#veteran-class

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stuck tree
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coffee does the same to me

unreal nova
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Gold toughness+damage buff, you know.

kind scarab
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Caffeine also makes me go amimir

latent parcel
stuck tree
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alcohol makes me zzz or ponder for a long time

unreal nova
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No... @steep flower He's in bed atm though.

kind scarab
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Willy in bed

unreal nova
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Not sure, can only confirm autistic.

stuck tree
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autistic for transformers.. (me)

normal sparrow
kind scarab
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Prolly a bit of both

unreal nova
kind scarab
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Understandable

stuck tree
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hmm this beer or le henny

kind scarab
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Beer

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Henny tomorrow

stuck tree
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oke

unreal nova
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Also, being a woman, they just said it was monthly or mood or being hormonal mostly anyway.

kind scarab
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Sounds like bias

stuck tree
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ah

kind scarab
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Cause ain't no way caffeine makes ya sleepy unless your brain wired stupid (like mine)

unreal nova
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Well, yes, I ping pong even worse then, but still.

stuck tree
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drank coffee at 1am and still slept

unreal nova
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So... yeah.

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To be fair, any caffeine does it.

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I can fight tea though, not enough to shut brain off, but can feel it.

stuck tree
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ohh

kind scarab
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That's why I have a monster energy drink when I'm stressed

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Big can of chill juice

unreal nova
kind scarab
unreal nova
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So IDK if it's a good idea.

stuck tree
kind scarab
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My heart rate is always high anyway

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I'll be fine

unreal nova
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No, heart attack.

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It HURTS.

stuck tree
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🙂

unreal nova
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Like, a dull pain.

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Like my chest being crushed.

stuck tree
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indeed

kind scarab
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That's not supposed to happen

stuck tree
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like being stepped on by a terminator 1st class

unreal nova
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So no energy drinks.

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Unless you want me to die in my sleep.

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I guess a part of me doesn't mind.

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Don't need to deal with being bullied or mocked at ever again.

kind scarab
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I'd rather not, your gf might kill me for getting you to drink it

stuck tree
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mango loco monster..

kind scarab
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I like the lemonade flavoured monster

normal sparrow
unreal nova
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Honestly, a part of me wonders if I were gone, could she find someone better?

normal sparrow
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Also need to finish indy before gamepass expired

unreal nova
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Ans: probably yes.

stuck tree
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🔥

unreal nova
normal sparrow
unreal nova
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I should go finish the LEGO games I got. Yes, they are for kids, but they are also chill funni things so better than dealing with asshat pubs at times.

kind scarab
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Different than you, surely

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But finding someone "better" is rarely the case

unreal nova
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Although, why is BB like, more emotive than half the more humanoid chars?

unreal nova
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Well, some of them anyway.

normal sparrow
kind scarab
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People are like pizza, everyone's got their favourite combinations and while you might be missing some toppings in your opinion that doesn't mean the person who enjoys you finds you any less amazing

unreal nova
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Good people, and probably more well off so can take care of her instead of her having to take care of me.

unreal nova
kind scarab
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Just got sent the most unhinged screenshot of the day

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Nearly coughed my lung out

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Think I took some corruption damage from reading that

narrow frost
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Your welcome

stuck tree
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w

grand perch
kind scarab
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Friend just decided to send me some unhinged texts he found on the Internet

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Definitely not the kind I can share in a public discord

stuck tree
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icl pmo ts

kind scarab
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I need more of my friends to wake up so I can curse them with this

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Curse timezones being a thing

stuck tree
small perch
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did veteran get nerfed and i missed it? im sure i could take more hits the 3 in heretical difficulty from a poxwalker...(3 poxwalkers hit me and im just downed) 2 curio's with +17% toughness with both having an extra +5% toughness added

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what happend?

pseudo fiber
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No? Did you have iron will?

grand perch
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I diagnose you with gameslantern build disease

vernal trench
small perch
small perch
vernal trench
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How are u getting 3 hit and downed

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U take no damage in heresy

normal bay
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One shooter still removes 1/3rd of your toughness with one volley on heresy lol

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Though, that was with pskyer...

small perch
# vernal trench U take no damage in heresy

maybe the game was bugged? i dont know. i just know that 3 pox walkers attacked me, disrupted my mis timed heavy attack and i just got downed by teh 3 poxwalkers. or those poxwalkers where clown car characters...instead of being one enemy there are more clipping through it...had that one time with a crusher...
"i can take that crusher!" gets closer to attack it. 4 other crushers walk from the exact same spot and start attacking. "nope, seeya!" runs back to the group for safety

vernal trench
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Thats havoc 40 for u

normal bay
tame lodge
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Darktide pseudo tactical shooter mode

wanton dawn
kind scarab
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H40 is to make you feel like someone sat on your chest and is suffocating you

wanton dawn
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And now zealot and psyker know how it feels to be forced into a build path

kind scarab
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Truuuuuue

tame lodge
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Then somehow the old build still works

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Full CRIT zealot with chastise

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And soon
Gunlugger

vernal trench
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U dont need golden toughness or shield

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Its a crutch if people cant survive without it

tame lodge
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I know they meant shield as in psyker shield
But I keep thinking about Ogryns shield

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And how it's one of the few good havoc weapons for Ogryn

grand perch
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Had a really good ogryn with gay shovel on h40 the other day. Been a while since I've seen those

tame lodge
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Fold shovel is indeed like top 3 ogryn weapon

pseudo fiber
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What makes the shovel gay

kind scarab
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You can bend it

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The normal one is just always straight

trim badger
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Boring

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They need to nerf gold toughness but it surely makes havoc 40s faster and not play like CSGO

dusty sluice
trim badger
dusty sluice
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Oh ye

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Anyone got any suggestions for a xii chaxe + bpistol build? :3

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Im not too sure on bps for bpistol

faint beacon
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Or zealot

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Cause Chaxe on Veteran is not great

vernal trench
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u dont need golden toughness to just rush everything

trim badger
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On havoc 40?

