#veteran-class
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Gold toughness+damage buff, you know.
Caffeine also makes me go amimir
Sounds scary
alcohol makes me zzz or ponder for a long time
No... @steep flower He's in bed atm though.
Willy in bed
Not sure, can only confirm autistic.
autistic for transformers.. (me)
He still havent come back from buying milk 
Prolly a bit of both
Maybe. Too ex to get a confirmation for anything else.
hmm this beer or le henny
oke
Also, being a woman, they just said it was monthly or mood or being hormonal mostly anyway.
Sounds like bias
ah
Cause ain't no way caffeine makes ya sleepy unless your brain wired stupid (like mine)
Well, yes, I ping pong even worse then, but still.
drank coffee at 1am and still slept
I fall asleep in public drinking Starbucks when ppl offer to get me it.
So... yeah.
To be fair, any caffeine does it.
I can fight tea though, not enough to shut brain off, but can feel it.
ohh
Well, he said he wanted to play more... I said Aurics sure. I just only wanna do 1 H40 win a week.

That's a mix of eepy but also heart attack feel.
So IDK if it's a good idea.
i just had one
🙂
indeed
That's not supposed to happen
like being stepped on by a terminator 1st class
So no energy drinks.
Unless you want me to die in my sleep.
I guess a part of me doesn't mind.
Don't need to deal with being bullied or mocked at ever again.
mango loco monster..
I like the lemonade flavoured monster
Im too lazy to make a group so i just got one h40 a week 
Honestly, a part of me wonders if I were gone, could she find someone better?
Also need to finish indy before gamepass expired
Ans: probably yes.
🔥
Then why not?
Work, touching grass, time constrains 
I should go finish the LEGO games I got. Yes, they are for kids, but they are also chill funni things so better than dealing with asshat pubs at times.
Why touch grass?
LEGOO
Realistically? Unless you're a piece of trash human, no.
Different than you, surely
But finding someone "better" is rarely the case
Although, why is BB like, more emotive than half the more humanoid chars?
Who knows. But what I know is, there is better. Cos I know my rivals.
Well, some of them anyway.
Mandatory family related stuff 
People are like pizza, everyone's got their favourite combinations and while you might be missing some toppings in your opinion that doesn't mean the person who enjoys you finds you any less amazing

Good people, and probably more well off so can take care of her instead of her having to take care of me.
Ah, those. Like how I'll be busy tomorrow for the most part.
Just got sent the most unhinged screenshot of the day
Nearly coughed my lung out

Think I took some corruption damage from reading that
Your welcome
w
It wasn't from you
Friend just decided to send me some unhinged texts he found on the Internet
Definitely not the kind I can share in a public discord
icl pmo ts

I need more of my friends to wake up so I can curse them with this

Curse timezones being a thing
indeed
did veteran get nerfed and i missed it? im sure i could take more hits the 3 in heretical difficulty from a poxwalker...(3 poxwalkers hit me and im just downed) 2 curio's with +17% toughness with both having an extra +5% toughness added
what happend?
No? Did you have iron will?
I diagnose you with gameslantern build disease
Bro is experiencing havoc 40 on heresy
No nerfs
no, just regular heretic difficulty, the one below Damnation, just to chill and play
weird
One shooter still removes 1/3rd of your toughness with one volley on heresy lol
Though, that was with pskyer...
maybe the game was bugged? i dont know. i just know that 3 pox walkers attacked me, disrupted my mis timed heavy attack and i just got downed by teh 3 poxwalkers. or those poxwalkers where clown car characters...instead of being one enemy there are more clipping through it...had that one time with a crusher...
"i can take that crusher!" gets closer to attack it. 4 other crushers walk from the exact same spot and start attacking. "nope, seeya!" runs back to the group for safety
Imagine that but one can straight up down u
Thats havoc 40 for u
Very healthy design, with everyone hiding behind shields and gold toughness lol
Darktide pseudo tactical shooter mode
H40 isnt supposed to be fair 
H40 is to make you feel like someone sat on your chest and is suffocating you
And now zealot and psyker know how it feels to be forced into a build path
Truuuuuue
Then somehow the old build still works

Full CRIT zealot with chastise

And soon
Gunlugger

Thats just what noobs do
U dont need golden toughness or shield
Its a crutch if people cant survive without it
I know they meant shield as in psyker shield
But I keep thinking about Ogryns shield
And how it's one of the few good havoc weapons for Ogryn
Had a really good ogryn with gay shovel on h40 the other day. Been a while since I've seen those
Fold shovel is indeed like top 3 ogryn weapon
What makes the shovel gay

