veteran-class

[bitter turtle]

Fake fan

[queen fox]

for panfrying

[bitter turtle]

FAKE FAN

[paper trellis]

Ik, had a brain fart. Turn me into corpse starch

[bitter turtle]

Guess you won't be going to Warhammer 40k convention

:(

[paper trellis]

I’m afraid of the smell Tbf. So many cons are a biohazard

[queen fox]

its not as bad as a smash tourney i've heard

[primal zealot]

Idk someone I know went to a warhammer convention and told me the smell was unremarkable

[paper trellis]

Yeah smash players are the worst in that regard. Especially melee players

[primal zealot]

Too many normies into warhammer these days I guess

[queen fox]

lol

i think its more that older people get into warhammer typically

esp tabletop

cus its soooo pricy

[bitter turtle]

Closest thing I've been to a 40k convention is the GW shop in Akiba

[faint beacon]

Nurgle fan club meet and greet

[paper trellis]

I mean when you worship nurgle you can’t smell yourself

[faint beacon]

But everyone else can

[paper trellis]

Which would be worse, a nurgle con or a slaaneshi con

[faint beacon]

It’s why Asmongold is Nurgles strongest worshipper

[faint beacon]

I’d rather deal with severe degeneracy

[remote sonnet]

That thing is a Nurgles' champion.

[bitter turtle]

#veteran-class message

There we go

Found the picture I took

[primal zealot]

Idk but there is a slaaneshcon of sorts …

[remote sonnet]

Then there is the Furry thing, that for some reason all of the Chaos worshippers are scared of.

[paper trellis]

Wait rainfurrest? If that counts I’d argue a smash tournament is a nurgle con

[terse idol]

Me as I

Slaneesh ain't always about sex!

[faint beacon]

I’ve blatantly told my friends if they’re ever dragging me to a Furcon if a single person oversteps a consent boundary im punching them

[terse idol]

Valid 😌

Now I will say, in terms of excess yesss furries spend alot of money on fursuits

[faint beacon]

It’s why I have my own homebrew CSM chapter that perfects the art of burning things in the name of Slaanesh

Pyromaniacs if you please

[terse idol]

I like that premise

Something diiifferent for slaanesh thank goosh

[jaunty sphinx]

most imperium fans i meet irl could pass for nurgle cultists tbqh

[paper trellis]

Got orange chicken and eggnog

[primal zealot]

Khorne and slaanesh are locked in an eternal battle over me

[paper trellis]

Too angry to be horny too horny to be angry

[faint beacon]

Well Tbf that’s normal

[primal zealot]

More like am I more horny or angry ?

[faint beacon]

Slaanesh and Khorne tend to fight over champions

Either they enjoy the art of their fight or enjoy killing

[paper trellis]

God that reminds me of a toxic ex who would deliberately be a shitbag so I’d hatefuck her

[dry cloak]

lucius and his bullshit hacks

[primal zealot]

Based

[paper trellis]

It’s fucking exhausting dealing with it

[faint beacon]

Lucius dies in a legitimate way

[remote sonnet]

When will the plot armour of Lucious expire?

[faint beacon]

Then Slaanesh just goes

Ermmm we’re not done sweetie 💅💅💅

Fucking brings him back anyways

FUCK THIS STUPID CHUD CHAMPION

I HATE HIM!!!

[jaunty sphinx]

emperors children are like my 3rd favorite traitor legion but I still hate lucius' ass so much

[paper trellis]

Well yeah. No just gets her going

[dry cloak]

wouldnt slannesh be an it?

[faint beacon]

I mean yeah

[primal zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[faint beacon]

He, She, It

[remote sonnet]

All gods are "it".

[jaunty sphinx]

slaanesh is both and neither depending on their mood or whoevers perceiving her

[paper trellis]

It, him, her. All of the above

[faint beacon]

Everyone kinda just goes by the common nickname which is “She who thirsts”

[hearty panther]

pronouns: yes

[jaunty sphinx]

eldar call her she who thirsts, most humans call him the prince of pleasure

[paper trellis]

It’s like how England used to view succubi as both

[bitter turtle]

All the chaos gods are actually just anime girls, probably

[remote sonnet]

10/10

Would not fap

[dry cloak]

have you heard of primarchgfs?

[jaunty sphinx]

eldar calling him she who thirsts comes specifically from the fact that slaanesh's favorite snack is eldar souls

[bitter turtle]

Yes

Actually

Lowkey

[thorn lark]

It's e-woks on the internet

[bitter turtle]

I actually like them

[jaunty sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/true-has-been-planted-true-counter-strike-cs-bomb-gif-2516458998739593313

[paper trellis]

Self inflicted

[faint beacon]

I think the funniest thing about Slaanesh is it always revolves around perfection

[dry cloak]

which one is your pick

[bitter turtle]

Goddamned phone

[faint beacon]

Right

[paper trellis]

Get bent knifears

[bitter turtle]

Anyway I was saying

Malcador was right

Primarchs would have been better as hot, tall women

[faint beacon]

And the daemons always have fucking crab features

I’m just saying

[bitter turtle]

Fucking stupid ass emprah

[jaunty sphinx]

tbf the craftworld eldar arent the ones whos slaanesh's fault

[dry cloak]

you didnt answear

whick one is your pick

[paper trellis]

True, but that’s just because they ran before the degen parties got bad enough

[jaunty sphinx]

ye

[thorn lark]

It depends. For omelette I totally agree. But I use a iron cast skillet to do a lot of cooking: veggies, meat, sauce..

[jaunty sphinx]

they were the ones warning everyone to stop before something very bad happens because their farseers were seeing that this path ends in ruin

and what do you know

[queen fox]

i said its best for pan-frying anything

[bitter turtle]

Yea i was getting the picture

[remote sonnet]

Butt... female custodes!!!!

[paper trellis]

Jokes aside I don’t really have anything against eldari, but I do think their armor looks goofy

The soul golem things I can’t remember the name of look cool tho

[bitter turtle]

Brooding women are

[jaunty sphinx]

eldar are cool as shit and they wouldve been my third army if I didnt get a sisters combat patrol as a surprise gift

[jaunty sphinx]

like any of the wraith units are the coolest shit I love their wierd ass heads

[paper trellis]

Wraiths, thank you

[bitter turtle]

[remote sonnet]

Not bald... unacceptable.

[bitter turtle]

God

We truly are on the worst timeline

Fucking emperor

[jaunty sphinx]

girls got that gear 5 hair

[paper trellis]

Based vulkan

[dry cloak]

And remember dont ask dove why he has bitemarks everywhere

[paper trellis]

Corvus legitimately is awesome tho. He doesn’t get enough love

Like everyone knows Vulcan is awesome, but Corvus is just as awesome imo

[bitter turtle]

Related but this is unironically the main reason I like kriegers

[remote sonnet]

IF is my favorite chapter, Covus is my favorite Primarch.

