veteran-class

[bitter turtle]

Take lethal explosion puncture boltpistol

Lethal explosion increases your shredder aoe

The gun itself is passable in havoc

[gilded wraith]

I'm not good enough with ammo conservation for that yet.

[bitter turtle]

Fair enough

[gilded wraith]

More looking for something to pair with the laspistol that didn't need Trench fighter.

[bitter turtle]

Power sword is an idea since you're mobile with laspistol, maybe

[gilded wraith]

Not a bad idea.

[unreal nova]

Wait, are you saying even kraks get bigger with that Bpistol blessing? Heh.

[gilded wraith]

They do, but really shines with shredders.

Stacks with Tinkerer.

[unreal nova]

Still, time for some stupid builds ever since that was the first maxed gun I had on the Vet. Though I ran it more like a poor man Revolver.

[gilded wraith]

Out for blood procs off grenade kills as well.

[undone jungle]

I've been running rashad + laspis with no keystone lately on it. Good ammo eco because of Shock Trooper and Scavenger aura. Ghost is invaluable.

Mk6 psword is good but you often get overwhelmed in Havoc to the extent where you don't even have a window to activate it.

I tried making lasguns work but the dodge of laspis is too invaluable

Still tweaking it since I usually am forced to play Zealot because nobody wants to run the fucking corruption healing aura

I tried smokes for a while and they absolutely do work but shredders are also very invaluable vs elite spam

You can dump all right side talents to get enough points to spare to path for smokes if you want them, but with no melee talents you'll have to use mk6 psword which is fine, just use your laspis for dodging

[unreal nova]

If only there weren't just 2 medkits.

[undone jungle]

?

[unreal nova]

The improv crates thing.

[undone jungle]

You're joking right

[unreal nova]

No. just wishing there were more crates.

[undone jungle]

You can go several Havoc games without seeing a medicrate

Ah yeah then I agree

[unreal nova]

Since most Zealots go loner.

[tall torrent]

What I’ve been running

[undone jungle]

Atp I don't even accept Zealots anymore

[unreal nova]

Unless premade.

Since I know a friend runs Chorus and corruption removal.

[undone jungle]

I just play the token aura heal and whenever I don't have to I play Vet

[unreal nova]

I mean, even the toughness DR is better.

[undone jungle]

That's fair. I just value Charismatic highly because I want to maximise aura and VoC on my team in Havoc since I actually give a shit about them for once 💀

[unreal nova]

But I guess the mindset is just don't get hit ever.

[tall torrent]

Nah, it’s not worth 1 point

I also think O4B really shines more than CK in havoc

Getting toughness from every enemy is more useful when you could get ur toughness obliterated by a single stalker

[undone jungle]

That's true

[tall torrent]

And One Motion’s faster swap speed allows u to drop frags faster

Which is very useful

5% move speed is also better than 1 stamina

[undone jungle]

I'm probably gonna switch over to that but keep most of my bottom the same

Yeah 5% movement is huge

[tall torrent]

I don’t think BID is particularly strong for havoc

Breakpoints are all over the place

[unreal nova]

Especially on Psyker not taking Scryers. Being left behind constantly is a pain.

[undone jungle]

Suppression pathing is interesting I wonder if it's worth on laspis

[tall torrent]

I can test

[undone jungle]

This is true I was really tempted to drop it

[tall torrent]

this is what plasma with +suppression looks like

2 shots shut down entire wave of shooters

First shot lower accuracy
Second shot force cower

[bitter turtle]

I'm taking + suppression on my tree in 40 too

Idk if it really does much for recon but

[undone jungle]

That's pretty good. My teammates are usually very shooter blind so I've been using the laspis mostly

Ammo is such a pain in the ass in Havoc so it's hard for me to drop it

I'd happily use plasma over laspis if I had an EK psyker on my team that could shoot for shit

[tall torrent]

Actually it does like nothing for laspistol lol
Born leader it is then

[undone jungle]

Wonderful lool

[bitter turtle]

Try recon 6

I can hose hordes down and still give ammo to teammates

[tall torrent]

U can’t force cower with laspistol easily

[undone jungle]

Does recon even get ghost I don't remember

[bitter turtle]

No

[tall torrent]

No

[undone jungle]

I think I'll pass

[tall torrent]

Swap to born leader

It doesn’t do much

[bitter turtle]

Doesn't do anything for recon either?

[tall torrent]

Well

If it takes 45 shots to cower maybe 3 shooters

I say it’s not worth it

[unreal nova]

I just think Las weapons just have generally low suppression.

[bitter turtle]

The one time I actually care about suppression

[unreal nova]

Unless it's Scab gunners, but they cheating.

[bitter turtle]

And the node is still garbage

[undone jungle]

Tbh I usually get annoyed when shooters are suppressed while I'm using laspis

[bitter turtle]

Guess it's born leader yeah, fte is unusable with infil

[tall torrent]

If u hose them before they shoot it works

[undone jungle]

I just point and click all 40 of their heads and walk away with more ammo than I began the fight with

[bitter turtle]

My only problem with laspistol is it feels very very lopsided of a loadout if you take knife or ds4

[tawdry perch]

Need my fellow loser vets to tell me any use using anything but the duelist sword like what else is on its level

[bitter turtle]

On its level for what

[tall torrent]

Actually @bitter turtle keep KTHD

For recon

[bitter turtle]

O ok

[tall torrent]

Imma test laspistol again

See the video above

[undone jungle]

Knife/ds feels awful in Havoc especially when you roll Moebian horde

[tawdry perch]

Just like damage and how good it feels stuck

[undone jungle]

Also no need to run dodge melee on the best dodge gun

If you're good at it you can swap to dodge

[bitter turtle]

It's the most common melee in high havoc

[undone jungle]

I don't think it should be lol

[bitter turtle]

Bc you're relying on psyker purg staff anyway

For hordes

[undone jungle]

That's psyker

[bitter turtle]

Yes

And you have to fight as a team on 40

Wandering off even a little is throwing

[undone jungle]

I wish my teammates got that memo

[bitter turtle]

You want your melee to kill armor so most people just ds4 for that + mobility

When horde comes it's purg staff or throw in flamer on zealot too if purg isn't enough

[undone jungle]

Yeah for a premade that makes sense sadly I only have 1 friend good enough for high Havoc so I am Forced To Endure

[bitter turtle]

I don't pre-made

Pugged 40 since week 1

Ppl should know what they're doing at that rank is all

[undone jungle]

Maybe the pubs in EU are just mentally deficient

[tawdry perch]

Me

[bitter turtle]

Also

[tawdry perch]

Get more luck out of american matches but the ping is insane

[bitter turtle]

Recon is nice to help hose down the hordes a little if it's necessary

It doesn't need very much ammo

[tawdry perch]

Hate when fellow british people talk to me on comms

Isn't the slower firing recon the best

[bitter turtle]

#veteran-class message

[tawdry perch]

We're in the vet class

[bitter turtle]

#veteran-class message

You can see it's pretty ammo efficient

I can give ammo to team pretty easily

[tawdry perch]

Damn that's quite good

[bitter turtle]

Slowest is my favorite in auric

But rhe middle one is my favorite

In havoc

Ammo efficiency is best on 6

[low shale]

How should my talent tree build?