You can bend it
The normal one is just always straight
Me @ crushers
Not wrong but no Golden toughness makes you be forced to play extremely slow for the most part and bleh
Boring
They need to nerf gold toughness but it surely makes havoc 40s faster and not play like CSGO
That’s from zealot relic right?
And Voice of Command
Oh ye
Anyone got any suggestions for a xii chaxe + bpistol build? :3
Im not too sure on bps for bpistol
For veteran?
Or zealot
Cause Chaxe on Veteran is not great
not at all
u dont need golden toughness to just rush everything
On havoc 40?
Gunners, stalkers and reapers would kinda destroy your ass if you rush
Unless you're running knife or smt like that
Reapers are pretty disgusting, but it's mostly because of their ai and bullets not behaving properly
Gold is definitely a safety net that you shouldn't go without unless you're really confident, on the other hand there's true duo double ogryns on something other than sycorax so it's not impossible
Vet
Like as I said, it's not impossible to play havoc 40 without Golden toughness
Its fun :3
It's just that not having it slows the game down so much
You need to bait and go back into a funnel
Repeat that for every room, and if there's gunners you'll have to wait 5000 years for them to start coming
Guh
Unless you're doing a 4 zealot run with knife and fury of the faithful
No Golden toughness means you gotta take it slowwww on havoc 40
If you're charging Reapers, make sure you're suppressing or staggering them
They will point blank barrage you
Then their animation speed won't keep up with you running around
So you get shot at 90°
You mean shot at out of their butts.
i love zarona for gunners etc
Doesn’t insta kill
Oh yeah but I run WS and normally get a garanteed crit on the fat fucks
(not talking about havoc 40 here)
Shooting twice is better still
does dumdum's close range damage apply to infernus stacks?
Yes
ah, so that's why it's preferred over headhunter
another question, for the plasma gun, i don't like having fire team or FT>redirect fire. is there a talent somewhere i could grab which would substitute either of those?
i feel like competitive urge sounds good but chance is really low
here's what i AM working with, what i like working with
Demo team ?
Needs that point for always prepared
Also needs to swap reload with ammo for out for blood up too
Top
On plasma always prepared is kinda qol. If you reach the thoughness regen okay, otherwise qol
It rewards building good habits (melee a lot) with never reloading (miserable on plasma)
It rewards not finding reload windows on a gun that can go minutes without reloading
You'll need to reload
Always Prepared isn't great on plasma imo
Better places to spend your points
whats the ideal recon las mk now?, + blessings and perks, i remeber whern it used to be a joke
VI or XII
whats the difference?
Paths take on plasma always prepared
XII for the brrrrrt memes, VI for ammo efficiency and sweating
XII has noticably worse ergonomics
so i assume the vi is the best atm?
I prefer VI but both are good
this is my oldb recon las bc it was funny
Swap out weakspot and HH and you're good
what should i swap it for?
Flak or unyielding, and dumdum
Flak/maniac, hh to dumdum, get your crit from reciprocity
Maniac would be fine too
Isn't the XII better to stack infernus? What makes VI better?
most people aren't using recon las to strictly stack infernus
unyeilding would be silly
most people are holding down the trigger until the entire horde is dead
nah it's great
what would you suggest with a recon build :3?
(silly in a good way)
VI's strengths are ammo efficiency (so you can drop shock trooper) and better ergonomics (XII has a really annoying slowdown on fire, slower reload and slower drawtime)
Should give it a try, I think I only have one recon lasgun, maybe I could expand my options
yeah i swap between vi / xii depending on my mood lol
anything i swould swap for xii orrr?
nah you can run the exact same perks/blessings for vi and xii, and exact same build
the only time it'll differ is if you want to run onslaught
oh you reminded me
i remember that lmao
don't recommend it, but it's there for shits and giggles if you want to waste a lot of ammo....
real
Hesdhunter is good for recon xii
Keep it for the crits and burn
Change out ranged weakspot tho
Damn did I just have a fucking great nap
Also, chonky spreading the good word of HH recon
I approve
I run it in general, then feel a bit bad about using the ammo
Then I remember my ass is killing stuff before others, and go back to not caring
What ammo
The small bags
Yeah but dumdum is better for burn
It's a massive damage boost
Only reason I have infernus on my recon is that if I shoot a dog/trapper it usually staggers them during the tick and saves my ass
If not outright finish them off
is it still work taking demo team with kraks orrr?
if your only really using them for bulwarks
U aint gonna be 15m next to gunners unless ur doing low difficulties
The 5% chance to get back more?
yeh
I love the 5%
Found one okay example
Demo team works for every grenade
Everytime you go to a higher difficulty, that's more free grenades back to you
Think they meant "worth" not work
Take that back, Kraks my beloved