[paper trellis]

Have you seen that one comic with the sister of battle and a kreiger

[bitter turtle]

I'm not sure, so probably not

[paper trellis]

It’s surprisingly wholesome

[dry cloak]

Idiotoftheeast

He made it

[paper trellis]

Yeah I think so

[bitter turtle]

She's so cool

[paper trellis]

I like kreigers, but they can be a little much

[bitter turtle]

The memes are dumb

But 40k memes are dumb in general

Pretty sure the majority of people don't know anything about eldar except memes

[paper trellis]

Because elves in most settings are really fucking boring

[normal spruce]

Nurgle bf

(Idk about WH40K lore, just wanted to burn your eyes)

[oblique totem]

No thanks

[bitter turtle]

I think the elfdar are pretty cool

Oh yeah

And tau

Endlessly memed about

[tall torrent]

did u get the new zealot helmet

death korps grenadier

[bitter turtle]

I was thinking a lot about it

But i like

Don't play zealot much

[tall torrent]

it pairs well with a bunch of stuff

[bitter turtle]

So idk if it's worth spending money on it

[paper trellis]

Honestly the whole farsight situation is probably the mostly interesting part about the tau for me

[terse idol]

Again the memes prelude the reality of the regiments

[bitter turtle]

I got the new krieg hat for vet though

[oblique totem]

I sort of hate how the memes of 40k basically become accepted lore

[terse idol]

I gotta be on the Frontline that 40k is and not that crazy ar rhe same time

[terse idol]

THIS

[bitter turtle]

Yea people get their lore from 1d4chan

[terse idol]

The average krieg gameplan isn't running 100 million kriegs men into open field while shelling arty on them

Its long long long

[tall torrent]

I wish DT had a veteran personality that actually fits Krieg

[terse idol]

Siege campaigns

[bitter turtle]

Same

[terse idol]

That make up months to years with long trench lines

Like God fucking

Raaaaa!

[bitter turtle]

I want my cool emotionally stunted krieg woman damnit

[paper trellis]

It’s moreso that they treat other factions as though they have the same debt to the emperor, even planets that have never strayed

[bitter turtle]

I will literally pay money for this fstshark

[oblique totem]

You could argue that cutthroat is that

[tall torrent]

I don't like how if u want a ruthless veteran u HAVE to be cadian

[bitter turtle]

Too angry and cadian

THIS WUNS FER CADIA

[terse idol]

Oh i mean fair enough
At least it's better than "the kriegsmen will let other guarsmwn from other regiments die to win a fight"

No they'll do what's neasasary

[uncut ore]

so my vet is lvl 144 and so far I have completed

1

auric mission without dying

[terse idol]

They WILL TREAT THE INJURED

[bitter turtle]

Krieg are still human

[terse idol]

RAHH

[bitter turtle]

There are krieg defectors even

[wanton dawn]

Krieg is also a case of "my planet is my personnality" huh ?

[oblique totem]

It does annoy me that the personalities are:
A little dumb.
Too uptight.
And CADIA.

[tall torrent]

yea

[paper trellis]

Idk professional has a fair few laid back lines. They kinda just strike me as someone who dissociates to deal with trauma

[tall torrent]

professional does have trauma

blunt force trauma

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/894568981946576916.gif?size=48&name=FloppaShake&quality=lossless

[austere mica]

All the vets have trauma

[oblique totem]

Wasn't that the main issue with them?

[austere mica]

Their coping mechanism is just different

[bitter turtle]

I mean post heresy

[paper trellis]

I mean you don’t come out a vet without a generous amount of ptsd

[bitter turtle]

There's a story of a Krieger that deserted

Forgot what it was called

[oblique totem]

Did he survive?

[wanton dawn]

Was he a named character ?

[tawny timber]

I like the professional

[bitter turtle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/ta6suz/left_for_dead_short_story_a_krieg_trooper_deserts/

Yea

[tawny timber]

idk why everyone beefs with him

[bitter turtle]

Here found it

A thread talking about it at least

[paper trellis]

I mean in game he gets along with most of the cast. Seems it’s mostly the players with the beef

Or she if so you so choose

[tawny timber]

yeah everyone thinks hes a goody two shoes

I mean there is the line about sucking up to the commissar but like

given circumstances, isnt it completely reasonable to do that

[oblique totem]

Left for dead. Ha

[jaunty sphinx]

the professional is the funniest vet personality

[tawny timber]

Iwould

[bitter turtle]

I think loose cannon had that snappy comeback against a zealot personality that says something something for the emprah

And she went

Where was the emprah when I was knee deep in my squads blood?

Or something

[terse idol]

Pro and cutthroat got that mucho beef

[tawny timber]

big time

[paper trellis]

Male pro and female loose canon. But loose canon teases everyone

[austere mica]

Think I’ve heard that once

I play fem loose cannon though

[paper trellis]

Yeah that’s true

[bitter turtle]

Me too

She's funny

[austere mica]

Better than the other 5

[paper trellis]

Cuttthroat is always one step away from stabbing his teammates tho

[bitter turtle]

BUT I DONT WANNA CROSS THE BRIDGE OF MANY MARTYRS

[tawny timber]

i hear players call the professional a suck up though which idk i feel like hes most relatable for me

loose cannon always says some crazy shit

[wanton dawn]

Yeah but have you considered: "THERE IS ONLY WAAAAAAAAAGGGHHH"

[tawny timber]

loose cannon would 100% post hawk tuah memes on facebook

[paper trellis]

Pro has a great relationship with all the big guys, even the bully

[tawny timber]

exactly

[austere mica]

Loose cannon is the second heaviest drinker

[tawny timber]

low key a kind hearted guardsman

[terse idol]

LOK'TAR O'GAR

[fading yarrow]

45/50

[tawny timber]

wouldnt it have to be like 4th after the ogryns

[austere mica]

I don’t count them

[tawny timber]

are shotgunners good to eat?

[austere mica]

They are only beat by male fanatic

[paper trellis]

Most of what loose canon says isn’t malicious tho. It’s not like the cutthroat and loner. She teases everyone because she’s not military, she’s ex ganger

[oblique totem]

I run cutthroat but I would prefer a cadian who processes the trauma in ways other than being angry and bitter

[austere mica]

She is military though

[tawny timber]

ok cutthroat is my least favorite

wlways talking shit to everyone

[paper trellis]

Play pro with cadian background. That’s what I do

[tawny timber]

bro buries his trauma

[paper trellis]

She mentions in a lot of missions having gang contacts and going awol to join back up

[oblique totem]

Like: "Guardsman, you seem to be suffering from severe trauma relating to the fall of Cadia."

