veteran-class

[vernal trench]

Roughly how many hits for a crusher

[crisp oak]

Guess it shows how feelings arent objective

[tall torrent]

[calm shard]

folding shovel is 1 special heavy and 1 special light

or just special light, light 3/4, push attack, and light once more

[hollow ibex]

Maybe I'll be desperate enough to try it again

[calm shard]

it's relatively fast

[vernal trench]

Why so desperate

[crisp oak]

Mind you the horde clear isnt terrible

And you have good block/dodge

[calm shard]

though with thrust this can easily just outright one shot a crusher

[hollow ibex]

For low melee investment builds

And I don't want to run DS

[vernal trench]

Hm

[crisp oak]

Mk7 oneshots with cara, thrust, and tag

Or uncanny strikes

[vernal trench]

Powersword

Its so fun to use

[hollow ibex]

Now that I've tried relic blade I can't go back to PS

[crisp oak]

With how the math is, I think it can oneshot havoc crushers with max uncanny stacks and tag

[vernal trench]

Lmfao

[ocean ferry]

what should i put on the spearhead boltgun mk2b?

[vernal trench]

Thats a lotta investment just for a shovel tho

[hollow ibex]

Don't judge 😭

[crisp oak]

Eh, I run it on my helbore build

[vernal trench]

I mean oowersword hits pretty hard

And its fun to work around the powerup movement

[crisp oak]

It needs pretty much the same things as the shovel

[calm shard]

shovel swings really fast having max uncanny stacks isn't a super bi ask

[vernal trench]

Yea but i prolly cant run it on mine sadly

[hollow ibex]

Well I played PS a LOT a few months ago. We're just taking some time off from each other

[crisp oak]

Probably not unless you go for bring them down

I also do not run trench fighter

[calm shard]

you don't need tag for it btw

[vernal trench]

Im in my powersword phase

[crisp oak]

Yeah tag lets you skip uncanny stacks

[tame lodge]

Cara + Unyielding
Shattering + Puncture
Screw that boss in particular

[vernal trench]

tbh i realized im just slowly going back into whatever i was using before havics came out

[calm shard]

this screenshot is with only superiority comple, precision strikes, and desperado

also no thrust

[vernal trench]

Yea i got no points for that

I dont even have points for elite damage

[crisp oak]

My goal was to have a fast setup onetap

[ocean ferry]

ty

[vernal trench]

Shout ds plasma gun

[crisp oak]

Without tag, I needed uncanny stacks to get a consistent 1tap, I was getting like 20 hp left

Wothout uncanny stacks without crit

[vernal trench]

Carapace + elite?

[crisp oak]

With tag I am unsure if you need elite

[vernal trench]

Hmm

[crisp oak]

Maybe for h40

[vernal trench]

Tbh i never use tag

[crisp oak]

Im not at my pc so cant try it out rn

[vernal trench]

It feels like so jank having to tag everything one by one

[crisp oak]

I like it for a quick toughness gen option

See crusher, tag, onetap, everyone gets toughness

[vernal trench]

How much do u get for it

[crisp oak]

Not a lot

[calm shard]

well Mk1 shovel can 4 tap them with a headshot special, 2 push attacks and a light

[vernal trench]

5%?

10%

[crisp oak]

But its teamwide

5

5% toughness and stam

[vernal trench]

He gonna die by boredom in havocs before i kill him with ghat

[crisp oak]

To the group

[vernal trench]

Hmmm

[crisp oak]

Its a jank build for some jank weapons

[vernal trench]

I aint got enough points for it anyway

[calm shard]

it takes maybe 3 seconds

[crisp oak]

Thing is hellbore kills everything else in one shot other than dreg ragers, muties, reapers, and carapace

[vernal trench]

Its a lot if im tryna fight 10 crushers and whatever is behind him thi

[crisp oak]

And dreg ragers can be staggered easily with the bayonet

[vernal trench]

The build i got which ill never run cuz i cant clutch shit on it can just 1 tap everything pretty much

but its so weak at survivability i aint bringing it

[crisp oak]

My clutchability with the hellbore is locked at heresy and below

At least assuming everyone is dead dead

[vernal trench]

I used it once in an auric maelstrom hard carrying

Everyone wiped and i cant do shit cuz the survivability is too low

[crisp oak]

This build also uses shout

So yeah

[vernal trench]

Little to no toughness regen if i need to run for my life

Mine uses exec stance

[crisp oak]

Yeah figured with what you were saying

[vernal trench]

Yea its fun but aint fun if everyones dead

[agile forge]

I do love exec stance

[vernal trench]

Me too

[crisp oak]

I hate it

[vernal trench]

Juet can never bring it

[agile forge]

I don't need toughness, I need to become DOOMGUY

[crisp oak]

I'm a zealot with survivalist

Shout crutch is in my blood

[vernal trench]

Man i hate shout

[crisp oak]

I love it

It lets me play like a monkey

Rushing in, and adding it into my rotation

[formal ice]

You don't like being over shield?!1?1!1?1? Burn des man!

[crisp oak]

Hit hit, dodge, hit hit, dodge, push, hit hit, shout

[warm bolt]

What are the blessings/perks/mark of a combat axe?

[hollow ibex]

Check pins

[formal ice]

A horde of mutant are charging at you and you use shout to stop all of them

[crisp oak]

Or I see the poor psyker getting fucked in the corner, run over and shout to put the enemies on their ass

[crisp oak]

This too

[hollow ibex]

I use until with tdr

[unreal nova]

Nu. We playing APAC.

[warm bolt]

Oh right

[hollow ibex]

Shout at home

[steep flower]

You hurt my little feelings...

[unreal nova]

Playing with friend.

[crisp oak]

My goofy hellbore mk7 shovel build

[tropic halo]

Nah let them come to me, I will solo them all

[vernal trench]

Id let all of them grab my booty

They can manhandle me one by one until im down on my knees

[formal ice]

Gets thrown around like a basket ball

[tropic halo]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hogan-hulk-hogan-pikachu-listen-gif-8967823646459348771

[vernal trench]

[calm shard]

all this shit and I still need 5 MF stacks to one shot a crusher with a helbore shot

Is it worth it?