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Gunners, stalkers and reapers would kinda destroy your ass if you rush

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Unless you're running knife or smt like that

sinful swallow
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Reapers are pretty disgusting, but it's mostly because of their ai and bullets not behaving properly

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Gold is definitely a safety net that you shouldn't go without unless you're really confident, on the other hand there's true duo double ogryns on something other than sycorax so it's not impossible

dusty sluice
trim badger
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Like as I said, it's not impossible to play havoc 40 without Golden toughness

dusty sluice
trim badger
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It's just that not having it slows the game down so much

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You need to bait and go back into a funnel

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Repeat that for every room, and if there's gunners you'll have to wait 5000 years for them to start coming

dusty sluice
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Guh

trim badger
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Unless you're doing a 4 zealot run with knife and fury of the faithful

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No Golden toughness means you gotta take it slowwww on havoc 40

tame lodge
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They will point blank barrage you

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Then their animation speed won't keep up with you running around

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So you get shot at 90°

unreal nova
dusty sluice
trim badger
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Fuck reapers

*Plasma full charged headshot for instakill

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:)

tall torrent
trim badger
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(not talking about havoc 40 here)

tall torrent
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Shooting twice is better still

trim badger
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Probably yeah

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But it's so much funnier

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To do the charged shot

austere pine
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does dumdum's close range damage apply to infernus stacks?

austere pine
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ah, so that's why it's preferred over headhunter

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another question, for the plasma gun, i don't like having fire team or FT>redirect fire. is there a talent somewhere i could grab which would substitute either of those?

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i feel like competitive urge sounds good but chance is really low

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here's what i AM working with, what i like working with

sinful swallow
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Needs that point for always prepared

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Also needs to swap reload with ammo for out for blood up too

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Top

wanton dawn
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On plasma always prepared is kinda qol. If you reach the thoughness regen okay, otherwise qol

sinful swallow
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It rewards building good habits (melee a lot) with never reloading (miserable on plasma)

wanton dawn
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It rewards not finding reload windows on a gun that can go minutes without reloading

hollow ibex
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You'll need to reload

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Always Prepared isn't great on plasma imo

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Better places to spend your points

dusty sluice
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whats the ideal recon las mk now?, + blessings and perks, i remeber whern it used to be a joke

hollow ibex
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VI or XII

dusty sluice
hollow ibex
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Paths take on plasma always prepared

hollow ibex
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XII has noticably worse ergonomics

dusty sluice
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so i assume the vi is the best atm?

hollow ibex
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I prefer VI but both are good

dusty sluice
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this is my oldb recon las bc it was funny

hollow ibex
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Swap out weakspot and HH and you're good

dusty sluice
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what should i swap it for?

hollow ibex
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Flak or unyielding, and dumdum

sinful swallow
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Flak/maniac, hh to dumdum, get your crit from reciprocity

hollow ibex
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Maniac would be fine too

void dragon
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Isn't the XII better to stack infernus? What makes VI better?

hollow ibex
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most people aren't using recon las to strictly stack infernus

dusty sluice
hollow ibex
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most people are holding down the trigger until the entire horde is dead

hollow ibex
dusty sluice
dusty sluice
hollow ibex
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VI's strengths are ammo efficiency (so you can drop shock trooper) and better ergonomics (XII has a really annoying slowdown on fire, slower reload and slower drawtime)

hollow ibex
void dragon
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Should give it a try, I think I only have one recon lasgun, maybe I could expand my options

hollow ibex
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yeah i swap between vi / xii depending on my mood lol

dusty sluice
hollow ibex
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the only time it'll differ is if you want to run onslaught

dusty sluice
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i remember that lmao

hollow ibex
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don't recommend it, but it's there for shits and giggles if you want to waste a lot of ammo....

dusty sluice
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real

vernal trench
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Keep it for the crits and burn

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Change out ranged weakspot tho

kind scarab
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Damn did I just have a fucking great nap

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Also, chonky spreading the good word of HH recon

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I approve

vernal trench
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Yea i run it for havocs if i was using recon

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Grandwilly papa taught me that

kind scarab
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I run it in general, then feel a bit bad about using the ammo

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Then I remember my ass is killing stuff before others, and go back to not caring

vernal trench
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What ammo

kind scarab
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The small bags

vernal trench
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Im a massive ammo goblin

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I will take the entire games ammo if i can

kind scarab
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You live up to your name

hollow ibex
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It's a massive damage boost

kind scarab
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Only reason I have infernus on my recon is that if I shoot a dog/trapper it usually staggers them during the tick and saves my ass

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If not outright finish them off

dusty sluice
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is it still work taking demo team with kraks orrr?

