veteran-class

[terse idol]

In repeat

[hearty panther]

so i dont have a lot of faith

also HD2 gives you 20 lives upfront to waste, its really not a big deal to die

[serene bough]

Part of me prefers they just keep to one audience

[terse idol]

Because you don't have the tools you need

Its not fun dying 15 times in a row

[serene bough]

I dislike when games have a split between casual v competitive

[terse idol]

And that's split across 4 players

[hearty panther]

I don't disagree that it isn't fun, but if you are dying 15 times on a 20 life system, you are probably a fucken moron out of their depth

[serene bough]

Not that hd2 is competitive

[terse idol]

That is what certainly hd2 has gone for and it did split people up

Who wanted a sweaty experience

Like exploit

[hearty panther]

And it was SO CLOSe

[terse idol]

Well not 25

Not 15

[hearty panther]

Worse than that for me is that they have a very intricate damage system and none of it fucking matters anymore lmao

just run the Lib Pen and the RR

pack a GL or a Revo

take thermites

youre done

[terse idol]

Its 4 players split across 20 lives and there's a good chance especially before where you're literally gonna need to run for like 5 minutes

To wait for your cd

Because your support weapon is stuck under a mountain of things you can't kill

[terse idol]

That's fair

They also broke it

And then had to fix it

[hearty panther]

boy did they

[terse idol]

Bugs! Everywhere

Naw its okie now

[hearty panther]

its silly too because most people werent dying because their weapons were weak, they were dying because they just suck at positioning

and ever since they let us stim at full hp

[terse idol]

Rember when explosions could decimate enemies because every explosion damage aoe was applying to every part

[hearty panther]

you really should almost never die

[terse idol]

And that was applying to helldivers

[terse idol]

I mean

Both

Can be true

Some people are genuinely shit

[hearty panther]

most

[terse idol]

But back when the lib pen

Had med pen but shit damage

Because durability reduced damage you delt WITH THE WEAPON that was meant to deal with med armour

There's alot of examples

[hearty panther]

yeah and i was still completing D9s with it lmao

people crying at D6, idk what to say

[terse idol]

If anything I'd still point to scorcher being a top pick because of explosive damage it packed just ignoring durability

[terse idol]

Doesn't mean it still wasn't shit lll

Cause i was too

[hearty panther]

oh it was

[terse idol]

[hearty panther]

but the notion of "well only like two weapons can be high level"

was always fucking stupid and incorrect

[terse idol]

Partially that's why we had scorcher meta

Still hated some of the changes

[hearty panther]

is the Breaker Incin better than the default Breaker? Like yeah obv

but you can still win with those tools if you werent actually vapid

[terse idol]

Well

Yeah it just sucked

[hearty panther]

same shit we see in DT

[terse idol]

And like most of it was reliance in eagle strikes and planetaries

[hearty panther]

you can do whatever you want but if some idiot's opinion is always "well why would i do that instead of just using dueling sword?"

but then they complain that the dueling sword cops a nerf

yknow

its like yea fucking obviously it would get nerfed when all conversation circles back to admitting its the strongest fucking item in the game

[terse idol]

Like I'm with you but also, like, I'd like that every game on the market ain't sweaty and saddly hd2 was changed

[hearty panther]

but we have so many tools in HD2 to use that one single piece of your kit should NEVER be the whole answer

but thats where we are now

[terse idol]

Omegalul

[hearty panther]

when they revealed the Revo was getting AP4

i left

i was like "oh they fucked this all up"

well thats not true

i did play the stinky gas warbond

and i remember feeling very bad for the enemy

deaf dumb and blind

bumping around

getting instantly evaporated by any piece of AT on the field

like mike tyson locked in a closet with dementia patients who dont even know they're stepping into a fight

[queen fox]

Hd2 should have leaned more into stratagems doing the work, not the players weapons

[hearty panther]

yes but players cried a fucking lot

and now here we are

[queen fox]

Lower the cd on all non-special wep stratagems

By like 50%

I should be able to fire my ships 16in guns as fast as they can reload

Bill me for the ammo cus capitalism

[hearty panther]

and the definite most pants-on-head insane shit to me is that they reintroduced the bugged damage models of the flame thrower, but also still buffed said flamethrower to AP4, meaning it could already achieve the thing people were using the bug to do (pierce leg armor on Chargers)

[queen fox]

No, it does not take 80 seconds to reload a 16in shell, it takes less than 30

[hearty panther]

and people said it was BETTER despite being PROVABLY WORSE

and thats EXACTLY WHY they did it

because it was appeasing people who did not have a fucking clue

[terse idol]

Well

People hated that

I did too

Cause like

[queen fox]

They didn't tho

Not hard enough

[terse idol]

The whole meme about the support weapons

Being your primary

And your primary just being backup

Was one of the shittiest takes

No fucking shot bro

[queen fox]

I'm not counting weapon stratagems

[terse idol]

That shot was mocked

But that's what you're suggesting

[hearty panther]

too bad it drove the rest of their balance philosophy

[queen fox]

I mean every other stratagem should have way higher uptime

[terse idol]

Stratagems being on 5 fucking minute cooldowns

Or 10 minutes

[terse idol]

No fucking waayy

I mean

To an extent sure

[hearty panther]

"Hmm I think I will try this Difficulty 9 mission, it has Strategem Modifiers to make the game more difficult."
-five minutes later-
"Omg these strategem modifiers are making the game too difficult."

[terse idol]

I gotta think about tjat

Waiting for a cooldown

Is insane

And that can literally be more than a quarter of the entire mission

[hearty panther]

yes i too begin screaming like a chimpanzee whenever my relic is on cooldown

[terse idol]

Well

You can't compare darktides cds

Because you have ways to reduce them

Lol

[hearty panther]

the cooldowns in HD2 are kind of a fucking joke?

like they were only really awful when you had all the modifiers packed on top, which was literally the point of the modifiers

[queen fox]

As an example, orbital precision strike should have a 6 shot magazine(9 with ship upgrade) and a 30s shell reload time, for 6/9 guns on the ship reloading indibidually

[terse idol]

Not for stratagem weapons no

[hearty panther]

but now you get six uses of an eagle run before being imposed a less than two minute cooldown

(or more depending how many you pack)

and thats on a 40m match timer

[terse idol]

I mean why even bring up darktide when you know you can reduce those cds

[hearty panther]

like you have a LOT of uses of everything

[terse idol]