(To be fair, I love smokes and kraks a lot)
Theyre dogshit as soon as u even step into mid havocs
I still can't bring myself to enjoy shredders, but I know damn well in how packed havoc is they'd be better
Shredders shred
Yeah kraks kinda fell out of usefulness for me
They are useless in havocs aside from bosses and killing one bulwark in an entire horde maybe
Because I would either just beat big enemies to death, or my teammates kill them
If u throw one at a bulwark shield it wont even kill them
How do you like to run your shredders, from what I've noticed we seem to agree on a lot of stuff, so I figure if you've found a perfect use-case for them you'd probably also be running them optimally

true, its a shame the tree is less easy to grab shredders noow
Shredders are your horde clear and stagger on high havocs
Ull know why everyone runs it as soon as u step into 35+
no point in always prepared for plasma because you either have bullets to shoot and kill things to allow you to reload or you don't and wouldn't have a way to reload anyway. tactical reload is great on it, imo, because you get to reload a gun with a slow reload speed faster, meaning that, yes, you're not necessarily reloading in combat, but you're changing a 10s reload time to maybe a 7s one, or even less, if you apply the fast reload tech also
I'd already mentally prepared myself for that once I heard the changes to enemy Hp and stuff in the havoc missions

Had this convo with papa recently actually lol
He didn't account for close damage scaling
dumdum isn't just straight up better in 95 percent of situations imo
Wasn't "close range" like, 30m for some reason

Or am I thinking of close range on perks not blessings
Yes, with close damage scaling down from 12.5m
So whats the conclusion
He thinks HH is better for ammo efficiency but dumdum is better for damage
I suspect dumdum might actually be better for both
But I didn't test
It also depends on how you use the gun anyways
Idk what range he tested at
In a lot of maps im not gonna be that close for gunners and stuff tho
15m
And im not exactly gonna be spraying down cryshers
Well good thing dumdum extends out to 30m 
Yeah 30m was silly, which is why I was curious too
Linearly scales down past 12.5m to 0 boost at 30
30% for 12.5 right
So at 20m for the example you're getting 60 percent of the effect of dumdum, so 18 percent damage boost
this seems very silly :3, any suggestions for bpistol?
Uhh it depends
A
Bistol kinda annoying to build for.
I like my boltgun more
You'll generally either want FT or WS to hit breakpoints
Ur talking about aurics right
oh :(
yeh

100% = 4 stamina cost for blocking a sweeping attack from Scab Mauler
Combat axe (all)
100%
Tactical axe (all)
50%
Sapper shovel (all, 60% defences)
90%
Assault chainaxe (both, 60% defences)
70%
Assault chainsword (both)
100%
"Devil's claw" sword (Mk I)
75% (perfect parry has capped stamina cost of 2)
"Devil's claw" sword (Mk IV and Mk VII)
100% (perfect parry has capped stamina cost of 2)
Heavy sword (all, 60% defences)
90%
Duelling sword (Mk II and Mk IV)
50%
Duelling sword (Mk V, 60% defences)
45%
Power sword (both)
100%
Combat blade (both)
50%
Shock maul (both)
100%
Relic blade (both)
75% (activation has same block cost as regular)
Heavy eviscerator (both)
100%
Crusher (60% defences)
140%
Thunder hammer (both, 60% defences)
140%
Blaze force greatsword (both, 80% defences)
60%
Blaze force sword (all)
100%
Slab shield & battle maul
37.5% (0% in special stance)
Cleaver (all)
100%
Delver's pickaxe (all, 60% defences)
70%
Latrine shovel (all, 60% defences)
70%
Power maul (60% defences)
90%
I cooked
B i g B o s t
is this from live testing or datamining?
tests
That taxe block efficiency lol
What about PS?
must've taken awhile
scroll down
should probably be pinned
Oh yeah
I'm pretty quick at these
I thing thought mk6 is supposed to have better block efficiency
some old rumor ig
it does have better sprint efficiency
0.75/s
Hmm
I thought I saw a vid from telo where it was tested live
fair enough, yesterday you said a talent that bpistol needed for gunner bps, i forgor what one it was
Like that one hour video on PS lol
superiority complex
alr ty
Hmmm today I'll block 2 handed chain axe sweep