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if your only really using them for bulwarks

vernal trench
kind scarab
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The 5% chance to get back more?

dusty sluice
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yeh

kind scarab
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I love the 5%

vernal trench
vernal trench
kind scarab
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Everytime you go to a higher difficulty, that's more free grenades back to you

kind scarab
vernal trench
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Oh

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I mean kraks are dogshit in general but yea its worth it in auric maelstroms

dusty sluice
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i am sooo eepy

kind scarab
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(To be fair, I love smokes and kraks a lot)

vernal trench
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Theyre dogshit as soon as u even step into mid havocs

kind scarab
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I still can't bring myself to enjoy shredders, but I know damn well in how packed havoc is they'd be better

surreal gust
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Yeah kraks kinda fell out of usefulness for me

vernal trench
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They are useless in havocs aside from bosses and killing one bulwark in an entire horde maybe

surreal gust
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Because I would either just beat big enemies to death, or my teammates kill them

vernal trench
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If u throw one at a bulwark shield it wont even kill them

kind scarab
dusty sluice
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true, its a shame the tree is less easy to grab shredders noow

vernal trench
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Ull know why everyone runs it as soon as u step into 35+

austere pine
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no point in always prepared for plasma because you either have bullets to shoot and kill things to allow you to reload or you don't and wouldn't have a way to reload anyway. tactical reload is great on it, imo, because you get to reload a gun with a slow reload speed faster, meaning that, yes, you're not necessarily reloading in combat, but you're changing a 10s reload time to maybe a 7s one, or even less, if you apply the fast reload tech also

kind scarab
hollow ibex
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He didn't account for close damage scaling

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dumdum isn't just straight up better in 95 percent of situations imo

kind scarab
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Wasn't "close range" like, 30m for some reason

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Or am I thinking of close range on perks not blessings

hollow ibex
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Yes, with close damage scaling down from 12.5m

vernal trench
hollow ibex
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He thinks HH is better for ammo efficiency but dumdum is better for damage

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I suspect dumdum might actually be better for both

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But I didn't test

vernal trench
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Whats the range

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12.5m?

hollow ibex
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It also depends on how you use the gun anyways

hollow ibex
vernal trench
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In a lot of maps im not gonna be that close for gunners and stuff tho

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15m

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And im not exactly gonna be spraying down cryshers

hollow ibex
vernal trench
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Whats the damage falloff tho

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30m is good

kind scarab
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Yeah 30m was silly, which is why I was curious too

hollow ibex
vernal trench
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30% for 12.5 right

hollow ibex
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So at 20m for the example you're getting 60 percent of the effect of dumdum, so 18 percent damage boost

dusty sluice
hollow ibex
hollow ibex
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Bistol kinda annoying to build for.

vernal trench
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I like my boltgun moreKEKW_ogryn

hollow ibex
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You'll generally either want FT or WS to hit breakpoints

vernal trench
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Ur talking about aurics right

dusty sluice
dusty sluice
vernal trench
tall torrent
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100% = 4 stamina cost for blocking a sweeping attack from Scab Mauler

Combat axe (all)
100%

Tactical axe (all)
50%

Sapper shovel (all, 60% defences)
90%

Assault chainaxe (both, 60% defences)
70%

Assault chainsword (both)
100%

"Devil's claw" sword (Mk I)
75% (perfect parry has capped stamina cost of 2)

"Devil's claw" sword (Mk IV and Mk VII)
100% (perfect parry has capped stamina cost of 2)

Heavy sword (all, 60% defences)
90%

Duelling sword (Mk II and Mk IV)
50%

Duelling sword (Mk V, 60% defences)
45%

Power sword (both)
100%

Combat blade (both)
50%

Shock maul (both)
100%

Relic blade (both)
75% (activation has same block cost as regular)

Heavy eviscerator (both)
100%

Crusher (60% defences)
140%

Thunder hammer (both, 60% defences)
140%

Blaze force greatsword (both, 80% defences)
60%

Blaze force sword (all)
100%

Slab shield & battle maul
37.5% (0% in special stance)

Cleaver (all)
100%

Delver's pickaxe (all, 60% defences)
70%

Latrine shovel (all, 60% defences)
70%

Power maul (60% defences)
90%

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I cooked

dusty sluice
tall torrent
hollow ibex
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What about PS?

dusty sluice
tall torrent
dusty sluice
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should probably be pinned

hollow ibex
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Oh yeah

tall torrent
hollow ibex
tall torrent
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it does have better sprint efficiency

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0.75/s

hollow ibex
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Hmm

tall torrent
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I guess somewhere it got mixed up

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I did not test block from behind

hollow ibex
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I thought I saw a vid from telo where it was tested live

dusty sluice
hollow ibex
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Like that one hour video on PS lol

dusty sluice
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alr ty

tame lodge
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Hmmm today I'll block 2 handed chain axe sweep

kind scarab
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All the block you'll ever need

grand perch
kind scarab
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Or do you go on a blind frenzy mauling the everliving heck out of whatever is unfortunate enough to walk into your melee range?

tall torrent
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it's very easy to block a hit as you're doing Push ATK

grand perch
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Also while dodging sideways to get around efficiently in cqc

dusty sluice
kind scarab
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Thank you both for the heads up. Always wanted to do a crit taxe build, but wasn't sure what moveset cycle to go with

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So that gives me ideas.

kind scarab
faint beacon
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Cause I have a Taxe build on Vet I could toss you in like

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4 hours that I use

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Top score with it pretty frequently 🚬

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Taxe is just that goated

kind scarab
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Sounds good. I'll make myself a quick mockup of what I think should work well, and you can show me what you work with and we can compare notes to see what I may have overlooked.

tall torrent
plucky linden
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Any recommendations on what to do next? PSword?

