veteran-class

[dry cloak]

Bromentum

[fresh nova]

Using infiltrate has completley changed my play style. Being able to sneak behind enemy lines and light them up from various vatage points is so fun. I really want to play with an Orgyn that pulls agro.

[junior needle]

I know about brudal, but caxes have that too and they're easier to use

[dry cloak]

Try graia brauto

[junior needle]

Also the light spam one doesn't use brudal that well

[austere mica]

Caxes also have worse finesse and don’t have the stagger output of taxes

Less mobility

Slower

[junior needle]

It was formerly known as the taxe 4, not sure if it was changed with the update that reworked the names

[austere mica]

Not innate crit

[austere mica]

Taxes were untouched

And it’s well known mk4 is worst

You either take 2 or 7

[dry cloak]

I use the brown taxe

[austere mica]

7

[dry cloak]

Is nice

Mk 4 is green or blue

[austere mica]

Forgor

[dry cloak]

I believe you have better internet right now please check it on games lantern

[grand perch]

[grand perch]

I always considered 2 the worst due to no strikedown in the heavy combo.

[austere mica]

You don’t need it

Taxe lightspam’s cara on everything except mk4, which is bad

[grand perch]

Yeah I'm aware.

[austere mica]

I ran mk2 for a while then went back to mk7 because psyker can have positive stamina even if using PA->Heavy loop

[stuck tree]

whose got a uhh

build on recon lasgun pls

[stoic thorn]

Me watching as my dumbass 3 psyker team fucking die from blowing up and a daemonhost

[dry cloak]

Have you seen a helbore build?

Change helbore to reconlasgun

And dobt take deadshot put that point elsewhere

[stuck tree]

not yet

[dry cloak]

Eh look at build on games lantern

Im in school so i cant help

[heavy rover]

Hi in school

[dry cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-gif-8285970240646611836

[stoic thorn]

Me when I wanna run shotgun but it's ammo economy is so fucking ass

[signal breach]

Is there really a bad gun for veteran?

Or more than one?

[grand perch]

Autopistol

All others I'd say are workable... Though you can still clear most content with autopistol

[unreal nova]

But at that point you are playing melee vet though.

[grand perch]

P much

[signal breach]

Started playing him and thought the same

just wanted assurance

[true orchid]

Any hellgun like guns for veteran

[dry cloak]

Recon lasgun is the closest

[true orchid]

Which mark

[uncut pebble]

12, I think. The blue one.

[unreal nova]

No, blue is brrrrrrrrrrrr

[uncut pebble]

Yeah. Volume of fire is kind of a hellgun's whole thing.

[unreal nova]

Oh hellgun, was thinking hellbore but someone typo'd.

[true orchid]

Cheers need to get the kasrkin kit finished

[uncut pebble]

Just throwing it out there, the mk12 doesn't do very much damage per shot. You'll want to definitely have reciprocity and abuse infernus.

Because fire does a stupid amount of damage.

[true orchid]

Cheers recently decided to move on from zealot

[uncut pebble]

If you really want to abuse your gun, you should play scriers psyker.

Assuming you're hitting only headshots, you can crit every shot in your recon.

[true orchid]

To be honest not in to max out damage just need a bit of kasrkin action

[steep flower]

use Headhunter; more efficient and saves you points in the talent tree

[uncut pebble]

Headhunter is not more efficient and it actually hurts your dps because you don't have dumdum.

If it was like the headhunter on vigilants, which is 20% per shot, it would absolutely be worth it, but on recons, it's 5% per shot.

You'll already be pathing reciprocity anyway, btw.

You just need to make a mental note to make use of reciprocity as much as humanly possible.

[steep flower]

Dum dum works if what you shoot is within 12m of you; good for bosses & bulwarks and anything that gets close to that distance either through your own advancement or theirs; otherwise not; how many times you face a horde of gunners & shooters within 12m range and not further no matter the map? I can tell ya from practice; not that alot; on highier DPS recons yes, on the fastest firing one you stack infernus & watch them burn; you save ammo too

also counters pus modifier

[uncut pebble]

Within 12m is pretty easy.

Especially if you choose to run infiltrate.

I'm also speaking from recon usage on vet, zealout, and psyker, all 3.

[crude wind]

I don't like Headhunter on recons cause then you lose either infernus or dumdum

Better to get crit from the tree and run onslaught

[wheat stratus]

dumdum used to not be so good, but then they went and buffed the close combat range

now it's ridic

[crude wind]

So tapped now lol

[summer lance]

any good recon gun/combat knife builds?

[uncut pebble]

Recon and knife are unfortunately kind of mutually exclusive, both need a lot of investment.

You can still get by using both but they won't have the stellar performance that they usually would.

[stiff glacier]

Scryer psyker does both well

[uncut pebble]

Well, that's because scriers and dd are catchall talents.

Vet needs specific breakpoints to meet with knife that you may or not be able to meet if you invest in your recon.

There's, what, 7 breakpoint talents for vet, abilities included?

Psyker has 4, and you can't run 2 of them together because they're keystones.

[hollow ibex]

Pretty sure it's within 30m or so, just scaling down past 12m?

[steep flower]

lol no; blessings stacks when you are within 12m of an enemy hit

and the dmg works within that range too

[uncut pebble]

Wrong.

[steep flower]

anything beyond does not

[uncut pebble]

Dumdum stacks at any range, but only has an effect within 12m.

[hollow ibex]

doesn't it grant close damage?

[steep flower]

Does affect any dmg, including DoT but only if you are within 12m distance; otherwise dead blessing

[hollow ibex]

is guide wrong then?

+C.dmg is a unique type of +dmg buff applied against enemies within 30m of the player. This retains full value up to 12.5m & falls off linearly from 12.5m to 30m (×100% at 12.5m → ×0% at 30m)

@tall torrent does dumdum damage boost scale after 12.5m?

[steep flower]

Did quick test; does scale

Basically; headhunter will give you more eff in terms of ammo; dum dum will give you better dmg per bullet; its all due to infernus

cause fire DoT... melts... literally

You stack 12 burn Dots then hop on another enemy while the rest cooks

BBQ

[hollow ibex]

ok yeah i remember dumdum being really stupid

[steep flower]

Don't forget lackluster info about how the thing works too cause Fatfish do be like that

We need the community to decipher these

[hollow ibex]

yeah

[terse idol]

HH just ain't that valuable for recon though still

Even just running like deathspitter and dumdum is just better

[gentle maple]

Fav blessings for the boltgun?

[hollow ibex]

pinning fire + puncture / shattering impact + puncture

[steep flower]

Until you decide to magdump enemies instead of making the infernus work and you run low on recon laz of all weapons (we don't talk about shock trooper btw)

seen too many situations when ppl ran out on recon

HH helps

[terse idol]

Imo it's just you're giving up damage for just ammo

Might as well just run surv, shocktrooper and the crit chance perk

Imo i don't know if you even feel HH

With your extra crit chance node and crit chance perk

DS and DumDum would stiiilll be better cause you're gaining dps which is saving you ammo already

[steep flower]

I don't run shock trooper; not needed; rest is present

[terse idol]

Oh come oonn

If you're talking about saving ammo with HH

Ah I gotta tone it down

I'm like

If half of what you're saying is you're saving ammo by taking HH with survivalist

Wouldn't it just have been better to take fire team and then go shocktrooper?