[vernal trench]

No

[calm shard]

though I imagine being able to more reliably hit that one shot crusher/mauler breakpoint with the helbore would be kinda bad for the game

[terse idol]

Brutal momentum, head taker, carapace, unarmoured

With maximum damage stats

Mobility dump

And trench fighter talent

For QOL

[narrow frost]

[hollow ibex]

Just do FT lol

[wanton dawn]

Finally brough my ws plasma/ps build in h40

Boy it hit HARD

[supple laurel]

john warhammer, a classic

[last marten]

i went through 500k looking for the perfect blasma 🫄🥹

[vernal trench]

Bro

[hollow ibex]

That's nothing for rolling plasma

[slow sky]

#veteran-class message

[grand perch]

500 damage but sniper doesnt die, love rounding

[pseudo fiber]

the mk4 bayonet sucks is a universal constant like the sky being blue

[tall torrent]

what does that skin look like

[terse idol]

Is this... the titan fall dmr?

[grand perch]

golden

the sights are not original

[tall torrent]

show

[grand perch]

OG are misaligned

[tall torrent]

what does that skin's base sights look like

[pseudo fiber]

I think the stock is wrong

[grand perch]

oh right, it is

forgot about that

[tall torrent]

better than base, I'll take it when it comes out

[pseudo fiber]

Fuck

god I'm turbo coping over Vostroyan forever dude

[tall torrent]

I'll prob get most of Vostroyan weapon skins

model too good

[pseudo fiber]

We've only really seen 2

which is the flamer and helbore

[pseudo fiber]

oh btw is that base weapon customisation no add ons?

[grand perch]

i think its just base, but i do have the no sights plugin

[pseudo fiber]

hrm well

that's good news

[grand perch]

but since no sight is default, i dont think that matters

[pseudo fiber]

either way I'm guessing brass (it's kinda brass coloured) bolt pistol and chainsword too

[pseudo fiber]

I've seen a version of this with a little logo put on the barrel but I'm assuming that was just done custom at this point

[cloud thunder]

am i crazy or iis something really wonky with servers today

[grand perch]

youre crazy

[hollow ibex]

I was getting 130 ping in my home regions servers last night

[cloud thunder]

nott just ping

i legit have mobs frozen but i can still move around then a miinute later, i'm low hp or downed

[calm shard]

do what now

[unreal nova]

SEA is fine.

[terse idol]

It sounds like your internet is getting throttled

Its rubber banding

[wanton dawn]

Bro

[hollow ibex]

Focus target. Don't need MF for one shotting crushers

[calm shard]

?

[cloud thunder]

Nah all my friends are having this issue

[calm shard]

build completely unchanged aside from moving the MF keystone over to FT instead

like with 8 stacks yeah it one shots

but 5 doesn't

[vernal trench]

All ur friends internets throttling

[wanton dawn]

One day i might try a mf plasma/ps build. Just to raise eyebrows

It'd be so bad though

[hollow ibex]

#veteran-class message

[calm shard]

or

[vernal trench]

Mf is constant stacks tho

[calm shard]

hear me out

I can use MF and kill more than one

[vernal trench]

Why switch to ft

Yea

Just keep mf

[hollow ibex]

Nah

[vernal trench]

Yes

[hollow ibex]

FT is way easier

[calm shard]

instead of using focus target, the worlds shittiest least interesting keystone in existence

[hollow ibex]

Don't need to baby stacks

[vernal trench]

U gotta press another button to tag

[hollow ibex]

Cope and crabwalk more

[calm shard]

I don't crabwalk because I can aim

[hollow ibex]

Nah. Mod.

[calm shard]

I will just headshot a poxwalker or 2 if need be

[vernal trench]

Gay

[hollow ibex]

No u

[vernal trench]

True

[wanton dawn]

Mf is better for your dmg but ft is still better teamwise

[calm shard]

or y'know given brute conscript I'll just go one shot a bulwark/reaper to get stacks to one shot the crusher lmao

[calm shard]

why would I care about my team they're all using dueling swords and losing 1v1s to poxwalkers\

[hollow ibex]

It doesn't even matter for damage when you reach the point of one shotting crushers

[vernal trench]

Fyck the team

[hollow ibex]

Do that three times and by that time I wouldve killed all the crushers

[wanton dawn]

Cuz ft is also better utility, thoughness, stam regen and works in melee

For you included

[hollow ibex]

Yeah I mean it's not even up for debate

[vernal trench]

Alt f4 wins

[calm shard]

I don't care about any of that I want to one shot multiple crushers by myself

[hollow ibex]

FT is stronger

[calm shard]

not for what I want to do it fucking isn't

[hollow ibex]

Nah

Still is

[vernal trench]

Alt f4

[wanton dawn]

What alt f4 does ?

[hollow ibex]

Instawin

[vernal trench]

Lets u instantly win and get all the rewards

Try it

[wanton dawn]

Am on phone though

Lemme see

[vernal trench]

Throw it against the wall

Itll drop gold coins

[wanton dawn]

Â̴͉l̴̤͒ţ̵̓+̸͔͐f̷͎̀4̷̡̍

Its weird

[vernal trench]

Try it a couple more times

[wanton dawn]

Ǎ̸̊ḻ̵͘ẗ̵͇+̶͖͒f̶̐́4̵͓̋

I think it is corrupting smth

[vernal trench]

Na

Just illusions

Keep trying

[wanton dawn]

ȟ̸̝ɟ̷͑͜+̴̖͛ʇ̵̥͝ʅ̷̿͜Ɐ̴͉̔

Am scared now

[quartz nymph]

calling the warp

[oblique totem]

Stop that

[tall torrent]

nah MF is needed

[hollow ibex]

I got one shot at 3 stacks of FT

[wanton dawn]

Ḫ̶͠Ẽ̴̦L̵͙͝P̶̽͘ ̸̽̍M̶͋͝Ȅ̸

Damn

There is a limit

[oblique totem]

Best I can do is a strategically placed krak grenade

[unreal nova]

Am free now. Heh. Friend went to bed.

[steep flower]

join us now!

[solar monolith]

Twinned Blast my beloved

[steep flower]

https://discord.gg/g2FN8TeW

[tawny badger]

"A displeasing enemy advantage!"
the enemies .05 seconds ago:

https://tenor.com/view/jackass-3d-couch-explosion-gif-25176966

[tawny badger]

mutie flight lessons

[willow canyon]

Rock make a friend

[latent parcel]

no fair! u get to witness karien's legendary 1.5mil book zealot

[steep flower]

i already did

acuall pogryn

[tawny badger]

this man above me

emote him

[tropic halo]

https://tenor.com/view/goedulf-nexter-darktide-stare-warhammer-gif-17820373588181746257

[shadow dagger]

burgles have a lockout timer for the stomp right

like it cant do two of em too close together?

