, the Chainsword goes hard with this fit
long dove
Have about 5 iq
Dude I'm tech illiterate most of the time
ocean idol
Dude I'm tech illiterate most of the time
iq issue
overall pretty simple
Just gotta drag some files in one specific folder
And put name of mod folder into text document
It is all explained somewhere
Or you can use some mod organisers, liek vortex
long dove
Yeah I know just something I don't really know to well. Of course I'm also the kind of guy who manually maintains old firearms instead of using tech and such
long dove
Or you can use some mod organisers, liek vortex
I tried that but it said it needed something installed first
steel fiber
my leg 😦
gleaming viper
best plasma gun encantments?
long dove
excluding the duelling sword
Well you exclude it cause it's not the best with crowds
dim escarp
i already got it so i exclude it
long dove
Power Sword apparently
barren girder
you cancel the charge by blocking then swing 3 times, repeat yea
if u get into a rhythm with it it slaps
no cooldown period like relic
low wadi
guys is my build haram?
long dove
if u get into a rhythm with it it slaps
Yeah just sometimes it feels awful to use
barren girder
it feels like playing piano with your mouse buttons sometimes yea
part of the fun for me tho LOL
past stratus
guys is my build haram?
A little bit yeah, Twinned Blast is a meme talent
low wadi
A little bit yeah, Twinned Blast is a meme talent
what about this?
heavy rover
I suggest removing longshot and switching to shredders
signal garden
pox gas havoc, also known as "my team is wading through the gas wondering why i aint following them"
low wadi
I suggest removing longshot and switching to shredders
whats wrong with krak?
heavy rover
pretty small radius that typically hits one target. With shredders you're more likely to stagger multiple enemies at once
past stratus
what about this?
there are a lot of things wrong with that but it also depends on what you want to do
heavy rover
plus also bleed stacks
signal garden
@low wadi something something point tax
past stratus
do you want to be efficient or just to have fun?
past stratus
I'll go by tiers, Krak Grenades are good while you're leveling and can't handle big enemies like Crushers with your weapons, because they are shit. Once you are level 30 and get access to good weapons, Frag grenades are generally better.
past stratus
as for the abilities, Executioner's Stance and Infiltrate are playstyle choices, they are not comparable to Voice of Command in terms of power, if you like em that's cool but I wouldn't recommend them.
Keystones, is down to Focus Target or Weapon Specialist. Marksman Focus is doable but it requires more effort than it is worth it
dim escarp
how do you take a screenshot of all your talents in 1 image?
long dove
A little bit yeah, Twinned Blast is a meme talent
works in my Nade build though
also getting Adept Assassin feels llike I'd rather pull my own tooth out with pliars
dim escarp
is veteran one of the harder classes?
long dove
define harder?
heavy rover
the keystones?
long dove
my nade vet primarily uses a knife and nades
dim escarp
Aibility
long dove
Shout is best for melee
dim escarp
I use that yea
long dove
or Infiltrator for backstabs
dim escarp
wish there was a charge forward action like zealot and arbites has
long dove
It's actually kinda fun
dim escarp
maybe a stretch
past stratus
this here is what I consider the baseline for any Vet build, there are some other good things that I also like to use but this is bare minimum for a more "meta" build.
gleaming viper
so what makes the plasma gun so good at clearing high level missions?
long dove
so what makes the plasma gun so good at clearing high level missions?
Wrecks carapace
gleaming viper
i guess it can wreck heavy enemies but what am i doing about the fodder
heavy rover
this here is what I consider the baseline for any Vet build, there are some othe...
good approach, though I suggest swapping Born Leader to For the Emperor
dim escarp
which keystone should i get?
gilded wraith
Shredder is generally the safest bet.
past stratus
in general in Darktide, you rarely want to shoot small guys. You usually deal with those a melee
dim escarp
im going melee
heavy rover
you don't have to use keystones
dim escarp
should i just maximise toughness?
low wadi
this here is what I consider the baseline for any Vet build, there are some othe...
where would u put the 2 extra points?
past stratus
good approach, though I suggest swapping Born Leader to For the Emperor
I don't like 5s buffs
gilded wraith
Krak is good in a premade, but frequently wasted playing with randoms.
long dove
should i just maximise toughness?
could go 2 tough,1 health, then 3 health perks and 2 tough perks
dim escarp
oh yeah i do that for most of my reliquaries
long dove
s'what I did
gilded wraith
Smoke is about the same, good in a premade, discouraged in randoms.
dim escarp
or what they are called
past stratus
where would u put the 2 extra points?
I would take out the extra grenade and try to go down to Trench Fighter, but that's just me
long dove
Smoke is about the same, good in a premade, discouraged in randoms.