If you're not running shocktrooper may as well run pure damage anywhoo

[faint beacon]

Headhunter is only useful if you’re running Shocktrooper

It’s not needed if you have survivalist

[distant fox]

I feel like range builds become useless on hardest difficulty, any advice? I can barely pull my gun without using voice

[vernal trench]

Wdym hardest difficulty

[dry cloak]

No they dont. Advice keep your distance when trying to shoot

[dry cloak]

I think he means damnation

[vernal trench]

I guess hes kinda right technically maybe

As in damnation

[dry cloak]

Yet somehow when i play vet i have my bolter out most of the time

Meleeing trash to not waste ammo

[vernal trench]

Yea

Pulling out ur gun should never be an issue

[hollow ibex]

Ranged focused builds are just a bit harder to learn at high difficulties for newer players because the game likes to keep up the pressure there

[dry cloak]

This sentence can taken very out of context

[vernal trench]

I said gun not cock

[atomic void]

https://tenor.com/view/islam-astaghfirullah-haram-gif-22586634

[dry cloak]

So what

Cock has a lot of synonims

[vernal trench]

Guys i think this topic getting too inappropriate

[dry cloak]

Plot twist it was never pulled in

Ok lets stop this

Ogryn brain overheating

Hit me with branx over the head

Should help

[distant fox]

damnation

[vernal trench]

I mean realistically speaking that is far from the hardest difficulty

But u need to pull out ur weapon atthe right moments and know how to dodge away from attacks as u shoot momentarily

Remember melee switch is instant

[gaunt anchor]

ranged weapons are also good for enemies that might be hard to get into melee range

like snipers

I also like them against flamers and bombers

[dry cloak]

Also learn to push bursters

[gaunt anchor]

please yes please

[vernal trench]

No

[gaunt anchor]

I don't wanna be launched off the cliff again by someone shooting a burster next to me.

[vernal trench]

No

[gaunt anchor]

the only time I shoot them is when they are far away from others or when I was trying to shoot something else and he burster 'GET DOWN MISTER PRESIDENT'

[wild vortex]

Just more situational awareness, using dodges and pushes well, horde management, knowing where safe(r) spots are

[distant fox]

okay thanks

[orchid hemlock]

Oh boy, I got a mode for you 💀

Wait we having a HH debate again?

🍿

[grand perch]

i just spontaneously solo'd an auric damnation with shredder pistol + taxe because it probably honestly would be easier than trying to finish the mission with the team

[mellow cobalt]

any good braced autogun builds?

[hollow ibex]

You can try something like this

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e12d775-939b-4268-985f-57c11a884caa/brrrrrrt

[mellow cobalt]

thanks dude!!!

[grand perch]

tactical axe melee

a person of culture wrote this

[hollow ibex]

If you don't need onslaught you can prob pick up melee talents to help with your melee abilities

But the build should overall be pretty ammo efficient

Abuse Exec Stance, crouching and bracing

[mellow cobalt]

true

[mellow cobalt]

i already do with my lasguns lol

[surreal thicket]

whats the current like basic meta for vet in auric games?

[faint beacon]

VOC WS

[dim tiger]

Is there any good reason why i should bother leveling up Helbore gun? It feels so bad to use

[formal ice]

Why wouldn't you?

You can always just give 40 green level helbores to the robotic android person to max level it

[dim tiger]

Does it have a situation where it excels while other guns don't ?

[formal ice]

Kill big elites by clicking on their heads

[dim tiger]

Plasma does that but faster

[formal ice]

But lasgun

[formal ice]

You know what I mean by lasgun, do you?

[wheat stratus]

it's the ammo return on crit, that's the big thing with las series

[dusky raven]

what weapon do you lot use on havoc 40s?

[wheat stratus]

though that advantage won't be apparent with the tsunami of ammo in lower diff

[dusky raven]

so far the only thing that felt comfortable to use was bolt pistol

[formal ice]

Imagine playing havoc 40

[dim tiger]

and the Plasma gun insta kills the tsunami of elites on higher diffs

[formal ice]

Must be so lucky

[wheat stratus]

heh, I don't know about the insta part

plasma runs out of ammo real fast if you have to deal with the ranged critters littered all over the place

it does monster damage to hordes though

which is why recon is a classic favorite

[dusky raven]

just pop shout and a nade for hordes

bolt pistol for disablers and specials

knife for all the rest

[wheat stratus]

true true

[normal bay]

I think most run recon, since Bolter and Plasma have some awkward breakpoints on H40

[dusky raven]

Infernus build?

[normal bay]

I have no idea

But this is darktide, so fire is good

[hollow turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/purge-wh40k-burn-gif-13397110

[formal ice]

Green fire meta

But green fire only heretic team

Hm...

[dusky raven]

Sounds ratty

[faint beacon]

Nurgle coded statement

[trim steppe]

Someday

[gaunt anchor]

what perks and blessings should I run on Recon Lasgun?

[narrow frost]

[winter sluice]

I like head hunter and dum dum

And flak and critical chance

(for shocktroop)

[hollow ibex]

Headhunter trap

Aside from perhaps very specific applications in havoc

[winter sluice]

I like it for the extra crit chance so I can conserve more ammo

[hollow ibex]

That's not a bad line of thinking... but tbh you conserve more ammo by just doing more damage

And dumdum is really fucking stupidly good at that

[winter sluice]

I like dumdum it's funny

[hollow ibex]

Also the game explains things very poorly

[orchid hemlock]

#veteran-class message

[heavy rover]

if you want to push for as much ammo economy as possible, i suggest the mkiib infantry las with headhunter and infernus

[uncut pebble]

Infernus is bad on ilas.

And you're 1 or 2 shotting everything that isn't mauler or ogryn shaped anyway.

You would be far better suited to run headhunter and ghost to make you be more able to line up shots and miss less.

[orchid hemlock]

yeah dont use infernus on ilas pls god 😭

[heavy rover]

admittedly I jump between infernus and ghost on infantry las. Depends if I'm on a havoc with pus-hardened enemies or not

[terse idol]

Iirc from what I've heard here and talked about head hunter just

You won't feel the added crits

Apart from like, the crit chance you get from the talent tree

And the + crit chance perk you probably should take

You're better off taking dumdum and either infernus/Deathspitter

[uncut pebble]

When you look at pus hardened you should automatically swap to recon anyway due to crit strings.

[weak cape]

Is 69 thermal resistance the bear minimum on the Plasma gun to get the max number of shots?

I just rolled a 68% thermal resistance after 2 million dockets and I kind of want to die.

[formal ice]

Unlucky you

[weak cape]

Finally got it.

This just proves that gambling is always right and you should never give up.

[verbal burrow]

Congrats!

[pallid jetty]

250k more

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-emoji-laughing-emoji-animated-laugh-gif-27394849

[wheat stratus]

how much

[trim steppe]

Now keep rolling til you get a 69/72

I'm still mad about this one. It was a 71 CR / 70 TR until I empowered it, then they swapped.