In hd2 you fucking can't

[hearty panther]

OPS on a 60s cooldown

[terse idol]

I don't play ops

I play 110mm and 380mm

[hearty panther]

yea cause the balance got so fucken blasted to shit lmao

[terse idol]

And those have enough variance in them

That if they miss

[hearty panther]

that an orbital precision strike

is weaker than your fuckign rocker launcher

[terse idol]

I'm gonna be sitting on my ass for a long time

Well 60s

Like you said

Lmao

[queen fox]

Ops is just a single 380mm shell, same dmg model

[hearty panther]

yes and you used to need that

[terse idol]

I don't want to

[queen fox]

A single 16in shell

[terse idol]

Make this more hostile than it's getting

[hearty panther]

but now your dumb Queso Cannon or RR does multiples more damage and you carry it

[terse idol]

You don't like hd2 that's fine

[pastel pumice]

I luhhh hd2

[hearty panther]

like thats the issue

[terse idol]

I mean it just sounds like ops is bad

[hearty panther]

and yes, that's the issue

[terse idol]

So you want it buffed

[hearty panther]

not that OPS is bad but everything that went on around that to lead to that point

[terse idol]

Ops was like inconsistent at best because missing it one faster moving target sucked ass

Hit a hulk

[hearty panther]

we're now in a universe where the OPS does 3x the damage it used to do on 30s less of a cooldown and it is WORSE than the WEAKEST Anti-Tank launcher you can carry on your back

[terse idol]

Yeah

[hearty panther]

so of course you just take a 380mm

[terse idol]

Welcome to the difficulty of balancing

Like

Man

Jesus

[hearty panther]

so all of the power is placed on just the Helldiver unit

[queen fox]

ops with stun grenades is my build

[terse idol]

Hd2 just became a game you didn't like

[queen fox]

ops and 500kg with stun grenades

[terse idol]

You're taking two items for ops

It's weak

[hearty panther]

and yea Hulks were not that hard to hit man

[terse idol]

Without a stun grenade

[hearty panther]

3s call in time, they move 10m a second

[queen fox]

its versatile

[hearty panther]

do da maf

[terse idol]

And if you miss

Well

[queen fox]

500kg, ops and stun grenades means i can reliably take out any heavy enemy, and i can do it 3x quickly

[hearty panther]

not that it matters anyway since even the "nerfed Railgun" would fold them with one shot to the eye

[queen fox]

yeah hd2 players were whining about the wrong shit

they had milsim weapons for the player but not for the ship

[terse idol]

They did not want that later evidentally

[queen fox]

ship weapons are underpowered and need much lower cooldowns

compared to what a 16in shell falling from orbit should do, the bombardment we see is pathetic

[terse idol]

Sure

That's valid

[queen fox]

and they reload much faster

[terse idol]

well that was their whole system

[queen fox]

this was all perfected in ww2

[terse idol]

With every projectile being simulated

[terse idol]

Don't

Fucking talk about real life

[hearty panther]

granted canonically in Helldivers they start off by reloading their space-based cannons ... through the muzzle

as in

[terse idol]

Its a meme

[hearty panther]

float some dude out of the ship in a space suit

[queen fox]

i will talk about historical naval guns and there is nothing you can do to stop me

[hearty panther]

with an artillery shell

and push it down

which is so funny

[terse idol]

Me as I

https://tenor.com/view/stalin-photoshop-gif-25202160

[queen fox]

post the gif of the guy talking to the girl who is completely uninterested

[hearty panther]

which one

there's like twenty

[queen fox]

so 380mm and 16in shells are broadly similar in size/weight

reloading mechanisms for a 2-3ton bullet are complicated, but set up almost like a factory line to move powder charges and shells into the barrel. it was all done relatively effeciently and rapidly, iirc the iowa class 16in shells could fire 1 shell ever 10-15 seconds per barrel

they had a range of about 45 miles

and made a crater about 30 yards across

[terse idol]

That's not how super earth does it

[queen fox]

(which is like 25m for my freedom-impaired friends)

[terse idol]

I'm sorry to say

[hearty panther]

just like the playerbase, Helldivers are dumb

also the dudes on the bridge that we can talk to

[terse idol]

Talk about hd2 without insulting the playerbase or the devs design direction challenge level impossible

[hearty panther]

they have to be psychopaths, right

[terse idol]

No

[queen fox]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OmOQs0ziSU

[hearty panther]

like they just see an endless stream of fresh recruits

[queen fox]

here is the source

[hearty panther]

and they make small talk

and never see them again

[terse idol]

Yeah

[hearty panther]

and do it again anyway

[terse idol]

It's super earth protocal

[hearty panther]

fuckd up

[terse idol]

You don't know rhe amount of mental gymnastics I'm willing to do to justify in-game lore

They're all fighting for democracy

Of course you make small talk for the hero's about to die

And then you defrost the next ones

Or the automated system on the ship does

[hearty panther]

oh its not even smalltalk

its like, the one lady bragging about shit she has done since enlisting

to a 19y/o

[terse idol]

Well yeah that one lady talks about her goldfish

[hearty panther]

who she knows is going to die with 90% certainty

once they touch down on dirt lmao

[terse idol]

Yes the super earth citizens are mega brainwashed

[terse idol]

A small price to pay for democracy

[queen fox]

a small price to pay for the emperor

[terse idol]

Its no wonder the cyborgs revolted

[hearty panther]

"Ah but before you die vaingloriously for our galactic capitalist empire, did you know I programmed the ships firing systems myself? Pretty cool."

"Anyway off you go."

[orchid hemlock]

Speaking of HD2

[terse idol]

The average helldiver player when they see the viper commandos warbond

[hearty panther]

culture war nonsense is so dull

it was funny tho when peeps were like "give helldivers pride capes!!" and Arrowhead was like "yeah uh i dont think that sends the message you intend"

[orchid hemlock]

That's not an average player

That's the community director of Arrowhead 💀

Can we get a W in chat for Strawhat, NOT being an absolute incel? 🙏🏻

[warm bolt]

What's the best kantrael and power sword marks?

Also which blessings to go for on inf lasgun?