"stomp" lmao

same deal

[frank basin]

@radiant chasm

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jCoHmNDXrKMWNJAzP?invite=cr-MSxVc0ksMTA3NDAxNTczLA

[peak venture]

Does anyone have a link to a good havoc build so I can have an idea of what I'm farming for

[tropic halo]

lmao wtf

That flamer be kinda moonwalkin

[faint beacon]

Slides in doing a panic animation

Doesn’t elaborate

Fucking explodes killing his teammates

[grand perch]

moonwalk you say?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1335318959540666439/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2025-02-01_19-38-19.mp400.00.05.99900.00.10.013.mp4?ex=67a25f30&is=67a10db0&hm=f7acaf0ed8f3317fdcf02790b913fcb62b0acd823dcd2f4f08285c42bf502a02&

[faint beacon]

Flamers everyone

[radiant chasm]

Me on veteran

[frank basin]

Ferret soldier ferret soldier ferret soldier

[vernal crag]

hi

[latent parcel]

@steep flower you playing some high havocs or what

[hollow ibex]

Depends

With serrated blade it's uncanny and mercy

[void dragon]

That crusher put to much butter on his shoes

[left cape]

Noob here at lvl 21, what ability do you recommend to use with focus target ? Using invisibility atm but not sure about its usefulness in a group

[hollow ibex]

Voice of command is the easiest way to get started with vet

Take the left subnode

That gives over toughness

[orchid hemlock]

I never liked vet stealth

takes too long to get back

but maybe thats because im spoiled with zealot 😔

[wild vortex]

I just hate stealth period

[terse idol]

An addition to what sirosky told ya

Don't take revive

On voc

And take tactical awareness

[hollow ibex]

I find myself not needing it usually tbh

So it's generally up when I do need it

[steep flower]

2 tired now

[supple laurel]

why is it a helbore that looks like a recon

no

[unreal nova]

Nu, just dragging the resident heresy player through brutes and such. While just derping around.

[latent parcel]

😔

[unreal nova]

You never wanted to do it so...

[latent parcel]

i wasnt on!

[unreal nova]

Still, you are like, Auric boring. Havoc40 only.

[latent parcel]

Ya you right

[unreal nova]

So there.

[latent parcel]

i woulda done brutes but you dont ask 😛

also how did ur high havocs go? you play any

[unreal nova]

Not this week. I don't like doing havocs till I get my 40 done for the week tbh.

[latent parcel]

oh are you done this week alrdy?

[unreal nova]

No.

[latent parcel]

D:

[unreal nova]

Chaos only carry runs on weekends.

[latent parcel]

papa willy carry

[unreal nova]

You mean you?

[latent parcel]

is my name papa willy?

[unreal nova]

No, but still.

2 carries better than 1.

[latent parcel]

id have to play knife zealot i think

[unreal nova]

Hrm?

[latent parcel]

or scier psyker

[unreal nova]

Also, who was it that wanted proof of gambling with downs with my Zealot build?

[latent parcel]

No idea

why is my ogryn getting denied in 40's

😔

[unreal nova]

Or ehm, they can't even dooking wound me so I just go down instead of die.

Was it Chonky?

@vernal trench Was it you who wanted like proof about my stupid build that will down me instead of kill me if I get overheaded?

While doing TS?

[unreal nova]

Aren't you playing with LFG?

[latent parcel]

Ya i just joined a lobby

[vernal trench]

Yes

[unreal nova]

Check DMs.

Me smurt, yes. Some will say dying instantly is better.

[faint beacon]

Iron will allowing you to eat overheads

[unreal nova]

No. Zealot things.

[narrow frost]

Iron will is a vet talent

[faint beacon]

Something undying or whatever the fuck the talent is where you just don’t die

[narrow frost]

until death

[faint beacon]

I don’t play zealot enough

[unreal nova]

Yes, but that still means your HP is corrupted to 1.

[faint beacon]

1 HP

[unreal nova]

The overhead couldn't even wound me with corruption.

[faint beacon]

Salvageable

I’d assume it’s also the TDR + DR talents

[unreal nova]

55 toughness, 224 HP at that point.

I took about a third of my HP in corruption.

Which went away while I was panicking.

[tall torrent]

No

[faint beacon]

VOC + IW

[tall torrent]

That’s gold toughness doing the job

Unrelated to iron will

[unreal nova]

No gold toughness.

The gold toughness came AFTER the overhead.

[tall torrent]

Then u have other sources of DR

Iron will by itself is nowhere enough to tank overhead

[unreal nova]

45% corruption resist, lul.

[tall torrent]

it's ~38.6% total

[unreal nova]

Ah. But yeah, it's just HP + corruption resist.

Yes, game was super spicy.

[vernal trench]

I get whwt u mean now

[unreal nova]

To be fair, we gave up on TS that day since server was bad.

[vernal trench]

F

[unreal nova]

But yeah, 2 HP for like 4 mins lul.

[unreal nova]

I dunno, but DMed it.

[vernal trench]

she didnt tank it

it was until death

[tall torrent]

yea ik

idk why that turned to iron will

TDR doesn't affect corruption

[vernal trench]

she said she has corruption resistance

[unreal nova]

Yes, it was more, you wanted to know if I could eat a crusher overhead without straight up dying. Assuming no or on CD Until death, the amount of corruption damage would just only down me instead of outright kill.

[vernal trench]

have u tested this

[void dragon]

what are the best secondary stats on curios for a veteran?

[unreal nova]

Pretty hard to unless someone wants to sacrifice their 40.

I just assumed I have enough HP to take it since I was dropped to 2 HP over the usual 1.

[vernal trench]

its 2 hp alot of the times instead of 1

i highly doubt u can tank an overhead and not straight die

[unreal nova]

Shrugs.. I usually thought people died cos the corruption puts them to less than 1 wound.

Or well, instantly fills the bar in cases.

So if you took less than a full wound of corruption, you should just go down instead?

[vernal trench]

dont know

but if u aint an ogryn ur not tanking a full overhead

[unreal nova]

That was to be expected. Is why I'm just wondering if my build will just cause a down over death.

Because I have seen others eat an overhead with Until Death and was left at 1 HP and everything else corrupted.

[vernal trench]

who knows

fgo try it

[obtuse elm]

Should I use the mk7 vigilant or mk4 helbore

[unreal nova]

Auric, use anything. Whatever you feel comfortable with.

