common ogryn courtesy many of them don't know yet
#veteran-class
sullen jackal
ionic bear
fellas whats the average boltgun blessings look like
sullen jackal
fellas whats the average boltgun blessings look like
+24% explosion range with can explode at close quarters then a fun one
somber adder
fellas whats the average boltgun blessings look like
Meta?
sullen jackal
fun meaning damage bonus you can keep using with your play style
(honestly I'm just less sure outside that one blessing)
also perks of course 99% of the time maniac flak lol
grand perch
+24% explosion range with can explode at close quarters then a fun one
Aren't you thinking of bolt pistol? I forgot if they added lethal proximity to bolt gun too
sullen jackal
do not know but take if they did :v
sullen jackal
uhhh search for hammer of the emperor guide and do what it tells you
use it as your magic conch
tame lodge
fellas whats the average boltgun blessings look like
Surgical Pinning
Surgical Puncture
Shattering Puncture
Shattering Cavalcade (zealot)
Uh
Am I forgetting something 
Pinning Cavalcade?
Uh whatever
Check the guide
clever hedge
See pins for the guide. Very well made and has explanations on the choices made
untold mulch
We get words and prayers
So, jackshit
warm vortex
Ill tell him
orchid nova
lmao the mobility on this one
tacit sonnet
They put a tungsteen cube in that one
sullen jackal
Ill tell him
honestly that's what I learned on ogryn. Crouch when meleeing. Stand up and shoot over lil ones in the rear when shooty.
tacit sonnet
God, how much better is the new system
It's actually worse because all my previous godrolls are now worthless and cost nothing. Even worse, they are no longer godrolls and just suck. Bring back the old system so I can grind 20 aurics to get one weapon.
sullen jackal
Also don't 'wiggle' as ogryn ever. You big. Have the principle of least surprise where you do the least surprising thing always.
tacit sonnet
And then not get it even after 20
tacit sonnet
Weapons don't feel deserved
Even better, bring back the release version of itemization
And remove locks
Just random all of it
No hadron re blessings and refining
pseudo fiber
I NEED TO GAMBLE
untold mulch
LETS GO GAMBLING
stark panther
honestly also easier to defend from chokepoints and melee from the sides
sullen jackal
oh yeah also try to stay on the sides
stark panther
a lot easier for other ppl to see elites/specialists mixed into the horde that way as well
though ofc only if you can find a chokepoint
if you cant and find yourself in an area where the shooties are behind you and you cant move to the side, crouching generally is the best way
ionic bear
truly the thing that marks us as inquisitorial grunts is that we have to gamble for our weapons
regal smelt
Just random all of it
remove any indication of what the stat bars are so we have no idea what the fuck a stopping power even is or how much of it our weapons actually have
sullen jackal
also no numbers you have to guess
earnest bone
untold mulch
also no numbers you have to guess
The good ol bars
Oh yes three quarters of a bar of damage
I surely know what this means
sullen jackal
hey does this new weapon have a slightly fuller bar.i can't tell
queen fox
I surely know what this means
There was always the attack breakdown viewer
untold mulch
sonic coyote
How 'does' born leader work? Is it how much you would generate if you did generate toughness or only what you currently are making. So if I use voice of command at max toughness already would my allies get any more than the +50 yellow or would they also get +30 if I had 200 toughness max.
untold mulch
Emperor is laughin on his throne I think
sullen jackal
How 'does' born leader work? Is it how much you would generate if you did genera...
how much you would regenerate if you could regenerate toughness
queen fox
Emperor is laughin on his throne I think
Old bar system did suck ass but there was at least one good way to see dmg
sonic coyote
how much you would regenerate if you could regenerate toughness
That pretty nutty then.
Going to be running that from now on.
sullen jackal
basically at full toughness imagine you were at -0.00000001 off max toughness instead
(I don't think missing toughness works but not 100% sure might work off theirs)
sullen jackal
That pretty nutty then.
also yes. Yes it is.
you basically keep the entire team capped it's silly
thin stone
Zealot is sussy baka
sonic coyote
Vets got some great team support.
thin stone
I like a zealot
thin stone
Vets got some great team support.
Nuh uh
dry cloak
zealot chat is a wicked place
wise musk
Just started about a week ago loving the hellbore lasgun
dry cloak
Just started about a week ago loving the hellbore lasgun
sweet summer child
thin stone
Just started about a week ago loving the hellbore lasgun
In 3 days, you will hate it
severe gale
sweet summer child
explode.
tame lodge
Then in another 3 you'll love it
severe gale
helbore is fun
wise musk
Ahh like railgun in helldivers
dry cloak
helbore is fun
i dont say its not fun.
wise musk
I never full charge it
thin stone
helbore is fun
If you're an 80 year old who yells at kids to get off of his backyard
dry cloak
I never full charge it
then youre playing it wrong frankly
wise musk
Just enough to kill what I'm shooting at wasting ammunition is heresy
wise musk
@dry cloak sounds like heresy
dry cloak
Just enough to kill what I'm shooting at wasting ammunition is heresy
get yourself the blue one
wise musk
Mines red
tame lodge
Just enough to kill what I'm shooting at wasting ammunition is heresy
That's the funny part
Helbore is ammo neutral/positive
wise musk
Yea
severe gale
If you're an 80 year old who yells at kids to get off of his backyard
helbore is fun though
dry cloak
blue one i.e the fastest one
severe gale
idk why being old would make it more fun?
because it’s slower?
helbore is plenty strong
wise musk
Are you talking plasma?
dry cloak
no
severe gale
Are you talking plasma?
the different marks of the helbore
thin stone
helbore is plenty strong
Not as strong as my recon lasgun taking out hordes of enemies
wise musk
There's a new one coming?
severe gale
Not as strong as my recon lasgun taking out hordes of enemies
magdumping hordes
this explains
severe gale
There's a new one coming?
there’s 3 marks, you can change them in your inventory
dry cloak
There's a new one coming?
no
severe gale
on the upper right where it says “marks”
dry cloak
this one
severe gale
click that
wise musk
Yea I've tried all three
thin stone
magdumping hordes
Hordes of gunners
severe gale
Hordes of gunners
helbore can kill swarms of gunners easily lol
weight of fire makes it shoot plenty fast enough
and you’ll usually one shot them
and anyway, recon las is very strong lmfao
no point to compare them
wise musk
I use MK IIIa
thin stone
helbore can kill swarms of gunners easily lol
Fair
Idk why I don't like how it looks
Infantry lasgun is also fun
dry cloak
all las weapons are fun
severe gale
infantry las
…
brings me back……
the mk12 lasgun used to be OP
now it’s just
worthless
lmfao
power creep
yummers
dry niche
Need lascannon
dry cloak
Need lascannon
that would be a ogryn weapon
tacit sonnet
best catachan sword?
severe gale
best catachan sword?
i’m pulling a blank on the name
but
mk4 i think?
mo
mk7?
it’s sweep into ovehead
tacit sonnet
This one?
severe gale
heavies
dry cloak
mk7
severe gale
yah
tacit sonnet
This
But I wonder why? MK IV with vanguard light combo and strikedown on h1 looks better at first glance
dry cloak
i think this is becuase of hordeclear i presume
thin stone
mk4 i think?