[hollow ibex]

mk2 for ilas, mk6 for PS

[warm bolt]

Aight thanks mate

[hollow ibex]

i run headhunter and ghost on ilas

[light ridge]

Havoc 25

[terse idol]

NOW AHH

I don't think piles meant it like that, it doesn't look like he knows what dei is

I just give people too many benefit of a doubt

[hollow ibex]

from the second tweet it sounds like they know

[hasty grove]

https://tenor.com/view/democracy-officers-traitor-freedom-camp-gif-16727483111821505126

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-no-strong-feelings-one-way-or-the-other-gif-14336652

[orchid hemlock]

Nah I think he did

[terse idol]

[pastel cipher]

where can i see the stats of the melee attack of the lasgun with a knife

[terse idol]

That's cringe!

[pastel cipher]

it seems quite strong, at least at low levels

also does it count as a melee weapon when it comes to the talents?

[hasty grove]

I just don’t think he cares (aka, the right answer)

[tall torrent]

Yes & no, it counts as melee attack but does not count as “melee weapon attack”

[elder dawn]

anyone got a havoc 40 build they like that isn’t running plasma

[terse idol]

He could have chosen the neutral response but he kinda flip flopped

[elder dawn]

plasma puts me to sleep

[terse idol]

But sure

[tall torrent]

So for example, desperado talent increases melee weapon’s crit chance by 10%, this does not apply to Helbore’s bayonet

[orchid hemlock]

Can we get some anti Grummz memes?

[terse idol]

Destroy Grummz

[pastel cipher]

damn that sucks, that weapon seems to like, really fit the veteran as a concept

[hasty grove]

What overexposure to the internet and culture war cancer does to the brain

[pastel cipher]

a veteran sounds exactly like someone that is so experienced they would make their ranged weapon be effective in melee combat

but whatever

[orchid hemlock]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da78034-dbda-4eff-aebc-f5660464fab7/vet-havoc-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

I'm still working on it

[hasty grove]

Anyone else be on Havoc missions still using the basic lasgun?

[elder dawn]

what weps you usually got on this?

[orchid hemlock]

Yes

[tall torrent]

It’s pretty good for havoc

[orchid hemlock]

Ghost + HH is very nice in Havoc

[tall torrent]

Axe
Plasma / recon / laspistol / boltpistol

[terse idol]

Its alright for ragers

[grand perch]

ive gone laspistol > plasma > helbore and i feel like helbore is my sweet spot

[terse idol]

If you're speaking of like helbore bayonett

[grand perch]

i can leave all ammo for flamer zealot

[light ridge]

Does he realize that the standard setting randomly changes the gender of your diver after you die?

[elder dawn]

i figured recon las seems good at high level havoc just for the ammo economy

[tall torrent]

Recon is ok

[orchid hemlock]

Recon is prob the least ammo eff lasguns

[elder dawn]

with the crit talent?

[orchid hemlock]

The reason why it's good is mostly because it is the best weapon to proc Infernus, which counters pus harden skin

[elder dawn]

makes sense

[grand perch]

crit strings dont all proc shock trooper iirc

only the first shot

[tall torrent]

They do, it’s been patched

[grand perch]

oh ok cool

[hasty grove]

Im sad we don’t really have any “John Guardsmen” cosmetics yet

I just want the regular ass armor with nothing special most of the Guard uses

[tall torrent]

Isn’t that in the commissary somewhere

[hasty grove]

If it’s in the commissary it’ll be a miracle if we ever see it again

I just want this look

[hearty panther]

ilas got such a funny glow up going into havocs

[terse idol]

Hmm we kiinda have that

[hasty grove]

Exactly, we kinda have it

[terse idol]

It's just that red armour or the green armour in the ordo cosmetic shop

[tall torrent]

we kinda do have that

[hasty grove]

Thats commissary armor so I doubt imma ever see it

[tall torrent]

That’s not commissary armor

That’s from commodore’s vestures

[hasty grove]

Thsts what I meant

[terse idol]

Just gotta wait for the rotation

[hasty grove]

Premium shop

[tall torrent]

They’re 2 different things

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/skeletoncrazy-gif-12619534970173952101

[tall torrent]

You can get smth similar in commissary still, I believe

[hasty grove]

Yeah, ik. Just mixed up the names

[tall torrent]

Besides, what u posted is not “most of the guard”

It’s just Cadian guard

If going by population, “most of the guard” would be Krieg lol

[hasty grove]

My point still stands

I want that look sm

[grand perch]

"Cadia was the guard, Cadia IS the guard. Everyone else copies what we do" - female cutthroat

[hallow drift]

There’s some regular looking lightly armored green guardsman top in commissary. I rocked it on my vet for a while with the black cap

[terse idol]

You can

[hallow drift]

Good luck waiting on Cadia top to come back though

[terse idol]

If you can call Vitae womb people 'people'

[hasty grove]

This is the closest I can get without waiting months for that armor to come back (and its still not exact) and than shilling out like 20-30 bucks for it

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-warhammer40k-vraks-siege-of-vraks-death-korps-gif-20931228

[grand perch]

i want these guys, drookian fenguard

[hallow drift]

My buddy has been waiting since he missed it the first time but he’s burned out of the game so he’ll prolly miss it if I don’t catch it lol

[hasty grove]

It’s never gonna come back

[terse idol]

It will

[faint beacon]

Cadian sets tend to come back commonly

[terse idol]

Cause they gotta sell the scion helmet again

[faint beacon]

they just keep feeding us the slop that is recolored base armors

[hallow drift]

I rock this top with the black commissar cap now ^^

[hasty grove]

If it does it’ll be months down the line 😭

[tall torrent]

It’s like 12 (?) USD for a 2400-aquila bundle

[terse idol]

I ate some of the slop saddly

[faint beacon]

besides Vostroyan stuff was dug up

they might be next

[terse idol]

The blue krieg got me

[light ridge]

All free

[hallow drift]

^^

[hasty grove]

Not the look I’m going for tho

[terse idol]

Me as I point to the waiter

"More slop please!"