Eh I used them for the penance
dim escarp
16+16 toughness and 20 health
gilded wraith
No issues using them for that, but penance farming can be easier in Mortis.
past stratus
where would u put the 2 extra points?
this here is really good and makes Melee combat on Veteran a little better. Melee is a really important aspect of Darktide in general
past stratus
Extra grenade is cool but not cool enough for the price
low wadi
this here is really good and makes Melee combat on Veteran a little better. Mele...
ty, im using this atm, is ok?
past stratus
plus with the grenade generating talents, you usually have enough for most situations
gilded wraith
I'm optimistic, but fatshark seems to balance around the game that existed 6 months ago, rather than the current.
dim escarp
whats the difference between the assault and heavy chainsword?
long dove
I'm optimistic, but fatshark seems to balance around the game that existed 6 mon...
Well a dev already said it's being worked on
past stratus
ty, im using this atm, is ok?
I think that's the optimal stats for that sword so it is good
heavy rover
isn't the heavy chainsword the two-handed one? that's for zealot
dim escarp
i thought it was 1 handed
past stratus
the Zealot Chainsword is called something else
dim escarp
idk i have it on my zealot
gilded wraith
Well a dev already said it's being worked on
If we saw the same reddit screenshot, people are reading a LOT into the dev response.
long dove
If we saw the same reddit screenshot, people are reading a LOT into the dev resp...
fair
long dove
idk i have it on my zealot
Zealot has the One and Two handed versions
dim escarp
if arbites gets a dog we should get a little cadia taskforce
heavy rover
yeah, vet only has one-handed
long dove
if arbites gets a dog we should get a little cadia taskforce
So 1 Vet?
gilded wraith
I want a Death Drone.
dim escarp
sergeant morrow is our dog
long dove
Gimme a damn Hot-Shot Las Gun
gilded wraith
long dove
That The Expanse?
dim escarp
Is the catachan sword good for anything?
i never see anyone use it except lvl 1s
ish
gilded wraith
The Sentry gun scene only released in certain editions of Aliens.
past stratus
I don't want them to make anything crazy, just take some of the shitty tax nodes and bake them into the actual talents then just put it in a good position so we can make cool choices
long dove
also apparently if I connect to Hong Kong server I have 3ms ping?!
long dove
I don't want them to make anything crazy, just take some of the shitty tax nodes...
and move them aroudn somewhat to have better choics
gilded wraith
I didn't have many issues until I saw the Lone Wolf to vet comparison.. that hurt.
past stratus
talk to Sefoni
it's the first option I think
she has a thingy next to the main mission terminal
long dove
ahhh right. Think solo with Psword and revolver can farm adept assassin in it?
fringe aspen
Is the catachan sword good for anything?
Decent horde clear and alright against armour if you use the parry
tame lodge
Is the catachan sword good for anything?
Only for parry
dim escarp
yes i just tried it
tame lodge
Sucks hard against flak armor
dim escarp
i didnt have much fun
its pretty slow for the size it is
kinda unexpected
the cleave is fine
hollow ibex
It’s pretty gimped
tame lodge
the cleave is fine
Yup
past stratus
kind of criminal honestly, it's a fun weapon with an unique mechanic
gleaming viper
best enchantments on plasma gun?
past stratus
it is whatever combination of those works for you
I'd say that if you're learning the weapon, Blaze Away + Optimized Cooling is good
lapis osprey
whats the gunners dodging tech as vet? have seen some people do it when they are the last one
sonic kayak
whats the gunners dodging tech as vet? have seen some people do it when they are...
Dodge and slide
For all characters
sonic kayak
Oh well they aimbot
Keep dodging and sliding, don't peak unless you're ready to blast them
Like literally spam that
Smoke negates gunners though
lapis osprey
I think the gunners cant aimbot you if u within melee range of any other enemies
tame lodge
whats the gunners dodging tech as vet? have seen some people do it when they are...
While sprinting?
sonic kayak
Running/sliding perpendicularly towards them negates some oncoming fire
You can also circle strafe them but yeah
lapis osprey
While sprinting?
whatever works to not get hit, i've seen people do it when they are the last one left
tame lodge
Ok there's a mechanic called sprint_dodge
calm shard
whatever works to not get hit, i've seen people do it when they are the last one...
you can slide out of dodges which significantly extends your dodge against ranged attacks specifically
hollow ibex
what power sword MK is better?
6
calm shard
you can also sprint at a steep angle from the gunners and that will make their shots miss if you have stamina
calm shard
I think the gunners cant aimbot you if u within melee range of any other enemies
Not true :)
lapis osprey
you can also sprint at a *steep* angle from the gunners and that will make their...
I think this was it
calm shard
They can aimbot you from anywhere at any time. Their bullets just cannot physically travel through their allies
Or most walls
calm shard
gotta be one of the most worthless mechanics in this entire game
It is almost never useful
lapis osprey
very useful, does it also work with just dodging instead?
past stratus
Dodging gives you invulnerability frames right? Like 0.5s of invulnerability
sonic kayak
civic knot
Did they ever bufff headhunter (vigilant) autoguns?
calm shard
No but the semi auto one is pretty okay
hollow ibex
I hate the semi
ember nest
KILLSHOT READY IS SO FUCKING BORING
heavy rover
if you ever want to try something silly, I suggest trying the mk iv helbore with sustained fire. It is hilarious
last shale
gotta say i just cant enjoy vet. it seems like most games i get downed in a few hits. my toughess goes from max to out in 1 melee and a single burst from any range enemy drops me from full hp to 1/4. ill try vet again after his eventual tallent rework coming soon™
hollow ibex
gotta say i just cant enjoy vet. it seems like most games i get downed in a few ...