"I don't know why. I have nothing but fond memories of that day."

[austere mica]

Yeah but she also served in the guard

[bitter turtle]

She has contacts but she definitely served

[austere mica]

These two aren’t mutually exclusive

[paper trellis]

Ehh fair

[tawny timber]

shrinks in 40k??

[bitter turtle]

There's a lot of offhand cynical comments about her time in the guard

[paper trellis]

Chaplains

[austere mica]

She also talks about facing an ork charge

And some other kind of xenos

[paper trellis]

Even guardsmen have them

[austere mica]

I think

[bitter turtle]

Yeah

[thorn lark]

Oh sorry I missed that

[paper trellis]

Both loose canon and pro mention them

And apparently like irl chaplains, they are really really good at sending ppl to the lord

[terse idol]

Hell yeah

[paper trellis]

And fight like zealots

[terse idol]

Much like Astartes chaplains

Which is crazy

[oblique totem]

Crazy beats strong

[paper trellis]

Pretty sure the only sane ppl in the crew are the ogryns and maybe the French psyker

[tawny timber]

encountered my first female french psyker

literally sienna

[austere mica]

How have you only now met fem savant

Oh seer

[paper trellis]

That’s what mine is, but I haven’t really played her

[austere mica]

Seer is not French

[tawny timber]

who tf is french

[remote sonnet]

I don't know how you guys hear French accent...

[paper trellis]

Savant

[wanton dawn]

Savant female

[oblique totem]

I thought that was German?

[paper trellis]

The ex cop psyker

[terse idol]

She is certainly French

[remote sonnet]

I can't hear it at all despite speaking both English and French.

[terse idol]

Nooo way

[austere mica]

And seer also isn’t Sienna, she’s Hedda (bardinsdottir)

[terse idol]

German english accents are very distinct

As is French english

[tawny timber]

🤦‍♂️

[paper trellis]

I swear to the emperor autocorrect I am going to defenestrate you

[wanton dawn]

It is definitely more subtle than a parisian not trying

[austere mica]

Oh shush it’s literally the same VA

[paper trellis]

I might not like the French, but savants have a cool personality

[austere mica]

First thing I heard when I was in character select and the reason I played them

[low shale]

Why do all the Male Psychs sound wierd

[austere mica]

Reminder that Melk and Bardin are also the same VA

[low shale]

And wtf is up with Beloved?

[tawny timber]

duality

[paper trellis]

Most psykers in general sound weird because they are violently insane

[austere mica]

You can really hear it when he says “Sergeant major?”

[paper trellis]

A shard of the emperor

[austere mica]

No idea! This is intentional

[bitter turtle]

Could be the emprah

Could be tzeentch

[austere mica]

It could be a shard of the emperor

[tall torrent]

[austere mica]

Or it could be a daemon

Or a random warp creature

[bitter turtle]

Could be their imagination

[tawny timber]

it's hermaeus mora

[wanton dawn]

Psyker are a bit cookoo

[low shale]

Nah its this 🤣

[austere mica]

I think they give a bit too much clairvoyant advice for that

[paper trellis]

Apparently tzeentch did pretend to be the beloved, but iirc from the line, the psyker could tell the difference

[austere mica]

You say that

And are entirely wrong

[paper trellis]

?

[austere mica]

How could a dumpster wizard tell the difference between the emperor and the daemons specifically known for subterfuge

[low shale]

Dumbster wizard lol

[bitter turtle]

Very smart dumpster wizard?

[paper trellis]

Because the line is about how the voice is wrong and it’s not actually his/her beloved

[austere mica]

Well I guess I don’t know which line you are talking about then

But it also sounds like they are talking about a different voice

[bitter turtle]

Maybe both are tzeentch and one is just tzeentch pretending to be outed to make the other more convincing

[low shale]

So I was told the big god guy eats Dumbster Wizards

[bitter turtle]

Have you considered THAT

[paper trellis]

Entirely possible

[wanton dawn]

Also maybe Tzeench and emprah have other things to do from time to time

[austere mica]

Now this is real shit

[thorn lark]

She's British

[austere mica]

Anyway, the point of The Beloved is they are intentionally vague

[paper trellis]

Tzeench is one of the few entities that would have the knowledge granted to the seer

[thorn lark]

As a French I can spot quite easily faux french

[austere mica]

We aren’t going to get a clear answer about who the beloved is ever

[wanton dawn]

British now heh ?

[thorn lark]

Yeah she's totally a Brit.

[low shale]

Nah she sounds french I'm sorry

Maybe its some hybrid

[paper trellis]

The British company hiring British people? Now that’s just illegal

[thorn lark]

https://m.imdb.com/name/nm7754405/?ref_=m_ttfcd_cl18

[thorn lark]

It's faux french

I am French.

[pastel yew]

my headcannon that its a daemon of tzeentch pretending to be big E

[queen fox]

French canadian?

[thorn lark]

From France

[pastel yew]

my condolences

[queen fox]

There are far worse places to be from than france

[tawny timber]

wow i thought we only had humans in this chat

[thorn lark]

We just had four prime minister in less than a year. Everything's fine

[queen fox]

Like russia

[wanton dawn]

You do realize that'd make you worse at spotting your own accent heh ?

[paper trellis]

?

That’s like saying the Irish can’t recognize Hollywood Irish

[pseudo fiber]

paraphrasing here
"I had a dream there was a great castle in the warp, my beloved's voice was coming from it but it wasn't my beloved. It wasn't them at all."

something like that

[thorn lark]

As someone who has lived in a lot of different places in France and overseas... Yeah I am pretty confident

[paper trellis]

That’s the one

[wanton dawn]

Except that'd be irish speaking spanish

[austere mica]

Probably an M seer line

And why I haven’t heard it

[paper trellis]

Only ever heard it come from an m seer, so yeah probably

[thorn lark]

Even though she's trying to sound French with some words... She's totally speaking like a native English speaker for the rest. (I also have a 500 lvl female savant so yeah I heard her a lot)

[paper trellis]

Savant has a neat personality

Also pretty sure the one from the short story was the savant

[tawny timber]

☝️ 👨‍⚕️ good enforcers know their beat from the feel of the street

[thorn lark]

The one I could not spot is the creole sounding psyker. He's actually from Zimbabwe.

[paper trellis]

Yeah male savant

[tawny timber]

see I always thought he was african

thats why mine is named Okembe 💀

he has a central african vibe

[thorn lark]

I have never heard someone from Zimbabwe before (AFAIK)

[thorn lark]

Is his accent fake?