tropic halo
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Thats really their only purpose KEKW_ogryn

tropic halo
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Though Kraks were so good to use with the Ogryn event lol

tame lodge
plucky linden
dusty sluice
tall torrent
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braced autogun doesn't scale well with crits tho

tropic halo
tall torrent
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recon lasgun generally wants shock trooper

dusty sluice
dusty sluice
tropic halo
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the Psword be able to melt crushers with two or three swings is always good to use

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Especially the push stab attack

tame lodge
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Can't 7-8 powered swings anymore

plucky linden
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which PSword mark is better for leveling?

tropic halo
tame lodge
hollow ibex
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Slightly KEKW_ogryn

kind scarab
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Or Agile + Bromentum

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I just really like infinite dodges

tall torrent
kind scarab
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i was worried you'd say that, which is why I gave my justification

tall torrent
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You’re looking at a melee weapon that’s missing 2 blessing slots to be good and then u go ahead to put agile on it to further lower dps

kind scarab
hollow ibex
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Agile is not worth. Fixed that for you.

kind scarab
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I usually only stick it on my DS cause it doesn't really need anything to be good

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So infinite dodges make sense

hollow ibex
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Honestly I just avoid it because it'll fuck up my muscle memory

kind scarab
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I'm pretty adaptable, since I've played VT2 for an ungodly amount of time

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What'dya both suggest for perks then on the taxe?

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I really like how slaughter spree effectively means you'll always be critting, but that seems like a weird perk to grab unless I'm already oneshotting stuff, which means it'd be a dead perk

tame lodge
kind scarab
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Deci + Bro? Deci + Headtaker?

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All damage all the time?

tall torrent
vernal trench
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Still

kind scarab
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BM + HT also checks out

hollow ibex
vernal trench
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Lmfao

tame lodge
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Hey @tall torrent
Do you know if BM bypasses the cap on Taxe?

kind scarab
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I need to farm mastery now, dammit

tall torrent
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BM would deplete before CDDC applies

vernal trench
gaunt anchor
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I need to level tac axe once I am done with levelling chainsword

wild vortex
tame lodge
kind scarab
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Because I want to do it with randoms first

vernal trench
tame lodge
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Yeah I was just curious and we were on Taxe topic so might as well ask

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Thx

vernal trench
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Papa will teach u game tips and shit

wild vortex
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Even better if someone is teaching

vernal trench
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Ill ask papa

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I need to unrust a bit anyway for tmr

wild vortex
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I'm just making formula for the baby, will be done in like 10

vernal trench
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Na we cant rn anyway

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Will have to be later

wild vortex
vernal trench
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Papa is in strike party 5 rn

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U can ask him

kind scarab
vernal trench
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Hell yea

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Havoc 40 to auric maelstrom is like what auric maelstrom is to heresy

kind scarab
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I will totally survive that no problems

unreal nova
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You totally will die lots even with 3 bubbles on book zealot the first time round.

kind scarab
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Fun fact: That's how I learned how to swim.

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My first swimming instructor tossed my ass into the deep end of the pool, then held my head under the water while I ran out of breath

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(He didn't last long as my swimming instructor, but I learned a valuable lesson that day)

grand perch
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"swimming instructors are cunts"

unreal nova
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I know.

kind scarab
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More like "Go for the balls in an emergency"

unreal nova
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I skipped to 40 after 26...

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Because psyker mains decided it was funni.

hollow ibex
kind scarab
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My dads dad was worse, tbh

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He dragged him out to the middle of a lake, tossed him out the boat and was like "Aight, swim back or skill issue"

unreal nova
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Then they decided to go srs. And then I had havoc forged somehow.

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Best part, I really only played heresy back then.

trim badger
unreal nova
trim badger
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Just like you I joined a 40 as 27 (which I could simply not get out)

unreal nova
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I literally played only heresy then.

trim badger
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And did fine

trim badger
unreal nova
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Just ping where I need to be and I'll go there. I'll panic book as we go.

wild vortex
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I've done h25 but it's been hard to push beyond that because I keep getting refused on ogryn

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and I'm mid at other classes

kind scarab
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Teammate in maelstrom blew up two poxbursters on my ass, yeeting me to the shadow realm

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After the ogryns triggered a demonhost

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We haven't lost yet

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But damn

trim badger
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In reality as Zealot you should mostly clear horde to get crits and het book faster

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So you can spam book more

unreal nova
trim badger
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Veteran should take care of specialists to get more shout

Psyker just needs to survive

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And everyone should kill elites ofc

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That's how you ez havoc

unreal nova
trim badger
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I said eventually

unreal nova
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Plus, more crits gud for them.

trim badger
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I saw someone suggesting on the steam forums Flamer should be added to vet

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How broken would that be...

surreal gust
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That would be as catastrophic as dueling sword

unreal nova
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Inf ammo flamer, but no way to animation cancel.

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So 25% swap speed only.

thorn lark
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give flammer to ogryn

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it's to cook sah

trim badger
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Only downside of flamer on vet is that he would suck at killing special but who cares

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We love inf flamethrower!!!

tall torrent
tame lodge
tall torrent
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U completely lose the ability to take out long range enemies and the 1 ability that draws it quickly also has basically no bonus for it lol

tame lodge
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Oh yeah no throwing knives

trim badger
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Fuck it add flamethrower to vet then

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I have been convinced

atomic void
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it should be on vet tbh

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imperial guards user flamers

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they only gave it to zealot cause fire theme

tame lodge
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Oooh I know

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You could run infiltrate 2 charges

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Then proc the red node about close damage twice

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And that's about it

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Anoint in Blood at home

unreal nova
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You sound like someone telling me to go infiltrate to ensure my revolver 1 shots in melee range for WS.

stiff glacier
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Infiltrate with me antax axe

unreal nova
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And yes, that's the last vet penance.