[tall torrent]

What level are u

[low shale]

13

[tall torrent]

Don’t worry about that yet

Get used to melee mechanics

[low shale]

Just don't use points?

[tall torrent]

That’s not what I said

[low shale]

I had already went to the shredder frag cuase that seems interesting
And I wanted the increased damage below

[low shale]

Ik I was asking

[tall torrent]

Run this for now

Don’t worry about deep build crafting yet

[pastel yew]

yeah especially when you're loads of points down compared to the rest

also pretty much everything you pick at the level you're playing at will be fine

[pastel yew]

I'm gonna say dont run this

because it'll not let you learn the game properly

if at any point you have a get out of jail free card to unpunish yourself

you never really have to consider what went wrong or how to get out

especially early on learning game mechanics is so much more important

[undone jungle]

At your level I'd just slowly path towards this talent in any way you see fit since it's very handy to have. Don't worry about finalising your build until you're 30 just experiment with whatever looks cool and you find enjoyable.

[pastel yew]

kraks are a good shout so low level though

low level chaos spawn is gonna fuck people up because you dont really have tools to deal with him especially when new

I think thats been the worst part of levelling new classes, watching people insta die to chaos spawn then having to 1v1 it with 0 damage

[unreal nova]

Also much harder to tag with kraks. And people not going into melee if someone gets grabbed.

[pastel yew]

you 100% should have 10% xp on all your curios though

the faster you can level to 30 the better

low level skill tree is shit

and not being able to grind gear properly till 30 (unless they changed how the stat gen works) is also giga lame

[unreal nova]

Well, if you like to gamble to 500, you technically still can.

The cost though.

[tall torrent]

U can 100% get gear before lv30

All weapons have max potential so u can craft a gold 500 godroll pretty early on as long as u have mastery for that weapon

[unreal nova]

Is more, the RNG from 180-500... Any level cann ruin the god roll.

[pastel yew]

wont it start with gimped starting stats though?

[unreal nova]

I have had guns go from 80 ammo to 75 ammo and 65 mobility.

[pastel yew]

so higher cost to actually get it up

[tall torrent]

Everything does

And it doesn’t cost that much more

[pastel yew]

in auric sure you get resources super fast

but in regular mode low diff

you get very little

[tall torrent]

Compared to before the U&L update where u physically cannot craft anything before lv30

[pastel yew]

yeah I mean this is an improvement

[tall torrent]

~1400 diamantine and ~3k plasteel per weapon

It’s not hard

[unreal nova]

They just need to fix the bug.

[pastel yew]

even if it is more time consuming for me to craft weapons now which is kinda annoying

[tall torrent]

That’s maybe 14 malice runs lol

Or 5 damnation runs

[pastel yew]

14 runs is a fair few

I have no idea on the numbers but I dont think you get that much plasteel in regular no?

for damnation that is

[tall torrent]

U also don’t need gold 500 weapons for malice

[pastel yew]

mmh

true

[unreal nova]

But that's 14 malice run that can be ruined cos the RNG dictates you get a max stat switch on your item.

[pastel yew]

not building for malice though :kwke

[tall torrent]

Plasteel is worthless, it’s diamantine that matters

[pastel yew]

tbf you'll get bad perceptions of good and bad here

[tall torrent]

U can get like 400 plasteel easily in malice

[pastel yew]

as typically people here are giga active players that want the perfect roll

[tall torrent]

Heresy goes up to 600 ish

[pastel yew]

but really having slightly scuffed stats will be functionally identical on most weapons

[tall torrent]

But ~1400 diamantine is a hard ask for most new players

[unreal nova]

It's Diamantine actually.

[tall torrent]

3k plasteel is 3 damnation games

1.4k diamantine is like 5 damnation games

It’s not equal ratio

[stable shoal]

Is chainaxe Bistol a good loadout for auric ? I’m having a really easy time in damnation with it. I just don’t know the build for it ngl

[unreal nova]

Thing is, not everyone can really do Damnation stable.

[pastel yew]

yeah I'd say so

[tall torrent]

That’s why they gotta learn

[pastel yew]

I was running that had a lot of fun

[unreal nova]

Especially not newer players.

[stable shoal]

It’s quite good, I love the charge special then heavy overhead on crushers. Melts them so fast in 1 hit

[unreal nova]

And then you get into a loop of, it'll feel bad if I try harder diffs without a maxed weapon, but it's tiring to get a maxed weapon combo.

[pastel yew]

yeah the chainaxe 1 hit on crushers feels so goooood

until you play with a dueling sword player

who kills a crusher and then the crusher you're chain attacking...

in the time the animation takes

[tall torrent]

Playing heresy with suboptimal gear is totally fine

[unreal nova]

And yes, i know a top 1% can basically do Auric Damnation with the starter grey.

[tall torrent]

Heresy is ~200 diamantine ish?

[stable shoal]

I started using dueling before chainaxe its defo better but omfg I LOVE THE CHAINAXE

[tall torrent]

So that’s 8 heresy runs per weapon

[pastel yew]

yeah I think the chainaxe is super satisfying

you need to run ws

for the attack speed

or it physically cannot keep up at higher level play

[stable shoal]

Ofc I got that

I ain’t that dumb lol

[pastel yew]

but once you've got that it's pretty good

[unreal nova]

It doesn't feel right because you barely meet breakpoints.

[pastel yew]

it's just in that camp of weapons where when times are easy, its amazing... and when its just you and times are hard... it's not as hot anymore

[unreal nova]

Depends on the roll.

[tall torrent]

No? Heresy has a lot less health than damnation

[unreal nova]

Like an example, a crit shot can 1 tap a reaper on malice, but takes 2 shots, 1 crit for Heresy.

[tall torrent]

What

[unreal nova]

You can build it for 1 shot if you have a maxed gun.

[stable shoal]

I had a game lastnight I clutched up with a mastery 4 chainaxe and my Bistol lol. It’s definitely hard to use when against a horde solo but all you need is the legendary, the mythical Doorway lol

[tall torrent]

What weapon

[unreal nova]

Revolver.