MK4 is best yeh
The one with holes
Best horde clear, but shat armour damage
severe gale
MK4 is best yeh
no it’s the mk7 that’s best
severe gale
Best horde clear, but shat armour damage
all 3 have bad armor damage
severe gale
Why's that
horde clear is heavy light
push attack into light overhead has good single target
parry follow up is the light overhead as well, for more damage
mk4 is okay
but not really that good
thin stone
Ohk
hollow ibex
I still prefer Mk 4
For single target opening with a heavy is preferred
Against anything else you’re either spamming parry (rager) or using something else
severe gale
For single target opening with a heavy is preferred
just light into heavy
with mk7
and it’s got overhead light after heavy
hidden torrent
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone
tawny timber
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone
Ho Ho Ho!
hollow ibex
just light into heavy
for weapons with alternating lights/heavies for horde clear, i only use ones that go L1 H2
cba'd to change my muscle memory for a single weapon for 2% improved dps against single targets
thin stone
poor on armor and feels bad against ragers
Same
severe gale
Same
how does it feel bad against ragers
it’s probably the best anti rager melee lmfao
tall torrent
tall torrent
infantry lasgun
tall torrent
IIb
grand perch
can i see VII by comparison?
brittle turtle
When I get a vet with VoC who didnt pick the yellow thoughness 
grand perch
based lad
clever hedge
Heresy
brittle turtle
nah, he was dreadful
clever hedge
Next one is gonna run res shout
brittle turtle
lasgun rifle user who couldnt shoot a horde to save his own life
clever hedge
Merciful emperor help us
We must educate that poor guardsman. He did not read is vet primer
inland orchid
If your teammates can’t see, your enemies probably can’t either 
tawny timber
you can obfuscate the whole map
true meta
hollow ibex
you can obfuscate the whole map
mfer out here giving lung cancer to his teammates
pseudo fiber
you can obfuscate the whole map
tall torrent
can i see VII by comparison?
falter might be meta on mk7 infantry lasgun lol
this gun takes really crazy investment to be pushed into 1-tap vs gunner and flamer (exe stance alone is not enough)
but it can consistent 2 tap headshot without much investment
grand perch
yeah looks like a fair judgement
thin stone
The poster boy of Darktide is ass now
That is MK7 infantry lasgun
rigid schooner
Honestly my issue with inflas is that sure you have lots of ammo, but you can't push it through the gun in any reasonable amount of time
rigid schooner
DRG has a similar phenomenon with engineer's minishells
tall torrent
is it a hard stop stagger?
it interrupts the attack
so let's say a flamer starts flaming
u hit them in the head with mk7 infantry lasgun with falter
hearty panther
gunner already shooting?
tall torrent
it stops their attack
tall torrent
gunner already shooting?
yes
tall torrent
nah it doesn't
falter + ghost
crits don't push any breakpoint on mk7
they're at best for shock trooper ammo save
hearty panther
god the blessings are shit on ilas
tall torrent
Ik
rigid schooner
I can't help but feel that the light helbore does it's job better
grand perch
if you talk shit about ilas, i will haunt your sleep
rigid schooner
if you talk shit about ilas, i will haunt your sleep
I don't need to
tall torrent
Mk IX infantry lasgun
I will say that if u run exe + falter for Mk IX, u can headshot interrupt mauler overhead and rager combo
but that's like
extra cursed
grand perch
does going for MF and subnodes do anything interesting for them in your opinion?
grand perch
so thats why its always been a onetap machine for me
rigid schooner
I feel like inflas needs more soft stats to be competitive;
Handling, swap speed, reload, recoil, etc
tall torrent
Nah
Mainly the inverse falloff profile and flak ADM
I think IIb can use a small damage buff to be able to 2 headshot shotgunners without superiority complex
grand perch
they could make unyielding ADM better. not a significant buff i just dont know why its rather low
rigid schooner
Honestly the recoil for me has always been the deal breaker. It kills my ability to use it a interest in trying it too
Even other guns with recoil don't give me trouble
serene bough
<:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
My favorite
grand perch
My favorite
pew pew enjoyers
tawny glen
can sum1 post recon las build pls
hearty panther
honestly my biggest gripe with the ilas and shotguns for the matter is the 1.75 stam/s sprint cost
orchid hemlock
orchid hemlock
can sum1 post recon las build pls
somber adder
Tanner x Mr E Darktide family content is something I am looking forward to
orchid hemlock
When Mr E makes a "joke" :
serene bough
honestly my biggest gripe with the ilas and shotguns for the matter is the 1.75 ...
True but I don't do much sprinting w/ the ilas
They could use a bit of a damage buff against flak also
wise fossil
Is the chainsword bugged? It feels like the weapon constantly 'sticks' in attack animations and takes extra frames to complete attacks
somber adder
It saws
thorn lark
he's totally grooming Tanner
somber adder
Tanner embracing his catboy arc
thorn lark
''There is no luck in Darktide'' Mr E compilation of best quotes
candid agate
you guys think characters should get reactions to everyone dying?
for the vets could be:
cutthroat: "i survived cadia, ill survive without them"
professional: "reminds me of that campaign on planet name
loose cannon: "useless karkers, as always"
hearty panther
they already do
candid agate
they dont?
hearty panther
oh you mean literally everyone at once
somber adder
They do for teammates dying, not sure if they do for being the last person standing
orchid hemlock
grand perch
i feel confirmed in my position to take rending strikes over bring it down
tall torrent
I'm only gonna cover exe stance breakpoints for a few weapons I think
infantry lasgun (3)
helbore lasgun (3)
boltgun (1)
bolt pistol (1)
debating on if I want to cover vigilant autoguns with exe stance
tall torrent
nah
serene bough
Rending strikes for IIb?
severe gale
debating on if I want to cover vigilant autoguns with exe stance
get gale to do it
grand perch
i mean i have 2 builds with braced autoguns that use exec ill be glad for any less optimal exec weapons you cover with it
tall torrent
get gale to do it
he's currently inhaling large amounts of copium trying to check vigilant autoguns' stagger breakpoints with/without falter
it's extra complicated because of stagger stacking and 2 of the v.autos are bursts lol
manic cloak
he's currently inhaling large amounts of copium trying to check vigilant autogun...