Easy, play Psyker

All the block you'll ever need
Warms the heart
Do you even block when you're using your Taxe?
Or do you go on a blind frenzy mauling the everliving heck out of whatever is unfortunate enough to walk into your melee range?
it uses Push ATK a lot so yes
it's very easy to block a hit as you're doing Push ATK
Also while dodging sideways to get around efficiently in cqc
i was also a little curious on howcome you tend to suggest kraks, is it just ease of talent point costs?
Thank you both for the heads up. Always wanted to do a crit taxe build, but wasn't sure what moveset cycle to go with
So that gives me ideas.
For zealot or veteran
Dodge Vet
Cause I have a Taxe build on Vet I could toss you in like
4 hours that I use
Top score with it pretty frequently 🚬
Taxe is just that goated
Sounds good. I'll make myself a quick mockup of what I think should work well, and you can show me what you work with and we can compare notes to see what I may have overlooked.
it's quite useful for blowing up bulwarks and staggering bosses
Any recommendations on what to do next? PSword?
Thats really their only purpose 
Psword is really fun
Though Kraks were so good to use with the Ogryn event lol

I only played with it when it was considered OP, back when it just got implemented.
how much changed since then?
okiii tysm for all the advice, i assume the iag build you suggested also works fine for stuff like recon las/braced/lasipsitol right?
technically yea?
braced autogun doesn't scale well with crits tho
I dont know much as I only got the game last year but I do main it on my veteran and is still very strong when powered
recon lasgun generally wants shock trooper
ohhhhh
a lot
i completyley forgot that exists
the Psword be able to melt crushers with two or three swings is always good to use
Especially the push stab attack
Can't 7-8 powered swings anymore
which PSword mark is better for leveling?
I use the Mk6
6 is slightly better than mk3
Slightly 
I'm thinking Deci + Agile on my Taxe, think that's reasonable? 
Or Agile + Bromentum
I just really like infinite dodges
Agile not worth on tac axe
i was worried you'd say that, which is why I gave my justification
You’re looking at a melee weapon that’s missing 2 blessing slots to be good and then u go ahead to put agile on it to further lower dps

Agile is not worth. Fixed that for you.
I usually only stick it on my DS cause it doesn't really need anything to be good
So infinite dodges make sense
Honestly I just avoid it because it'll fuck up my muscle memory
I'm pretty adaptable, since I've played VT2 for an ungodly amount of time
What'dya both suggest for perks then on the taxe?
I really like how slaughter spree effectively means you'll always be critting, but that seems like a weird perk to grab unless I'm already oneshotting stuff, which means it'd be a dead perk

BM + headtaker
U stull at work buddy
Still
BM + HT also checks out
For at least another 6 hours 
Lmfao
Hey @tall torrent
Do you know if BM bypasses the cap on Taxe?
I need to farm mastery now, dammit
They do not interact
BM would deplete before CDDC applies
U havent done a 40 yet have u
I need to level tac axe once I am done with levelling chainsword
"Farm"? Just buy weapons, upgrade to green, sacrifice
Too broke

Nah, still haven't done a maelstrom either yet (successfully)
Because I want to do it with randoms first
Me and papa can get u onto a 40 later if u want
Papa will teach u game tips and shit
I would love to clear an h40
Even better if someone is teaching

I'm just making formula for the baby, will be done in like 10

Sounds like a lovely time, I'll take you up on that once I've done a few havocs with randoms just to prove to myself I ain't completely smoothbrained

I will totally survive that no problems
Just get dropped off the deep end.
You totally will die lots even with 3 bubbles on book zealot the first time round.
Fun fact: That's how I learned how to swim.
My first swimming instructor tossed my ass into the deep end of the pool, then held my head under the water while I ran out of breath

(He didn't last long as my swimming instructor, but I learned a valuable lesson that day)
"swimming instructors are cunts"
I know.
More like "Go for the balls in an emergency"
Same, except the instructor was my dad
My dads dad was worse, tbh
He dragged him out to the middle of a lake, tossed him out the boat and was like "Aight, swim back or skill issue"