[pastel yew]

lmao

but yeah the build feels super thematic

I just wish the chain axe got some love

some better move speed or dodge better

[stable shoal]

I wish chainsword had armor pen like the axe ngl

[pastel yew]

and better attack speed so it doesnt feel limp against poxwalkers

[unreal nova]

And no, I know there's no point in revolver on Damnation.

Too many bullets to kill to be worth.

[pastel yew]

yeah regular combat axe is probably always gonna be better than the chainaxe unfortunately but

[tall torrent]

Malice reaper is 2500 health
Heresy reaper is 3k health

Really not a big difference, especially when u have agile engagement up

[pastel yew]

the one shot rev attack is fun?

[tall torrent]

This is completely wrong

Revolver is only not good in havoc lol

[pastel yew]

revolver is giga in damnation

[stable shoal]

One shot rev will always live in my heart as the goat

[unreal nova]

Thing is, my unoptimised gun hits for 2.7k.

[pastel yew]

just run exec stance

[unreal nova]

Crit headshot, reaper.

[pastel yew]

worry about breakpoints never again

[tall torrent]

Have agile engagement up and you get that breakpoint anyway

[stable shoal]

Dumpstat for chainaxe is mobility right ?

[tall torrent]

It’s not specifically tied to “I gotta have a max power weapon”

[pastel yew]

uhh defences

[stable shoal]

Really ?

[tall torrent]

“Damage stat” doesn’t impact damage as much as u think

[pastel yew]

you dont wanna dump its already stinky mobility ye

defence just makes your push attacks cheaper

[tough tiger]

Chainaxes on vet is kinda oof, better used on a zealot

[pastel yew]

and something else equally forgettable

even though the push attack on the mk12 is really really good

the stats worthless

[stable shoal]

I have a chainaxe with everything 80 besides mobility

[pastel yew]

they only feel oof without attack speed

[stable shoal]

It feels really good tho

[unreal nova]

But VoC.

[pastel yew]

same on zealot

[pastel yew]

you can play without voc

[stable shoal]

But shouty

[unreal nova]

Mini shouty. Zealots louder.

[tall torrent]

Agile engagement

[stable shoal]

Everyone loves shouty

[stable shoal]

Minor shouty vs major shouty

[unreal nova]

Is that the on dodge one?

[tall torrent]

No

[tough tiger]

Ni

[stable shoal]

Ce

[tough tiger]

25% dmg with other weapon after getting a kill

[unreal nova]

Because I basically know nothing of the right side tree other than Onslaught, lul.

[stable shoal]

What should I be running on chainaxe ?

[tall torrent]

Why do u have onslaught for revolver

[stable shoal]

Headtaker and the other one right ?

[unreal nova]

Naw, that's for Recon memes.

[pastel yew]

which version?

[tough tiger]

Bro never experienced melee vet

[pastel yew]

onslaught is also bait

I stand by this

doo doo talent

[stable shoal]

I have the poopy one rn not the better one

[pastel yew]

sadge then I have no idea check the guide

[stable shoal]

Not the one with better heavy’s

[unreal nova]

Playing malice with torrent and it and just shoot everything durp.

[pastel yew]

swap to the mk12 as soon as you can

[stable shoal]

I’m trying 😭

[pastel yew]

with the mk12 I run headtaker + thrust since it lets you one shot crushers with the special

[stable shoal]

I fell asleep before I could max it

[low shale]

Which combat knife is good

[pastel yew]

lmao

[low shale]

Mk3 or Mk 6

[pastel yew]

both of em

though I think its the mk 6 people prefer

since it has better horde clear

personally I dont like it though, mk3 the goat

stabby stabby

I might have the mks reversed

[low shale]

I'll try stabby

[unreal nova]

Personally. 3 is better if you can headtap consistently on everything. 6 is better horde clears.

[pastel yew]

you can headtap with the 6 it just is way more push attack heavy

where on the mk3 you can save your stamina for push attacks in other situations and be less reliant

iirc

at least

I havent really dont much testing with the mk6 so just what I've heard from others mainly

[serene bough]

note to self: queue havoc 7pm for people running 40s

[unreal nova]

Well, 3 is like DS for horde clear.

[tough tiger]

Mk6 u punch and stab spam for single target dps

[low shale]

So is the Vraks MK 5 good?

[unreal nova]

Your finger will hate you for it.

[tall torrent]

Very strong

[pseudo fiber]

Havoc 40 done again Psword plasma goated

[pastel yew]

vraks mk 5 the old columnus autogun?

infantry

[unreal nova]

Do note that any opinions I have for those two is purely from Zealot stuff. But honestly, don't think it changes much.

[serene bough]

nice

[pseudo fiber]

free 35k plasteel next week

[serene bough]

just finished my 40 too

[pseudo fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-handshake-muscle-strong-man-gif-5783927

My favourite part was when I got knocked off the map by a flamer at the start and I was so mad

but then we beat it pretty easily after that so who cares

[stable shoal]

Can I check my stats after a mission on console ?

Is that possible

[pseudo fiber]

No sdaly

[proper jasper]

whats blessing good on mark 4 devil sowrd?

[narrow frost]

Check the pins

[proper jasper]

ty

[manic echo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1317579222587408547/1318031267375349871/image.png?ex=6760d7c5&is=675f8645&hm=d27ad02d289f0e7181eb01cbdd6594798aa46a1932dad307bad54f72994620d4&

what should I get for last point

I'm using infantry autogun

and power sword

[serene bough]

Marksman isn't a bad idea

Id give up some points to get desperado on the right personally

[pseudo fiber]

Or stam regen

[serene bough]

Idk if psword needs

[pseudo fiber]

Powersword exists seperate from the skilltree

However I like trench fighter drill on ot

[serene bough]

Well w/o changing the build either marksman or Stam regen

[terse idol]

field improv is also just a good node if you've already met most of your minimum reqs for the ilas

[green willow]

i still dont know what this means on the shock maul's falter blessing

passively buffs your ranged?

[jaunty sphinx]

man party finder is depressing

[vital wren]

Regular play is bad right now too, it's a rough time for randoming.