[faint beacon]

These guys

[hasty grove]

I have all those cosmetics

[hallow drift]

I liked that for a while. Only problem is that it’s a very common look despite being really cool

[hasty grove]

The standard Cadian green armor with the tan coat and pants underneath, no little extra doohickies and accessories on the armor

It’s all I want

https://tenor.com/view/agony-gif-23084585

[tall torrent]

I like this

[serene bough]

Id like to see other regiments

Tanith pls

[light ridge]

Valhallan but I suppose they passed by already

Catachan tank top

[hasty grove]

I’d also love to see the Steel Legion return

But that’s a pipe dream

[light ridge]

Love those pants and boots

[serene bough]

Tanith & Mordian id really wanna see

[faint beacon]

Look I lucked out even getting all the Steel Legion uniforms cause I know damn well they're not returning for another 6 months

[serene bough]

Catachan 3rd

[hasty grove]

If ever

[tall torrent]

Love the gas mask clipping through the collar

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/894568981946576916.gif?size=48&name=FloppaShake&quality=lossless

[faint beacon]

its peak

[grand perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1153279327513886770/1231847235680206848/image.png?ex=677ac8e3&is=67797763&hm=0c7aba54d87969fffc0bb7660da69e77bb3817fcab84a814c0b73f0ed9d41ce7&

[terse idol]

[grand perch]

my alltime fav

[calm shard]

which bolt pistol blessings are the ones that apply to grenades again

[tall torrent]

Lethal proximity

[faint beacon]

Lethal Proximity

[orchid hemlock]

Me with no money: 😔

[serene bough]

Currently got the golden bandana w/ 53rd armor

[faint beacon]

the other uniform I run

[crimson pebble]

something something cadia

[hasty grove]

These are all my outfits

If you couldn’t tell I love me some Cadian Guard

[oak gorge]

waiting for them to release summer beach skins like in overwatch

need my ogryn to have a big life preserver round his tummy

[hasty grove]

Omg MHA collab like in Overwatch when???

[remote sonnet]

Master Chief crossover when?

I want my John Halo.

[orchid hemlock]

Ogryn in one peace

[hasty grove]

Ogryn in a hot pink speedo

[orchid hemlock]

No pedos pls ☠️

[remote sonnet]

Nah, Ogryn in mankini.

[orchid hemlock]

Thong

[hasty grove]

That says “for da emprah” on the fromt

[remote sonnet]

It should say "Seeded by the Emperor"

[hasty grove]

Wish I was seeded by the emperor

What?

[remote sonnet]

What?

[hasty grove]

I didn’t say anything

[remote sonnet]

Heresy

[oak gorge]

god what i would give to trade places with the emperor's catheter

[remote sonnet]

[orchid hemlock]

Wait are Ogryns all men?

Or are they all just non binary? 🤔

We can't choose a gender for Ogryns, does this mean they are non binary confirmed?????? 😭

[wanton dawn]

Y'all need Guilliman bonking you on the head

[long condor]

im thinking, the rejects kill on average like 2000-3000 traitor on non havoc difficulties. so how many could a single space marine go for on an auric level mission

[formal ice]

Ogryn is men because ogryns are all men

[orchid hemlock]

Wait so all Ogryns are gay? 🤔

[serene bough]

There are lady ogryns

[formal ice]

Shush

[orchid hemlock]

Can they get anymore based?

[serene bough]

Just not here

[oak gorge]

I don't need a lady ogryn i'd happily be a male ogryn's malewife

[orchid hemlock]

[oak gorge]

i will cook and clean and raise the baby ogryns

[remote sonnet]

Lady Ogryn? Death by snu snu?

[orchid hemlock]

Preggo Ogryn AI art when?

[oak gorge]

for all we know they might already be pregnant

they do have the bump

[faint beacon]

@tidal reef

[pastel pumice]

thought i was in zealot chat for a hot minute due to all this weird shit going on in chat rn

[wanton dawn]

I think the horny escaped from zealot chat

[pastel pumice]

had to rub my eyes to realize i was wrong

[orchid hemlock]

Weird?

[serene bough]

Zealot chat is truly the savage backwater of this entire discord

[pastel pumice]

Indeed

[oak gorge]

how is it horny to want to raise a family with an ogryn who sleeps in the same bed as me and we sometimes make out

[wanton dawn]

Get back to zealot chat or you get grandma sandal

[oak gorge]

no i yield!

not the sandal anything but that

[wanton dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/no-music-coco-mad-mama-coco-mad-no-music-coco-mad-gif-19170893

[oak gorge]

wait she reminds me of an ogryn

[oak gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/animals-cute-hippo-adorable-aww-gif-7257945

[wanton dawn]

This is acceptable

[oak gorge]

do you think moo deng would bounce if you dropped it

[orchid hemlock]

Moo Deng chat when?

[pastel pumice]

Waiting for visored helmets

Peak peak peak peak

[serene bough]

What is this hippo called again

[wanton dawn]

She would make a fine pair of glove

[oak gorge]

Moo Deng

but there are others...

the Mooltiverse of Moo Dengs

[serene bough]

Is cute

But God do i hate hippos

[oak gorge]

normal hippos i agree

pygmy hippos are cute tho

less smelly and can't kill you

or would at least struggle to

[serene bough]

Theyre all monsters deep down

Terrifying creatures

[remote sonnet]

Beluga!!!

[orchid hemlock]

I can watch this all day 🍿

[serene bough]

Belugas are cute

Theyre also very sassy

[wanton dawn]

Tasty too !

[serene bough]

Never eaten what does it taste like

[wanton dawn]

Chicken

[wanton dawn]

Idk i wont go out of my way to eat it

[oak gorge]

i've always wanted to eat a dolphin

[orchid hemlock]

Sigh

Ur talking to one

[oak gorge]

look man i just need to know like is it meaty or fishy

[orchid hemlock]

U could just ask amh my head

[serene bough]

This is always such a disappointing answer

[orchid hemlock]

It tastes like a mix of beef and tuna

[remote sonnet]

I ate Beluga, too. Its texture does resemble chicken.

[oak gorge]

beefy tuna sounds interesting

bring me a dolphin

[orchid hemlock]

Only reptiles taste like chicken

[serene bough]

Idk if I want to eat dolphins, sharks, or whales

I appreciate them too much to want to eat them

But God damn do i love seafood

[remote sonnet]

Shark is the most disappointing meat.

[wanton dawn]

Litteral chicken taste

[oak gorge]

i'd eat a giraffe if i could get my hands on one

[oak gorge]

honestly there's not much i wouldn't eat

[serene bough]

Yeah im a huge eater

[oak gorge]

besides any sort of cat

[serene bough]

Love food

Cat & dog i don't eat

I want to try horse

[oak gorge]

i'd eat a proper wolf but not a dog

[remote sonnet]

I ate a lot of stupid stuff... I grew up in SEA...

[serene bough]

Whats the dumbest thing you've ate

[arctic rampart]

an attorney

[wanton dawn]

Its beef with stronger taste

[serene bough]

Sounds delicious

[remote sonnet]

Now thinking twice of it, I don't think that I want to say.

