veteran-class

[steep flower]

And the fact plasma guy did not picked any ammo

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/live-free-or-die-hard-die-hard4-mc-clane-thomas-gabriel-timothy-olyphant-gif-22089661

[hollow ibex]

Yeah

[vernal trench]

what modifiers aws it

[hollow ibex]

Dogs muties and blitz I think?

[vernal trench]

ah

anyone wanna do havoc 39

[warm bolt]

What's the meta havoc build again?

Talents-wise

[vagrant wolf]

why tf does vet feel nerfed

fucking lame ass update, not even new weapons for the class

[hollow ibex]

vet def wasn't nerfed

[vagrant wolf]

also can we have fukken hellguns or stubbers and like sacrifice your melee weapon for more boolets

no i dont want to play your fuckin shitty melee mechanic

fuck you fatshark

piece of shit game

im salty

[hollow ibex]

melee's a core gameplay mechanic, whether you like it or not

true of any tide game

[vagrant wolf]

then wtf is the point of the vet class then

[warm bolt]

You still get to shoot more

[hollow ibex]

because this isn't call of duty

[unreal nova]

Like Keri, you get to shoot more. Still gotta get used to stabbing stuff unless you play low diff.

[hollow ibex]

vet isn't the shooter class

[unreal nova]

Like where shortbow INF ammo keri works.

[hollow ibex]

you just happen to be able to shoot more than other classes

(excluding psyker warp fuckery)

[unreal nova]

They can play sedationSedition diff with inf ammo shocktroop las, you can shoot everything then.

[tall torrent]

Veteran has not been a ranged focused class for over a year at this point

That would be psyker

[vagrant wolf]

THEN WHY THE FUCK DOES VET HAVE FOCUS KEYSTONE

WHAT THE FUCK RIOTGAMES

FIX YOUR SHIT

[vernal trench]

Riot games?

[vagrant wolf]

idk man it's like

"oh vey we hab shit that makes ranged combat fun and stuff but we punish you for doing it ,so why not play a brain dead zealot and LMB spam everything."

[austere mica]

Ranged combat is also lmb spam, it just requires more aim and less dodging

[soft trellis]

my 2 weaknesses...

[warm bolt]

200 years of game design does sound warhammery tbh

[tall torrent]

Focus target is “tag thing then kill it by any means”

Marksman focus just exists but is pretty awkward

[vagrant wolf]

supposedly there's weakspot thingy but the moment bulwark shows up, it has a shitty fucking invisible hitbox which is wider

[austere mica]

Bulwarks aren’t meant to be shot

[warm bolt]

Or you shoot them after you stagger them and make them lower their shield

[austere mica]

You’re supposed to bait a swing and than hit them in melee

[tall torrent]

U can shoot them if u have exe boltgun

Otherwise not worth

[broken spade]

believe it or not, bulwark shield hitboxes used to be significantly worse

[soft trellis]

^

[austere mica]

(You can also use certain staves)

[soft trellis]

I remember that shit

[austere mica]

Well actually, every staff

[vagrant wolf]

i play on Havoc or AM

you pretty much ignore them and let the 3 work on bulwarks

[soft trellis]

I remember swinging way away from a shield and hitting it lol

[hollow ibex]

bulwark force shields were fixed

(and they're even more annoying now tbh)

[broken spade]

at least now it feels reasonable to hit their head from the side if they're facing someone else

this used to be impossible

[soft trellis]

Yep

[vagrant wolf]

Marksman focus just exists but is pretty awkward
just doesn't make sense to play ranged focus vet rn

you're always cucked by the other three classes

[hollow ibex]

i just really hate how they got a hp buff for no fucking reason

[hollow ibex]

nah ranged vet is super fucking strong

you just have to remember to melee sometimes rather than use your gun the entire game

[soft trellis]

both ranged and melee vet are very powerful >.>

[vagrant wolf]

my ork shoota brain says no choppa

[austere mica]

You play in havoc, you should have gotten over that already

[vagrant wolf]

and yes i play either braced autogun or recon las

[warm bolt]

Brauto

Only rivalled by bolter in sheer dopamine you get injected into your brain

[sleek garden]

just singlehandedly took down a 2 story high wall of gunners with exy stance and ghost on a lasgun

ranged veteran is still the king

[warm bolt]

Damn line infantry tactics are still alive and well in the 41st millenium

[sleek garden]

clearly you haven't played in the hourglass in a bit

just had a smyker in my auric maelstrom smiting a boss

god smykers are just useless

[warm bolt]

Sheer heart attack is, in fact, not an aoe-based attack

[sleek garden]

im the only one who died

im so mad

[dry cloak]

helbore really needs a better sight

[sleek garden]

i got pushed away by a boss and shredded by a rager

[hollow ibex]

https://steamusercontent-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/10796779762670415/45B821AE0BFC83508B4ACB35850D32601F7050D4/

neuron activation

everytime i hear a dog wave, and my brauto is ready

[radiant chasm]

bracing your brauto

CRINGE

[hollow ibex]

you're just jelly of my rpm

[radiant chasm]

how can i be jelly, when i have fat cleave

[hollow ibex]

why use few boolet when you can use many boolet

[vagrant wolf]

extended weapon mods from nexus

[sleek garden]

psykers are always so useless

gun psyker that cant melt boss

[vagrant wolf]

massive kek but ok

[sleek garden]

smyker smiting boss

[sleek garden]

i know psyker is super op but the people in auric maelstrom are just morons

i play tons of psyker

i can make hordes of crushers disappear

these people smite bosses then go down in 3 hits because they have no idea what the dodge key is

[uncut pebble]

Can confirm, 19/20 psykers are useless.

The ones that aren't play like shit most times so practically all of them are.

[tall torrent]

I think it’s real funny how braced autogun has less dodges than almost every gun

[unreal nova]

Makes no sense when you want to run in, dodge and shoot with it.

[hollow ibex]

yeah it's pretty fucked

considering you have to brace for max dps

[dry cloak]

outside of mods

[hollow ibex]

and then it turns you into a fucking turret 😭

so you have to dodge for any semblance of mobility

[uncut pebble]

It's to balance out the dps you are capable of. See flamer or purgatus for similar weapons capable of obscene dps.

[tall torrent]

They have more dodges than braced autoguns, with far better scaling into density

[crude fiber]

Braced auto guns have the same dodges as plasma so they must be just as good

[rustic beacon]

New havoc meta

[uncut pebble]

You're telling me brauto only gets 1 dodge? Flamer gets 2, max.

Pretty sure purg gets 3.

[tall torrent]

Flamer gets 4 I believe
Braced autogun gets 2

[uncut pebble]

Nah Flamer gets 2 lmao.

[tall torrent]

Lemme check

[crude fiber]

2slinds right but it's been a minute

[uncut pebble]

I'm certain that flamer has 2 dodges, considering I used it for ~150 levels.

[crude fiber]

That means your biased and can't be trusted

[uncut pebble]

Purg has 3, I am certain of this as well, considering staves all have 3 dodges.