Vet takes much more practice to work than other classes
And it’s extreme easy to make a gimped build by accident
steep flower
I love this meme 
gleaming viper
for what purpose does this recommend 25% vs unarmoured?
surely the plasma gun is not being used vs trash fodder
hollow ibex
for what purpose does this recommend 25% vs unarmoured?
Gunner one shot breakpoint
Dreg gunner that is
gleaming viper
would it not make sense to use carapace?
to like idk vaporise the ultra heavy ppl
hollow ibex
would it not make sense to use carapace?
Plasma actually isn’t very efficient against crushers
Better to use melee for that
Idk if taking carapace even impacts breakpoints anyways
tame lodge
Yeah 4 shots vs carapace isn't ideal
So you're better off one shotting gunners and Maniacs
narrow widget
to like idk vaporise the ultra heavy ppl
dueling sword does that
(if we're going off the meta build)
gleaming viper
I hate how every single activate weapon works
Is this just accepted as normal having to spam activate in combat
tame sundial
Aside from the relic blade yeah kinda.
gleaming viper
I dont understand why it has to be this way
gleaming viper
would it make the game unbalanced if it just didnt go away for say 1 minute
safe kiln
with a lot of weapons you only use the special attack when you need it
power sword being the exception...
gleaming viper
but like for example the chainsword
safe kiln
it's almost useless unpowered
gleaming viper
walking around with that shit turned off seems so stupid
safe kiln
you only use the special on lone elites/ogryns with the chainsword
gleaming viper
I mean id prefer if it was more of a resource you had to manage than just a spam fest
safe kiln
you'd enjoy the relic blade
gleaming viper
could give it batteries or heat management etc
yea ive used the relic blade its way nicer
dont see why that isnt standard
safe kiln
its a newer weapon
hopefully
fatshark releases a new power sword mk with updated heat or reworks the old ones
gleaming viper
I don't really get chainswords
Are they at all viable?
And why does revving it make it have a slower ttk than just a normal hit against fodder
Same for the blaze force swoed
hollow ibex
Are they at all viable?
They’re very bad except on arbi
opal ferry
ember nest
They’re very bad except on arbi
what about arbi ends up making them good
tame lodge
They’re very bad except on arbi
Hey
On Zealot it's hidden op
Put some respect on Xiiig zealot
barren girder
i'd rather they add new ones than rework the old ones
i like being in powered up state indefinitely as long as i know the combo
hate whenever my relic blade runs out on zealot LOL
hollow ibex
what about arbi ends up making them good
Arbi gets a crap ton of damage and impact so just sheer stats
hollow ibex
Hey
Tbf zealot can make almost any melee work
I still wouldn’t use chord on zealot tho
ember nest
Arbi gets a crap ton of damage and impact so just sheer stats
damn
maybe vet could get a "crit count as weakspot" type beat going
tame lodge
Tbf zealot can make almost any melee work
long dove
They’re very bad except on arbi
I enjoyed it on Vet
hollow ibex
I enjoyed it on Vet
You’re allowed to like bad weapons
long dove
Lol it didn't feel that bad but to be fair I wasn't in havoc
safe kiln
i played 13g on a martyrdom zealot it was surprisingly decent
white minnow
No it just causes enemies to miss
it also gives i-frames
and it only breaks the tracking of some enemies
white minnow
it's 8pm
nimble wadi
Exactly
sonic pecan
I hear the talent rework is coming tomorrow, right guys? Right? 🥹
dim escarp
what if youre in 3rd person
hollow ibex
it also gives i-frames
Since when
Genuinely curious if you’ve seen indication from a credible source that it gives I frames
sonic pecan
https://tenor.com/view/superman-drink-gif-16237977
safe kiln
frank basin
I still wouldn’t use chord on zealot tho <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Ds4 chord zealot; Victor Saltzpyre gameplay
white minnow
Genuinely curious if you’ve seen indication from a credible source that it gives...
since forever
and the credible source is through testing
i take the first shot to demonstrate that i don't have any funky settings that are giving me i-frames by default
with the second shot, i dodge it in place
frank basin
since forever
and the credible source is through testing
i take the first shot t...
Video is not moving???
white minnow
neat
hmm i should've demonstrated w/o invincibility to make it absolutely clear to and to eliminate a source of vagueness
hollow ibex
Not working for me but maybe its because mobile discord
white minnow
raagh
hollow ibex
Wouldn’t a better test be against a source of AOE damage?
white minnow
here's a youtube upload https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7JBOE1IhBs
hollow ibex
It looks like you’re testing against sniper
white minnow
1st Clip: Scab stalker. I don't dodge the 1st volley, so all shots hit me. I do dodge for the 2nd volley, but the i-frames don't last long enough for the entire volley, so the last shot hits me.