[tall torrent]

this is an incorrect tooltip

it only reduces enemies`stagger reduction by x10%

[paper trellis]

got the other trouble child. If anyone else is going for this one, don't use the double barrel or combat shotgun, they are bugged for it. Got it with revolver

[pastel yew]

I got it with double barrel first try iirc, what's bugged about it? or did I just get mega lucky

[austere mica]

No idea what you mean by bugged considering I got it the first time I tried using that

[paper trellis]

only missed a single shot with double barrel and it didn't pop, looked online and apparently there were a bunch of issues if you were getting multiple targets per shot

also apparently the vet smokes after that achievement, because the award chestpiece has a pack of smokes strapped to the shoulder

[pastel yew]

hmm

I made sure to be point blank when I fired

so maybe sometimes the pellets fuck up accuracy if they all miss

[orchid hemlock]

determined

[pastel yew]

wildest game of auric I've played

start of chasm station I 10000iq play by diving off of the upstairs right at the start but the knife lunge sent me flying missed the ledge 100 to 0 hp

proceeded to watch two full teams of players die and rotate out

then mission fail

[unreal nova]

Malice, with a psyker that somehow managed to go boom picking up another person.

Just how? I thought you can't go boom from the talent?

[vital wren]

Blocking with perils? 😄

Maybe he was already too high?

[unreal nova]

No clue, turned away to shoot specials, heard the Psyker go down with nothing next to them.

[hollow ibex]

shouldn't be possible...

[austere mica]

KD turns off at 97%

[vital wren]

Strange!

[unreal nova]

Just shouted both up confused.

[manic echo]

I remember there used to be exploit that all you have to do is shoot all the ammo you have and then force close the game and then rejoin the game then you the last remaining bullet to shoot something and play entire game with just melee

idk if that already fix

[paper trellis]

would have certainly been less effort

almost done with killshot ready. 250 more kills

[manic echo]

apparently rejoining game reset all your stats

but idk if it actually fix or not

would love to get that armor tho

[paper trellis]

it's not too hard with a revolver, run a melee build and pop it point blank

[manic echo]

imagine the enemy die right as you about to shoot your gun

[thick needle]

I just point blanked a bunch of trash with the revolver early on and stuck to the power sword for the rest of the match

[paper trellis]

and the third and final problem child is put to rest

[paper trellis]

yeah that's where my 3 missed shots went. but do have a buffer of 5 to work with

[wicked epoch]

Is the shout that can res any useful

Are there any builds that can utilize it

just for a fun build

Not anything competitive

[tall torrent]

Not worth usually, can be fun if you’re into role play

[wicked epoch]

bet

[elder fiber]

It's really cool to use rez shout if somebody is downed under fire to instantly kill them

[hollow ibex]

finally, a valid use of rez shout

[iron marten]

Call it the commissar's execution for not doing well

[unreal nova]

You play with randos, you get newbies doing dumb things while learning. You shout to pick them up so you can keep shooting specials. Basically. Also, the whole, you can't die till i say so lul.

[austere mica]

I mean

They can just go down a second time

And actually die to corruption

[unreal nova]

You mean third time.

If you get actual newbies, it's usually on uprising while half asleep or malice.

Cos you can now find lvl 6 ppl in malice doing newbie things.

[austere mica]

I would actually fall asleep in anything below damnation

And I get close in damnation as well

Havoc has done horrible things to my ability to enjoy this game

[rigid pilot]

Auric HiSTG is Soo easy compared to havoc nonsense

[unreal nova]

To be fair, I'm already half asleep when starting. Just don't want people to suffer a half nodding off person trying to get sleepier.

[unreal nova]

Well, my mind just treats it as a super power fantasy. Turn off brain and boom. Sometimes, you don't want to just stress. And to be fair, I did mention I'm generally mechanically bad at games. It's just how brain is wired at times.

And it only gets worse when under stress.

[austere mica]

There isn’t enough stuff below damnation for me to power trip on

Havoc has ruined me

[unreal nova]

Bonus, my reflexes got shot so hard, it feels so different when it was 15 years ago.

Where I can dodge instagibs on the most paper things with blinks and such.

[austere mica]

Anything less than half the specials and elites on my screen doesn’t really elicit a response anymore and it’s fucking strange

[unreal nova]

With lag.

With 350 ping lag.

I don't even know how my teen self does it.

[tiny junco]

VoC lvl 30 Recon Lasgun lvl 28 havoc, why is no one accepting me to level 30 havocs?

[austere mica]

That depends on many variables

[unreal nova]

Recon Lasgun maybe? Everyone expects a plasma.

[austere mica]

Whats the actual full build

And what’s your actual level (if you know)

[tiny junco]

Don't know actual level, but, Im fully built to run a recon lasgun.

[austere mica]

That doesn’t really mean anything

[unreal nova]

For me it's one shotting big things. BOOM.

[austere mica]

Send a picture of your talent tree

[tiny junco]

Imme a sec.

[unreal nova]

Even in D&D I always ended up making stupid OP boss solo chars, that could be explained away lorewise.

I mean, how do you get a 147 damage a turn cantrip spammer.

[tiny junco]

EXACT build sheet. @austere mica https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9db42667-952e-4375-9a2a-e5bca6f70811/all-rounder-recon-lasgun-vet

[dry cloak]

On what lvl

[austere mica]

Ok

So

I understand now

[dry cloak]

Aye

[austere mica]

That build

Kinda sucks

[unreal nova]

It's third party btw.

[tiny junco]

okay, got a better build for me to run?

[austere mica]

Not atm, was about to take a shower

I also don’t know how to build vet for havoc

[unreal nova]

Just so minmaxed, the GM basically is like, I'm just banning you from saving up for certain items lul.

[tiny junco]

...anything you advise?

[austere mica]

Whole different ballpark than standard play

[unreal nova]

And all that item is is add +7 to 8 hits a turn.

[tiny junco]

Right.. which is why I went with a VoC build, it restores toughness and grants temp invinc

[austere mica]

Yeah but the specifics are highly questionable for normal auric stuff

Let alone havoc

[unreal nova]

All i know is, plasma is core and that's about it. People will drop you if you roll up with anything else unless it's 1-10 havoc.

At least when a friend told me since he plays higher havoc with vet.

[austere mica]

I hate plasma too

[tiny junco]

I mean, I actually DONT mind playing plasma.

I just like the ability to handle large crowds with ease.

[unreal nova]

I just physically know i can't without being carried.

[tiny junco]

Fuck it, i'll try a plasma voc build.

[austere mica]

That’s the thing though

In havoc

Recon can’t do that

Enemy hitmass has outscaled its cleave

[unreal nova]

Not even revolver can pierce that much.

[tiny junco]

I mean, actually it's not too bad, I can down like 6 ragers before I start having to run away.

[austere mica]

Revolver just sucks in havoc anyway

It misses all its breakpoints

[unreal nova]

Figured.

[tiny junco]

What do YOU recommend for vet in Havoc?

[unreal nova]

It already misses damnation breakpoints without going specific stuff.

[tiny junco]

God forbid i'm showing up with a Lucius. I'll straightup just not do it.

[austere mica]

I said earlier I have no idea

[tiny junco]

Shit.

Guess it's plasma build time!