[hollow ibex]

Two very different guns tbh

[rustic beacon]

Combination preference varies but all of these are good: cooldown reduction, hp, toughness, gunner res, stam regen, sprint efficiency

[void dragon]

Have a question, how easy is it for you to land headshots with the hellbore lasgun? I have quite a bit of trouble landing shots that don't end up being body shots that I aimed too low, and also: isn't the weapon a little too ammo efficient? I think I had troubles running out of ammo, at least in auric missions

[obtuse elm]

Pretty easy

[hollow ibex]

Fairly easy, its mainly about dealing with the shit irons

And the ammo economy is intentional

[void dragon]

Really, guess I'm really not built for sniper work, really suffering to land headshots

[hollow ibex]

HP toughness sprint eff ordo dockets gunner/sniper resist

[obtuse elm]

Honestly I like the irons on the hellbore

[hollow ibex]

Servers can also be jank

[hollow ibex]

I missed the p2w helbore skin that gave good irons

Reeeee

[obtuse elm]

I just use the mk4

[hollow ibex]

Same

It's OK

[obtuse elm]

Honestly I’ve always preferred iron sights in games rather than optics

[hollow ibex]

Could be much better though

[obtuse elm]

Besides snipers I barely ever put scopes on my weapons

[unreal nova]

This is just taste. i prefer a proper scope.

Or something that looks kinda like one.

[obtuse elm]

Also depends on the game cuz if its insurgency sandstorm I’ll put a scope

[obtuse elm]

Give it a holo sight

Something simple like just a plastic square with a dot in the middle

[void dragon]

I was trained irl to put the target above the aim sights, it really mess up the wiring on my brain

[unreal nova]

Basically.

You know the 1.5x scopes in Payday?

[obtuse elm]

Simple and unobtrusive

Never played pay day

[hollow ibex]

OKP-7 my beloved

[unreal nova]

Well, 2.

[obtuse elm]

Fr

Love that style

[hollow ibex]

Yeah simple, clear picture without massive housing

Fantastic cqc sight

[obtuse elm]

Yeah I hate the optics that are just a big ass square block

Irl iron sights suck but love them in video games

[hollow ibex]

Unless they're AR iron sights

Video games suck at that

[faint beacon]

DMR and Snipers with actually good irons for some fucking reason

[unreal nova]

Biometric Analyzer Optic in Payday 2.

If you can find pics of it.

Basically the scope I use on everything except actual snipers.

[obtuse elm]

Real

[faint beacon]

LMGS are completely hit or miss

[unreal nova]

I can't find pics of it that isn't the straight up store page of the DLC pack.

Ah, it's a 1.25x scope.

Basically red dot.

[tawny timber]

nuh uh

simo hayha disagrees

[obtuse elm]

Any damage reduction perks in curio worth it besides gunners and snipers?

And what other perks in general

[tropic notch]

For me just gunners I wouldn’t run snipers

[faint beacon]

Snipers are incredibly situational but gunners are actively helpful

Outside of that not really

[hollow ibex]

I think sniper is worth taking one of

[faint beacon]

You really only run corruption resist in like Havoc

But ehh

[hollow ibex]

Wouldn't do more than that

[obtuse elm]

Mostly did toughness related stuff obviously as a veteran

Took stamina and sprint

Cdr

[hollow ibex]

Stamina regen isn't really worth it

Same with cdr outside of havoc

[tall torrent]

Stamina regen not super useful for veteran unless u take specific talents

[void dragon]

How I know what and in what amount a weapon scales with finesse damage?

[analog mural]

Inspect the weapon, check the damage table for normal damage vs weakspot damage

[void dragon]

The difference is what's finesse damage? Weakspot extra damage?

[tall torrent]

The difference is the “bonus damage on weakspot/crit/crit weakspot”

Which is what finesse related damage bonuses scale from

[analog mural]

When people talk about finesse in this game they could be referring to a couple things. Generally finesse is Crit/weakspot damage, but it could also be the finesse stat on a weapon which affects those numbers aswell as attack speed

[void dragon]

So the stacked marksman focus increases that damage, keep the base but once you crit/WP hit you deal a % more?

[analog mural]

Yes

[tall torrent]

I’ll give u an example

Let’s say u have a gun that does
300 base damage
900 total damage on crit-weakspot hit

If u have
Marksman Focus (10 stacks)
Deadly Accurate IV
Precision Strikes

You now deal a total of 2130 damage on crit-weakspot hit

If the number in dW, dC and dCW is big, the weapon is good finesse scaling

[void dragon]

I will try this formula to check some weapons for it then, thanks

[faint beacon]

No more Crit Damage. This ape only wants Finesse damage!

Finesse really can just boost some rifles up to ludicrous damage numbers

[tall torrent]

Do note that finesse is just one of many damage modifying effects

Other damage bonuses don’t work the same way finesse does

[void dragon]

So wait, the hellbore Mk V has lower finesse than the vigilant or infantry guns? I have been living a lie?

The point of that weapons isn't weakspot damage but it's good damage to down targets even on bodyshots and armor piercing?

[visual badge]

is 10 stacks of MF enough, or if I can pick up 15 stacks, should I?

[tall torrent]

no

[visual badge]

@tall torrent also does o4b just give flat 5% toughness?

[tall torrent]

those are 2 other high finesse guns
also worth noting, a weapon may have different d? values against different armor types

[tall torrent]

5% from every kill
upgrades melee kills to be 10%/kill

[tall torrent]

15 stacks feels better for faster weapons
camouflage feels better for slower weapons

[void dragon]

Yeah, hellbore seems like a can opener in comparison

[visual badge]

so mk iv (the slow firing one, I think is the mk) should have camouflage?

[tall torrent]

imo, anyway

[hollow ibex]

40 percent toughness recovery from a single swing

[void dragon]

The ogryn melee experience

[hollow ibex]

Except vet can attack way faster than ogryn

[void dragon]

They are allowed to light attack, ogryn doesn't have that luxury

[hollow ibex]

Yeah basically

[terse idol]

Well which is fine bullygryn be making

ALOT OF TOUGHNESS

[pseudo fiber]

fucking helbores how do they work

[visual badge]

hold right click

charge

aim at enemy head

dead

[void dragon]

If not ogryn or caparace sometimes clicking on head is optional, my biggest issue is landing bodyshots, but that still set me eliminating most enemies that don't need bayonet treatment

[visual badge]

you can pretty much oneshot anything with helbore with good build

its glass cannon build

[pseudo fiber]

Well I'm open to suggestions build wise because yeah

I still don't like it that much

[visual badge]

exe stance + mf is good idea

I mainly run the heavy helbore

10 mf and exe with heavy helbore one shots crushers

I run it with counterfire to also target enemy ranged

[pseudo fiber]

Something like this?