[tawny timber]

he legit sounds like a highly educated or at least kinda haughty central african

[thorn lark]

Ohhhh

[tawny timber]

I cannot say

I am from a pretty backwoods state in the US but we have lots of African refugees and I have had many friends from central africa

and he reminds me of them quite a bit

[fading yarrow]

Male and female Seer are English
Male Savant is African(not familiar with their dialects so I'm unsure on specifics, but certainly French-leaning), female Savant is French
Male Loner is German, female Loner is Asian

[tawny timber]

probably ivory coast

the rest of central africa was under belgian or italian control but the accents nowadays are all quite similar

[pseudo fiber]

https://www.twitch.tv/jamesalexanderva/clip/GorgeousOptimisticChamoisSoBayed-yTl3ivGRXjlD0GqV

[low shale]

For someone who doesn't know what is that

[pseudo fiber]

sppeaking of male savant

[wanton dawn]

btw

[tawny timber]

THIS IS AMAZING

[pastel yew]

uk vibes, politics everywhere is a mess

[tawny timber]

https://open.spotify.com/artist/1WryFbMe3DuToQGFN6Ke64?si=tXQ0z77MSISK3l6Ezgpwsg

rwandan singer

[terse idol]

Well yeah English va

Voice acting a French characterr

[tawny timber]

this is what savant listens to

[terse idol]

I didn't dispute that she WAS French, just that she voice acts a French sounding character

Also I'm sorry about Macron

[queen fox]

Come on political protests is a French national pasttime

[thorn lark]

sorry if i misunderstood you mate

[thorn lark]

so, about that

I am now living in Rome, Italy....

and it's like every friday there's a strike

[terse idol]

Naw all guuuchi

[thorn lark]

What I meant: she's sounding like a native English speaker impersonating a French person speaking English.

[low shale]

Oh ok

I didn't put 2 and 2 together 😅
Faux Fur/Faux French

[thorn lark]

let's just say that 9 times out of 10 it's faster to walk than to take the bus in Rome

[paper trellis]

huh. I thought for sure i got hit once, but i got on overwatch, largely by accident

i only thought about it halfway into the match, and thought for sure i got clipped

[jaunty sphinx]

I did it by loading into a malice and spamming psword

Oh wait on overwatch

Got that one on accident too lol

[paper trellis]

was running a shitty marksman's focus build for the penance

was halfway into the match realized i hadn't gotten hit, and decided to keep distance

[jaunty sphinx]

I'm finally free from the left keystone hell

Got the penance

[austere mica]

Best way to do the MF penance is the Lawbringer (zarona) shotgun

Alt shell spam in horde with a build

[paper trellis]

that works?

[austere mica]

Yes

How I did it

[paper trellis]

oh right because it's perfectly horizontal and a wide spread

i do have a fully specced combat shotgun too

[austere mica]

And infinite cleave (with Manstopper procs)

so double digit kills per shot

[tiny valve]

I envy you

Tbf I haven't played for very long (like two weeks) but I stil envy you

[austere mica]

I got that accidentally

[paper trellis]

tbf it's as long as you avoid hp damage, getting hit once to shields won't disqualify you

[tiny valve]

Oh ok that makes a lot of sense

[paper trellis]

i thought for sure i got clipped a single time, but looking back pretty sure it was fall damage since it was in the library

[austere mica]

The build (Totally up to preference, all you really need is MF and Deadshot but this enables like 10 seconds of uninterrupted fire with Infil)

And serrated is there for a mercy killer knife

[paper trellis]

no ammo issues?

[austere mica]

I didn't have any

You have like nearly 100 shells

and each can clothesline like 40 poxwalkers with a good scatter

[serene bough]

How does MF with a shotgun work

[austere mica]

Very carefully

Its really just for the peneance

[serene bough]

Oh I see

[stuck gorge]

nobody truly wants to use MF anyways

[serene bough]

I use 🥲

[stuck gorge]

are you sure

[serene bough]

Ye

[fading yarrow]

48/50

[low shale]

Can the Inquisition boss the space marines around?
I was watching a lore video that said they're practically seen as the god emperors word or whatever

[serene bough]

Specifically for one weapon (IIb ilas) but I do think its actually meaningful

[paper trellis]

focus target does the same thing in practice but better because of all of the utility

[serene bough]

Id rather grab elite dmg + always prep than go further down middle tree beyond demo team

[terse idol]

Yes

Well

[serene bough]

Plus it pushes BPs on 2 common enemies with only 1 stack (scab stalker 2hko -> 1hko and dreg shooter 2hko -> 1hko)

[terse idol]

Not boss them

[paper trellis]

most builds can fit always prepared tho

[low shale]

Sorta strongly advise?

[terse idol]

The inquisition has enough power to detain an astartes to question possible heretical activities

Or as we saw

[paper trellis]

so does the damage aura from focus target

[terse idol]

Possible chaos corruption like Titus

[serene bough]

I guess but clicking 1 head and forgetting about it works all the same

[low shale]

But they don't specifically rank higher on military standing?

[serene bough]

Not interested in investing further down middle tree its not really fit for my build

[terse idol]

I don't think they could boss a astartes captain around but the inquisitions whole job is to uproot heresey and corruption

[terse idol]

Do they?

[low shale]

Like a CIA?

[paper trellis]

separate. think marines vs military police

actually yeah cia is closer

[terse idol]

Yeah

Cia is closer

[low shale]

Oh ok I think I'm getting it now

[maiden oasis]

Am I going senile or does the plasma gun seem less plasma gunny? (Not obliterating armored enemies with a shot to the cranium)

[terse idol]

Suffice it to say if they have any hint of heretical activities they can bring the hammer

[paper trellis]

including all of the corruption of the cia lol

[terse idol]

Yes

The inquisition regularly also investigates itself for corruption and heresey

[hearty panther]

and it always finds some

[terse idol]

Its like the cia if there were multiple cia and they were all looking at one another trying to implicate the other of corruption

[low shale]

The lore so far is really interesting

[terse idol]

Its fun!

[low shale]

Im glad they atleast investigate themselves

[terse idol]

Me rn:

[terse idol]

Well there's different branches of the inquisition that searches different things

[low shale]

Theres 3 right?

[paper trellis]

no

[low shale]

One for witches, one for heretics and one for dae... oh

[paper trellis]

there's 3 main branches, and a bunch of off shoots

[low shale]

It had to be complicated 😅

[paper trellis]

of various levels of heretical behavior

[low shale]

So in Darktide we're part of the Inquisition right?