Then they decided to go srs. And then I had havoc forged somehow.
Best part, I really only played heresy back then.
I think the biggest blocker is just getting bad randoms
I'm the bad random.
Just like you I joined a 40 as 27 (which I could simply not get out)
I literally played only heresy then.
And did fine
Oof
Just ping where I need to be and I'll go there. I'll panic book as we go.
I've done h25 but it's been hard to push beyond that because I keep getting refused on ogryn
and I'm mid at other classes
Teammate in maelstrom blew up two poxbursters on my ass, yeeting me to the shadow realm
After the ogryns triggered a demonhost

We haven't lost yet
But damn
You'll eventually learn the Best spots of the havoc maps
In reality as Zealot you should mostly clear horde to get crits and het book faster
So you can spam book more
2 weeks and you'll be king
Lives system basically. Oggies are gambles. Good ones are like godgryns. But most are bad.
Veteran should take care of specialists to get more shout
Psyker just needs to survive
And everyone should kill elites ofc
That's how you ez havoc
Nope. I just know 1 exploit spot on 1 map. So hurp. I just follow the psyker cos they have CDR.
I said eventually
Plus, more crits gud for them.
I saw someone suggesting on the steam forums Flamer should be added to vet
How broken would that be...
That would be as catastrophic as dueling sword
Only downside of flamer on vet is that he would suck at killing special but who cares
We love inf flamethrower!!!
Not very
Just target weakspot with your flamer
U completely lose the ability to take out long range enemies and the 1 ability that draws it quickly also has basically no bonus for it lol
Oh yeah no throwing knives
it should be on vet tbh
imperial guards user flamers
they only gave it to zealot cause fire theme
Fine but only if you run longshot with it

Oooh I know
You could run infiltrate 2 charges
Then proc the red node about close damage twice
And that's about it

Anoint in Blood at home
You sound like someone telling me to go infiltrate to ensure my revolver 1 shots in melee range for WS.
Infiltrate with me antax axe
I would never
Infiltrate then autogun go brrrr
I'd tell you to go infiltrate 2x to proc red node for Kraking bosses and 30% extra damage
That's doesn't help with penance for WS.
Point Blank blessing
Like it's not that hard to meet breakpoints with the Za
Or so I've been told
It's not hard, if you kill 10, anything but ogryns and maulers is a boom hedshot.
I have actively avoided running zarona for a while
Trying braced autoguns for now
That's another 25
So you just ads for a second and boom 100 CRIT
I mean ws is 33 per stack just hit 3 things then shoot the elite
You can also kill with your melee for penance
(and, it buffs ranged shots equal to stacks. I use graia vauto with ws to magdump BoN or tap at plogryns for boss damage)
That, I know.
I basically been doing it with knoife facestabs, lul.
Good good
Then Zealot one will be hell.
In my books. Kill 40 stunned enemies... Long range stun on sniper... LONER.
I didn't kill everything on the map, but I damn well managed to keep people alive with stealth and doing objectives

For the Keystone Marksmen Focus which modifications are good?
I like the one that gives you 5 more stacks personally
Tunnel Vision
Camo
Long Range
Long Range is for more damage
Camo is for more consistency
Tunnel Vision for funny toughness replenishment
also stamina, for when youre using deadshot
Cheers
A passive, Opening Salvo. Yay or nay?
20% ammo = 10% Crit chance
It’s mid
You only consider taking it if you go exe stance
Mostly meme, less time spent on surgical for shocktrooper
And your gun wants crit chance
gotcha gonna swap that for something else then cheers again
@wild vortex we r playing now
Trying something new, thoughts?
@neon current we got clandestine
hm?
Weakspot Perks aren't good because of how FS math
So a 25% against flak/maniac is often more useful
How else would you change it?
Flak + Maniacs/Unarmored
Las weapons have high maniac damage already
So I tend to do Un for ILAGs
Cause
Total Tox Bomber Death
I hate them
Agreed
Then what about its blessings? Or should I also share my talent tree for that?
Headhunter Ghost is usually the combo
How so?
Immunity to Ranged and crits are already decent enough on las weapons
Mediocre
Standard is pretty good at staggering stuff
3 is anti armor but kinda sucks at every else
7 is a mix of anti armor while being decent at other stuff
Yes
Shovels are based
Grab rending blessing, then smack smack smack
They’re again mediocre
But they’re the best mediocre one veteran has
Like if Rashad Didnt exist or power sword
Shovel and Heavy sword would be top melee picks
Or ds4, or knife 
I’d assume this is common knowledge those are busted
Hence I never bring them up lmao
Knoife requires you to be basically in enemies' faces though.
Doesn’t change shots to kill
Mobility
They both give insane mobility
One is higher risk to rewards though.
Compared to DS, it is.
Well, you get overwhelemed then.
Or drop 'nades.
inb4 terror of the tech adepts
Chonky's big brain broke the headphones
Cant hear shit
Duct tape it to your head
Jokes aside, superglue and a sliver of sheet metal as an internal brace are probably your best bet
Assuming the wiring is alright
Yea im gonna duct tape it until i get a new one lmfao
I been using this for 3 years
Yea its not damage
Just the plastic snapped off
Had to play a whole game with this shit lmao
Could have been worse, I had to resolder the wiring in my headphones and replace a cable
Fuck dude
Id just get a new headset at that point
I prolly will get another new headset
Same mdoel but new
Nah, I'm stubborn, I knew I could fix it (and these were damn well expensive and work like a charm)
15$ repair vs 500$ headphones I can't get again