[austere mica]

I’ve only played zealot and psyker in havoc

Ask path when they are around

[unreal nova]

I have no clue either, as said, only technically did 17 on Psyker and got dooked on by the game to 14. And I can honestly say I was struggling already.

[austere mica]

Havoc is definitely not accessible to people who cannot do auric maelstorms regularly

Or at least anything past 20

[unreal nova]

I figured.

[dry cloak]

I mean thats the whole point of havoc

[austere mica]

I still find it hilarious the amount of people who are mad that havoc is hard

[dry cloak]

A content for people for whom auric mael is easy

For me aurics become hard sometimes

[unreal nova]

Is just, stagging hordes is helpful, dome is always nice. I'll be underperforming but it's not full deadweight at least. But anything higher, don't think I'll be able to do much.

[dry cloak]

I know my skill and it isnt sufficient for 20+

[austere mica]

I do think havoc is really cool for actually forcing you to build around it and play as a team

[unreal nova]

And then you still get loner stealth zealots leeroying.

Because they aren't the host.

[austere mica]

They don’t make it anywhere

[unreal nova]

Some even bait and switch.

[dry cloak]

But stealth zealots dont learn

[austere mica]

Because stealth is already shafted by its pathing in normal play

[unreal nova]

They use a decent chorus/corruption removal build and last sec switch.

I mean, it's still 'fine' in sub 10s, i guess. Makes everyone else suffer unless they are also solo types.

[wicked epoch]

whats a fun auto gun

i just wanna have fun with this build

max roleplay

[unreal nova]

Infantry.

[wicked epoch]

already have an infantry exe stance build

[radiant chasm]

Vraks infantry autogun

Agri braced autogun for more of a counterstrike/class fps kind of weapon

[unreal nova]

Braced is fun for some.

[wicked epoch]

oh infantry autp gu

auto gun

my assis dumb

i instantly thought infantry las

mb bro

[unreal nova]

Headhunters/Vigilant is pointless imo.

[wicked epoch]

whats one that makes me feel like rambo

[radiant chasm]

And uh single shot vigilant for DMR

[wicked epoch]

that can actually hit stuff

[radiant chasm]

They all can if you stand still and tapfire (braced autos) also don’t brace with them

I think 2/3 of them have no reason to brace, and then the 3rd gets a big RPM boost from it

[wicked epoch]

lmaoo

whats the diff with an autogun and a las anyway

[unreal nova]

But, but, but, fun. Or ehm, I can't get it to pop heads even in malice.

[wicked epoch]

all my life i never touched an autogun

at all

[tiny junco]

Just changed to a plasma build, here's hoping I get accepted into some havocs.

[radiant chasm]

3shot vigilant is also good if you can stand burst fire

[radiant chasm]

Sounds like you need to build it properly

Cause it’s an extremely consistent dmr in damnation

[wicked epoch]

Sometimes it aint about the gun, its the dude shootin it

[radiant chasm]

Even more so than the inflas series but that’s imo

[unreal nova]

You still don't use that brace to brrr one I think. Just eh. Some joke about unbinding the ads/brace button for the BAG.

[wicked epoch]

that doesnt apply to the shredder auto pistol tho

[radiant chasm]

Well autoguns shoot bullets

Shredder is just bad

Infantry autoguns are automatics and behave like a normal ads shooter gun

Brautos are also fully auto and do more base damage but have worse aim and finesse ratio (crit/weakspots) iirc

[unreal nova]

Probs build related since my actual talents are the lazy no situational stuff. Most is +25% crits at cost of stamina.

[radiant chasm]

Vigilants is separated between two burst fires (3round, 2 rounds) and a single shot DMR

[forest breach]

How do you make marksmans focus fun to use?

[radiant chasm]

Shotgun, or Viag

[dry cloak]

Helbore,bolter

[radiant chasm]

Bolter loves focus target too much

[unreal nova]

Inf las just sucks. Everyone I know says it's crap. Just use IAG. Or heavy laspistol.

[radiant chasm]

Imo

[radiant chasm]

Inflas doesn’t suck

Anyone who says that is just being irrational

It’s mid and powercrept

But it’s not shredder, it’s completely auric viable

[unreal nova]

You need the hold and shoot mod for it.

[radiant chasm]

Nah, i like that more for the mk3 vigilant

[unreal nova]

Cos it feels bad without a turbo controller or that mod tbh.

[pastel yew]

same for the laspistol n such though

[unreal nova]

True.

[pastel yew]

without full auto a fair few weapons in this game are just rsi sim

[tall torrent]

Only a “maybe” for Mk IIb
Other 2 variants don’t need it

[unreal nova]

Which I feel like I'm getting from knife/dueling on zealot already lul.

[pastel yew]

yeah its a shame the melee version of full auto (keep swinging) isnt very good

better than nothing though

[unreal nova]

Charge with fury and poke things funni.

But yeah, finger killer and bad since you do want heavies on melee.

[wicked epoch]

Aw mann

[unreal nova]

I wonder how ppl on actual consoles use them.

[wicked epoch]

Its sad that its true

[pastel yew]

uncomfortably I imagine

I will add though

[unreal nova]

Turbo controllers aren't allowed on Xbox.

[pastel yew]

"just use X"

isnt really a good argument

you should primarily compare the strength of weapons to the challenge set by the game

or the number of good, viable weapons becomes a tiny fraction of what it is

[wicked epoch]

It can work, but it needs to have a reason to be chosen

[pastel yew]

fun? aesthetic?

something different?

idk I think a lot of the strongest weapons tend to be the least interest

ing

[unreal nova]

Why most go plasma late, only thing that really does anything in late havoc. Cleave, damage.

[austere mica]

Relic blade and force greatsword seek to defy this

[tall torrent]

Click trigger (it’s not as fast as u think)

[pastel yew]

arent all the las weapons and the bolt pistol also p good in havoc?

[unreal nova]

Most things you find fun are stripped away there.

[pastel yew]

a console trigger is a lot less fucky on the joints than a keyboard

but I dont think a laspistol is gonna be super comfy to use there either

[tall torrent]

Laspistol is only 266rpm

It’s really not fast firing

[pastel yew]

if you have normal non fucked up hands

for sure

I cant exactly say the same

[austere mica]

4.43 clicks per second

[unreal nova]

I have a controller with such triggers, even rocking finger still hurts after a clip.

[forest breach]

I can see all these work, still doesnt fix the stagnant playstyle

[austere mica]

I can barely hit that

[pastel yew]

it's not that its too fast to hit

its more that you're going to be doing it

for like 25 minutes straight

with not a lot of down time

[unreal nova]

The thing is so sensitive with it on, a mild brush on the trigger fires.