I'm surprised he determined the vigilant autoguns were even worth the effort to figure out breakpoints in their current state.
frank basin
he's currently inhaling large amounts of copium trying to check vigilant autogun...
He kinda biggest fan then
umbral scaffold
Is Dueling Sword and Las Pistol valid for playing a Krieg commisar?
inland orchid
You’re a commisar, anything involving a pistol is already passing grade
Anything else is personal preference imo, commissars love varying their melee weapons
umbral scaffold
Yeah it's just if they actually using it lore wise
umbral scaffold
wtv?
inland orchid
Whatever
oblique totem
Is Dueling Sword and Las Pistol valid for playing a Krieg commisar?
Short answer: Yes
umbral scaffold
umbral scaffold
Wish we could dual fucking wield sword & pistol
cobalt crest
Tbh isn't the longlas gonna suffer from the issues that the other long range high damage weapons suffer
cobalt crest
Being not as good as the plasma rifle and revolver?
faint beacon
A9 and V7 are actually Decent on Stagger BPs
I DM'd path all the stagger BPs
probably expect that in the Vet Guide on steam if he attempts adding them LMAO
@tall torrent I'll do Helbore's and Shaul's later not tonight
that was kinda miserable trying to mentally do all that
solemn niche
@orchid hemlock I'd rather the word is reclaimed like other words were reclaimed to no longer have a negative connotation. Also those two words have very different meanings: one referes to physical appearance alone, the other has a much deeper significance
orchid hemlock
<@717361443564945468> I'd rather the word is reclaimed like other words were rec...
no
solemn niche
stern but fair
serene bough
Tbh isn't the longlas gonna suffer from the issues that the other long range hig...
Maybe, but who cares
Its iconic and adds variety
Just gotta see how they implement it
orchid hemlock
"reclaiming" or not, my existence is not trying to "trick" people into believing I am something else
solemn niche
as far as I can tell using the word that way is wrong, it's karking tragic that some people take that sort of argument seriously. alas, that's the world we live in. sadge
solemn niche
wrong as in not the intended way to use it
like in orange is the new black they start calling the prisoners cookies because they can't use the B word but that's not what a cookie is, they are using it wrong
cobalt crest
Just gotta see how they implement it
I think if they made the special let you swap power levels from lower damage more battery to high damage low battery and then also change sights from irons to scope it'd be good
severe gale
"reclaiming" or not, my existence is not trying to "trick" people into believing...
is this talking about the word that weebs use for trans women
or ig trans people as a whole
cobalt crest
Is traps what weebs use for trans women >_>
cobalt crest
Thats terrible
severe gale
but it’s been used as a slur against trans women
orchid hemlock
the original usage of the word came from a transphobic weeb convention, and regardless the way it is used the predominant class of people who use it are gooner CIS weebs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxeB2AXIG3E&t=812s&pp=ygUSdGhleSBhcmUgbm90IHRyYXBz
severe gale
yummers video essay
cobalt crest
but it’s been used as a slur against trans women
I remember using it in highschool when it was popular but at the time I didn't know it was a slur and I was just following my friends
severe gale
I remember using it in highschool when it was popular but at the time I didn't k...
that’s usually how it goes for highschool lmfao
faint beacon
but it’s been used as a slur against trans women
You know now that you put it like that it makes a lot more sense
orchid hemlock
hell, the characters they use the name on don't even call themselves this
cobalt crest
But I agree that some slurs shouldn't be reclaimed tbh
inland orchid
hell, the characters they use the name on don't even call themselves this
why would they, they got all sorts of other titles to call themselves
hell that pink haired fucker is a whole knight
orchid hemlock
weebs being japanphiles but can't even read 2 sentences without going 'where are the subtitles'
solemn niche
alright see ? this is exactly what I'm talking about. there is nothing in the show about preferences or pronouns, astolfo is literally just a guy who looks like a girl. That's what I'd say is a trap. associating that with trans women is nasty and unfair, not to mention improper.
severe gale
You know now that you put it like that it makes a lot more sense
yah and also the term “trap” itself implies that the person is attempting to trick whoever they’re interested in,
for example, a trans woman interested in a man
by calling the woman a “trap”, you implicitly state she is not a woman, but instead a man attempting to trick another man
inland orchid
It's just slang being used as slang
orchid hemlock
alright see ? this is exactly what I'm talking about. there is nothing in the sh...
no this is conventionally false
hollow ibex
you people are taking this shit too seriously lol
orchid hemlock
Asotlfo's gender is never revealed in the original matieral
orchid hemlock
@radiant chasm u see this shit?
severe gale
It's just slang being used as slang <:loregryn:1036580674741731379>
harmful slang
inland orchid
harmful slang
most slang is
inland orchid
thats why the term slurs exist
orchid hemlock
this is not surprising
tru
severe gale
most slang is
no, most slurs are
orchid hemlock
thats why the term slurs exist
lack of empathy
faint beacon
A lot of people tend to lack it 🚬
orchid hemlock
"it doesn't bother me" no shit sherlock, are you part of the demographic that it represents?
severe gale
why would i have empathy over some words that dont hurt me unless i let it
are you like
idek
inland orchid
yall are takin this too serious gang
severe gale
basic fucking empathy!!!!
orchid hemlock
nah im stopping this right in its tracks before it gets off the ground
inland orchid
it already was imo orcka
somber adder
yall are takin this too serious gang
If it doesn't bother you quit yapping
inland orchid
If it doesn't bother you quit yapping
it bothers me that other people are bothered
orchid hemlock
<@&735928989146939404>
solemn niche
time to bring in the holy prometeum and sanitize the chat
inland orchid
im with u on shutting this down orcka but u did pass a whole video essay on the topic
so that got me confused
somber adder
it bothers me that other people are bothered
So you're saying people can't be bothered if slurs are used to describe them, but if someone is upset about that it's a problem? lol
orchid hemlock
im with u on shutting this down orcka but u did pass a whole video essay on the ...
because im trying to actually educate yall on where it came from and why we don't want yall to use it 💀
inland orchid
because im trying to actually educate yall on where it came from and why we don'...
attempting to educate on here? you are a very hopeful man
hollow ibex
why did this conversation even start in vet chat to begin with
somber adder
because im trying to actually educate yall on where it came from and why we don'...