Don't work if it's the wire burning out, lul.
I miss my PC350 SE.
Also, you missed awful penance builds in aurics. @vernal trench
Waht did i miss again
Me running smoke, infil, Focus target.
PENANCE HUNTING.
But yeah.
No golden toughness game tho cuz shit zealot died and rage quit


No bubble either
that's so based tho
We are memeing around... Bubble? You get bubble at home.
Smoke.
Smoke
mah smokes are the best son
Used it to pick ppl up, lmao.
Chuck two, one under person needing a pick up, one at the shooting things.
bit bigger area
Probs not worth it, but funni.
Twinned smokes are a statement
I’m actively throwing
And I want you to know this
It's a 4 stack, so we went in knowing I'm penance hunting build.
With weird pickups.
Also, Demo team with smokes.
Yes.
Twin smokes is a power move
As a Xbox player, how’d you get the stats? I mashed every button on the score board and couldn’t get it
Mods
For PC
Because fatshark decided not having useful fucking stats was a gameplay mechanic
so players had to fix it themselves
😔
So can we as gamepass players install these mods or are these a steam thing only
steam only
big sad
well PC only
Yeah i have it on pc gamepass
I guess i will have to get it on steam to mod it
np thanks tho
Depends, some gamepass games allow you to modify files as much as you'd like
so I'd say try following the modding guide and see if it works
Thanks brah
My game crashed in my havoc match
So I lost the scoreboard stats

First havoc done tho
havoc 16
Noice!
U cant get it on consoles
I found out 😞

Why is collateral he dump stat on the bolt pistol?
Path says it doesn't do anything going from 60 to 80.
Either way, it barely matters.

my bad for the later ping but, how should i build las stuff, (recon las, laspistol)? is it just shock tooper thats preferred orrr?
What melee
Not much
okiii
howcome people take one motion and out for blood now, instead of close order drill and confirmed kill?
Throw 'nade (FRAGS), full toughness.
Idk if that's most people
But that's what I do
Obviously frags is a big thing
Still no word on veteran weapons
OM and O4B synergize very well with frags
The 5 percent movement speed node is sweet
And then I'm always running strong horde clear melees
So O4B is super good with those
You get toughness from using your gun and seeing vet usually uses their gun to drop shooters or specials/elites
you can see the value from it
that and obviously Blitz's giving Toughness
Man this is like the worst reason to get O4B NGL lol
You'd be surprised how much it can help in a pinch
If I'm in a pinch I'll swing my Rashad or PS and restore 40% toughness from nearby poxwalkers 
those moments when shooters are raining hell upon you and there isn't any chaffe nearby to leech off of
especially right after you use VOC and its down
'nades.
we're getting a new ranged veteran weapon called graia munitorum surplus grenade container and it's a 1/40 weapon where you can block bullets with the container as your right click and throw shredder frag grenades as your left click
the voices told me this so it's totally getting added guys
Isn't bolt pistol supposed to be used for the movement speed and picking specific specials?
what would be the point of it penetrating many enemies
Is for Lethal Prox.
that as well ig
poxwalker is between you and the gunner you want to shoot
bolt pistol has bad penetration
wdyd
Yeah that happens too... sometimes. I just haven't gotten much use of O4Bs ranged kill toughness restore generally
also collateral doesn't affect the penetration iirc
it's blast radius, stagger, and suppression
oh wait no just stagger and suppression
Gotten a shit ton of use off it when those scenarios pop up just cause im using a gun that drops shooters in literally one click
so I instantly get enough toughness to gate enough shooting before I can push into a melee horde
that or till VOC is up
move to the fucking side wraaaa
Well I think we can agree O4B good either way 
CK is good you just get more usage out of O4B
hence I've been using it a lot more in my builds
Confirmed Kill is NOT
Mid
Its Good
Exhilarating is decent
CK is good
and O4B is just fucking insane
Just had a nice lovely hot shower, destressed
Moisturised
In my lane
Ready to commit heinous acts of violence against heretics