[visual badge]

yeah thats what I run

[void dragon]

In my experience the crouching node isn't that great, particularly because if you headshot kill enemies you can move freely with ease

[visual badge]

actually I run 15 stacks

but you can also just take the base option

use that point somewhere else if you need it

it's really up to preference

15 stacks or camo

[void dragon]

For executioner stance only the counter fire node?

[visual badge]

you cant take ogryn with counter fire

and the aura share is not bad

buut with randos probs not

if you have a premade, it can be good info

[hollow ibex]

I run focus target

[visual badge]

bear in mind it will only share elites

(I think)

idk if the aura share also accounts your upgrades

before I ask the guy

let me consult the holy scriptures

[tall torrent]

None

None of them are necessary

Exe stance works without any subnodes

[visual badge]

if you want to actually be decent teammate

counter fire is good for being the anti ranged guy

trust me in auric damnation and havoc (most likely) you'll have a lot of ranged

[void dragon]

Really? So you sustain it by killing elites with tactical awareness?

[visual badge]

yeah only elites and specialists

[tall torrent]

No point sustaining it for minutes on end

Because marksman is strength on using ability

U keep it running when u need to

And reactivate when u need to

[visual badge]

I would concur being able to see auras is worth it

info is strong

[tall torrent]

Team share vision is strong
For vent purge and lights out

And premade

[visual badge]

talking about counterfire I mean

[tall torrent]

But it very heavily depends on ur ability to kill outlined enemies before ur team does

As for counter-fire

[visual badge]

you'd be surprised by how many vets do not actually kill ranged

[tall torrent]

I don’t think it matters that much personally

[visual badge]

they play them like zealots

a lot of missions would end up failure if I wasn't the anti ranged vet

[tall torrent]

Because ranged horde enemies are not challenging enough outside of havoc

[visual badge]

you would GENUINELY be surprised

[hollow ibex]

Nah fuck team sharing vision

[visual badge]

in the rando matches I had

[hollow ibex]

Gimping yourself

[tall torrent]

I wouldn’t be surprised

[visual badge]

if I did not run counterfire, we would just end up failing

[tall torrent]

But I also wouldn’t think about it much

It’s really easy to push shooters into melee outside of havoc

[void dragon]

Was running a stealth build in auric and can confirm, really people let me kill all the ranged enemies because they are stuck clearing melee, even if is not the main menace

[tall torrent]

No point playing long range point & click game with them

[visual badge]

yeah but if you have cover

and theres like 10 gunners and more ranged fodder

[tall torrent]

Kill gunner first with jiggle peak via cover then charge shooters into melee

[visual badge]

in open areas, you are really not going to push through

I like the idea, but there's been times I've gotten my ass handed to me by thinking I can do that

[tall torrent]

I think counterfire matters for like 3 guns total

[visual badge]

I do see what you mean, I really do

but a lot of areas in the game are open and only have few instances of cover

you won't be in cqb all the time

especially shit like carnival finale

a lot of enemies on high and gunners in the range

you cannot feasibly run into the open to charge them into melee

[void dragon]

In my experience, and not havoc, I can sustain it for a long time killing 4 gunners, many fodders and then another set of gunners all in the middle of a horde, that without counting the reapers and other melee stuff

[visual badge]

counter fire just lets me keep track of where every shooter is

[tall torrent]

Mercantile finale is one of the few situations I think long range actually matters

But that still wouldn’t be a counterfire pick for me

[visual badge]

well your build with the exe stance for helbore

I've been running it and I really love it

and you do have few talent points left over

so I just decided to pick up counterfire

I can't say it's failed me

[tall torrent]

That’s fair

Counterfire is nice QoL if ur gun has ammo to kill mobs with

[void dragon]

How is your build meant to look?

[visual badge]

I run this build currently

[tall torrent]

I just don’t play those guns very often

And if I do I still wouldn’t run counterfire tbh

[visual badge]

twinned blast and demo team is recommended

not fan of those

[tall torrent]

U gotta believe in gambling

It just works

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-hikari-gif-1408129775731152385

[visual badge]

you can pick camo if you want to

[void dragon]

On havoc it resets a lot of nades so I understand why it's seen as really useful

[visual badge]

I do not run havoc

auric damn/maelstrom mostly

[tall torrent]

I think they’re good value for auric too

[void dragon]

Can confirm

[visual badge]

if i'm in bad spot, I just chuck like 2-3 grenades

save 1 if teammates goes down maybe

[void dragon]

Don't even need nade packs almost at all

[visual badge]

by the time I need them, I have all or at least 2 back

[tall torrent]

Especially for exe stance which has far worse space-making than other abilities

[arctic rampart]

Nobody else fucking picks up nades... I don't mind getting 5 more even w/ double regen.

[visual badge]

if you want demo team and twinned blast, take off 15 stacks and forgo counter fire

you really don't need counterfire, but the aura of being able to see shooters does change your role

[void dragon]

Sometimes people keep nades for the next game, had teams die with full nade counts

[visual badge]

can also take off tac reload

I personally use it because with mf, it just lets you reload super quick

lets me keep up exe stance to keep seeing auras

[void dragon]

Am I unlucky or twinned blast just doesn't work? I don't recall ever getting a second nade from it

[hollow ibex]

it works, 20% of the time

[visual badge]

36% actually

[hollow ibex]

ah yes

there it is

was waiting for that, though from path

[visual badge]

[void dragon]

So I'm just unlucky

The universe make sense again

[visual badge]

exactly why I dont run it

% perks are just

interesting

[arctic rampart]

There are just better things to pick than twinned blast. That's why I don't run it...

[void dragon]

One is gambling with a resource, the other is a happy surprise in the form of said resource

[arctic rampart]

I guess if you're RP too hard as a grenadier I can get wanting it !

[trim steppe]

I always undervalue % chance skills in every game I play. I'd rather have a consistent reliable boost than a chance at something

[visual badge]

ok tbf if you forced me to pick ONE gambling perk

I'd rather go demo team

because elites and specialists are plentiful on auric damn

[arctic rampart]

demo team in maelstrom yess my precious

[visual badge]

twinned blast i'd have to wait another minute to even try it again

[tall torrent]

Not many, for havoc anyway

[hollow ibex]

twinned blast smoke build

[void dragon]

Wouldn't it be good that when you pick an ammo from a source your next nade has a mini-nade? To remove the randomness of it

[arctic rampart]

I have accidentally played havoc a few times but didn't bother since everyone in there was turning into edgey zealots. Am I missing out?