[weak cape]

Only like 200k more.

[wheat stratus]

you lucked out that roll with only 200k? 😂

sure you didn't miss a few 0s

[weak cape]

2,200,000 total. Sorry. I thought it was clear earlier when I said I spent 2 mil and still didn't have it.

Then 3 minutes later I got it.

[wheat stratus]

that's still pretty good

I'm pretty sure I dumped more than 2 mil so far

[weak cape]

Yeah. I'm down to only 10 mil ordo dockets now. I'm broke again.

Best advice I can give is to never stop gambling. Everyone stops buying plasma guns right before they get the perfect roll.

[hollow ibex]

Same

[wheat stratus]

of course you never stop, what else you gonna spend orens on in this game when you are loaded, ugly cosmetics 😂

[hollow ibex]

Honestly idc much about the money. It's just that rolling a hundred of those guns and manually sorting them is a fucking pain

[wheat stratus]

^^^^^

damn shame the "buy until" mod didn't upgrade for this new version of the game

[trim steppe]

I thought 10mil was the cap, did they raise it?

I spent about 2.5mil getting that 1-point-wrong plasma and decided I didn't care enough to continue lol

[atomic void]

its the only bad aspect that remains post crafting updates

next sort this trash out and let me just pay a fixed amount of money for rarity

instead of gooombling

death to rng

[trim steppe]

Let me pay 100k ordos to swap 1 point between stats

idc

[narrow frost]

@faint beacon

[surreal gust]

Cap is 25 mil

[narrow frost]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-tf2-sniper-tf2-meet-the-sniper-team-fortress2-gif-23137486

[faint beacon]

Straight up playing it the exact opposite of how I normally do it lmao

but absolutely badass LMAO

[narrow frost]

I love getting into the spots they cant get to me

and just shoot

tests my map knowledge

[frank basin]

muttie the bug fixer and joy ruiner

[grand perch]

autopistol near instantly staggering trapper is so satisfying when it works

[austere mica]

Randoms watching you carry with the most hipster loadout possible

[narrow frost]

Stealing my build

Smh

But yes, shredder is so slept on

It's so good

[dry cloak]

Ainz but do you have standards?

[grand perch]

i am going to run that loadout in h40 some day and see if cant win 1 match with it...likely getting carried for the most part

[narrow frost]

I ran my 40 with it

Better on zealot I do think

[dry cloak]

Youre a madman

[grand perch]

zealot gets more out of it

[narrow frost]

It softens them up for a throwing knife 1 shot

[dry cloak]

This is what i do on ogryn

[dry cloak]

Aye

[mellow cobalt]

how to deal with maulers and or ragers please

[austere mica]

Maulers are like crushers but with flak bodies

And Path has a video on ragers

What melee's do you run?

[surreal gust]

Dodge

[mellow cobalt]

shovel

[austere mica]

Mk?

[mellow cobalt]

vii

[surreal gust]

7

[austere mica]

Oh well I have no idea

mk1 chain staggers ragers with heavies and its specials will break them out of combo

[normal sparrow]

Pray
Folded light with some power blessing stagger them, but that only takes care one of them

[surreal gust]

I think your best option is prob just dodging

If you can

[austere mica]

Do you have creature spawner?

[mellow cobalt]

ja

[austere mica]

Practice fighting like 4 at a time

[mellow cobalt]

mmmmmmmh

[vernal ermine]

What is a good Mission to do "on Oberwatch" on?

[unreal nova]

Anything fast with no bosses. CSpawn can dook it over if it grabs you.

[vernal ermine]

I was thinking about conigment Yard HL-17-36 but at the end you get swarmed pretty heavy

[unreal nova]

Train is fast, but forced cqc makes it hard.

It can also depend on teammates. If they kill efficiently, you have less to deal with.

[vernal ermine]

Well i always played wirh randoms, they are good teammates as well but if they just ran of it makes it harder to avoid melee (and i don't want to take infiltrator ^^)

[unreal nova]

Take shout with the gold toughness node, spam the dook out of it.

Gold toughness is king, and use it if you get hit once at full toughness.

[dry cloak]

Be left at the start and explode yourself with plasma

Thats how one guy got it

[unreal nova]

Yes, but not everyone wants to cheese it.

[dry cloak]

Fair

[unreal nova]

They don't sound like they want to go last resort yet.

But yes, the last resort is use plasma and be like a psyker or hang on a ledge till death. Down yourself at the start and have someone carry you through without rescuing.

[vernal ermine]

I heared about the chees were ypu just jump of a clif but this got pached i think

[unreal nova]

Nope.

That's not fixed.

[vernal ermine]

Oh ok

[unreal nova]

If you ledge or do a psyker, you technically did not get hit in melee.

You do count as going down and dying though.

So when you get sick of trying, you can ask for that. Though I don't trust myself to solo so you need to find others.

[grand perch]

good enough to upload this
https://youtu.be/c6V6exchS2c

too bad YT encoding is shiiiiit at encoding dark areas. lights out missions look grainy as fuck

[stoic thorn]

Consignment has a boss at the end tho

There is always a boss at the end of consignment

It's a 50/50 between chaos spawn and Plague ogryn

I think

[tropic halo]

If I remember it never spawns a beast

[frank basin]

didn't path.exe or someone said autopistol is still bad?

[stoic thorn]

I always get a beast

Wait no

[frank basin]

i still keep autopistol

[stoic thorn]

Nvm you're referring to beast of nurgle

[tropic halo]

[stoic thorn]

Yeah it's a 50/50 tossup between Plague ogryn and Chaos Spawn

It's the only level that will confirm spawn a monstrosity

I think

So you are going to have a good chance of your overwatch run being over because you got touched by the chaos spawns

I did mine on Enclavum Baross I think

HL-17-36 is VERY cramped

You ARE going to be touched if you're not very careful

[frank basin]

i remember that area at the before draw bridge i try carry 3 wykers as ogryn they died so fast on second time i try clutch, then shot by shooter.

[stoic thorn]

You get like one chance with Iron Will from full normal toughness

Everything else after that will hit your health and end the run

[vernal ermine]

I think a boss is better for this achivement because a teammate can tank the melee damage. But i'm not an Expert

[grand perch]

I'm seriously considering uploading videos just explaining how to actually do these events. The draw bridge event is like Kryptonite for the average pubbie

Same with Gloriana first event

[frank basin]

man the 3 psyker died on first rounds

i was last one clutch and revive them once time

just funny

when i was first time play darktide i got used to fps game with situational awareness

just suck with gear and lack of feats

(the feats before skill tree rework, i was around 2022)

[grand perch]

Sometimes I just Ping the batteries and casually time how long the average pub takes to notice there's no point to fighting up at the bridge when you need to bring a battery up

I had groups that fought up at the bridge for over 10 minutes and still no one understood they need to bring a f****** battery up

[frank basin]

oh if you spam ping you get some mic user said you're being obnoxious for spam pingging and told you to stop

[frank basin]

there's no need to censor the vulgar, you can use it

theres mic user bitching about spam pinging

that's always happen

[vernal ermine]

This is the Mission where you need to take back the thronesight right?