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I somehow got the 20 sec x5 one done.

stiff glacier
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Infiltrate then autogun go brrrr

tame lodge
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I'd tell you to go infiltrate 2x to proc red node for Kraking bosses and 30% extra damage

unreal nova
tame lodge
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Like it's not that hard to meet breakpoints with the Za

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Or so I've been told

unreal nova
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It's not hard, if you kill 10, anything but ogryns and maulers is a boom hedshot.

stiff glacier
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I have actively avoided running zarona for a while

tame lodge
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33 + 20 + 25 and you get 78% CRIT chance

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Also get Deadshot

stiff glacier
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Trying braced autoguns for now

tame lodge
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That's another 25

unreal nova
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Weapon specialist.

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I have a guaranteed boom.

tame lodge
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So you just ads for a second and boom 100 CRIT

sinful swallow
#

I mean ws is 33 per stack just hit 3 things then shoot the elite

tame lodge
#

No need for all those stacks

sinful swallow
#

3 is a swing with Rashad

tame lodge
#

You can also kill with your melee for penance

sinful swallow
#

(and, it buffs ranged shots equal to stacks. I use graia vauto with ws to magdump BoN or tap at plogryns for boss damage)

unreal nova
#

I basically been doing it with knoife facestabs, lul.

tame lodge
#

Good good

unreal nova
#

Then Zealot one will be hell.

#

In my books. Kill 40 stunned enemies... Long range stun on sniper... LONER.

kind scarab
#

I didn't kill everything on the map, but I damn well managed to keep people alive with stealth and doing objectives

patent prairie
#

For the Keystone Marksmen Focus which modifications are good?

kind scarab
tame lodge
#

Long Range is for more damage
Camo is for more consistency
Tunnel Vision for funny toughness replenishment

grand perch
#

also stamina, for when youre using deadshot

patent prairie
#

A passive, Opening Salvo. Yay or nay?

#

20% ammo = 10% Crit chance

tall torrent
#

You only consider taking it if you go exe stance

sinful swallow
#

Mostly meme, less time spent on surgical for shocktrooper

tall torrent
#

And your gun wants crit chance

patent prairie
#

gotcha gonna swap that for something else then cheers again

vernal trench
#

@wild vortex we r playing now

wild vortex
#

I am in bed Sitgryn

#

I hope y'all enjoy, maybe I am able to catch you later

kind scarab
#

Get outta bed

#

Them's heretics to be killed

patent prairie
#

Trying something new, thoughts?

vernal trench
#

@neon current we got clandestine

patent prairie
#

hm?

tame lodge
#

So a 25% against flak/maniac is often more useful

patent prairie
tame lodge
#

Flak + Maniacs/Unarmored

faint beacon
#

Las weapons have high maniac damage already

#

So I tend to do Un for ILAGs

#

Cause

#

Total Tox Bomber Death

#

I hate them

patent prairie
#

Agreed

#

Then what about its blessings? Or should I also share my talent tree for that?

faint beacon
#

That and Dreg Shot/Gunners also get effected

#

And Scab Bomber Headshots

faint beacon
patent prairie
desert viper
#

veterans

#

what is the general impression of chainaxe on vet

faint beacon
faint beacon
tame lodge
#

It's pretty much anti armor

desert viper
#

what about shovels?

#

they any noteworthy?

tame lodge
#

Standard is pretty good at staggering stuff

#

3 is anti armor but kinda sucks at every else

#

7 is a mix of anti armor while being decent at other stuff

kind scarab
#

Shovels are based

#

Grab rending blessing, then smack smack smack

faint beacon
#

They’re again mediocre

#

But they’re the best mediocre one veteran has

#

Like if Rashad Didnt exist or power sword

#

Shovel and Heavy sword would be top melee picks

wanton dawn
faint beacon
#

I’d assume this is common knowledge those are busted

#

Hence I never bring them up lmao

unreal nova
#

Knoife requires you to be basically in enemies' faces though.

tall torrent
faint beacon
#

They both give insane mobility

unreal nova
tall torrent
#

Knife high risk?

#

No way

unreal nova
#

Compared to DS, it is.

tame lodge
#

You're at risk of not clearing hordes on a decent time

unreal nova
#

Or drop 'nades.

grand perch
#

inb4 terror of the tech adepts

vernal trench
kind scarab
#

Chonky's big brain broke the headphones

vernal trench
#

Cant hear shit

kind scarab
#

Duct tape it to your head

#

Jokes aside, superglue and a sliver of sheet metal as an internal brace are probably your best bet

#

Assuming the wiring is alright

vernal trench
#

Yea im gonna duct tape it until i get a new one lmfao

#

I been using this for 3 years

vernal trench
#

Just the plastic snapped off

#

Had to play a whole game with this shit lmao

kind scarab
#

Could have been worse, I had to resolder the wiring in my headphones and replace a cable

vernal trench
#

Fuck dude

#

Id just get a new headset at that point

#

I prolly will get another new headset

#

Same mdoel but new

kind scarab
#

Nah, I'm stubborn, I knew I could fix it (and these were damn well expensive and work like a charm)

#

15$ repair vs 500$ headphones I can't get again

unreal nova
#

I miss my PC350 SE.