[visual badge]

havoc is just higher than auric damnation

it's basically like cata from vermintide

if you want to have fun, nah

[tall torrent]

No because u can throw like 100+ grenades in a havoc while getting only 10-15 ammo pickups

[void dragon]

Ah, you mean from the other perk, that could be an issue

[tall torrent]

I think if it’s to get buffed, buff to 30% chance

This way 2 frags has 51% chance to proc it at least once

Which “feels” a lot better than 36% chance

[arctic rampart]

I didnt play very much vermintide. I do a lot of maelstrom, currently its fun and don't always win

[visual badge]

well take it that

auric maelstrom

even if you make a mistake, you can still win

from what I see about havoc 40

one mistake is the entire mission is over

[hollow ibex]

yes buff frags pls

[visual badge]

you can decide if you find that fun or not

vermintide was basically same

you had legend, then they added cataclysm

somehow people wanted harder

and modded these insane difficulties

[tall torrent]

It’s more like
2-3 people make mistake at around the same time, then u get fked

[wild vortex]

My aim for the year is to reach and clear havoc 40

[visual badge]

someone has to bring me into havoc 40

I want to see if my ass can handle it

[wild vortex]

Stretch goal of doing it at least once per class

[void dragon]

Hoping to make a havoc 30 soon, then when I get all gear ready might aim to 40

[sterile garnet]

Biggest tips i can give are to stick together, don't push ahead quickly, coordinate ults

The big one is pushing ahead quickly. If you do that you'll get a boss spawn + scab captain spawn, aggro elite patrol, and then a horde will spawn while you're trying to manage all that shit

As soon as you hear a boss spawn or elite patrol, pull back. Retreat. Deal with the threat, then you can advance

[gentle yoke]

Is there a fast way to knock out killshot ready penance? Thinking of just recon lasgun into a horde for kills

[visual badge]

pretty much it imo, thats the way I did it

[gentle yoke]

Damn. High intensity Heresy it is then.

[visual badge]

genuinely do not get who thought 2,5K kills was a good idea

[vernal trench]

Can u handle a 30?

[visual badge]

I've done like 3 ranks of havoc with a friend before I decided this was boring and we went to do auric damnations lol

[vernal trench]

Havoc 3?

What are u most comfortable with or where do u start feeling a challenge when u play normally

[visual badge]

I can consistently do auric maelstrom with decent randos

maybe really tough maelstrom modifiers

[vernal trench]

Like wat

[tame lodge]

Havoc 3 is just malice

[visual badge]

yeah

[vernal trench]

Yea

[visual badge]

I stopped doing it because of that, and theres no material in havoc

I needed diamantine to 100% rest of the guns

[thin bobcat]

How do I get the Long Bomb Penace done?

[vernal trench]

u get 25k diamantine every week from h40

[uncut pebble]

Remind me what the conditions are?

[visual badge]

idk like combination of wave of specialists with chance of them being monstrosities

thing is I'm comfortable with any difficulty and any modifier

it's just randos

[thin bobcat]

No bouncing the grenade against any surfaces while getting 5 kills.

[vernal trench]

I mean i think ull be okay playing on havoc 20 atleast

[uncut pebble]

Ah, that's easy. Queue ascension riser, wait on the starting side of the bridge, throw a grenade at the horde that spawns on the other side when your team advances.

[vernal trench]

but if u compare auric maelstroms to havoc 40 its not even comparible

[uncut pebble]

Iirc a shredder will travel 30 or so meters before it explodes, you can drop a ping to measure the distance.

[thin bobcat]

The 1st For the Emperor Penace is the only one I have trouble with, I completed the penaces required for the other ones.

[visual badge]

never done havoc, so I can't say

[vernal trench]

To me the difference is like

Havoc 40 to auric maelstroms

Is like auric maelstroms to heresy

[visual badge]

I mean the only thing I know is that theres no grace between damage

so gunners can instakill you

[gentle yoke]

Long bomb wasn’t terrible but I have 4 penances left and still haven’t done make every shot count

[visual badge]

use the revolver and waste ammo on most enemies, then just dont use it again lol

[vernal trench]

Eveeything has 1.5x health and do a lot more damage

If u play vet u will down in 3 hits by even chaff

[thin bobcat]

My problem was that I accidentally shot dead bodies cause the death animations made them look like they were still alive.

I just used the Stub Revolver at Hordes.

[gentle yoke]

Yeah that got me a lot because of high speed zealots

[vernal trench]

Gunners are probably the most significant change in havoc vs damnation

a single little gunner can down u if ur not careful

[steep flower]

i would say shooters

they are worse

[vernal trench]

Yea little gunners

[thin bobcat]

Zealots kill enemies right when I shoot them so I shoot at nothing.

[vernal trench]

The shooter guys u cant ping

reapers too

[steep flower]

more numerous, can't be marked, covers more

[vernal trench]

I mean its usually a ton of them stacked up thats when it gets deadly

If someones jumpign straight into h40 the increased armored spawns will be pretty daunting too

Its like the melee only maelstrom amount of armored elites but regularly depending on what spawns u get

[gentle yoke]

Hi intensity brutes plus pox gas. Am I cooked?

[tropic notch]

I love mobain 21st 40s my psyker has a great time

[vernal trench]

I love it for my powersword

[latent parcel]

chonky doesnt play h40 dont let him fool you

[vernal trench]

Na i play heresy only

[tropic notch]

[vernal trench]

Im pulling all this info out my ass

[gentle yoke]

I don’t play Havoc. I stick to aurics for my own sanity

[latent parcel]

yeah havoc is to much

i only play sedition

[vernal trench]

Im waiting for havoc update its getting stale

[vernal trench]

Noob

[latent parcel]

with papa willy

[tropic notch]

Tbh power sword with sunder would go hard

[vernal trench]

pro

[tropic notch]

In havoc

[vernal trench]

u know what else is hard

[gentle yoke]

I only play the tutorial. Every time it finishes I make a new character

[latent parcel]

heresy?

[vernal trench]

Shit same

[vernal trench]

Malice

Its too hard im going back to whatever is between sedition and malice

Forgot the name cuz i suck

[visual badge]

I just dont play the game at all

checkmate

[latent parcel]

i only play maelstroms cuz im a 1700 zealot

[tropic notch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/877778238162731078/1283192473593577563/ezgif-5-5aa3b832f3.gif

[latent parcel]

checkmate

[vernal trench]

I play with the hidden cameras in stompts room

[gentle yoke]

I have the hardest time in Auric with the vet. All my other classes hold up, but I like me helbore and don’t want to quit

[vernal trench]

@paper umbra ?