[frank basin]

i did once, i got told

seeing avatar na'vi

consider this one

[grand perch]

Speech to text automatically censors

[frank basin]

huh?

[grand perch]

I'm using the dictate feature on my phone. Couldnt be bothered to type

[frank basin]

you using speech to text as typing?

[grand perch]

Yeah?

[frank basin]

wow

rare use

it does has flaw tho...

[vernal ermine]

No one starves on my watch

[unreal nova]

Nope, a BoN can spawn there. I know cos i had to kite one while someone went to pick up the rest of the team before.

[unreal nova]

Naw, a boss can just choose to aggro you if it wants to. Only a BoN chases the gunked player.

[loud belfry]

more finales should have bosses come out tbh

[tame lodge]

Or crushers.....

[stoic thorn]

God I want more LM tank varieties

[dry cloak]

more bosses.

[stoic thorn]

I wanna see a demolisher just fucking pulverise the shit out of a chaos spawn

[stoic thorn]

Heretic sentinel

We go through an airlock to see a shit ton of fodder cultists and sixers

And then 2 punishers appear from holes in the walls and gun them down

[frank basin]

The “oh yeah” move

[stoic thorn]

I want to see a Rogal Dorn pummel a Plague ogryn

All weapons firing optimal loadout

Oppressor cannon with coax autocannon, pulveriser cannon(dollar store demolisher), 2 Multimeltas, 2 meltaguns and a heavy stubber

Would also be pretty funny to see a squad of Guardsmen get cut down by a DH

[frank basin]

DH vs guardsmen is dumbluck

[stoic thorn]

DH would body them tbf

[frank basin]

Either one lasted blocking DH attacking then veteran just blasting lasgun/boltgun or whatever high rate of fire

Ogryn on other hand would melt it

[stoic thorn]

I think a DH would just fucking murder 10 guardsmen

Regular ass guardsmen

[frank basin]

In animated yes

[stoic thorn]

Like off in the distance we see the DH just bodying a squad of 21st

Meltaguns are a hard find for the guard so they're fucked

For an aquatic regiment I wonder what they field for special weapons

[frank basin]

Melta kinda sound expensive

Sister sororitas boltgun exclusive use only not for guardsmen

But got grant to the reject operative is strangely why

Due to 4 squad low number probably like a prisoner of Navy Seal

[stoic thorn]

We're Inquisition operatives

We get the good shit because we in the Inquisition

[frank basin]

Inquis like one scientist guy want work alone

Asking fund a lot

[stoic thorn]

We scrape dead battlefields for the weapons

[dry cloak]

my brain trolled me

[frank basin]

How?

[frank basin]

Probably why heretic go onto hand of bolt weapon

[dry cloak]

on steam in favourites space marine 2 and darkitde are next to each other

[frank basin]

Corpses

[dry cloak]

sm2 got some fix

[frank basin]

Oh?

[dry cloak]

and mt brain registered it as DARKTIDE UPDATE

pain

[frank basin]

Oh lmao so like space marine in Darktide

[stoic thorn]

I don't think the heretics have bolt weapons

[frank basin]

Well if they salvage from corpses of imperium

[stoic thorn]

The captains sometimes have plasma pistols

[frank basin]

They may think bolt weapon are expensive for special ammunition

[stoic thorn]

Yeah the ammo is expensive

Compared to lascells

[dry cloak]

i think theyre plasma pistols are not much smaller tha our plasmas

[frank basin]

That’s why logistic come with cheap solution, more enemies outnumber the hive city

They are nurgle worshipper so body control are only weapon effective against the operative

And imperium

Pox walker are zombies

[stoic thorn]

The 6th don't spend much on special weapons actually

Flamers are pretty cheap

[frank basin]

They look for good and balanced

They aren’t luxurious army regiment

[stoic thorn]

Hotshot Volley guns seem to be of lesser quality than those used by scions

[frank basin]

Heavy stubber

[stoic thorn]

They're the most lauded regiment in the domain

[frank basin]

For cult one

[stoic thorn]

They get the most toys

[frank basin]

Yet no bolt weapon for among them

We see shotgunner and machine gunner

[stoic thorn]

Because bolt weapons are EXPENSIVE

Entire point of the infantry guard is that there are a lot of them

[frank basin]

They get most toys

[stoic thorn]

Like flamers

[frank basin]

Probably why bolt weapon are rare

[stoic thorn]

Grenades

[frank basin]

For them

[stoic thorn]

Bolt weapons are rare in general

They're meant for royalty outside of the SoB

[frank basin]

If rare why the shop on Morningstar selling us the bolt weapon lmao

[stoic thorn]

Because the people that house us are rich?

Plus we are the Inquisition

[frank basin]

Oh shit

That’s make the 6th poor?

[stoic thorn]

We get to have the GOOD SHIT

[stoic thorn]

Since they're heretics most of the Imperium doesn't want to sell them shit

Whatever real good shit they have they're not using it on us

Or they've lost it

[frank basin]

Why those heretic never salvage death corpses that carrying boltgun?

[stoic thorn]

They probably do

[frank basin]

It’s like their opportunity

To give some guy

[stoic thorn]

And those are being used against the 21st and 53rd

Or they DONT have the bolt ammo

Not enough bolt weapon specialists

[frank basin]

Yeah is why we stealing special ammunition on consign yard

[stoic thorn]

Special ammo could be like meltagun fuel

Shits not for us

[frank basin]

Yet we don’t have it

[stoic thorn]

Because meltaguns are HELLA expensive

[frank basin]

Guess we give to the actual Gaurdsmen

One special platoon

Or the space marine

[stoic thorn]

We salvage our weapons off battlefields across the Imperium

Meltaguns are a HARD FIND

[frank basin]

That’s quite lot big caplock

[stoic thorn]

They're insanely expensive

[frank basin]

Well yeah las weapon lore told powerful as fuck

[stoic thorn]

Most guard regiments can only afford a few

[frank basin]

Is like melta just a equivalent to rocket launcher in old world war

[stoic thorn]

Idk

[frank basin]

Yes it is

Rocket is like for one platoon squad carrying for specific role

Not a lot of them when tank come

World war 1 am talking

[stoic thorn]

Meltaguns are like

Two per company

Or some don't have any at all

[frank basin]

Yeah like rocket launcher squadron

[stoic thorn]

Plus we DONT NEED meltaguns

We don't face heretic armour

[frank basin]

Remember people want fight death guardmarine

[stoic thorn]

Whatever we are dealing with can be dealt with by bolt weapons or las weapons

[frank basin]

They want on zealot like total meta melta

[stoic thorn]

As far as I know the heretics don't HAVE a lot of armour

[frank basin]

They want use on boss specific

Because boss spawn are annoying

Specially two spawned

[stoic thorn]

The 6th are an Infantry regiment as far as I know

And the Monstrosities are the cults doing

[frank basin]

Imagine captian pull out melta pistol

[stoic thorn]

Those are HELLA HELLA expensive

[frank basin]

Say like 1% variant spawn

Lmao

[stoic thorn]

We could see sentinels and chimeras

That should be it from the 6th armoured bits

[dry cloak]

crushers and maulers beg to differ

[stoic thorn]

As in mechanised things

Shit with wheels

Proper armour

[dry cloak]

proper armour is bulwark shields. thing indestructable

[frank basin]

Melta weapon remind me the anti tank material rifle

[frank basin]

Well plasma go through it

Literally

[stoic thorn]

Unless the 6th are a Combined Regiment or there's a another heretic armoured regiment we shouldn't be seeing any Leman Russes from them

[frank basin]

Why the fuck plasma is so weak

Even it go through thing and is weakest use

[stoic thorn]

Low power shots I assume

[frank basin]

Volkite weapon in Darktide

[stoic thorn]

Considering we can fire the plasma without blowing up

[stoic thorn]

Volkites are fucking gone lmao

[frank basin]

Gone like old ancient weapon?