#

Also, you missed awful penance builds in aurics. @vernal trench

vernal trench
unreal nova
vernal trench
#

No way

#

We had tac axe guy run that

#

But no focus target

unreal nova
#

PENANCE HUNTING.

vernal trench
#

Oh

#

Bru

#

Na we were just playing

unreal nova
#

But yeah.

vernal trench
#

No golden toughness game tho cuz shit zealot died and rage quit

#

No bubble either

desert viper
unreal nova
#

Smoke.

vernal trench
#

Smoke

grand perch
#

mah smokes are the best son

unreal nova
#

Used it to pick ppl up, lmao.

#

Chuck two, one under person needing a pick up, one at the shooting things.

tame lodge
#

We do be like

unreal nova
#

Bonus.

#

TWINNED SMOKES.

#

XD

#

Does it do anything, I dunno.

grand perch
#

bit bigger area

unreal nova
#

Probs not worth it, but funni.

faint beacon
#

Twinned smokes are a statement

#

I’m actively throwing

#

And I want you to know this

unreal nova
#

It's a 4 stack, so we went in knowing I'm penance hunting build.

#

With weird pickups.

#

Also, Demo team with smokes.

#

Yes.

tame lodge
#

Twin smokes is a power move

unreal nova
#

30 sec smokes EVERYWHERE.

#

If I play blind, EVERYONE plays blind.

patent prairie
# kind scarab

As a Xbox player, how’d you get the stats? I mashed every button on the score board and couldn’t get it

kind scarab
#

For PC

#

Because fatshark decided not having useful fucking stats was a gameplay mechanic

#

so players had to fix it themselves

grand perch
#

worst superhero

gaunt anchor
#

I love shovels

#

Mk1 has been so much fun

patent prairie
drifting onyx
# kind scarab Mods

So can we as gamepass players install these mods or are these a steam thing only

gaunt anchor
#

steam only

drifting onyx
#

big sad

gaunt anchor
#

well PC only

drifting onyx
#

Yeah i have it on pc gamepass

#

I guess i will have to get it on steam to mod it

#

np thanks tho

kind scarab
#

so I'd say try following the modding guide and see if it works

drifting onyx
#

O.o

#

damn lemme try then

kind scarab
#

My game crashed in my havoc match

#

So I lost the scoreboard stats

#

First havoc done tho

#

havoc 16

vernal trench
patent prairie
vernal trench
wanton dawn
#

3 more to get helmet

#

Dont wanna farm low lvl ones though

little path
#

Why is collateral he dump stat on the bolt pistol?

unreal nova
#

Either way, it barely matters.

vernal trench
dusty sluice
# tall torrent technically yea?

my bad for the later ping but, how should i build las stuff, (recon las, laspistol)? is it just shock tooper thats preferred orrr?

dusty sluice
#

psword/axe ig?

#

how much does that end up changing what talents you take?

tall torrent
#

Not much

dusty sluice
#

okiii

#

howcome people take one motion and out for blood now, instead of close order drill and confirmed kill?

unreal nova
hollow ibex
#

But that's what I do

#

Obviously frags is a big thing

faint beacon
hollow ibex
#

OM and O4B synergize very well with frags

#

The 5 percent movement speed node is sweet

#

And then I'm always running strong horde clear melees

#

So O4B is super good with those

faint beacon
#

you can see the value from it

#

that and obviously Blitz's giving Toughness

hollow ibex
faint beacon
#

You'd be surprised how much it can help in a pinch

hollow ibex
#

If I'm in a pinch I'll swing my Rashad or PS and restore 40% toughness from nearby poxwalkers KEKW_ogryn

faint beacon
#

those moments when shooters are raining hell upon you and there isn't any chaffe nearby to leech off of

#

especially right after you use VOC and its down

unreal nova
#

'nades.

gritty mural
#

we're getting a new ranged veteran weapon called graia munitorum surplus grenade container and it's a 1/40 weapon where you can block bullets with the container as your right click and throw shredder frag grenades as your left click

#

the voices told me this so it's totally getting added guys

trim badger
#

what would be the point of it penetrating many enemies

trim badger
#

that as well ig

calm shard
#

bolt pistol has bad penetration

#

wdyd

hollow ibex
calm shard
#

also collateral doesn't affect the penetration iirc

#

it's blast radius, stagger, and suppression

#

oh wait no just stagger and suppression

faint beacon
#

Gotten a shit ton of use off it when those scenarios pop up just cause im using a gun that drops shooters in literally one click

#

so I instantly get enough toughness to gate enough shooting before I can push into a melee horde

#

that or till VOC is up

trim badger
hollow ibex
faint beacon
#

CK is good you just get more usage out of O4B

#

hence I've been using it a lot more in my builds

calm shard
#

confirmed kill MID

#

close order drill MID

#

out for blood STRONG

faint beacon
#

Confirmed Kill is NOT

#

Mid

#

Its Good

#

Exhilarating is decent
CK is good
and O4B is just fucking insane

kind scarab
#

Just had a nice lovely hot shower, destressed

#

Moisturised

#

In my lane

#

Ready to commit heinous acts of violence against heretics

little path
#

It's not heinous if it's against heretics

#

it's not violence if it's against heretics

#

It is charitable

#

and it is mercy

#

can I get an amen

shadow dagger
#

@narrow frost i crashed lmao

kind scarab
#

Just gotta find my beanie and get a drink

shadow dagger
#

flamer kick range got me fucked up

hollow ibex
#

The kicks can be surprisingly annoying lol

shadow dagger
#

i want to like heavy sword so much but this upward sweep is genuinely infuriating to use sometimes

austere mica
#

Solution: Mk9

shadow dagger
#

problem: strikedown starter

tame lodge
#

Light first

#

Ez

#

💯🔥💪

hollow ibex
#

And strike down starter is great imo

gilded wraith
#

Someone educate me, on recons why is dum dum the pick over deathspitter for buffing infernus? Ease of building stacks?