[pastel yew]

its the same reason I sorta struggle with the heavy sword with its really long held heavies

fatshark dont really give a shit about accessability but at least pc players have mods

[unreal nova]

Will still kill your finger. I know.

[wicked epoch]

i got gloryhunter and bleed on the bolt pistol

shits kinda fun

[pastel yew]

glory hunter bp is good yeah just competes for a lot of other stuff

does it proc on the bleed kill though/

[wicked epoch]

my build focuses on toughness and kills

[austere mica]

I’m still sad DA loses to lethal prox puncture

[wicked epoch]

so i think it justifies

my build regens toughness on either melee, shout or kill

so any sort of toughness regen

goated

[pastel yew]

I think its still fine if you're going to be using your ranged weapon primarily, and you dont wanna rely on dots to get breakpoints because thats gross as hell

you dont need da for dog breakpoints anymore

[unreal nova]

I mean, I still need a, no b/w effect on last wound since the effect basically blinds me.

[pastel yew]

but without focus target or maybe? marksmans focus you need it for ragers and... something else

I forgor

[wicked epoch]

hows this idea for a commissar build

pure RP tho

shout with res

bolt pistol and power sword

[pastel yew]

dude its so bad

[wicked epoch]

mostly support and horde clearing

[unreal nova]

I know I can mod, but if mod breaks....

[pastel yew]

I hate it so much

[wicked epoch]

so frags instead of kraks

[tiny junco]

WHY THE FUCK DOES NO ONE ACCEPT ANYONE FOR HAVOCS?

[wicked epoch]

just join vcs and ask if they do havocs

90% success rate for me

[pastel yew]

host your own

[wicked epoch]

if they arent, they still playin damns or aurics

[pastel yew]

people will join p fast

[unreal nova]

Did it with chainsword. Is okay.

[wicked epoch]

shout with res?

[unreal nova]

Yes.

[wicked epoch]

id wanna use chainsword, ill be real

but like

it feels like its outshone so bad

[pastel yew]

man the rez shout is like

[wicked epoch]

so what if i can do the rev attack

its so

[pastel yew]

everything I actually want from voc

[wicked epoch]

underpowered

[unreal nova]

I mostly derp in malice and sometimes you just don't wanna deal with manually picking ppl up.

[pastel yew]

impactful effects rather than constant spam

[wicked epoch]

what chainsword do i even use

[pastel yew]

I wonder how fast you can get revive speed

[unreal nova]

Cos that lvl 6 psyker went boom for the fourth time.

[wicked epoch]

because im so used to abusing the MkVI power sword

that spams lights

the cadia 13 isnt for me

grr

[pastel yew]

idk I'll be honest I've barely used the chain swords since they got nerfed

the 1h ones at least

[tall torrent]

No

[pastel yew]

they used to be a little goofy silly on their m1 spam

[unreal nova]

Is malice. Anything works but the shredders.

[pastel yew]

thats what I had thought

anti synergy

[tall torrent]

If it did plasma gun + frag would be insanely busted

[pastel yew]

chainswords still good for... like.. only clearing horde...

[unreal nova]

Those eat so much ammo for nothing.

Just use a recon and is better.

[tall torrent]

Anything works in malice period lol

[wicked epoch]

the moment i see literally anything

[pastel yew]

plasma uses too much ammo?

[wicked epoch]

rager and above

im cooked

[radiant chasm]

Malice is the only place shredder works lmao

[wicked epoch]

when theres 500 ragers

chainsword wont do none

[pastel yew]

yeah the chainsword elite clear feels not good

and its shredder feels p useless

[wicked epoch]

atleast powersword i can fighting retreat

[broken parcel]

Wallahi. He's finished.

[wicked epoch]

the power sword is just so much better

[tall torrent]

That doesn’t even happen in game
Havoc throws like maybe 20 ragers in 1 wave

[wicked epoch]

i hate that fact

[wicked epoch]

was exaggerating

[pastel yew]

sometimes the director cooks

[unreal nova]

Maybe it feels so bad, I think is only for sedition.

[pastel yew]

oops all X

[wicked epoch]

the point comes accross tho

[pastel yew]

this has got to be bait

[radiant chasm]

Just go blazing pinning and ads constantly

[pastel yew]

I completely missed this message but

god damn

[radiant chasm]

Okay whats your angle

[narrow frost]

I use shredder auto on 90% of my builds

[radiant chasm]

Shredder pistol?

[narrow frost]

its amazing

[pastel yew]

my angle is I got confused

I thought you meant the frags

[unreal nova]

But it burns so much ammo. I don't wanna ammo gremlin to kill things.

[pastel yew]

not the autopistol or whatever

isnt the autopistol giga suppression

dont you enjoy suppressing things?

[radiant chasm]

Giga stagger

[radiant chasm]

You are in malice

[unreal nova]

I use boltpistol at that point.

[radiant chasm]

You can ammo gremlin all you want

[pastel yew]

they should buff the shredder autopistol

by

giving you a second one

you hold in the other hand

[radiant chasm]

There is like 1200% ammo per map period from crates and pickups

[unreal nova]

But, but the gunlugger wants to shoot everything as well.

[radiant chasm]

And you have survivalist

[tall torrent]

His problem of not being able to find ammo

[radiant chasm]

You have the autopistol just run ahead

[unreal nova]

Double everything but firerate technically?

[tall torrent]

Looting is a skill some people just don’t have it

[pastel yew]

p much

[broken parcel]

Lads. I needs yalls opinion.

I know Plasma Gun is rhe meta. But how does a Shotgun build in Veteren sound? Ass or nah?

[pastel yew]

they'd likely be giga with doubled but

[radiant chasm]

They should buff shredder by reworking finesse

[pastel yew]

I just want some dual wielding

[tall torrent]

DB shotgun is niche but fun
Combat shotguns are rather disappointing atm

[radiant chasm]

Dbarrel weapon spec is a consistent great offmeta pick

[pastel yew]

I probably wouldnt run shotgun without exec stance

[tall torrent]

Nah

[radiant chasm]

Combat shotguns are mid but they use the same blessing that makes dbarrel good, manstopper

[radiant chasm]

But why

[tall torrent]

Finesse is the last thing a braced gun needs

[broken parcel]

Just curious cuz once I start my Vet grind.

[pastel yew]

because their breakpoints are shitty without it

[unreal nova]

If you want Agripinna... Boltpistol/revolver kinda covers the role.

[radiant chasm]

No

Listen

[pastel yew]

double barrel is fine

but the regular shotguns just feel bad

[broken parcel]

I wanna have a shotgun build.