I ate ostrich.

[serene bough]

👀

[arctic rampart]

ostrich is kind of like dry beef

[serene bough]

Is there a difference in flavor between an ostrich vs emu

[remote sonnet]

Which is far from the stupid stuff.

[arctic rampart]

less fat I guess

[serene bough]

I know people farm raise emu for their meat

[remote sonnet]

Alligator and crocodile

[oak gorge]

after seeing baby emus i couldnt eat one 😭

[remote sonnet]

Snakes

Sea worms

[oak gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-ostrich-cute-baby-funny-gif-3484058

[arctic rampart]

yeah you could Fab. if you were starving you'd fuckin geat it

[oak gorge]

no id eat myself

[serene bough]

I woke up and saw an emu in my backyard

I realized then I lived close to a farm

[oak gorge]

becoming a singularity and imploding

[arctic rampart]

That's not how it works as a human

[oak gorge]

you don't know you're not a scientister

them science people can explain anything

[arctic rampart]

You need multiple stellar masses to be able to have an actual singularity form

[oak gorge]

nuh uh what if i was really hungry

[wanton dawn]

\yourmotherjoke

[remote sonnet]

Damn, now looking back, sea worms are gross as fuck.

How the fuck did I eat that.

[arctic rampart]

the sun weighs 1.9*10^30 (30 zeroes) gram mass soo you're a bit short there fella

[oak gorge]

the hell is a sea worm

[oak gorge]

just a few more mince pies innit

nearly there

[arctic rampart]

Seeing how darktide is built upon british urban fighting I approve the language flavor

[oak gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-fly-darktide-explode-goodbye-gif-16510274390543607132

Urug seeing his pal eat his own legs and explode

[serene bough]

Never liked physics

[remote sonnet]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nereididae

[oak gorge]

aint no way you ate this thing

[wanton dawn]

Snail are still considered weird for english ppl ?

[oak gorge]

almost no english person would eat a snail if you told them what it was

unless they're rich

[remote sonnet]

It is one of the traditional plate...

[wanton dawn]

Oyster is pretty weird too

[serene bough]

He's from SEA id believe it

[oak gorge]

oysters are ocean bogeys they're nasty as hell

[serene bough]

Oyster is the best

Fuckin love oysters

[oak gorge]

honestly i like most seafood but i draw the line at oysters

super easy to get sick from them too

[wanton dawn]

Raw or cooked ?

[oak gorge]

i poop enough blood as it is i don't need more coming out i'll have none left

[serene bough]

Raw

[wanton dawn]

My man

[serene bough]

Right out of the half shell

[remote sonnet]

I avoid to eat raw seafood.

[wanton dawn]

Definite acquired taste. Taste like the sea

[oak gorge]

honestly don't even bother with Whelks its like eating a car tire

[remote sonnet]

I have trust issue with any kind of raw meat.

[oak gorge]

beef can essentially be eaten raw with no real consequences

but why would you

[wanton dawn]

Cuz good

[remote sonnet]

I do, but in small quantity. Otherwise, at least rare cook.

[wanton dawn]

Carpaccio is great

[oak gorge]

tbh the reason i don't eat much pork (especially if i haven't cooked it) is because of the literal brain worms it can give you

[remote sonnet]

Seafood however, have way too many kinds of parasite.

[oak gorge]

aint never ordering pork in a fast food place

[hasty rain]

Atrox... take highest mark and use blessing that stack strength on hit?

[wanton dawn]

Well, eating raw pork is dumbdumba

[oak gorge]

yeah but i'm talking n ot properly cooked

still carries the risk

[serene bough]

Medium rare chicken

🙂

[oak gorge]

lol that image is burned into my subconcious

[remote sonnet]

Eat British cow so you can become Nurgle's servant.

[oak gorge]

that lady definitely got very sick after that if it wasnt a joke

whats wrong with british beed besides mad cow disease

feeding cows other cows instead of grain just a bit of a laugh innit

[remote sonnet]

Mad cow is nothing at all... you can carry on.

(Inquisitor? That guy right there.)

[oak gorge]

i didn't do anything wrong officer reaches for your servic e weapon

[wanton dawn]

Well, good thing about mad cow is that it doesnt matter if cooked or raw

You die either way

[oak gorge]

just like rabies

[wanton dawn]

Rabies has a vaccine

[wicked cedar]

can someone give me a good recon build

w shovel

[oak gorge]

yeah but if you catch rabies proper there is literally no cure you go mad and die

[remote sonnet]

Guys, help the guy out on this build.

[wanton dawn]

I dont like recon

[remote sonnet]

My builds are so off meta that I can't recommend anything.

[oak gorge]

i never use the shovel tbh

unless i have to

[wicked cedar]

i'd also like to try helbore

or infantry autogun if thats the proper one to use

im jsut tired of knife/shotgun already

plays too much like zealot

[oak gorge]

well for hellbore you can essentially go toughness and shouty vet and it works pretty well without too much adjustment

[sleek garden]

infantry autoguns are cool

big headshot multiple

works great with exy stance

[remote sonnet]

Every time I post my build here, I got sent to feed the Flesh Easters.

[wanton dawn]

That's because ppl like to flaunt their build making skills

except they recommend bullcrap too

[oak gorge]

i know for a fact my builds are garbage my plan is to bring everyone else down to my level

then our utopia can begin in earnest

[remote sonnet]

My builds are honestly way off meta.

[wicked cedar]

blessings on helbore?

[serene bough]

Everyone's different

I like how builds can be modulated to fit peoples playstyles and preferences

[crude fiber]

Surgical is very good choice, then either hotshot or the faster charge rate blessing

[remote sonnet]

Which model?

[wicked cedar]

idk

xD

[remote sonnet]

Surgical and Armourbane works well on the fast one, which I like.

The other 2, some people suggest Surgical + Weight of Fire.

[wanton dawn]

That's why my build is great and yours is doodoo. Admire me now

[wicked cedar]

uny or cara

[tame lodge]

Surgical Weight of Fire

[remote sonnet]

Generally carapace

[wicked cedar]

shovel blessings?

i'm assuming uncanny and take a swing

[terse idol]

Thrust uncanny for the sapper shovels

[tall torrent]

do u enjoy aiming without sights

[hollow ibex]

uncanny and skullcrusher for mk1

[tall torrent]

surgical + float (depends on variant)

[remote sonnet]

Brutal Momentum then either thunderous (which is uncanny but no weakspot needed) or perfect strike (If you run WS)

[wicked cedar]

yes

[remote sonnet]

Wait, nvm, it is uncanny

Thunderous is for another weapon.