shadow dagger
#

but my rager sweep oneshots :(((

#

sadge

tame lodge
#

Indeed

gilded wraith
# hollow ibex Yeah

Thank you, my build is so strength starved I was really craving deathspitter.

gaunt anchor
#

I love the assault chainsword man

#

this thing is funny

steep pier
#

finally trying a new vet build other then helbore and shovel im running the revolver the hold the hammer and a dagger its decent

kind scarab
#

Great choices

#

Cowboy revolver setup right will just entirely remove bosses

steep pier
#

i actually ran by a group of snipers

#

3 of em got 3 headshots and kept running because everyone but me was dead

#

i was running from congaline of armor

#

monsties are much easier to fight then a line of crushers

kind scarab
#

Regular revolver makes short work of cara if you go heavy into damage stuff

#

Love me my oneshot crusher build

steep pier
#

it was like 9 of em chasing me and they were all dead

unreal nova
kind scarab
#

At that point, your job is to GTFO or murber

steep pier
#

yes exactly its why i was running to get the revives

kind scarab
#

You'll get to the point where you can devastate them with either weapon

#

All a matter of practice

steep pier
#

lol but i got 245 tougness without buffs

#

i can take one overhead and lose like 14 health

kind scarab
#

I have no reference for toughness, far as I'm concerned I either have my bar full or I'm in danger

steep pier
#

fair enough but yes if i block i can take 1 overhead and only lose 14 health

#

the followup will kill me though

kind scarab
#

You're lucky you can survive the overheads

#

Most of my builds will just eat shit if I leave myself in that position

steep pier
#

thats not the issue i can fight crushers with the knife i refuse to do so when im the only one alive

#

i also spawned into a lobby today 2 people dead last one went down and i had to speed run through the map using the knife to pick people up which was fun

kind scarab
#

Dueling sword (which is currently busted imho) will effectively let you solo cara even if everyone is dead

#

And comfortably

steep pier
#

its boring so no

kind scarab
#

Sometimes boring is necessary to get comfy with enemy patterns

#

Then you move onto the more fun stuff

steep pier
#

i already got the a.s.s title

#

im used to the patterns

kind scarab
#

You get that ASS properly, or by cheesing it?

steep pier
#

just the only build i regularly use on vet is helbore and shovel

#

i got it by repeated attempts as ogryn

kind scarab
#

Okay that makes more sense

steep pier
#

yes took me like 3 weeks of playing as ogryn only

#

aurics are really fun especially maelstroms with the extra grenade modifier so i get 3 of the big frag nades

kind scarab
#

Nades are always a blessing

steep pier
#

but i was using the basically mace as ogryn for stun lockin things

#

made it much easier

kind scarab
#

The crusher?

steep pier
#

no the slap mace thing

kind scarab
#

Way too many people sleep on that on oggy and zealot

unreal nova
#

Pubs, I guess.

steep pier
#

i use crusher on zealot

#

infinite cleave with it

unreal nova
#

I always found it funny I got A.S.S. in my first 5 auric maels.

steep pier
#

a couple of the runs were with a youtuber

kind scarab
#

Gotta love being able to smash the ground and everyone in the room suffers

steep pier
#

so not full on pubs

kind scarab
#

I could probably get myself the ASS title tomorrow

steep pier
#

nicee

#

the harder one people say is the auric exemplar the 10 runs

hybrid plover
#

What about getting ASS by mistake?

steep pier
#

and i want to eventually get the golden medal

kind scarab
#

This newest build I'm running makes it hella easier to get objectives done, so I can just focus on those and saving people while everyone else gremlins up the ammo and kills

steep pier
#

but the main factor how i got a.s.s is my like 5k hours in vermintide 2

unreal nova
steep pier
#

not them

kind scarab
#

VT2 gremlin like me

steep pier
#

kensei

#

but yes citadel of eternity on cataclysm is pure ptsd

unreal nova
#

Yes, but I mean on my end.

kind scarab
#

I could never get into cata, cause my friends could already barely handle playing legend

unreal nova
#

Is like, you go from 9 ping heresy to 270 ping auric maels.

steep pier
#

the first attempt where i got to 4 i died from a plague ogryn busting down the wall and knocking me across the room into a dh and i died

unreal nova
#

Just don't die, they say.

steep pier
#

nothing i could about that

kind scarab
#

three times in the same session

unreal nova
#

Plays vet for A.S.S.

steep pier
#

i got blown away by a barrel away from a crusher overhead i couldn't dodge and survived

unreal nova
#

Very smort idea.

steep pier
#

so the barrel helped me out in that situation

kind scarab
#

I could probably get ASS as vet

steep pier
#

nice

kind scarab
#

If it werent' 2am I'd try

#

am getting heck'n sleepy

steep pier
#

try getting the medal as vet the nobody goes down

kind scarab
#

Making sure nobody goes down as vet will not be easy

steep pier
#

exactly the point

kind scarab
#

Unless I intentionally refuse to play with randoms

unreal nova
steep pier
#

or you could duo it

kind scarab
#

or go my revolver glass cannon build

#

Can't kill my team if I kill them first

hybrid plover
#

Just kill so many specialists that your team virtually has golden toughness at all times

steep pier
#

as i always say dead bodies can't kill you when i play vt2

kind scarab
#

Damn straight they can't

steep pier
#

and thats why i use hunstman or shade

kind scarab
unreal nova
#

Party was a psyker mains stack so...