2nd Clip: Scab sniper. I don't dodge the 1st shot, so it hits me. I do dodge the 2nd shot, so it goes through me.
oh was the claim about general i-frames?
whatever i said so far applies to ranged only
i forget or dont know about the other stuff
hollow ibex
whatever i said so far applies to ranged only
I assume that’s what the original question is
white minnow
dodging also gives i-frames of sorts against melee, but there's basically a distance check. If you're too close, you won't dodge attacks. The distance at which you're safe to dodge also varies on a per-attack basis, but i think nowadays you can just go by the "if you're not hugging the enemy, you'll probably dodge it" rule for most attacks
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/ZsChcKG__MbdB/d1337Ds0LCI7?invite=cr-MSxvc3osMTU3ODYzOTYwLA
that's a clip from crab from 2023 jan march #psyker-class message
i used sniper as a test dummy cuz he only shoots one shot and that's easy enough to i-frame through in-place
for the other ranged enemies, i'm too lazy to record it all so test for yourself
cram yourself into a corner (e.g., the tables), and dodge into the table so that you dodge in-place
you'll notice that you won't take damage from them for a short moment during dodges (periods of inaccuracy aside)
marble moat
Anybody got any advice for getting the “survive 5 auric maelstrom missions in a row” penance that doesn’t just amount to “get good”?
marsh pivot
Infantry lasgun best mark?
safe kiln
Anybody got any advice for getting the “survive 5 auric maelstrom missions in a ...
play more maelstroms
marsh pivot
Anybody got any advice for getting the “survive 5 auric maelstrom missions in a ...
Well yeah, get good, but, get more experiennce, and wait out the really hard storms, allso there's a way to cheese it if you really wannt
Also would help to at leaast have one friend with you
marble moat
Well yeah, get good, but, get more experiennce, and wait out the really hard sto...
Not looking to cheese it. But what do you mean “wait out the really hard storms”?
safe kiln
look for some of the easier ones
marsh pivot
Look out for storm modifiers
safe kiln
aka avoid monstrous maelstroms
avoid poxburster trains
avoid extra barrels especially on gloriana
marsh pivot
Look for nurgle blessing with buffs to you as well such as less ability cd or enhanced blitz
safe kiln
some of the easier maelstroms are easier than normal auric HISTG
marble moat
So, I beat an auric maelstrom, go play other auric missions for a bit. If I die in those auric it won’t reset the auric maelstrom progress?
marsh pivot
It won't
But the storms will count towards the auric penance, the 10 in a row one
frank basin
here's a youtube upload https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7JBOE1IhBs
backdodge you dodge the sniper?
marsh pivot
Infantry lasgun best mark?
?
I really don't like the feel of it as a gun but it's the last mastery I need
Would it jjust be better to sacrifice it to max rank istead
white minnow
backdodge you dodge the sniper?
ye
you can see my movement inputs in the bottom-left corner ([shift] is my dodge key)
safe kiln
i dont play ilas enough to really say which is the best mark lol
marsh pivot
I'll go with VII I suppose, then
hollow ibex
Infantry lasgun best mark?
II usually. VII is good too
marsh pivot
Does IIb have faster firerate?
frank basin
ye
you can see my movement inputs in the bottom-left corner ([shift] is my dodge...
that's some funky code
marsh pivot
Lads does anyonne know how to enable mods
I got them al set up I think but they aren't in game
safe kiln
did you run the bat file
marsh pivot
Aye
safe kiln
did you list the mods in the mod order notepad file
or did you use that auto modloader mod
frank basin
the vortex
marsh pivot
Ah I didnn't
hollow ibex
Does IIb have faster firerate?
Yes with some insane visual recoil
safe kiln
tomorrow i'll play exec stance mmf helbore
marsh pivot
Tomorrow is a long way away, why not today?
Does ayone have a plasma gun build please?
midnight totem
You know
safe kiln
Been busy
marsh pivot
I'm just gonna max sacrifice ilas it's boring lol
midnight totem
Regular shotguns need a more meaty thump when firing
safe kiln
Should I pair this exec stance mmf build with a knife or heavy sword
Or maybe a Rashad or taxe
Anybody?
safe kiln
Blessings being bromentum headtaker/decimator?
solar valve
you can do headtaker/decimator if you want
safe kiln
What other options would there be shred?
safe kiln
Ah
barren girder
hm since helbore doesnt really need exec stance to hit breakpoints anymore, whats that ability's best use case?
marsh pivot
did you list the mods in the mod order notepad file
How do I ennter them
I jjust write the name of the mod?
Like this?
Do I need to put dmf in there too?