And I appreciate it 
Never knew the exact origin
inland orchid
more power to you
hollow ibex
i don't want to see politics on my darktide gaming discord lmao
orchid hemlock
why did this conversation even start in vet chat to begin with <:KEKW_ogryn:1022...
i posted this as a joke between mister E and Tanner
severe gale
LMFAO
hollow ibex
maybe none of this would've started if you stop posting garbage generated by garbage
hollow ibex
garbage content creators living rent free in your head
i hardly ever see anyone post shit from shittubers
you're the one giving them attention that they don't deserve
orchid hemlock
being a todler like this and showing a lack of empathy is not my job to make yall feel comfortable about it
faint beacon
I personally think you should probably reflect on your life if you think offending people is funny and you just call them snowflakes for getting offended over it 🚬
severe gale
I personally think you should probably reflect on your life if you think offendi...
fax
faint beacon
That's just me though 🚬
severe gale
hollow ibex
somehow this chat always ends up being a cluster when shittubers are brought up, so let's maybe just stop giving them attention
orchid hemlock
is why i brought up the video essay
i was responding to this: #veteran-class message
inland orchid
cool
tired ember
Regardless of anything else, this is clearly a rule 11 vio
woeful junco
<@&735928989146939404>
quick tell me who is to blame
severe gale
quick tell me who is to blame
mage
inland orchid
woeful junco
oh Gawain is here cool he can handle it
orchid hemlock
Regardless of anything else, this is clearly a rule 11 vio
ill delete it
tired ember
Please and thanks
woeful junco
(sorry Gawain but my food is almost ready)
tired ember
All good my dude, enjoy
orchid hemlock
oh Gawain is here cool he can handle it
ill start from here: #veteran-class message
hearty panther
i didnt know hank moonlighted as a doordasher
broken spade
wtf is happening?
tired ember
This is an very veteran chat moment
severe gale
This is an very veteran chat moment
real
faint beacon
The average Vet chat moment
inland orchid
wtf is happening?
nothing to worry bout its over already
tall torrent
2 infantry lasguns done
faint beacon
I HATE MY CHUD CHAT
severe gale
nothing to worry bout its over already
says the issue
orchid hemlock
wtf is happening?
multiple people are trying to """"""""""""reclaim""""""""""""" a transphobic slur 💀
severe gale
so many quotes
inland orchid
says the issue
i didnt know you liked me this much meow
cobalt crest
What the heck happened
somber adder
First time I've seen vet chat be a mess. Usually its general or #zealot-class
severe gale
i didnt know you liked me this much meow
i find you very annoying
hollow ibex
can we just go back to crying about vet not getting a weapon in the next patch? jfc
cobalt crest
First time I've seen vet chat be a mess. Usually its general or <#10469135896147...
Zealots being nasty? Never
inland orchid
i find you very annoying
then talk with me more, maybe that'll change but thats just be being hopeful
faint beacon
2 infantry lasguns done <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
You will add... the VA's to the guide....
inland orchid
do wtv u want
faint beacon
I went through that pain you are adding them
severe gale
then talk with me more, maybe that'll change but thats just be being hopeful <:t...
every interaction with you only reinforces my opinion
so, that won’t change
cobalt crest
Should I get KFC
severe gale
Should I get KFC
no get chick fil a
somber adder
No
solemn niche
imo accepting it as a slur gives more power to the people who use it as a slur. you are playing their game
severe gale
it’s so good
tall torrent
You will add... the VA's to the guide....
clever hedge
Should I get KFC
Bojangles all the way
tired ember
My final word on the subject matter is "please focus more on the shooty blam blam guy, less on things likely to cause massive arguments"
orchid hemlock
imo accepting it as a slur gives more power to the people who use it as a slur. ...
LMAO yes, let's have a bunch of vitamin deficient weebs get to label me as a hentai tag 💀
inland orchid
so, that won’t change
At least one of us can be hopeful lol, have a great thanksgiving
somber adder
If you're not the target demographic of a slur you don't get an opinion on if it should be reclaimed.
solemn niche
If you're not the target demographic of a slur you don't get an opinion on if it...
fair, i rest my case
hearty panther
My final word on the subject matter is "please focus more on the shooty blam bla...
this is going to cause a massive argument
cobalt crest
If you're not the target demographic of a slur you don't get an opinion on if it...
Just like men with women's issues lol I don't get why so many men feel like they get a say
faint beacon
remind me in 5 months
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943...
Reminding you every day
cobalt crest
Wait why does his guide need VA's?
somber adder
Anyone else ready to have their hopes of justified nerfs to bolter and plasma being shattered on the 3rd?
faint beacon
Vigilant
tall torrent
Reminding you every day
faint beacon
Auto's
cobalt crest
Oh
cobalt crest
LOL
inland orchid
Anyone else ready to have their hopes of justified nerfs to bolter and plasma be...
no matter the nerfs or buffs, ima still use my plasma
inland orchid
can never get over making blue soccer sized holes in people
cobalt crest
WITH AND WITHOUT FALTER
Did you get paid minimum wage
tall torrent
WITH AND WITHOUT FALTER
After Helbore and shock maul u might as well go check grievous wounds for zealot
faint beacon
2 pennies
somber adder
no matter the nerfs or buffs, ima still use my plasma
I can respect that. But the amount of people running around on aurics either completely trivializing the mission or magdumping everything into the first poxwalker only to vacuum up the entire ammo supply is vexing.
cobalt crest
Omg you're just like those little chimney sweeper boys
solemn niche
are there balance changes planned for the next update ?
faint beacon
Anyways Vet chat I'll dump the super duper pre-alpha guide Stagger BP's in here for your eyes to see and absorb the knowledge
inland orchid
I can respect that. But the amount of people running around on aurics either com...
baby's 1st plasma runs never get old, sorry you had to experience that
tall torrent
are there balance changes planned for the next update ?
Most likely
cobalt crest
I can respect that. But the amount of people running around on aurics either com...
I think best way to nerf plasma would be to nerf its ammo
inland orchid
i get second hand embarassment when i see a fellow plas shooter explode
tall torrent
I think best way to nerf plasma would be to nerf its ammo
Nah
somber adder
I think it would be to nerf left click and buff charged shots
white minnow
the plasma gun change we need is to give it to psyker
faint beacon
Anyways Vet chat I'll dump the super duper pre-alpha guide Stagger BP's in here ...