[tall torrent]

Ok ya flamer is 2

Inferno has 3

They still scale far better into density tho

[crude fiber]

Braced cleave buff when

[tall torrent]

Braced autogun doesn’t have nearly as much dps as the 2-dodge guns

[rustic beacon]

Considering we are already on the topic of brauto, do they benefit from rending strikes?

[tall torrent]

Yes
Specifically II and IV

VIII doesn’t benefit as much

[rustic beacon]

Ty 💪🏻

[hollow ibex]

yeah definitely not

even with braced graia, the dps is just meh

i just like playing braced for the memes

[balmy flume]

Back from binging some other games

TIME TO DANCE WITH OGRYNS

[uncut pebble]

Five. Hundred. Overheads.

[sleek garden]

infiltrate+hit and run

teleport into a group of gunners and mow them down

actually maybe ill run that and eat my words right now

[hollow ibex]

but if i run infil, i can't run exec stance brauto 😭

[sleek garden]

i love executors stance

but i just cant do braced auto on it

its just too innacurate still

hold on

[formal ice]

Then do infrary

[sleek garden]

could ceaseless barrage get crazy balue out of infiltrate

value

its over

[tame lodge]

The point of vet is to get the best of both worlds

[tame lodge]

The suppression window is a bit short eh

It's more suppression and more damage against suppressed enemies per mag spent during continuous fire

So if you tried to get value during the short suppressed window you'd have to shoot fast

Get Weapon Specialist

Stab 10 times
Infiltrate
Change weapon
Brrrrrr

(it would still suck)

[gilded wraith]

What's the best bang for the buck for infiltrate modifiers?

[hollow ibex]

Low profile

[orchid tartan]

never seen a character a level this high before

[crimson pebble]

theirs ppl as hight as 5k

probably higher

[narrow frost]

Trauma is at 5.1k

I'm at 4.7k on 4 characters

[tame lodge]

Damn, y'all got no life

[narrow frost]

yup

[tame lodge]

Anyways I think I'm nearing 1.5k on zealot

[narrow frost]

congrats

just another 3.5k then its 5k

[hearty panther]

im like, 1300 on zeal, 900 on psyker, 1000 on vet, and <100 on ogryn lul

and probably another 500 lost in the Psykhanium

[tame lodge]

Psykhanium gameplay

[hearty panther]

many an hour spent learning bps and movesets and movetech

[sleek garden]

however:terrifying barrage

i didn't use terrigying barrage but it was actually pretty fun to play that way with veteran

I took agile engagement instead of weapons specialists

however i don't have confirmed kill

[sleek garden]

I'm not using one, but if i had points i'd take surprise attack to get the most out of your brief window of nobody hitting you

[hollow ibex]

infil tax is pretty rough

i'd always like to take surprise attack, but never have the points lol

[vernal trench]

Deen tons higher that are dogshit

[forest scaffold]

gotta pump those numbers up on ogryn

[vernal trench]

Never seen anyone ever actually use it half decent

[soft trellis]

oh hi puri, haven't seen you in a while >.>

oh now I see why lol

[hollow ibex]

yeah i mean i don't think it's a great talent tbh, only 5 seconds

[vernal trench]

I meant infiltrate in general

[hollow ibex]

oh i like infil

[vernal trench]

But i do use the 30% attack boost myself it works well

[forest scaffold]

lmao

[faint beacon]

we discussing Account level or like actual specific character level

[forest scaffold]

man's on a mission to creep on me

such is life

[hollow ibex]

it feels a bit like VOC, except less cheesy

[soft trellis]

[vernal trench]

Its better and takes much more skill yea

[narrow frost]

just overall

[faint beacon]

I think mines like 1.5K atm?

[soft trellis]

As if my attention span is that good @forest scaffold

[faint beacon]

Veteran alone is nearing 900

[forest scaffold]

Funny that ogryn is still stupidly good all this time later

[hearty panther]

i sadly dont vibe too hard with ogryn and the insistence on heavy attack spams really makes their kits monotonous

[soft trellis]

ikr?

[forest scaffold]

also funny that people still don't like him on teams

[sleek garden]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e0bfd4e-333b-48ea-9ec2-43f044c7034e/idiotic-infiltrator

[forest scaffold]

join the bb mk3 club

heavy hitter works on all melee hits

but can be made to be retained by light attacks

[soft trellis]

What I find fun is bringing my gunlugger build into heresy and melting every daemonhost I see for the lulz

[forest scaffold]

so you only need to heavy attack a few times to get the damage buff

[trim steppe]

Good lord. I thought I played too much, good to know there's always someone in deeper I think I'm approaching 1000 total across my 4 characters. My highest is vet with around 300

[soft trellis]

Pubs go from "SON OF A-" to "wtf?!"

[forest scaffold]

I forgor my ammo counts

But I always laughed at the scoreboard saying like "45 big packs taken"

when I played glugger

[vernal trench]

I remember a guy being pissed cuz we killed a demonhost in auric maelstrom

[trim steppe]

Seeing a scoreboard ammo count of 29-16-7 is always a trip

[vernal trench]

No idea why he was mad

[hearty panther]

im not on the level of idiocy that denies ogryns a spot on my havoc squads but i dont play em is all

[hearty panther]

also i loved mk3 club for a good while

[trim steppe]

"Why would you risk something you knew you could handle 😭 "

[vernal trench]

God ogryn carries everyone

[hearty panther]

but man the ogryn tree does ogryns dirty

[sleek garden]

I quite like power maul with brutal momentum and skullcrusher

[vernal trench]

Hes just stupid

[sleek garden]

throw an entire horde to the floor

your return swing kills anyone not dead in the first swing

[forest scaffold]

Yeah fair enough.

Ogryn takes a special kind of mindset to really enjoy

[vernal trench]

Smoke goes hard

[forest scaffold]

either you vibe with it or you don't, and like you said, the skill tree doesn't offer a whole lot of expirementation

[gray finch]

Hit really hard

[narrow frost]

so true

[forest scaffold]

Basically just "Lol 20% toughness back on heavy hit, take confident strike on melee"

become invulnerable in melee situations

which is. . . boring to a lot of folks

no fun if no danger

[sleek garden]

the real key of ogryn is the ragdolls

you send people flying with clubs

[hearty panther]

oh i do love the ragdolls

[vernal trench]

I love ogryn

[forest scaffold]

Heavy 1 and Heavy 2 on Shield is fucking hilarious, especially now that brutal momentum works reliably and consistently on it

Enemies constantly flying away from you in death animations

but you also only use H1 and H2 which is very, very boring lmao

[gray finch]

i mean i was playing veteran

[trim steppe]

is the shield H2 in rotation now? I thought it was just H1 spam forever

[gray finch]

that class is way more boring now

[tall torrent]

H2 is useful for staggering larger hordes

[trim steppe]

Ah

I'll have to pop back onto Ogryn, it's been a hot minute

[forest scaffold]

Is heavy 2 the sweep?