[tall torrent]

fyi hotshot blessing applies to melee

[wicked cedar]

say what

so i could take hotshot and skullcrusher

[tall torrent]

all (melee, ranged) weakspot hits consider the target hit as 0.5x mass

if u have a helbore lasgun equipped with hotshot blessing

[wicked cedar]

thats crazy

[terse idol]

Uncanny and skull crusher for standard*

[terse idol]

What would you pair it with?
Like does it change anything for horde clear with ds?

[tall torrent]

no, because duelling sword's atk angles are horrible for multi-weakspot-hit vs horde

[wicked cedar]

what keystone

[tall torrent]

u want pure horizontal swings

[faint beacon]

You know hotshot works globally right if you do plan to use Helbore

[tall torrent]

shock maul / shovel both benefit from it noticeably

[faint beacon]

turn the shovel into a fucking BM shovel lmao

[tall torrent]

either left or middle

also take agile engagement on helbore

if u aren't using mk4

[faint beacon]

Im gonna be dead serious

why

[grand perch]

it does fucking WHAT

[faint beacon]

That deploy time makes me consider not touching it

[terse idol]

Gotta take uhh

[faint beacon]

Yuppers

[terse idol]

The swap talent and b4b

[grand perch]

thats huge

[crude fiber]

So what are all the blessings that currently apply globally and not just for the weapon its on

[terse idol]

Instantly get agile from melee kills on bayonett

Swap melee

[crude fiber]

Hotshot, lethal proximity

[faint beacon]

uncanny iirc

[crude fiber]

Ye

[terse idol]

Or lord forbid the funny kill melee swap helbore charged shot

[tall torrent]

because agile engagement is not coded like weapon specialist (kill made while melee/ranged weapon is in hand)

it instead works as "melee/ranged attack kill" which means helbore can use both parts of the buff on its own

stab a guy, ur gun gets +25% dmg for 5s

shoot a guy, ur bayonet and melee get +25% dmg for 5s

it's so simple it just works

[hearty panther]

its so fun

[tall torrent]

if weapon specialist was coded differently it would have synergized perfectly with helbore

[terse idol]

Knowledge

My brain is expanding

[tall torrent]

this has been a thing since the introduction of skill trees

[hearty panther]

probably anyway

helbore bayonet used to suck so nobody was using it lmao

[faint beacon]

Doesn't help how Hotshot also just gives you innate 50 Cleave on weakspot hit regardless of if its Gun or Melee

[tall torrent]

it's not 50 cleave

it's x0.5 mass on weakspot hit

[faint beacon]

so its literally just BM for weapons that dont have BM

[tall torrent]

tooltip is wrong

[faint beacon]

STUPID AND DUMB

[grand perch]

if only agile engagement wasnt so far from survivalist 😦

[hearty panther]

shock and awe if it wasnt shit

[tall torrent]

helbore doesn't need survivalist unless u run it in havoc

[grand perch]

thats precisely what im talking about

[terse idol]

Me as I continue to bring helbore for maelstrom scab only no ammo pickups

[hearty panther]

even then you can go without tbh, depends on what the rest of your team packs

[terse idol]

Its very ammo efficient

[tall torrent]

u can actually afford it tho

depends on ur melee choices

[wicked cedar]

i don't like helbore

[hearty panther]

wrong

[wicked cedar]

oh ok

actually

i dont think the issue is helbore

i dont think i like the shovel

:V

[tall torrent]

helbore is like the only way u can make shovel be somewhat worth playing in havoc

[remote sonnet]

Screaming under the gas mask.

[grand perch]

psword but i dont think i wanna miss trench fighter or anything

[loud belfry]

i like bolter :))) is fun

[serene bough]

Helbore draw time is instant turn off for me

Too slow

[remote sonnet]

When in doubt, run plasma.

[hearty panther]

the trick is to never put it away

[arctic rampart]

we got dueling sword. time for vets to get staffs too

[remote sonnet]

Why do you even need to swap when it already has a melee on it?

[wicked cedar]

no

[serene bough]

Bayonet can't do it all

Especially bc i value knife mobility

[remote sonnet]

Then you haven't stab hard enough.

[hearty panther]

once couched the bayonet gives you a sprint speed bonus

10% 20%? Dunno

[serene bough]

Helbore is my least favorite weapon

[remote sonnet]

Stab the enemy then die with them like a real filthy Krieg.

[serene bough]

Bayonet shenanigans were funny when it interacted with blessings, otherwise I really dislike

[tall torrent]

wish hotshot was available on infantry lasgun

[vital wren]

I used it some leveling because it just staggers things so hard and the volume of enemies was low

[grand perch]

#veteran-class message

[remote sonnet]

All the Krieg deserve it

[tall torrent]

this is why u should run health curio on veteran

[grand perch]

thats 40 havoc my man

[tall torrent]

yea

health curio would have saved u

burster is 100 dmg

veteran has 97.5 health with max havoc scaling

[remote sonnet]

Most ILG blessing are so bad, I wish they tweak it.

[crude fiber]

I feel like I don't get hit by burster/snipers almost at all in havoc

[faint beacon]

Instant death

Instant L

[grand perch]

i mean i could just not accidentaly headshot stab bursters instead

[crude fiber]

3 out of 9 ain't bad

[tame lodge]

So what I'm getting is
That I should pair AE with No respite

[remote sonnet]

Because most of the time, if you get hit by anything, you are already near the death bed.

[tame lodge]

(just looking for excuses for bayo build)

[hearty panther]

vet starts with 100 base toughness so it feels wrong to not be maxing it out in havoc

me on Psyker making do with fucken 55 toughness lmao

nah not tripled up

[serene bough]

2 toughness 1 stam

Thats what I use

[remote sonnet]

3 toughness on Ogryn for Havoc for me.

[serene bough]

Not that I bother much w/ havoc anymore

[hearty panther]

ITS 25

poor psykers

[remote sonnet]

I still run 2 toughness for psyker.

[hearty panther]

two hp one stam

[serene bough]

I got the armor cosmetics then stopped playing it

I feel is generally worse than auric

[remote sonnet]

I think some of the Auric Mael are way more shitty than Havoc.