It's not heinous if it's against heretics
it's not violence if it's against heretics
It is charitable
and it is mercy
can I get an amen
@narrow frost i crashed lmao
Lord am I gonna be merciful in a bit

Just gotta find my beanie and get a drink
flamer kick range got me fucked up
The kicks can be surprisingly annoying lol
i want to like heavy sword so much but this upward sweep is genuinely infuriating to use sometimes
Solution: Mk9
Just light heavy for horde clear. Light comes out super fast
And strike down starter is great imo
Someone educate me, on recons why is dum dum the pick over deathspitter for buffing infernus? Ease of building stacks?
Yeah
Indeed
Thank you, my build is so strength starved I was really craving deathspitter.
finally trying a new vet build other then helbore and shovel im running the revolver the hold the hammer and a dagger its decent
Cowboy revolver and knoife
Great choices
Cowboy revolver setup right will just entirely remove bosses
i actually ran by a group of snipers
3 of em got 3 headshots and kept running because everyone but me was dead
i was running from congaline of armor
monsties are much easier to fight then a line of crushers
Regular revolver makes short work of cara if you go heavy into damage stuff
Love me my oneshot crusher build
it was like 9 of em chasing me and they were all dead
1 piercing shot revolver.
At that point, your job is to GTFO or murber
yes exactly its why i was running to get the revives
You'll get to the point where you can devastate them with either weapon

All a matter of practice
lol but i got 245 tougness without buffs
i can take one overhead and lose like 14 health
I have no reference for toughness, far as I'm concerned I either have my bar full or I'm in danger

fair enough but yes if i block i can take 1 overhead and only lose 14 health
the followup will kill me though
You're lucky you can survive the overheads
Most of my builds will just eat shit if I leave myself in that position
thats not the issue i can fight crushers with the knife i refuse to do so when im the only one alive
i also spawned into a lobby today 2 people dead last one went down and i had to speed run through the map using the knife to pick people up which was fun
Dueling sword (which is currently busted imho) will effectively let you solo cara even if everyone is dead
And comfortably
its boring so no
Sometimes boring is necessary to get comfy with enemy patterns
Then you move onto the more fun stuff
You get that ASS properly, or by cheesing it?
just the only build i regularly use on vet is helbore and shovel
i got it by repeated attempts as ogryn
Okay that makes more sense
yes took me like 3 weeks of playing as ogryn only
aurics are really fun especially maelstroms with the extra grenade modifier so i get 3 of the big frag nades
Nades are always a blessing
but i was using the basically mace as ogryn for stun lockin things
made it much easier
The crusher?
no the slap mace thing
Way too many people sleep on that on oggy and zealot
Pubs, I guess.
I always found it funny I got A.S.S. in my first 5 auric maels.
a couple of the runs were with a youtuber
Gotta love being able to smash the ground and everyone in the room suffers
so not full on pubs
I could probably get myself the ASS title tomorrow
What about getting ASS by mistake?
and i want to eventually get the golden medal
This newest build I'm running makes it hella easier to get objectives done, so I can just focus on those and saving people while everyone else gremlins up the ammo and kills
but the main factor how i got a.s.s is my like 5k hours in vermintide 2
Well, Chaos carried so... he counts as Youtuber, right?
Eyyyyyyy
not them
VT2 gremlin like me
Yes, but I mean on my end.
I could never get into cata, cause my friends could already barely handle playing legend

Is like, you go from 9 ping heresy to 270 ping auric maels.
the first attempt where i got to 4 i died from a plague ogryn busting down the wall and knocking me across the room into a dh and i died
Just don't die, they say.
nothing i could about that
Me doing fine today until a random in the party blows up a barrel throwing me off the map
three times in the same session