I've actually forgotten the animation rotation

[tall torrent]

H1 smack
H2 sweep

[forest scaffold]

I just know the sweep has infinite cleave so long as you don't hit carapace

[trim steppe]

Yeah, I think its the edge jab and then the backhand sweep

[forest scaffold]

so its always been useful

And it damages everyone it hits now? Fuck, I've also forgotten if it has the damage cap or not

[tall torrent]

the only ogryn melee weapon with cleave dmg distribution cap is bully club

all 3 variants can only dmg up to 3 enemies per attack

after 3rd target, deals only stagger, no damage

ogryn's ranged weapons' melee special action also have cleave dmg distribution cap

[forest scaffold]

God I actually feel old now

[trim steppe]

That's wack

[forest scaffold]

"I've forgotten more than you'll ever learn"

[tall torrent]

most can only dmg 2 enemies then it's stagger only

[forest scaffold]

🧓 📢 ☁️

[tall torrent]

ripper bayonet can dmg 3 but has horrendous dmg distribution anyway

[slim copper]

Man fuck that cloud

[sleek garden]

with the power maul its incredible

[soft trellis]

Man... I remember when we couldn't even change blesings x.x

[tall torrent]

in terms of cleave dmg they don't have cleave dmg

[sleek garden]

you will send people literally soaring

[tall torrent]

it's real funny how bully club and pickaxe coexist on the same class

[tame lodge]

Real

[tall torrent]

pickaxe is maybe 12x the horde clear of bully club

[forest scaffold]

My best friend put it beautifully: "A graveyard of garbage"

[trim steppe]

Man, I remember way back when we didn't have havoc yet

[forest scaffold]

Yeah the mk3b bully club has always made me sad

I really wanted a competitor to the bb mk3

but its just. . . not

[soft trellis]

I remember when we didn't even have an auric board or maelstroms lol

[forest scaffold]

I remember when we had dogs for a month

[soft trellis]

Yep lol

[forest scaffold]

because fatshark broke the mission modifier rotation and went on vacation

[trim steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/elrond-lotr-lord-of-the-tings-lord-elrond-3000years-gif-13229890

I gotta say, joining some random fools in party finder and clearing an H40 feels pretty good.

No comms? No problem

[forest scaffold]

I have literally never used my microphone in darktide lmao

(Because it's never worked for whatever reason)

unless you count playing with friends in discord call

[trim steppe]

Same, I remember trying to figure out why it didnt work for 5 mins then said "Aw fuck it" and never used the mic in 1300 hours

[wanton dawn]

Classic

[forest scaffold]

Exactly my situation boko

[wanton dawn]

Plus ppl eating their mics

Or those leaving open

[forest scaffold]

I got told to kms by some rando on the radio mission over mic

that was probably the worst experience I've had with mic in darktide

[forest scaffold]

commsplex?

[wanton dawn]

Or slave ppl speaking the language of their ppl. All. Game. Long.

I cant hear any difference between slave language. Could be russian or anything really

[forest scaffold]

you have an extra e in there

[trim steppe]

I had a guy with his mic on for the full mission, I just listened to his baby cooing around for 30 mins. Kinda adorable, kinda annoying lol

[wanton dawn]

I leave the mistake cuz its funny to me

Was unintended, but my type of stupid word play

[past oriole]

where is the fabled 17% toughness curio

[sleek garden]

some zealot moron in my game never took meds at critical health kept going down and at the end event of hab dreyko got trapped and started complaining that we were sleeping and being useless even though he was sitting across the map by himself

saying that we cant let shooters pile up

im playing veteran moron

i eat shooters for breakfast

[sleek garden]

on my character

[crisp oak]

How do you get trapped in hab dreyko....

[sleek garden]

by fighting in the far right corner room by yourself out of sight of teammates between a bulwark and a horde

never stayed with the group and got rightfully punished

this infiltrator build is actually a lot of fun

even if the gun feels kinda lacking sometimes

devils claw feels much more deadly

[tame lodge]

Plz don't tell me you followed through with your Barrage build

[forest scaffold]

on my ogryn I don't play anymore

I have like, unironically, 15 of them

[vernal trench]

Did he have 8 wounds

[sleek garden]

no he had three and spent most of it with 1 wound because he kept running past meds

he went down like 3 times

edited to say 3

because i hit 2

[forest scaffold]

sounds like nearly every pubgryn I've ever played with

[sleek garden]

I'm going to replace covering fire with confrimed kill

i didnt want to because i like saving my teammates

but high intensity auric clandestium is gonna kick my booty butt

actually this match is already over im in the lobby screen and i see a psyker with smite

its over...

[vernal trench]

The one i run has no intention of spending a life on reviving people

I learned the hard way its better to let them die in a lot of situations than wasting a charge or ur last charge getting them up

[sleek garden]

what do you mean

[vernal trench]

my infiltrate build

[crisp oak]

Smite has good pathing though

So even for non smykers

[vernal trench]

I still got pstd of that one smyker one time smiting when theres a single tox flamer alive

[trim steppe]

Smite Psykers are either MVP or dead weight. There is no middle

[crisp oak]

On my smite setups Ive used smite like 11 times total

[forest scaffold]

is smite electro fingies?

It's been so god damn long lmao

I only remember pre-skill tree psyker

and I played pre-skill tree psyker after the skill tree update lmao

[crisp oak]

Yes

[forest scaffold]

We love trauma staff and brain burst ❤️

[vernal trench]

Same

[crisp oak]

Wish I was better with the trauma

[trim steppe]

I'd rather take anything over brain burst. 10 seconds to deal 3 damage? Pass

[crisp oak]

Well you take bb with empowered psionics

Which turns it into an instant oneshot on basically all enemies

Except I think crushers

[forest scaffold]

I mean I think the skill tree update unfairly shat all over brain burst

it was already not good

and then fatshark went and made it even worse

[crisp oak]

Yeah

Still my favorite psyker blitz

[forest scaffold]

with the option to make it good in the skill tree if you so chose to

[crisp oak]

Still not good

[trim steppe]

Its very bad

[forest scaffold]

Yeah, and that's the thing, it's still not good lmao

It's just. . . palatable

[crisp oak]

The only good one is faster bb speed after ability usage

Tbh empowered psionics makes bb good enough

But only 3 stacks

[vernal trench]

Spyker

[trim steppe]

Every 30 seconds I can kill 2-3 guys. Or I could just play vet and kill everything at any distance

[vernal trench]

After playing psyker for like 100 levels ive decided i actually dont even like psyker

[trim steppe]

Or fuck I could just brainded assail spam and do much more

[crisp oak]

But then you dont get the flamethrowner with infinite ammo

Or trauma

[hearty panther]

is there a word for when someone tries to make a caricature of something but does such a poor job that it only turns the person themselves into a living caricature?