[serene bough]

And the modifiers just suck

[remote sonnet]

This morning I went into a game, at the very 1st section, 4 minor monstro and 1 big monstro came out... Can't do shit.

[serene bough]

Maelstrom has enough enemies, havoc has more but bloats their hp pools and hitmass

[loud belfry]

i think the game is unable to push many more enemies before it lags on even the best of the best

[remote sonnet]

I think Mael has more enemy. Havoc they are just more tanky and you are more squishy.

[serene bough]

It could definitely use a bit more density, but the havoc approach where you just dump more w/ higher HP and rely on DoTs is so boring

[pastel pumice]

Whos gonna tell him

[serene bough]

Maelstrom is the right difficulty setting where you have far more build flexibility and don't always need to play as a team 90% of the time

Havoc is just cc & DoT spam as you funnel enemies into a choke

Yeah thats much better to me

I hate pus armor especially

Yeah, why not, you get to play fast and aggressive and everyone is still able to play and kill things if they play well

You don't need such strict team cohesion

Havoc is too slow

Generally everything takes longer bc hp bloat for enemies and worse hp for players

[hearty panther]

its slow if you're hard crutching on Psyker bubbles for sure

[serene bough]

I.e. longer to kill and more punishing for mistakes

[hearty panther]

otherwise they arent that much longer in my experience in any way that a normal game also runs longer, ie. The team is getting constantly fucked up and downed

[serene bough]

Maelstrom is definitely not 15min on average

[serene bough]

I dont got a full squad just some randoms, but yeah im sure if you had a group going it would be faster

But generally I finish maelstrom within 20-30min depending on the map and havoc was 40-50min

And when the meta is just spam CC and DoTs, zzzzzzzz

[pastel pumice]

Meta this...

Meta that..

You ever meta girl before?

[serene bough]

What's that?

[pastel pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-big-boss-metal-gear-solid5-metal-gear5-mgs5-gif-21817077

[serene bough]

At any rate, the game modes have different playstyles, i just think HP bloat generally makes it feel an inferior option

[wicked cedar]

blessings/perks for psword/recon?

[tall torrent]

Elite + maniac for power sword VI
Power cycler
Brutal momentum / sunder (preference)

Flak + 5% crit chance for recon (VIc / XII)
Flak + maniac for recon XIV
Dum dum for all variants
Deathspitter for XIV, infernus for VIc / XII

[wicked cedar]

oh its okay

dont worry

800k gold

no good psword

[tall torrent]

Why

U want cleave target dump

Did u chase a mobility dump or smth

[wicked cedar]

[faint beacon]

I just got called a Krieger

im ending it

@tall torrent hotshot shovel match btw

[tall torrent]

It’s ok

I don’t like shovel in the first place

[faint beacon]

yeah well... shovel doesn't like you either path...

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/894568981946576916.gif?size=48&name=FloppaShake&quality=lossless

[faint beacon]

Straight up when I saw Kreiger get typed out I instantly died inside LMAO

[tall torrent]

Yea too bad steel legion is just Krieg 0.5

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/894568981946576916.gif?size=48&name=FloppaShake&quality=lossless

[ocean idol]

???

[faint beacon]

Kreiger in question:

[tall torrent]

yea krieger 0.5

[vital wren]

steel legion is legit, krieger overrated

[elder dawn]

what are some good bolter blessings fellas

[clear bone]

I usually run the one that gives toughness for amount of shots fired and the brittleness debuff.

[umbral grove]

What does brittleness do exactly, does it just break or reduce the enemies armor?

[wanton dawn]

same as rending but as a debuff on enemies

[pale pecan]

@tall torrent Just got this how do I not brick it

[pale pecan]

This is an interaction that would happen in a book

"Hey Krieger, how long have you been at it?"

"Krieger?"

"Yeah you with the gasmask."

[bitter vessel]

where can i learn to move better with dueling sword?

[paper trellis]

i finally got a perfect health curio... on my psyker

[tame lodge]

Sprint Light attack slide

There's this small lunge

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jqkXfwssF1Tykt53r?invite=cr-MSx1ZjMsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

[paper trellis]

actually you know what, is it worth it to get that 200 hp breakpoint on psyker?

[wanton dawn]

It is always a treat when top damage is overkill damage

[tawny badger]

chat I don't think we're dying on this mission

[wanton dawn]

I might consider removing some damage node

[tame lodge]

It's like
2 bursters

[faint beacon]

2 whole bursters

VALUE

[tall torrent]

Be lucky

[tall torrent]

Yea

[hasty rain]

I'm using the atrox axe, what blessings should I be using?

I assume weapon strength on hit and weakspot hit dmg?

[muted elbow]

Brutal momentum and Headtaker

[tame lodge]

Shred Headtaker is also an option

[hasty rain]

And I should just be using the highest mark, right?

[tame lodge]

2 or 7

[hasty rain]

Yeah 2 felt better for hordes but 7 better for singles

[tame lodge]

Mk4 if you can M1 really, really fast

[hasty rain]

I also feel like I need stamina because only 3 blocks seems really poor?

[tidal reef]

who dare summon me

oh the preggo ogryn

he is in bikini

[serene bough]

Pls no

[frail citrus]

which Mk is that hellbore?

i used the heavy one for a minute forever ago but clearly im sleepin

[calm shard]

sounds like IIIa

but MkIV (the heavy one) is the one that doesn't have that bayonet

[tame lodge]

Most likely the 5

Fast charge

Hotshot blessing

Stabby

[calm shard]

nah 5 doesn't make that sound

at least I don't think it does

[tall torrent]

It’s mk5

[calm shard]

oh wait yeah the weapon silhouette is the mk 5s

keep forgetting what that things bayonet looks like

so few people use it

[hasty rain]

Saved. Thank you.