Ragtag Ig I chose you recruits

[hearty panther]

in the same way del toro was part of the cia in sicario yea

[low shale]

I'm not aware of the reference Im sorry

[stuck gorge]

We’re part of an inqusitors warband

[low shale]

Allies?

[hearty panther]

we're useful disposable assets

[low shale]

Oh ok

So what Inquisition is this?

[stuck gorge]

If you know SCP think class D but we give them guns and knives

[low shale]

Lmfao

Bro

I never would've put that together

That sad and hilarious to think about

So what branch is this Inquisition though?

The daemon one?

[hearty panther]

hereticus iirc

[stuck gorge]

I mean we are trying to reclaim atoma from heretics control

[faint beacon]

Ordo Hereticus

[low shale]

Oh ok

[tall torrent]

Ordo hereticus
Grendyl is a machinator inquisitor

[hearty panther]

and a total dom im sure

[manic echo]

is this a good infantry autogun build

using infantry autogun and dueling sword

[low shale]

It really makes sense when the one lady threatened me with a fate worse than death I bet their torture methods are gruesome considering they need info

[terse idol]

Trauma?

[low shale]

The lady at the start with the knife in her arm forgot her name ngl

[terse idol]

Braum?

She's a rogue trader

Oh

Zola

She's yeah

[faint beacon]

She’s under Grendyl’s wing

[low shale]

"If you betray me prisoner you're gonna wish you died" or some shit

[terse idol]

Yeah cause at that point of the story we're not part of the warband

Up until we're like level 30

[unreal nova]

It's 40k, your best bet is with the Tau in most cases.

[terse idol]

Are we not fully part of the inquisitorial warband

[hearty panther]

your options are,

• get vented through an airlock
• have information to be tortured out of you, and then be vented through an airlock
• be killed and turned into a servitor
• die later while running missions

[faint beacon]

I mean the Tau make their auxiliaries sterile so like is it really much better lmao

[unreal nova]

It only gets worse, and it's better to off yourself rather than meet with the Dark Eldar.

[tall torrent]

acolytes are still expendable

[faint beacon]

They just have slight value

That’s literally the difference

[unreal nova]

At least you get food if you serve, lul. The lower caste of humans get basically eff all.

[fading yarrow]

49/50

https://tenor.com/view/cosmic-angel-ascended-ascension-gif-21289430

[manic echo]

hello?

xD

[umbral scaffold]

What alternatives are there to the Plasma gun? Boltgun?

I am struggling a bit in have with horde cleae

I can demolish big targets but i struggle with hordes

[unreal nova]

Maybe get a CC melee to compensate?

[tall torrent]

learn melee?

[umbral scaffold]

I am using power sword but it's not enough. Should i go Rashaad?

[fading yarrow]

Lol
"Sure I might be a sterilized workhorse for the most doomed xenos race since the Eldar, but at least I'm not poor"

[manic echo]

anyoneee?

[tall torrent]

if a power sword is not enough somehow, it's not the weapon's problem

[umbral scaffold]

"Learn Melee" as if the melee in this game is even remotely complicated

[unreal nova]

Well, it's that, or starving or servitor. The latter is no difference.

[umbral scaffold]

You do realize i have 3 other people in my team right?

[tall torrent]

if a power sword of all things is "not enough horde clear" for u then u have other problems

[umbral scaffold]

This walking clown emoji 😂

[fading yarrow]

Most servitors aren't actual people and most worlds in the Imperium live in conditions similar to modern day Earth

[umbral scaffold]

I saw some people say thay Rashaad is good

But i need to level it up

[frank ether]

if its not why are you struggling

[unreal nova]

True, you just mostly get to see the worst of it shown though. But if you are stuck on one of those, yeah.

[terse idol]

Probably one of the best melee weapons in the game

[frank ether]

so is the power sword

[terse idol]

Also path is right

[umbral scaffold]

I think i should start playing more with pre built teams

[terse idol]

Like, yes you have 3 other people

you also have to pick up your own slack

It also depends

[umbral scaffold]

I don't struggle picking up my own slack. My build is just meant to deal with Heavies so my team can focus on other things

[frank ether]

yeah if I were in your boots I too would find 3 scapegoats so I can always be in the right

[bitter turtle]

how are you not clearing with psword

u just power it on and click three times

[umbral scaffold]

Yes but on Havoc when i am drowning on enemies. It gets a tad hard

[unreal nova]

People say that about my Psyker. I'm built for CC and horde control. Not so much carapace. So you either get used to it and keep trucking, or change.

[tall torrent]

put sunder on your power sword

[bitter turtle]

what havoc level

[umbral scaffold]

I think i just get used to it and try to find dudes to play with that compliment my playstyle

[umbral scaffold]

24

[bitter turtle]

its houldnt be a problem yet

are you pushing

to make space

to power it on

[terse idol]

I'm gonna say it!

[umbral scaffold]

Yes, i just play with randoms

And we don't communicate

I think that's the issue

[terse idol]

At that high havoc your playstyle should be at minimum your own horde clear

You aren't picking up your own hordeclear

[bitter turtle]

i dont usually communicate awith my team on 40 either

[tall torrent]

24 is not high havoc

[pastel yew]

communication always gonna be better than not tbf

[bitter turtle]

it is

of course

[umbral scaffold]

For example

[bitter turtle]

but it doesnt always happen

[umbral scaffold]

Last time i did Havoc

[pastel yew]

yeah ngl I have voice chat disabled in darktide I think

[terse idol]

Sometimes you also just resonate with your Randoms in silence

[umbral scaffold]

My team got stuck in the first room where you blow up the walls

[pastel yew]

because the only people that use it

[umbral scaffold]

And they wouldn't keep moving

[pastel yew]

are console players with open mic

ffs

[terse idol]

Othertimes I gotta bust out the mic cause someone isnt putting down the medkit

Lmao

[frank ether]

thats like, damnation 4

wdym I love open mic tankgryn yelling at me to get back in coherency

[unreal nova]

Problem is, no space to hook up push to talk there.

[terse idol]

Probably had to help them

[pastel yew]

no mute button on the headset itself?

or ability to adjust its sensitivity

so people dont hear you breathing or shuffling

[terse idol]

If your entire 3 players of your team is struggling on the first room it does sound like you should also be there to help them

[unreal nova]

Depends on headset then, the really cheap stuff lack it.

[pastel yew]

does console itself not have microphone adjustment though?

[terse idol]

Okay to be fair

[unreal nova]

Also, Sennheiser mics are uber sensitive.