Right now I'm settling on Ben Garrison Disease

[vernal trench]

Thats oddly specific

[trim steppe]

I'd rather take smite for access to left tree and then just never smite, over taking BB

[wanton dawn]

Elaborate

[crisp oak]

Self Strawmanification

[wanton dawn]

Caricature are dead in america

[trim steppe]

Reality is too silly and dumb for caricature to be relevant

[crisp oak]

Fake news

Vermin supreme is still live and well

(Sadly he actually dropped rhe caricature)

[vernal trench]

I got an idea

What if

Havoc 50

Has 0 toughness

1 hp

1 hit and u die

[forest scaffold]

That was basically me.

[wanton dawn]

Somehow still nerfing ogryn

[broken spade]

havoc 60

[wanton dawn]

After 1740 lvl in vet i've decided that i might have too much hours

[broken spade]

if you get hit on havoc 60, it uninstalls your game

[past oriole]

[vernal trench]

Havoc 60, emperors fading light 20

Shotgunners have the firing speed or reapers

[tame lodge]

[vernal trench]

[broken spade]

havoc 70
if you dodge you take damage

[tame lodge]

Shotgunners are my personal nemesis, that would be a nightmare

[vernal trench]

Havoc 80, enemies have thorns

[wanton dawn]

So, we have damnation, auric, maelstrom, havoc. What will be the next name for top dif content ?

[vernal trench]

They return 110% of the damage u deal

[vernal trench]

mega havoc

[wanton dawn]

Megavocado

[forest scaffold]

Nah it'll just be like weaves

havoc will get 165 difficulties

[vernal trench]

I dont imagine them having more than probably 50-60 havoc levels tbh

[broken spade]

havoc 165
if you win, the game gets uninstalled for everyone, freeing us all

[wanton dawn]

Basic shooter becomes gunner

[vernal trench]

How kuch more health and toughness cna they take for us before it becomes stupid

[broken spade]

not much
psykers have base 75 and havoc 40 reduces that by 45
Imagine a talentless psyker in havoc 60 with negative toughness

[vapid nacelle]

is pox gas modifier affected by bomber resistance

[forest scaffold]

just do what poe does then

[broken spade]

imagine
their toughness so low that when they regen, it's a negative number and they take damage

[vapid nacelle]

I would want to assume no but after figuring out the whole Ogryn-Poxburster-Heavyweight interaction, I can't be sure

[forest scaffold]

havoc 41+ starts buffing enemies with shit like "more attack, move and cast speed"

or "enemies have 50% of HP as additional energy shield"

[vernal trench]

Id rather we get unique modifiers for 40+

Instead of emperors fading light 3

[wanton dawn]

Bomber parties modifier

[broken spade]

luckily every tree paths through a couple toughness nodes so no one has to play with 30 toughness

[forest scaffold]

ogryns out here with 400 toughness

"what is toughness reduction"

[vapid nacelle]

I wish 😔

[vernal trench]

They get like 150 in havoc 40

[forest scaffold]

that is still far more than you need lmao

every hit gives them back 20% baseline

[vernal trench]

Psykers like 80 toughness for some

[forest scaffold]

just for existing

add in confident strike

and on-death effects

[broken spade]

psykers have 60 if they pass through 2x 15 nodes and take no toughness curio

[vernal trench]

Yea they cant keep deleting health and toughness

Its just gonna become stupid imo

[forest scaffold]

like I said

fatshark would have to start buffing enemies instead

with attack speed, movement speed, spawn changes, director changes - new enemy types you can't see in lower diffs

stuff like that

[vernal trench]

Thats gonna be even more aids i feel like

New enemy types would be cool tho

[wanton dawn]

We have moebian 21 hordz

[crimson pebble]

yall arent ready for this convo but scab gunners chest should be cara like they did the ragers

[vernal trench]

Havoc 50 = all bulwarks

[broken spade]

make monstrous specials as a part of havoc

and give them the havoc buffs to monstrosities too of course

[vernal trench]

Yea itl actually be really fun

[forest scaffold]

nuke be upon ye

rumbler also gets a buff

if its all bulwarks

[wanton dawn]

Plasma too

And voc too

[broken spade]

it would actually be pretty painful having monstrous specials with havoc buffing them up to be almost real bosses

[wanton dawn]

And frags too

[broken spade]

could be a neat condition though

[forest scaffold]

void staff and trauma staff

also buffed

[wanton dawn]

And power sword too

[vernal trench]

Yea itll be rough

[wanton dawn]

Exe stance mf crying in a corner

[vernal trench]

Wih ammo so low

[forest scaffold]

you must not remember that modifier being broken in maelstrom then

when it'd spawn 3 full health bosses

instead of 3 half health bosses

[wanton dawn]

Green ones

[vernal trench]

Yea but full health bosses go down quick in auric maelstroms

[forest scaffold]

in a competent team lmao

[junior needle]

The what now?

[trim steppe]

I legit wish the new event was ALL Ogryn instead of just a bit more

[forest scaffold]

imagine randos dealing with that

it was pain

[vernal trench]

real issuee is the ammo when they spawn that many bosses in havocs

[trim steppe]

If nothing else so I can get my kill penances done lol

[broken spade]

must've happened when i took a break from the game
sounds horrible

[forest scaffold]

The nurgle buff interacting with monstrous specials was the broken thing

instead of just giving stagger resistance, it also buffed their HP

[vernal trench]

Thet still do that

I think

[forest scaffold]

Well if its still around, then its still just as aids

multiple full health bosses at the same time is infuriating

[trim steppe]

During the nurgle event a few weeks ago, sometimes you'd get 5+ full health slugs at once

[vernal trench]

Whats aids is pus hardened bosses

Cant even shoot them

[forest scaffold]

well at least that's kite-able

not fun

[tropic notch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-goofy-cat-its-uncanny-gif-16237568065325474459

[forest scaffold]

but easily kiteable

[vernal trench]

Beast of nurglrs suck

[tropic notch]

Bon have become easy for me because of that event

[trim steppe]

Plague ogryn and BONs are easy en mass, but several chaos spawns or a DH in the mix and things go downhill fast

[forest scaffold]

I still can't dance chaos spawns lmao

Well

[tropic notch]

Soloing a dh is fun

[forest scaffold]

I couldn't when I played to be more accurate

[tropic notch]

I can only do it on zealot

[vernal trench]

Its more aids when ur in chasm logistratum in the tunnel with a beast of nurgle and a captain

[forest scaffold]

Never quite got the grasp on their attack moveset

[trim steppe]

It's easy enough on Psyker with the block with peril talent

[vernal trench]

Ground pounds x3 and thats pretty much entirely it

[forest scaffold]

mostly just dodging their grab

tbh

[vernal trench]

and some heavy pounds once in a while

[forest scaffold]

I'd always fuck it up some how

[vernal trench]

U gotta iframe it or dodge to the right

[trim steppe]

Dancing close melee with plague ogryn is peak for me. Miss and you get wrecked but dodge consistently and you can solo it in like 30 seconds

[terse idol]

You can dodge back their entire moveset

Just gotta space riight

[forest scaffold]