[stoic thorn]

The Primaris Astartes don't have any

Save for the volkite pistol

[dry cloak]

this is neo-volkite

[stoic thorn]

Yeah new shit

I believe the votann have Volkite weapons?

The custodes should have some too

But we don't have any

[dry cloak]

in boltgun we got volkite culiverin iirc

[frank basin]

Volkite pistol sized of space marine for human sized Volkite rifle

[stoic thorn]

The Guard HASNT have any

It's THAT expensive

[dry cloak]

stodes dont have volkite

[frank basin]

They have spearbolt

[stoic thorn]

Oh the custodes don't have volkite

Huh

[dry cloak]

yes a boltgun on a sharp stick

[frank basin]

Spearbolt lol

[stoic thorn]

Volkites are just really really rare in the 41st millennium

[frank basin]

Female stodus

Lol

[stoic thorn]

Guard completely doesn't have any

[dry cloak]

even when cawl made neo-volkite its like made on mars

[stoic thorn]

And they're really precious relics for space marines

[frank basin]

Looking space marine 2

They give Volkite pistol

[stoic thorn]

If this was the Heresy we'd have volkites

[dry cloak]

chapter master in crisis level of use

[frank basin]

Lmao

[dry cloak]

still is fairly small numbers

[stoic thorn]

We don't have a need for Meltaguns

We don't face armour that we need a meltagun to crack

[dry cloak]

sm2 maelta gun that kills hordes

XDDDDD

[stoic thorn]

The space marines can afford that we cant

Pretty sure that's the game version of a melta

[dry cloak]

i mean meltas should kill elites stupid fast

[stoic thorn]

Meltas in some artworks show it pissing out a solid line of flamr

[stoic thorn]

Meltas would just fucking evaporate crushers

[dry cloak]

yeah

[frank basin]

Is like max breakpoint for plasma

[dry cloak]

funni

[frank basin]

Plasma is a discount melta

[stoic thorn]

Ehhhh

[frank basin]

Why we keep blowing up

[stoic thorn]

Poor maintenance of the plasma gun

[frank basin]

Because we try deal 1650 dmg

[stoic thorn]

General misuse

[frank basin]

3 shot charge up

[stoic thorn]

Getting cursed by a psyker

Plus you're overcharging the thing

You're overheating the coils

[frank basin]

1650 dmg is so low I felt

[dry cloak]

kekback

[stoic thorn]

Once those coils overheat fully and explode

[frank basin]

Just 3x dmg

[stoic thorn]

YOUR SKIN WILL MELT OFF

[frank basin]

So funny to blow myself up on panic attacking

[stoic thorn]

The SUN is now DIRECTLY infront of you

Plasma explosions are extremely deadly

They'll kill a space marine

[dry cloak]

sun is a deadly lazer

sun is leaking sun is leaking sun is leaking

[stoic thorn]

Melta absolutely mangles armour

[frank basin]

We blown up and that deal 500 damage to crusher

[stoic thorn]

Plasma just brings down people like space marines

I'm pretty sure we don't even explode the plasma gun it's just a really fast vent or something

[frank basin]

Yeah when lasgun in lore powerful they told

[stoic thorn]

Lasgun can take off someone's arm in one shot

The only reason why they're so weak is that the Guard killed everything that died to a lasgun shot

[frank basin]

Like can damage space marine armor relatively little bit easier

Since their armor coated with steel and ceramic

I read some lore wiki said it produce 40,000(poghammer) joules

[limber pawn]

so I have a few question regarding to havoc

1. Do I lose rank if I stop playing for a week?

2. if I lose 3 times on my own map my rank demotes to 1 lower rank from my current? if so if I lose 3 times on someone else map do I still get demoted?

3. Once I reach to specific rank like lets say 20 if I lose my rank till 15 does others see my rank as 20(as highest reached) or my current rank which would be 15?

[frank basin]

Have you ask in general chat?

This place is dead already

[limber pawn]

I have not

should I try?

[frank basin]

Try it

[limber pawn]

okay

[frank basin]

Is active there

https://tenor.com/view/good-night-metro-2033-metro-exodus-metro-sweet-dreams-gif-5261264773773675639

[heavy rover]

1. I believe so, yes
2. If you lost your current assignment 3 times you get demoted. If you're playing on someone else's assignment and lost 3 times, you do not get demoted
3. The havoc rank that others see is the highest rank you completed. E.g. if you completed rank 40 then de-rank to 1 to grind for penance, others will still see your rank as rank 40

[limber pawn]

thank you for answering my questions thoroughly and a follow up question what is the penance for deranking?

[vernal trench]

U lose a rank a week if u dont play for a week

[grand perch]

Didn't it say 2 weeks of not playing?

[raw needle]

I mean yeah otherwise we wouldn't have it after getting back up

though they can still explode in lore it's not the case for darktide

[raw needle]

considering psyker and plasma share the same explosion, it would be fair to say that psyker just vents the warp

[grand perch]

Psyker blowing up should have a chance of spawning a beast of nurgle or chaos spawn

And if you're incredibly unlucky, a MrBeast of Nurgle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1337721850536529951/image.png?ex=67c81e0e&is=67c6cc8e&hm=8ee1324a27d503d7b06523f7c85b766835605faa5476cee204889aab1de629f3&

[frank basin]

Today I will eat psyker about blowing up

And if digest, I would win for 10,000 aquilias

[vernal ermine]

Didn't you want to go to bed?

[frank basin]

Got too hung up

[heavy rover]

The havoc helmet (50 havoc mission completions) and the havoc insignia (100 havoc mission completions), if I recall correctly

[limber pawn]

why wouldnt one join to another instead of demoting

[heavy rover]

Low level havoc is like playing heresy level

A lot easier to speed through missions, and you don't need to be at a 100% unlike higher level havoc

[vernal ermine]

What are the advantages of playing havoc ?

[tame lodge]

Skill check

They got the "don't get hit" turned up to 11 gave, them to melee enemies, doubled that and gave to the ranged enemies

[vernal trench]

real

[uncut pebble]

1, your rank deteriorates by 1 every week you do not play havoc.

2, losing someone else's assignment does not result in a demotion.

3, once you reach a clearance rank, others will see your rank as that one permanently through mods like true level, even if you drop below that rank.