C3: 3 Round burst
A9: 2 Round
V7: Single Fire
cobalt crest
I would like a plasma pistol ngl
tall torrent
My idea for plasma changes
hipfire cleave 50 nerf to 5 (can cleave through 1 gunner/rager)
hipfire dmg vs carapace & unyielding massively reduced
brace fire cleave 100 nerf to 15 but can cleave through carapace armor (can hit 2 crushers)
brace fire dmg vs carapace & unyielding massively increased
faint beacon
Basically from what I learned from this
C3 kinda fucking sucks staggering things
A9 and V7 are good though
solemn niche
instructions unclear, buffed plasmagun damage by 200%
severe gale
C3 kinda fucking sucks staggering things
i mean VA suck in general lol
cobalt crest
Get fried rice
faint beacon
i mean VA suck in general lol
On everyone minus Vet
keep in mind this is talentless
faint beacon
Vet makes them playable
cobalt crest
I read somewhere the VA has really shitty recoil if you're moving
Which is kinda dumb no?
tall torrent
That’s every gun that has recoil
cobalt crest
Vraks is pretty manageable imo
inland orchid
stationary fire will always be better than moving fire recoil wise
for obvious reasons
broken spade
having more recoil while moving is like, most video games i think
tall torrent
Crouching reduces recoil, moving increases recoil
cobalt crest
No but Idk the vid I saw was the vraks had like really unreasonable amounts
tall torrent
No but Idk the vid I saw was the vraks had like really unreasonable amounts
Which gun?
cobalt crest
Maybe I'm crazy I've never tried it before
faint beacon
No but Idk the vid I saw was the vraks had like really unreasonable amounts
Any of the Vigilant Auto's under 70 Stability
inland orchid
Crouching reduces recoil, moving increases recoil
fatshark's lucky we dont have a prone function or we'd be hitting the sickest drop shots for the sake of recoil
cobalt crest
Which gun?
I think it was the 2 shot one?
tall torrent
I think it was the 2 shot one?
That’s Agripinaa IX
faint beacon
My favorite gun...
cobalt crest
Maybe I should try vraks
tall torrent
There’s no Vraks vigilant autogun anymore
faint beacon
Matters on how you want to play imo
supple stag
Graia VII my beloved
cobalt crest
Shanghai 360 or bourbon st grill
tall torrent
@faint beacon should I add recoil gif to ranged weapons
broken spade
wtf did they do with the vigilant autogun names?
faint beacon
change them
faint beacon
<@820414945543716944> should I add recoil gif to ranged weapons
What to show off their recoil?
tall torrent
What to show off their recoil?
Yea
tall torrent
like, I have these
broken spade
i wonder if it'll get to the point where you add enough gifs to lag someone's pc
faint beacon
like, I have these <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
ADS?
cause sometimes hip and ADS are drastically different
faint beacon
Perfect
broken spade
maybe just fire for 3 seconds
because 20 shots on a recon vs 20 shots on a revolver are very different
tall torrent
I can’t precisely control “3 seconds”
tall torrent
because 20 shots on a recon vs 20 shots on a revolver are very different
I’m not doing recoil for revolver
cobalt crest
Aren't there pre existing YouTube vids of people just firing every weapon
tall torrent
Only for weapons you’ll actually fire multiple shots to kill 1 enemy with
cobalt crest
I feel like you could cut your work in half by just linking a vid like that with time stamps
tall torrent
Aren't there pre existing YouTube vids of people just firing every weapon
Gifs look cooler in the guide
cobalt crest
That's true
broken spade
suppression gifs when?
tall torrent
That’s actually a good idea
inland orchid
worked pretty well with the side by side comparison with the stagger talent ogryn has, granted those were videos
still should function the same way
serene bough
I think if they made the special let you swap power levels from lower damage mo...
Im guessing they'll make it similar to the scab sniper's shot
Big lasblast that pierces though multiple things to kill its target
cobalt crest
I got generic Chinese food
cobalt crest
Im guessing they'll make it similar to the scab sniper's shot
My issue with that is it'll be too slow
serene bough
Its turkey day, no Chinese food for me
serene bough
I only recently learned Canada had a turkey day
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tada
tall torrent
Recoil showcase
cobalt crest
And I also the murdering and the raping of the natives which is very unfortunate
grand perch
recoil haxx
serene bough
Such an indepth guide
cobalt crest
Glad I'm not white
tall torrent
mk7
grand perch
i just noticed the lamp seems to recoil differently than the gun itself
tall torrent
what lamp
grand perch
the torch on the right hand side
cobalt crest
Speaking of long las I'm reminded of back in payday2 when Thanatos and heavy crossbows were meta for one down
serene bough
Still would prefer a melta first over a longlas
umbral parrot
Lots of fire?
umbral parrot
Boo
grand perch
he gets the longlas too, as a sort of spear
weapons: implemented. massive monkey paw wish granted
pseudo fiber
melta is zealot
melta would be both
cobalt crest
Still would prefer a melta first over a longlas
Does melta work lorewise the way it works in sm2?
clever hedge
Both is good
cobalt crest
Where it's like a shotgun?
cobalt crest
Oh
pseudo fiber
Melta is a beam
cobalt crest
Oh that's better
pseudo fiber
It's just a shotgun in space marine because they wanted a shotgun
and then GW never said no
so now we have two canonical ways the same weapon functions
radiant chasm
<@301217938306760704> u see this shit?
clever hedge
Could also see melta pistols
cobalt crest
and then GW never said no
Which is kinda weird no considering how GW control freaks over everything else
pseudo fiber
Space marine 1 invented a weapon
inland orchid
the 1st space marine built something?
grand perch
i dont have a video or anything but fire warrior did melta pretty well i seem to remember
inland orchid
grand perch
and if you know fire warrior, youre old
cobalt crest
I wanna try it
clever hedge
Nice
grand perch
Mk IX left
ah, the one that should be taken behind a shed and shot out of mercy
pseudo fiber
Space marine 1 invented a weapon
The Vengeance launcher
clever hedge
Could start to see some of the more obscure weapons. Combat shotties, purgatas crossbow, plasma carbine needle rifle
If they are not working on the 5th class of a tech acolyte and go the skittari weapons
remote sonnet
Plasma gun in darktide is more accurate to the lore than plasma in Space Marines, which is essentially an anti armour grenade launcher.
queen fox
The Vengeance launcher
It was in boltgun also
candid agate
Plasma gun in darktide is more accurate to the lore than plasma in Space Marines...
yeah space marines plasma guns feel weird, but its probably for balance sake in PvP
cobalt crest
Have they buffed boltors yet
pseudo fiber
yes
frosty heron
I'm running the Bolt pistol, I like it but the weapon sway is annoying. I see "run n gun" reduces Spread by 30%; does that mean visual weapon sway is reduced?
tall torrent
I'm running the Bolt pistol, I like it but the weapon sway is annoying. I see "r...