Oh yeah, I could fight plogryns in my sleep

and kite bons forever

not that my team ever shot them in the pus sack, but whatever

[trim steppe]

Learning that BONs only eat you if you're already goo'd was a game changer for my melee game

[forest scaffold]

I could, on occasion, solo a DH

but cspawns always left me a yamcha crater

[trim steppe]

Yeah CS are still somewhat enigmatic for me. I'm getting better at them but I don't ever go in super confident haha

[soft trellis]

I just am always ready to dodge slide against them

[hollow ibex]

the main thing about CS is dodging their grab

[soft trellis]

You never know when they're gonna go for the grab

[hollow ibex]

the grab's pretty telegraphed at least

[vernal trench]

Chaos spawn is probably the weakest boss tbh

[hollow ibex]

so it should gie you time

[soft trellis]

Sometimes it's fast, sometimes it is after 1-3 combos

[trim steppe]

That's easy enough, it's such a huge telegraph

[forest scaffold]

plague ogryn

by far

[vernal trench]

They do little to no danage even if u miss a ground pound

[forest scaffold]

head doesn't move

stupidly predictable moveset

[vernal trench]

Playue ogryns do way more damage

[forest scaffold]

very little punish for fucking up the dance

[hollow ibex]

yeah plogryn is just a big poxwalker

[forest scaffold]

as long as you don't get stomped, the damage is rarely relevant

the only dangerous part is getting yeeted off a ledge by said stomp

or just into a bad position, really

[vernal trench]

Lmao yea

[trim steppe]

So many runs ended by unfortunately plogryn yeeting

[forest scaffold]

We love hab dreyko

[sleek garden]

goodness gracious

[forest scaffold]

nothing like getting a plogryn before the chapel

where you're on the scaffolding

[vernal trench]

I forgot whcih one hab drayco is

[sleek garden]

braced auto suppression and infiltrate on clandestium gloriana first event is so helpful

[forest scaffold]

the slums inner city

with the infinite waves and gross tree minigame at the end of the mission

[sleek garden]

hab dreyko is the huge apartment blocks

[trim steppe]

Goop tree at the end

[vernal trench]

Oh man ghag map

Probbly my least favorite map

[forest scaffold]

I don't, or didn't I guess, like the changes to the final event on hab dreyko

the infinite waves were already obnoxious as fuck

but getting 15 ragers every 2 minutes is just stupid

[sleek garden]

the chasm terminus

[trim steppe]

The post-tree scaffolding run is probably the most failed part of the game for so many of my teams lol. People fall in holes or get trapped on the planks by ragers or pox bursters. RIP

[hollow ibex]

i like it, pretty intense

[hollow ibex]

yeah it's intense

[sleek garden]

its fun though

[vernal trench]

Its the one with all the rooms u gotta scan right

[hollow ibex]

lights out hab dreyko is the most intense run i had

[hollow ibex]

yeah

[vernal trench]

Its just boring and tedious to me

[forest scaffold]

Hab Dreyko itself is probably the most boring map in the game

until you get to the final event

then its hell let loose

[hollow ibex]

final event and escape is so good

[vernal trench]

Lmao i agree cuz the rooms searching is borig

[trim steppe]

It's like they set the director to 200% fuckery mode and let you have it

[forest scaffold]

Well it's that and the fact that the director just doesn't spawn enemies

because the map is too small

then it goes absolutely haywire at the final event

basically two different maps stitched together

[trim steppe]

Yeah they save all the enemies the whole game and give them to you all at once at the end

[forest scaffold]

that's an old man yells at cloud moment

I remember when hab dreyko didn't have airlocks lmao

[trim steppe]

Doesn't every map have transitions?

[forest scaffold]

Hab Dreyko was the only map without them for the longest time

it had one, right before the penultimate room

but the rest of the map was one gigantic arena

OH

[trim steppe]

Crazy, was that in beta?

[forest scaffold]

No

I lied

Enclavum Baross too

You could actually run Enclavum Baross start to finish with 1 person

while everyone else stayed in spawn

the only road block was the bridge event

[forest scaffold]

Nope

Hab Dreyko got its transitory airlocks like a year ago?

[trim steppe]

I've played since launch and straight up don't remember that

[broken spade]

I think it did have an airlock at the start

it did get reworked though

[forest scaffold]

In hab dreyko's case, they actually did it for performance concerns IIRC

[broken spade]

it used to be the best mission for speedrunning for flesh wound penance

[broken spade]

I do remember hab dreyko used to lag like crazy

[celest dock]

Yo I need some help with the On overwatch penance and was wondering if anyone could help

[broken spade]

that map was a good benchmark to test my settings

[forest scaffold]

I never really noticed it running any better or worse than other maps

Mostly just down to my hardware

[broken spade]

It was definitely worse back then

[forest scaffold]

darktide just ran like ass

[broken spade]

i don't know how it is now because i've upgraded since then

[forest scaffold]

r5 5600x and 1080ti

darktide no likey these

[broken spade]

i used to have a r5 3600 and rtx 2080 and the lag on hab dreyko was noticeble

now i have a 5800x3d and 4070 super so i can't tell anymore

[forest scaffold]

at some point that's my upgrade path

going to am5 is just "rebuild your whole computer" status

so 5800x3d and 4070 super

worry about the motherboard, ram, and am5 cpu later

[broken spade]

yeah it'll be a while before i upgrade to am5 or whatevers next
5800x3d still holding up

[forest scaffold]

one of the best cpus ever

up there with like intel core 2 duo

for overall impact

funny that intel went from that to "our cpus are nuking themselves because they're clocked too hot out of the factory"

[odd fox]

Can anyone do me a favor and transcribe this? I’m having a really hard time reading this font

[cloud thunder]

Open it. Zoom in. Problem solved.

[forest scaffold]

Be purged. . . Carry the Will

I can't be assed to do more than that

[odd fox]

Making the font bigger doesnt help my ability to read the font. Ingrate

[forest scaffold]

Carry the Will of the Emperor like a torch in the darkness is the second paragraph

[cloud thunder]

How can you not read it?