Also, fun little interaction, let's say you clear havoc 40, and then you go on a horrendous losing streak. As long as this losing streak is before reset, you will be set back to 40, because it was your highest cleared assignment rank.

[faint beacon]

Fun fact if you clear maelstroms and your rank decays beyond let’s say 15 it’ll reset it to 16

I say this cause my ass got way too lazy to do clears for two weeks and learned that

[balmy flume]

Maelstroms are great instant rank tickets lol

[wheat stratus]

so true level masks decay, that explains stuff

[steep flower]

Like fresh perfume on a musky skin

[grand perch]

Papa Nurgle cares not whence the stink flows

[limber pawn]

thank you for the answer ^^

[balmy flume]

I do think Havoc runners should be honest with themselves if they haven’t touched the mode for a long time since clearing 40 from throne knows how long ago…

[faint beacon]

Well I mean it’s there to show if a person can actually complete H40

[sleek garden]

I've finished a hav40 once and haven't really played much havoc since

I feel like auric maelstrom is more fun usually

[vernal trench]

Everyone enjosy different things

[vernal trench]

Dont trust people with titles or levels they dont mean anything

Theres tons of dogshit true survivor title holders out there

Havoc forged u dont even need to consider being good since it really isnt even an achievement at all to beat a 40

[pseudo fiber]

I got havoc forged first week havoc was out and I'm still proud of that

[vernal trench]

Yea thats good cuz it was new

[unreal nova]

And I question why you would even want to play with me with how hard you hate bad players.

[vernal trench]

I dont when u run book

Thats why u dont see me in ur game

Im getting tired of havocs in general im just playing for rerolling thats it bow

Now

[faint beacon]

Poxbreaker is really the only “respectable” title

It’s 1 million kills just means you’ve played a bunch

[vernal trench]

Not really

Thats just playing a lot

Dont mean u can be even half decent

[faint beacon]

Notice it’s in quotes cause the player can still be dog shit

[vernal trench]

Titles are just rolling a bet

Sometimes true survivor holders are good most of the time they suck

Especially when they let u cheese it for months

[faint beacon]

90% of the time they’re ass

Lmao

I don’t trust True Survivor

[vernal trench]

Yep

[faint beacon]

I end up out living them at times

[gray finch]

Auric storm survivor

[faint beacon]

That’s even worse

[vernal trench]

Dont u love ass title holders

Guaranteed rage quitters

[unreal nova]

You could also get lucky and somehow get it in your first 5 auric mael by getting hard carried.

Without actually dying even.

[faint beacon]

Basically before it was bandaid fixed everyone basically cheesed it

Literally wouldn’t use any title beside reject back then

[vernal trench]

Rare moments of karien being karried

[unreal nova]

I did not. I just played with really good players.

[vernal trench]

Karien karrying as usual then

[faint beacon]

It’s truly the Maelstrom experience when you load in

Witness a bunch of new players die immediately

[vernal trench]

@hollow ibex u still need havoc 40?

[faint beacon]

And then you’re basically soloing 50% of the match

[vernal trench]

Na its the experience of seeing 10 different people join die and quit and repeat thats what makes auric maelstroms so funny

[faint beacon]

Make it 15

I’ve actually witnessed 15 people rotate in and out

[last marten]

when three people leave in one wave and immediate rejoins that go down again

[vernal trench]

Beautiful

[faint beacon]

Rinse repeat 4 times

[vernal trench]

How darktide was meant to be

[faint beacon]

Basically playing solo+ with occasional bot reinforcements

[vernal trench]

[gentle maple]

What’s a good boltgun blessing that’s not surgical to pair with pinning?

[hollow ibex]

At some point yeah

[hollow ibex]

Puncture

[gentle maple]

Nice thanks. I was thinking Shattering but maybe that’s overkill?

[vernal trench]

Just let me know when ur on

N ill see if i just happen to be rerolling maps then

[vernal trench]

I use shattering and puncture for mine

[uncut pebble]

For zealout, shattering puncture is BIS. For vet, pinning puncture is better, especially if you're running exe stance.

[supple stag]

Oy Vet chat, what blessings would go nicely on Bolt Pistol with Infiltrate WS build?

[vernal trench]

Puncture and the explosiin thing

[supple stag]

I have kraks though

[vernal trench]

Oh

[supple stag]

Puncture + Run N' Gun?

[vernal trench]

Someoen else will tell u cuz i dont use kraks they fall off hard the higher the difficulty

[supple stag]

Idk if I need crit blessings if already going WS

[supple stag]

I don't do havocs really so Kraks are fine

[uncut pebble]

If youre using ws then do puncture and deadly accurate.

[supple stag]

• pathing is convinent

[gentle maple]

Im a VoC pleb

[supple stag]

Bolter without Exe Stance is kinda xdd

[vernal trench]

Its good with anything tbf

Just ammo hungry

[vernal trench]

In havocs

[faint beacon]

Deadly Accurate is a bait blessing on Vet for Bolt pistol

Typically want to run like Punc Run and Gun or

Lethal Prox

[supple stag]

Lethal Prox is kinda meh for kraks

I'll test things out

[uncut pebble]

How so?

Hes using kraks, btw.

[faint beacon]

Doesn’t really effect major breakpoints

[uncut pebble]

...like?

[hollow ibex]

it's ok, i'm getting fucked by work anyway, didn't get to play at all yesterday lol

[faint beacon]

I’d say Run and Punc would be the safest combo with Kraks

[supple stag]

Deadly Accurate only does something with Exe Stance and +25% carapace, you can 2 shot crushers

[uncut pebble]

I would figure it would push into oneshot range of both shotgunners and gunners, as well as severely hurting ragers.

[faint beacon]

Puncture is making up for it that’s mainly why

[supple stag]

But eh, Unarmored + Maniac with regular crits already does me job, with a bit of bleed

[vernal trench]

Yea im getting tired of havocs as well so i wont even play as much anymore probably

[faint beacon]

Also DA is specifically used for crusher killing so I mean like unless you’re building for that type of build

Don’t really use it

[supple stag]

Nah, I have sword for that

I'll see Run N' Gun + Puncture tbh

See how it goes

[faint beacon]

Punc will make up for the smallest amount of damage you’ll need to kill with basically

[supple stag]

I won't be shooting a lot with it anyway

Infiltrate WS build goes brr

[faint beacon]

Added the fact that if you’re running Infil you don’t need to stop to shoot with Run

So it’ll literally encourage a constant movement type playstyle

[supple stag]

That's what I do, whenever doing Infiltrate

Always on move

[faint beacon]

Firing whilst sprinting my beloved

That and I don’t recall if it was the bonus damage whilst sprinting of if they’re close

Either way it gives bonus damage

[supple stag]

It's +15% close dmg while sprinting

[uncut pebble]

When run n gun allows reloading while sprinting I'll say it's a good blessing.

[faint beacon]

Very good on Bolt pistol

Run it with lethal prox build and it’s extremely helpful

[uncut pebble]

Well it's good in that it tightens spread, the damage part of it is basically useless though.

I would trade the damage part for reloading while sprinting in a heartbeat.