No, spread is hipfire/brace spread
orchid hemlock
I'm running the Bolt pistol, I like it but the weapon sway is annoying. I see "r...
The crosshair for the weapon is tightened
frosty heron
I see thanks
fringe lake
is pressing rmb with plasma just worse than spamming lmb?
fringe lake
and what exactly is the perfect plasma roll stat wise?
since I can't have a dump stat
somber adder
69 thermal 71 charge
sick marsh
this a w
somber adder
Let's hope empowering doesn't fuck with the rounding
sick marsh
fingers crossed
somber adder
Literally unusable
little vortex
lads
is this anything
frank ledge
uncut pebble
lads
is this anything
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d998bb2-0190-4...
No, they did not cook, get them out of the kitchen.
little vortex
i just want a sniper that feels like a sniper 
uncut pebble
Unfortunately, the helbore is very, very hard to use.
little vortex
it is, but it's also very flavorful
uncut pebble
You may be better off with an exe stance mk9 vigilant build.
little vortex
yeah, that's the way i originally built a sniper vet, but markman's focus is fucking trash and i hate it
uncut pebble
You can legit bot walk through mostly ranged maelstroms and not care about anything.
I dont even run mf on mine.
tall torrent
lads
is this anything
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d998bb2-0190-4...
not good
little vortex
also vigilant is a marksman weapon and not a sniper weapon
tame lichen
I forgot how toxic i get when playing vet
Unless im with a team of zealots everything is too slow and too little damage
sick marsh
it'll do nicely
broken spade
lads
is this anything
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d998bb2-0190-4...
wow another build that dedicated a bunch of curios to deadshot, while ditching reciprocity that's only 1 point away
why do people do this?
dump 3 curios for 25% crit on deadshot
skip out the free 25% crit from reciprocity
little vortex
mostly because i'm not dodging a bunch when i'm aiming down the sights, but fair point ig
iron marten
here's my one, though it's with a knife
broken spade
conveniently cropped out your disgusting smoke nades
crimson wyvern
conveniently cropped out your disgusting smoke nades
Dont shittalk the smoke nades, I learnt my lesson, dont go down the path. Im on a watchlist now
The people that love smoke grenades, really love smoke grenades
little vortex
here's my one, though it's with a knife
i struggled hard with the aura and nades tbh
but frags are 🐐 , and survivalist + demolition stockpile are mandatory to me in a build that i'm not hugely confident is adding value just by existing
then at least i'm not subtracting it either
iron marten
yeah, frags can just clean a room with two of them
little vortex
i do enjoy smoke grenades but i enjoy them in theory more than practice
they need so much help to be where they should
however
stealth vet + smokes + the midway event in comms-plex
ultimate memes
your team can fix the hacky skull with two thumbs up their ass, they'll never see an elite shooter if you do it right
little vortex
if the numbers are correct (and this is fatshark, so they may not be) the mk3a is better DPS
iron marten
probably, but I prefer the mk4's raw damage per shot
it's also pretty funny to see a boss health bar go down from a laser
little vortex
i'm gonna try it later but i don't think i'm gonna notice the difference on damnation tbh
iron marten
you're gonna see the difference because the bayonet on the mk4 sucks
iron marten
haha
frosty heron
The people that love smoke grenades, really love smoke grenades
ok can someone explain this to me? I have hundreds of hours in Vet and decided to try out smoke grenades and my opinion is they are borderline useless.
I'd throw them down when trying to revive someone or when trying to get a heal off and they didn't last nearly long enough to help. They also don't last long enough to do a good job of blocking incoming fire from ranged enemies.
so what is their use case exactly?
crimson wyvern
you can protect your team on the last event in carnival where you get pinned down by 50 gunners that every vet on your team decided to take a plasma gun for and therefore cannot snipe them
From my limited understanding
iron marten
it's really only useful against gunners and specialists AI
frosty heron
I see. I just wish they lasted longer. There are definitely times I could have blocked off fields of incoming fire but it dissipates so quickly
iron marten
fair
the other use case is against monstrosities, specifically, the beast of nurgle
cause instead of vomiting at you from like 15m away, they'll go up to your face instead and try it at that distance
same goes for trappers, flamers
crimson wyvern
I have no qualms truthfully, although the smoke should not be deterimental to your allies vision
it should be see-throughable without spamming tag
broken spade
it interacts so badly with lighting in some places
iron marten
I'm guilty of bringing smoke to sniper gauntlets
broken spade
to the point where you just can't see through them at all
crimson wyvern
Wow, I got no "They're smoke grenades Symbol SMOKE. GRENADES" based chat today
iron marten
yeah, smoke shouldn't detriment your vision in a game like this
broken spade
self inflicted ventilation purge condition
queen fox
yeah, smoke shouldn't detriment your vision in a game like this
But it's a smoke grenade
iron marten
well, 75% of my builds use smoke so lol
queen fox
That's what smoke grenades do
iron marten
I would agree, if I can't spot through smoke
crimson wyvern
But it's a smoke grenade
Its a game, and you want stuff to feel like we'd imagine it to feel. Rather than trying to imitate realism in a game about shooting zombies
queen fox
Personally, I think they missed a brilliant opportunity to make the smoke grenades be blessed holy anti-nurgle incense burners
Tho that's more of a zealot thing
queen fox
This holy incense returns righteousness to the heart of the heretic, exposing their lies and deepest doubts to their conscious mind, forcing the heretic to weep uncontrolably with grief at their transgressions.
||it's tear gas||
Makes them take bonus dmg and bonus stagger while in smoke
iron marten
I still find it hilarious that smokes can wake up a dh
guess they don't like being hotboxed
queen fox
Wait rly? Lmao
iron marten
yeah
frosty heron
loool
thick bear
Makes them take bonus dmg and bonus stagger while in smoke
Then people would treat them the same as zealot fire grenades and push enemies out of it, thus making it entirely useless
broken spade
you'd wake up too if i put a smoke grenade on your nose
iron marten
fair
so Json, considering your avatar, is there going to be Silksong news at the game awards
iron marten
why don't you just visit the game studio and tell them to chop chop
iron marten
true, but the thing is, I don't care about silksong
broken spade
silksong will come out when bloodborne 2 gets released on pc
iron marten
will it be as bad as dark souls 2, then they will fix it like with dark souls 3
broken spade
dark souls 2 is a good game!
iron marten
can't believe you told me to buy malware; I trusted you!
broken spade
queen fox
iron marten
fuwamoco would not approve of this!
neat stratus
Unheavied Laspistol
crimson wyvern
Then people would treat them the same as zealot fire grenades and push enemies o...