[proven garden]

whats the first word of the third paragraph

[tawny badger]

this is my best attempt
Be purged and know Salvation
Carry the Will of the Emperor like a torch in the Darkness
Seek for yourself a death worthy of remembrance
Rejoice in Repentance
I feareth no mutant
no heretic
no traitor
for the Master of Mankind is with me
(badass bird logo)
God Emperor, granteth me the strength to serve, the will to fight and the courage to prevail.
Above all, bestow upon me thy imperious hatred for only through hate shall humanity endure

[forest scaffold]

Seek for yourself a death worth remembrance

[cloud thunder]

Seek

[proven garden]

this font sucks

wtf

[forest scaffold]

it is the 40k font

[proven garden]

gives off series of miserable event vibes

[cloud thunder]

It’s just basically normal font

[tawny badger]

have you seen 40k

[cloud thunder]

But has end strokes

[proven garden]

no

i just play the game

[odd fox]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-adeptus-mechanicus-mechanicus-warhammer-tech-priest-gif-14919800332216808310

[proven garden]

potato mod also removes a lot of textures and whatnot either because its actually gone or because the game is so dark i cant see them

[odd fox]

Thank you, now i can recite this sermon at the start of every mission

[proven garden]

because potato mod also likes to remove a shit ton of lights

[tawny badger]

least blind #veteran-class member

[cloud thunder]

Last line is shalt, not shall

[tawny badger]

https://tenor.com/view/spunch-bop-spongebob-crying-cube-mr-krabs-gif-19973394

nvm I'm a fraud

[cloud thunder]

💀

You did good

[tropic notch]

My favorite method is mk 3 knife punch heavy spam

[tawny badger]

no heavy

only punch

[tropic notch]

Evil dh backshots

[forest scaffold]

Shield for me

two heavy attacks and shield stance

and I could take zero damage from a DH

[tawny badger]

a horrible idea just hit me

[forest scaffold]

IE planting the shield, not blocking, to preserve stamina

[tawny badger]

thorns for ogryn shield

[forest scaffold]

that is a terrifying amount of dreg ragers

good thing my ogryn can't read

or count

[tawny badger]

more than one

[forest scaffold]

7.6 billion dreg ragers?

probably about how many exist in one single hive city

[tropic notch]

Me apon seeing a lone dh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/899357233060646922/1204584525166936084/GIF_1932765774.gif

I can’t stop fighting them

Once you figure them out it’s so fun

[tawny badger]

step 1) trigger the dj
step 2) leave

[tropic notch]

That happened to me

The dude stole my dh

[austere mica]

DJ

Woe, poorly mixed mid ass music be apon ye

[tawny badger]

you know what

fuck it

dj

whatever

https://tenor.com/view/micah-bell-rdr2-red-dead-redemption2-red-dead-redemption-micah-death-gif-20119297

[faint beacon]

Thankfully I have mods so I can zoom into it further

but I'll try to translate it also

[tawny badger]

beat ya to it

oh wait that's

a different one

[faint beacon]

I'll do it from top to bottom

[odd fox]

Mods make me cringe, not hating on you but they do nonetheless. Idk why

[faint beacon]

Im going to say this right now its borderline fucking criminal the amount of extremely helpful information they hide from you that mods help with

Dodge Counts to be one especially

[tawny badger]

the humble ping indicator

[hollow ibex]

using mods to avoid carpal tunnel is cringe

you should just get carpal like a real man

[quartz falcon]

Gonna post this here because I still didnt get image perms in #zealot-class
Happy I finally got it (while being drippppyyyy)

[odd fox]

Oh shit and you did it fr fr, respect guardian. I was taken to orthos to do the bell skip, made it easier

[quartz falcon]

yeah we tried is as a team of two at the same time for weeks haha

we got it for my bro on the Train I think

[tame lodge]

Zealot is under lockdown
No pics allowed

[odd fox]

For some reason zealot out of all the other classes has all the weirdos

[quartz falcon]

and then i just said fuck it and we went Damnation Assassination with Vent Purge and just powered through (my friends switched to Zealot-Hammer and Zealot-Flamer

[quartz falcon]

well another reason to ditch the channel fr

[odd fox]

Maybe cuz its the most popular so statistically but

[quartz falcon]

too many unhinged people

when I dispute stuff here people at least show evidence or math, it's not just whoever types more ("screams their opinion louder")

unlike in Zealot

[faint beacon]

"I feareth no mutant, no heretic, no traitor, For the master of mankind is with me.

God Emperor granteth me the strength to serve, the will to fight, and the courage to prevail.

Above all bestow upon me thy imperious hatred for only through hate shall humanity endure.

Be purged and know salvation, Carry the will of the Emperor like a torch in the Darkness, Blessed be are the Merciless."

@odd fox

About the best I could translate it

[odd fox]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-wh40k-space-marine-imperium-of-man-the-rituals-gif-9583750509308972787

We are the righteous

[proven garden]

sounds like someone couldnt scream their opinion louder

[wanton dawn]

I AM LOUDNESS

[hollow ibex]

whats this zealot chat you speak of?

[austere mica]

What stuff were you disputing about zealot

[faint beacon]

Group Hallucination

[odd fox]

Why is zealot the most popular class ( from what ive seen)

[austere mica]

It’s vet

[faint beacon]

Zealot is second most popular if I'll be honest you have to take in consideration of who has more clueless players

its Veteran

veteran has a LOT more clueless players

[proven garden]

Fast, craps out damage, and from what I heard it was the easiest class to clutch up with

[faint beacon]

Coming from a TDR Crusher build

[proven garden]

Immortality is also a nice one

[faint beacon]

I managed a 5+ minute Clutch when soloing two Bosses

shit goes hard as hell

[odd fox]

Thats is very… conscientious of thee

[faint beacon]

This is coming from the Karker who dumped over 1k hours alone into Veteran and has seen the absolute worst of the worst

[forest scaffold]

More veterans need to buff ammo crates

I wish to throw nukes

[proven garden]

I don’t really care or remember other people ngl I can’t even remember the maps

[forest scaffold]

let me throw nukes

[faint beacon]

I've been very much conditioned into worry about yourself more than the team so I rarely take Improv outside of like Havoc

cause havoc you have to worry about your team

[odd fox]

A bad class is usually annoying however a bad zealot can literally bring the team down, i feel like zealot player realize they bad and either improve or stop playing zealot, heance why most are okay to really good

[forest scaffold]

Honestly its just pathing more than anything else. I get why veterans don't grab it

[faint beacon]

Ehhh?... I'd argue any bad class can drag a team down

[forest scaffold]

It'd just be nice ya know

[faint beacon]

however a bad Psyker

holy shit

you can feel it

[hollow ibex]

revive penance farm

[faint beacon]

You'll notice medicae vanishing insanely quick

[odd fox]

Hi im the bad psyker

[forest scaffold]

me on 50 health

psyker on 100 health but 1 wound

he eats the only medicae left

le sigh

[proven garden]

If a psyker holds smite on a trash horde for more than 3 seconds I instantly start taking note of every single barrel on the map

[faint beacon]

See what you do is trail by fire with Psyker

and do melee psyker

SG

no force weapons

and play till you can not use a single medicae hit

(I have done this and its fun as hell)

[odd fox]

Psyker always feels really bad because i feel so weak

[faint beacon]

Its a Glass Railcannon

[forest scaffold]

become one with the trauma staff

[proven garden]

Glass cannon playstule

[faint beacon]

you get hurt very easily

[proven garden]

Don’t get hit and hit them hard

[faint beacon]

but you hit like a fucking truck

[hollow ibex]

why do people call psyker glass cannon still lol

[forest scaffold]

you are literally invulnerable with the trauma staff

[hollow ibex]

they got a 25% buff in toughness last patch

[faint beacon]

Idk EE exists

lmao

[forest scaffold]

assuming you're not in vision of ranged enemies I guess

[hollow ibex]

and have the most defensive tools of any class in the game

[faint beacon]