[tidal reef]

just to make sure, I actually drew that and will deny drawinng it

if use in evidence

i plead the fifth

[hasty rain]

Too late. This is the start of your Chris chan arc

[tidal reef]

https://tenor.com/view/i-plead-the-fifth-chappelle-dave-chappelle-fif-gif-18402538130141355268

[fading yarrow]

I hate Darktide's servers with enough passion to fuel Chaos for a millenium

Tried to do an Auric Maelstrom, just barely started the mission - crossed the first bridge - before I started DCing; the kill feed was still going so I held out because that usually means it'll restabilize, but then enemies stop moving or taking damage and my screen turns green with my character permanently walking on at a downward trajectory

I quit the game, rebooted and reconnected; everything was back to normal for exactly two seconds before I suddenly zipped 50 feet back and to the left in an L shape before falling through the ground and dying

[pale pecan]

ok wish me luck

[queen fox]

i will destroy this heathen chaos worshipper

[tidal reef]

the lad on the right or the gal on the left

[queen fox]

both

damned by association

to the pyre with them

[tidal reef]

you gonna destroy the emperor?

sound like hershy

[fading yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/people-who-don't-know-vs-people-who-know-those-who-don't-know-vs-those-who-know-gif-18075947697117816471

[queen fox]

im gonna be real the emperor actually playing in any form at all ever is extremely out of character

even in his childhood memory snapshots

big e would smite the foul heretic immediately

[orchid hemlock]

the guy on the right is literally the emperor 💀

[hasty rain]

Is the vet shovel any good? I've tried several marks and they all seem to push enemies about but not really kill anything

[pale pecan]

I got lucky

[hollow ibex]

that about sums it up

the folding shovels can be aight against single targets, but they're not great either

[pale pecan]

What now

[tall torrent]

Unarmored + flak
Rising heat
Gets hot

[hollow ibex]

switch to using bolter

[hasty rain]

Carry bolter as primary and plasma as secondary. Just as the emperor intended.

[pale pecan]

When they add a talent node that lets us do that

I'm 100% having fun with a gunfu double pistol build

[hasty rain]

I do miss VT2 slayer and bringing a light enemy killer and a heavy armour can opener at once

Catachan class:
Carry 5 weapons at once.
Suffer random PTSD attacks

[slow spade]

coward, use a Combi-bolter like the Omnissiah would have wanted

[fading yarrow]

ATOMA'S ELITE GUARD, BABY

Magistrati Oubliette, waves of Specialists, mostly Scab melee enemies, no ammo pick-ups

Teammate with mic said we only took 75 damage across all four of us

[slow spade]

"too easy eh?" - Spawn Director

[serene bough]

I think i want to use shock maul

Which mark

[fading yarrow]

I prefer the Mk III

Feels good, looks better than the Mk Ia

[tame lodge]

Muni yeah

Ok just did a mission without collecting ammo tins on my Kant7

Yeah I'm loving it

[dawn walrus]

So would I.

[fading yarrow]

Teammate Director kicked in

Got to the second half of the same map and two people threw

[bitter vessel]

How do I do the dueling sword movement thing?

[tame lodge]

You sprint Light attack then slide

Or something like that

There's like a small lunge or something

Idk the heavy ones

[marble agate]

you just get attacked by enemies your team can't see

is the competitive urge perk worth using

[tame lodge]

Hard to say yes

Won't proc on your kills

Might proc when you need

Might not proc when you need

[hearty panther]

In its slight defence it does not care about Coherency

So it's any kill by any ally anywhere

[barren nimbus]

Whats the best rapier and powersword blessings and perks?

[iron elbow]

What are the odds the plasma gun explodes when it overheats?

[tame lodge]

None

It only explodes if you charge fire at 100 or so

And basically you don't have to charge it

Because FS balance

[iron elbow]

Ohh. I thought if it went over 100 it would have a chance to explode

Was curios if it was the same as the table top, makes sense why it doesn’t though

[pale pecan]

Wack I charged mine at 96 earlier and it killed blew up

Granted I was trying to blow up cuz I was gonna die but still

[fading yarrow]

Man she looks cute in this helmet

I'm a sneeze away from getting a 3 buck gift card from MS Rewards, gonna use that to nab a 2100 pack for the helmet and the Psyker robes

[pastel pumice]

Keep doing those quizzes and questionnaires

You'll get enough points soon enough

[sleek garden]

i want it but it costs dinero

[crude fiber]

is this mission currently not in rotation?

[sleek garden]

im using game pass right now and i slowly build up points for a 10 dollar gift card

[crude fiber]

havent seen it in the mission board since havoc came out

[sleek garden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/835418713896386593/1325287287935733760/dazed_and_confused.mp4?ex=677b3d78&is=6779ebf8&hm=7a82e644ffd04072d8a386a0ce67ea30da5834fedeccb409fcede1bb83e0158b&

[fading yarrow]

Pardon

[sleek garden]

shooters do this when you shoot them in the head

[sleek garden]

do the microsoft questionnaires to get microsoft points

when you get 10k you redeem it for a 10 dollar gift card

for example

[pastel pumice]

What he said

Microsoft Rewards

[fading yarrow]

I just didn't realize they did questionnaires and quizzes, I thought it was all earned through gameplay

[pastel pumice]

Then we're probably referring to different rewards providers

[serene bough]

Man

Maul feels good against trash but it doesn't kill elites fast enough

[sinful swallow]

What blessings do you take on maul

I think it's the only melee I haven't invested in yet

[tame lodge]

Skullcrusher + High Voltage or Hammerblow

Do the funny 25% against Elites

[sinful swallow]

How is it into monsters

[tame lodge]

Bad

So bring some monstrosity killer

Iirc the correct perks are Carapace Maniac

[barren nimbus]

Why would someone take unarmoured over maniac

[stoic thorn]

For me it's horde clear on my chainsword

Also I don't like the change for carapace on scab ragers

[barren nimbus]

Are hordes not maniacs

[stoic thorn]

Unarmoured/Infested

[craggy relic]

should I get rid of the perk for more stacks with the ping keystone?

[stoic thorn]

Maniacs are the specials + dreg rager

[craggy relic]

for focus target?

[barren nimbus]

Do hordes gain health? I thought they generally had 100 and die pretty easily, a chainsword heavy does like 180

[stoic thorn]

As difficulty goes up yea

but I use mk13 so it's lightspam

[sinful swallow]

Also, cleave damage distribution

[tall torrent]

Very not good

[sinful swallow]

Oh hey path

[tall torrent]

Shock maul relies on skullcrusher for most of its damage, and you can’t stagger bosses long enough for big value on your own

[sinful swallow]

It's moveset feels pretty good actually, I don't know what I expected

[serene bough]

Yeah monster dmg is trash with the maul

[tame lodge]

At damnation
Poxwalkers 375 health Infested type
Groaners 300 health Unarmored type

[barren nimbus]

Damn.

[tame lodge]

Yeah

[craggy relic]

so go back down to 5 stacks instead of 8?

[hollow ibex]

for FT never take 8 stakcs

[craggy relic]

oh