[latent parcel]

hell yeah

[visual badge]

I run helbore in auric maelstrom, I think youre doing something wrong

[vernal trench]

Cheese the real carry man

Cant even find the elevator

[uncut pebble]

Uprising.

[gentle yoke]

Pretty much all my perks are into crits and damage. I’m super squishy. That and I stick with the shovel

[uncut pebble]

Post your weapons and talents.

(you are about to be ripped limb from limb by a pack of wild dogs)

[vernal trench]

Yea thats it thats my jam

[latent parcel]

hell yeah

[uncut pebble]

(I am a pack of wild dogs)

[gentle yoke]

Alright lol. Gotta make it

[latent parcel]

frog is here to rip ur build apart

[vernal trench]

Frog wants to rip his ??? apart

Woah

[latent parcel]

i heard he only plays heresy though which is far better then me

[visual badge]

I aint listening to a frog

go jump in a pond

[vernal trench]

He gonna be ribbit ribbit

[vernal trench]

True hes just better

heresy players are too good

[latent parcel]

just built different

[vernal trench]

Hey man if u get good enough maybe one day u can play auric maelstroms like cheese

[latent parcel]

hell yeah

[vernal trench]

And put ur own builds up in ur bio

Thats the dream man

[latent parcel]

i wish

[vernal trench]

I aint that good too bad im never getting there

[visual badge]

if youre really good, one day you'll also participate in an actual darktide mission irl

[latent parcel]

chonky is building his own darktide level in minecraft rn

[visual badge]

unfortunately for you, you're not a main character

[vernal trench]

No way

[visual badge]

you're also not a named space marine

[vernal trench]

Imma be like cheese and soloing an auric maelstrom in mibecraft

[latent parcel]

hell yeah

[vernal trench]

Thats what im talkin about

[gentle yoke]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9e20bbb0-933a-4dfb-a69a-b02c0b61125d

[latent parcel]

hell yeah time to rip this guy apart

[gentle yoke]

Don’t judge me too hard lol

[latent parcel]

nevermind he uses a shovel and helbore

hes already better then me

[vernal trench]

Get a +3 stam imstead of 2 health

[uncut pebble]

Now I must wait 87 years for Opera to fucking load it.

[visual badge]

get catch a breath instead of gbitf

also +1 stamina at top instead of movement speed

also idk is born leader any good?

[hearty panther]

every time i see gbtif typed out like that i feel like its a shorthand for some sort of egregious insult

[visual badge]

I just get for the emperor

[tall torrent]

very strong in havoc

in auric the choice doesn't matter

[gentle yoke]

Gbitf?

[latent parcel]

were all heresy players in here tho

nobody plays havoc anymore

[visual badge]

I imagine theres smth in havoc that fucks with your toughness?

[hearty panther]

you guys are beating heresy?

[latent parcel]

no

i said i play it i dont win

[hearty panther]

very fair my bad og

[gentle yoke]

Yeah usually I just lose it super quick so I threw those on

[tall torrent]

havoc has reduced toughness for players
u can find zealot and psyker with like 50~70 toughness lol

[uneven garnet]

You dodging? Sprint sliding? Dodge sliding?

[visual badge]

but born leader only procs if your own toughness is not 100% no?

[quartz nymph]

Can I avoid desperado if I am using a dueling sword or does the perk pair well with it?

[visual badge]

I dunno, I never played havoc

[gentle yoke]

Usually yeah, but there’s always a time when I get smacked because my guy jumped instead of dodged

[tall torrent]

no

[uncut pebble]

Change your curios to 2 17% toughness and a +3 stam curios, ability cdr on curios is bad, you could run gunner resist instead, change get back in the fight to catch a breath, change target down to redirect fire on your keystone, not going to comment on the double toughness generation you've got going on up top because I honestly find out for blood to be a little underperforming for ranged builds. You could get around the weapon swap speed issues by running executioner's stance, as that makes your helbore draw instantly, and it would help a lot for breakpoints.

[visual badge]

I feel like duelling sword doesnt need melee talents, its good on its own

[visual badge]

someone lied to me

[visual badge]

or it didnt work that way

[uneven garnet]

Theres your problem. Rebind dodge to a different key

[visual badge]

I remember born leader only worked if you also didnt have 100% toughness

[hearty panther]

i believe it used to not, but either way, it does now

[vernal trench]

Always take ability cooldown on ur curios dont listen to frog

[hearty panther]

its a tremendous resource for your team in havoc, since my squishy ass runs around with 65 toughness on psyker

[vernal trench]

Ur gonna need that extra one or two seconds on havoc trust me

[uneven garnet]

Guys. He getting hit because he’s jumping instead of dodging!!!

[hearty panther]

it means if im in range to get your gold toughness from shout it will ALWAYS push me into gold

even if im at 0

[latent parcel]

wait you can rebind keys in this game?

[uneven garnet]

No build will fix that. That’s an optimization problem.

Yes

[tall torrent]

check dm, u still want that session or nah

[vernal trench]

Wait u can dodge?

[visual badge]

so voc + born leader generates more toughness?

hm

[hearty panther]

you're generating toughness all the time for everyone, which is nice

[visual badge]

so if I had to pick born leader or for the emperor

I guess in auric maelstrom it doesnt matter

[hearty panther]

the interaction with VoC is just a very nice bonus for safety, since you would otherwise shout and 'only' give a psyker 50 flat toughness, which might not push them into gold range

[gentle yoke]

Thought gbitf would be better than catch a breath. Don’t really know distance in the game.

[tall torrent]

Havoc = born leader
Below havoc = doesn’t matter

[hollow ibex]

it's loading up that chinese spyware first

[visual badge]

catch a breath is 8 meters, if youre in melee you'll get toughness from kills

it's always active, gbitf is very niche

[gentle yoke]

That’s fair

[uncut pebble]

Catch a breath is also huge for dealing with shooters.

Constant toughness regeneration for existing.

[hollow ibex]

GBITF was much more useful back when you could be stunned by gunners and shit

[hearty panther]

well, not even back then

[gentle yoke]

Oh that’s fair. I’ll swap them

[visual badge]

pair it with O4B, you can get back from most hits

[uncut pebble]

Desperado is a free 25% headshot damage for ds, you want that talent.