kind scarab
#

I usually go saltz masochist with flail + brace

#

Nothing like living on the edge of my final breath

steep pier
#

doc do you know the exploit to infiently spawn ammo from thin air with repeater as kruber and you stack up a few hundred

#

i don't need pick ups i can make my own ammo

kind scarab
#

Nope, ain't never tried. I'mma assume you mean as huntsman since it has the +1 ammo innately and with the HS mod on the gun?

steep pier
#

that with the ability to not use ammo

#

you can stock up a few hundred and go crazy

kind scarab
#

makes sense

#

But at that point I could just run minigun dwarf for even more dakka

#

I still can't believe they made him that busted

steep pier
#

yes but that has to be recharged where i can just keep shooting as kruber

unreal nova
#

But but but, the classic inf ammo swiftbow.

kind scarab
#

Swiftbow old news

#

Moonbow and Jav are the new cool kids

steep pier
#

the only character in vt2 that i don't have purity skin is bounty hunter

unreal nova
kind scarab
#

Yeeeeeeee

steep pier
#

doc have you tried necormancer sienna

#

necromancer sienna like her sister

kind scarab
#

I did when she came out, and immediately came to the conclusion those bastards stole psykers from here and tried reskinning it in VT2 and it sucks

steep pier
#

im actually really solid with necro sienna

kind scarab
#

Abusing your minions for spell juice?

unreal nova
steep pier
#

lol also having them hold the line while i abuse monsters

kind scarab
steep pier
#

in certan 40k games psykers can summon tornados and shit like that

kind scarab
#

The scythe also felt surprisingly underwhelming

steep pier
#

not a tradiontal summon but still a summon

kind scarab
#

Felt more like krubers halberd at best, pickaxe contender at worst

steep pier
#

pickaxe has some insane monster dmg

#

on slayer

kind scarab
#

Pickaxe is one of my favourite two things on dwarf to kill super armor with

steep pier
#

facts

unreal nova
kind scarab
#

(torpedo naturally is the other, cause infinite BOOLIT)

steep pier
#

also i absolutely loving throwin axes

kind scarab
#

Throwing axes are peak

steep pier
#

they are difficult to learn but very useful

kind scarab
#

Nothing like arching one perfectly to save a teammate from being kidnapped

#

just

fair river
#

Crazy ass announcement

steep pier
#

i already know

unreal nova
#

Isn't that like throwing knoifes?

steep pier
#

the axes can be picked back up though

kind scarab
unreal nova
#

They are already making a 3?

steep pier
#

lol

kind scarab
#

And you can build them so that if you get a headshot, they just pop back into your pocket

fair river
#

Fastest sequel announcement ever lol

kind scarab
#

So you can technically go the whole damn game just throwing axes if you're based enough

shadow dagger
#

oh my god 😭

steep pier
#

exactly

shadow dagger
#

this psyker is smiting individual enemies at the start of a civi

#

i need to get the fuck out of here

steep pier
#

also some slayers at the end of the map like to use their ability to jump off the map

shadow dagger
#

oooh one singular crusher scaryyyy

unreal nova
steep pier
#

doc do you know the dash skip on the dwarf map to jump across the gap to the very end where it triggers the spawns for every special enemy on the map to rush towards you

#

its really funny to watch

#

its a stampede of gunner rats assasins stranglers the gas guys etc all of em together coming towards you

kind scarab
#

(then I moved to here for a while)

steep pier
#

but yes that skip kills you

kind scarab
#

I'd almost exclusively use witch for skips tho. Cemetary map onto the roofs, to the exit of the map was hilarious while I could do it.

#

They probably patched it out at this point

steep pier
#

but yes this skip you can't leave the map because the objective is unfinished and you get like a hundred things running in to kill ya

kind scarab
#

Sounds like the perfect excuse for a last stand

steep pier
#

yes lol its fun to watch ive yet to see someone survive it though

kind scarab
#

I probably wouldn't, given the class ya gotta use to make it

#

I'm too much of a saltz main to be reasonable with my health pool

#

(unchained witch is my close second)

steep pier
#

its only doable as a sienna class

#

the teleport dash basically

kind scarab
#

Yeah, I couldn't survive as that.

steep pier
#

exactly why

kind scarab
#

It's my "speedrun" character, at best.

steep pier
#

you need the double dash to make the gap

kind scarab
#

You're making me consider updating the game

#

But the "chaos wastes" for darktide is in less than 2 weeks

steep pier
#

i play it on xbox sadly

#

give us special cosmetics for that in darktide like we got in vt2

kind scarab
#

Man I wish

#

Need me some glowing rune-etched knoifes and shovels

steep pier
#

facts

kind scarab
#

Aight, it's 2:30. Even if it's the weekend, I should get my catnap in.

#

Gotta stuff to do tomorrow, which I should prolly be awake for.

kind scarab
#

Do me proud and make crushers regret running into you

vernal trench
#

Jk he aint stupid

#

But fuck smite

steep flower
#

SPOILERS; I will smite KEKW_ogryn

stuck tree
#

fish

stuck tree
#

friday today

#

more alcohol

hushed sparrow
#

There's a meme in 40k about the Elysians being french. But no one can tell me anything past them having Le' space Famas.

jaunty sphinx
#

That's about it