[supple stag]

It ain't a bad blessing, far from it

[surreal gust]

You also get better spread

[uncut pebble]

The only way I can really justify using the damage portion is if you drop a shredder and book it.

Cause, yknow, bleed.

[supple stag]

Grenade spam build is kinda silly when I used it

Shovel, Bolt Pistol and all grenade talents

ahh fun

[faint beacon]

If Punc actually procced from Lethals explosion

That unironically would be extremely powerful but a really cool synergy

Recall testing that day 1 only to be immediately disappointed lmao

[uncut pebble]

It would be broken as fuck.

Horde of dreg ragers instantly cooked by puncture and lethal prox.

[terse idol]

Doesn't it still help some bps if you just do the funny tap sprint shoot

[uncut pebble]

I doubt it.

[grand perch]

i ran out of ideas for interesting builds so i made a toughness regen meme instead

[uncut pebble]

Thanks, I hate it.

[grand perch]

combine with autopistol + inspiring barrage for optimal results

[hollow ibex]

vet medic build with born leader

[grand perch]

please stand by while the nurse is on her way

[faint beacon]

The rare usage of covering fire aka a medic build (it’s bad)

[granite pine]

how do you build the helbore lasgun?

[tame lodge]

Surgical Weight of Fire

Surgical Hotshot if mk5

[narrow frost]

[gritty fable]

just why vet skin has this strange placed knoife on the back, this thing clipping through every backpack, why it doesn't become invisible when backpack is on

[tropic halo]

Too complex - Fatshark probably

[tall torrent]

don't worry, almost every other upper body also clip with every backpack ever

[uncut pebble]

And almost every upper body clips with every helmet it isn't sold with.

There's a helmet with a blue scarf from commodore's vestures that clips with literally fucking everything.

It's so annoying.

[random marten]

For the helbore lasguns how many enemies does the hot-shot perk go through?

[tame lodge]

Who are you shooting?

Because it basically turns your 3 cleave into 6

So 6 Groaners

4 (?) 1,5 mass enemies

Two 4 mass

Well actually goes through one 4 mass and stops at the second

[tall torrent]

5 (1.25 mass each)

[void dragon]

Dumb question of the day would be "what would be a field medic Guardsman that doesn't suck?"

[ancient moss]

Any fellow veterans wanna help me get Resupplier?

[faint beacon]

One that's actually killing things

aka you just dont make the build

[void dragon]

I thought that a commander style with focus target and the healing pack that cures taint would be good for it

[ancient moss]

Please, by the emperor, I beg

[orchid hemlock]

What is the penance again?

[ancient moss]

Resply 5000 ammo for team mates

[tropic halo]

You just play the game normally and you get it eventually?

[orchid hemlock]

That's easy just play the game

Also you can speed it up with taking an ammo crate and throwing it down

[ancient moss]

Huh. Alr

[orchid hemlock]

Wait why where you struggling with it before?

Just take survivalist and play the game

Like I don't even think having other people play with you will increase the efficiency

[ancient moss]

You lied 🗣️

[terse idol]

frankly if you take VOC and tactical awareness

That's your most potent support build

And then upgraded medkit as a treat

Spamming VOC and killing alot of things to reset voc is the best support build vet has

Which... is also seemingly just standard gameplay

[vernal ermine]

i somehow did "on Overwatch"

[edgy charm]

Ahoy guys, can someone share a nice little Recon Exe Stance build?

[vestal widget]

5 points spare, can pick up wahtever you want and adjust to want you want the build to do

• demo team or demo stockpile (advisable to take at least one)
• onslaught if you have the fastest firing recon las and a yearning to shoot crushers
• whatever keystone you feel like
• superiority complex
• marksman (on ability use)
• close order drill + confirmed kill
• bring them down
• 5% crit is okay if you went for demo stockpile
• stam regen build

crit perk + flak probably
dumdum infernus (fast firing one, i forget what the numbers are after fs renumbered everything)
dumdum deathspitter
you can do headhunter but you can get quite a bit of crit from crit perk + reciprocity + maybe crit node

[edgy charm]

Big thanks, mate!

[vestal widget]

melee: whatever melee wep that doesn't require too much talent support to shine and can kill carapace reasonably okay (if you didn't take onslaught to shoot crushers) -

hf

[unreal nova]

Onslaught technically works with the green one as well. Don't ask me how I know.

[vernal trench]

Whats green

[edgy charm]

Thx for additional info, mates

[unreal nova]

Recon.

[vernal trench]

What green

[edgy charm]

medium one i guess

[unreal nova]

VLC.

[vernal trench]

Middle fast one?

Idk

[unreal nova]

VIc?

6c.

[vernal trench]

Thats the slower one that does more damage?

[unreal nova]

No, that's the brown.

[vernal trench]

Oh

[edgy charm]

fast is greenish blue

medius is green

[vernal trench]

I confuse

[edgy charm]

the last one is slow (no one uses, i guess)

[vernal trench]

Theres one thats slow and does more stagger and damage

Is good for havocs

[unreal nova]

Onslaught just works best with blue, but it can still work with the green one. And yes, been dooking around trying to psyker stam regen nonsense while doing penances.

[solar valve]

getting both or even one stam regen delay node is such a game changer

[unreal nova]

PsykerVet sliding around and regaining stam instead of using is funni.

[uncut pebble]

All guns follow a pretty simple color scheme if they've got 3 marks. Blue is the fast one, brown is the slow one, green is the middle ground.

[wheat stratus]

stagger on recon seemed a useless thing but in practice very annoying

bombers and trappers..etc. gets their shot off while you are beaming them right to their face

[uncut pebble]

Yeah, that's why you dump collateral on it.

Less stagger when you can't stagger anything anyway is fine.

[shadow dagger]

why do so many people say chaos spawn is the easiest monster to deal with

I like dealing w plogryn more

[broken spade]

I haven't seen many people say chaos spawn is the easiest. Usually it's plogryn

exceptions are when you have really good boss damage and can just nuke the cspawn cause it has lower hp

[gritty mural]

Chaos spawn is much more aggressive towards newer players

[shadow dagger]

I just don't like chaos spawn head hitbox

hate how the only way I seem to actually hit it is to specifically hit the metal plate on the top half of the little nub

[hollow ibex]

With cspawn I just spray, feels like a lost cause hitting the anus reliably

[tall torrent]

Chaos spawn is more unpredictable than plague ogryn and is significantly less predictable if ur teammates don’t know what to do and keep pulling aggro for no reason

[hollow ibex]

How does the aggro work? I thought it was just based on damage dealt

[tall torrent]

Total damage dealt

[hollow ibex]

Oh yeah ok

[tall torrent]

It overrides taunt aggro for example

So ogryn taunt cannot hold boss for long usually

The bad thing is when the aggro’d player keeps pulling away from team

Which lowers team dps

[hollow ibex]

Yeah definitely

[tall torrent]

A good team has players soloing chaos spawns which makes them far less dangerous

Even though they’ll push that player around more

[shadow dagger]

krak vet tossing three nades and holding rightclick + s key

[uncut pebble]

The best way to handle a cspawn is to have your best boss dps player get its attention and the rest of the team clear stuff so they can fight it unharrassed.