But vs everyone else who has very easy to obtain TDR

Psyker is lacking

[forest scaffold]

But, if you can tuck yourself into a corner, infinite clutch potential with trauma staff

[odd fox]

I dont go down with any other class

[faint beacon]

so you have to very much balance when you should recover toughness and when to push

people

struggle learning this

[hollow ibex]

psyker's surv has always been based on their defensive tools

not base hp/tough/tdr values

people who don't understand this play psyker poorly

[faint beacon]

How do you play Psyker exactly

[hollow ibex]

and then complain psyker is squishy

when it's definitely not lol

[faint beacon]

Psyker is an insanely fucking strong class

but its gatekept by knowledge on it

I will say that

[proven garden]

Can’t remember any of the defensive tools besides bubble and shriek I just play melee psyker and kill things

[odd fox]

2 ways, the standard hold everything still (most successful imo) and my main build which is use main weappons mostly with fire shout and then pull out the needles for hordes

[hollow ibex]

it def takes adjustment coming from zealot or vet yeah

[proven garden]

It’s a smyker

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[faint beacon]

Thats your sin right there, Smite

its an insane bad habit

drop it immediately

[hollow ibex]

EP shriek smyker

[proven garden]

Of course you would think you are successful when the entire map isn’t moving

[faint beacon]

Like im not even saying it as like a

ermmm you're bad!

[proven garden]

That’s also why you fumble and die when they actually start moving

[odd fox]

I dont run it outside of high level like auric or havoc

[faint beacon]

its just an incredibly bad habit Blitz

[proven garden]

Just don’t run it in general lmao

[hollow ibex]

it can be good/fun

[faint beacon]

You only do it when your pathing requires it

and thats

[proven garden]

If you do run it that should be for the pathing and not the actual blitz

[faint beacon]

RARE

VERY RARE

[proven garden]

Damn you I have slow hands

[loud belfry]

i think it's time i pick up smite psyker. after 1.5k hours of not smite psyker i think i deserve it

[faint beacon]

@odd fox Anyways what you should probably do if you see yourself struggling with toughness is run assail

thats literally just free toughness

[odd fox]

Idk my friends a psyker main and when he runs smite and bubble we rarely lose high lvl stuff

[forest scaffold]

what was the smite bug back in the day

something about one of the keystones applying to electro staff?

[odd fox]

Thats the maine build i mentioned, but thats the one i die on the most

[forest scaffold]

I vaguely remember that

kinda funny interaction

[loud belfry]

i dont think the problem is that it's a bad build, it's that it's easy

[proven garden]

We aren’t saying that smite is bad we are saying that smite is so easy that it makes you as a player bad

[loud belfry]

and messes up the game flow a bit

[proven garden]

How are you gonna learn to dodge attacks and position if you can just make all the enemies stop moving and then raise a giant shield that blocks all projectiles

[rustic beacon]

What are the recommended blessings and perks for the cowboy revolver?

[proven garden]

That’s a trick question

You don’t learn

Then you die when the situation goes tits up

But that’s not gonna happen because smite and bubble are never going to let it happen

[odd fox]

Yeah, but when i play high stuff with my psyker im always with a group who either leaves me behind or dies over and over so i just take smite and bubble so they have no excuse i guess

[rustic beacon]

If the entire group leaves you behind you are probably too slow

[proven garden]

If your group is leaving the psyker in high level havoc just leave the group

Why should you kneecap your own progress for the sake of others who won’t even remember your name

[odd fox]

Bad logic, in high level stuff you need to stay together, maybe the psyker is stuck with a horde you didnt know about or maybe a armored enemy they dont have the peril to kill, bad tactics

[proven garden]

Just stop using smite and start learning to manage enemy priority and the horde

[hollow ibex]

well it's both

the knife zealot prob shouldn't be on the other end of the map

and the bubble psyker also needs to haul ass

[faint beacon]

Honestly I suggest you try something that encourages you to take full blown advantages of risks and rewards

which is literally just Running Scriers Gaze, and Disrupt Destiny

[odd fox]

Yeah, like i said i dont use it often but now i wont use it at all

[proven garden]

Good stuff

[hollow ibex]

i use smite on my palp build, it's very funny

[proven garden]

Believe it or not the game will feel harder when you no longer have a button that instantly pauses it but that just means you have more room to improve

[odd fox]

No that shit feels useless (had to run all that with assail for a penance and never has fun)

[hollow ibex]

SG and DD are insanely strong, esp on melee psyker

[faint beacon]

@odd fox I'd say avoid smite for a while till you learn what should and shouldn't be stunned cause you actively hurt Zealots when running Smite

thats the main reason its frowned upon

[proven garden]

I would only use disrupt on a melee build but scriers is good in general since it has a very low cooldown and also gives you steroids

[odd fox]

I barely ran it to begin with

[faint beacon]

Here's a match I did with SG DD (Rashad + A9 Vigilant + Assail)

[faint beacon]

Sharpshooter builds also

[odd fox]

Isnt there a website to send you my perk build? Also should move this to psyker class chat no?

[faint beacon]

but thats in itself is extremely niche

[faint beacon]

Doesn't really matter, mods dont really care as long as its not something unhinged

thank you mods

Besides veteran chat we tend to try to give good advice but you'll have people straight up giving misinformation

I blame mainly new players coming here first but that really isn't there fault

they're new

Also huge tip

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[tame lodge]

Games Lantern

[faint beacon]

Dont ever take builds from here

but use it to make your own builds

its useful information but thats kinda about it

a lot of builds on Games Lantern are like straight up terrible

[odd fox]

I want build help from you but idk think it would be best to send you my build first right

[faint beacon]

How do you want to play exactly

cause im very much a person who is Isanenly fucking aggressive when it comes to playing lmao

aka I tend to rush everything in eyesight

[proven garden]

My heart will literally seize up and die if I’m not moving forward and killing things

[faint beacon]

Havoc its the opposite its more like if I see even one person leave coherency I get pissy LMAO

[odd fox]

I play like a gunner but with a staff or rifle, use my assail for hordes and use shout with fire or bubble cuz i hate getting shot

[faint beacon]

Do you like the idea of shooting shit more or stabbing shit more thats my question

[odd fox]

Shoot

[faint beacon]

cause this will heavily lean into how I can toss you a suggestion

[proven garden]

Maybe brain burst might have better pathing for the soulblaze

[faint beacon]

Recon BB with Kinetic

Most likely

SG cause you can NEVER

pass that up on a gun build

Probably this guy with Deflector on like

FGS

[proven garden]

I mean if it’s staff give them the soulblaze shriek build

[faint beacon]

so he can defend himself in firefights

[proven garden]

I don’t run deflecter on my melee weapons ngl I just slide spam and pray

[faint beacon]

Anyways I'll think of something

Cause I never really do gun focused psyker

melee psyker is really fun over it

but its another good SG build

issue you tend to vaccum ammo like

a lot

[proven garden]

They said gun or staff give them one for both

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1004034244185694329/1116996807558451220/WateringMyHorse.gif

What staff/gun do you prefer using

[odd fox]

I just havent the in depth knowledge of psykers perks like i do zealots, i have a easy time dying to 1 enemy but i prefer to be the backline, mostly playstyle but perks to help that, @ me when you get something thanks

[faint beacon]

Cooking up something atm

[balmy flume]

Stuck in the Valkyrie lol

[umbral scaffold]

What type of curios should I have equipped for Veteran?