[hearty panther]

you'd much rather generate toughness at a distance

you know what was better than GBITF? Thy Grenades Be Swift

[hollow ibex]

it's definitely saved my hide... twice prob

[tall torrent]

Nah, can skip if stretched for points

DS doesn’t need a lot of talents on veteran

[hearty panther]

Dueling Sword doesnt need shit to be ridiculous, may as well skip any melee bonuses

[uncut pebble]

Yeah but how would you be stretched for points on a duelling sword build?

[tall torrent]

Pulling DS into a recon build, for example

[hearty panther]

it's like adding a stack of TNT to a nuke

[gentle yoke]

I really wanted to get that extra +5% crit hit chance node under close and kill but ran out of points

Also is shovel really the best weapon with helbore? Just need something for close range damage and occasional horde

[hollow ibex]

heavy sword better imo

[visual badge]

I'd say it's decent

any melee works really

[hollow ibex]

helbore has really good single target

so what you need is a good horde clear melee

that's low investment

[visual badge]

but yea helbore is single target

[hollow ibex]

that's the heavy sword exactly

[gentle yoke]

The one shot heavy alt melee is great but takes forever to charge

I’ll try a run or two with the heavy sword

[visual badge]

the special is only good for like solo targets

so you dont have to swap

[gentle yoke]

One shot crusher does feel nice though

[quartz nymph]

Roger that. I won't take it off my build. Trying to refine my commissar build

[vernal trench]

Being one shot by a crusher feels nicer

[hollow ibex]

oh yeah there's power sword too of course

[gentle yoke]

Thought they nerfed that heavily

[gentle yoke]

[hollow ibex]

power sword? it hasn't been touched

just... bugged

[gentle yoke]

Never used it before just read on some forum it was.

[latent parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-stk-rescue-tbag-taunt-gif-13931574359943268801

Found a live video of @vernal trench getting teabagged by my ogryn

[visual badge]

PS is good

but I do not like activating each time to do any decent horde clear

[vernal trench]

Its so hot i cant stop watching iy

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-bernie-warhammer-warhammer-40k-hype-gif-17587262507451076215

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-chaos-spawn-ginkgo-fall-gif-4230252786752366838

[vernal trench]

Literally u @latent parcel

[latent parcel]

Ya so

atleast i play ogryn

[vernal trench]

U noob

[gentle yoke]

Ogryn is nice. Big friendly guy.

[vernal trench]

https://tenor.com/view/knutmath-knut-math-counting-confused-gif-3104072053120049527

Stompt cant count

[latent parcel]

😔

[vernal trench]

Hes the size of a walmart but has a brain the size of his pinkie

[unreal nova]

And I thought I was bad at Maths.

[latent parcel]

ogryn brain

sorry karien

[unreal nova]

I'm an autistic lady who dumped maths. Heh.

[latent parcel]

You got ogryn brain too?

[paper umbra]

@latent parcel @vernal trench the goats 🔥

[unreal nova]

Naw. Gremlin vet here.

[latent parcel]

ah

[unreal nova]

[obsidian saddle]

Aww man I wish I was as good as a 1700 zealot!

[vernal trench]

A true legend he is

[warm bolt]

I realised i forgot to switch my build from plasma one to helbore one mid-mission

[hollow ibex]

how

did you not use your gun or something lol

[warm bolt]

I have no idea but it just didnt save the changes

[quartz nymph]

Okay I messed around. Swapped back desperado, but I think this looks better for a commissar

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e20d3d8-526b-4f15-8780-e2dad9566eca/lady-yarrick

[warm bolt]

I was wondering why i still could voc but didnt pay it any mind for some time

[faint beacon]

@tall torrent Got a curiosity question for you regarding Tunnel Vision, the Toughness replenishment is it more so added onto lets say like- other Talents that give you increased toughness or is it literally just 5% toughness per stack of MF you get

Mainly cause im trying to figure out seeing im running a VA build with MF, if I should do CK or O4B

like which one in the long run would get more value out of Tunnel Vision

[brisk cedar]

Do y’all think VoC or Stealth is better?

[tame lodge]

Different purposes Voc>>>

[brisk cedar]

My friend insists I should use voc for havoc but I like using stealth more?

Is it still viable

[tall torrent]

at 10 stacks it's x1.5 to melee kill & talents' toughness gain
this value is reduced by certain player debuffs (like fire and gas)

[tall torrent]

yea

[brisk cedar]

Thanks

[barren nimbus]

Stealth isn’t about being viable its about being useful for your team

[steep flower]

Which makes it viable since its useful

[faint beacon]

So its not just a get stack and receive a flat 5% toughness to your toughness bar

but rather

[steep flower]

[faint beacon]

increase to your talents that give toughness

cause if thats so

im wondering if CK or O4B would be more valuable

paired with Tunnel Vision

[supple laurel]

whats the best weapon and difficulty to get marked for death

[quartz nymph]

Is that the 2500 mf kills?

[supple laurel]

no

[faint beacon]

this one

im pretty sure ADS counts as it

its been ages since I've done it though

[supple laurel]

if it did, wouldve had it by now

or im pretty sure i wouldve

[faint beacon]

I'd say safest bet is the Slug Shotgun run shooter node on Exec

[supple laurel]

slug is agripinaa right

[faint beacon]

I'll check one moment

[steep flower]

Yes it is

[faint beacon]

Yes

yes it is

[supple laurel]

shooter node?

[faint beacon]

Counter Fire

on Exec Stance

[supple laurel]

ohhh

[faint beacon]

makes it super fucking easy

cause Exec Stance is an Upgrade version of Volley Fire

so it counts

[steep flower]

Its any weakspots

[faint beacon]

towards any "Volley Fire" penances

[steep flower]

So find a plague ogryn and shoot his head 4 times with exec stance active

Ez

[latent parcel]

your a plague ogryn!

[tall torrent]

Yes

[supple laurel]

so basically just hit 4 headshots using slug rounds in exe stance

[steep flower]

Or any gun really

[latent parcel]

you ready for my scriers inferno psyker with no keystone the next time we play?!

[supple laurel]

i dont think ill be able to load the slugs fast enough for that

[steep flower]

Sounds as bad as i smell bad

[faint beacon]

Just yes

Im more so wondering

in your opinion

[latent parcel]

its good. trust!

[faint beacon]

should I run O4B

or

[latent parcel]

ask chonky

[faint beacon]

CK

mainly cause im asking to see which would be better with a Agri IX build thats using MF

[faint beacon]

Correct

[supple laurel]

can it be the same enemy or 4 different enemies

[steep flower]

Thats the point; i don’t smell bad