Zealot grenades are great player expierence testers tho
the ones that dodge and block inside your immolation grenades are instantly the ones you know who are inexpierenced
little vortex
every day smokes don't put out ground fire like they do in mordhau is a day that smokes don't fuck as hard as they could
it's the one thing there's actually no counter for
zealot chorus doesn't count because it counters everything
queen fox
Unheavied Laspistol
Un-las's your laspistol
little vortex
ok can someone explain this to me? I have hundreds of hours in Vet and decided t...
you are correct, they are borderline useless. which sucks, they shouldn't be.
they don't block shots, they block shooters from having line of sight, but they can and will still shoot at the last place they saw you, so as far as i can tell the best way to use them is to throw them a short distance away and then move into the cloud
and the best time to use them is when the team needs more cover than they have and you have something to do that isn't shooting mfs
frosty heron
every day smokes don't put out ground fire ~~like they do in mordhau~~ is a day ...
oooh that would actually be a great upgrade
there are definitely times our team has gotten screwed over by multiple bombers and forced between a rock and a hard place so to speak
queen fox
I like smoke putting out fires that's a good idea
Smoke should be the utility grenade actually, no dmg but lots of secondary effects
Maybe make smoke remove green buff on enemies too idk
little vortex
zealot chorus should do that if anything should but i don't mind it tbh
queen fox
zealot chorus should do that if anything should but i don't mind it tbh
Chorus is an ability, smoke is a grenade
Smoke can be thrown 50m away, chorus cant
little vortex
hence the "if anything should"
it's purely based on the fluff that zealot is channeling the emprah and the gas is blessed by nurgle
queen fox
Idk chorus is already busted enough
I think smoke should be emprah blessed tear gas that debuffs enemies and puts out fires
little vortex
the emprah blessing being the explanation for why it doesn't also cripple the team?
i'd say that's a stretch, but zealot fire is already like that, so why not
queen fox
the emprah blessing being the explanation for why it doesn't also cripple the te...
Yes basically
tame lodge
ok can someone explain this to me? I have hundreds of hours in Vet and decided t...
Stay inside the smoke
You can see the buff icon right?
regal smelt
anyone know exactly why vet stealth will sometimes make muties drop teammates? feels very inconsistent
spring rose
best tactical axe for voc vet?
worldly plover
ds2 is mid
neat stratus
Dark Souls 2 SOTF is unironically one of the top 3 souls titles
Its definitely one of the Fromsoftware games ever
tame lodge
best tactical axe for voc vet?
2 or 7
queen fox
Its definitely one of the Fromsoftware games ever
Armored core for answer was the fromsoft game of all time
tiny summit
DS2 best From game for having a dedicated ladder man
little vortex
anyone know exactly why vet stealth will *sometimes* make muties drop teammates?...
coming out of stealth staggers everything near you
or , well, suppresses
that might be sloppy coding wrt the occasional mutie
tall torrent
anyone know exactly why vet stealth will *sometimes* make muties drop teammates?...
Mild stagger on breaking stealth
The stagger used to be so low it did basically nothing
Now it actually staggers things
little vortex
oh sweet
regal smelt
The stagger used to be so low it did basically nothing
ok that makes sense then
little vortex
i thought it was just insta-suppress on enemies vulnerable to it
which i didn't think muties were
regal smelt
yeah its weird how it only mentions suppression but only certain ranged enemies and groaners can be suppressed while im staggering maulers with it
little vortex
fatshark follows the 239th rule of acquisition
never be afraid to mislabel a product
regal smelt
but that mild stagger is so barely noticable im suprised it affects muties
little vortex
probs coded to ignore resistance, which muties have a lot of
tall torrent
but that mild stagger is so barely noticable im suprised it affects muties
It got buffed
It can even break rager combo
lilac meteor
Does this mean you gotta do a crit hit AND a weakspot kill?
tall torrent
what weapon to use with veteran for armour ?
Duelling sword
Knife
Power sword
Combat axe
Chainaxe
Shovel
tall torrent
Does this mean you gotta do a crit hit AND a weakspot kill?
Yes
tall torrent
Just weakspot kills...?
No, critical-weakspot kills
tame lodge
Body
Weakspot
Critical
Critical Weakspot
lilac meteor
thanku Veteran steam guide WIP
Goodness Vet has so many fucking weapons coming from maining ogryn
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56
tame lodge
Real
lilac meteor
Revolver, knife
And then what
tall torrent
And then what
Critical weakspot kill?
lilac meteor
Yea but like any blessings and talents?
Or just, equip the weapons and bob's your uncle
tall torrent
Yea but like any blessings and talents?
Point blank on revolver
Riposte on knife / duelling sword
Go shoot/stab specialists & elites while playing weapon specialist the normal way
It’s not complicated
lilac meteor
visual badge
I just did the penance by leveling weapons up to 20
and forget about it
just pick up some crit blessings and talents, weapon specialist also gives you crit chance
somber axle
Yea but like any blessings and talents?
Weapon Specialist has a thing where each melee kill gives you a stack and each stack gives 33% crit chance for your next ranged attack on swap so you can just loop slapping things to death, swap to revolver, shoot something in the head to instantly kill it for progress, then return to melee slapping and repeat
if you're using Revolver make sure to grab Always Prepared under it so you always have at minimum 1 shot loaded each time you swap
3+ melee kills -> shoot something in the head
cobalt crest
Weapon specialist I think is my favourite of vets keystones
Focus targets also good but I've never tried the one for executioners stance
somber axle
I think Revolver goes Hand Cannon + Surgical or Crucian? But tbh if you're using Weapon Specialist either of those are probably unnecessary except for ensuring your second and third shots during the Weapon Specialist buff are also crits
so maybe you can sneak in extra crit weakspot hits after your first guaranteed crit if you combo Deadshot + Surgical stacks
Revolver is one of the few weapons that Deadshot is fine on imo
you'll barely notice the stamina drain
Deadshot + Reciprocity at max stacks is an easy 50% crit chance
5% base crit chance from Vet
5% crit talent if you grab it
aim down sights for like literally 1 second (Surgical gives +10% crit chance per 0.3 seconds aiming) you have a 90%-100% crit chance on your shot
cobalt crest
I think Revolver goes Hand Cannon + Surgical or Crucian? But tbh if you're using...