Plays vet for A.S.S.
i got blown away by a barrel away from a crusher overhead i couldn't dodge and survived
Very smort idea.
so the barrel helped me out in that situation
I could probably get ASS as vet
nice
try getting the medal as vet the nobody goes down
Making sure nobody goes down as vet will not be easy
exactly the point
Unless I intentionally refuse to play with randoms
I mean... I got that on the last for A.S.S. so...
or you could duo it
Just kill so many specialists that your team virtually has golden toughness at all times
as i always say dead bodies can't kill you when i play vt2
Damn straight they can't
and thats why i use hunstman or shade

Party was a psyker mains stack so...
I usually go saltz masochist with flail + brace
Nothing like living on the edge of my final breath
doc do you know the exploit to infiently spawn ammo from thin air with repeater as kruber and you stack up a few hundred
i don't need pick ups i can make my own ammo
Nope, ain't never tried. I'mma assume you mean as huntsman since it has the +1 ammo innately and with the HS mod on the gun?
makes sense
But at that point I could just run minigun dwarf for even more dakka
I still can't believe they made him that busted
yes but that has to be recharged where i can just keep shooting as kruber
But but but, the classic inf ammo swiftbow.
the only character in vt2 that i don't have purity skin is bounty hunter
Paid DLC reeeeeeeeeeee
Yeeeeeeee
I did when she came out, and immediately came to the conclusion those bastards stole psykers from here and tried reskinning it in VT2 and it sucks
im actually really solid with necro sienna
Abusing your minions for spell juice?
How so? Psykers don't get summons.
lol also having them hold the line while i abuse monsters
Staff + Vibe
in certan 40k games psykers can summon tornados and shit like that
The scythe also felt surprisingly underwhelming
not a tradiontal summon but still a summon
Felt more like krubers halberd at best, pickaxe contender at worst
Pickaxe is one of my favourite two things on dwarf to kill super armor with
facts
I'm purely talking Darktide in a way. By steal, I mean copypasta. Like how half the weapons we have are just VT2 ports.
(torpedo naturally is the other, cause infinite BOOLIT)
also i absolutely loving throwin axes
Throwing axes are peak
they are difficult to learn but very useful
Crazy ass announcement
i already know
Isn't that like throwing knoifes?
the axes can be picked back up though
Yes, but with a bigger arch and you can Thor them back to yourself
They are already making a 3?
lol
And you can build them so that if you get a headshot, they just pop back into your pocket
Fastest sequel announcement ever lol
So you can technically go the whole damn game just throwing axes if you're based enough
oh my god ðŸ˜
exactly
this psyker is smiting individual enemies at the start of a civi
i need to get the fuck out of here
also some slayers at the end of the map like to use their ability to jump off the map
oooh one singular crusher scaryyyy
You should see those in H40 smyking 1 lone walker.
doc do you know the dash skip on the dwarf map to jump across the gap to the very end where it triggers the spawns for every special enemy on the map to rush towards you
its really funny to watch
its a stampede of gunner rats assasins stranglers the gas guys etc all of em together coming towards you
Haven't actually played the dwarf map since it came out, cause all my friends had stopped playing and going solo all the time was giving me burnout
(then I moved to here for a while)
but yes that skip kills you
I'd almost exclusively use witch for skips tho. Cemetary map onto the roofs, to the exit of the map was hilarious while I could do it.
They probably patched it out at this point
but yes this skip you can't leave the map because the objective is unfinished and you get like a hundred things running in to kill ya
yes lol its fun to watch ive yet to see someone survive it though
I probably wouldn't, given the class ya gotta use to make it
I'm too much of a saltz main to be reasonable with my health pool
(unchained witch is my close second)
Yeah, I couldn't survive as that.
exactly why
It's my "speedrun" character, at best.
you need the double dash to make the gap
You're making me consider updating the game
But the "chaos wastes" for darktide is in less than 2 weeks
i play it on xbox sadly
give us special cosmetics for that in darktide like we got in vt2
facts
Aight, it's 2:30. Even if it's the weekend, I should get my catnap in.
Gotta stuff to do tomorrow, which I should prolly be awake for.
GL revolver oceloting it in DT
Do me proud and make crushers regret running into you

@steep flower
Jk he aint stupid
But fuck smite
Man; I need to grab ya and show ya what a smiker can do 
SPOILERS; I will smite 
Catnap?
fish
I know.
There's a meme in 40k about the Elysians being french. But no one can tell me anything past them having Le' space Famas.
That's about it