[trim steppe]

I think most people will say 3x toughness, or 2x toughness and 1x health.

I like to run 1 toughness, 1 hp, and 1 stam. I like the QOL that +3 stamina brings

[queen fox]

horse heresy

[proven garden]

2 toughness 1 stam

[umbral scaffold]

Guessing stam is kinda needed with Vet?

[unreal nova]

More important if you run Knife/DS.

[trim steppe]

its not needed unless you run deadshot talent, tho running stamina regen stuff is usually good. I just like more stamina for running, blocking, pushing, etc. It feels nice

[umbral scaffold]

Ah

[unreal nova]

You can skip on higher stam melees for more toughness or HP.

[trim steppe]

The number of times I go to push a pox burster and have nothing happen then get blown up is greatly reduced lol

[unreal nova]

It's basically a must if you run knoife or ds anyway.

[trim steppe]

I would say run 3x toughness or 2x tough and 1x hp. Once you feel super comfy, play around with different setups

[unreal nova]

2 stam to block and push...

YEAH.

[trim steppe]

a lot of people just add 2 stam as a knife perk instead of taking up a curio slot

[unreal nova]

Depends on what you use it for then. BP related and such.

[calm shard]

I do both

Those push attacks aren't gonna spam themselves

[tawny badger]

relic blade gameplay right there

[hollow ibex]

meta is 2x hp, 1x toughness. stamina is not required outside of deadshot memes. 2x tough and 1x hp can work, but you'll suffer in terms of curio perk options.

yeah what i said above is not for havoc, which is its own thing

[trim steppe]

1 each hp/tough/stam just feels very good. Well rounded for most situations you find yourself in.

Revolver getting dethroned by havoc is just. But the plasma will never die

[tall torrent]

Plasma scales better into density & has better ammo efficiency

[sleek garden]

i really want to perservere with a devils claw but the damage is so bad

you are kinda railroaded into taking things that do tons of headshot damage

[shrewd nova]

Axe is combat axe, right? So Rashad is still bonkers on vet?

Can you do a weapons specialist build with rashad + bolter/boltpistol and do all content?

[soft trellis]

It's still strong yes. Idk how good it is for havoc, but, for the base game it is still good

[trim steppe]

Yeah rashad and bolter is good on all content including havoc

I'd take DS for more reliable single target and Rashad for more reliable horde clear, depending on your preference and your team

[tall torrent]

Wouldn’t recommend Rashad + boltgun in the same build

[shrewd nova]

What's a good weapon to pair with rashad? ANd what's good to pair with bolter?

[trim steppe]

Rashad goes great with revolver in non-havoc. And it goes great with plasma in any game mode

[tall torrent]

Which mode

[shrewd nova]

Oh, I mostly play aurics and auric maelstroms.

[tall torrent]

revolver

by far the strongest

[loud belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/bvndit-dead-chat-dead-group-chat-lol-gif-26075659

[mighty arch]

Dum dum and infernus with the low damage high fire rate recon lasgun the move? What perks are y’all using on recon? I was thinking crit chance but not sure for the second perk

[umbral scaffold]

Across all classes or just vet?

[hollow ibex]

just vet

hitting the 200hp breakpoint helps massively against bursters and snipers

[orchid hemlock]

Flak

[hollow ibex]

unyielding because i'm racist against bulwarks

[orchid hemlock]

Just go rumbler Ogryn

[hollow ibex]

that requires me to play ogryn, which are one step away from being bulwarks 🤮

[orchid hemlock]

thats racist towards ogryns 😔

[tame lodge]

Dumdum Deathspitter better

[mighty arch]

So do I do higher dmg lower fire rate variant then?

[orchid hemlock]

i prefer Infernus because it has better upfront damage and damage to bosses, deathspitter is very useful at shooting thru hordes and getting a lot of damage out to kill a specialist that is inside a horde

[hollow ibex]

this was talking about curios, not recon las

for recon las i run infernus on the Mk VI personally

[mighty arch]

Ohh my bad lol I tunnel visioned

[hollow ibex]

at least you got some stamina / toughness back

[strong umbra]

[solar valve]

My man🤝

[tawny timber]

when are we making scoreboard posting illegal

[solar valve]

MkVIC is the goat for me

[hollow ibex]

not surei f you saw the scoreboard i posted yesterday, but in case not, here ya go

[narrow frost]

sorry

that was me

[lost seal]

Looks like something I would do

[rustic beacon]

🥳

[hollow ibex]

grats

scoreboard?

[rustic beacon]

Thx 💪🏻 Console, so don‘t have one

[hollow ibex]

was memeing because of the chat above lol, but grats lol

[fading yarrow]

@proven garden

[proven garden]

Who’s this

[fading yarrow]

[soft trellis]

The potato eater

https://tenor.com/view/potato-laugh-kepala-ubi-gif-1769729172946268170

[fading yarrow]

I call upon thy offer of Havoc 40 runs

From last night

[proven garden]

Oh ok lemme harass some people to get on

[fading yarrow]

[loud belfry]

[proven garden]

Alright no one is answering

[fading yarrow]

F

[unreal nova]

I'm too eepy to try even if I still need H40 for the week.

[fading yarrow]

Speaking of which, do you need to clear a H40 to get an H40's worth in rewards from the weekly cache or do you just need an assignment rank of 40?

[unreal nova]

Clear h40 every week.

[fading yarrow]

Whoof

[unreal nova]

Why I need to do it before sunday.

But no carries so, eh.

Might have to skip this week.

[austere mica]

@candid trout This has several possible minor variations you can make

[candid trout]

I will look into this after my shower

[austere mica]

Its my favorite vet build, give it a run

[candid trout]

no bleed on knife though?

[austere mica]

Bleed on knife is terrible

[candid trout]

this does seem very hivegang though so I do like it

also why is reload speed the dump stat for dbarrel?

[austere mica]

The accompanying fit in question

[austere mica]

You don't manually reload it

Always Prepared gives 3.3% of mag back per stack of weapon specialist when you proc it, which rounds up

[candid trout]

what does that mean in dumb people words

[austere mica]

So you kill 3 enemies and then quickswap to drop a 20 kill scatter into horde

And never have to actually load your gun

[hollow ibex]

i dump mobility

because in practice, you'll still need to reload at times

mob is also basically useless on DB

[austere mica]

Like

Twice

[hollow ibex]

it's not a gun that you run drawn out

in the vast majority of situations

[austere mica]

Yeah but extra dodge distance is nice

[candid trout]

also this is my go-to fit