[terse idol]

Those kinds of headsets are so cheap

They'll last a week and die

[pastel yew]

so you can reduce the sensitivity to only pick up voices and not background

[umbral scaffold]

I kept screaming to the Ogryn to cover me while i am picking up the Cyphers and he was doing his own thing

[frank ether]

dude how is push to talk wired to the headset itself lmao

[umbral scaffold]

Good old Darktide

[frank ether]

just how barebones are the consoles kekw

[serene bough]

truly the most infuriating thing is when you are mid mission and you get a group accept invite from previously requesting to join multiple groups

[terse idol]

I dunno chief

[pastel yew]

i'm picturing that like

[terse idol]

Sounds like you had to help your ogryn

[pastel yew]

free headset you got with the xbox 360

[bitter turtle]

i have no idea

why they allow that

[tall torrent]

@umbral scaffold honest advice if you're trying to rapidly improve your personal skills

find someone to run duos with
trial by fire
u will lose until u win

[serene bough]

it's killed me like 3 times now in really critical moments

[bitter turtle]

its fucking insane

like actually insane

that this is in the game

[umbral scaffold]

My Havoc is dogshit

[terse idol]

Cause if he's doing something and you're screaming at him like he's doing his own thing

[frank ether]

PTT is like basic aah software feature

[umbral scaffold]

It's Clandestum Gloriana

[queen fox]

this single thing is why i dont play pub havocs

[pastel yew]

wait what happens

[umbral scaffold]

God hemp me

[bitter turtle]

take infiltrate and solo it

if you fail then there is no excuse

[unreal nova]

More, some headphones can turn off mics by lifting and such. Like I said, the really cheap stuff might not have them.

[pastel yew]

i just did that one as my last havoc mission

yeah its

a bit messy

[umbral scaffold]

I got Pus Hardended skin

[pastel yew]

the first objective is so intense but after that you're chilling

[faint beacon]

Fucking hell I realized I gotta run havocs again

[umbral scaffold]

My Havoc assignment is 17, but CL is 24

[pastel yew]

honestly after that the mission is super easy

[serene bough]

if you spam request to join multiple groups, join one, and then start the mission, any other group you previously requested can accept the invite and give you a popup notification window in game

[bitter turtle]

infil on first objective is chill

[pastel yew]

its just that one starting objective I hate

[faint beacon]

Reset week

[pastel yew]

this is a good shout

[faint beacon]

Back to the Havoc Grind

[pastel yew]

if it comes up again it's probably what I'd run

[bitter turtle]

it turns from

[pastel yew]

the friends I'm playing with range in skill though, and some of them only just hit 30 so VoC helps them more usually

[bitter turtle]

"we have to move through one gorillion gunners spread out through the rows"

to

"we hide in corner and vet finishes the entire objective"

[pastel yew]

for sure I will run it next time

[frank ether]

mute button is not equal to PTT lol, it doesn't do the same functionality

[pastel yew]

thats so stupid

[frank ether]

I bet this is like a controller problem though

probably lack of free keybinds

[unreal nova]

But it can work the same in ways. Just more annoying.

[bitter turtle]

i never send more than 1 or 2 inv at a time

because of that inv thing

its absolutely

insane

[pastel yew]

idk I have my mic on open for discord and just use the push to mute button on my headphones if needs be

[bitter turtle]

that its even possible

[terse idol]

saame

Me as I hot mic and cough directly into my mic

https://tenor.com/view/cat-weird-weird-cat-beurk-hugojv-gif-17865869

[unreal nova]

Also, last I heard, Xbox Discord is trash tier.

[austere mica]

Same

[pastel yew]

me trying to listen out for disablers as console mic enjoyer shuffles, sniffs, crinkles a bag of chips and proceeds to say literally NOTHING of value the whole game

the only human words being that of complaint when they get hit or die

[terse idol]

😌

[pastel yew]

WHY OPEN MIC IF YOURE NOT EVEN GONNA MAKE CALLS

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGHHH!!!

[umbral scaffold]

God this mission is so ass

[serene bough]

mouth breathers are good entertainment sometimes

[terse idol]

bring your build UP

[bitter turtle]

clandestium gloriana is unironically my favorite mission

[umbral scaffold]

Why does a Host keep spawning on the catwalk?

[bitter turtle]

to force you into the death tunnel

[pastel yew]

I like the start and the end

[serene bough]

you gotta wonder how people's mics have a large enough range to pick up sound from anywhere

[pastel yew]

I'm not really keen on the middle section

[faint beacon]

Hear

[pastel yew]

it feels unfinished?

[faint beacon]

The siren song call

[bitter turtle]

weird

[austere mica]

Controller mic

[umbral scaffold]

I have an easier time running Auric Maelstroms with randoms than these people

[bitter turtle]

i dont like the end

lol

[pastel yew]

idk its a very different map design ig

[bitter turtle]

its kinda boring

[pastel yew]

the end is easy I just like the layout

[unreal nova]

IDK, I just know Senn mics are like that. It picks up a fan 2M away at times.

[pastel yew]

I dont like the clearing ice objectives generally

[terse idol]

[serene bough]

when I hear controller mics, I swear I can imagine the entire layout of their home through echolocation

[terse idol]

For me it was always the guys blasting music somewhere else

[frank ether]

40 minutes of auric maelstorm occasionally interrupted by smoke alarm chirp

[serene bough]

i mean just every sound is heard

[pastel yew]

[serene bough]

so nuts

[unreal nova]

Great quality, extreme sensitivity.

[pastel yew]

its because their sensitivity is set too high

[bitter turtle]

jesus

christ

[pastel yew]

if they would just turn it downn

[bitter turtle]

that smoke alarm chirping

you have no idea

iuts not even just in darktide

i have students that have that shit chirping constantly

wtf is wrong with all of you

[serene bough]

smoke alarm chirps are a meme

such an unpleasant sound

[unreal nova]

Low battery or something?

[frank ether]

just set up a soundboard and chirp back at them

[pastel yew]

yup

[faint beacon]

The siren song call

[frank ether]

this is one of those pics you can hear

[unreal nova]

I feel like that's more a safety issue. But then again, some people can get used to annoying ass sounds.

[frank ether]

nah it would drive me insane within an hour

that thing would not survive me

but some people are built different (wrong)

[unreal nova]

I know.

[hearty panther]

my previous carbon monoxide detector expired and would put out two very long and shrill beeps every minute

[pastel yew]

that sounds so awful

[hearty panther]

i lasted two hours before i took it out back and tried smashing it to shut up

and it kept fucken surviving, it was so durable dude

[pastel yew]

I suppose they dont want people taking them out back and smashing them

[unreal nova]

I guess it's to push people to get a new one or change the batts.