[radiant chasm]

They should separate crit and weakspot ratios

[pastel yew]

with exec stance they feel good

[dry cloak]

Infiltrate with weapon spec

[broken parcel]

Interesting.

[unreal nova]

And can actually one shot.

[tall torrent]

It’s already separate in terms of code
Some weapons just have the same values between weakspot & crit

[unreal nova]

At least malice/heresy lazy build.

[broken parcel]

I'll have to find a good shotgun build somewhere then.

[pastel yew]

this makes me so sad

theres like

[dry cloak]

Make your own

[broken parcel]

Cuz I really don't wanna play Shout/Plasma build.

[radiant chasm]

So weapons aren’t divided between “high finesse and therefore good if they can abuse crit and weakspots” or “low finesse and needing base stats to compensate or be trash like shredder”

[pastel yew]

the shotguns should feel wayy meatier up close

[broken parcel]

That shit looks boring.

[pastel yew]

they basically just get some funny boss damage

[unreal nova]

They feel limp.

[pastel yew]

plasma gun is real fun, for like... a set number of games then its not

[tall torrent]

I think bodyshot focused weapons need to be better in general, it’s not related to finesse

[pastel yew]

its just playing osu

click the circles

[unreal nova]

Why is the revolver just doing more?

I know is handcannon.

[pastel yew]

revolver is fine imo, just ws giving it free reload is dumb

[broken parcel]

I was not expecting a Osu reference in a Darktide server.

[radiant chasm]

separating crit and weakspot down the line, means you can have 4 classes instead of 2. “Base stats” “crit weapon” “weakspot weapon” “true finesse weapon”

[unreal nova]

But slug shot point blank reeeeeeeeeeee.

[pastel yew]

https://tenor.com/view/osu-osugame-osutiktok-tiktok-osu-player-gif-24546393

I used to be

an addict

I've recovered now

[tall torrent]

All too complicated

[radiant chasm]

No i think the best identity for shredder that is already setup

Is crit

[pastel yew]

but I still hear the big black when I drift off to sleep

[broken parcel]

Good man.

[unreal nova]

Boltpistol technically hits for less, but you don't need to reload every shot for the effect.

And your frags get boosted.

[radiant chasm]

But buffing weakspot doesn’t make sense for shredder

But crit does

[pastel yew]

the combat shotguns should have just been their special ammo types as a toggle

then balance them around that

[wicked epoch]

if i have res shout and this

hows that

[pastel yew]

rather than what we go

got

[radiant chasm]

It has crit blessings, it has a “good” crit chain

[pastel yew]

mega support

[dry cloak]

Sgotguns should have like ramp up within 6m of the target up to like 1.5x

[dry cloak]

Yes

[wicked epoch]

yurrr

[pastel yew]

fury of the faithful used to be so fun with the shotguns on zealot

because you could dash and explode ogryns

[unreal nova]

I did say that. Just give us a toggle to load all slugs. It would be more viable.

[pastel yew]

then they nerfed it ;-;

[broken spade]

sounds terrible tbh

[radiant chasm]

If it crit for say, an extra 1.0 ratio, i think that would be a good start for making it a unique weapon

[broken spade]

res shout with the revive speed node

[dry cloak]

Like 25% of ammo pool is your special ammo reserve(separate)

[unreal nova]

At least you now have a mid range super stagger shot.

[pastel yew]

this could be cool yeah

also they need some

[dry cloak]

And you just load it up to full

[broken parcel]

I should ask that too.

Is a shotgun build better on Vet or Zealot?

[pastel yew]

extra base ammo

god damn

[pastel yew]

zealot probably

[dry cloak]

Cet imo

[unreal nova]

Zealot.

[pastel yew]

just because vet has access to other better options

[wicked epoch]

would this be useful for a chainsword

[radiant chasm]

It’s vet for dbarrel

[tall torrent]

If u mean DB shotgun, veteran
If u mean combat shotgun, still veteran but veteran has better weapons to choose from

[pastel yew]

unless you wanna run exec stance the shotty damage feels rough

[broken parcel]

I get to be racist and xenophobic with a buckshot.

I see.

[radiant chasm]

It’s more balanced for combat shotguns but it’s still vet

[pastel yew]

best way of putting it ye

[unreal nova]

Stealth double, I think.

[pastel yew]

zealot only because by comparison its not as bad a pill to swallow

[wicked epoch]

can this work for a chainsword or nah

[unreal nova]

Funny boom out of stealth.

[tall torrent]

No

[radiant chasm]

Ability doesn’t matter too much i take shout, weapon spec and manstopper is what makes the weapon

[wicked epoch]

aight

[dry cloak]

Shotties need a buff or rework

[tall torrent]

That talent exists solely for mercy killer with knife

[pastel yew]

I think that bleed node is like

literally

yea

only for the knife

[radiant chasm]

Garbage talent always take the other one

[pastel yew]

1 stack of bleed really isnt much

[radiant chasm]

Only use case for serrated blade is a mercy killer+ 1 knife

[pastel yew]

ogryn batter is like 3? stacks of bleed and even thats kinda slow

and thats being applied to waaaaaaaaaay more targets

[tall torrent]

Batter is 4

[pastel yew]

even worse then ye

[tall torrent]

But u get to 8 fast

[unreal nova]

I mean Zealot top right stuff is basically knife memes or I guess chainstuff.

[radiant chasm]

Scourge is 2 and zealots only take it for the 30% crit chance

[pastel yew]

yeah its a mad amount of crit chance

[unreal nova]

You just don't crit as much without more effort on it on other classes. But still god mobility till you accidentally dodged off the map.

Don't ask.

[pastel yew]

wouldnt be me

🚬 I definitely didnt

accidentally lunge off a ledge, miscalculating because of the heavy attack speed and falling to my death

w-what kinda idiot would do that

[unreal nova]

I know right?

[tall torrent]

No

Top right is the best starting path for zealot

[pastel yew]

yeah the other paths have some rough choices

also no throwing knives

throwing knives based

[unreal nova]

Pity console players/controllers. GL using it lul.

[tall torrent]

Better toughness sustain in melee
Better crit chance through bleed
Gain toughness on dodge (crazy good)
Gain high TDR on crit (also crazy good)

[pastel yew]

lol, lmao even

[tall torrent]

And throwing knives are the best special sniping tool in the game

[unreal nova]

It's down on the Dpad.

[pastel yew]

WHAT

gross

so gross

[unreal nova]

Yep.

[pastel yew]

are there no other control schemes?

[tall torrent]

There are

[pastel yew]

also are we living in the year of our lord 2024

and controllers still cant just rebind keys

[unreal nova]

It's like that for most of them.

[tall torrent]

But most controller players are too lazy to re-bind

[unreal nova]

Also the one with bumper to dodge.