Or base
orchid grove
Like this?
ya just folder name each line. no base, yes dmf
marsh pivot
Dmf first?
orchid grove
i do ya
marsh pivot
Ad no need for double line separation?
marsh pivot
I'm blocked from vortex sadly
orchid grove
its free
marsh pivot
I know but my acc doesn't like vortex for some reason
orchid grove
you can make a new account then
orchid grove
np
midnight totem
I kinda want a UI mod
That removes everything on the screen, but ability readiness
You have to keep track of your ammo and blitz by mental count and vibes
Same for judging health
And buffs
frank basin
Do I need to put dmf in there too?
Don’t need put dmf on that notepad
hollow ibex
Like this?
There are mod organizers that’ll automatically do this for you
You can find them on nexus
frank basin
There are mod organizers that’ll automatically do this for you
Vortex blocked him
@marsh pivot You just need put what folder you had in mods folder and no need put dmf in it.
You can make A-Z order mod folder make easier keep track
red fox
is WS with a Bolter a thing or am i wilding
red fox
Wait what does WS affect draw time?
safe kiln
Like this?
Ye no dmf or base
marsh pivot
Ye no dmf or base
Would you know if the extended weapon customzation is still broken, by chance? I would love to have a scope on my helbore again
marsh pivot
Wait what does WS affect draw time?
No it doesn't sadly
thorn lark
You need to take the talent uptop. Or master animation cancel
turbid iron
i started playing recently, does meta matter that much in this game for the higher difficulties? can i just make a build of my own even if its not optimal and still survive?
sudden cedar
Sort of
For highest havoc probably not, unless you are very skilled and even then it would be a challenge.
open ravine
i started playing recently, does meta matter that much in this game for the high...
All the way up to and in Auric you can do your own thing mostly but for havoc it eventually becomes a sweat fest and players will possibly kick you for not using meta
turbid iron
ooohh damn, thank you for the answers
normal bay
i started playing recently, does meta matter that much in this game for the high...
Personal skill matters a lot in Dartide. Don't feel restricted to just the meta, branching out will improve those skills.
But I will say, on some classes you can make some trash builds if you don't know what you're doing lol
turbid iron
Personal skill matters a lot in Dartide. Don't feel restricted to just the meta,...
well, i love grenades and i am trying to spec into them, i dont watch any guides just trying to make a fun build for myself, i hope people wont kick me xd
normal bay
well, i love grenades and i am trying to spec into them, i dont watch any guides...
The grenade build is actually very strong
Are you aware of the bolt pistol interactions? 
turbid iron
Are you aware of the bolt pistol interactions? <:whatthefuck_heresy:104972444420...
i dont think i even tried this weapon
normal bay
i dont think i even tried this weapon
If you use the lethal proximity blessings and swap to your grenade from your bolt pistol, it increases the aoe of your grenades
turbid iron
If you use the lethal proximity blessings and swap to your grenade from your bol...
thats actually really helpful info, sounds like i am gonna be blowing up some big hoards
normal bay
thats actually really helpful info, sounds like i am gonna be blowing up some bi...
Only works meaningfully on shredders though
Kraks have too small an aoe to be worth it, outside of the penance
long dove
If you use the lethal proximity blessings and swap to your grenade from your bol...
Idk if you need the Bistol out
spare wolf
Far as i know you don't have to drawn Bolt pistol out when throwing nades in order to get the benefit from lethal prox
thorn lark
☝️
spare wolf
i started playing recently, does meta matter that much in this game for the high...
Up to auric you can do whatever you want
normal bay
spare wolf
But on high havocs off meta builds starting to fall off
Now there are exceptionally skilled individuals who doesn't even need to use all those meta stuff to perform greatly even on high havocs but they are very very rare
And speaking of high havocs and meta
Veteran is the weakest
It's not because of the weapons are weak, but the entire skill tree itself requires rework
These skill nodes are the worst of the worst imo
Sitting still for X seconds to get some dmg bonus
Basically begging to be get killed in high havocs if you do that
warm schooner
you don't have to sit still to maintain your stacks
spare wolf
You can move around for 6 secs
After the "ranged" weakspot kill
All those bonus are for ranged wpn only
Even then the bonus is meager
There's reason that nobody picks up those
warm schooner
I don't mind it on some of my high havoc builds, though I wouldn't reccomend it for everyone for sure
unless you are very comfortable dodging and shooting in melee range constantly
spare wolf
It is extremely weak compared to the weapon specialist skill nodes
It's basically "I'm only picking those up because i'm bored and used weapon specialist all day" skill nodes
You are using them because you are bored not because they are good
warm schooner
sure, but in high havoc comps you don't always need another melee
and no I wouldn't agree with that at all
spare wolf
Good
Then could you explain to me that why would you pick those up over the weapon specialist?