[hearty panther]

so i walked two blocks away to a business dumpster and tossed it in lmfao

yea the batteries werent replaceable

and like, i already know now we need a new one

but its 3am

shut up

anyway bought the same model again

cause i was very impressed with its robustness

[loud belfry]

apparently there are a bunch of people in America who let their smoke detectors beep forever

[hearty panther]

yes, unfortunately

the good news with fire alarms is that

if you dont maintain them

you wont live to deal with the problem

if you press people 90% will say "ill wake up before it kills me anyway because it'll be hot"

which a) not a guarantee and b) the smoke will kill you before you ever wake up

so many idiots die in their beds to easily preventable fires

literally every day, its incredible

its why i replaced that co2 alarm

its not a case of being stronger than a fucken gas molecule

you just die

[broken spade]

i have a friend who had it beep for over a year

it was so annoying

because i'd be in VC with him almost every day

and i'd hear it

[unreal nova]

Some people sleep through falling off the bed, slamming into a metal table edge on the way.

[fading yarrow]

[hearty panther]

god, i wish

wish i could sleep so heavily

not die

although honestly, eh

[frank ether]

I dont have one, I'll just fucking die

[hearty panther]

lmao

do you live in an apartment, cause there has to be one somewhere

[unreal nova]

I mean, if you like outside of US, that might be true.

[frank ether]

I actually came close to dying like this a few times in my life over the sheer stupidity of people I lived with

[unreal nova]

We simply don't have one in most HDB flats unless you basically get them off the net.

[hearty panther]

different rules for different structures to be sure

[unreal nova]

True, I know shopping centres have them.

[hearty panther]

timber built homes vs brick etc

[frank ether]

I'd be more worried about gas leaks

some people should just not be trusted with stoves, ovens, just anything involving kitchen really

[unreal nova]

To be fair, even glass cups can be a danger. Is just kitchens.

Also, absurdly sharp forks. Just why.

[frank ether]

huh

do you mean like, sharpened?

[unreal nova]

No, just made sharp. Stabbed myself by accident before.

[terse idol]

Monoxide detector strooong

[unreal nova]

Stepped on it, sliced into foot. Shrugs.

[frank ether]

all my forks are pretty blunt for what they are, I did however learn by experience razor wires are impressively sharp

When you use old blunt knives for a while you tend to forget a sharpened one can cut so easily

[unreal nova]

That's true.

[frank ether]

and that I'm not bad at chopping veggies, chefs just use really good equipment lmao

[unreal nova]

Also, it's not like they use the same thing for over 30 years, right?

[frank ether]

[iron marten]

I accidentally cut myself with ine of those tape dispenser teeth

Safe to say, never making that mistake again

[unreal nova]

Those are sharp, like steak knives.

[iron marten]

Yeah lol

[frank ether]

that looks painful

[iron marten]

I had like 4 parallel cuts on my finger because of it

Took like 3 weeks to fully disappear

[frank ether]

I had a pretty clean cut at least, it healed nicely

[unreal nova]

You sure you don't have diabetes or something like it?

[iron marten]

Nah, it's just the cut was long, and I also just recovered from a previous cut on that same finger with a kitchen knife

Though I didn't need to use a bandage after a 2-3 days

So I just had this streak for a while

[unreal nova]

Ah, so you mean for the scar to poof.

[iron marten]

Ya

[low shale]

Bro if the Beast of Nurgle wasn't trying to kill me

I would feel bad for it

Other than that its gotta burn in hell

[unreal nova]

Oh yeah, where were we before all that. Mic thing. There's also another issue with sensitivity. When the background noise is as loud at your voice being picked up.

[low shale]

Rotfly added when?

[unreal nova]

I feel like a Pestigor is more likely. Just copy pasta and reskin, lul.

[orchid hemlock]

[serene bough]

What is this

[unreal nova]

I mean, the only thing is giving it basically a free combat stim effect on use. .-.

[orchid hemlock]

putting aside the alt coding, I dont think Mister E has much credibility in balancing after his nuclear takes on ogryn 💀

[unreal nova]

And we all know Ogryns feel kinda bad to play already and honestly just needed buffs to the tank tree.

[terse idol]

gotta get that

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

polysporin

[orchid hemlock]

other than lucky bullte, the tree for Ogryn is generally fine

the biggest problem with them is the power creeping of their weapons, and because of this it leans heavily towards the left side of the tree, since the best weapons ogryn can use like those nodes

this also gutts Ogryn's mobility, because the best weapons ogryns can use are not mobile

but E's anylsis is basically that he thinks Ogryn got fucked by the """"""nerf"""""" fatshark did on the Havoc update

[unreal nova]

I thought the shooty side was the right side? I kinda gave up playing them since taking 4x the shots isn't really fun.

Especially after gunners went from annoying to you are down/ded in 2 secs.

[orchid hemlock]

PPB is good, the problem is everything after it

also, ammo econ is very important, which ghunlugger is not good with

pickaxes and shields love the left side, and you have the flexibility after the first half of the tree to go either heavy hitter or FNP

[unreal nova]

Ah. I figured the econ, not even two survivalist Vets can support it, heh.

[tall torrent]

Survivalist doesn’t stack

[orchid hemlock]

Gunlugger feels a bit awkward too because you need to sacrifice a lot of nodes to make it viable, and you dont get much for melee damage

[fiery raft]

running this on psyker normal?

[tall torrent]

Why not

[orchid hemlock]

assuming you are using a karl pickaxe, this is generally an achyls build atm:

[unreal nova]

So you don't get 1% from Vet A and 1% from Vet B, even alternatingly?

[tall torrent]

Aura does not stack, period

[orchid hemlock]

other than dominate, there isn't really anything after PPB you can take to aplify the pickaxe's damage

[unreal nova]

Ah, guess it might be better to figure out a fire team build to run alongside then.

[orchid hemlock]

Heavy hitter is very deep in the tree, and you will need to drop a node to reach it with the attack speed buff

"the best defense" is pretty critical for pickaxe, so not taking it feels very bad

steady grip is also important in higher difficulties to deal with gunners

something like this is soo much more flexible, I even have 2 extra nodes to work with:

u dont even feel bad doing this for more defense:

[fiery raft]

im just curious

seems interesting

[fair river]

Just realized I might have doomed my auric maelstrom teamates

1st game of the day

Gonna take 3 minutes to load maybe

[stoic basalt]

what are the preferred persk and blessings for a recon?

I feel like the dumdum/desthspitter combo should hit hard but would Dumdum and Infernus be better?

[unreal nova]

I use DumDum and Infernus, but pretty sure it falls off after heresy.

You just can't have enough stacks for it to really burn.

So it just feels like the only reason I'm doing damage is crit+Rend at times.