[steady wolf]

hollow knight moment

[unreal nova]

Which is a must unless you like jumping to the side and dying

[tall torrent]

The bigger problem is controller doesn’t have dodge & jump separation I think

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/812451078221463632.gif?size=64

[pastel yew]

I choose to eat shit when I accidentally jump instead of dodging

I definitely am not just lazy and dont want to change it

[unreal nova]

You trade making tags stupid as well.

Up on dpad btw.

[pastel yew]

this really is not a controller game

[unreal nova]

GL moving and pinging.

[pastel yew]

i imagine controller ranged meta is very different

[tall torrent]

Oh yea they used to have crazy bullet magnetism (doesn’t exist with mouse control)

[unreal nova]

Well, controller on PC can abooze the auto tag mod.

[tall torrent]

I think they patched that out tho

[pastel yew]

honestly give it to them again

when was the last time you saw a controller player actually pop off?

[unreal nova]

It still is there, just MUCH weaker.

[pastel yew]

that also basically do not exist at the highest levels

[bitter turtle]

im a lunatic

and havent changed that

lol

both are still on space

[pastel yew]

ditto

[tall torrent]

I re-binded jump to mouse5

[pastel yew]

I think mouse 5 is my special attack key

[unreal nova]

Like, I can switch to it and do some shots that should not work on mouse, but the leeway is smaller than some.

[pastel yew]

4 being my grenade

[tall torrent]

I play one of the weirdest keybinds ever

[pastel yew]

even mouse and keyboard gets some silly aim help with some weapons

[unreal nova]

You need to ads for it though.

[pastel yew]

the zarona makes enemy heads huge

that thing literally fires logs

or whatever its called now

[tall torrent]

It’s not bullet magnetism

[terse idol]

I got my funny jump key on alt 😌
Which, vt2 got my muscle memory too powerfu rn

[pastel yew]

hit me with it

so I can judge you

[tall torrent]

It’s just the hit registration box being large

[pastel yew]

enemy head hitboxes are bugger

ye

[tall torrent]

I don’t play WASD for movement keys

[pastel yew]

bigger

[tall torrent]

No

It’s the bullet itself’s hit registration box being larger

[pastel yew]

my judgement is increasing by the second

what do you use

I assume it must be comfy

[tall torrent]

WQSD

[pastel yew]

okay no you're a freak of nature

[unreal nova]

Just wut.

[pastel yew]

you a fighting game player or something

[tall torrent]

No I played piano for 11 years

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/812451078221463632.gif?size=64

[terse idol]

Woah

[unreal nova]

Is this some custom keyboard pad thing?

[pastel yew]

I fail to see how that makes it more comfy

[tall torrent]

No

Normal

[tall torrent]

Ring finger on Q
Middle finger on W/S
Index finger on D

[pastel yew]

hmm okay

[terse idol]

oh that makes snese

[pastel yew]

I judged too soon I'm testing it now

its not

like

horrible

[tall torrent]

It’s simply more ergonomic

[unreal nova]

It's just weirder than someone using a controller.

[pastel yew]

resting position more comfy but reaching other keys less so

[terse idol]

you do have like

A

Free

[unreal nova]

And yes, the one thing controller have is ergonomics.

[tall torrent]

Weapon swap

[pastel yew]

yeah but effectively replaces q

[terse idol]

It's like when csgo folks move from WASD to like ESDF

[tall torrent]

Nah I think the problem is the shape of WASD itself not being proper

[pastel yew]

esdf is basically identical though just

more keys

[terse idol]

😌

[terse idol]

If only i didn't build years of muscle memory around it

THAT is the struggle

[pastel yew]

little finger to shift for sprint?

[terse idol]

THEY TRIED TO TEACH ME HOW TO PUT MY FINGERS TO TYPE

[tall torrent]

Left alt for sprint

[terse idol]

Learned my own way

[tall torrent]

I don’t use shift or control

[pastel yew]

guess that makes sense

[tall torrent]

Horrible keybinds

[pastel yew]

not a fan though

maybe thats just because I'm used to it

only game I can think that defaults sprint to alt is minecraft? and I hated it there

[tall torrent]

C crouch/slide
X grenade
Z auspex

[unreal nova]

My hand hurts thinking about it though.

[tawny timber]

yeah that shit is dumb asf

wrists off the desk

just hovering there

[wicked epoch]

i just made a support commissar

[tall torrent]

E interact
R reload
F ability
T large item

[pastel yew]

drip check passed

[tall torrent]

1 melee weapon
2 ranged weapon
3 tag
4 comms wheel
5 stim

[wicked epoch]

now time to die the moment 15 ragers spawn

[unreal nova]

Would do if they ever rerun the red commisar set tbh.

[pastel yew]

rerunn with a different name and a higher price tag

[wicked epoch]

dude just use for the drip

i just stole dukanes hat

[terse idol]

[wicked epoch]

she pegs me so i take her hat

[terse idol]

just too powerful

[pastel yew]

im still livid about dukane

[tall torrent]

I’ve been liking these

[pastel yew]

the normal commisar cosmetic looks dogshit on the female rig

and dukane gets her own way cooler outfit

bro change the one we gottt

[wicked epoch]

me: clears auric mael rolling steel
dukane: prove yourself lil bro

[unreal nova]

I'm gay enough as well, just taken already.

[terse idol]

Someone showing drip without for the drip

[tawny timber]

dukane 100% got gorilla grip btw

[pastel yew]

real

[wicked epoch]

every loss

[pastel yew]

[wicked epoch]

she uses the power phallys

[tawny timber]

bro is taking the most grimdark backshots

[pastel yew]

not super keen on your zealot but I like the vet

[wicked epoch]

real

bolt pistol pointed at my head

power phallus in my ass

[pastel yew]

you can get good drip without for the drip

[wicked epoch]

if i say no

she shoots me

[terse idol]

oh no for sure

It's just nice to see examples without for the drip 😌

[tall torrent]

I might grind a couple million dockets for the commissary stuff

[unreal nova]

Too lazy to mod tbh. Is why I turbo controller at times lul.

[wicked epoch]

real

[tall torrent]

I want that green & tan psyker armor

[tawny timber]

is this like a consensual-non-consent thing

[tall torrent]

And maybe the white zealot robes

[pastel yew]

some of its real nice

I think most of my zealot is commisary stuff

just not the head

[wicked epoch]

kinda

[tawny timber]

commisary is lowkey goated

[unreal nova]

Plus, no point in drip if nobody else can see it.

[tall torrent]

I like the death korps grenadier helmet for zealot

[wicked epoch]

i aint boutta spend money on whats basically a wearable NFT