Crucian I feel like never beats surgical even at its worst
Maybe for agripina
somber axle
Crucian is generally much less value vs Surgical unless you're firing as fast as you can
cobalt crest
Which one was point blank
somber axle
20% crit on melee kill
tall torrent
Melee kill gives 20% crit chance for 2.5s
somber axle
used to be bugged? but if it's fixed it's neat
it's still less crit chance vs waiting 1 second while aiming on Surgical
but it means you can hip fire the revolver into someone's face without thinking about aiming
cobalt crest
Melee kill gives 20% crit chance for 2.5s
If you're using weapon specialist that makes sense
Ngl I'm lazy so I prob will just never swap off surgical
somber axle
the timing of the buff window seems pretty short
2.5 seconds isn't very long tbh
and you're already getting guaranteed 100% crit chance on your first shot anyway from killing 2-3 things in melee before swapping
you might be able to squeeze out an extra shot with the 20% crit chance before it falls off?
but it's doing nothing for the first shot
tall torrent
If you're using weapon specialist that makes sense
You’re gonna use WS with revolver anyway
tall torrent
the timing of the buff window seems pretty short
It’s enough for 4 shots
somber axle
so how does the timing work there
somber axle
because it feels like the same tricky business behind Surprise Attack and For the Emperor
duration so short
tall torrent
Revolver doesn’t need crit for most breakpoints
Headshot will 1 tap regardless
The only crit breakpoints that matters are rager 1 crit bodyshot
somber axle
yeah but this was for someone who is asking for tips on penance progress that needs crit weakspot kills
tall torrent
Which point blank is better for
somber axle
it doesn't need the crit to kill, it needs the crit for penance
cobalt crest
2.5s isn't that bad tbh
somber axle
yeah that's what I said
you said it doesn't need crit for most 1 tap weakspot kills
that's not important for penance progress since that only tracks crit weakspot kills
somber axle
if it's not a crit weakspot kill it doesn't count
tall torrent
He can only proc it from being in melee in the first place
somber axle
the buff duration lasts a bit longer past the initial guanrateed crit so like
you can feasibly squeeze in a few extra kills if you can guarantee follow up crits yeah?
and make the penance a little less painful to grind
they asked for blessings so
tall torrent
I think point blank is just the best crit blessing for revolver tbh
tall torrent
they asked for blessings so
And I said point blank
somber axle
started talking about Crucian vs Surgical as the 2nd since Hand Cannon still seems to be the important one
tall torrent
Hand cannon is a weird one
placid portal
And I said point blank
Point blank?
tall torrent
Because it only matters for 2 breakpoints
somber axle
+20% crit chance on melee kill
little vortex
Focus targets also good but I've never tried the one for executioners stance
marksman's focus is hot garbage
the only weapons it benefits are ones that make no sense flavor-wise
tall torrent
Hand cannon gives much easier access to scab rager crit 1 bodyshot
Otherwise u have to take superiority complex
cobalt crest
marksman's focus is hot garbage
the only weapons it benefits are ones that make...
It's the one where you have to stand still right? Not a fan
tall torrent
Wack pathing
placid portal
+20% crit chance on melee kill
On weapon melee or gun melee, the wording is weird
somber axle
It's the one where you have to stand still right? Not a fan
you don't have to stand still tbh
tall torrent
On weapon melee or gun melee, the wording is weird
Any melee kill
somber axle
it's a lot more generous now on movement than it used to be
little vortex
It's the one where you have to stand still right? Not a fan
you can move if you consistently hit headshots
and by consistently i mean "be spraying into a horde at head height with a dakka tube"
placid portal
Any melee kill
That is based
somber axle
if you manage to get weakspot hits/kills you get "immunity" on stack loss for a few seconds
letting you move around as normal
little vortex
the only vaguely "marksman" ish gun that MF works with is the vigilant autogun
and that's okay fun
somber axle
it gets really funny using it with the Recon Mk VIc because you just vomit lasers head height and sit on 10 stacks constantly LOL
placid portal
if you manage to get weakspot hits/kills you get "immunity" on stack loss for a ...
Marksmen stacks working against marksmen weapons
little vortex
Marksmen stacks working against marksmen weapons<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163...
my whole entire problem with it
placid portal
Only rewards spam smh
somber axle
I think the trap a lot of people fall into with MF is that you think you can sit still and snipe but this isn't that kind of game
you have to be pretty mobile and most fights happen in melee or just beyond melee
cobalt crest
Is it good with spam or would no keystone/focus just be better
austere mica
the only vaguely "marksman" ish gun that MF works with is the vigilant autogun
...
BP propaganda posting
austere mica
Just posting it because rending MF is required for this stupid ass breakpoint
somber axle
there's a really weird obscure breakpoint you can hit with Boltpistol and Deadly Accurate if you go Marksman's Focus, Rending Strikes and CitA
tall torrent
Marksman focus is ok for 3 guns
somber axle
you can 1 tap Crushers during Exe Stance
it's goofy
and you need 10+ stacks for CitA
little vortex
i don't heavily fuck with breakpoints on builds that run BP because a) puncture gets them in the end usually and b) i'm using it more for disruption than anything else
austere mica
it's goofy
I literally just posted it
austere mica
It works without killzone, I just didn't want to waste the MF stacks I had from sitting in the crate
somber axle
didn't they buff Boltgun's damage?
I wonder if Boltgun can do it too
no Deadly Accurate though...
cobalt crest
Also wait sleepy cats pfp reminded me about this
I won't say any spoilers but goddamn that arcane finale was crazy
slow horizon
somber axle
I won't say any spoilers but goddamn that arcane finale was crazy
Killing is a unicycle and Jayce is a clown
little vortex
boltgun is completely made obsolete by bolt pistol and desperately needs an upgrade
austere mica
Not really
somber axle
also yeah second season of Arcane was amazing
austere mica
BP can't pull off a 4 shot body shot against crushers with no ranged boosts
somber axle
the scene with the song Remember Me made me cry
austere mica
and it doesn't have nearly the same boss burst DPS potential
little vortex
crushers are exactly the type of mfs you save the ranged boosts for. who else are you aiming at
austere mica
crushers are exactly the type of mfs you save the ranged boosts for. who else ar...
Zealot
little vortex
lmao
austere mica
Zealot can get a 4 shot body shot against them
little vortex
fair
somber axle
Boltgun Vets are usually running Exe Stance anyway so like they can still do the much easier 2 tap on Crushers without the funny rending/MF shenanigans
and just go full auto into a pack
little vortex
i just don't notice anything doing heavy boss DPS on damnation tbh. mfs are tanky
austere mica
Achlys BLO is insane
little vortex
psykers get fucking bolters now?