It's just me though, and I mostly slack around in malice on my Vet anyway.

So that build is perfectly fine.

[fiery ledge]

General question for fhe havoc gear for one piece it says help 100 players does that juzt mean complete 25? Or full 100 different people?

[unreal nova]

You just need to play missions as not the host.

If you mean the helms.

Dunno if it counts only wins or not, since I usually have to host to get it leveled up.

[fiery ledge]

Ty. Couldnt remember which piece it was

[manic echo]

would assault chainsaw be a good mix of hoard clear and flak killer?

[bitter turtle]

No

It's literally meta in havoc lol

Don't run onslaught though

It's a meme

[unreal nova]

Oh.

[bitter turtle]

Kinda with bloodletter

You can 1rev a mauler

[manic echo]

what about power sword?

[bitter turtle]

Power sword is the most lethal weapon vet has

It's just slow as fug

[manic echo]

so its bad for hoard clearing too?

since its slow

[bitter turtle]

It clears fast

As long as you have space to power it

[unreal nova]

So you are saying, just skip points in the right side and dump them elsewhere?

[manic echo]

ok

[bitter turtle]

By slow i mean your mobility

[manic echo]

dump mobility like usual?

[bitter turtle]

Are you using 12

[bitter turtle]

Cleave targets

Apparently it's pointless on even sunder swords

[unreal nova]

12? The Blue one. Assuming you mean marks.

[bitter turtle]

According to path at least

[manic echo]

what diff between cleave targe and cleave damage

xD

[bitter turtle]

Hitmass vs the damage distribution

[bitter turtle]

Is it the fast one

[unreal nova]

Yes, the one with torrent.

[bitter turtle]

I would swap to 14 or 6

14 has cleave and can shoot through trash enemies

6 has the highest ammo efficiency

[unreal nova]

Honestly enjoy the feel of the third down the list one, which I assume is the 6.

[bitter turtle]

As for the tree, yes, just don't waste 4 points on onslaught

[unreal nova]

Torrent is just funny.

[bitter turtle]

Use a melee weapon to kill crushers

Onslaught only matters for crushers

[manic echo]

brutal momentum + ?

[bitter turtle]

XIV = 14
VIc = 6
XII = 12

[manic echo]

for pwoer sword

[bitter turtle]

Idk what order they're listed in

[bitter turtle]

Power cycler of course

Bromentum or sunder

Both work

[unreal nova]

IDk either. I just know the damage is the middle of the line one.

[bitter turtle]

Brometnum is better for trash mobs

[unreal nova]

9x?

[bitter turtle]

Sunder is better for elites

[unreal nova]

Or kraks?

[bitter turtle]

Kraks are the most niche grenade but sure

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/recon-lasgun/accatran-mk-vic-recon-lasgun

[unreal nova]

Since if I skip Onslaught, I can easily go kraks again.

[bitter turtle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/recon-lasgun/accatran-mk-xiv-recon-lasgun

6 and 14

Frankly you are better off learning how to melee and just taking shredders

They are so much better in most cases and it's not even close

[manic echo]

what about MK?

[bitter turtle]

There are exactly 3 melee weapons that can't kill a crusher in under 1 second

[manic echo]

III or VI

powersword

[bitter turtle]

Do you want to spam heavies or lights

[manic echo]

uh

light

[bitter turtle]

VI is the more commonly used one

[manic echo]

for hoard

[bitter turtle]

Then yea

VI

[manic echo]

oki

[bitter turtle]

It has the finesse stab off block as well

Can 2 shot a crusher

[manic echo]

starting to love this thing but recoil still horrendrous

[unreal nova]

It's more fear since vets don't get the safety net of Zealots, tbh.

[manic echo]

thinking maybe I should grab voice of command instead

[bitter turtle]

Like I said

You're better off just learning how to melee

You will realize overheads are trivial to dodge

[unreal nova]

One stray poxwalker and ded.

[bitter turtle]

Then shredders are even more relevant for you

2 shredders = everything rager and under dies

In a huge radius

[fiery ledge]

Ok i need a tip whats best weapon for this bastard “make every shot count” pennance 3 days its not completed

Going insane

[unreal nova]

Also lack the funny mini Ogryn blocks of the Psyker.

[bitter turtle]

I used a revolver and just shot at poxwalkers until I was empty

[proven garden]

Do vets have good horde clear with the revolver or something

[bitter turtle]

At point blank

[bitter turtle]

Revolver is the opposite of a horde clear weapon

[fiery ledge]

Ita for a penance

[proven garden]

Yea I know I was trying to wonder what was going on in some guys head

[fiery ledge]

Did you use fan hammer or normal one

[bitter turtle]

Normal one

[proven garden]

Last one standing and he was unloading into the horde with the revolver

[bitter turtle]

I heard shotgun also works

That a pellet hitting counts as hitting

But don't quote me

I didn't try it myself

[fiery ledge]

Ahh ok. It been A I D S🤣🤣

[unreal nova]

Guess he was just expecting to lose, so just get more kills for the 'scoreboard'.

[proven garden]

Power move I guess

[unreal nova]

Since there are penances tracking kills straight up as well.

[gilded wraith]

Havoc question, if I'm running shredders with both demo talents and have no melee talents beyond reciprocity should I go shovel or ds?

[bitter turtle]

Depends

Ds4 works as long as you have a purg psyker or something like that

I'm assuming we are talking about high havoc

Like 35+

[gilded wraith]

Gotcha, to think the hordes?

[bitter turtle]

Yeah

[gilded wraith]

32, but hopeful

[bitter turtle]

If you bring 4 ds4s and have nobody to handle hordes you're gonna suffer

Especially vs moebian 21st

[gilded wraith]

Is uncanny good with shredders?

[bitter turtle]

The shredders are great but you tend to use it against uh

Mixed elites and whatnot

Yeah it's pretty good

Not necessary by any means though

[gilded wraith]

Gotcha. Skullcrusher/uncanny for the sapper?

[bitter turtle]

Shovel?

No

Well actually

I'm not sure in havoc

Don't think you can 1shot crushers anymore

Normally it's uncanny thrust

I'm not sure im afraid

[gilded wraith]

Cool, wasn't sure if all the grenades made skullcrusher viable

[bitter turtle]

I will say I don't think shovel is a great choice

[manic echo]

bruh

[bitter turtle]

It's horde killing speed is meh

[manic echo]

i'm playing darktide

and then get horror out of memory xD

[bitter turtle]

And if you wanted to stab elites in the face the knife and ds4 have way more advantages

[gilded wraith]

Thank you!

[bitter turtle]

If you really wanna boost your nades