What it's unique benefits made you pick those up i wonder
warm schooner
if I wanted to hit certain damage breakpoints easier for weapons like helbore or other finesse weapons
and I know I can reliably maintain my ammo and headshots during fights
spare wolf
The hellbore
stiff glacier
Now there's a face i havent seen in a while
spare wolf
Doesn't even require those
To achieve all the required breakpoints
After the buff IIRC
warm schooner
I said easier
spare wolf
You only need +30% weakspot dmg skill nodes
warm schooner
some of the modifiers change things up
warm schooner
and when there is more ambient damage it's easier to one hit if you have more damage available
you sound like you know your stuff, I think you can figure out which modifiers mess with breakpoints
warm schooner
tall torrent
Even then the bonus is meager
75% finesse for ranged attack is not small
It’s just annoying to maintain
grand perch
Even then the bonus is meager
Mmf Bonus is substantial though on the right weapons
Oh hi path
spare wolf
75% finesse for ranged attack is not small
It’s just annoying to maintain
Yes but the keyword is "ranged" and "finesse"
tall torrent
Yes but the keyword is "ranged" and "finesse"
Yea, what about it
75% finesse is a pretty big chunk of extra damage
spare wolf
- It's very hard to maintain the bonus + score weakspot hits constantly
- It's only applied to ranged weapons
stiff glacier
Its also somewhat unnecessary on some weapons
spare wolf
It's not a flat damage boost it's only for weakspot hits
grand perch
And crits
stiff glacier
Like with standard lasgun and recon id like the boost
spare wolf
That already makes it pretty... uh, limited in usage
tall torrent
It's not a flat damage boost it's only for weakspot hits
Yea, I know how damage is calculated
I know it better than most people do
grand perch
Like with standard lasgun and recon id like the boost
Ilas yes. Recon no
stiff glacier
Crabwalk vet
warm schooner
or don't miss
tall torrent
Marksman’s focus needs a mechanical rework
warm schooner
yeah it's a PITA for sure
tall torrent
The 75% finesse part is mostly fine
If it applied to melee it would instantly be insane
stiff glacier
I wish the stealth with the ranged skills was more applicable
grand perch
75% finesse with knife or ds 
grand perch
We already have flat damage on ft
grand perch
Mmf should be a weak spot based keystone, that's fine. It just needs a redesign for the rest of how it works
tall torrent
75% finesse with knife or ds <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
75% finesse on power sword VI’s activated push attack might push it to 1 tap a havoc40 crusher
grand perch
BoN has tongue weak spot
spare wolf
That is indeed the biggest downside
In a game where you have to contantly move around
grand perch
It just shouldnt force you stand around like a lemon
It doesn't though
stiff glacier
It does restrain hard tho
grand perch
That's a better take
stiff glacier
But with game as fast as darktide it is essentially standing around
Id like if stealth ability had the vermintide huntsman talent to let you shoot without breaking camo
spare wolf
It's so shit that i forgot it's existence
topaz lance
The whole MMF keystone is designed in a paradoxical way.
The "sniper" keystone that really works best on full auto weapons
spare wolf
Infil and exec stance is so ass
stiff glacier
I like exec stance a lot
But stealth is so heavily geared to be just panic button/utility
spare wolf
Exec stance only good when you are playing auric with randoms
Randoms that doesn't shoot shooters and gunners
Krak is a joke
Shredder is good
Smoke is
Very niche
Generally speaking i'd say it's shit
stiff glacier
My favourite vet build is exec skeet shooting with zarona shotgun
warm schooner
smoke is shit
stiff glacier
Frags are just too good
warm schooner
frags are fine
grand perch
As someone who plays lots of exec up to havoc 40, it's fine.
warm schooner
but saying smokes have niche use is
warm schooner
higher skill floor in high havoc
spare wolf
but saying smokes have niche use is <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Apparently chinese players loves them
On high havocs
warm schooner
for good reason
spare wolf
Something i noticed
warm schooner
they're really effective as long as people understand what they offer
pretty much can trivialize content if used right
especially for high melee comps
warm schooner
it's not obvious what smoke does yes, that's one of the fundamental problems of the blitz
grand perch
If they heavy staggered ragers they'd be so godlike in h40
normal bay
MMF feels like it was intended for the early, slower version of Darktide
spare wolf
Boss stagger/horde killing etc etc
warm schooner
you should try using smokes in high havoc before being that dismissive
stiff glacier
Too bad i cant find any havoc games. Either they look im havoc lvl 1 and ignore or i play with mix of lvl 10-20s
spare wolf
The only way i can think of using is when ambushed in a bad spot + where ranged enemies somehow spotted us from a far
spare wolf
There are some part of the map that smoke nades potentially save the day
warm schooner
one of the first two man h40 completes involved a vet with plasma, smoke, and ps6
because of how it fucks up the ranged ai
all ranged ai
spare wolf
I'd still pick up shredder over smoke tho
warm schooner
including bosses, specials, and disablers
spare wolf
In the context of playing H40 with randoms
warm schooner
it's easier to use for sure
smoke requires the user has a lot better game sense
and the team has to play along with it
stiff glacier
I first hated helbore but now i got decent build for mk4 and im addicted
stiff glacier
I mostly hate the charging mechanic
Not drawspeed
But now that i can 2 tap crusher with it
I like it
I still dont touch the other 2 variants
spare wolf
The faster charging ones?
spare wolf
Ye i don't like those
stiff glacier
With mk4 i feel the charge mechanic is worth it
spare wolf
Helbore charging isn't that bad one tbh
It's like using guns with surgical blessings
Speaking of charging, what i really don't like is power sword
Honestly it would be so much better if it just uses the same heat build up mechanic that relic blade has
steep flower
Id like if stealth ability had the vermintide huntsman talent to let you shoot w...