Though, imo, that's the best method for every boss, burgle aside.

Dh kinda wants the aggroed player to solo it because the attack hitboxes are rather large and can hit you even if you aren't the target.

And other players avoid corruption by letting them solo.

[hollow ibex]

I've been fucked by psykers that just keep dragging the DH they completely triggered into me

Just another reason to hate freaks

Trigger the DH? Do the team a solid and just fucking die please

[uncut pebble]

Honestly yeah if you can't solo a dh and you wake it, just put your guard down and let it kill you.

[shadow dagger]

what do i need to do to make db not feel like shit

i take agile engagement, out for blood, weapon spec, always prepared

this thing still feels like it fires birdshot

[austere mica]

What are you shooting at

Also what’s the perk blessing combo

[shadow dagger]

flakiac, manstopper run n gun

i tried manstopper flechette for a bit for funsies but that didnt feel great either

basically anything past like 4m

[austere mica]

I can send my build in a bit but that’s basically what I run

[sinful swallow]

This is the way with weapon spec, try the both barrels reload speed and focus target otherwise

The man stopper flechette is gonna more soften up entire hallways for melee, the focus target both barrels are if you want to start gibbing elites/spec/bosses with violence

[hollow ibex]

This is what I do

With WS like Tresdin said

I don't think DB does well without WS

[austere mica]

Soften up? It kills them

[hollow ibex]

With WS it's a beast

You can actually counter snipe specialists like snipers and bombers if you have a crit stored up

And it just wrecks hordes

[native kelp]

I have a question, i just joined the server and havnet read if this has been asked yet, but am i crazy for thinking the combat shotgun should have more ammo, like what does it do better than the boltor to have less ammo

[shadow dagger]

got a couldnt connect w fatshark notice, restarted my game twice until it went away, and now i drop most of my frames if i look at an open space

[junior grail]

I saw a YouTube build with Armourbane on Helbore, thoughts?

[hollow ibex]

Combat Shotgun should have more of many things

They're just bad atm

[native kelp]

ok cool thats what i was thinking, its the only gun i use and i have tried making a couple of different builds to see how it feels

[hollow ibex]

The most non memey CS is the slug one. The others are just funny memes if even that

[native kelp]

wish that at the least the special action for the shotguns would be nice but other than the slug one it feels horrible

[hollow ibex]

If you want a shotgun with some facial hair, use the double barrel

[native kelp]

NO

only pump action shotguns for me

[hollow ibex]

Prepare to suffer

[native kelp]

its semi/pump ill take what i can get

[fallow beacon]

never used it myself, helbore can already 1-2 shot a crusher with surgical

[hasty grove]

Ive been making an effort to improve my melee

Any input on how Im doing? I felt really good about this in the moment

[pallid jetty]

if you take less damage/dont take damage at all - then you are doing amazing

[hasty grove]

Tyy

That’s admittedly my biggest problem

I get way too into it and forget I have a health bar…

[austere mica]

You're a bit too focused on just fighting things

You walk past the objective right next to you 2-3 times or go run off to stab something

[hasty grove]

Im usually not like that, I was focused on trying to put my melee merit to the test

Btw I wasnt throwing, my teammates didn’t have an issue when I asked if they minded if I focused on melee practice

[tall torrent]

movement can use a bit more work but foundation not bad

are you playing on a lower FOV?

[hasty grove]

Whatever the standard is

[tall torrent]

turn it up to max, might help

[void dragon]

YAY!

[wild vortex]

Why is the map so empty

[austere mica]

Low diff

[tropic halo]

Perfect to do some good headbangs with the song

[thick rose]

is one shock maul mark better than the other?

[dry cloak]

Both are good

Depends on what moveset you want

[thick rose]

mk la has a simpler chain looking at the hammer guide?

[dry cloak]

Thats the agni or munitorum one

I use both

Both have same horde clear combo

Move wise iirc

[dry cloak]

Sure fire way to check wich one you like is play 3 games with each mark

[cobalt lance]

Who came up with the stoopid kill zone perk

When in darktide do you not have enemy as close as 8 meters?

Oof it makes me so mad

Mad I say!!!!

[unreal nova]

Befriend 3 tauntgryn players. Nothing more.

[cobalt lance]

The whole talent tree is poop

Wow makes enemies glow superpower

So useful

At least grenade perks and screaming ability are good

[dry cloak]

You sound like a zealot main that rushes ahead, dies and leaves

[unreal nova]

Just need to make it actually wallhack, is it?

[tame lodge]

Bro's not aware of the hidden bonuses granted by exec stance

.....

Well

[dry cloak]

But shout tje beeeeeeest

[hasty grove]

You use shout because its ridiculously good

I use shout cus I like the voicelines

[dry cloak]

I dont use shout

[steep flower]

Me neither

[unreal nova]

Shout lines best. Though Loose cannon just being loose cannon.

[tame lodge]

🗣️

[hasty grove]

My cadian lady sounds genuinely unhinged

[unreal nova]

At least she is quiet.

[hasty grove]

The forces of chaos watching the 5’3 Cadian womanlet screaming nonsense at them while frothing at the mouth

[unreal nova]

The male Cadian is Cadia this, Cadia that.

[hasty grove]

Don’t you know? As a Cadian it’s a stipulation on our birth certificate that every other sentence MUST be about Cadia

[hasty grove]

Also, I disagree lol

Fem Cadian with one of the those helmets with the face covering that changes your voice makes her LOUD

[unreal nova]

I don't use helmets. I got a totally not stolen (lore wise) commissar hat.

[hasty grove]

My reject’s lore is deliberately uninteresting

[viscid sparrow]

btw, I feel like vet stealth is very good for doing "carry something to somewhere" finales (maybe even better than having an ogryn do it)

[hasty grove]

Idris Varn was born on Cadia and fought in it’s fall. She was wounded and fled before the planet imploded and she later turned herself in out of shame. Hence how shes a reject now

[unreal nova]

I'm boring. I just play a half mad gremlin who really, REALLY loves explosions.

[tame lodge]

Play your cards right and you'll have 18 seconds of uninterrupted carrying

But Bull Rush into cancel into picking up into sprinting is pretty fast

[hasty grove]

Idris has a Napoleon complex, which is a sizable reason why shes so insatiably ANGRY

[viscid sparrow]

especially if running the "speed boost & stun immunity on ult" node from later down in the ogryn tree

[unreal nova]

Sizeable, heh.

[tame lodge]

Then get another psyker carrying
The stamina Regen means pushing more often

[hasty grove]

Glad my pun didnt go over anyone’s head

[unreal nova]

Or some dumb vet build with the 2 regen delay things.

[tame lodge]

Dedicated vacuum capsule carrying build

[unreal nova]

It works with recon kinda.

Do not question why, all it is is penances.

[viscid sparrow]

I myself don't really RP, so I just name my characters something funny (my vet is called ItchyTriggerfinger, for example).

the only one with an actual name is my ogryn, and even then I just named him after the king of all ogres from Warhammer Fantasy (Greasus Goldtooth), and only because I couldn't figure out any funny joke "names" for an ogryn...