Peak
steep flower
Too bad i cant find any havoc games. Either they look im havoc lvl 1 and ignore ...
Boi; i can help ya out then tonight
steep flower
I still dont touch the other 2 variants
Try Mk IIIa
woven prism
anyone got a fun simple build my dad can use? hes brand new
narrow widget
anyone got a fun simple build my dad can use? hes brand new
take both toughness replenishment talents at the top of the tree and path to survivalist
from there you can do whatever
if he doesn't have any dedicated anti-carapace take kraks instead of frags, but it'll leave him with one less talent point to spare
young sequoia
anyone got a fun simple build my dad can use? hes brand new
recon las gun build is probably the simplest. just point and shoot 
I'd replace the power sword here with something more forgiving to a new player like a duelling sword or devils claw
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c9abbca-ad8e-424c-8780-11409eba0097/funny-laser-pointer
past stratus
Vet melee weapon choices are really limited aren't they? Why is it that only two weapons we have can deal with armor?
Or three if you count DS
topaz lance
Or three if you count DS
tac axes are not too bad at it either.
normal bay
Ds, Power sword, chaxe, Caxe, knife, shock maul, folding shovels, tac axe...
All can deal with armour reasonably well
past stratus
I never see anyone even talking about the Shock Maul
normal bay
Non-believers
past stratus
I'll give it a try some time
normal bay
It has low cleave, which isn't ideal but armour isn't an issue
Special lets you bully bulwarks too
past stratus
There is always a caveat, I wish Vet was like Ogryn where the weapon choice is more about play style and less about choosing your poison
calm shard
The only way i can think of using is when ambushed in a bad spot + where ranged ...
https://fximgur.com/a/O1FT7vx use them to trivialize twins encounters
https://fximgur.com/a/qp1lKq2 chuck them straight at gunner swarms so you don't have to deal with their bullshit and can just run them down
It's like a better psyker dome and you get 3 of them!
spare wolf
https://fximgur.com/a/O1FT7vx use them to trivialize twins encounters
It messes up with twin bosses ranged attacks huh
calm shard
yeah Rodin literally only has ranged attacks
spare wolf
That's very solid reason to use smokes
ember nest
Honestly it would be so much better if it just uses the same heat build up mecha...
What if it had like a reverse heat mechanic
Battery mechanic?
Like, using the weapon removes charge
Blocking adds charge
The weapon passively gains charge at a decent rate
So by default it's activated but if you spam it a ton it shuts off for a little bit
tall torrent
It has low cleave, which isn't ideal but armour isn't an issue
11.1 on heavy sweep is not low cleave
past stratus
https://fximgur.com/a/qp1lKq2 chuck them straight at gunner swarms so you don't ...
never used the Plasma with WS, but it seems to work pretty good
open ravine
Like, using the weapon removes charge
Blocking adds charge
You basically talking about the arbites shield
The special uses battery but blocking charges it
It also passively charges over time
ember nest
sort of
but without a special using up like half of it at once
basically, literally the relic blade meter but backwards
spare wolf
What if it had like a reverse heat mechanic
Battery mechanic?
Honestly, at this point anything would be better than has to be charged up every swing or few swings with powercycler
ember nest
also I hope it gets a sound as satisfying as the relic blade hit sound
god
imagine
😩
spare wolf
Relic blade for vet when
past stratus
I honestly don't mind the PSword special, but I do wish the unpowered attacks were better. It would be great if you didn't need the activation to kill pox walkers and other squishy things. But then could use the activation to kill big chunky enemies
open ravine
Vet too dumb for relic blade and can only use pre set number of powered attacks
ember nest
I honestly don't mind the PSword special, but I do wish the unpowered attacks we...
I dislike anything that effectively is "busywork" that isn't like movement tech
past stratus
it's not busywork, it's a moment of vulnerability that you pay as a price for being able to cut down pretty much anything in the game
ember nest
it's busywork
you're pressing it like every 4 swings in a game where you are constantly swinging
past stratus
yeah that is exactly why I said that it shouldn't be necessary to kill squishy characters. If the activation was only necessary for chunky elites and dangerous enemies then it wouldn't feel repetitive
and the animation would be justified
ember nest
that's fair
calm shard
Vet too dumb for relic blade and can only use pre set number of powered attacks
nah vet too smart
militarum drills train them to only swing with the sword activated a few times to avoid overheating the blade
zealots don't have that training so they can overheat and fuck up their sword
open ravine
I just think power sword is boring in its current form
Like a lot of vet exclusive stuff is just too simple and don't promote much learning or engagement
calm shard
the fucking shovel
fun weapon but like a fucking shovel
that's a veteran exclusive one huh?
unreal nova
the fucking *shovel*
Flip and chunk.
calm shard
a shovel
open ravine
the fucking *shovel*
I said a lot but not all
crude wind
I actually really enjoy the shovel, but yeah it's not great at killing stuff
past stratus
imo the Power Sword doesn't feel powerful, it feels like bare minimum to survive as a Vet in higher difficulties. The activation being the only thing that works cheapens the whole existence of the weapon. The Relic Blade is cool because when you turn that shit on you feel powerful.
open ravine
The shovel which is kinda of a meme is actually vets most interesting weapon
unreal nova
Honestly, it could be given a damage buff.
crude wind
I don't run Powersword because it turns your boots to lead
Taxe is my beloved these days
calm shard
The shovel which is kinda of a meme is actually vets most interesting weapon
not more interesting than the helbore imo but yeah close second
calm shard
imo the Power Sword doesn't feel powerful, it feels like bare minimum to survive...
power sword is definitely very broken
past stratus
The Relic Blade is a real weapon without the activation, the activation is a hype little moment where you feel more powerful. The Power Sward just feels like you have to always use that shit
calm shard
the thing that makes me not like using it is that it's the only very broken weapon that vet has
unreal nova
power sword is definitely very broken
Just ridiculously clunky.
calm shard
kinda makes playing havocs on vet a bit repetitive
oh boy I wonder what loadout option I will take this time
unreal nova
Get hit mid swing, powers off.
calm shard
Power Sword is the only havoc melee I have so that's obvious
open ravine
not more interesting than the helbore imo but yeah close second
Hellbore works like it should but I like to either spray a hail of destruction or bit the enemy with a cannon blast
tame lodge
Comparatively to the Psword
calm shard
But then I get to choose between Plasma (extremely boring), Bolt Pistol (only useful for grenades), Bolter (my fucking ammo), or Helbore (the obvious best option)
crude wind
Yes, worse horde clear, better everything else. And let's not forget the ice skates
pseudo fiber
that's a veteran exclusive one huh?
Zealots have been asking for the shovel for ages too greedy karkers
calm shard
Like if the universal melees that all human classes share weren't almost universally dogshit
this wouldn't be as big of a problem
calm shard
knife and DS are good but boring
I want to use chainaxe or dclaw sword because they have interesting movesets and properties but no
bottom tier trash that fatshark never buffs enough
on the rare occasion that they remember they exist
open ravine
that's a veteran exclusive one huh?
Technically no as ogryn also got shovel
past stratus
I think the Power Sword is powerful but to me it doesn't feel powerful because that shit is more like a life boat. It doesn't make me feel like I'm stomping the game, just surviving it. But then again, it could be just skill issue on my part. I just don't feel Veteran ever feels good in melee and the Psword is just a tool that makes it less shit.
if I use minecraft pick on my Ogryn, I feel powerful and cool, if I use the Thunder Hammer on Zealot, I feel like I explode enemies
when I use the Psword, I'm surviving
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Thunder Hammer is actually one of zealots weaker melee options
unreal nova
I think the Power Sword is powerful but to me it doesn't feel powerful because t...
Plays knoife melee vet. Stares.
past stratus
Thunder Hammer does that one thing it is made to do real good
calm shard
eh not really
tame lodge
Too bad that's not good enough in this game
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they've severely nerfed its boss damage
tame lodge
(DS4 moment)
past stratus
it was just the first example that popped in my head, I think the Relic Blade is better? Whatever
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multiple times
most melees are better than thunder hammer
I would put it below heavy sword
open ravine
Most of the older weapons are too niched and need to be revamped like ogryn shield does next to no damage
past stratus
I loved the Heavy Sword when I was leveling it as Vet 😭 but then you meet a mauler and your weapon goes clink clink clink against them, it's depressing
calm shard
Most of the older weapons are too niched and need to be revamped like ogryn shie...
ogryn shield has some of the strongest heavy attacks in the game
heavy 2 has infinite cleave
heavy 1 has high cleave and ridiculously high damage
It's just that its light attacks are worthless
calm shard
I loved the Heavy Sword when I was leveling it as Vet 😭 but then you meet a ma...
damn that's a shame
anyways
past stratus
damn that's a shame
yeah I know I love the Helbore too, I'm just talking about melee atm
tame lodge
Most of the older weapons are too niched and need to be revamped like ogryn shie...
You good?
crude wind
Issue is less the weapons themselves and more the Vet's lack of melee talents. Zealot makes all these "trash" weapons work just fine. Imo only true trash weapons left in the game are the chain weapons
tame lodge
You spam H1 the whole game and win
calm shard
Issue is less the weapons themselves and more the Vet's lack of melee talents. Z...
devils claw sword
atomic void
Issue is less the weapons themselves and more the Vet's lack of melee talents. Z...
only chainsword tbh
chain axe and evis could use some work but can put in a shift
evis got a decent buff recently too